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You're at the vall 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: you happy Sunday everybody. I hope all of you guys 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: are having a great football Sunday so far. But Drew Holliday, 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: in the latest move in the arms race in the 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, is headed to the Boston Celtics. So I 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: want to do a quick ten to fifteen minute breakdown 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: of that to get you guys ready for this season. 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: You guys are the joke before we get started. Subscribe 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: to the Volumes YouTube channels you don't miss any more 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: of our videos. Follow me on Twitter, Underscore jsonlt don't 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: forget about our podcast feed under Hoops tonight and keep 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: dropping those mail bag questions in the YouTube comments so 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: I can hit him next week during our season previews. 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So basic breakdown of 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the trade. The Celtics get Drew Holiday, the Blazers get 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Robert Williams, the backup center from the Celtics sometimes starting center, 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brogden, the guard who was a little annoyed 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that his name was thrown around in trade conversations this 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: summer even though he did not get traded. And then 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: the Blazers get two more first round picks as well. 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna go into further detail, much much further 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: detail on everything involving the Celtics in the season when 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: we do their season preview, which is coming up this week. 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: But today I want to briefly hit what Drew Holliday 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: will bring to the Celtics, what it means for the 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: Bucks Celtics matchup and how they stack up with the Nuggets, 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: and then what it means for the Blazer So we'll 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: just hit three quick things. We'll just go for about 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes this morning. So what woul Drew bring 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: to the Celtics. I look at it in three parts, 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: what he can do on the ball, what he can 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: do off the ball, and what he can do on 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: the defensive end of the floor. Let's start on the ball. 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: So last year, Drew averaged nineteen points, five rebounds, and 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: seven assists per game on fifty nine percent true shooting. 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: He was one of the best pick and roll ball 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: handlers in the entire NBA. Last year. He didn't qualify 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: for our high volume list because remember that was a 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: minimum of one thousand, but he ran nine hundred and 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: eighty six. So for all intents and purposes, he was 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: a high volume pick and roll guy last year, one 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: point one to one points per possession, which is outstanding. 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: If I dropped the qualifier to seven to fifty instead 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: of one thousand, we hit thirty four players who ran 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: at least seven hundred and fifty pick and rolls, and 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Drew was fourth on that list out of thirty four players, 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: behind only Damian Lillard, Luka Doncic, and Steph Curry. Now, 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: what I noticed on tape this year when I was 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: watching Drew really really nice chemistry with Brook Lopez, in 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: particular on pick and pops and then little short roles. 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: He was really active as a passer in pick and roll, 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: which is what they needed him to be, right And 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: he also shot really well on pull up threes thirty 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: six percent on four point three pull up three point 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: shots per game. He had a fifty two percent effective 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: field goal percentage on pull up jump shots overall, So 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: you get the idea. If he gets comes off that 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: ball screen has tons of space. He's rising and firing 85 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: is particularly from three, which helps him with his efficiency. 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: And then he has really good because he's a bigger, 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: stronger guard. He's really good at leveraging himself physically to 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: create angles for pocket passes and behind the back passes 89 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: and passes to the popping Lopez at the top of 90 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: the key. Things along those lines. Just a good combination 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: of passing and shot making. Now I expect him to 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: run some pick and pop with poor zingis because that's 93 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: kind of a natural kind of transition, right. But one 94 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: of the things I'd look for a lot this year 95 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: is Drew and Jason Tatum running pick and roll together. 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Tatum is one of the like underrated really good short 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: role players in the league because he's actually really gifted 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: passer and they don't do it that often. I'd like 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: to see them do it more. But it's a great 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: way to manufacture dribble penetration. Remember this is a driving 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: kick team. They beat you with aggregate ball handling and 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: shooting in a lot of cases, especially in the meat 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: and potatoes of the season, right before we get to 104 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: things when they slow down. So like, one of the 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: great ways to manufacture dribble penetration is instead of having 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: a dude dribble seventeen times and try to beat somebody, goes, 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: set a ball screen and slip it and have Drew 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: Holiday hit you on the bounce or on a lob 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: over the top so that you can navigate a four 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: on three and maybe make a play right, because those 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: switches are so difficult to navigate, So look for a 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: lot of Drew pick and roll to try to get 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: them started offensively. And then he's also one of the 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: better options in the league in switching schemes because he 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: can attack matchups. He was one of the best post 116 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: up guards in the NBA. Last year. Drew Holiday averaged 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: one point one to four points per possession in post 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: ups including passes. Ninety five possessions too, so that's more 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: than once per game. Now, we heard a lot about 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: this when Brad Stevens was talking about it after the 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: season when they went after Porzingis. But one of the 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: biggest concerns for Boston is, you know, their top tier 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: ball handlers Tatum and Brown are still developing, right, and 124 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: so sometimes they can struggle and slow down half court environments. 125 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that opponents will do 126 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: is to start switching, because when you switch, it stagnates 127 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: them and dares their primary ball handlers to make plays 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: off the bounce right. And so they vastly improved their 129 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: versatility in switching schemes offensively this year by adding Porzingis 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: a bona fide post up threat, Andrew Holliday a guard 131 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: who can punish smaller guards as well. So they just 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: have more ways to attack switching schemes as currently constructed 133 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: than they did last year. Drew also shot sixty eight 134 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: percent in the restricted area last year, which is like 135 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: off the charts good for a guard, and he's properly slotted. 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: You got to remember in the Bucks offense, they needed 137 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: him to shoot a lot. And that's not to say 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: that he can't for the Celtics, but I think he's 139 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: going to get to be like call it twenty percent 140 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: more so, and how often he's going to be aggressive, 141 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's going to bump his efficiency even further. 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: I'd expect him to be down around like sixteen seventeen 143 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: points per game, but over sixty percent true shooting. That's 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: what I see from Drew Holliday this year off ball, deadly, 145 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: on catch and shoot, jumper sixty seven percent, effective field 146 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: goal percentage seventy one percent when he was unguarded one 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: point one five points per possession, and spot up situation, 148 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: so that's including his ability to attack closeouts. That's in 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the sixtieth percentile, so considerably above average. He's also a 150 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: good cutter. He's spend a decent amount of time in 151 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the dunker spot, specifically when uh Jiannis would be working 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: from the top of the key in his you know, 153 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: just kind of like barrel down the lane ISOs a 154 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of times, like Drew Halla would just kind of 155 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: naturally end up in the dunker spot, and he can 156 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: navigate as a cutter down there. He also will flash 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: high a lot and try to get you know, release 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: valve possessions when when the teams are loading up and 159 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: pick and roll on Chris Middleton or something along those lines, right, 160 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: the occasional even see a duck in from Drew Holliday, 161 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: something that he can do. So he's a really really 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: versatile off ball player as well. I think I think 163 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: overall on offense, he's a perfect and natural fit next 164 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: to Tatum and Brown. He already knows how to run 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: pick and pop from Brook Lopez. That'll be a natural 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: fit with Chris tops porzingis couple things. One, what did 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: we say about Boston and ball handling? So if you 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: remember after they lost to the Heat excuse me, after 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: they lost to the Warriors in twenty twenty two. You know, 170 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Colin Coward and I had this long conversation after that series, 171 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: like what does Boston need? Do they need a guard 172 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: like that? Maybe they need to improve their aggregate ball handling, remember, 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: And so they went out and got Malcolm Brogden, And 174 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's like because the idea 175 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: was like Tatum and Brown are not quite ready to 176 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: be like offensive initiators at the highest level. That was 177 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of the the takeaway coming from that twenty twenty 178 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: two series, Right, So Derek White's already there but then 179 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: you bring in Malcolm Brogden, you vastly increase the aggregate 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: ball handling on the roster. Right, But then we find 181 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: out they on into the Miami Heat and the conference 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: finals and a couple of situations against the Sixers as well, 183 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: when that series dragged on, and it's like, oh wait, 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: Like the ball is still ending up in Tatum and 185 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Brown's hands and they're still struggling because like when it 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: push comes to shove, it's like, Okay, is Tatum as 187 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: good as a half court shot creator as the best 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: guys in the league. Maybe not, but he's better than 189 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogden, and he's better than Derek White. So like 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: aggregate ball handling is great and all, but like you're 191 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: not gonna pitch the ball to Derek White and just 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: have him run all your offense down the end of 193 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: the game, Like he's just gonna get beat by better players. Right, 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: Like if I have a five minute stretch and a 195 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: pivotal playoff game and it's Derek White trying to create 196 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: shots versus Steph Curry, like it's not gonna go well 197 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: for you. Steph's just better than Derek White, Right, So, 198 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: like that was the big lesson I learned from the 199 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Celtics last year and something that I feel pretty passionately about, Like, 200 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: really it comes down to Tatum. It comes down to Tatum. 201 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Drew's gonna help. We're gonna talk about him on the 202 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: defensive end of the floor, and he's a huge defensive upgrade. 203 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: That's what I look at this as as a defensive 204 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: upgrade for the Boston Celtics. But when push comes to shove, 205 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's going to have to out execute some of 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: his peers. That's the reality. That is what I said 207 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: after the season. I feel very strongly about that, like 208 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: the ultimate ceiling of the Celtics comes down to Jason 209 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Tatum's development. Like you can have aggregate ball handling and 210 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: that will certainly help you in the big picture, but 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: your top end ball handling is what matters the most 212 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: in these slow down half court environments. And we just 213 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: have one of the best top end ball handlers in 214 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: the league, and Nicola Jokicic just utterly obliterate everyone in 215 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: the league. And these days it's like you're gonna have 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: to beat to Jokics, You're gonna have to beat Luca. 217 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna date now in the Eastern Conference, 218 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: because that was the thing. Is in the Eastern Conference, 219 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: it was like, why does Jimmy Butler keep beating all 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: these guys, And it's because none of them are half 221 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: court surgeons, be honest. One of the very best players 222 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: in the league, not a half court surgeon. Tatum one 223 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: of the best half court players in the league, not 224 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: a half court surgeon. Joel Embiid one of the best 225 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: players in the league, not a half court surgeon. And 226 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: so they get into these slowdown environments and Jimmy Butler's 227 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: just better than them at that. And so that's the thing, 228 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: is like, now you bring Damian Lillard into the equation, 229 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: and now there's two guys in the Eastern Conference that 230 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: you have to navigate through that are half court surgeons 231 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Butler and in Damian Lillard, and so like 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like I love the Drew trade and 233 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get a little bit further into it. 234 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: But make no mistake, like Boston's not winning a title 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: unless Jason Tatum goes up a level as a half 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: court shot creator, and I believe he will. The question is, 237 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: is it this year or is it next year or 238 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: is it the following year. Is it gonna happen while 239 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: this roster is so incredibly talented and put together, or 240 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: is it gonna happen down the line when payroll concerns 241 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: arise and they lose some talent. You know, that's gonna 242 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: be the ultimate kind of balancing act here. But I 243 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: do like the idea of going all in on this 244 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: particular right because at the end of the day, like 245 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: if you get if Tatum breaks through, this team's winning it. 246 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: They just have too much talent. This was already the 247 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: most talented roster in the league before we brought Drew Holliday, 248 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: before we brought Kristaps Porzingis into the mix. So like, 249 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Tatum just just has to make the lead, and if 250 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: he does, I really do think this team is gonna 251 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: end up holding the Larry O'Brien Trophy. Now let's move 252 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: on to the defensive end of the four. Drew is 253 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: one of the most versatile pick and roll defenders in 254 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the league. I want to emphasize versatile for a minute, 255 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: because what does that mean to me? That has to 256 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: do with scheme to scheme versatility. So, for instance, there 257 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of point of attack defenders who are 258 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: really good at navigating screens and bothering ball handlers, but 259 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: really struggle when they get switched onto bigger players. I 260 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: just covered one of these guys with the Lakers. That's 261 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder. Right, Like, there are a lot of guys 262 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: that are small, quick, scrappy, can navigate screens, but god 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: forbid they get switched. It's just a problem, you know. 264 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Or like a big man has to contain the ball 265 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: handler because they get caught on a screen once and 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: then they have to try to crack down on the 267 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: bit on the opposing big man to try to box 268 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: him out, and he just has no chance because he's tiny. Right. 269 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys who are good at 270 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: sliding their feet in an open floor situation and containing 271 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: the ball, but struggle to navigate screens. Anthony Edwards is 272 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: a guy like that. Anthony Edwards really really good on 273 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: ball defender, but has to develop the ability to navigate 274 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: screens better. That's something he'll figure out in the long run. Right. 275 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys who can do everything 276 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: on the ball but struggle off the ball. And that's 277 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: what's unique about Drew Holidays. He can literally do it all. 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: He can navigate, you can nagate, can't speak. He can 279 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: navigate screens really well. He has the length and athleticism 280 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: to bother players from behind with back pressure. He can 281 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: contain the ball straight up in isolation situations. He can 282 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: switch on to forwards and guard in the post. He 283 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: can defend off the ball. He actually is a really 284 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: good feel for defensive playmaking, which is like when you 285 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: break off script to try to make a play like 286 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: a random double team or jumping a passing lane or 287 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: something along those lines. It's a major basketball like q 288 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: thit and you can do some damage to your team 289 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: if you're not careful. But Drew just has a really 290 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: good feel for that kind of stuff. And famously, in 291 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NBA Finals, one of the biggest 292 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: plays of the series was him making an impromptu double 293 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: team of Devin Booker from behind when he had his 294 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: head turn trying to isolate PJ. Tucker. So I think, 295 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: just in general, this is a massive step forward for 296 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: the Boston defense. This is the Boston defense that took 297 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: a big step back last year from the standpoint of 298 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: their effort and energy. I know a lot of Celtics 299 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: fans are annoyed with me about this because I keep 300 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: saying it, But like, go look at the numbers and 301 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: then watch them on TV. Like the twenty twenty two 302 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Celtics were a frightening defense, the twenty twenty three Celtics 303 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: were a good defense, and like they didn't lose any players. 304 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: It literally came down to from the top down every 305 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: single play on the roster. From Marcus Marto was Defensive 306 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Player of the Year the year before and went down 307 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: a level. Jason Tatum, who I said, what might be 308 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: the best perimeter defender in the league this year year 309 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: before locking down, he went down a level. Jayalen Brown 310 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: went down a big level, Like everybody on that roster 311 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: went down a level defensively, and so Drew Holliday is 312 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: a good starting point there for them to try to 313 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: get that identity back. Now, what does it mean for 314 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics Milwaukee Bucks matchup? To me, this is 315 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: the super interesting part of this story. Dame is gonna 316 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: have to overcome his demons because as we look back 317 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: through Dame's career, it's kind of like if somebody asked 318 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: you to tell me the story of of the Dame 319 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: NBA experience, most of you are gonna say the same thing. 320 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, really good player, bona fide superstar, 321 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: but was playing for a limited roster most of his career, 322 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: was mostly an underdog and didn't really accomplish much in 323 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's what you'd say. And for the most part, 324 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: it's true. Like Dame lost a lot of playoff series 325 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: against teams where he was an underdog. We know that, right, 326 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: But there was one in particular where he was not. 327 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: In the twenty eighteen NBA playoffs, the three seed Portland 328 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Trailblazers run into the six seed New Orleans Pelicans. Now 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: they were kind of bunched up in the standings, but 330 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: they were favored, and Dame got his ass kicked by 331 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday, just got utterly locked up. Anthony Davis was 332 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: awesome too, and the Pelicans swept the Portland Trailblazers, And 333 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: so it's kind of cool. I always talk about, like, 334 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of the journey when it comes 335 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: to basketball, right, like loss leading to scar tissue, scar 336 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: tissue leading to better habits and better commitment. That the 337 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: better habits and commitment leading to wins, right, Like it's 338 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: a pathway. Right. I also talk about stars needing to 339 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: dig deep and achieve things that they've never achieved before 340 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: to get the trophy. It's why I don't like when 341 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: teams are monumentally more talented than the rest of the league. 342 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. The Bucks and the Celtics are 343 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: really talented. They're not monumentally more talented than the rest 344 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: of the league. Like they're just as Like Denver's right 345 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: there with them, right, Phoenix is right there with them, 346 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: The Lakers are right there with them. Like they're five 347 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: teams at the top of this league that are all 348 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of on the same tier. Right, And so from 349 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: that standpoint, like I like it that one of these 350 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: teams is gonna require a star to rise above and 351 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: achieve a level of play that even they didn't think 352 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: they were capable of. Right. And that's the thing, Like 353 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Dame's gonna have to earn it. He didn't get traded, 354 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: be honest and get to walk his way into a title. 355 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Not only is he gonna have to earn it, but 356 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to confront one of his demons and 357 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: one of his demons is that Drew Holliday has his 358 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: damn number, and Drew Holliday from day one of a 359 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: Celtics Bucks playoff series is gonna be up in Dames grill, 360 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: making it difficult. And so that's cool because that means 361 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: if Milwaukee gets the trophy, Dame will have had to 362 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: have overcome that. Now, as I look at the matchups. 363 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: As I look at the matchups, there's a couple It 364 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like transitive property stuff because 365 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: in a weird way, I think the Celtic are built 366 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: to beat Milwaukee, but I think the Milwaukee Bucks are 367 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: built to beat Denver. But I think Denver's built to 368 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: beat Boston. And the reason why is the strengths and 369 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: weaknesses of all the rosters. Right, Like, Boston is uniquely 370 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: equipped to give the Bucks problems on both ends of 371 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: the floor. Drew Holliday is an ideal defensive matchup for 372 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, right and in general, that team on the 373 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: other end of the floor doesn't have a lot of 374 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: perimeter defense, and Boston's a team that's gonna stretch you 375 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: out like Dame's gonna have to guard. Giannis and Chris 376 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have to guard They're probably gonna have to 377 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: guard Tatum and Brown for an entire series. They're gonna 378 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: have to slide their feet on the perimeter, right, So 379 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: like that's the thing is, like Boston is kind of 380 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: uniquely equipped to force Milwaukee into playing a style that 381 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: they're not good at. Right. But then as I go 382 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: the other way, like if Boston beats Milwaukee and makes 383 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: it to the finals, their front court right now, they 384 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: lost Grant Williams, who's one of their bigger switchable forwards, 385 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: and they lost Robert Williams, who's arguably the best defensive 386 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: player on that roster. Right, and now your two bigs 387 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: are krisps Porzingis, who's a very good player and we're 388 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about him next week, but it 389 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: has an injury history and Al Horford, who's pretty damn old. 390 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: So like, the Celtics need a good amount of luck 391 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: injury luck to get to where they want to go 392 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: this year. And when you put krisps Porzingis and Al 393 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Horford in a front line, I don't know how much 394 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: they'll play together. They probably will have to play together 395 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: a little bit against Denver. But like if you put 396 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: those two on the front line. That's just not that 397 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: good defensively to handle a Jokic Gordon front line, So 398 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: like in a weird way, they could run into some 399 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: problems with Denver. Also, you need to be outstanding in 400 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: your perimeter shot making to cause problems for Denver. And 401 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: like Drew Holliday's a good pull up shooter, Jason Tatum's 402 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: a good pull up shooter. But like Jason Tatum barely 403 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: cracked thirty percent on pull up threes last year. They're 404 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna have trouble really stretching Denver's defense the way that 405 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: they need to. Whereas Milwaukee has the front line to 406 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: cause problems for Denver, Milwaukee has Dame who is such 407 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: a high level perimeter shot maker he can really stretch 408 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: out Yokichen pick and roll and cause problems and keep 409 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: them in rotation a lot. So like it's interesting because, 410 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: like I all three of these teams are good in 411 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: different ways, But right now I think Denver would beat Boston, 412 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: Boston would beat Milwaukee, and Milwaukee would beat Denver. So 413 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: like it, And that's kind of like just the way 414 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: these matchups are shaking out. So like this is gonna 415 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: be really interesting year, and just as is always the case, 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: matchups and luck and health is gonna play a huge 417 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: role and has in how this all shakes out all. Right, 418 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: last thing for today, Portland. I love this deal for 419 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Portland for two reasons. One, now you have two very 420 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: different big men to evaluate to see who fits long 421 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: term with your guards, right, because Robert Williams is like 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: a defensive guy who's very willing to play a role 423 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: like he doesn't need to shoot. And Robert Williams is 424 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: actually a better short role passer than excuse me, then 425 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: he's a better short role passer than DeAndre Ayton is. 426 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: And that could be really valuable with a ton of 427 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: really good guards, especially guards like Anfredie Simons that are 428 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: good pull up shooters that are gonna pull the screen 429 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: defender out. And so anytime team's put two on the 430 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: ball against Portland, like Robert Williams is a great option 431 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: there in a short role, right. But then Ayton is 432 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: just a much much better offensive player overall. So you know, 433 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: all of the dribble handoff stuff we've been talking about 434 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: with teams like Miami and Golden State and teams like 435 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: Sacramento and all the advantages of having a big man 436 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: who can run dribble handoffs, like now you can really 437 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: try that with Ayton and see if he's capable of it, 438 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: you know. So they've got good you know, they've got 439 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: a couple of options there that they can kind of explore. 440 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: And then secondly, they got the Malcolm Brogden' contract back, 441 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: which is going to be another player that everyone's going 442 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: to want to trade for early in training camp. So 443 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: like by the time it's all said and done, this 444 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: is going to have broken really well for Portland. Alright, guys, 445 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: that is all I have for today. We will be 446 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: hitting the Bucks and the Celtics each in season preview 447 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: videos this coming week. As always, I appreciate you guys, 448 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: and I will see you on Monday. The volume