1 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. We're not supposed to 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: favor one show over another. That would be like favoring 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: one child over another. We can't do that. But I'm 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: just saying, I really love tonight show. This one right here. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: It's it's the middle of March, it's a Thursday night. 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Everyone else in the building's on vacation, not us. We 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: got a jam pack show where high attop a pulsating 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Well, because spring is right around the corner, 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: which means yes, spring football. We're not quite diving into 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: that yet though, although I will have spring intel and 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: whispers as we pick up some hoof beats from the 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: trail in the coming days. But tonight I need to 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: talk to you about something that I haven't spoken to 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: you about since the latest news broke on this tip topic, 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: and that is that whole fsu Clemson acc. Is it 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: going to implode? Are they going anywhere? And apparently a 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of my friends, a lot of the people in 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: my social circle tend to believe, no, everything's settled now. 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: It's not settled, people, It's not settled at all. In fact, 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the same stuff that was going to happen is still 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: going to happen. They may have canned down the road 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: a little ways, but now it's very clear where we're headed. 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: It was a little foggy, a little hazy before that. 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I have a very scientific debate that we need to 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: have on the show tonight, extremely scientific. There is no 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: more there is no more perfect sample size for college 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: football than this audience. Who are the most hated teams 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: in this sport right now, not historically, right now, most 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: hated teams? And we are divided as a people. I'm 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: just telling you. Colin will show you what I mean 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but we are divided. We apparently 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: are being misunderstood on arch Manning. I'll address that later. 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: I probably one of the the worst misunderstandings that I 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: can remember in the modern era of this show. Jesse 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: was from one of you who lashed out, and you 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: know how rarely I use that phrase, but lashed out 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: at an arch Manning take that I never had. But 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: we need to address it in case someone does have 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: this take, because if you do have the take, I'm 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: accused of having not a good thing, and recruiting rankings 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: are under attack. So it sounds like a volatile show 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: tonight because it is. But it'll be a happy show, 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: it'll be constructive show, and it'll be one that makes 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you sound a lot smarter around the old college football 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: water cooler. In the coming days, they're watching us in Raleigh, 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Where else they're watching us in? All right, 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: let me gear up for this one. You know what, 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: I'll put the Hawaiian city to the end, Alpina, Michigan, Abilene, Texas. 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: They're tuned in Copole, Hawaii. Is the best I can do. 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys being tuned in out. There was 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: in Texas all day yesterday, went from Dallas to College Station, 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: to Austin to Nashville. Got here in time to work 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: out last night, so a full day. We've got our 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: Mike el Co conversation up on the channel right now. 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I will have the ret Lashly conversation up on the 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: channel by tomorrow, which is Friday. If you're watching live, 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: if you're listening to the replay, it's probably there already 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: really good stuff from both of them. We construct these 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: conversations on the State Speaker series to where if you're 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: a North Dakota State fan or a Michigan State fan 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: or a UTSA fan. It appeals to you. We talk 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: about stuff that extends well beyond just the parameters of 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: that coach's team. Otherwise I wouldn't bother doing it because 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: then it would be far too niche and focused an audience. Okay, 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: let's dive into the show tonight. I'm gonna pop the 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: paper ahead of time. If that's okay with everyone, I'm 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna pop a couple of things, the paper and the 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: top on a ZVA. I can't have sugar for this segment. 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: It's gotta be zero sugar, and that's why we bring 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: ZEV along for the ride. You know, ZV has been 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: around when we've talked about this next subject for quite 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: a while. It looked for a long time like the 73 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: ACC was in peril, did it not. They looked like 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: they were in peril to me, And then that was 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: kind of confirmed because what did we have. We had 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: member institutions in the ACC, namely Florida State and Clemson 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: pursuing legal options to try and get out of the conference. 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: So don't tell me there was nothing going on when 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: there was clearly something going on. Well, lately, the tone 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: has shifted. So since you and I last spoke. We 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: had several, you know, bits of breaking news the other day. 82 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of people being told, okay, you 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: can run with it now, and they all have the 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: same story, and they run with it. But they have 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: settled any active litigation with the ACC, Florida State, Clemson, 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: so they're not suing their own conference anymore. They're not 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to get out anymore, at least for the time being. 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm winking if you're listening on podcasts, and we appreciate 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you if you do, make sure you subscribe. And the 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: reason that this kind of de escalated was because it 91 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: went down the only path it go down. So the 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: ACC is saying, this looks terrible. Our own kids want 93 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: to sue us and leave. And the kids are like, yeah, 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: we're not being fed enough. We're starving. We go to 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: school every day and our friends have syrup mustaches all 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: over the corners of their mouth. They'd smell like school breakfast. 97 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: But hey, at least they're being fed. We got nothing. 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: We're so emaciated. We look terrible. And then the conference said, Okay, 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: if you'll just stop threatening to leave home, we'll give 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: you a little bit more food than the rest of 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: your siblings get That's basically where we're at right now. 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: It's just a continuance. It's just deferring, kicking cans down 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: the road. But what we've got here, if you haven't 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: been paying attention and judging by the traffic these articles 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: have gotten, you haven't been. It matters though. That's why 106 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it on the show. There are brand 107 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: initiatives baked into this sort of new deal in the 108 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: ACC and there are what are called success factors baked 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: in as well, a bunch of legal nonsense that essentially 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: means if people watch your games a whole lot, you're 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: gonna make more money, and if you win more, you're 112 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna make more money. So we're headed towards a little 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: bit more of a meritocracy based system, which sounds great. 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: But also here is where the rubber meets the road. Yes, 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: if you're Florida State and you're more popular and you 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: get higher viewership, you're gonna make more money here, ditto 117 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: for Clemson or Florida Miami or whoever or whopstever. But 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: the important part here is the exit fee, the money 119 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: you'd have to pay to leave the conference drops every 120 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: year and it settles at seventy five million dollars to 121 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: leave the conference in twenty thirty one. Remember that date, 122 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Remember that year. It's gonna be talked about for the 123 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: next half decade. Twenty thirty one, which seems like it's 124 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: a long way away now, But you remember Joe Burrow 125 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: at LSU. You remember Ed ors Aron, that magical season LSU. 126 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: That was as far in the rearview mirror as twenty 127 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: thirty one is in the windshield. It's not that far away. 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Although I'm not in any hurry to get there, but 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: it's not that far away. That's when everything goes kaboom. 130 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: That's when everything could go kaboom. And in the ACC terms, 131 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: that is when everyone could hit the exit door affordably. Again, 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, this is management money we're talking about to 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: you and I. Seventy five million, that's a pretty hefty 134 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: chunk of change. But these are management types, okay, so 135 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: they can afford it. What really happened here? Okay, So 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: here's what happened. Not much changed, really, it seems like 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a ton changed, but not much changed. The big boys 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: in the ACC still no long term, we're not going 139 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: to be able to match with Alabama or Ohio State 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: or Southern col or Georgia, because we're not gonna make 141 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: as much money as them now in the short term, 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Florida State and Clemson or Miami or North Carolina. You know, 143 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: whoever's good and popular gotta be both, can't just be one. 144 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Whoever fits that description in the short term stands to 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: make enough to where they can at least be in 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: the ballpark. I'm gonna dumb it down because these are 147 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: not exact numbers. But if Tennessee is making, let's just say, 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars a year for being in the SEC. 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: If Michigan, let's just say, is making seventy five million 150 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: for being in the big ten, and Florida State because 151 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: they're a winner and because they're popular, can make sixty 152 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: one million dollars in a year. It's not matching exactly, 153 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: but it's close enough. At that point, you're at least competitive. 154 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: What you can't do is be making half of what 155 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: they make every year and still be expected to compete 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: with them. That's what you can't do. Okay, So in 157 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the short term, yes, as long as you take care 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: of your business and you're popular, so You're an established brand, 159 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: so you got the high TV ratings and you got 160 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the good win loss record, you're making the playoff and whatnot. 161 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: You can make enough money to sustain yourself, but you 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: still want to lead long term, you still want to leave. 163 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. In that very very simplified scenario. 164 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Even the best case still has you lagging behind what 165 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: they just get for existing, Like Kentucky gets more money 166 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: for waking up tomorrow morning then you'd get if you 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: had the highest viewership in your conference and you won 168 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: a couple of playoff games. So that's still not acceptable 169 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: long term. I mean, Florida State looks in the mirror 170 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and says, there is no way Vanderbilt should be making 171 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: more than me in the world of college football. And 172 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: you can understand why they'd feel that way. So this 173 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: can you got it just kind of being deferred down 174 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: the road until twenty thirty one. In twenty thirty one, 175 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: why is that so important? Well, I just told you 176 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: from an acc standpoint why it's important because it costs 177 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: the least it would ever cost to get out of 178 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: the conference in twenty thirty one. Remember those numbers being 179 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: thrown around Jesse and Colin. People thought it would take 180 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: like three hundred million, four hundred million if they tried 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: to break the grant of rights. This past year, well 182 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: seventy five by comparison, is chump change. So twenty thirty 183 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: one is important because they can get out at that 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: point for still a pretty high price tag, but an 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: affordable price tag. But why twenty thirty one, Well, it's 186 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: not just a random year. That's why. It's the year 187 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: the Big twelve media rights deal is up. It's the 188 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: year the Big ten media rights deal is up thereabouts, 189 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: It's the year the March Madness TV rights deal is up, 190 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: and it's the year the college football playoff rights deal 191 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: is up. The SEC a couple of years after that 192 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: has their deal up with ESPN. The thinking is it's 193 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: basically a waterfall moment for television, for college athletics, for 194 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: media rights in general. And you also have to understand 195 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: hit fast forward another five years on Netflix, hit fast 196 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: forward another five years on any of a number of 197 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: streaming plays. Are they in Are they fully in the 198 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: live event space and the live sporting space to the 199 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: point where they're buying media writes deals in package form 200 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: instead of one off events. My guess is yes they are, 201 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: so there'll be a ton of money available at that point. 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a waterfall moment in the sense 203 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that if you've ever been canoeing down a river, hopefully 204 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: you've never experienced this. I doubt many of you have 205 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: experienced this, But just paint the picture in your mind. 206 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: Let's go theater of the imagination for a second. If 207 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: you're canoeing down the river, just ho hum, and then 208 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: you see the waterfall up ahead and you can't get 209 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to the side. What do you know? You know you're 210 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: in trouble, but you don't know how much trouble because 211 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: you don't know how steep the waterfall is. You don't 212 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: know how far the drop will be. You don't really 213 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: know anything about what's beyond the waterfall. You just know 214 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: where it is. Okay, that's the one saving grace. You're 215 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: not blindfolded. You don't have to guess when the drops come, 216 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: and you know twenty thirty one right there, that's where 217 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the edge of the waterfall is. But beyond that, am 218 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I gonna survive at period? If I'm wake Forest, I'd 219 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: wonder that. If I'm Clemson, I don't wonder if I'm 220 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna survive. I wonder where in the world I'm gonna land, 221 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: how much? How much? How healthy am I when I land? 222 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Do I land in the Big ten? Do I land 223 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: in the waters of the sec Do those brands even 224 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: mean the same thing in twenty thirty one that they 225 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: mean now? So the potential issue, that's bookmark that. Okay, 226 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: turn the page with me for a second, just bookmark 227 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: that point. It sounds good for the time being. If 228 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: you're a major, established brand in the ACC, right, we 229 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: keep mentioning the same ones. If I'm a Florida State fan, 230 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled, but I'm okay because I know if 231 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I take care of business on my end, people will 232 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: watch my games and I'll make extra money cause I win. 233 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not just trailing behind Florida to the point 234 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: where I can't keep up just because they happen to 235 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: have a different Conferences sticker on their helmet than me. 236 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: So I'm okay with it. Not great, but I'm okay 237 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: with it. But that's only if the status quo remains 238 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: the same. So I always tell you, humbly but forcefully, 239 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: you're not wasting your time watching this show A lot 240 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: of you have observed that there are things we say 241 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: on the show. There's some themes, some areas, some roads 242 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: we go down and then you start hearing it elsewhere. 243 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: That's a compliment. We're not always first on stuff. We 244 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: don't even fancy ourselves a breaking news show or anything 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: like that, but we talk to people constantly. Sometimes it's 246 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: a coach, sometimes it's a conference commissioner, sometimes it's an 247 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: executive at a major network. But we're really informed, or 248 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: try to be on stuff like this. So there's this 249 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: theme that I've noticed a lot of people bouncing around 250 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: this week because there is a potential flaw. There is 251 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: a potential fly in the ointment here for Florida State 252 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: and Clemson. Sure, if everyone keeps making what they're making 253 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: and you can get close to what they're making, then 254 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: that's wonderful and a lot of the advantage they had 255 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: over you has been erased. But if I take you 256 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: back to January, on this very show, we saw this 257 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: coming and I painted one of the first potential downside 258 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: scenarios that could rear its ugly head for the big 259 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: boys in the acc You roll it, Colin, Does anyone 260 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: really think that the bigger brands in the ACC are 261 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: going to be willing to pull this off to where 262 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: they disproportionately benefit through brand initiatives and success initiatives. And 263 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Georgia is not going to look at that and then 264 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: look at their league office and say, why don't we 265 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: have this? You really don't think Ohio State and Michigan 266 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: look at this and don't look at their league office 267 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and say, hold up a second, why don't we earn 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: more than perdue? They will, and they are. I just 269 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: don't think it's being written about yet, but common sense 270 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: tells me that's coming. I've always been uneasy about this. 271 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Jamie Pollard's the ad up at Iowa State. He said 272 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: this a while back. He was dead on the money 273 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: and he was kind of tongue in cheek talking about 274 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: how there are people at second and third tier schools 275 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: in the SEC that just pound their chest and blindly 276 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: yell SEC. And he was like, who says you'll always 277 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: be in the SEC? So, now that we've gotten a 278 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: little further down the road, I'll tell you this. I 279 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: wasn't just running my mouth to hear my mouth run. 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I've been accused of doing such things, but I wasn't 281 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: that night. I was telling you that because I was 282 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: hearing even then that was already happening. I don't think 283 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: that's been reported anywhere. I don't think anyone has broken 284 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: that story, and I'm not the one who will break it. 285 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you point blank, conversations along those lines 286 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: have already happened. So it's not theoretical. Florida State clemes 287 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of the big boys in the ACC, 288 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: they found a way to tilt their conferences, media rights 289 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: deal in their favor. Thus far, that doesn't exist in 290 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the Big ten. You kind of earn what you earn. 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: In the SEC you kind of earn what you earn. 292 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: And the thinking is everyone's earning so much. Let's pigs 293 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: get fed, hogs get slaughtered, let's not complain. But when 294 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: the Alabamas or the Ohio States of the world look 295 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: at Clemson in Florida State being able to pull that 296 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: off in the ACC, human nature is to look around 297 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: for Ohio State and say, why in the world should 298 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Northwestern earn what we earn. Human nature is for the 299 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: University of Texas to look around and ask why in 300 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: the world would Vanderbilt earn what we earn? And once 301 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: there's precedent in the room. They can ask that question 302 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: and then follow it up, and they can say, look 303 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: at the acc if you're not picking up what I'm 304 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: putting down, they are. They've already practiced that. So Hey, 305 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: if you're Florida State and you can pull to within 306 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year with Florida, that's great. But 307 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: if Florida reworks the whole mechanism in the SEC where 308 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: they pull further ahead, well then you're kind of back 309 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: to where you were already. This doesn't really even concern 310 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of us because we don't make that money anyway. 311 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Twenty thirty one does concern me, though, maybe in a 312 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: bad way, maybe in a good way. That's the nature 313 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: of the waterfall. We don't know what comes after it. 314 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I will say this and this is where we'll leave 315 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: that bookmark because we've got a long time to twenty 316 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: thirty one. Many of you are unhappy with the state 317 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: of college football right now. Many of you, I'm one 318 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: of them, do not like that regionality and territoriality has 319 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: been totally evaporated. The concept of what a conference used 320 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: to be has totally eroded away, and you've got the 321 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: era of the Super Conference and the era of nationalizing conferences. 322 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: In flavor USC and Rutgers playing the same conference, for example, 323 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: I do believe we're headed towards the world where we 324 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: have a big Officially, we already have it unofficially, the 325 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: SEC and the Big Ten lap everyone already unofficially but officially. 326 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: Maybe down the road we get to where even in 327 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when we first started doing this show, I 328 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: told you we were headed. Which is sort of an 329 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: AFC NFC version of college football. Just the AFC's role 330 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: is played by the Big Ten and the NFC's role 331 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: is played by the SEC. That sucks. You hate it, 332 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: I know you do. There is one little ray of 333 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: sunshine that I want to present you, and that is 334 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: there's a way everything's made whole again. You know, there 335 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: is a world it's well down the road. So I 336 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: just want to plant this seed. Now, there's a world 337 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: down the road where if you think about if you 338 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: think about college football programs or college athletic departments, I mean, 339 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: they all still exist. It's not like Stanford disappeared. They're 340 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: just in a new conference. It's not like Arizona and 341 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Arizona State disappeared. They just happened to play in a 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: new conference. Well, what if down the road, all of 343 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: that kind of gets collectively swallowed up by two major brands, 344 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: and then someone who has a little common sense about 345 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: themselves or a little bit of appreciation about the history 346 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: of college football and what makes sense for college football 347 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: is in charge by that point, and they look around 348 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: and they say, well, we have all of the assets 349 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: that used to make up the Pac twelve. We've got 350 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: twenty four teams in this conference now, anyway, why don't 351 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: we divide it back up. What I'm basically suggesting is, 352 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: what if we get to a world where the SEC 353 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: and the Big ten gobble up all the major programs 354 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: and all the major teams. But then they look and 355 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: they say, we got way too much inventory here. We've 356 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: got to divide this up. What you would call divisions 357 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: in the pro game, we would call conferences in college football. 358 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: What if the Pac ten just comes right on back. 359 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: What if the ACC just comes right on back, or 360 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: what if versions of those conferences just come right on back. 361 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: They're under different ownership, But we don't care about that. 362 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: It doesn't really concern us. What concerns me is I 363 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: want to see regionality matter again. And maybe, just maybe, 364 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: way down the road, we find out that because college 365 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: sports got thrown in such a blender, the only way 366 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: to get it back to where we wanted it to 367 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: be aesthetically at least, was for a lot of consolidation 368 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: to happen. There's no guarantee we go that route. You 369 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: know me, I'm very optimistic, and so that's the way 370 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: I want it to go. So why not use the 371 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: microphone to speaking into existence. Academy will be there either way. 372 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: That much, I can pretty much promise you. Academy Sports 373 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: and Outdoors is especially there for you in March because 374 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: March is opening season for a lot of leagues around 375 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: the country. You need a lot of equipment. You need 376 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: a lot of supporting equipment. Supporting equipment would be like 377 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: the lawn chair you sit in while Little Theodore plays 378 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: second base for the rec league team. Believe in recreational leagues, people, 379 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't always have to be travel ball. This is 380 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: not coming from Academy. This is coming from me. The 381 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: state of recreational leagues is in varying states of disarray 382 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: right now. Travel ball is ripping this country apart. Far 383 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: more than politics ever will although I've got something in 384 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: the show later that's dividing us more than either entity. 385 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, travel ball or rec league, Academy's got you covered. 386 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: One stop shop for all that stuff if you can't 387 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: get there in person. Academy dot Com is a great resource. 388 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: And the reason that I mentioned that is because they 389 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: are the presenting partner of this show. They have been 390 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: for a while long time, and we really appreciate them. 391 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: They make sure we can put the show on YouTube, 392 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: we keep the show free, and they've got what you 393 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: need anyway, So check them out. Let's move on, Jesse. 394 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I told you never to let me talk twenty minutes 395 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: about the ACC. And what do you do tonight? I 396 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: lead the show with twenty minutes about the ACC. Okay, well, 397 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: let's just talk about hatred. There's nowhere to go but 398 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: down here, immunity. Let's talk about hatred. I asked a 399 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: question earlier today. It's one of the more healthy questions 400 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: you could ask if you understand college football, and that 401 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: is this, who are the most hated teams in college football? 402 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Not historically, I mean right now, who does America hate 403 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the most? I think it's Texas, so I'm gonna tell 404 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: you who my five are. I think Texas is the 405 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: most hated team in college football right now. Well, they 406 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: haven't won a national title, yeah, but they act like 407 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: they have. A lot of Texas folks came at me 408 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: today and they said, we're the most hated, like Texas 409 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: wants to be hated. But then they drop the whole 410 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: they hate us cause the anus. Look, guys, I got 411 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: no problem with Texas. Okay, I myself love going to Texas. 412 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Not everybody loves you. Guys though I may, but not 413 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: everyone loves you. But let me just inform you. Let 414 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: me be the one to break this news to you. 415 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: When a Texas fan says they hate us cause they 416 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: ain't us, Texas fan is half right there. They do 417 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: hate you. They despise you at a cellular level. I'm 418 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: not always sure it's because they ain't you. Some of 419 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: these folks hate you and would never want to trade 420 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: places with you. Now, look, look, I'm not speaking about myself, 421 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: but I talk to the other fan bases out there. Okay, 422 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: I talk to a gentleman on the street corner in Kyline, Texas. 423 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: I made several stops in the state of Texas, this 424 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: past week, and so I got a good healthy sense 425 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: of the flavor of disdain towards Texas and Texas fans 426 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: out there. And it's not always them hating you because 427 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: they can't be you. Sometimes it's just that they hate you. 428 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: And that is very, very evident to me across the country. 429 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: No one's indifferent on Texas, and that's before they've won 430 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: a national championship. So you should always long to be hated. 431 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: If they don't hate you, you're irrelevant. So it's a 432 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: compliment to Sarking Company that they're hated. Texas has always 433 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: carried themselves a certain way societally. They've always been prone 434 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: to look down on you. This is just accurate. If 435 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: you think you're better than someone, that's okay, just admit it. 436 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Texas fans admit it. At least respect that about you, guys. 437 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: But that causes a lot of folks to hate you. 438 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is, imagine if they win 439 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: a national title, Like imagine if they win the SEC. 440 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can get higher than number one, 441 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: but they could push for it. I think Alabama's still 442 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: up there. Nick Saban's gone, but a lot of the 443 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: hatred that you developed because of what Alabama has been 444 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. It really hasn't gone anywhere I go. 445 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I see Alabama in person a fair amount. It still 446 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: feels different, even with debor there, still feels different around 447 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: that program than most every other program out there. Now. 448 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: If they were to hang an eight and four season 449 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: this year, folks would love it because it would confirm 450 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: in their minds, Okay, we didn't have an Alabama problem. 451 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: We just had a saving problem, and Bama sucked before 452 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: he got there, and maybe now that he's gone, they'll 453 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: suck again. America collectively is rooting for this. It's up 454 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: to Alabama to dispel that. But if Bama hangs on 455 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: eleven and one this year, if they're playing in Atlanta, 456 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: if they're primed in the middle of the playoff pack, 457 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: well then that is a collective uh oh from the 458 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: rest of the country because uh oh, that Kaitlyn de 459 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Bor guy turns out he's the real deal. Does that 460 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: mean we're gonna have to deal with Alabama still be 461 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: in Alabama at which point everyone's tired of Alabama at 462 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: Bama fatigue a very real thing. But there's a difference 463 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I've noticed this. I'm gonna talk about it a little 464 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: bit later. There's a difference in Bama fatigue and like 465 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: the way people feel about Georgia, because I gotta be 466 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: real with you, I'm not ready to show that graphic yet, 467 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: that pole yet, but I don't think folks of you 468 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Georgia the same way. Maybe you just have to win 469 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. You just got to 470 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: beat folks over the head for like ten or fifteen years. 471 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's when they start to hate you. But I 472 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: feel like there's a different level of animosity that people 473 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: around the country feel and have felt towards Bama for 474 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: a long time now. Some of it is a healthy 475 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: amount of respect, but it's also disdained and they built 476 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: it up over a long time. So Obama is still 477 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: absolutely in this even if Saban's gone, Miami's there, and 478 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Miami hadn't won anything of note postseason wise in some 479 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: of your lifetimes. I remind everyone of this weekly because 480 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. We've got a massive eighteen to 481 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: thirty four year old audience watching this show. What is 482 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: Miami one of note? What kind of hardware have they 483 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: put in the trophy case since you've been really old 484 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: enough to appreciate what college football is not much. They're 485 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: still hated now in our thirty four to fifty year 486 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: old demographic. You were around to understand why Miami was 487 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: originally hated, and you can tell the younger generation stories, 488 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: or they could pop on the two part thirty for 489 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: thirty documentary series about Miami, which I encouraged because the 490 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: makers of that documentary did a really good job on it. 491 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: But I've talked about this before and I'll talk about 492 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: it once more. If you're of the younger generation, I 493 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you watching, but you cannot fully appreciate how hated 494 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Miami was. Miami was a culture shift that wasn't just 495 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: a vibe shift in college football. That was a culture 496 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: shift in America. There was a way winning college football 497 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: teams had looked forever, and then there was the way 498 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: Miami looked. And Miami did not look like the vintage 499 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Nebraska teams had looked or the modern day Nebraska teams looked. 500 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: So a lot of it was cultural, a lot of 501 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: it was racial, a lot I don't really care. He 502 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: mix it all into a pot, and then you put 503 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: icing of athletic competition over that it's okay to have 504 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: hatred me extent. As part of the reason I love sports, 505 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: part of the reason I love football is because it's 506 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: okay to do on the field to someone what you'd 507 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: get arrested for if you did it on the street. Well, 508 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: it's okay in the stands to feel a way about 509 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: your fellow maam that would otherwise be unacceptable if you 510 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: were feeling that way about him in the office place 511 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday afternoon. Miami personified that there were outlets. 512 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: If anything, Miami eighties nineties, Miami kind of served as 513 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: an outlet to where you blew off some steam. Maybe 514 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: your uncle Charlie was yelling some things at the TV 515 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: and with Dowie Alabama that you don't necessarily need to 516 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: be yelling at the post office on a Tuesday, But 517 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Miami let him do that. So God bless uncle Charlie. 518 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: He let it loose in the living room instead of 519 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: at the post office. Why because Warren Sap gave him 520 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: that ability. So thank you Warren Sap, Thank you Miami, 521 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Thank you Howard Stellenberger and Jimmy Johnson, etc. Well, then 522 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: they kind of faded for a little while, but Miami 523 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: folks didn't forget, and the echoes didn't stop heber rating, 524 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and every single time, here's what aggravated me. Here's what's 525 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: aggravated me on my upbringing as a college football fan. 526 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Every time Miami won a game against the top twenty 527 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: five team, some lazy journalist would write the headline is 528 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: the you back? Or even worse, is the swagger back? 529 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Because what I need is a sports writer from Saint Paul, 530 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota using the word swagger in their written lexicon. Well, no, 531 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: that U hasn't been back, at least in my lifetime. 532 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: So then Mario gets hired down there and it's one 533 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: of their own coming back home. And Miami folks started 534 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: to beat their chest because they were sure that they 535 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: had nailed the higher And then everyone who wasn't sure 536 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: they had took the total opposite approach, and we're gonna 537 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: hate on Miami. So what you've developed is you've got 538 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: a program that hasn't won anything of note in a 539 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: long time, that still polarizes the college football public. That 540 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: means they're a prime candidate to be one of the 541 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: most hated teams in college football. Still, every other team 542 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: I've got listed here is one or is like parenially 543 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: top five? Miami not necessarily yet, although they've increased their 544 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: win total every year on the Memorial. Talent rosters look 545 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: better every year on the Memorial. But I'll ask the 546 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: same thing about Miami that i'd ask about Texas. What 547 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: are y'all gonna do if they actually win? What are 548 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: y'all gonna do if they actually win in the playoff 549 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: or god forbid, they can tend for a national championship? 550 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: What would happen? I shudder to think Michigan surprisingly has 551 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: made this list. I don't think if the Stallion stuff 552 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened that they'd be on here. Just to 553 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: be honest, I think the way Michigan went about building 554 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: towards that run they made under Harball and being sort 555 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: of the last version of a great college football program 556 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: where they were never ranked top five in recruiting, but 557 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: they had freshmen that stuck together until they were sophomores, 558 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: stuck together until they were juniors and in seniors, and 559 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: they started and their rival, and then they capped it 560 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: off with a national championship win, and then the head 561 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: coach and the team kind of right off into the 562 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: sunset if it were just that, they wouldn't be hated 563 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: for that. Outside of Columbus Ohio State College, East Lansing, 564 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be hated for that. But then when you 565 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: heard the Connor Stallion stuff, whether there's validity to it 566 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: or not, I'm not even here to litigate that. The 567 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: fine folks at NCAA headquarters are doing that as we speak, 568 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll be talking about that more in 569 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: the coming months. But whether all of it's real or 570 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: all of its fantasy, people think what they think about it, 571 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: So your opinion is frozen. It's not gonna change about that. 572 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: I think enough people view it through lenses of skepticism. 573 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: They've come to hate Michigan and then Michigan, not that 574 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: they care that they're on this list, but they do 575 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: themselves no favors getting off this list because they do 576 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: exactly what I would do if I were a Michigan fan. 577 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: Just double barrel, middle finger. We don't care. We won 578 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: the title. Rest you can. You can put in the 579 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: blank anything that you want to. It's a very kid 580 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: friendly show. I want Charlie and Susie to be able 581 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: to listen with Dad on the way to work. Tomorrow morning. 582 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily finish the sentence the way that 583 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: our friends up in Michigan probably would finish the sentence. 584 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: But you get the point. So they're hated, but Ohio 585 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: State's also hated. So Ohio State made this list for me. 586 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: The reason I think enough people nationally hate Ohio State 587 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: is because they win, obviously, but also I gather through 588 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: my correspondence with my audience that everyone respected the run 589 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: they just made the playoff, but not everyone respected that 590 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: they lost two games and still got that shot. Like 591 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people viewed Ohio State as this huge 592 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: beneficiary of the new format, which they were. So you know, 593 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't hate them for that, but this isn't about me. 594 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: A lot of you do hate him for that. A 595 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: lot of you hate them because you hear a lot 596 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: of whining when things don't go their way. You say 597 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: the same thing about Bama. By the way, the most 598 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: consistent bits of feedback I got about Ohio State and 599 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: Bama where either they win a game or they got 600 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: fifteen excuses why they lost the game and booms to 601 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: defund it. By the way, my good Ohio State fans 602 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: and Bama fans complaining never heard it, never heard of it. 603 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I put Ohio State up there too. They 604 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: made a run, they won the title. You got folks 605 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: out there, and this is the part of the argument 606 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I really don't buy into. But there are a bunch 607 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: of folks who say I could win a title if 608 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: I just went and bought a class. Yeah, you couldn't. 609 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: And they didn't in that way, in the way that 610 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: it suggested they didn't. But here's who I didn't put 611 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: on the list. I didn't put Notre Dame up there. 612 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Notre Dame's one of the five most 613 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: hated teams in college football right now. I really don't. 614 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: Here's how I can prove that. Do you think that 615 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: America was pulling for Notre Dame or Ohio State in 616 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: the national title game like in a previous generation most 617 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: of the country would have pulled for anyone against Notre Dame. 618 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that hatred is there like it used 619 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: to be. They're not loved. Don't get me wrong. If 620 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: this was a top ten list, Notre Dame would be 621 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: on it. But I don't get the sense. Marcus Freeman's 622 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: a really likable coach. They're not like littered with future 623 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. They don't load up, they don't 624 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: like vastly overspend in nil to where you look at 625 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: it and you say, I hate that they're abusing the system. 626 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: There's none of that vitriol towards them. The whole independence 627 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: tag that they still have on them. It makes the 628 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: older folks a lot more pissed off than it does 629 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: the younger folks. They have not won a national championship 630 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: in this lifetime, so a lot of the reasons people 631 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: used to hate Notre Dame. They're there, but they're the 632 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: volumes turned way down on it. So I didn't put 633 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: them top five. I didn't put USC top five. But 634 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: if if they win this year, they'd enter the top five. 635 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: USC would be more hated than Michigan the moment Lincoln 636 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: Riley made the playoff. So USC's just waiting. They're in 637 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: the on deck circle. They're using the doughnut. Yeah, they're 638 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: still using the doughnut on the bat, they're taking their 639 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: practice swings. And if they go ten and two this 640 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: year they make the playoff, everything that you hated about 641 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: USC will be right back. I long for those days. 642 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: I long for it. Notable in their absence on this 643 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: list is Georgia. So you want to talk science, we're 644 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: a very pro science show. I'll prove it to you. 645 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: I ran a scientific poll earlier today because I was 646 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: starting to put my list together, and I thought, I 647 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: think george is the number one program in college football 648 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: right now. I got Kirby Smartest, the number one coach 649 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: in college football right now. Normally a couple of national championships. 650 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: Recently they win every year. That's a recipe for hatred. 651 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: Plus they're in the SEC. That's a recipe for hatred. 652 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: And yet I thought to myself self, is Georgia one 653 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: of the five most hated teams in college football? And 654 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: myself said, no, they're not. I don't know what it is. 655 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: They win a lot, they are just an alpha program. 656 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: They're ultra aggressive in every aspect of football. And yet 657 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: I don't think the hatred's there. So I ran a 658 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: poll and I said, do we feel like Georgia is 659 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: a top five most hated team right now? They tell 660 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: you the country is divided and then point towards politics. No, No, 661 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: the political world pales in comparison to the divide we 662 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: have on the Georgia hatred question. So, as of airtime 663 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: I put this poll out, does Georgia feel like a 664 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: top five most hated team right now? It's fifty one 665 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: point four to forty eight point six yes to no. 666 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: We got nearly seven thousand votes on that thing, and 667 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: it was in the replies. By the way, I don't 668 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: even know how people found it, but seven thousand of 669 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: you voted on this fifty one to forty nine basically yes, no. 670 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: So the country's totally divided. Well point being, I think 671 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: the other ones. If I put it out there, Jesse 672 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: and Colin, I think sixty plus percent would say yes 673 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: on Texas, Yes on Bama, Michigan or Ohio state fifty 674 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: five or higher. I think Miami would be up there. Georgia, 675 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: I just don't guess. Congratulations maybe or maybe this is 676 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: a huge slight. This is like the version of a 677 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: couple of years ago where Kirby convinced half his locker 678 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: room someone picked him to go seven to five. Maybe 679 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: he needs to tell them they think you're more cute, 680 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: they think you guys are more adorable than hateable. Maybe 681 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: that's what Georgia needs to go on a run this year. 682 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm with the fifty one percent crowd. 683 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they're one of the five most hated 684 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: teams right now. That's me and that's science you're arguing with. 685 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: So if you disagree, you're disagreeing with me and science. 686 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: You can do one. I don't recommend doing both. Let's 687 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: move on. I have been slandered, and it came in 688 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: the form of a question slash statement. I think this 689 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: is where we are. Yes, that's where we are. Okay, 690 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: John in beautiful Seattle, Washington hit me. He said, I've 691 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: always defended you, but I've been catching up on past 692 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: shows and I heard you compare arch Manning to Temp Tebow. 693 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: How am I supposed to defend this? You're not, John, 694 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: because if I ever compared arch Manning to Temp Tebow 695 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: in terms of on field performance or accomplishment, you ought 696 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: to find a new show to watch. Plenty of good 697 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: ones out there. You don't need to be wasting your 698 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: time on a show that's comparing Arch Manning to Temp Tebow, 699 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: because that would, of course be nonsense, that would be foolishness. 700 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: I do have good news. I didn't do it. It 701 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: wasn't me. If there's anything I want you to take 702 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: from this show tonight, it's that it wasn't me. It 703 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: wasn't me, John, what we did the other day, and 704 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: what I think you heard part of I think there 705 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: may have been some ambient noise in the background that 706 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: distracted you. You're prerogative not hating on you. Remember the 707 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: rule around you, Remember me Ma's golden rule. Smart people 708 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: do say casual things, John, Casual people rarely say smart things. 709 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: So our audience from Seattle is always among the brightest 710 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: of any major metropolitan city that we get feedback from. 711 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: So I certainly assume that you're a smart guy. John. 712 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: That just happened to say a casual thing. Here's what 713 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: happened the other day. What happened was someone asked us 714 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: if Arch Manning is going to be overrated, overhyped, and 715 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: I said, here we go. Let's address it on the 716 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: show because it struck me the same way that the 717 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: t Bau recruitment and the Tebow phenomenon struck me back 718 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: in the day. Not in the sense that they've accomplished 719 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: the same thing on the field. Arch hasn't played. He's 720 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: hardly played. Tebo comes out of high school. If you 721 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: weren't around for this. It was wild. This was when 722 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: like a young, young version of me first started really 723 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: falling in love with recruiting. Was like the Tebow recruitment. 724 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: The Tebow recruitment was a recruitment that captivated the non 725 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: recruiting fan. To give you an idea of how big 726 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: a deal it was. So he's from nice high school, 727 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: he's a five star quarterback, his high school games are 728 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: being broadcast on TV when that wasn't a popular thing 729 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: to have happened. And he's down to Florida or Alabama. 730 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: One of the biggest what ifs in the history of 731 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: mankind is what if Tebow commits to Alabama. Mike Schuler 732 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: probably wins enough to where he doesn't get fired. Sabin 733 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: probably still wants to leave the NFL after a couple 734 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: of years. Where does he go? He didn't go to Alabama, 735 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: so where does he go? So anyway, it didn't happen 736 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: that way. Tebo commits to Urban Meyer. He ends up 737 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: being everything and then some that you could have ever expected. However, 738 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of folks viewed him as a villain. Folks 739 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't like Tim Tebow. And I said on the show 740 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: the other day, the same thing I said when the 741 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: guy asked me if I thought arch Manning was being overhyped, 742 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: I said, what are you hating on arch Manning for? 743 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: Because the spirit of the question I got asked was 744 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: like anger towards arch Manning. I don't like arch Manning. 745 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: He's being overhyped. Well, you may be half right there. 746 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: He may be overhyped. He hadn't done anything yet. But 747 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: maybe he's a total bust and he was overhyped. How's 748 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: that his fault? He's not the one who hyped himself. 749 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: Arch Manning hasn't written a single headline about himself. And 750 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: I used to say the same thing about Tebow because 751 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: I grew up in Georgia, so obviously Tebo's playing for Florida, 752 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: so people already root against Florida in my home state, 753 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: and so they really hated Tebow. But a lot of 754 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: my buddies started saying, I hate Tebow, not I hate Florida, 755 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you hate him for? Oh, 756 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: because he's so overhyped? Well, who's hyping him? Go hate 757 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: on the guys who write for the newspaper in Jacksonville. 758 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: Go hate on the guys at ESPN. They're the ones 759 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: hyping him was not voting himself First Team All American. 760 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: TIBO didn't vote himself Heisman. TBO never wrote a headline 761 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: about himself. Arch Manning's the same way now here is 762 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: here's the difference, A couple of differences. I don't think 763 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: anyone can command the kind of attention that Tebou did. Again, 764 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: just like a generation prior to that, couple of generations 765 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: prior to that, you had TV shows in the seventies. 766 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: This is just fascinating. If you're nineteen years old on 767 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: the campus of Iowa right now and you want to 768 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: blow your mind, go look at the viewership. Some of 769 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: the shows in the seventies used to do a random 770 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: show like mash some of the episodes of Dallas. Go 771 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: look at how many people watched the shows. Tens of millions, 772 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: thirty million people, forty million people, not collectively over a season. 773 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: They're watching that one episode on that one night. The 774 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: reason is because there wasn't anything else to watch. Society 775 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: wasn't fragmented. You didn't have Internet, there was no social media. 776 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: So Tebo comes along, and even though yes you do 777 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: have Internet, social media is still in its very infancy 778 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: and relative to today, it was a lot easier for the 779 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: entire college football public or the entire sporting public to 780 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: focus its gaze on one thing that doesn't happen so 781 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: much anymore. Just like in the world of TV, if 782 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: CBS puts a show on in prime time and it 783 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: gets eight million viewers, that's an insanely huge number. There 784 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: were shows that would have been airing that got five 785 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: times that viewership back in the day. And I feel 786 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: the same way about arch Manning. I don't think the 787 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: hysteria around arch Manning, even at its peak whenever that is, 788 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: will match what tebo mania was. But relative to today's standards, yeah, 789 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: it could get ridiculous, but it's not his fault. So 790 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: that was the comparison that I did between Manning and Tebow, 791 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: and then one other thing that I hope doesn't happen, 792 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: but it could happen. Tebow was rated five stars, tibo 793 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: is the number one player in the country. But he 794 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: panned out. He validated all that. He ended up being 795 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: the best player in the country. He won the Heisman Trophy, 796 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: won national championship, so he was everything he was expected 797 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: to be, and he was expected to be a lot 798 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: We don't know how the story ends with arch Manning. 799 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: You don't know if he's going to end up being anything. 800 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: He'll be the starting quarterback of Texas this year, He'll 801 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: be putting the best position anyone in the country has 802 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 1: put in, but he still got it to do. Tibo 803 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: fulfilled on the hype, so no one could really call 804 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: him a bust. But if arch Manning doesn't become the 805 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: best player in the country, you'll have people call him 806 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: a bust. And this is really what drives me crazy 807 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: about rankings, culture, headline, culture, whatever. If I rank arch 808 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: Manning as the number one player in the country, if 809 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: I vote him First Team All American, if I create 810 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: the hype and he doesn't live up to it, that's 811 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: not on him, that's on me. But you never see that, 812 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: do you. You never see someone blame themselves or call 813 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: themselves an idiot. It's a lot easier for somebody, whether 814 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: it be on the Internet or whether it be in 815 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: a podcast or on TV or whatnot. It's a lot 816 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: easier for him to hype a guy up he doesn't 817 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: fulfill their expectation level, and instead of calling themselves idiots 818 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: and saying I'm stupid, for over hyping him. You just 819 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: trashed the kid arch Manning. What a bust? He was 820 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: so overhyped? Well, who hyped him a bust? According to what? So? Yeah, 821 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: that is what I'll be watching with arch Manning. Let's 822 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: move along. Another controversy here. We have another controversy on 823 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: our hands. Not really because this is pretty easy to 824 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: see through, but Colin, so I want you to keep 825 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: this on the screen here. Okay, don't worry. If you're 826 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: listening on podcasts, I'll explain it after I take a 827 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: jug of Public's water. This is the good stuff right here. 828 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: We've had this probably about three times in the history 829 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: of the show. We've had to go down this road. 830 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: I got to do it again. So things got sideways 831 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: with me and one of you. Today one of our 832 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: age old debates on the show kind of resurfaced, and 833 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: it was about star ratings. So you know, in college 834 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: football recruiting, we have followed star ratings and star rankings 835 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: and class rankings forever. I love it. It's highly addictive. 836 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: It's what first drew me to college football. Believe it 837 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: or not. I was drawn to the recruiting aspect of 838 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: it almost as much as I was the on the 839 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: field play. So I was talking about some stuff today 840 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: and one of you came at me and you were 841 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: saying a recruiting rankings or a total grift. They're overrated, 842 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: they're not what they claim to be. And I said, 843 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: why is that? Why do you say that. Here's how 844 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: the person responded. He said, you don't pay attention. I 845 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: coached high school. I've got some kids in the pros. 846 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: A player could be ranked eighty seven, but then a 847 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: certain school shows interest or makes an offer in the ranking, 848 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: even in February, no games being played, nothing else changes. 849 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: It goes from eighty seven to ninety five, and the 850 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: inverse happens. He meant to say inverse, I assume a 851 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: player maybe ninety three, but then he signs with the 852 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: school not paying the grifters, and the score drops immediately. 853 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: So if you pay to go to the camps, give 854 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: the free advertising, your score goes up. The high school 855 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: rating system is one big grift. A lot of anecdotal 856 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: evidence got presented there, so it's very easy to deliver that. 857 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: It's very easy to say, hey, I knew of a 858 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: kid one time who was two stars and he was 859 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. Played twelve years in the league, 860 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,959 Speaker 1: three different teams. He's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 861 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: That proves recruiting rankings were a joke. No, it does, 862 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: just like if a five star doesn't pan out, it 863 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: also doesn't prove anything other than recruiting rankings aren't infallible. 864 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, they never claim to be. You 865 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: point out those anecdotal examples, and all you prove is 866 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: the system is imperfect, but it never claimed to be. 867 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: In fact, a recruiting star ranking never even claimed to 868 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: be the entire picture on a player. A recruiting ranking 869 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: is basically a raw talent based measurement, the best quantifiable 870 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: thing you can put on a kid at a time. 871 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: It's the best measure we have in our society of 872 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to gauge how good a kid is, how he projects. 873 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: It's not imperfect, you know how. I know that. In 874 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: this building that I do this show out of, it's 875 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: also the home of twenty four to seven sports, So 876 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: I am CO. I like I share a building with 877 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: those guys. I talk to them about this stuff. They're 878 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: the last ones to say, yeah, we nail every single 879 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: every single recruitment. Take it to the bank. But I'll 880 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: tell you what. They don't do what that guy said, 881 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: they don't do that. That's not how it works. But 882 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to take my word for it. I 883 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: would just say, if you want to present evidence to 884 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: the contrary, don't give me anecdotal examples. Bring me clusters, like, 885 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: bring me huge batches of evidence, because if what you're 886 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: saying is true and the entire thing is a joke, 887 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: it'll be pretty easy to see through. The evidence will 888 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: be pretty easy to find. So Colin, do me a favor. 889 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: Throw up the graphic one more time, Throw up the 890 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: question one more time. My bad, not that one. Keep 891 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: this one up, Keep this one up. That's fine. So 892 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: if let's just say, for the sake of argument, the 893 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: whole recruiting process was a sham, and it was just 894 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: an industry built to prop up certain schools or built 895 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: to prop up certain camps, and you know, it was 896 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: really really corrupted, like the seven on seven scene is 897 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: viewed as corrupted. Let's say the recruiting industry was really that, 898 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: and kids were being given fifth stars for everything other 899 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: than how good they were, or they were being denied 900 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: their fourth or fifth star because they didn't play the game, 901 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: so to speak. Well, if that was the case, if 902 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: the recruiting star ranking process was really corrupted on the 903 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: front end, you would know it on the back end, 904 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: because while you can sit here even though you're wrong, 905 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: you can sit here and have the opinion that all 906 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: those guys at twenty four to seven sports, when they 907 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: assign those star rankings, they're on the take. That's just 908 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: a grift. It's built to prop up an industry that's 909 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: built to serve one brand at the expense of another, 910 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: and the kids are just the victims caught in the middle. 911 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: You can believe that, but I doubt you believe NFL 912 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: scouts and general managers are caught up in it too. 913 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: I assume you look at those guys, and while they're 914 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: not infallible either, you probably look at the NFL process 915 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: and say, now, those guys their job is to get 916 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: it right, and they got to have the best talent 917 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: evaluators in the world tasked with getting it right, or 918 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: they know they're going to lose their job, they're gonna 919 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: get fired. Do you at least think that about the 920 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: NFL side of it. Okay, So then we can reasonably 921 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: assume that if there's a lot of corruption on the 922 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,479 Speaker 1: front end the high school star rating system. In other words, 923 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: it'll be exposed eventually. With that in mind, I invite 924 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: you to look at your screen right now. Keep in 925 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,439 Speaker 1: mind four star, five star. The allegation is it doesn't 926 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: really mean anything. It's all politics. The last three NFL drafts, 927 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: sixty five of ninety six first round picks were former 928 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,959 Speaker 1: Blue Chippers, former four and five star players. Now here's 929 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: how wild that is. How wild that is is if 930 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: you go back to the twenty twenty class, you know, 931 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: the last full recruiting class before last year's draft, if 932 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,919 Speaker 1: you were a five star recruit, you ended up being 933 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: nine times more likely to go first round than a 934 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: four star recruit. If you were a five star recruit, 935 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: you were eighty five times more likely to go first 936 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: round than a three star recruit. And that's despite the 937 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: fact that they're only thirty two of them in each class. 938 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: So either the NFL's in on the grift too, or 939 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: it's not really a grift. These guys may just halfway 940 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: know what they're looking at and they may just want 941 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: to get it right. I know, because I know who 942 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: we're talking about. I have the unfair advantage of knowing 943 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: these dudes personally, and trust me, it would bring me 944 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: great joy to call them out on air if they 945 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: were corrupted. But they're not. I guess Unfortunately they're not. 946 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: Old Tom Lloyd, Old Cooper, Petagona, Andrew Ivans, all the 947 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: guys out on the West Coast. We got a bunch 948 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: of them. I don't want to start naming names because 949 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: I forget them. I regret to inform you. They're pretty 950 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: stand up dudes. And if if they weren't, the back 951 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: end would expose them immunity to that all the NFL 952 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 1: Draft would expose it instead. Here's what the NFL draft 953 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: is telling us. Recruiting rankings have never been more deadly 954 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: accurate than they are. Now. That's not to say they're perfect. 955 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: They'll never be perfect. Here's the other thing you can't 956 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: account for. This is why you got to take a 957 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: recruiting ranking for what it is, which is a raw 958 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: talent based measurement of a guy. Well, what if I 959 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: blow up as a sophomore in college. What if my 960 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: physical development just comes later? I was probably a two 961 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: star coming out of high school. The old JJ Watt theory. 962 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: JJ Watt goes on to be one of the best 963 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: of all time. He wasn't five stars coming out of 964 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: high school. Did the recruiting industry with on him? No, 965 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't JJ watt at that point. Or on the 966 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: other hand, Denver Harris's former five star kid comes out 967 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: of high school, doesn't have his head on straight, completely 968 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: flames out at the college level. Is that an evaluation with? No, 969 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: These guys don't get players on a psychiatric couch like, 970 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: they don't get to do brain scans on them. They 971 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: don't know what they are ethically or morally. They have 972 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: no idea what their injury future may be. So a 973 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: recruiting ranking is basically three fifths maybe four fifths of 974 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: what it's ultimately gonna take to pan out in college. 975 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: And if you take it for that, then you'll see, 976 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm this piece of paper right here. You brought anecdotal examples, man, 977 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: I got mountains of evidence to the contrary that says 978 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: recruiting rankings have never been more accurate. It's never been 979 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: a more refined process than it is now. That's not 980 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: as fun. You know, if you want to go conspiratorial, 981 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna wet your whistle as much. As 982 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 1: the alternative, but it's true. It's true as is Quick Trip. 983 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: I was at a Quick Trip in Palestine, Texas yesterday, 984 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: and I was gonna take my usual picture outside, but 985 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: they were like forty five to fifty mile an hour 986 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: wins and there was dust in the air everywhere, and honestly, 987 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was going to do service to 988 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: the otherwise picturesque town of Palestine, Texas, So I didn't 989 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: take the picture. But you can rest assure if I 990 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: was out in Texas, the home of a certain other 991 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: unmentionable convenience store chain, I was finding my way to 992 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: Quick Trip. They are the exclusive fuel provider for the show. 993 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: They've been fueling us all spring as we've been on 994 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: the road, and we have several more stops coming up 995 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: in the Pate State Speaker series. Not to mention we 996 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: got an entire fall tour coming up. But we appreciate 997 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: Quick Trip, appreciate them immensely. Let's move on since we're 998 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: already out in that part of the country. I didn't 999 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: want to hit you with this right quick. This has 1000 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 1: been a very popular segment we've been doing. We've been 1001 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: looking at the schedules for all the conferences because we 1002 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: already have our strength of schedule ratings in house. We 1003 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: got them done. We pressed crunch and it's done. We 1004 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,240 Speaker 1: got some winners and losers here. Like in the Big Twelve, 1005 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: it's a wildlife landscape in the conference because we were 1006 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: trying not to compare them to the SEC Like. No, 1007 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: the average strength of schedule in the Big Twelve is 1008 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: not comparable to that of Florida or Oklahoma. But that's 1009 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: okay because it can still be a highly entertaining conference. 1010 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 1: You just you have to take it for what it is. 1011 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: There's no Big Twelve team in the top twenty playoff 1012 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: odds at FanDuel right now, but they're all virtually equal. 1013 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: So that makes for a highly entertaining conference. And in 1014 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: terms of strength of schedule, it makes it almost impossible 1015 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: to separate these teams, but we try it anyway. So 1016 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: here's what I will tell you. We think Brigham Young 1017 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: has the easiest schedule and power for this year. That's 1018 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: what we have right now. We can adjust this, but 1019 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: it's not gonna adjust much. Brigham Young has got a 1020 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: great draw this year. They don't play a single Tier 1021 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: one opponent, they don't play a single Tier two opponent. 1022 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: They only play two Tier three opponents. There is no 1023 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: back to back road game on their schedule. Texas texts 1024 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: their toughest game I think, and Texas Tech will be 1025 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: playing them as their sixth consecutive game. Brigham Young will 1026 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: be off a bye, so they got a plus six 1027 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 1: game rest advantage there. So it's great draw. Great draw 1028 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: for Brigham Young, I think. Also Texas techa winner. Even 1029 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: though I just mentioned that scheduling spot. They don't play 1030 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: a single Tier one team. They got five games between 1031 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: Tier two and Tier four, but they play seven games 1032 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: against teams we have rated tier five or lower. To 1033 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: give you an idea of the quality of team we're 1034 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: talking about there. The worst two teams in the SEC 1035 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: are Tier five. Texas Tech plays seven games against teams 1036 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: that caliber or worse in a preseason rating. They also, 1037 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: if you'll look at the very end of their schedule, 1038 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: if Texas Tech is in the Big twelve title game, 1039 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: which means you know they're in the playoff picture. But 1040 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: if they're in the Big twelve title game, look at 1041 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: what they'd have. They have a bye in West Virginia, 1042 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: then the conference title game. They've got the latest buy 1043 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: in the conference. I think one other team has a 1044 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: buy the second to last week of the season. Huge 1045 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: advantage if you can make it to the conference title game. 1046 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: One of the losers in the Big Twelve scheduling wise, 1047 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: I think is TCU. A lot of it has to 1048 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: do with out of conference though, So TCU plays Bill Belichick. 1049 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: They go to North Carolina to open the season. They 1050 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: also play SMU out of conference. They play three of 1051 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,959 Speaker 1: the top five teams in the Big Twelve in terms 1052 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: of odds on the road, so they sixty percent of 1053 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: those teams that are the top of the conference and 1054 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 1: the FanDuel odds, they play them on the road. They've 1055 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: got an early buye too. They play one game and 1056 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: then they got a buy which is not ideal, and 1057 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,959 Speaker 1: then they play seven straight games after that. I also 1058 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: think one of the other scheduling losers is Baylor, but 1059 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: that's really cause of out of conference. Baylor opens against Auburn. 1060 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: It's a really random game. They play them at home. 1061 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: Auburn open their season in Waco, Texas. Woms to the 1062 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: funk it right. They play Auburn, then they go to SMU, 1063 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: and that's a couple of big time out of conference games. Now. 1064 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: The good news is that doesn't matter in conference play 1065 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: two and zero zero to two, it doesn't matter. But 1066 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: they do face the top two teams in the Big 1067 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: Twelve as well, and they open with a six game stretch, 1068 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: So that's kind of It depends on what your preference is. 1069 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: Some teams want to play a bulk of their games 1070 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: together early because they're the healthiest they'll be. So yeah, 1071 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: there's some winners and losers there in the Big Twelve. 1072 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: Let's move it along. They're watching us in Point Pleasant, 1073 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: West Virginia, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Hattiesburg, Mississippi. By the way, our 1074 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: friends out in Tulsa. I I haven't gone out on 1075 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: the road storm chasing yet this year. I think that 1076 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: may change next week. The state legislature in Oklahoma is 1077 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: humiliating themselves right now over a storm chasing bill. Local 1078 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: news in and especially the Oklahoma City Metro is humiliating 1079 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: themselves right now over a storm chasing bill. And I 1080 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: don't want to get into the particulars because this is 1081 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: a college football show, but I am a stormchaser by hobby, 1082 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and so I don't know what kind of weight this 1083 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: microphone has here in the Oklahoma political scene, and I 1084 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: don't ever want to use it that way, but my goodness, 1085 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: but how in the world has storm chasing become a 1086 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: political issue in Oklahoma? So just want to say I'm 1087 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: keeping both eyes on it. Don't make us come out there. 1088 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Come on now, let's get things straight. Florida and Billy 1089 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Napier on the radar right now, not the Doppler, just 1090 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: the normal. Kenneth hit me up from Concord, New Hampshire, 1091 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: no less, second person from New Hampshire I've talked to today. 1092 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 1: What a record, he said. How much of a chance 1093 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: does Florida have at winning the SEC or making the 1094 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: playoffs in twenty twenty five? A decent chance. We know 1095 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: the story about the schedule? Do we know the story? 1096 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: They had the number one strength of schedule in the 1097 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: country last year. It doesn't change much. They got the 1098 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 1: number two strength of schedule in the country this year. 1099 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: If you want a very very quick, just one liner 1100 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: anecdote for how terrible Florida got shafted again in strength 1101 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: to schedule. If you look at the odds to win 1102 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: a national title at FanDuel right now, Florida plays seven 1103 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: of the top fourteen teams. The casuals will tell you, eh, 1104 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: you are what your record says you are. A win's 1105 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: a win, a loss is a loss. Garbage. You need 1106 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: to go sit by the garbage. If you're looking at 1107 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Brigham Young's schedule and you're looking at Florida's schedule and 1108 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: you think they're playing the same sport, they're not. There's 1109 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 1: uncertainty everywhere at quarterback in the SEC though. Now that's 1110 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the good news for Florida because they have certainty. So 1111 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: if DJ Lagway just goes off, they may have the 1112 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the conference. Who are we talking about 1113 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: there Sellers at South Carolina, nus Meyer at LSU. Outside 1114 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: of that, where's the certainty. There isn't any So maybe, 1115 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe, just maybe DJ Lagway becomes a bona 1116 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: fide national star this year and you got the EDGIC 1117 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: quarterback because I'll tell you this, there is not roster 1118 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: disadvantage at Florida anymore. They have. Here are all the 1119 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: reasons I like Florida. So there are a ton of 1120 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: reasons to like Florida coming into this year. The schedule sucks, 1121 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: but that offensive line returns five thousand snaps from four starters. 1122 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Dj Lagway last year, blows up at quarterback true freshman 1123 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Jaden Bought blows up at running back true freshman. I 1124 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: got a really dependable offensive line. I got a dependable 1125 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: ground game. I've got an emerging star at quarterback. I 1126 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: got three straight top fifteen recruiting classes and three straight 1127 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: top twenty portal classes that are baked in that roster. 1128 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,479 Speaker 1: I got twenty different underclassmen coming back for me who 1129 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: played two hundred plus snaps last year. That was the 1130 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: second most in FBS. I got a ton of experience. 1131 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Now I've got four starters back in the secondary. I 1132 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: got the chance to be elite at the linebacker position. 1133 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot to like. If I did nothing more 1134 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: then give Florida Tennessee schedule, Florida would be one of 1135 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: the favorites to win this conference the upcoming year. I 1136 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: am telling you that you're looking at the odds right now. 1137 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, Colin is showing you the 1138 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: FanDuel odds right now. That is a huge, huge asterisk 1139 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: by Florida. They're plus thirty three hundred two four six eight. 1140 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: They've got the tenth best odds to win the conference. 1141 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: That is a product of scheduling. That is a product 1142 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: of scheduling, because that is one of the higher upside 1143 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: teams in college football. This year. There are no guarantees. 1144 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: They're not even through spring practice yet, they're no guarantees. 1145 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: But Napier it looked for all the world like he 1146 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: was gonna lose his job in the middle of last year, 1147 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: and he didn't, and they finished hot, and he messed 1148 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: around and bought himself enough time down there to where 1149 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: now they get to go into a season and it 1150 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they're disadvantaged anymore. The only disadvantage is 1151 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: an external factor, and that's the schedule. But the stuff 1152 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: they can control, it has not felt in quite a 1153 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: while like Florida has that as in order as it 1154 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: feels like they have it right now. That's why we'll 1155 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: play the games this fall. We showed you those odds. 1156 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: You know where you can get those? Does anyone know 1157 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: you can get them at FanDuel. FanDuel been doing some 1158 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: big things, big things. Our neighbors down the road, Taylor Luwan, 1159 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Will Compton, huge deal with FanDuel. 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So if you have psych already, 1194 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: then lay out and let someone else have a term. 1195 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: But as I said for the nineteenth time this month, 1196 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: as you know, we got a really big sort of 1197 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 1: high school college age audience, like a listenership and a 1198 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: viewer base, and occasionally you guys will reach out for 1199 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: some feedback, some advice. So I had one of you. 1200 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read what he wrote out paraphrasing, and 1201 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: he said he's kind of being taken advantage of at work. 1202 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: He's being paid too little to do too much. Should 1203 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: he quit? Should he quit? Now? The reason I'm reading 1204 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: this on airs because I know fifty million of you 1205 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 1: are facing the same situation right now. So here's some 1206 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: friendly advice from someone who's been there. Firstly, don't burn 1207 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a bridge. It sounds so great. Everyone glorifies these stories 1208 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: of torching the barn on their way out, and you notice, 1209 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: normally it's not the most successful people you've ever been 1210 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: around telling those stories. The ones who are successful in 1211 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: the end are the ones who may very well have 1212 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: needed a relationship later down the road that most other 1213 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: people in their position would have burned. So yeah, it's 1214 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: great to tell someone what you think of and then 1215 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: walk out the door. You just never can fully appreciate 1216 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: how small the world is when you're twenty years old, 1217 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: which is how old this person is who just wrote 1218 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: this to me. So don't burn the bridge, no matter 1219 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: how hard it is, no matter how bad it is 1220 01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: right now, don't burn the bridge. Second second thing I 1221 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: would say is the most valuable commodities on your time 1222 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 1: or on your side, I guess time is on your side. 1223 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: So I know it sucks knowing that you're twenty years 1224 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: old and you have your whole life ahead of you. 1225 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: God willing doesn't change the fact that if it's three 1226 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: point thirty on a Wednesday afternoon and you are really, 1227 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: really down, it doesn't make you feel better. I know 1228 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: it doesn't. But in the grand scheme of things, in 1229 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the drive home, just ask yourself, would you rather be 1230 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 1: at a decent job and be fifty nine years old 1231 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: or would you rather be a terrible job and be 1232 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: twenty years old? Even the fifty nine year old dude 1233 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,799 Speaker 1: would answer that for you. So yes, it's not great now. 1234 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 1: It's not great now. You're not the first person to 1235 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: be in that position. You won't be the last person. 1236 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: I'll say this because I didn't get the specifics on this. 1237 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: If you're being taken advantage of to a agree that 1238 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 1: it's illegal, address it. Address it, so, very very very 1239 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: clear line of demarcation here lying in the sand. We 1240 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: need to draw it. If anyone is putting you in 1241 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 1: harm's way, if anyone's doing something illegal to you, this 1242 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: is a moot point, Okay. At that point, call the 1243 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: cops or Osha or whoever you need to call. But 1244 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 1: if you're just getting the short end of the stick, 1245 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: if you're getting a raw deal right now, yeah, you're 1246 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: being taken advantage of. So here's a little newsflash. Not 1247 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: everyone will tell you this. Maybe your college professors won't. 1248 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe even your friends or family won't. I will 1249 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: though it's gonna happen. You're gonna get taken advantage of. 1250 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 1: It's almost an inevitability in the workplace. It doesn't make 1251 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,719 Speaker 1: it right or wrong. It probably does make it wrong, 1252 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: but it is a thing. It's happened to me. I 1253 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 1: got two dudes sitting in this room over here right 1254 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: now that don't have a microphone in front of them. 1255 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: I promise you it's happened to them. It happens to 1256 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: a lot of folks who have watched the show. Are 1257 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 1: watching this show, you're getting taken advantage of. Here's the 1258 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: question that I will leave you with. Are you taking 1259 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: it advantage of them? Because in this circumstance, I encourage it. 1260 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Now Here is where I can apply practical wisdom because 1261 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: I've lived this. I was working in local news. I 1262 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: was down in Columbus, Georgia. I was making twenty four 1263 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a year. It wasn't enough to pay 1264 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: my rent. It wasn't enough to feed myself like I 1265 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: needed financial assistance. I couldn't even sustain on my salary. 1266 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: Not to mention, the workload that was being asked of 1267 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: me was egregious. And the world of local media right now, 1268 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: there is a situation where some local news outlets have 1269 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: to shut down because they're purchased by other conglomerates. And 1270 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: in the aggregate, what happens is you may be working 1271 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: in Columbus, Georgia, but the ownership group that owns your 1272 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: station also purchased a station in Lake Charles, Louisiana. Well, 1273 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: the boss comes to you one day and says, hey, 1274 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: I need you to do a sports cast every night 1275 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 1: for Lake Charles two. I'm not going to pay you 1276 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 1: any more money. I just need you to do that. 1277 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,719 Speaker 1: That's being taken advantage of I knew it at the time, 1278 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: So you can either sulk or you can know where 1279 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: you want to go. The one thing I did have 1280 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: at that point was a vision. I did have kind 1281 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: of a dream of what I wanted to do. So 1282 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I look around and I say, well, let's see, I'm 1283 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: in a pretty sucky position right now, but I also 1284 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: know where I want to go. How do I take 1285 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: advantage of this? I'm sitting in a TV studio every night. 1286 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: I want to ultimately host my own college football show. 1287 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 1: I want to have my own college football channel. How 1288 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 1: about launch one on YouTube and then work a deal 1289 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: out with this TV station somehow, or I can start that. 1290 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: I can use the equipment here, and I can use 1291 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: the infrastructure in place here. That's exactly what we did. 1292 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: That's how this show came to be is we launched 1293 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 1: the thing in twenty eighteen down there, and we started 1294 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: doing it on YouTube. And you know, people were already 1295 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: doing videos on you, but no one was doing it 1296 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: emanating from an actual TV studio. But I was because 1297 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I took advantage of the station that I was at, 1298 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: because they were taking advantage of me, and so I 1299 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: just made it reciprocal. No hard feelings. I don't have 1300 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: a bit of animosity. In fact, I still talk to 1301 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the people, specifically from the ownership group 1302 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: down there. I understood how the game was played. So 1303 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 1: wherever you are right now, where do you want to go? 1304 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Who do you want to be? Like? What's your talent, 1305 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: what's your passion? Where do they overlap? How can you 1306 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: take advantage of the situation. The answer could be just quit, 1307 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 1: That could be the answer. Maybe you don't have the 1308 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 1: option to quit right now. How do you take advantage 1309 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: of it? That's the question you ought to be asking yourself. 1310 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Not am I being taken advantage of? Of course you 1311 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: are a billion people before you have you're a billion 1312 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 1: in one. But you can still make a winner out 1313 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 1: of the situation. So develop the vision, take advantage while 1314 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: you're being taken advantage of. That's our show tonight. We 1315 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you so much. We will be back 1316 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Sonday night tomorrow morning. So Friday morning, we're gonna drop 1317 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: the ret lashly conversation. Now, I know what you're thinking, 1318 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm a Syracuse fan. 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