1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Ron Anians, you've got to watch where you're buying fuel. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: You know that that Nicolie might be saving a gallon 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: on something somewhere cheap. How well are they taking care 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: of their tanks? What's the likelihood of their fuel quality 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: being okay? The car Doctor, how many miles on the car? 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: We think like one hundred and for wall. 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: I'd probably I probably do in taking menifold doll rings. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Billy, Yeah, I'm thinking I didn't want to grow part 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: to the problem. 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: No, I get it. 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of Roninanium, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: the phone and call in the garage doors. 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: at eight and now he running and there it is. 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I don't think how it could be much 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: of a love machine in the condition i'm end today, 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: But what the heck, I'm willing to give it a try. 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the phones and let's go to 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Bill and Main nineteen Chevy Equinox. Bill, 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car. Doctor, sir. You're on at eight 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. How 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: can I help? 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: Hi? 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Roman? I bought this Cardo in twenty nineteen. 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: Love it. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: It's two leaders, makes like two hundred and fifty two 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: horse power. It's crazy right, it's got the nine speed 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: transmission and Chevrolete discontinued carrying offering this motor in Equinoxes 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: a year or two later, and the motor and the transmission, 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: So that's a little worriesome. It's been fine for I mean, 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: it's got seventy five thousand miles on it, around sixty 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: thousand miles, and I started smelling combustion smells in the 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: passenger compartment. 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Exhaust and exhausts, any oil exhaustil? 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: Bill? 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Would you describe it as exhaust and exhaust smell in 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the passenger compartment? 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's tough. It's to me. It smells like 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, when you're behind a car that's burning oil. 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: It's got that smell. 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, has anybody has anybody looked at it? You know? 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Are we leaking oil somewhere in an obscure spot that 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: nobody can nobody will see. 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: I had Main has a safety inspection still and last 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: inspection a year ago. They pointed it out to me. 49 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: I think Main has if they if it drops while 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,279 Speaker 3: they're watching it. If there's a drop, then they sail it. 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: But there was just wetness there. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't it was. I wouldn't count on that. What 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: do you mean there's a wet there's a wetness where? 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's on the bottom side of the 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: engine passenger compartment, and you know, it looks like it's leaking. 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: I took it in because it still had see one 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: thousand miles left on the warrant, and I took it 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: in twice so they couldn't find anything. Well, wait a minute, 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: I've not put a drop. It never uses any aisle. 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Okay, time wait minute, is there is it? Is it 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: wet on the outside of the engine or not. 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: It's wet on the bottom side of the engine. 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Yea, so it's got so it's it's it's got a leak. 64 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Is it in line? Is it in line? Is it 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: in line with listen? You know, let's cut to the chase. 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: It's either it's either leaking something and hitting the exhaust 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: as you're driving along, right, it's being it's being blown out, 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's being pushed around underneath the car, on 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: top of the car. It's hitting an exhaust pipe or 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: an exhaust manifold something hot to create that smell, right, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: or or it's an exhaust it's an exhaust leak. Is 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: it's a turbo charged vehicle, it is okay, you know, 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and turbochargers just add that much more to it in 74 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: terms of potential for oil leaks. So, you know, I 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: wouldn't count on my state inspection as being a valid 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: diagnosis for whether or not it's got an oil leak 77 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: that's creating a smell, you know, if it's like if 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: it's like New Jersey, that's just useless. You know, I wouldn't. 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on New Jersey's inspection program to keep 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: me safe, you know. In the words of our glorious governor, 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: who I think is completely wrong about you know, they 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: don't do safety inspection in New Jersey because they think 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: people will maintain their car on their own. I don't 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: know what he's smoking, but that ain't it, you know, 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: So I would take it to a mechanic. Hey, I'm 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: looking for, you know, I'm looking for either something that's leaking. 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: I've got this fluid underneath the bottom of the engine. 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking for something leaking that's possibly hitting exhaust creating 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: a smell. Or I'm looking for an exhaust leak. And 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be afraid to take a 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: mechanic stethoscope and listen to the exhaust from front to back, 92 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: all parts of it while the engine is running up 93 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: in the air. And if I get a small little 94 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: tic tic tic tic tick somewhere, that's a leak. I've 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: got to deal with it, all right. But I you know, 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: if we're looking for a smell. The other thing, if 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: your repair shop has can can you create the condition 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: at idle? 99 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: No? No, it's really intermittent, and sometimes I don't smell 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: it at all. At times it's yeah, I can smell 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: it at traffic lights right when the cars stopped. 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: And I mean, all the all the more reason to 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: all the more reason to be concerned about whatever's wet 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: on the bottom of the engine. You know, yeah, you 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: know where where where does it go? And what is it? 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't gauge is my car broken based 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: on I'm not adding any oil or cool into it. 108 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, what if it's a small enough What if 109 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: it's a small enough leak that it only loses a 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: half court in between oil changes, right, and then you 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: take it in. Then you take it in for the 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: oil change, and the oil gets topped up and it's 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: still leaking whatever it is if it is oil, right, 114 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: you know. So you know, engines are supposed to be dry, 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: Transmissions are supposed to be dry, exhausted and supposed to leak. 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Those are the three areas you got to focus on. 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: But there's no I've seen some things with the turbo 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: on those that have created some issues. But you've got 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: to get to the root cause of what's going on here. 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to somebody's got to actually diagnose this. And 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on state inspection being my barometer of 122 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: good or bad. Makes sense. 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, I took it to the dealership twice. So after 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: after that state inspection, right, they claim they couldn't find. 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: It, Well, why is it wet? 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: Well it wasn't. 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: Now I can dry it off with striting fluid or something, 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: wipe it up and it stays dry for a while 129 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: and then eventually it gets again. 130 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this. Find the mechanic, all right, that 131 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: wants to work for a living, and have them add 132 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: an engine oil dye to the crank case. Yeah, all right, 133 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: and let's wait till it gets wet. Let's let's let's 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: do a leakye diagnosis. If the liquid whatever this is 135 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the engine shows traces of the dye, 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: then we know it's engine oil. At least then we 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: know what fluid we're attacking. I mean, pick a fluid, 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: engine oil, anti freeze, power steering whatever, right, transfluid, whatever, 139 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: Pick a fluid, add a die. I'd start with engine oil, 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: since that seems to be probably the most likely. And 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: if we've got an oil leak, where's the oil coming from? 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: It's somebody's somebody's not giving you the whole picture, or 143 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you're not you're not looking at it on a lift 144 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: doing doing a regular inspection. You're counting on too many 145 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: what is there's too many scenarios here. But you know, 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: engine oil dye never or lies. If it's green, if 147 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: it's that got that fluorescence to it, then you know 148 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: it's leaking out of the engine. It's just as simple 149 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: as that. Let's get it diagnosed and resolved, because obviously 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: that's not good for your health, right, you know, breathing 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: in exhaust or combustion smell or whatever it is. You're 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: you're you're breathing. Yeah, all right, so yeah, let's let's 153 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: let's diagnose it. Baby. I'm not trying. I'm not trying 154 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: to beat you up. I just don't want you You're 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: getting into some bad habits and I don't want to 156 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: see you do that. I want to see you get 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: the car fixed, all right, Okay, So all right, you're welcome, sir. 158 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: You'll be well. Bye bye. Uh. Yeah, I don't want 159 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: to count on I don't want to count on my 160 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: state inspection telling me my vehicle is good or bad. Uh. 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, in New Jersey, I have put stickers on 162 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: cars that probably should have been junked just because they pass, 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: uh the emission standard. You know, they've got a front 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: rear license plate, the odometer works, and they passed the 165 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: emission standard because the check engine light isn't on and 166 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: it's running. It's monitors. But you know, I've got no 167 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: control over tires, no control over breaks. I don't look 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: at front ends. I don't do safety inspection. We don't 169 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: check a lot of things in New Jersey. And to me, 170 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: that doesn't tell me I've got a good safe vehicle. 171 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: That just means it turned off the light. And you know, 172 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: state inspection is not a diagnosis. State inspection is really 173 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of useless in many states. So I'm just food 174 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: for thought. Eight five five five six zero eight five 175 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Run an 176 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: ening in the car doctor. I'll be back right after 177 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: this for the best in car advice. 178 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 6: Give Ron a call eight five five five six zero 179 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: Hey, let's go over and talk to George and tennessee 181 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Georgia with the car doctor. Eight five five five six 182 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. How can I help? 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: Hey? Ryn? 184 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: This is George, Sir. 185 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: I have a two thousand and eight Chevy Colorado pickup. Okay, 186 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 2: three or four times a year I get in to 187 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: start it, and no cranking at all, no light dim 188 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: on the uh dash right, and it doesn't start. Okay, 189 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: And after five, three or four tries, no luck. Then 190 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you turn the key and it starts. 191 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay. It when it doesn't start, it goes into that 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: no crank. Have you tried? Do you do? You know 193 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: if you have do you have a horn? Do you 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: have headlights? 195 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Yes? And I like, I say, my dash lights stay lit? 196 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Right, okay, so you know, and then it just sort 197 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: of starts working again and it's fine for a while. 198 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: After five six minutes it will start. 199 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: How many miles on it? George? 200 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, I had a mechanic 201 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: that lives close by and when it had the problem, 202 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: he came over, got in it. It started right. 203 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: So how many miles on this, georgey? 204 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: Eight thousand? 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Right? Not a lot. 206 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: This has been going on for three or four years. 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, obviously I'm going to tell you 208 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: to look at you know, consider connections at the battery 209 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: cables where it connects to the block and so forth. 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's easy. You said that you see some 211 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: dimming of certain dashboard lights. Did I hear that correctly? No? 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: No, no, DEMI. 213 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, no dimming. So you have everything. It just it 214 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: just doesn't crank, George. 215 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't crank, and you can't hear the you know, 216 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: the thing goes when the battery's dead and they give 217 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: you a little throat Toronto, but nothing there. 218 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Right, Which engine is this, George, the three seven five cylinder. 219 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. It's a four cylinder, y'all. 220 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I know, okay, all right, so it's a four cylinder, 221 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: so harsh environment, I mean, you know, I don't know 222 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: where you're late, you know, is it a. 223 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: I'm in the outside of Knoxville, Tennessee. 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: Okay, So one of the things. 225 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: It's garage cap, all right. 226 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: One of the things you can have a mechanic check 227 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: when I'm looking for intermittent no crank. On this generation Colorado, 228 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: there are, believe it or not, six engine grounds or 229 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: different grounds under hood. From it's it's if he looks 230 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: at a wiring diagram, I'm sorry, it's it's seven G 231 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: one hundred through G one O six one on one 232 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: one two one O three so on. It's like the 233 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: Magnificent seven. I always think of it as there are 234 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: there are six to seven different wiring grounds, depending up 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: on how it's optioned. Under the hood. Three of them 236 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: are right at the engine block, and if any of 237 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: those grounds are corroded, loose, missing, damaged, et cetera, it 238 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: will cause all sorts of intermittent problems on a very 239 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: minor scale, but every once in a while it just 240 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of crops up. So I would have my mechanic, 241 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: whoever that is, just go through and you know, I 242 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: don't care if he wants to test them now, but 243 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: I would physically look at the grounds, give each one, 244 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: give each one a little tweak on the bolt heet 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: or the nuthead, and just make sure that they're good, 246 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: clean and tight right right after this happens. Is there 247 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: any way you could get it scanned for faults, George, 248 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: If you could get it scanned, take it to your 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: mechanic and have them scan it for codes. I don't 250 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: mean going to an autopart store for an autoparts store scan. 251 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm also thinking about that tends 252 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: to cause intermittent problems on these is the body computer 253 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: on the right side of the truck, in the in 254 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the A pillar, I'm sorry, in the B pillar is 255 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the body module which controls crank signal. And that's also 256 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: a known area where the connectors get corroded and will 257 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: cause an intermittent no crank condition. So you know, you 258 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: may find if you were to have this scanned right 259 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: after the problem happened, we're restarted, you may find that 260 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, you you come up 261 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: with fault codes that lead to a bad BCM. And 262 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this could just be a bad starter. 263 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: This could be just a plain old you know, bad starter. 264 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Starter hits a dead spot and you know it just 265 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: it's just failed at that moment. You know, has anybody 266 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: looked at the starter itself? Also, are any of the 267 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: are the connect are the connectors clean? You know, it's 268 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: either going to be we're starting to change parts or 269 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: we're looking for corrosion or connectors, or we're going to 270 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: look at a wiring diagram see how this vehicle is wired, 271 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and start to set up some voltage test points for 272 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: when this happens. That we're either looking at bulbs or 273 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a meter connection. The problem is, as you say, it's intermittent. 274 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: It's just so random as it happens and as it occurs, 275 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: So you know where do you attest? But I can 276 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: tell you this ground one hundred through one oh six 277 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: are are common failures on these trucks. They're located in 278 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the engine compartment between the engine blocked the firewall and 279 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the fenders, and they are known failures to do all 280 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: sorts of erratic no crank, no start conditions. So I 281 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: would at least verify type. 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Of time delay in this for stealing cars. 283 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: No, sir, No, sir, you know? Well, well are you 284 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: asking me? Does the vehicle have an alarm system anti theft? 285 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't to my knowledge. 286 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Right, it doesn't to my knowledge either. I would check 287 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the owner's manual. Have you owned the truck since New George? 288 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: It had four thousand on that way, right, so you 289 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: bought it now you know. The other thing you can 290 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: try is when it happens, put your foot on the brake, 291 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: try shifting it into neutral automatic, right I assume I 292 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: assume this isn't automatic. 293 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was tried, turning the steer your wheel. 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: And also I was wondering about there's a contact if 295 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: it's not in uh or park, right, it. 296 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Has to be it has to be right, No, it 297 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: would not. Well, it has to be a neutral or park. 298 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: But if the park portion of the prindle switch is 299 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: worn out, you know, or if it's just not in 300 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: all the way, shifting it into neutral may all of 301 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: a sudden make the problem go away and then at 302 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: least you know where to start. You can try that 303 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: as well. So but those of the kind of things 304 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: with it, all right, Well, then you can take it 305 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: off the list. All right, But like I said, I 306 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: would take it to your mechanic. Explain this conversation. Tell 307 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: them you want them to check the grounds under the 308 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: hood in the engine compartment grounds one hundred through one 309 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: oh six. 310 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: All right, okay, I could do that, all right. 311 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: George, you'd be well, all right, you're very welcome, sir. Yeah, yep, 312 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: bye bye, Yeah, No, kidd in. Grounds are tough, I mean, 313 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: intermittents are tough, and we can't focus on what's bad. 314 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: We got to focus on what's good. Let's do a 315 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: loaded voltage drop test. Let's look at the grounds and 316 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: make sure the connectors are good, clean and tight. Let's 317 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: make sure they're all there. Let's make sure that you 318 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: know we're not hanging on by one wire. Let's look 319 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: at the body module. The body modules on these cars 320 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: have authority for cranking. Could the connectors be corroded? Could 321 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: it be a defective body module? Sure, there's a lot 322 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: of would it could have, should and what if? But 323 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: we've got to start to eliminate things if we've got 324 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: any helpe affixing it. So yeah, let's let's look at 325 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: what good and I'll tell you what's bad. Like I 326 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: always say eight five five five six zero eight five 327 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I almost 328 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: forgot a five five five six zero nine nine zero 329 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: zero ron any of the car doctor. We'll be back 330 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: right after this, you know, going back to Georgia, Tennessee, 331 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: with his no start condition on his Ohivy Colorado looking 332 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: at a computer for codes, even though the vehicle may 333 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: be starting at that point, is still very very important. 334 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: You know. It reminded me. That call reminded me of 335 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: something I recently read in the Old Data News. I enjoy. 336 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: All Data has a resource section. If you go to 337 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: al data dot com click on resources, you get to 338 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: Old Data News, the current edition, and they've got tech bulletins. 339 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: They've got tech articles there rather and I was reading 340 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: one this month. Morano no start ignition stays on multiple 341 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: trouble codes, and it's sort of what George is describing. 342 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: This is a case of a twenty eleven Nissan Morano 343 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: V six three point five liter that one have more 344 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: miles on It's one hundred and sixty five thousand miles 345 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: on this particular Nissan, and the vehicle would go into 346 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: this no crank, no start condition. Now we all go to, oh, 347 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: it's a bad starter, right we Yeah, I get that. 348 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Like I said to George, you have to consider the 349 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: starter could be at fault. But you've got to realize 350 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: trouble codes do more than just point out engine running problems. 351 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: In the case of this Morano, according to All Data, 352 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: it had seven different fault codes lost communication with trans 353 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: control module vehicles, each signal lost, vehicle speed, shift, position, shift, 354 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: position status, ignition relay, and so on. So it had 355 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: all these faults and it reported to where do all 356 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: those inputs go? To the body module? As is on 357 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: most vehicles, the body module doesn't see those inputs. It 358 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: doesn't see those requests. Then it won't allow the starter 359 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: to engage because that usually has authority over the situation, 360 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: and it will actually in some cases report back to 361 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle Engine controller the PCM and allow the engine 362 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: to start to crank. So during the diagnosis on this 363 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: Nissan Morano, the article from All Data points out that 364 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: they went through and did what I had said. They 365 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: looked for powers, and they looked for grounds and they 366 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: found that at the tip of the totally integrated power 367 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: module there was no power coming in on a couple 368 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: of the fuses, and there was corrosion at the fusible links. 369 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: A fusible link is a wire, it has fused capability. Okay, 370 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: there was no power at the fusible links, which are 371 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: near the positive battery of the terminal. They went through wiring, 372 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: they found out this was a problem. They replaced the links, 373 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, where there wasn't power, 374 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: there is the BCM. Everything started to communicate with everything else. 375 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Everybody started to get along, and now the truck starts. 376 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: And my point is, as the article on all data 377 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: points out that you know it's it's it's not what 378 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: you think, right. We all think bad starters, bad and 379 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: neutral safeties, which and it could be. This is why 380 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned it all the I mentioned it to Georgia, 381 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned it all the time. But scanning for codes, 382 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: and I don't mean an autopart store scan. I mean 383 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: you make model looking at actual information, looking for something 384 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: you know that's going to tell me more in depth, 385 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: in detail. Diagnostics doesn't have to necessarily just be a 386 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: mission fault codes. But this is a good article. They 387 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: put it. They put replace the coroda fusible links, and 388 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: the vehicle starts and runs and does everything it's supposed 389 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: to do, and you know, all is good. So that's 390 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: why I encourage George, and I encourage you. If you've 391 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: got this particular problem of intermittent at random, start to 392 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: look at things like that, Start to look at ground, 393 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: start to look at connections, you know, start to think, 394 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: how does the circuit work? And you know, listen, you know, 395 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: the truth is you might get lucky replacing something. You 396 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: might put a starter in a car that doesn't crank, 397 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: doesn't start, and maybe it is the starter, but it 398 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: sure is a pain in the neck trying to figure 399 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: that out. Right, you don't know, you have no confidence 400 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: of repair, and you you have to wonder. So it's 401 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: just it's just kind of important to you know, to 402 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and start to look at this and you know, 403 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: diagnose it. Start to tell me what's good. I'll tell 404 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you what's bad. Let's get back to the phones. Let's 405 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: go over to Terry and Wisconsin seventeen Subaru outback Terry 406 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: around with the car doctor. How can I help. 407 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: Hi, thanks taking my call. 408 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: You're welcome, sir. What's going on? 409 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: There are twenty seventeen out back? And when you push 410 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 6: on the gas pedal, it acts like it's not getting 411 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 6: gas and jerks. Okay, And as long as you're drop 412 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 6: above speeds, it's fine. It's just when you you know, 413 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 6: and once a while to do it when you know 414 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 6: we're up there too. But somebody told me was injectors, 415 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 6: so I put jack a cleaner in. It worked for 416 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 6: a while and then it starts doing it again. 417 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: Any real diagnosis done to this car, We look at 418 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: it for codes, we look at fuel trim. Can we 419 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: duplicate it, you know, on a consistent basis? 420 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 6: It's consistent. Okay, that's abas. I don't have to put 421 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 6: the cleaner in here. It stops for a. 422 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: While, okay. How many miles are. 423 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: On this and there's there's no there's no check engine 424 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: lights coming out, there's nothing. 425 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: All right? How many how many miles around this Turra 426 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: tw in six thousand? Last time you put sport plugs 427 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: in it? 428 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 6: I've never put part plugging it. 429 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've gone four times past the limit of 430 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: where Subaru says the plugs should be replaced, and you're 431 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: wondering why it bucks. I'm not being a wise guy. 432 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, why aren't we looking at this? Why 433 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: are we looking at everything else? But right? 434 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 435 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 6: That's a good question. 436 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're waiting for the check engine 437 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: light to come on to tell you what's wrong. Yeah, 438 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: nothing beats normal maintenance. We did a set of plugs 439 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: this week and an eighteen outback, all right, and we 440 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: did him at one hundred and two thousand miles. They 441 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: were melted, they were gone, like you like, I'm surprised 442 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the car ran, which is a testimony to how good 443 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: these cars will work and how good the systems are. 444 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: You've got double that mileage. First of all, I wonder 445 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: if the plugs are actually going to come out. 446 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: Of the head, right boy. 447 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: And then and then you've got to realize, depending upon 448 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: the gap of the plug, if the gap is supposed 449 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to be forty thousands and now it's worn two eighty 450 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: thousands or more, you've I now asked that two hundred 451 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: thousand mile ignition coil to you know, do double the work, 452 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: and you've strained and stressed it out. Ever so much more. 453 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: I think where I would go with this is I 454 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: would look, I would do a code scan, even though 455 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: the light's not on, I'm going to look what do 456 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I have pending? Do I have any pending faults? Where's 457 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: fuel trim? Can I duplicate this? Can I see missfire PIDs? 458 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: I don't think I can in a seventeen, But can 459 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: I see misfire pits? Or can I go? Look at 460 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: mode six data? And this is what a real mechanical 461 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: do Mode six data is? And I'll use the analogy 462 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: of me. I was fine on Wednesday. I woke up 463 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: Thursday with a scratchy throat. Friday my nose started to run, 464 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: and here I am sick on the weekend. So you know, 465 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: my Mod six data would show I was starting to 466 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: fail tests around Thursday, and all of a sudden Saturday, 467 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: my check engine light came on and here I am. 468 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: So Mode six data shows you the behind the scenes 469 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: calculations the computer is doing to look and decide is 470 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: that vehicle running correctly and operating as it should? So 471 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, and I would be very careful what plugs 472 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: I pick. I believe this is gonna have NNGK high 473 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: ignitability plugs in it. I would make sure I put 474 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: those back in. That will make a difference on a 475 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: subru Yeah, fuel system cleaning is not a bad idea. 476 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: But a formal fuel system cleaning, right, you know something 477 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: where we're going to hook up a fuel system cleaning 478 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: kit like a BG Fuel System Service and do a 479 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: real carbon cleaning two hundred thousand miles, No spark plug 480 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: replacement UFA. You know it's it's you'll start changing everything 481 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: under the sun before you get to the root cause 482 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: until somebody diagnoses us. All right, right, so let's let's 483 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: start there. You're very welcome, sir. Would I would go there. 484 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: You're welcome you too. If you need more, you know 485 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: where I am. Yeah, I geez, why aren't we doing 486 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: spark plugs to that? Two hundred two, two hundred thousand 487 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: miles anyway? A five five five six zero nin nine 488 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'll be back right after this. 489 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 7: Don't go away. 490 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: And here we go. We're coming up on the finishing line. 491 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: I can see it. Let's go to Milo and Vermont. Oh, wait, 492 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: buic lecrosse. Milo. Welcome to the card doctor. How can 493 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: I help hi? 494 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: Doc? How you doing pretty good? 495 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting there, So what's going on? 496 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 5: I got a two thousand and eight buy Lacrosse three 497 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 5: point eight B six cold starts. It won't start. You 498 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 5: can crank on nothing all day and it just doesn't 499 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 5: get any fuel. So I tried putting a little shout 500 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 5: of ether in their steef of do anything. Still wouldn't fire. 501 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: So I brought it to a dealership. They did a 502 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 5: scan read on it and it came back as P 503 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 5: zero three hundred and zero one seven one right. And 504 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: I also wanted to replaced all this plugs, replace the wires, 505 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: replace the coil, and it seemed to be acting okay. 506 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: So what it was what I noticed was when it 507 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: was in this dealer's garage for like three hours, that 508 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: thought out a little bit and the vehicle was acting 509 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 5: very well. So the mechanics suggested to me to put 510 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 5: some non f and al high test fuel in it 511 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: and run it after I'd done a whole series of 512 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: other things to it. And I did, and when I 513 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 5: was coming back from another town, it got to be 514 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: about five o'clock in the afternoon to turn fifteen degrees 515 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: and the car started doing the same thing. So the 516 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 5: other codes that do populate that still come up this 517 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: P zero three hundred, P zero one seven one and 518 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: a P zero one zero six. It should be a 519 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 5: barometric sensor. 520 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Let me ask you. 521 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: So, with it being cold up here and the temperature 522 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: and everything, the car will not start if it goes 523 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: below twenty degrees. So I have to start the car 524 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: just about every two hours before the engine cools down, 525 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 5: and then before I go to bed at night, I 526 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 5: start the car and get up the next morning. Thankfully 527 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: it's still run it, so I can go somewhere. 528 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's let's do this. We gotta stop. Do this. 529 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: My look, do you have it? Do you do you 530 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: have a scan tool or you have a good mechanic 531 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: you can go in and talk. 532 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 5: To I just recently got a new mechanic. Yes, and 533 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: I do have a scan tool. 534 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So shut the car off. Let it sit for 535 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: eight hours, all right, go out with your scan tool. 536 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I want you to look at the coolant temperature PID, 537 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: which will show you engine temperature. And I want you 538 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: to look at the intake air temperature PID. I A T. 539 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's abbreviated as all right. If there is a 540 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: barrow PID, all right, go look up your barometric pressure 541 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: for the day wherever you are in Vermont, right, yeah, 542 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: And does it match what the scan tool says. Does 543 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: this have a bad barrow? Does this have a bad intake? 544 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Does this have a bad coin? If all three of 545 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: those match and they're correct, then we're going to look elsewhere. 546 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Then at the moment where it doesn't start, do we 547 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: have spark? Do we have injector pulse? Now we don't 548 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: have to get fancy listening to injector pulse a twenty 549 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: dollars thirty dollars mechanics deethoscope available in a neuropart store. 550 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Just listen to the injectors. Do 551 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: they click while you're cranking it? Click click, click, click click. 552 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: If we find we've got no injector pulse and we've 553 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: got no spark when it goes into this failure, because 554 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I haven't heard you say anybody tested for any of that. 555 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of working on that. It's fuel and it 556 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: could be right. But you know this is a fair. 557 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: One of the original codes they're about weeks ago was 558 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: something about a module or something locator underneath the car PC. 559 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Was it a P zero six? Oh, one six oh three. 560 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 5: Something like that. I should. 561 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: And it could be that's an internal memory error message 562 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: inside the PCM. But that's why I say, you know, 563 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: I want to know. Listen, do you have a snowblower? 564 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: You must have a snowblower. You live in Vermont, right, absolutely, 565 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: If your snowblower didn't start, how would you diagnose it? 566 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Spark fuel mechanical to plug out. 567 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 5: I'd see why or not it was actually getting any fuel? Right, 568 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: Maybe I plotted it out, maybe I didn't chill. 569 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: This is it? This is a giant snowblower. Brother, all right, Yeah, 570 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't care how. I don't care how complicated it 571 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: is or looks. Right. I want to know. Do I 572 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: have injector pulse? Do I have spark? Go down to 573 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: your local otoparts store you want to buy I'm going 574 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: to make you spend some money. You want to buy 575 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: a spark tester. Now, a spark tester is more much 576 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: more accurate than what everybody does where they'll put the 577 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: screwdriver against the cylinder head and look for spark. A 578 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: spark tester, an adjustable spark tester will open up the 579 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: gap to stress the ignition system under durest just as 580 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: if the plug was in the cylinder. All right, if 581 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: you spend one hundred bucks on all this stuff, I'll 582 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: be amazed. A spark tester, a mechanic stethoscope. Right. The 583 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: one that's going to cost your money would be a 584 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: fuel pressure gauge. It would be nice to know it. 585 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: It would be nice to know fuel pressure. Right. 586 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: That's what one when mechanics said something about pressurizing assistancy 587 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: when it's getting proper fuel right, they also mentioned something 588 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 5: about a filter sock being in the tank. 589 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 590 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: And this is the one thing I forgot to tell 591 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: you was this was when the vehicle is sitting idle, 592 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 5: it runs perfect. When you put it in drive and 593 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: go to leave to go somewhere, it knows dives. So 594 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: I have to manually shift that from first, second to third. 595 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: And thankfully I'm on a downhill slide going to any 596 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: talent I need to go to. 597 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you what, sit talk come back. 598 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 5: I tell you back from town coming to my home. Yeah, 599 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 5: you have to put it in like first or second, 600 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 5: and then you're only doing twenty miles an hour. 601 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Col right, George, I mean mylo I'm sorry, Milo sit tight, 602 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: let me pull ever take this pause. We'll finish up 603 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: on the other side. I'm running ay in the car, doctor, 604 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Yeah, and we're back Milo, you're still there. 605 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 606 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Before I forget, before we run out of time, go 607 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: out to Amazon. I'm gonna spend another fifteen bucks. Go 608 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: buy a four TV O F O R T I 609 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: v O two pack ethanol test kit. It's just these 610 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: two plastic bottles. It'll make sense to you when you 611 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: see it, all right, And you know you just got 612 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: to pull a fuel sample from the vehicle, which you 613 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: can do. Disconnect the fuel line, hook up a fuel 614 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: pressure gauge, hit the dump valve, fill the bottle. Let's 615 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: eliminate fuel. Do we have water in the tank? Do 616 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: we have incorrect ethanol rating? Right? You know where you 617 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: just in your fuel from name brand or is it 618 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: just various places? You're not fussy. 619 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: Most of our fuel is actually coming out of Canada, 620 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 5: seeing sense, we're so far north in Vermont, So okay, 621 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: all of our fuels coming from Canada's coming from irving fuel. 622 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: All right, So let's eliminate fuel as a problem. For 623 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: fifteen bucks. You can afford it, all right, let's just 624 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 1: take that off the table. I'm not so concerned about 625 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: the codes that this is setting. The P zero three 626 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: hundred and the P zero one seven to one. You know, 627 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: they really shouldn't have an effect on a no start condition, 628 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, unless it's severely running lean and misfiring because 629 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: of lack of fuel pressure or lack of fuel quality. 630 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: Too much water in the fuel, right, too much water 631 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: in the fuel won't support combustion. It won't support it cold, 632 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: it won't support it warmth. I want to know fuel quality. 633 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: I want to know temperature, pit values. I want to 634 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: know spark. I want to know injector pulse. All right, 635 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: and then we can talk in minutia about ignition, module, 636 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: hot wire, pain doesn't have power that you know, a 637 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: bunch of things we can talk about. Do those tests 638 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: this week, call me back next week. This car should 639 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: be easy to fix. My low. I'll be around for 640 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: you until the next time I'm running Andy and the 641 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: car Doctor. I made it. I made it good. Mechanics 642 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: aren't expensive. Even when they're sick, they're still placeless. See 643 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: you