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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings.

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Speaker 2: Network, the John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annik

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that boss to next big.

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Speaker 5: Job there, Coyctufia prec fers, hont.

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Speaker 1: Rock Sucker.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: That's all.

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Speaker 3: And this one right here, my father is wors hotter

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Speaker 3: than anybody.

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Speaker 1: So this Melly's dedicated to my father.

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Speaker 4: And designa come through that.

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Speaker 7: In pay per view weekend on the anakid Florent Podcast

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Speaker 7: Monday November thirteenth, twenty twenty three, Episode four forty nine

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Speaker 7: of The Anaki Florent Podcast, presented by Draft. So the

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Speaker 7: reason Kenny's name is not first on the show is

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Speaker 7: because my last name begins an and that's the same

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Speaker 7: way that the word and begins. So it would be

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Speaker 7: the Florian and Anti podcast, and it just doesn't sound

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Speaker 7: as good. But as some of our day one ers know,

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Speaker 7: Kevin Ioli from Yahoo, the great longtime combat sports journalist,

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Speaker 7: was on episode three. I think yeah, maybe even episode one,

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Speaker 7: but I think it was episode three back in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 7: I'm not mistaken, and we welcomed him in and he

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Speaker 7: wondered aloud as to why Kenny's name was not first

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Speaker 7: as a at that point in time, three time UFC

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Speaker 7: world title challenger, And it really is because the word

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Speaker 7: and an anecdote jibe all that well together.

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Speaker 1: But great to be back with you.

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Speaker 7: Nothing quite like a week on the Antik and Florian

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Speaker 7: podcast in which we recap a UFC pay per view,

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Speaker 7: of which there are like fourteen nowadays per year, which

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Speaker 7: is very exciting.

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Speaker 8: I'm in my son's bedroom. Can flow.

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Speaker 7: We have an electrician here, We have our studio guy

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Speaker 7: from Media's owned, Mike Jones in the building. Shout out,

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Speaker 7: Mike Jones. If you can hear me through these thin,

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Speaker 7: cheap walls here. You probably got thick walls in Charlotte,

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Speaker 7: North Carolina. Hey, can I tell the listeners it's good

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Speaker 7: to see you. By the way, it's great to see

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Speaker 7: you too, man. So can I tell people who you

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Speaker 7: ran into in your neighborhood the other day? Or do

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Speaker 7: you I'm going to hold that back.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna tell I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm doing it.

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Speaker 7: So Greg Olsen longtime Carolina Panthers tight end and Fox's

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Speaker 7: number one NFL analyst. I guess until Tom Brady is

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Speaker 7: part of the number one next year contractually.

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Speaker 8: But Greg Olsen lives in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 9: I know, dude, we need another commentator, We need another

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Speaker 9: famous commentators.

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Speaker 8: Amazing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Actually, Jonathan Stewart of the Carolina Panthers, at least

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Speaker 7: late of the Carolina Panthers lived in that neighborhood where

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Speaker 7: ken Flow is, as well as did their former head

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Speaker 7: coach Ron River.

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Speaker 8: If you're really curious, look at this guy.

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Speaker 1: Does his research are near Ken.

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Speaker 8: Flow, though he may shoot you on site. So just

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Speaker 8: to get everybody.

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Speaker 7: So, So, how's it going with August Integrated Defense?

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Speaker 8: By the way, it's going good.

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Speaker 1: It's going good. Man.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to twenty twenty four. Got some things

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Speaker 9: planned and yeah, I mean a lot to talk about, man.

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Speaker 9: I mean, what a card. So many, so many knockouts

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Speaker 9: and you survived it, You survived New York.

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Speaker 7: Well, what's nice too about these pay per views nowadays?

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Speaker 7: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, we don't necessarily have

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Speaker 7: to go the full three hours, right, So when you

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Speaker 7: get a lot of finishes. We just keep it moving

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Speaker 7: and nothing like seeing Dana White pick up that phone

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Speaker 8: So yeah, we had a lot.

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Speaker 7: To get into as we recap UFC two ninety five.

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Speaker 7: Part of the reason I brought up brought up Greg

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Speaker 7: as an analyst to one of our guests today, the

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Speaker 7: greatest living American former WEC light heavyweight champion, Brian stant Now.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you've heard Greg Olsen in commentary

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow. You might have and not known it was

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Speaker 7: him at the time, but there's an undeniable resemblance in

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Speaker 7: very excitedly talk to Brian stan here. Coming up in

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Speaker 7: I was able to go into the locker room and

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Speaker 7: censoring myself. Okay, So I can very easily censor myself

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Speaker 7: and not use the F word the rest of the

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Speaker 7: recap if that is what people so choose. My mother

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Speaker 7: just was watching Annix Square, the NFL podcast I do

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Speaker 7: pretty good NFL content. You guys are hitting the board

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Speaker 7: pretty well. But my goodness, your worst verbal crutch both

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Speaker 7: stop using it? So let's see what happens. All right,

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Speaker 7: let us dive in to you. UFC two ninety five

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Speaker 7: and our main event, Light Heavyweight Championship. Alex Padata trying

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Speaker 7: He accomplishes that feat gets Uri proask out of there

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Speaker 7: ten UFC fights coming in and here he is, you know,

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Speaker 9: I mean, when you hear your rival, right, someone like

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Speaker 9: it's not like Izzy and Poeton are great friends, you know.

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Speaker 7: So oftentimes I talk about these fighter meetings and a

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Speaker 7: Padata's mits are absolutely enormous, so I'd imagine, yeah, if

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Speaker 7: It's a real problem. I think I'm most marvel at

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Speaker 7: But calfkicks just an amazing ability to just touch you

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Speaker 9: Question about it, man, I had him thinking and had

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Speaker 9: Ability is compromised, your ability to hit takedowns, your ability

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Speaker 9: And Pereira is an absolute master of the calfkick. There

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Speaker 9: a completely different wrinkle. Your stance has to be adjusted,

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Speaker 9: You cannot be leaning too far forward on that lead leg.

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Speaker 9: Your head probably shouldn't be far forward over your lead

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Speaker 7: I would imagine our guests integrated defense should be teaching

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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 3: What's a whole less fust? That's what I want?

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Speaker 4: Hey boo, yeah, man, cluster fuck at the OK Corral.

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Speaker 7: Ah wow, Yeah that y long Ago does not watching

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 7: In so the UFC continuing its record run at Madison

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Speaker 7: twenty three is UFC Love Event. But yeah, Raymond, let's

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Speaker 8: What the fuck is that noise?

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Speaker 4: Man, I did nothing. You hear noise right now?

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Speaker 4: Sure, where are we? Ben? Benvoir? Hets off to uh Ben, Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 8: So I have a lot of thoughts.

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Speaker 7: This guy's invested in training, right. He just fought in

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Speaker 7: He might join us later in the week on Thursday.

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Speaker 7: But Kenny, big picture like yes, and you're right, Ray, absolutely,

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Speaker 9: as you know, quitting or taking his foot off the

438
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Speaker 9: gas pedal, that's just not going to happen. I think

439
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 9: you know it is. It is the toughest division in

440
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 9: the UFC. I think that him beating someone like Forvola

441
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 9: says a lot. But to me and Ray correct me

442
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 9: if I'm wrong, I didn't see Matt get quite settled

443
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 9: in that fight. I don't know if you settle down

444
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 9: and allow his skills to kind of go out there.

445
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: He seemed a little like jittery there.

446
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Speaker 9: I don't think he had the opportunity to kind of

447
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 9: like settle, like, okay, all right, let's just.

448
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: Do what I'm doing in the gym.

449
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Speaker 4: Does that mean one hundred right? Because he's got great

450
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: he's you know, he can wrestle, he got good jiu jitsu.

451
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: I thought he got frantic on top. That's why he

452
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 4: got swept. You know, Like I said, all we needed

453
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 4: was some control time down there, catch your breath, settled

454
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 4: into the fight, and I think we got a different fight.

455
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 4: But it was, you know, he just got you. I

456
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: think you're right. It was like a franticness that that's

457
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,719
Speaker 4: always going to lead to a lapse in your in

458
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 4: your judgment somewhere. Right. You can't you can't train like that,

459
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm gonna I agree

460
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 4: with one hundred percent. I thought, you know, uh, I

461
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: thought he could have settled in with his jiu jitsu.

462
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 4: He definitely has it, uh And that's not the way

463
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 4: he's farsed. So uh, you know, it's going to be

464
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 4: a learning experience. We'll see what. You know, he'll he'll

465
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 4: bounce back from I'm sure, but you know, even nas,

466
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: I think guy in his fight, it was he got

467
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Speaker 4: a little frantic when he was on top instead of

468
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Speaker 4: just getting the position first and picking away to have them.

469
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: So those are two things that both of those guys

470
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 4: have to go back and go in. Like you know, well,

471
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: we'll talk about NAS's fight too, but but I know

472
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: he was a little frantic on top of he was

473
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Speaker 4: rushing to the mountain. Even I had algo scream, you

474
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: don't have to go to the mounta the guy's already

475
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: like beat up, Like it's not. I think sometimes it's

476
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 4: so conditioned to get to the mount like almost what

477
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: we were saying last week with the fight where the

478
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 4: guy couldn't finish him in the mount that's the pinnacle position.

479
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: I got to get there and then that guy did

480
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 4: nothing with it. But I think that was part of

481
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: the problem too. But you know, a couple of things

482
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Speaker 4: to go back to the drawing board and fixed. But

483
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Speaker 4: like again, it wasn't like he was getting out for

484
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Speaker 4: it in the fight getting back to Fravola. He just

485
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: that's an exam. He just made a mistake and he

486
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Speaker 4: paid for it, you know what I mean. And the

487
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: like again, I think that franticness carried over to the

488
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Speaker 4: way he was moving after that when you know and

489
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Speaker 4: he just yeah, it's it's it's what was that.

490
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Speaker 7: So, Mattrovolo, Ben was Antony fight ten times and Salves

491
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 7: one of our great listeners, right, his dad's gonna hear this.

492
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Speaker 8: But those guys fight ten times.

493
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Speaker 7: You think it's fifty to fifty, Like you like that

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 7: matchup for your guy, Like you think you think Ben

495
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Speaker 7: was Antony right now is an easy fight for the champion?

496
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 7: Islama Kasha, you know, Like, I don't know, am I

497
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 7: overstating again?

498
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: Like the guy?

499
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: Look, we talked about it when he beat Moyses that time.

500
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: We were all highland Ben, remember that's right, even when

501
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: we got the call for Ben, like, oh man, we

502
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: just got done gassing them up, you know what I mean? So,

503
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: uh no, but for Islam, I don't think that's a

504
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 4: good fight for Ben wat right.

505
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 7: Now, that's not at all what That's different than just

506
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Speaker 7: suggesting that it's an easy night at the office. Like no, there,

507
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I'm not even suggesting there's any

508
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 7: lightweight that is an easy night at the office, right,

509
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I'm bullish. Don Ben was on quickly

510
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 7: they progress him. I thought his call outs of Justin

511
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 7: Gatchee and Dustin Pourier were a little bit ambitious, but

512
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 7: he's so thoughtful that he even gave you mataus gamrod

513
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 7: if you think the other two callouts are a little

514
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 7: bit too ambitious, but no, I like Matt Ravola. I

515
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 7: do as a top fifteen lightweight, as an elite lightweight

516
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 7: moving forward. I thought there were definitely pockets of this

517
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 7: fight that you can argue we're really good for Matt.

518
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 7: His next fight is going to be absolutely critical.

519
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Speaker 9: Well, I also think you know, and I didn't mean

520
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 9: to take away credit from Ben wass at Deni, but

521
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 9: he also is bringing that chaos. That's what he brings

522
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 9: every single time he fights. It's a totally different fight, right,

523
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 9: if you're fighting someone who's trying to out point you, right,

524
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 9: who's trying to out athlete you, as opposed to a

525
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 9: guy who is with every shot and everything he does

526
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 9: during a round, he's trying to finish you. That's the

527
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 9: way he fights. He's bringing a fight to you, and

528
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 9: he's not there to screw around. He's not there to

529
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 9: win rounds. He's out there to defeat you right by

530
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 9: his own hands. But there's knockout or submission like that's

531
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 9: that's the style, and that's never an easy guy to fight,

532
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 9: no question.

533
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, mentality wise, he's ready for anything. That's yeah, yeah,

534
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: you know, can he match you with his physicality and

535
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: his technique, but mentally it is you throw him in

536
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: anywhere tomorrow. I mean, that's part of what he does.

537
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 4: And he's young enough to make a shitload of adjustments. Yeah,

538
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a young kid, right, he's not even

539
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: that old.

540
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Speaker 7: And when you get a kid who comes in and

541
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 7: he sort of said in a very humble way, he's like,

542
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 7: there haven't been any United States Navy Seals who have

543
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 7: have fought in the Octagon, right, Yeah, we have about

544
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Speaker 7: the most decorated United States military member coming on the program.

545
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, don't you so the United States military before

546
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 4: that man gets on the shows.

547
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, no no, that's not what I'm doing.

548
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 7: But it's just to let people know that this is

549
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 7: a Special Forces operative and a man on a military

550
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 7: level unseen prior in the world famous Octagon.

551
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 8: Those are just the facts.

552
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 7: And when you see a kid come into the Fighter

553
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Speaker 7: meeting and say, yeah, I'm spending all this money on

554
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 7: training and spending money on wrestling. Uh, he's certainly not

555
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 7: getting any worse. I would kindly suggest to the rest

556
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 7: of the lightweight division might as well try to get

557
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 7: Ben was Antony now.

558
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: Before he gets any would be Yeah.

559
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 7: And in terms of Nazim Sadakov, I just hope he

560
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 7: understands just how how there for the taking that fight

561
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 7: was in round three, that was his w I mean,

562
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 7: you got the bonus great fight.

563
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 8: Of the night.

564
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 7: But you know, I think that's a guy, you know,

565
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 7: respectfully that he should.

566
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: Be oh, without a doubt. And I mean if you're

567
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: asking me, like in their going into the third round,

568
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: I thought that old guy had no chance. So it's

569
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 4: uh right, you know, I think you know, like I

570
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: talked the Nis, you know, he's you know, he's very upbeat.

571
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: You know. I think he felt like, look, it's Massion

572
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: Squake guard and I want to put on the show.

573
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Speaker 4: I wanted my Michael Chanley Gagee moment. He got it,

574
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you know in his

575
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: head he'll move forward, there's no question about anything. He

576
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: got that out of his system. Yeah, and the kid,

577
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 4: he had a great dance partner. I mean the kid

578
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: was tough. They both were tough. I mean it was

579
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: a look, that's why people love to fight. That's why

580
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: he got the bonus, you know. But uh, how he

581
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: doesn't you know, I don't know what happened in the

582
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: third round, but he was having to be I think

583
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: it was he was having too much fun. He really

584
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: had a great time, you know. No, no, no, if

585
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: you talk to him, he'll you know, it's not going

586
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: to take you long to he'll convince you like that.

587
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: He just had a great time. You know. So, uh,

588
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: those are things that you could I think correct, you

589
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like because I want to w

590
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: but he got the bonus. So and they said it

591
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: is a he loved to fight. Guy's dancing with him afterwards.

592
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying it's technically good.

593
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 7: I think there's value in that and having his msg moment.

594
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 7: And he didn't lose the fight, so so I can

595
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 7: get behind all of that. I think it's very interesting

596
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 7: to see what they do with him going forward. I

597
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 7: wonder if go ahead.

598
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: I think I think he's a company guy. I think

599
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 4: they love him. That's why they gave him the bonus.

600
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: I think they you know, yes, I see, I think

601
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: they see the value in that kid for sure.

602
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 8: And yeah, I'm intrigued.

603
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 7: I was just going to say, as to who they

604
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 7: give him next, Maybe give him Jared Gordon Little New

605
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 7: York on New York Crime.

606
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: We love Jared Gordon.

607
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 8: Don't I want the New York No good guy.

608
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: No No, I'm just saying I don't want to yeah,

609
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 4: fighting in New York, I don't want to fight. All right?

610
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 8: All right, we have so much more to get into.

611
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 7: I got to get your thoughts collectively on Tom Aspinall.

613
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 7: I'll lead with ken flow here, next level UFC heavyweight,

614
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 7: new breed of UFC heavyweight. Throw out your trite cliche,

615
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 7: whatever it is. He's the UFC's interim heavyweight champion. And

616
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 7: as I said on the broadcast, Kenny, a lot of

617
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 7: people felt like it was an eventuality, even if not

618
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 7: on this night with no training camp, at some point

619
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Speaker 7: and to Tom Aspinall was going to become a usc

620
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 7: heavyweight champion. And we congratulate Tom. Can flow your thoughts

621
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 7: on this fight all of all of one minute, nine seconds.

622
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the great news about it, John is that

623
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 9: he still has so much.

624
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: More to learn and improve on.

625
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 9: Like from an athletic perspective, he's an unusual heavyweight.

626
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: He moves like an absolute cat.

627
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 9: This is a giant cat that knows how to move

628
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 9: his feet. He knows how to counter man, and he

629
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 9: did it against another guy and Padlovich, who is extremely dangerous.

630
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 9: You know, it's one thing to go, oh, I'm gonna

631
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 9: move my feet, I'm going to counter him, but very few.

632
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Have been able to do that against Pablovich.

633
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 9: And to make matters worse, Aspinall can get you on

634
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 9: the ground as well. He's good everywhere. Man, This is

635
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 9: this is a new breed of heavyweight. There's no question

636
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 9: about it. I still think he's got to hide that

637
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 9: chin a little bit more, move that head a little

638
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 9: bit more, and if he does that, uh, he's gonna

639
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 9: have that belt until he retires. Like that's how good

640
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 9: he is, That's how much potential he is. He's a

641
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 9: rarity in this sport. And that's about as good as

642
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 9: it gets in the main event. Getting to finish like

643
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 9: that against a very scary guy, Aspinall is going to

644
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 9: be a very huge star if he continues with that.

645
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 7: How forged is this Andy Aspinall? To just not cry

646
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 7: buckets of tears. You've been at every training session for

647
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 7: your son from the time he's eight years old until

648
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 7: he realizes a UFC world title at thirty years of age.

649
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 7: My if my kid ever scores a goal, I'm going

650
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 7: to be the laughing stock of the soccer pitch. So

651
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 7: this father son connection, Kenny and to see them and

652
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Speaker 7: Ray realize this together, just a really special moment for

653
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 7: a really special athlete.

654
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 8: Ray, pretty cool to see that all.

655
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 9: Thinking about that what you just said, I mean, that's unbelievable.

656
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: Those stories are always great, you know what I mean.

657
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: But well, I was totally wrong on it. I thought

658
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: that fight was going to be the complete opposite I

659
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: thought Pavlovitch was going to do to him. I just

660
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: think coming in from another country, taking a short nose,

661
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: that's off fin for that. I think that's a challenge

662
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: in itself, and he just went right through it. And

663
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: then to hear that he even had a back problem,

664
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: I think it makes him more special. So yeah, don't

665
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: ever count on me for anything with that. I really

666
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: thought that was a big advantage to surgery, having a

667
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: fact that he was getting ready to beat the backup guy.

668
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 7: So well, very well, Ray, Yeah, I mean Tom Asmital

669
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: said going into the Asperaal said going into the Curtis

670
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 7: Blades fight, Kenny that he had been realizing success essentially

671
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 7: for years on one leg and that was really a

672
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 7: blessing to get that knee right. And look at the

673
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 7: way he has come out the other side and taking

674
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Speaker 7: out Marching to Bora and then even more violently here

675
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 7: Sergey Pavlovitch. So we congratulate Tom aspinall the UFC's interim

676
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 7: Heavyweight Champion, unbelie and.

677
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 8: Kenny real quick.

678
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 7: You know, Michael Bisping, as I said all week, was

679
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: not putting Tom Aspin all over and suggesting he will

680
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 7: go down as the greatest MMA heavyweight of all time

681
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 7: because they're boys, or because they're both from England. He's

682
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 7: doing it because of what the film tells him. And

683
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 7: you know, the film makes me want to lean into

684
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 7: a lot of those superlatives. So I'm just curious. I

685
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 7: guess how good this guy can be and how you

686
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 7: would handicap a fight between him and John Jones.

687
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 9: Gosh, listen, I think he's the only guy in that

688
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 9: heavyweight division at the moment who can match the athleticism

689
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 9: of someone like John Jones.

690
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: He is a mountain of a man. He moves, he

691
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: moves like a lightweight.

692
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 9: I think he's got better submission skills on the ground

693
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 9: than John Jones. I think wrestling might be an issue

694
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 9: a little bit right off his back, he might have

695
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 9: some issues, but as far as his striking, his ability

696
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 9: to put you out with one shot, he's got greater

697
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 9: knock out, a greater knockout ability in my opinion than

698
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 9: John Jones at the moment. So yeah, if this guy

699
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 9: stays healthy, John, good luck to anybody trying to unseat him.

700
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 9: It's gonna it's going to be very, very difficult. I

701
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 9: could see him holding onto that belt for a long time.

702
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 9: And man, he is special, There's no question about it.

703
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 8: He is enormous.

704
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 7: So Sergey Pavlovitch had half a foot in reach six

705
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 7: inches in reach, Pavlovich eighty four inches, tom Aspinall seventy

706
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 7: eight inches. But tom aspinall' is the taller man. Well

707
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 7: like DC and I both have seventy two inch reaches.

708
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 7: But you know how that plight would go, right, I

709
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 7: have that long arm, so yes, but dude like tom Aspinall,

710
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 7: every time I'm around him or Daniel's around him, we

711
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 7: just remark at how at how big an individual he

712
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 7: really is.

713
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 8: He's huge, thick, and he wasn't even in camp. Man

714
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 8: wasn't even in camp.

715
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that fascinates me, Man and it really does.

716
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: So like again had so as again for that size

717
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: and that agility and that I think he's opening up

718
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: as the favorite against John Jones for sure. I'd like

719
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: to see him take one more fight though, because he's

720
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 4: just going to get better and better.

721
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 7: So it's really interesting you talk about the betting line

722
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 7: and perhaps Cody can chase one for us on DraftKings Sportsbook.

723
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that Johnnyavella and those guys have pushed

724
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 7: out a lot on John Jones and Tom aspital I

725
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 7: don't believe Tom Aspinall would open at the favorite. But

726
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 7: there's a lot of thought behind what you just said,

727
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: because I think that if there was a plus number

728
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 7: next to Tom Aspinall's name, however big, that a lot

729
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 7: of people would want to want to hit that number.

730
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 8: So to speak.

731
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 7: On the three year rold, that is much maybe closer

732
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 7: to his fighting prime, not that John Jones can't fight

733
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 7: at a prime level, but he's not stacking training camps

734
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 7: at the stage of his career. So ray I wanted

735
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 7: to get a few thoughts from you on Alex Paneda

736
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 7: if I could, and then a few thoughts on Dennis

737
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 7: Pazuka before we let you get on out of here.

738
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 7: But what Alex Paneda has accomplished in a short amount

739
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 7: of time is nothing short of extraordinary. And h you know,

740
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 7: perhaps a lesson to all of us out there to

741
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: touch our top lip to our bottom lip and not

742
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 7: talk shit. Because had Attasani kept quiet and not unleash

743
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 7: this beast, then maybe things will be a little bit different.

744
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 7: But Alex Panata man incredible win over Uri Prohaska, and

745
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 7: we got a new UFC Light Heavyweight champion, and the

746
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 7: road to two hundred and five pounds gold goes through Danbury, Connecticut, USA.

747
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 8: Once again.

748
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: Look, I love everything about Alex Pereira, I really do.

749
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: I'd like to even Alex.

750
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 7: I haven't heard, you know, I've heard this man's name

751
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 7: mispronounced every which way.

752
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 8: I've never heard Alex.

753
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: What is it? Alex, ale Alex.

754
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 8: Alex, Alexa, Alex, just not Alex.

755
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: Okay, he's ap for the rest of the show. Training

756
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 4: up in dan Buried They got a nice little gym

757
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: up there with gloved texts Ayrea, you got a look.

758
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 4: I love the whole. I love the whole small camp thing.

759
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: I love the whole connection with gloved texts, Era, you

760
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: could see the love they have for each other and

761
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: how they pull for each other. I love to get

762
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: up the headdress, the bow and arrow thing. I just

763
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: like the who. I just like his whole stick and

764
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: love the power regenerates from a short distance the guys.

765
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: He's intriguing, man, I think, and I think almost the

766
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: less he says, the better it is for him because

767
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: he's got that when he's got the war paint on. Man,

768
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: it's good. That was a great matchup because you had

769
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: the other guy with the samurai thing, and these are

770
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: guys that they're not just there were guys that go

771
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 4: to the Way and Kenny and they just make up

772
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: a costume a different one every time. These two guys

773
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: literally believe in what the hell they were doing up,

774
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, the Samurai against whatever. The

775
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: guy from the from the rainforest. I don't know where

776
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: he's coming from, but you know what I'm saying, like it,

777
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: I love it. I mean, I love the whole thing.

778
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: And it was it wasn't bullshit, you know, what I mean,

779
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 4: it wasn't this guy's not just paint in his face

780
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 4: and say, oh I think this looks good? How cool

781
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: is this going to be? Know his guys? Yeah, whatever

782
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: that's supposed to me, it means so I love I

783
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: love everything. I love those guys. Look they great guys.

784
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: I love to glove it text there. I think he's

785
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: one of the nicest guys in m M A. And

786
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm happy for him as well as I am for ap.

787
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, John, why aren't you correcting Rogan and Cormier

788
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 9: when they're when they're saying peheeda, I got some.

789
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 7: I'm just creating commercials on a Saturday.

790
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm not a genius, Kenny, But I think it's because

791
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: he's within striking distance.

792
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 7: So uh, I don't know if there's a thoughtful way

793
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 7: to put this, but you know, your night begins with

794
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 7: this Dennis Pazukia fight against Jamal le Emmers, and forty nine

795
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 7: seconds into the fight, the fight's over. So I don't

796
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 7: know what the jumping off point is, but certainly a

797
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 7: disappointing way to begin the night for you guys in dB.

798
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: It's a horrible way to start the night. Look, man,

799
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 4: it is. I'm going to say everybody had great train

800
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 4: any camps. Everybody, if you were in the dressing room,

801
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: everybody looked absolutely fantastic. But sometimes you do everything right

802
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: and everything goes wrong. Sometimes you do everything wrong and

803
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: it goes right. Almost like an Aspen Walls thing. He

804
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: didn't even have a training camp and he looked like

805
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 4: a world beater. So, man, I don't know, I got

806
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: to go back to that, you know, I talked to

807
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: Dennis yesterday. It's hard to even sum up anything from that.

808
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 4: I I don't know, maybe the nerves, the big state,

809
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't even know what to say.

810
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: It wasn't much that really happy, just said he didn't

811
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: see the punch coming, and that kid can box. Man,

812
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 4: it's confusing to me to be honest with you, but.

813
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 9: I know there's a lot that goes on, you know,

814
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 9: between a good performance a bad performance, very very nuanced thing.

815
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 9: I fought like dog poop in Boston. How much of

816
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 9: it do you think has to do with fighting in your.

817
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 11: Hometown, Kenny, I'm starting to think everything that guy, But

818
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 11: holy crap, I don't know. I felt very man that

819
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 11: I feel good going into.

820
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 4: That uh to that night. I really did, had three

821
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: guys that really they put the time in after the

822
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: first fight. If the Nazisi got it, they're trying to

823
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: fucking kill me. They're trying to actually give me a

824
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: heart attack tonight. And my leg's feeling good, I feel great,

825
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: But I go there, it's gonna be They're gonna they're

826
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: gonna fucking kill me tonight, you know.

827
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 6: So I don't know.

828
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: I just look, I'm there for those guys. You know,

829
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna regroup and do what we have to do.

830
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: But I don't even know what to say about buzukas

831
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: fighter was you know, If anything, I just thought he

832
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: waited too much, you know what I mean? He he

833
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: in sparring, he comes out very aggressive, even if you

834
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: know even in the mid session he comes out he's

835
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: on fire. I I just think, you gotta fight the

836
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: way you've been training. And I think he waited, waited,

837
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: waited a little too much trying to get a read

838
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: on the guy, and it was too late. But like again,

839
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: these are questions you gotta only they know what's going on.

840
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: But as far as New York, I think at this point,

841
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: I to think it means I don't know I don't

842
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: even know what to say.

843
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: Last thing, Ray, we got about sixty seconds before we

844
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: bring on Brian Stan here. But most often the UFC

845
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 7: tries to work in a meritocracy, but sometimes you have

846
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 7: a circumstance that gets in the way of the rightful

847
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 7: number one contender getting a championship opportunity. In this case,

848
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 7: as such, it was announced since we were last on

849
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 7: the air, Marlon Chido Vera will fight Sugar Sean O'Malley

850
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 7: for the UFC Bandamay Championship that will be in March.

851
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 7: I think a lot of us were expecting that they

852
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 7: were going to try to bleed this a little bit.

853
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 7: It wasn't going to be December nor January. But it

854
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: seems like maybe Morob Dwallas Willie your guy, the number

855
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 7: one contender, could be in line to fight Henry Sohuo.

856
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 7: Any thoughts for us on thirty five pounders before we

857
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 7: let you.

858
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: Fly in regards to what.

859
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 7: In regards to if Morob's gonna fight Henry or any

860
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 7: thoughts on everything that I just laid out in the face.

861
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 8: I mean, you could punch me.

862
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: No, what the heck's the matter? You know? No, definitely,

863
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: no Morob looks like he's gonna fight Henry, so who

864
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: hopefully on the same card as Cheeto and Sugar would

865
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: make sense.

866
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: So good, that should be the push, right and uh look, meritocracy, Look,

867
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 7: Morob deserves that fight, there's no question about it.

868
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: Or Aljio gets a rematch, so that's out the window.

869
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: But look, Cheeto's a great guy. Look, Perillo hats up

870
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: to him. He got the fight. But uh do I

871
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: think Morob deserves to fight on. But you know, Morob's

872
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: at a point now where you know, if he's gotta

873
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: fight Henry, he's gonna fight whoever he has to fight,

874
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You never know, and he

875
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: might be on standby too, you don't know. So uh yeah,

876
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: he's gonna do whatever it takes to get what he wants. Uh.

877
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: I don't even want to get into certain things. But

878
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: I don't think he's feeling the love from anybody up top.

879
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's a shame, because I guarantee this

880
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: is a really good kid. And it just that ship

881
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: breaks my heart when you don't even get rewarded for

882
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: being like a good, good person, Like it's just that

883
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: it all sucks.

884
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Man.

885
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: But well, I think the Sahudo fight is the springboard,

886
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 7: and it's tricky, right, he has the winning streak, he

887
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 7: has the number one next to his name, But I

888
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 7: think the Sahudo fight will be the conduit through which

889
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 7: he gets his title fight, and once he does, if

890
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 7: he wins it, right, And I've said similar things to

891
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 7: Blao Muhammad, right, but just got to get that fight,

892
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 7: and Blal has gotten that fight in theory, right, like

893
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 7: the Georgian contingent get behind me, rob in a championship setting.

894
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: Holy shit, yeah, I mean that's the yeah, real blow.

895
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 4: What did I spoke to Ballo a lot this week

896
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: and what does he got coming up?

897
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 7: Well, no, he doesn't have a title fight, but he

898
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 7: won a fight in which the winner was guaranteed a

899
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 7: title fight. So I do believe Dana White eventually will

900
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 7: honor that win over Gilbert Burns as an eliminator. And

901
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 7: I think Billow's next fight, even if it's in twenty

902
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 7: twenty nine, will be for the world championship. But we

903
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 7: got the greatest live in America in here, so we're

904
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 7: gonna let you fly. But I wish I had more time.

905
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 7: I'm glad I had at least a minute to come

906
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: into the locker room and give you a T shirt.

907
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 8: And say hello.

908
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 7: Obviously my favorite, You're my favorite New Yorker, and I

909
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 7: always wish we had more time.

910
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, always great, senior man. I had a great

911
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: time with Cody too, So I got to see Cody,

912
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: which was great, and I would have loved to have

913
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 4: spent more time with you, John. But that's another thing

914
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: with New York. You think it's going to go good,

915
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 4: everybody's here, you know, and then yeah, before you know it,

916
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 4: it's Monday morning and you missed ten people. You should

917
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: have talked this. This is what it is. But right

918
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 4: now for me, if we got to regroup and get

919
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: everybody back on track, is we're in a little bit

920
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: of a slide. Yeah, we'll see what theos made at well, yeah,

921
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: we'll see what it's made.

922
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: At a well.

923
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 7: Thankfully, you know, voting for Coach of the Year closed

924
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 7: well before this little.

925
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: Hey, i'll call you later.

926
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: I owe you a phone call, one hundred percent. Let's

927
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: do that.

928
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 8: We got a lot to I'll call you later, Yes,

929
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 8: I do.

930
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely do.

931
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 8: The great Ray Longo with us every week.

932
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: Boy, maybe maybe Kenny can help us.

933
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, Kenny we need some help.

934
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: Tell that greatest living American that Ray Longo says hello

935
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: and thank you for your service. As usual, I wll

936
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: you guys next week and definitely call me. I got

937
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: a million I will call you. I will call it

938
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: cool me.

939
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 7: Every week here on the Anakin Florin Podcast. And for

940
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 7: the minute, men who think I'm always banging on Ray,

941
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 7: you just heard him say, definitely call me. We don't

942
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 7: do it for the show, but I do feel a

943
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 7: little bit perpetually misunderstood by our audience when it comes

944
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 7: to the Ray Longo dynamic. But now joining us as

945
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 7: we continue our u f C two ninety five recap,

946
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 7: look this guy eleven time you have ce veteran, former

947
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: WEC light heavyweight champion, the United States Marine who's valor

948
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 7: and leadership in combat was recognized by the United States

949
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 7: of America. Just remove from Veteran's day one of my

950
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 7: best friends in the world, the greatest living American, Brian Stan.

951
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 8: It's good to see a handsome how are we doing.

952
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 6: Good to see you guys.

953
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: Man, it's great to see how much this show continues

954
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: to blow up. You guys just put out phenomenal content

955
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: and man, I miss you guys, I get all kinds

956
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 5: of nostalgic anytime your name comes across from a text

957
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 5: message and email. I got the chance to bump in

958
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: and see Kenny and just shake his hand. Right, he

959
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: was so busy, but it's awesome. Thanks for having me on.

960
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 7: So it's crazy to think it's now been more than

961
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: ten years since your last fight against vander le Silva.

962
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: It's wild, you know, and it feels like a different

963
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 5: phase of my life.

964
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 3: I've been so.

965
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 6: Focused these last few years.

966
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 5: I really, as I call it, getting my black belt

967
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: in business, and it feels so long ago.

968
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 4: But I was.

969
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: Literally just using a vignette a lesson, a metaphor for

970
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 5: my fighting career and the lessons, the hard lessons you learn,

971
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: and how unforgiving that sport is, and trying to develop

972
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: a person on my team, you know, who's you know,

973
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 5: dealing with you know.

974
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: Some different challenges.

975
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 5: So it's been a while, man, it doesn't feel like

976
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: it's that long, and then other days it feels like

977
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 5: it the whole lifetime ago.

978
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 8: Right.

979
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 7: So I know your work life is crazy, five daughters

980
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: and everything else you have going on, but I do

981
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 7: know that you try to strike some sort of work

982
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 7: life balance, which means that some of your recreational time

983
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 7: is reserved for these UFC pay per views. So we're

984
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 7: happy to be able to pick your brain a little

985
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 7: bit and then time permitting. Certainly on the back end,

986
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 7: I want to maybe dive into some some personal stuff.

987
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 7: But of the fourteen or so UFC pay per views

988
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 7: we do, I'd imagine you catch Awayward fight night here

989
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 7: or there. But of the pay per views, how many

990
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 7: of these things are you know, still appointment viewing for

991
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 7: you at this stage of your life.

992
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 12: All all the big cards the really cool thing for me,

993
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 12: I look at it through lends from a business in

994
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 12: this content machine that the right, yeah, the media.

995
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 5: Rights, the content right to show that product is just

996
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 5: take and the valuation of.

997
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: The company proof.

998
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: And I get around.

999
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 5: These casual fans who love the sport and there is

1000
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 5: no huge name headlining that car, right, there is nobody

1001
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 5: that a casual fan who watches football on Sundays and

1002
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 5: is that their kids, you know, baseball and lacrosse games

1003
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: on Saturdays. It's just hey, UFC pay per view, We're

1004
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 5: going to watch it. The brand is just now so

1005
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: associated as putting on awesome fights and so you could

1006
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: have someone who's never seen you know, Yerie and Pahy

1007
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 5: to fight before and watch that fight.

1008
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: And how are you not entertaining?

1009
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: Right?

1010
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: How are you not saying the next day, Brian, the

1011
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: next time there's a pay per view, make sure you

1012
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: over I want to watch that in your basement because

1013
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: that was awesome and it's wild.

1014
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 11: Right.

1015
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: They've grown the sport to the point where you can

1016
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: deliver amazing you don't always require the star power that

1017
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: maybe the sport required in previous years. And that says

1018
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: a lot for you that. I mean, these athletes globally now,

1019
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 5: the well rounded, unique, diverse athletes that this sport finds,

1020
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: it's just incredible. So I had a lot of fun

1021
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 5: and really enjoyed the I really enjoyed the car.

1022
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 9: So, Brian, you see a difference even from when you

1023
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 9: were commentating not too long ago to how it is

1024
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 9: right now.

1025
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you know when when?

1026
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 4: When? When?

1027
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 6: When I was commentating right?

1028
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 5: Specifically, Connor McGregor is mentioned in the documents for evaluation

1029
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: that was at a multiple, right, a multiple of earnings

1030
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: that people just hadn't seen before. Right, That was a

1031
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 5: massive sale of the UFC and a lot of their

1032
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 5: value is associated with the star power of singular names

1033
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 5: Ronda Rouse, Econnor McGregor. It's so beyond that now, right,

1034
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: pandemic accelerated a little bit, But I think that there's

1035
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: there are executives and people, you know, John and you

1036
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: being some of them, right, whose brands are associated with

1037
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 5: this sport and have continued to move it forward to

1038
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 5: where every time you watch a pay per view broadcast,

1039
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: you know you're going to see really good contents. Like

1040
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 5: when you want Sunday night football, right, you're not gonna

1041
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 5: get like if you watch Amazon's Thursday night game, you

1042
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 5: may not get the greatest game in the world, right,

1043
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 5: but if you watch Sunday Night, you can expect to

1044
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: see it. People know that now, and and people have

1045
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: a lot of fun. The hardcore fans are gonna you know,

1046
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 5: people like us are going to follow the names.

1047
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 6: But now the big bulk of people who pay to watch.

1048
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: Pay per views just know they're going to watch some

1049
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: really great athletes fight, and they don't know whatever the

1050
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 5: odds are, right, who the hell knows what's going to happen,

1051
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: because so many times the odds mean nothing, and someone

1052
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: gets a.

1053
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Massive upset Brian, you alluded to it earlier.

1054
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 9: You know, I guess I'm curious, obviously, with your military background,

1055
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 9: with your fighting background, what is the common thing that

1056
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 9: you can tie into the business world right now, Like,

1057
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 9: what is the thing that I think is most that

1058
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 9: you think is most apparent in what you're doing now

1059
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 9: as you know as CEO.

1060
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think you know.

1061
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 5: Discipline is obviously one but one of the biggest ones

1062
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: from fighting with humility.

1063
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 6: Right when when you do, when you are a.

1064
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: Mixed martial arts fighter, you are getting humbled every single

1065
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 5: day in the gym by somebody. If you're not, you're

1066
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: probably in the wrong gym. But Kenny, as you know,

1067
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 5: you'd go to the gym and some days Rashaan Evans

1068
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 5: would have me making make me feel like I need

1069
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 5: to retire, like I shouldn't. I can't wrestle with this guy,

1070
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: I can't get up from underneath them. Or then I

1071
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: do a sparring session, I do three rounds of John Jones.

1072
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: I didn't touch the guy like.

1073
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm not, you know what I mean?

1074
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: You learn to be very humble, and with that humility

1075
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: coupled with the discipline, you're constantly going to find the

1076
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: knowledge necessary to get better and in my role now,

1077
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: you know, as a CEO, it's very easy for me

1078
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: to think, well, you know, I went and got an

1079
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: executive MBA, studied overseas, like check the box BS. I

1080
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: am constantly trying to look around corners and figure out

1081
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: what don't I know about, Like I have gone deep

1082
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: into the well of artificial intelligence and machine learning and

1083
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: making sure that I hire the right people because big

1084
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 5: part of the future and my business needs to be

1085
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: investing in this technology to make sure that we can

1086
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 5: deliver cutting edge service to our customers. Right, That's not

1087
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 5: something I'm comfortable with.

1088
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1089
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 5: I wasn't like coding and Python and different you know,

1090
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 5: I had no idea what these things even meant.

1091
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 6: Right, And now I'm taking.

1092
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 5: Every course that I can find, and I'm seeking out

1093
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: knowledge from other advisors on how can I deploy this

1094
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 5: technology and invest in it so that I'm not caught,

1095
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 5: you know, two three years down the road where I'm

1096
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 5: at a significant strategic disadvantage.

1097
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: That's awesome, all right.

1098
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 9: I want to get back to us two ninety five.

1099
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 9: What a lot of a lot of knockouts, a lot

1100
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 9: of finishes. What was which was the fight that surprised

1101
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 9: you the most.

1102
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: You know, I think the app heavyweight shouldn't surprise you

1103
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: when the knockout is that early, right, But I still

1104
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: when I watch aspinall fight and he's been all the rage.

1105
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: But that is a big athletic guy, and you know,

1106
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 5: we're seeing more and more of that in heavyweight division.

1107
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: The heavyweight division used to be where if you could

1108
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 5: see a portion of the rankings there that they weren't

1109
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: really that good if you were to compare them to

1110
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 5: like lightweights and welterweights, you could still be a specialist

1111
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: and exists there and not kind of get found out

1112
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 5: and exposed. Not really starting to happen anymore, right, We're

1113
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 5: starting to get some really significant athletes like aspinall could

1114
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: probably go play a number of different professional sports, as

1115
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 5: can you know, a serial game. You know some of

1116
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: these guys. And I just when I saw that, I

1117
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 5: started to get really excited about a potential fight against

1118
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 5: John Jones, who, despite anything that's happened in his career,

1119
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 5: similar to like a Mike Tyson ten twenty years from now,

1120
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: people are going to talk about this guy as Hey, look,

1121
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: this is one of the most significant guys in combat

1122
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 5: sports history. I mean, he just destroyed people for multi generations,

1123
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 5: up and down the rankings and just made it look

1124
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: easy for far too long. Can John make it look

1125
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: easy against this guy? And I know we're not going

1126
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 5: to see that. Next to me, it's just has been.

1127
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 5: He's been prompting love Stepe, but dang it, I couldn't

1128
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 5: help but leave that paper be thinking to myself, boy.

1129
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 6: Do I he really really want that fight with John

1130
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 6: deelpy Well.

1131
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: Stepe's last fight took place when he was thirty eight

1132
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 7: years of age, and in theory, his next fight will

1133
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 7: happen when he's forty two. And that's part of the

1134
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 7: issue with the meat chitch return. I wondered aloud why

1135
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 7: more people didn't see value on him at like plus

1136
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 7: two ninety in the John Jones matchup.

1137
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 8: Everybody was looking at me like I'm crazy.

1138
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1139
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 7: I still felt like stevee was going to be competitive,

1140
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 7: but you're right. I mean, I'm up at night already

1141
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 7: thinking about John Jones and tom asmenall Brian stan with

1142
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 7: us here on the Anakmploying podcast. You may have heard

1143
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 7: me refer to Brian as the greatest living American.

1144
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: Now.

1145
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 7: I referred to you as such when you were my

1146
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 7: broadcast partner, and I don't know if it was John

1147
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: Anderson or John Butchi Gross on ESPN Sports Center used

1148
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 7: to refer to Tom Brady as the greatest living American.

1149
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 7: God loved Tommy. But the guy never even fucking served

1150
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 7: the country, right, I mean, can we just start there, like,

1151
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 7: there may be an American out there greater than Brian Stan,

1152
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 7: but I can assure you that individual so the goddamn country.

1153
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 7: But Brian stand is very grateful to give us a

1154
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 7: few minutes here on what I know is a busy Monday.

1155
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 8: So Alex Padeta bro like, is this not crazy?

1156
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: Right?

1157
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 7: Danbury, Connecticut's all right? But to be this few fights

1158
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 7: into his mixed martial arts career and to realize belt

1159
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: in two divisions, I don't know what it speaks to

1160
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 7: a lot of different things, but certainly he's had an

1161
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 7: appetite for MMA evolution and an appetite for this sport

1162
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 7: as a whole. To realize this greatness in such a

1163
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 7: short amount of time.

1164
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 5: You know, it's the thing that struck out to me

1165
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 5: the most in that fight. And he probably appreciates his

1166
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 5: technician that he is. There was an underhook in it,

1167
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 5: a very complex get up using the cage in that

1168
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 5: fight that we haven't seen a whole lot from behata Hey.

1169
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 5: It is typically just a survivor on the ground, wait

1170
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 5: for the referee.

1171
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 6: To save me. And then I'm just so potent on

1172
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 6: the feet.

1173
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 5: What he did when he got an under hook, he

1174
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 5: switched his legs, he got up, he held risk control,

1175
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 5: had a wizard like. He's working very hard and he's

1176
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: learning a lot, and it's gonna make it a lot harder.

1177
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: The recipe would behave anybody who wants to beat him,

1178
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: you better take him down a whole bunch of times,

1179
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: wear them out. That is not going to be the

1180
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 5: answer forever, because he showed he can do that. And

1181
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 5: then obviously, man, he's just so good technically. He doesn't

1182
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 5: need any space to knock you out. He's not knocking

1183
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: guys out with like these big blasting, you know, punches

1184
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 5: that we've seen in other fights. He's knocking out with

1185
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 5: like check hooks and like little tiny uppercuts and just

1186
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: these weird punky He's kicking your legs out from under

1187
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: you with like a very standard He's hardly even turning

1188
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: the hip over right.

1189
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 6: So he reminds me I used to play football.

1190
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: You'll see these guys in the weight room sometimes that

1191
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 5: are smaller than everybody else, But how are they pressing?

1192
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 6: Like a Jalen Hurts who squats over six hundred and

1193
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 6: some pounds. How does he do that?

1194
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 5: And then you learn about levers inside the joints, like

1195
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: I don't know the physical composition of the kid, but

1196
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 5: the power is just through the roof. And I don't

1197
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 5: care what weight he's fighting it.

1198
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 7: So I have do you have, like a few more minutes?

1199
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 7: Brian stanis with us here on the anak Employing podcast.

1200
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 7: So Greg Olsen is Fox's number one NFL analyst right now,

1201
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 7: Tom Brady will assume that seat. I guess in twenty

1202
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 7: twenty four. Greg Olsen lives in Kenflo's neighborhood in Charlotte,

1203
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 7: North Carolina. No, kidd, Yeah, So a lot of people

1204
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 7: believe this man sounds like you. Your voice is a

1205
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 7: little bit deeper, may be a little bit more polished.

1206
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 7: If I could say that, have you heard this before?

1207
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: And do you hear any audible similarity?

1208
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: So, John, I've got a chat group with all of

1209
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 5: my cousins and every weekend they start to be calling

1210
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 5: because we even have the similar faced head. Hey Brian, why, hey,

1211
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 5: hey Brian, you really sounded stupid than that. And now

1212
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: with the new commercials that they right, I'm he'sed on

1213
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 5: that as well. So yes, I have heard it, and

1214
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 5: I've even wondered, my gosh, he does sound a little

1215
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 5: bit like me, and he kind of geeks out over

1216
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: some of the details that I used to.

1217
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh so that that is.

1218
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 5: That is wild and I can only imagine how nice

1219
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: said that neighborhood is.

1220
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: And I'm clear.

1221
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: He's a dude. I saw this dude.

1222
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 9: He looked like a like a shaved YETI walking around

1223
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 9: the neighborhood that guy plays football.

1224
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: Who the heck is that kind of realized, Oh, it's

1225
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen.

1226
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1227
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 9: I'm I'm I'm kind of a football nude. But I

1228
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: was like, he's got to be someone. And someone's like, yeah, dude,

1229
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 9: that's Greg Olsen.

1230
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 5: What do you do eyes like this around because his

1231
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: head makes mine look.

1232
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 8: For Yeah, it does, dude.

1233
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1234
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 7: And if you don't know, Brian Stan did uh did

1235
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 7: do some college football pretty extensively for the ACC before

1236
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 7: becoming a UFC commentator, all right before I let you go.

1237
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 7: And perhaps this is a selfish question, but if you

1238
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 7: don't know, Brian stand and I called fights together for years,

1239
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 7: and with respect to Ken Flow and everybody else, all

1240
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 7: the other hard workers in the space, I've never met

1241
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 7: a broadcaster. I mean, maybe Dan Hardy's close, but I've

1242
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 7: never met a broadcaster who prepared on the level of

1243
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 7: Brian Stan not me, not anybody. And probably shouldn't surprise you,

1244
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 7: but when you left to go get your executive MBA,

1245
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 7: you were never a full time MMA personality. You always

1246
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 7: had a full time job even though you were calling

1247
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 7: maybe twenty twenty five cards a year. So obviously it

1248
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 7: was a very hard time in my life when you left,

1249
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 7: because I was like, this, dude's fucking leaving me at

1250
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 7: the altar. And I guess I should have been expectant

1251
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 7: that this was going to happen, like but did you

1252
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 7: ever really think that that your full time initiative was

1253
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 7: going to be UFC commentator?

1254
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 6: You know, I did.

1255
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: I had a conversation with the UFC before deciding to

1256
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: go back to school, and it was really around, hey, look,

1257
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 5: I've got three kids and I'm starting to look ahead.

1258
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 6: I've got a plan for college.

1259
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 5: And when comparing what I was doing in television to

1260
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 5: what I thought my capabilities could lead me to in business.

1261
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 5: You know, people make the bulk of their money and incentives,

1262
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: and whether it's stock awards or it's long term incentive compensation,

1263
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 5: but that's where real money is made, to where you

1264
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 5: can create real value for you and your family. And

1265
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 5: you know, when you're broadcasting for the UFC very similar

1266
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 5: to fighting, you get paid when you work. And so

1267
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 5: I just I wanted a long term contract. I said, look,

1268
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 5: if i can get signed up for something where I'm

1269
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 5: not constantly competing, you know, every year for a new thing,

1270
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 5: and they took great care of me. This isn't you know,

1271
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 5: UFC was wonderful to me. That just wasn't their model

1272
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 5: with their broadcaster.

1273
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: That hadn't really worried.

1274
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: You know what happens ten years from now when some

1275
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: incredible brand athlete retires and they want to call fights

1276
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: and I'm older, I'm less known, nobody cares about when

1277
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 5: I thought nobody remembers what I fought, and I become

1278
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 5: more expendable. Where is my greater earning potential? And at

1279
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 5: the same time, I felt like that was in business

1280
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 5: and running companies, and I also looked at it as

1281
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 5: I'm starting to miss some of these major events in

1282
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 5: my kid's life because I'm constantly hustling on the weekends,

1283
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 5: flying internationally and doing that and not having a long

1284
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: term contract. So much time in being a broadcaster, and

1285
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 5: I don't have any and there's no guarantees for anybody

1286
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 5: in anything, but I feel like I've got I've got

1287
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 5: more security with my allegations to my family and what

1288
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 5: I do now and that I did. Had I gotten

1289
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 5: a long term contract, I very well could have, you know,

1290
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 5: still been doing TV, which was the most fun job

1291
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,479
Speaker 5: I've ever had.

1292
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's an honor and a privilege to

1293
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 6: be able to do that. In the UFC treated us

1294
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 6: very well.

1295
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: Well.

1296
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Speaker 7: You're a tremendous asset and ambassador, not just to this

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Speaker 7: country but obviously to mixed martial arts. So anything we

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Speaker 7: can do to keep your name in the space, and

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you still taking our calls at Brian stan

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Speaker 7: on Instagram. He's not on Twitter that much on x anymore, folks, incidentally,

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Speaker 7: so find him on Instagram.

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Speaker 8: Fought him on Instagram.

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Speaker 7: But hey, best of luck with everything you got going on,

1304
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Speaker 7: my man, And I just want to let you know

1305
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Speaker 7: real quick. So, Michael Laplant took me to see Roosevelt

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Speaker 7: in Brooklyn, New York at Brooklyn Steel last week. And

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Speaker 7: I'm just letting you know. I'm sure that you and

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Speaker 7: Michelle are busy, but this this Wednesday night, November fifteenth,

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Speaker 7: Roosevelt is in Atlanta, Georgia. So just at the very

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Speaker 7: least look him up. And if you're looking to do

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Speaker 7: something this Wednesday night, you do worse than seeing Roosevelt

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Speaker 7: in concert.

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Speaker 6: Okay, right, thank you so much, Fellows. I appreciate great ya.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy. There he is the great. Brian stand

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Speaker 7: with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So yeah,

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01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 7: so Lappie took me to see Roosevelt. You know, I'm

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 7: not much of a concert guy, especially during pay per

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Speaker 7: view weeks, but Roosevelt fucking.

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Speaker 8: Banging it out, man.

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Speaker 7: And Tuesday, November fourteenth, can flow Charleston, South Carolina. He's

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Speaker 7: performing three hours and thirteen minutes from your front door.

1322
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 7: I think it's a little much to go six hours

1323
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 7: in the car, but Roosevelt absolutely outstanding. And good stuff

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 7: there from Brian Stan. We will bring Brian Petrie into

1325
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Speaker 7: the conversation in a few minutes here as we continue

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Speaker 7: on UFC two ninety five. But I feel like we

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01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 7: sure changed Tommy aspen All a little bit. We're not

1328
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 7: going to have time to dive too far into the

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01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 7: honey badger stuff today, but rest assured that was his

1330
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 7: idea and not mine. If you're out there, But as

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 7: this heavyweight division progresses forward, we have to just gus

1332
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 7: the now undeniably muddy waters we have in this heavyweight division. Thankfully,

1333
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 7: John Jones went right into surgery, but it does appear

1334
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 7: as though they are going to make every exhaustive effort

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Speaker 7: to preserve the fight between John Jones and Steve A. Miatchich,

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Speaker 7: and that really puts tom Aspinall in a position where

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Speaker 7: he's going to have to defend his belt against somebody

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Speaker 7: like sieedle Gon and Kenny. I don't think you can

1339
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 7: have two undisputed heavyweight champions right because they're in lies

1340
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 7: the dispute, and you really can't have a guy defending

1341
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 7: a UFC interim heavyweight championship right. So I honestly think

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 7: the only solution might be to shelve tom Aspinall for

1343
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 7: a full year, right, which would then be putting the

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 7: onus on John Jones and step A that John Jones,

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Speaker 7: in theory as the prohibited betting favor, wins that fight

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 7: and say July and then turns around and fights tom

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Speaker 7: Aspinall December of twenty twenty four, or vacates the throne

1348
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Speaker 7: and he can have tom Aspinall compete in August September

1349
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 8: Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 7: Tom Aspinall just became a superstar this past week and

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 7: you're not trying to shelve the guy for a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I think.

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Speaker 9: Overall, these are good problems to have. If you're trying

1355
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 9: to put together another fight in the future, you risk

1356
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 9: a lot of different things. I also think that you

1357
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 9: know who knows John Jones and Steve A. Mitchell's and

1358
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 9: that fight may not happen. You know, Steve A, he

1359
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 9: hasn't fought in a long time, he's a little bit older.

1360
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Speaker 9: John Jones has a peck that was torn off the bone.

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Speaker 9: These are things that take a long time. And I

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 9: don't know is Steve A gonna is stepe A gonna

1363
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 9: wait around. Is he gonna be healthy, Is John Jones

1364
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Speaker 9: gonna be healthy? Is Aspcall gonna be healthy throughout that

1365
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 9: whole for I don't know. It's it's difficult. But what

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Speaker 9: you do have at the end of the day, John,

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Speaker 9: I guess, are options, and I think that what you

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 9: can do is, at least in the meantime, if John

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01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 9: Jones and Steve is going to be put on the

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Speaker 9: back burner, or if that is uncertain, then you can

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Speaker 9: kind of mix and match a little bit, or you know,

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Speaker 9: just kind of have Aspenall as the new champ, you know,

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Speaker 9: depending on what happens with with with Joan.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it gets a little tricky, there no

1375
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: question about it.

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Speaker 7: So Tom Aspinall has suggested a fight an eliminator between

1377
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 7: Seedle Goan and Ji Yilton Almeta. I think that makes

1378
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 7: a lot of sense. It's just really interesting and if anyone,

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Speaker 7: as I said on the Post show, is able to

1380
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 7: unmuddy the muddy waters, it is the UFC. But I

1381
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 7: do think Kenny, you're probably gonna put yourself in a

1382
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 7: position here where where Tom Aspinall is going to have

1383
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 7: to sit for a little bit.

1384
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 9: Yeah, most likely you know, I don't think that's that's

1385
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 9: a major problem really. Obviously, he's got a back injury

1386
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 9: that he needs to heal up. For him, I would

1387
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 9: highly suggest and highly recommend that he goes out and

1388
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 9: tries to rectify that thing, because that is going to

1389
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 9: be his biggest challenge moving forward. As someone who experienced

1390
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 9: it for the majority of his UFC career, I just

1391
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 9: would go back into training and redo it all over again.

1392
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 9: He needs to get healthy, you know, build up his base,

1393
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 9: build up his body, get several experts in there to

1394
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 9: make sure that back injury doesn't reveal itself again.

1395
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Speaker 1: So I think it gives him time to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 7: John, all right, I want to go three wide as

1398
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: we continue our UFC two ninety five recap here and

1399
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 7: and call on the capable mind of Brian Petrie BP Ansom.

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Speaker 1: How we don't I am good boys?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 8: All right?

1403
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 4: So?

1404
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 7: I got a lot of things I want to discuss

1405
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 7: with you boys, So let's try to be as efficient

1406
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 7: as possible, because there's so many things I want to

1407
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 7: hammer on UFC two ninety five and we do have.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 7: How about me making you guys make seven selections for

1409
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 7: UFC fight night, Alan versus Craig.

1410
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: I love that.

1411
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 8: Huh you like that?

1412
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 4: Kenny?

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01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: Are these guys again?

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01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 7: So, Brian, I want to start with you on on

1415
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 7: Alex Padata real quickly if I could, and as we

1416
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 7: spin it forward, right and certainly if you want to

1417
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 7: sound off a little bit on the performance, right, But

1418
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 7: another muddy water here. Jamal Hill is on the men

1419
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 7: and that's really what I think lot at the core

1420
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 7: of why Alex Padata was trying to lay the foundation

1421
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 7: for a fight against Israel Lota Sonya. Certainly Anthony Smith

1422
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 7: makes sense, right, he's off a win. There's some friction there,

1423
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 7: even if he's number seven in the world. Nikita Krilov

1424
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 7: probably makes a little bit less sense than Anthony lyonheart Smith,

1425
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 7: I just don't know that Alex Paeda is gonna sit

1426
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 7: around for nine months. And Jamal Hill right now is

1427
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 7: in the rehab not training phase. So your thoughts about

1428
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 7: our new light heavyweight champion and how you unmuddy those waters.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first off, the guy is doing something that

1430
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 3: not many people can do. I mean, what he's doing

1431
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: is unbelievable. I can't believe I picked against him. I mean,

1432
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: what he is special he is just a special him

1433
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: being as far as the muddy waters, yeah, it is

1434
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: a little muddy because he said I want to be active.

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: He wants Adasani to come up. He's saying Sonia is

1436
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: too talented to sit on sidelines. That's probably not gonna

1437
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: happen yet, yam Belhovich calling him out, which is very

1438
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: uncharacteristic of jan Johan was tweeted at and stuff. And

1439
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: then you got aunt Caliath who has that unfinished business

1440
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 3: with Johnny Walker. And because I thought ant Calive would

1441
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: be the next up. So you're right, there's a little

1442
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: muddy water there. I know Chaille was pitching Anthony Smith

1443
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: on the post show or the on the table on

1444
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 3: the desk, and Anthony Smith just to me, he doesn't earn.

1445
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 3: He's one to two in his last three. I know

1446
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: he's a name, but I feel like given Anthony Smith,

1447
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: the shot would be like, let's keep this guy busy,

1448
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: and maybe that's what they need to do, because you're right,

1449
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: there isn't a I mean, we want to see Jamal

1450
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: Hill there, but Jamal Hill is still a little bit

1451
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: ways away. And I would if I had the answers

1452
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 3: to unmuddy this, I think I have a job at

1453
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: the UFC. It's stuff, man, It's a tough situation to

1454
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: deal with. But I think Prayer wants to be active,

1455
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 3: and I think you just give him whoever he wants.

1456
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: You let him pick, you know what I mean? Here

1457
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: we got three guys, who do you want? I think

1458
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: that's what.

1459
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 7: You do, Kenny, I don't know if you have anything

1460
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 7: on that. I would just interject into the conversation. All

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Speaker 7: Alex Paaneta, however green he is, as forrest m Martial

1462
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 7: Arts is concerned, Just think about the amount of hours

1463
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 7: that this man has had in the training room with

1464
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 7: Glover to share willingly, just putting himself through the trenches,

1465
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 7: through all these training camps over these two years, all

1466
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 7: of the value that he has gained from being in

1467
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Speaker 7: these big time championship fights. Jamal Hill, I believe is

1468
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 7: the best athlete of all of these light heavyweights. I

1469
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 7: think he's a much better pure athlete than Uri Prohaska,

1470
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Speaker 7: than Alex Paeda. But while Jamal Hill remains on the

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Speaker 7: mend and with respect plays basketball games with our producer

1472
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Speaker 7: and my twin brother, Alex Paeda is grappling and wrestling

1473
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 7: like a motherfucker. Yeah, I hope, so you know that

1474
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 7: that should be the plan. I'm not sure he wants

1475
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 7: to stay busy. I think he wants he would like

1476
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 7: to stay busy against people who are going.

1477
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Speaker 1: To be big fights market.

1478
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think, right, I mean otherwise,

1479
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 9: I mean he's calling out Israel Asanya for a reason.

1480
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 9: Israel Asanyia is not a two hundred and five pounder, right.

1481
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 9: He wants big names, he wants big fights.

1482
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1483
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I think that more than anything else, he

1484
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 9: wants to get that big fight that a lot of

1485
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 9: people want to see, which is awesome. The problem is,

1486
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 9: I don't think we're gonna see it with Izzy for

1487
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 9: a while. But he's trying, you know. I think that

1488
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 9: if he can maybe go, hey, let's see if is

1489
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 9: he gets an itch in like six months, I'll be

1490
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 9: there waiting for him because it's a big fight for

1491
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 9: Izzy as well. You know, there's a big money fight.

1492
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 9: Is he is not the champ at one hundred and

1493
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,440
Speaker 9: eighty five pounds right now? Is he has the opportunity

1494
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 9: to walk around and around two point fifteen probably right

1495
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 9: now too.

1496
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, tricky, So we got this lightweight Mattous round

1497
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 7: Beetsky out of Poland, that's won like thirty seven fights

1498
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 7: in a row. He's built like a backyard shed, and

1499
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 7: spend all this time talking about the unranked Ben was

1500
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 7: sant Denis. But I think it stands to reason Ken

1501
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 7: Flow that round Betsky could be a real problem for

1502
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 7: some of these guys in the top fifteen as well.

1503
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: So before I get back to Ben, was sant Deny,

1504
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 7: what do you think about Matous round Beetsky. I mean,

1505
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 7: this dude could be a real problem if a little

1506
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 7: bit under sold.

1507
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 9: At this point, I was getting the shakes. I had

1508
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 9: a little PTSD. I thought I was looking at a

1509
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 9: reincarnation of Sean Shirk out there.

1510
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1511
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 9: I mean this guy he's just as he's a little

1512
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 9: ball of muscle, and he's a problem. He's fast, he

1513
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 9: can kick your legs out, he's got power on the feet.

1514
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 9: He'll put you on your back. He clearly can fight

1515
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 9: off of his back as well. He's good at taking

1516
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 9: the back.

1517
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a problem, man, He's a problem. I love

1518
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: the way he fights.

1519
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 9: He's exciting, he's out there to finish.

1520
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: I think he.

1521
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 9: Could pose a lot of problems for people, those kind

1522
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 9: of stocky guys, you know, are an issue not only

1523
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 9: on the feet, but were probably more so on the ground.

1524
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 9: So and this kid, he'll bring that fight to the ground.

1525
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 7: So yeah, a lot of fun to watch man, All right, now,

1526
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 7: let us get back to Ben was Santon a Brian Patriokay,

1527
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 7: so it's a little bit tough because we're all very

1528
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 7: close with Matt Ravola to have the type of conversation

1529
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 7: that I'm trying to have, right, So let's just start here.

1530
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 7: Who's a tougher fight for Islama Kashev, Dan Hooker or

1531
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 7: Ben was Santany. Who's a tougher fight for Islama Kashef

1532
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 7: Michael Chandler or Ben Wasntany. Perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself, right,

1533
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 7: who's a tougher fight for Islama Kashev? Rafael Fhazebra, Ben

1534
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 7: was Antony? A lot of people say, Man Fauzive's the

1535
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 7: fastest best striker in the division is definitely that fucking guy,

1536
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, I mean Cody thinks I'm just crazy.

1537
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 7: Cody will have to pick that up off the air, Okay, Okay,

1538
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 7: young Cody, Right, Yeah, you know what point I'm trying

1539
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 7: to make here for more reasons than one. I think

1540
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 7: Ben was antony is a real problem. I actually thought

1541
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 7: he was underpriced against Matt Fravola. Your thoughts on BSD.

1542
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he impressed me. I mean he hit that sweep

1543
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: on for Vola and I was like, oh shit, this

1544
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: guy's this guy's the real deal because Vola's heavy on

1545
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: top and Ben Wilson he's still a little green. I mean,

1546
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 3: people don't realize that he hasn't been doing this a

1547
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: long time, and he's really good and special. He's strong,

1548
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 3: he's big in there and and I'll see tough and

1549
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: durable in a complete wildman, which I love. Class act

1550
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: after the fight as well, which I which I appreciate

1551
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: it because before the fight there was some you know,

1552
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 3: he walked out with that mean mug and sticking his

1553
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: tongue on ship. After the fight, that's where you go

1554
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: first class. Yeah, I mean, listen, I love Steamroll, I

1555
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 3: love math for ale. I thought Vola could catch him

1556
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: in this fight, but Ben Wall came out and again

1557
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 3: this is just another level of him improving himself. You know,

1558
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: he got taken down, he layd in a sweep, got

1559
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 3: taking the guy, and again it worked his way up

1560
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: land in the head kick off a break where Vivola

1561
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: wasn't expecting that. These are all new things we've seen

1562
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: of him, and he's staying active and he's finishing people.

1563
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: This guy is a finisher, he said in the post.

1564
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: He's a finisher. Now put him in there with this

1565
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 3: arm is a little scary. I mean, I think Chandler

1566
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: maybe have a heads up on him, becau Chandler's wrestling

1567
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: is phenomenal. But yeah, I mean I get your point,

1568
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: and maybe a year or two, this guy is gonna

1569
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: be a real and he still is now, but I'm saying, like,

1570
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 3: give him a couple more wins and if he's finished

1571
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: in these top top dudes, look out. I mean, this

1572
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 3: guy's this guy could be it.

1573
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1574
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 9: I think he I think is a fair could fighter,

1575
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 9: no question about it. I think that he's the problem

1576
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 9: is he's in a division that is absolutely loaded with talent,

1577
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 9: and I think he's a little bit short on talent.

1578
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 9: That does not mean he can't be a champion, right.

1579
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 9: I just think that if you're comparing his level of

1580
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 9: athleticism and also the amount of training that.

1581
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: He's able to get right, it's like he's in France.

1582
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 9: He's not an American top team, you know, and I

1583
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 9: think that those two things are going to be hiccups

1584
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 9: for him moving forward. But as far as matchup stylistic

1585
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 9: matchups against islamahas chef, I think that's a very valid point.

1586
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 7: And it is certainly encouraging. As I said earlier that

1587
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 7: when ken Flow wonders aloud about some of those concerns,

1588
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 7: those are the type of conversations that we're having in

1589
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 7: our fighter meeting about getting those training partners and making

1590
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 7: the investment to get the right guys there. Because I

1591
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 7: just believe in terms of the mental and the overall

1592
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 7: aspirations and.

1593
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 8: The commitment, this dude's gonna be it.

1594
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 7: Do everything in his power to bridge that talent gap

1595
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 7: over the next two years, and we'll see how it goes.

1596
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 7: Very excited about his particular future, ken Flow, you went

1597
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 7: five and one. You've been absolutely crushing it over the

1598
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 7: last month. You went five and one at UFC two

1599
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 7: ninety five plus eight hundred and sixty four dollars. A

1600
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 7: lot of that was rooted in a five unit play

1601
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 7: on Diego Lopez, who miraculously closed at plus money. Despite

1602
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 7: of the fact that you guys had a combined nine

1603
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 7: units on him. Right, he was plus one ten on

1604
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 7: the show, still was I think plus one oh two

1605
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 7: at closed against the very talented grappler Pat Sabatini. But dude,

1606
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 7: this guy Diego Lopez, right, like, no matter what happens

1607
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 7: over the last two months, Francisco Grosso is my coach

1608
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 7: of the year here on the Anakin Florian podcast, right,

1609
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 7: turning these grapplers into like high level strikers. What'd you

1610
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 7: make of Diego Lopez over those ninety seconds against Pat Sabatini, Kid.

1611
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 9: Kid's a stud. I think that's why Brian and I

1612
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 9: were so high on him. I think that he does

1613
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 9: a lot of things well, and he's a finisher through

1614
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 9: and through. Sabatini is a very good grappler, but I

1615
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 9: didn't know if he was going to have an edge

1616
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 9: there against Lopez. So when you have that level of

1617
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 9: finishing a and you're that good on the feeding on

1618
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 9: the ground and you're big for the weight class, I mean, dude,

1619
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 9: he's got so much going for him and just continues

1620
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 9: with this momentum.

1621
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: He's definitely someone to watch in that division. He's a problem, dude.

1622
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 7: I guess, uh like, who is it? It's my friend

1623
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 7: Hayden Iverson. I believe Haygi picks on Instagram? Who uh

1624
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 7: who calls him emo kid? And it just gets me

1625
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 7: crying every time. But he's such a sweet kid, like

1626
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 7: I absolutely love him and uh, I almost get a

1627
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 7: little bit emotional talking about his success because, as I

1628
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 7: said on the broadcast, brouh, like he was knocking on

1629
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 7: the door for so long, right, Like the dude had

1630
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 7: like almost twenty wins and lost on the Contender series,

1631
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 7: then lost his next fight, and so now to see

1632
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 7: him realize this and look like he's on a trajectory

1633
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 7: to financial freedom, if not a world title, pretty fucking cool.

1634
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's fighting like it. He's fighting like I

1635
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: know what it's like to be on the outside and

1636
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 3: wanting to be in. Now I'm here, I'm putting on

1637
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 3: exciting fights and I'm letting it go. And I don't

1638
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: think think you're ever going to see a boring fight

1639
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: from him. If there's ever a boring fight from Diego Lopez,

1640
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 3: I would cut my hair like Diego Uppez. Okay, I

1641
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 3: kind of want to do it anyway, wife said, No,

1642
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 3: the kid's a stud. He's just stud He's good everywhere.

1643
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: He's good off his back, he's good on top. And

1644
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 3: I saw him knocking out Sabatina. He's good on the feet.

1645
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: It's not the cleanest in the world, but he goes

1646
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 3: for it and sabatin he's hit able and has been

1647
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 3: put down before. And that's kind of how I saw

1648
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: the path of victory. But I love watching this kid.

1649
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see him more. I mean, he's

1650
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 3: calling out the right people too. He called out Brice Mitchell.

1651
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: I mean that could be a main event next year,

1652
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: a fight night somewhere. I'd be a great fight all right.

1653
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 7: Well, it was a memorable night at Madison Square Garden.

1654
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 7: Congratulations to all the other winners as well. Steve ver

1655
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 7: seg Lupi go Dinez, Jared Gordon with a big knockout

1656
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 7: of MSG, Jamal Emers and everybody else. Big big things

1657
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 7: at the world's most famous arena. But we got to

1658
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,440
Speaker 7: spend it forward as UFC Fight Night, Alan versus Claig

1659
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 7: live from the UFC Apex this Saturday night. Both of

1660
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 7: you guys had outstanding weeks in the black. We will

1661
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 7: try to keep it going here. Seven selections for our

1662
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 7: viewers and listeners here on the DraftKings Network in the

1663
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 7: DraftKings YouTube channel as well. First pick for us is

1664
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 7: going to be the featured prelimit featherweight because this fight

1665
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 7: is just outstanding Brian Jonathan Pierce minus one thirty. Joe

1666
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 7: Anderson Brito is plus one ten. So the meat of

1667
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 7: our program is picking fights. I mean, that's why we're

1668
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 7: picking seven. But how could I leave this one off?

1669
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 7: Jonathan Pierce has won nine of ten fights. He had

1670
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 7: that setback against Joe los On in twenty nineteen, maybe

1671
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 7: a showcase fight for him, and came up a little

1672
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 7: bit short, got finished, but he's won five in a

1673
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 7: row since, making his first start of the year here

1674
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,480
Speaker 7: against Joe Anderson Brito.

1675
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 8: Brian, who do you love? Who do you love?

1676
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: I know we're coming off one of the best cards

1677
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: of the year. Let's not sleep on this cardboards top

1678
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: to bottom. There is some real bangers. This is one

1679
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: of them. I'm glad we're picking this fight. You are

1680
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: high on Jasp, You're eye on Piers. You talk about

1681
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 3: him when he wins and he dominating looks good. He

1682
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 3: left a sour taste in my mouth. Lows on debut

1683
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: The Low's on debut on Mike and I can't get

1684
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 3: past that. And what has he done. He's ridded off

1685
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 3: five wins, look dominant, he's finishing guys very tough out

1686
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: Cardio one point, grappling on point, top pressure on point.

1687
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: But he's running into a fucking buzz saw. He's running

1688
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 3: into Brito, who is a hammer right. This guy is technical,

1689
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 3: he's powerful, he's wild. Those are all three things that

1690
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: you can't say people are, but he is. He's good

1691
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 3: on the ground. He lands more takedowns than he gets

1692
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: takedowns land on him. That's where Pierce is gonna have

1693
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 3: to land takedowns. He's also six foot tall, getting underneath

1694
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: under Brito's gonna be tough for Pierce unless he body

1695
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: locks him, takes them down low price on Pierce. So

1696
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there early on MMA Twitter

1697
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 3: like Pierce, and I can see why. But I'm gonna

1698
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 3: go the dog. I'm gonna go Brito here. I think

1699
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: he knocks him out. I think he catches Pierce. I

1700
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 3: think Pierce's is I want to see him fight a

1701
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: little bit more. But other than that, I think he's

1702
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: a stubb. But I just I gotta go with the

1703
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: dog here.

1704
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 7: Campflow Brito three on one of the UFC, coming off

1705
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 7: a big knockout of Weston Wilson in July.

1706
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 8: Third stoppage win for him.

1707
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 7: Also got Andre Peeley last year in a forty one

1708
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 7: second TKO that produced a bonus Your thoughts on him

1709
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 7: here underdog against Jonathan Pierce.

1710
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that the.

1711
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 9: Big difference here for me is the fact that, you know,

1712
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,480
Speaker 9: Brito is just extremely explosive.

1713
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: If there's going to be a finish, I'd probably be

1714
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: leaning that way.

1715
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 9: And That's just the thing that stands out when I'm

1716
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 9: looking at both these guys and analyzing their games. For me,

1717
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 9: Brito's the more dangerous guy. He's also the underdog, so

1718
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 9: I like him as well.

1719
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 8: Hey you all right?

1720
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 7: Main card ESPN plus in the welterweight division and following

1721
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 7: a monumental win his last time out, enter the doctor

1722
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 7: Udo Schmeditch Monus two thirty taken on Johnny Parsons Project

1723
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 7: Parsons plus one ninety Metich stopped Matthew Semmelsberger emphatically at

1724
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 7: UFC two ninety one in July. What a huge win

1725
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 7: for the somewhat undersized Udo Schmeditch at one hundred and

1726
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 7: seventy pound. Only UFC loss came against Jalen Turner. Now

1727
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 7: he draws the slugger, not Johnny Parsons bride who has

1728
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 7: won six in a row.

1729
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 8: Who do you have?

1730
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: Man?

1731
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 3: I love Johnny Parsons. He's got that. He's got that

1732
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 3: Kentucky waterfall. I love talking about the slugger. Not this guy.

1733
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't give a fuck. He's got a good mooy tie base.

1734
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: He gets in there, he slangs and bangs. You watch

1735
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 3: any of his fights before the UFC. He's dynamic on

1736
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: the mic as well. He'll cut a promo rate in

1737
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 3: your fucking face. I like this guy, right, he's he's

1738
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 3: he's he's a good stand up fighter. Trains out of Vegas.

1739
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 3: People in that Vegas gym love him, they rave about him.

1740
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: But he's running to a guy I was high on

1741
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: and I'm still high on him. I know a lot

1742
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 3: of people kind of got off the train when he

1743
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: lost to Jalen Turner. That's fucking Jalen Turner. Mattich Is

1744
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 3: is a real deal, good striker, well rounded. Can Land

1745
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: takedowns himself Cardia one point. He fought a big boy

1746
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: in Matthew Seldensberger, Matthem Selzberger, tremendous athlete, big heavy power puncher,

1747
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 3: and it was a fuck fight, a night contender and

1748
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 3: maybe he did one funnight. I don't know if check

1749
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 3: my facts, but knocked him out and that impressed me.

1750
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: He is sharp. Minus two thirty to me when I

1751
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 3: first saw him. Might be a little too high because

1752
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 3: I love the saga, not I love Johnny Parsons. I

1753
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: don't bet against mullets, It's part of my system, but

1754
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: I think menag his head and shoulders better everywhere. I

1755
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 3: think he's gonna go out there. Don't know if we'll

1756
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: get a finish because Parsons is a legit tough dude,

1757
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: but I think Medics is gonna style on him for sure.

1758
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 8: Kenny.

1759
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 7: Contractually, I can't bet on fights, nor can I predict fights,

1760
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 7: but I still think like an MMA handicapper and a gambler.

1761
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 7: So there have been two recent performances that have made

1762
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 7: me think, all right, remind me to not fade that

1763
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 7: guy in his next fight. It was Udo Shmeditch and

1764
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 7: then Brad Katona. Guys, I'm telling you, like Brad is

1765
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 7: just gonna be a real fucking nuisance for whoever he fights.

1766
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 7: So with that thought can flow udoshmeititic the minus two

1767
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 7: thirty favorite here Johnny Parsons plus one ninety.

1768
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: Who do you have? Yeah, I think Brian's on it.

1769
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: Parsons is really tough.

1770
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 9: He's got some good knockout power, He's feisty, he's gonna

1771
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 9: be in your face. So I think he's interesting as

1772
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 9: an underdog. You're right, John Medich, it's hard to go

1773
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 9: against him. The big thing here is the fact that

1774
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 9: he's big.

1775
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: He's got a lot.

1776
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 9: He's gonna have a huge range advantage against Parsons. So

1777
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 9: you know, I think Parsons would be interesting if they

1778
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 9: were but right around the same size. I would say, hey,

1779
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 9: you know what, maybe Parsons does an underdog. But when

1780
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 9: you have a guy who could strike like that like Meditch,

1781
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 9: and he's got that kind of length in size advantage, ah,

1782
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 9: it's gonna be It's gonna be a long night, I

1783
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,799
Speaker 9: think for Parsons if he's able to survive all fifteen minutes.

1784
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 7: Medich, the former lightweight not having a cut weight too anymore.

1785
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 7: He really is enjoying not having to do that for

1786
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 7: whatever it's worth. O. Right next, up at strawwaight Amanda

1787
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 7: Hebas Mattus two fifty eight. Right now in Draft Kings sportsbook,

1788
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 7: Lawana Panero is plus two ten, so Hebos interesting story here.

1789
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 7: Bry won four in a row to begin her UFC run.

1790
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 7: Now she's alternated wins and losses spanning her last five,

1791
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 7: and she was in that particularly bloody affair with Macy

1792
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 7: Barber last time out in Jacksonville. Now she draws Lauana Piniero,

1793
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 7: number nine in the world, took a split from Michelle

1794
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 7: Watterson Gomez in a competitive fight back in April in Miami.

1795
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 7: He bost the favorite, Pinero the dog bride. Which way

1796
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 7: you're going here?

1797
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 3: I was surprised to see me excuse me, many Hebos

1798
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: is the favorite here because of what she's gone through.

1799
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 3: But I think she's really talented. I mean, her biggest

1800
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: issue is a little bit of durability. The durability is

1801
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 3: gonna be coming a question, but I don't think that's

1802
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: gonna be much of an issue against Preaniera here. Paneeria's

1803
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 3: got a knockout on the contenent series. But other than that,

1804
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: she's a little just kind of like she fights her style,

1805
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: fight her pace, is not a ton of volume. She

1806
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,440
Speaker 3: doesn't dive at legs much. Len a couple of takedowns,

1807
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 3: but she wins. I thought she actually lost to Michelle

1808
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: Watterson Gomez, but you know that doesn't matter what. I

1809
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: think she actually got to w here. But I think

1810
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 3: he Boss is kind of better everywhere unless she just

1811
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: lays flat on her back and can't get up. I

1812
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: think he Boss wins this fight, I really do. I

1813
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: think she's gonna stay away. I think the talent's there.

1814
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 3: We need a confidence builder, you know, maybe Hebos needs

1815
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: to get back. She needs to win. She need get

1816
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: confidence back because she's still a great fighter to root

1817
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 3: for it and a great fighter to watch. So give

1818
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: me Amanda Heabs because I nail that name. Thank you, Kenny,

1819
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 3: and I'll take her as a w here.

1820
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 7: Cancelo Hebos minus two fifty eight, Panero plus two ten?

1821
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 8: Which way going?

1822
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 9: That's cadda interesting five, that's go ahead. I think very

1823
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 9: very interesting fight here.

1824
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: They both come from that judo background, right.

1825
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 9: I think Pinero has accomplished more in her judo if

1826
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken, So I think that could come into

1827
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 9: play here. I think that she's one of the few

1828
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 9: people that could potentially put Hebos on her back and

1829
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 9: keep her there. As far as striking goes, both are learning,

1830
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 9: both are getting better. Hebos is probably a little bit

1831
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 9: further ahead. Perhaps Pinero hits with a little bit more power.

1832
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 9: And you know, Brian talked about it. I'm a little

1833
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 9: concerned with Heboss and the kind of fight that she's

1834
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 9: been in over the last couple of years. I'm I

1835
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 9: wonder how durable she is. I mean, it's not helping,

1836
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 9: it's not making her more.

1837
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: Durable being a part of those fights. You know, that's

1838
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: not gonna help.

1839
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 9: So I don't know, I think that And you know,

1840
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 9: her coming off that loss, I think is going to

1841
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 9: be tough on the confidence. Her having to battle back

1842
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 9: against someone that she knows is going to be very tough,

1843
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 9: if not much better than her when it comes to

1844
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 9: the takedown game, and of course this is MMA, right,

1845
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 9: It's how you use your skills for mixed martial arts.

1846
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 9: But I think Pinero has some nasty takedowns, dude, Like

1847
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 9: whether it's you know, FROs or trips, She's going to be.

1848
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 1: A problem for Heatboss.

1849
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 9: And if the one thing that you typically have as

1850
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 9: an advantage over most people. Is something that you know

1851
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 9: is a disadvantage against this particular fighter that can mess

1852
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 9: with your head a little bit.

1853
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: And I think that might do that.

1854
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 9: And the fact that you know you have Pinero here

1855
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 9: at plus two ten at this stage of the game

1856
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 9: we're at with odds, give me Pinero.

1857
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: I think there's value there.

1858
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 7: You laid out a nice case, so you're telling me

1859
01:25:53,560 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 7: that eating lunch boxes from Macy Barbers can improve Good

1860
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 7: to know?

1861
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 8: All right?

1862
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 7: Bandam wait division the undefeated Peyton Talbot minus five fifty

1863
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 7: as he makes his UFC debut against Nick Aggiar, who

1864
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 7: is plus four to ten. Talbot kid at of Nevada,

1865
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 7: coming off season seven of the Contender series. Aggiar, former

1866
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 7: D two wrestler out of McKendree University, trains under my

1867
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 7: friend the Great Mike Valley there in Chicago. His UFC

1868
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 7: debut Bride was back in January against Dan Argetta, lost

1869
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 7: the unanimous decision. He spins it forward here, pretty big spread, Bride,

1870
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 7: which way you going?

1871
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: Kid?

1872
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: A tough tough line here.

1873
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 4: I mean.

1874
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Peyton Talbot's an interesting dude. He's a type of dude

1875
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: that's gonna like if they ask him who his favorite athlete.

1876
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 3: Is he like it's me right, like this dude like

1877
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: he's he likes himself right, and he's good. He's very good,

1878
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: coming the contended series, striker good, Cardio good on point,

1879
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 3: trying to work on the takedown, the fence. He's an

1880
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: educated kid. You know, I'm gonna eat the number here

1881
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: because I think he's good. How do you pronounce this?

1882
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 3: Thereary a ag yar? There you go agyar?

1883
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I think so, I'll pull it up as agi are.

1884
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 3: I think you know he looked good against in his debut,

1885
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: but he didn't show me anything in his fights outside.

1886
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 3: You just against?

1887
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 8: Did he freeze?

1888
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: Am?

1889
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: I frozen up?

1890
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 7: So you're back. You're back in a big way, all right?

1891
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 7: Like the Cincinnati Bengals los at home.

1892
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 3: Let's let's not do that. Joh, I'm gonna end this one.

1893
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Peyton Talbot. It's a big number. I

1894
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: eat the number. I think he's gonna win by knockout.

1895
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 7: Oh, it's a Geary fuck nick a Geary? All right, sorry,

1896
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 7: Mike Valley. Here I talk about my friend, the ever

1897
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 7: classy Mike Valley, and I say, Aggie are Nick Geary?

1898
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 7: Plus four ten? Peyton Talbot minus five five point fifty

1899
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 7: can flow talk to me?

1900
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't have had either of those pronunciations. Sorry, Yeah, listen.

1901
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 9: I think Talbot, with his striking is gonna be a

1902
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 9: big time problem. I think Geary has done some good

1903
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 9: things on the ground. I think that's probably his best

1904
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 9: best path to victory here, and of course a Geary

1905
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 9: trained by Mike Valley, a phenomenal coach. But I think

1906
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 9: think that Talbot, his size, his striking ability at this

1907
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,480
Speaker 9: stage of the game is going to be a huge advantage.

1908
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: So give me Talbot, Cody.

1909
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 7: If you and Jay could book Mike Valley on a

1910
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 7: future episode, that would be great. That's how I air

1911
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 7: our dirty laundry, all right. Next up featured about it

1912
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 7: Lightweight Chase Hooper monus two thirty Jordan Levitt plus one

1913
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 7: ninety So Hooper interesting case boys comes in following a

1914
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 7: win over Nick Fiori in May. It'll be his eighth

1915
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 7: UFC start already, He's twenty four years of age. He's

1916
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 7: won four of those, so pretty good so far, I

1917
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 7: think relative to expectations for Chase Hooper. Here he draws

1918
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 7: the monkey King Jordan Levitt, He's got four UFC wins

1919
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 7: as well, and in fewer starts, just six that includes

1920
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 7: a stoppage of Victor Martinez February twenty fifth. I kind

1921
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,799
Speaker 7: of like this matchup. Bryan Peacher will need a winner.

1922
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 7: Chase Hooper the favorite or Jordan Levitt the dog.

1923
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Great matchmaking. Both these guys are similar in a way.

1924
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 3: I guess you know, I've never picked either of these guys.

1925
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: I've been against them. I mean the whole time they've

1926
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 3: been in the UFC career. Chase Sooper the Steve Garcia

1927
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 3: fight really kind of like that was a really he

1928
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 3: got picked apart, but he rebounded.

1929
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: Well.

1930
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: He's a good he's a good scrambler. He's scrappy. He

1931
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 3: needs to add a little more size and know he's

1932
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 3: a young guy and stuff, but he's working on everything.

1933
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: I like his self deprecation. He's funny online. You know,

1934
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't take himself too seriously. They had

1935
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: Jordan Levit. He's twirking all over people. This guy's an

1936
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: interesting cat too. In the Clint, Jordan Levitt will will

1937
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: dominate this fight if they get to the Clint. That's

1938
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: how he won his last fight. Knees up to clinch

1939
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 3: He's got that man strength that I don't know quite

1940
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 3: know if Chase Hooper is ever gonna get at this point.

1941
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: But I like Cooper on the ground. I think he's

1942
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 3: kind of squirrely on the ground. And I saw Jordan

1943
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: Levin on the ground against Patty and he looked good

1944
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 3: for a little bit and then eventually he kind of

1945
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 3: just caved into some of that pressure. I think Chase

1946
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: Hooper on the ground is shifty and quick, and if

1947
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: Levitt keeps it there and stays there, which he likes

1948
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 3: to be on the ground, I think Chase Cooper is

1949
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 3: gonna win. So for the first time ever, I'm taking

1950
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Chase souper and he's a pretty good number here too,

1951
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 3: minus two thirty. So give me a give me Chase Sooper, Kenthl.

1952
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 8: What's so funny?

1953
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 1: Interesting? I just I can't get tworking all over people

1954
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: my head. I know, I love doing it.

1955
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 9: It's hilarious, Okay, So yeah, I think this is interesting.

1956
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 9: I think that Chase Hooper is developing as a striker.

1957
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 9: I don't think Jordan's the best striker in the world

1958
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 9: there either, so that kind of cancels each other out.

1959
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 1: Levitt I think hits a little harder.

1960
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 9: Hooper, you know, still kind of trying to develop that

1961
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 9: power and speed a little bit more with this striking,

1962
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 9: but like uses more long range weapons, so that could

1963
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 9: be a problem for Levitt getting on the inside. As

1964
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 9: far as takedowns wrestling, I think Levitt will be better

1965
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 9: there on the ground submission wise, Hooper a little bit better. However,

1966
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 9: the control of Levitt might be a problem for Hooper.

1967
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 9: I think that's where you can kind of negate someone

1968
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 9: who's at the level of Hooper with a submission game.

1969
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 9: You shut down submissions with position, and I think that's

1970
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 9: what Levitt needs to do here. And I'm willing to

1971
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 9: go with Levit here just because I do see value.

1972
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 9: I think there's enough value for me for Levit, so

1973
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 9: here at plus one ninety and uh yeah, let's go

1974
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 9: with Let's.

1975
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Go with him.

1976
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 7: Friend of the program, Big Ron Pellegrino always talks about

1977
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 7: ken flow, laying out a case for one guy and

1978
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 7: picking the other guy and just see, you guys know,

1979
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 7: Twice today I've tried to like get ahead of writing

1980
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 7: down Ken flipa always guessing Jordan Levin only twenty eight

1981
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 7: years of age, eleven and two four and two of

1982
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:22,799
Speaker 7: the UFC.

1983
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 8: It's a big spot for him here as the underdog.

1984
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 7: If he can win this fight Kenny, that would really

1985
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 7: propel him all right, comin event twenty four year old

1986
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 7: Ecuadorian Michael Morales monus two to seventy Jake Matthews plus

1987
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 7: two twenty By the way, Ken Flow's flight book for

1988
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 7: the World MMA Awards trying to present the awards together

1989
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 7: potentially out there, so Ken Flow is gonna be.

1990
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 8: Out there for a couple of days.

1991
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 7: Michael Morales monus two to seventy, Jake Matthews plus two

1992
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 7: twenty so Morales fifteen to Oh. You talk about some

1993
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 7: of these young guys like Gabriel bon Fieme who cannot

1994
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 7: preserve the O. Not an easy thing to do and

1995
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 7: maintain in the UFC. This man has done it through

1996
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 7: three fights and against pretty good competition. Trevin Giles, Adam Fugett,

1997
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 7: most recently mat S Griffin. Now I think Brian real

1998
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 7: good test against the eighteenth time UFC veteran Jake Matthews.

1999
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Who do you love?

2000
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: Michael Morales' backs like just a bag of ropes. I mean,

2001
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: this guy has built good right and his UFC career

2002
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 3: before before he came here. It was a week his

2003
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 3: record was weak. He's kind of had to grow in

2004
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 3: the promotion and he's done that and he's blown me

2005
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: away each fight. He's looking better and better. He's big

2006
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 3: as physical, he's got all the tools. He can take

2007
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 3: you down if he wants. He can beat you up

2008
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 3: on the feet. And Jake Matthews, guy used to root for.

2009
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Jake Matthew against Andre Field, what a performance.

2010
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: That's my guy, Jake Matthews.

2011
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 3: And then he lays kind of an egg against Selliensburger

2012
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: rebound it well. Jake Matthews inconsistency in the UFC. He

2013
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: was supposed to be the next big thing from Australia.

2014
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't supposed to be. I was gonna Bokanofski. Everyone

2015
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: will talking about Jake Matthews and I feel like he's

2016
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: come short just because of inconsistency. Kenny's over here being

2017
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 3: a fucking sharp picking dogs left and right. I'm square

2018
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 3: boy here, give me the square pick. And Michael Morales.

2019
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 3: I like Michael Morales a lot in this fight as well.

2020
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get a.

2021
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 7: Is So I feel like in a lit and I

2022
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 7: am not saying that you're doing that, but I feel

2023
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 7: like you're short changing Jake Matthews' career.

2024
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Just a little.

2025
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 8: You're right, all right, that he was a little bit anointed.

2026
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 7: But I guess I'm just a huge fan because Kenny

2027
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 7: and I met him when he was twenty years old,

2028
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 7: and that was when he made his UFC debut. Sou,

2029
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 7: he's twenty nine. Now he's already got twelve UFC wins.

2030
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 7: Kemflow has twelve UFC wins. By the way, if you're wondering,

2031
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 7: eighteen UFC fights for Jake Matthews, So twelve and six.

2032
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 7: Kenny has a better winning percentage obviously, but not terrible

2033
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 7: at twelve and six. Submitted Darius Flowers at UFCS.

2034
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 8: Why are you laughing?

2035
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: It's just because.

2036
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 3: An idea, That's why I'm laughing.

2037
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, I just Kenny.

2038
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 7: He was seven and oh twenty years of age when

2039
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 7: we called his UFC debut, and now he's twenty nine

2040
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 7: and a big spot for him here against Michael Morales.

2041
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 8: Ken Flow your thoughts, Ah.

2042
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 9: This one is tough for me for those reasons that

2043
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 9: you kind of pointed out.

2044
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: John.

2045
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 9: You know, I'm a big fan of Morales. I think

2046
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 9: that this as a limit for the kid. Physically, he

2047
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 9: is very, very impressive, and I don't know, he's just

2048
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 9: good all the way around, man, and really, you know,

2049
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 9: not perfect as far as his decision making, but it's

2050
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 9: pretty dang good for a kid who's that young. I

2051
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 9: certainly would have been able to wouldn't have been able

2052
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 9: to do a lot of the things he's done at

2053
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 9: that age, So I'm a big fan of his. However,

2054
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 9: I see a lot of value here with Matthews and

2055
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 9: couldn't agree more. I think matthews consistency has been a

2056
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 9: problem win loss, win loss. I wonder how much of

2057
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 9: that has to do with injuries, and I think that

2058
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 9: if Jake Matthews is at his best, he can give

2059
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 9: anybody a run for their money in that division. I

2060
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 9: think that against Morales this is where it gets interesting.

2061
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 9: Morales still early on in his career. I think Jake

2062
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,879
Speaker 9: Matthews needs to play the role of veteran. He cannot

2063
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 9: let Morales take control of the fight and get into rhythm.

2064
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 9: If that happens, this fight is over. However, I think

2065
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 9: there's enough value and skill with Jake Matthews to be

2066
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 9: able to get it done.

2067
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: I need points.

2068
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 9: Baby, I had a good last week, but Petri's just

2069
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 9: he's in the distance. I can I can't even see

2070
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 9: his kid lights. Okay, so I need some I need

2071
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 9: some value. Give me Jake Matthews here.

2072
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 7: I can't even have Jake Matthews and Nicholas to I'll

2073
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 7: be competing this close together, right, I just get them confused.

2074
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 7: Kenny is gonna lead us on the main event here today,

2075
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 7: and it features, at least in my opinion, one of

2076
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 7: the biggest threats to the world champion and the World

2077
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 7: championship at present, Brendan all and Allen minus three forty

2078
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 7: Paul bar Jew Craig plus two seventy so Brendan Allen.

2079
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 7: Kenny I think, at twenty seven years of age, still

2080
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 7: has a lot of developmental time, but really starting to

2081
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 7: come into his own, if not fighting prime. He's ten

2082
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 7: and ten and two in the UFC already five straight wins,

2083
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 7: three straight submissions have him on the cusp of a

2084
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 7: world title fight. First, though, he's got to get through

2085
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 7: relative divisional newcomer Paul Craig. Who do you have in

2086
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 7: the main event, Kenny Flord, Yeah.

2087
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 9: That's right, and Paul Craig, I think looked phenomenal in

2088
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 9: his last fight.

2089
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 1: It threw me off.

2090
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 9: It looked like I was looking at a completely different

2091
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 9: fighter on the feet. That was like the first time

2092
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 9: that I've seen him actually look like a striker previous fights.

2093
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 9: It looked like a guy who was using his striking

2094
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 9: to be able to get the fight to the ground,

2095
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,959
Speaker 9: not like at some point, but like as soon as possible.

2096
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 9: You know, there's points where he looks desperate during a fight.

2097
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 9: And Paul Craig, you know, at two hundred and five pounds,

2098
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 9: was inconsistent in his performances. At one five, he just

2099
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 9: looked awesome. So that's why this one's throwing me off

2100
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 9: a little bit. However, who's the better fighter who has

2101
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 9: proven himself against better competition at one hundred and eighty

2102
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 9: five pounds at this stage of the game, Well, it's

2103
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 9: Brendan Allen. I think that from a submission standpoint, he

2104
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 9: does need to be careful against someone like Paul Craig. Well,

2105
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 9: Craig is that dangerous. I know Brendan Allen is a

2106
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 9: good Brazilian jitsu black belt, but position wise he's gonna

2107
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,839
Speaker 9: have to be on point. He can't leave anything anything

2108
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 9: dangling out there. I also think he needs to be

2109
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 9: smart about getting in and getting out. He can't hang

2110
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 9: out in that tie clinch for too long. He's got

2111
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 9: to be able to land those strikes and get the

2112
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 9: heck out of there. If he's able to do that,

2113
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 9: I think he wins this fight. I am picking Brendan Allen.

2114
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 9: Let me put two units on Allen as well in

2115
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 9: this one. I'm a little nervous because Paul Craig looked

2116
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 9: phenomenal again, like I said in that last one, but

2117
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 9: I think Brendan Allen is someone who can fight for

2118
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 9: the belt in the future.

2119
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: So give me out.

2120
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2121
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 7: What a stoppage win for Paul bar jew Kraig repping

2122
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 7: Scotland in stopping Andre moon Niz in his divisional debut,

2123
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 7: but now stepping into a main event in a pretty

2124
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 7: big underdog here, Brian patriotill need a selection.

2125
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back for just a second. I do

2126
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: I do not want to disrespect Jake Matthews. Maybe I was.

2127
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 3: I did short change them a little bit. I just

2128
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 3: mean he needs to maybe get one signature win, which

2129
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't have yet. That's all I'm saying. Because there's

2130
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 3: a couple of times he fell short. I am a

2131
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 3: huge fan of Jake Matthew, so I didn't want to

2132
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 3: be disrespectful for him because I was keeping it a

2133
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 3: little short. Anyway, to the main event, Paul Craig looked

2134
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 3: fantastic at one eighty five. He fought at Mnez, is

2135
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 3: a great matchup for him. Physically, he looked great, but

2136
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 3: his stand up is just so bothersome to me. It's

2137
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's long, he's got the weapons. It's just

2138
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 3: so hirky jerky, and sometimes that works for guys, but

2139
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Speaker 3: there's not really any power there. He has power when

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Speaker 3: he gets on top and he ground and pounds you,

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Speaker 3: but on the feet there's just no real power there.

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Speaker 3: And Brendan Allen here's a guy I've doubted his whole

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Speaker 3: career basically, right. You know, he fought again Strickland loss,

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01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 3: he fought against Mike Chris Curtis loss, and all he

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01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,879
Speaker 3: does is just go out and win. He's a confident

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Speaker 3: young man. He beat Munez as well. And what I

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01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 3: like about Brandon Allen is he likes to He's so

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Speaker 3: confident and he's you know, he walks into a room

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Speaker 3: and he thinks he's the big dick swinging in the room,

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Speaker 3: which I love because that's what you need to be

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Speaker 3: right now. And he wants to fight. He's calling guys

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Speaker 3: out that maybe aren't close to him yet in the rankings,

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01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 3: but he goes, fuck it, no one fight him. I'll

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Speaker 3: fight him. I love that about this young man. And

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Speaker 3: what I like about him is his striking sets up

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01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 3: his grappling. And that's what he did with me Nez.

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Speaker 3: He didn't rush it to the ground. He beat him

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Speaker 3: up on the feet, took him to the ground and

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Speaker 3: submitted him, which no one saw. Paul Craig's been submitted

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Speaker 3: before in the third round against excuse me, Jimmy krup

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Speaker 3: By Kamora. He does a ton of grappling stuff. So

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Speaker 3: I see Brendon Allen being the guy that goes, you

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01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna beat up Paul Craign on the feet.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonnake him down, smit him. That's what I want

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Speaker 3: to do. I love Brendan Allen in this spot. I'm

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Speaker 3: all in on Brendan Allen. That's wordplay, boys, and give

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01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,480
Speaker 3: me five units on Brendon Allen. This is a bet

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Speaker 3: I had one of my better weekends last week, and

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Speaker 3: I've already took most of the winnings and put it

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Speaker 3: on Brendan Allen. This isn't just a five union play

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Speaker 3: for the show. This is a five union play in

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01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 3: real life. I love Brendan Allen in this spot, I'm

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01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 3: gonna play him a little bit as well. By finish,

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Speaker 3: I think he's either gonna TKM or submit him more

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01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 3: likely CKEO, but there could be a club and sub

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01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 3: in there as well. I'm all in.

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Speaker 9: I'm having to text the group chat for an additional

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Speaker 9: three units at some point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It seventeen hundred dollars on Brendan Allen for Brian Petrie

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01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 7: to win five hundred and yeah, I mean I think too.

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01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 7: In terms of contention, you have this era of Marvin

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01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 7: Vtories and Jared Canadiers. Brendan Allen is a real issue

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01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 7: on the ground for a division that has a lot

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Speaker 7: of decorated strikers. Brian, anything else on the board before

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01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 7: we let you fly.

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Speaker 1: Sir, uh No, that was it.

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Speaker 3: I kind of focused more most mostly on the main car.

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Speaker 3: No prelimp picks. You guys are the best. John. You

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Speaker 3: called a great show on Saturday. It was phenomenal and

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01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 3: uh yeah you guys awesome PFL starting backups soon. I'm

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Speaker 3: ready for boys, Let's do it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy, best to your wife, Erica and the

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01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 7: men from surgery is not too distant future.

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Speaker 3: Okay, brother, see you boys.

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Speaker 7: All right there he is Brian Petrie with us for

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Speaker 7: the main event challenge. All right, last thing. You may

2198
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 7: have seen some of this honey badger stuff during the week,

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01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 7: just to provide a little bit of clarity, and this

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01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 7: is all in good fun, of course. So we're in

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Speaker 7: the meeting and Tom aspinall is talking about how he

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01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 7: has a lot of fear and nerves but he fights

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01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 7: through that in the best of ways. How he's much

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01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 7: better in the fight than he is in the gym,

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01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 7: which I think is the case for a lot of fighters.

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Speaker 7: We hear about a lot of Jim warriors that are

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01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 7: great who don't necessarily translate it to the octaealm with

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01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 7: the bright lights. Tom Asmaal is the opposite of that.

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Speaker 7: And I guess I don't know, Kenny, You're a much

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01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 7: more well read guy than me, but I guess like

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01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 7: the lion is maybe an apex predator in a similar

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01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 7: way that the honey badger is like, they don't have

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01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 7: obvious predators. I don't know, but honey badgers are so

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01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 7: fearful that they do pretty well out in combat. So

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Speaker 7: Daniel Cormier in our Fighter meeting mentioned the honey badgers,

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01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,839
Speaker 7: this type of animal. So I'm hosting the press conference

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01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 7: for Dana White and Tom Aspinall says John, what was.

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01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 8: That honey badger thing?

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01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 7: So I explained it to Tom, at which time he says,

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01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 7: at the press conference, Yeah, I'm the honey Badger.

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01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 8: Moving forward.

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01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 7: So next morning, at the morning way, in the official

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01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 7: way and but not attended by fans or anything, I

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01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 7: say two hundred and sixty one point six pound, the

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01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 7: official weight for the honey Badger, Tom ask and he

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01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 7: looks over kind of smirks, and I still don't know

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01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 7: at this point if he's didn't.

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01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 8: I think he's totally fine with it.

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01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 7: In terms of me just saying that kind of tongue

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01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 7: in cheek, I never would have gone on stage at

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01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 7: the ceremonials and introduced him that way. So for purposes

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01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 7: of clarity, because I know TNT Sports is leaning into

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01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 7: it a little bit, so it's not his nickname. He

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01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 7: does not want that as a nickname, but in reference, yes,

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01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 7: he is honey badger like, albeit not the honey badger.

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01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 4: Moving forward.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: That's all there. It's funny.

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Speaker 9: Earlier in the week I posted a video and there

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Speaker 9: were three leopards. I think they might have been a

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01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 9: little bit younger, but the leopards, like I think, pound

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01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 9: for pound, are the strongest and best apex predator out

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01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 9: of the giant cats. So you had three leopards right

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01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 9: that were trying to go after a honey badger in

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01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 9: the wild. Three they got a hold of the neck,

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01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 9: like at least two of them got a hold of

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 9: the honey badger.

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01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: At some point they let go.

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Speaker 9: The honey badger goes right after that leopard, and the

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Speaker 9: other leopard gets it. He gets out and goes right

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01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 9: after the other leopard. The leopards didn't know what the

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01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 9: heck to do. They're like, what do I do.

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01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: Against this damn thing?

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01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again the legend of the honey badger can

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01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 9: take you. I love I love the analogy.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's awesome.

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01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 7: Those leopards getting fucking aspinalled by the goddamn all right,

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01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 7: we got to get on out of here, thank you.

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01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 7: To our guest, the greatest living American, Brian Stan, and

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Speaker 7: again at John Underscore annak. If he can find a

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01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 7: greater living American, there's probably somebody out there. For now,

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Speaker 7: it's Brian Stan, thanks to him, Thanks to Ray Longo,

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01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 7: thanks to Brian Petrie, our great producer Cody Merrow who

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01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 7: was with us helping out in New York City helping

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Speaker 7: out with Remember the Show on UFC Fight Pass.

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Speaker 8: We thank him.

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Speaker 7: Eternally extendedly for all of his efforts on the show

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Speaker 7: and the brand's behalf. Don't forget john an dot com

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Speaker 7: plenty more where that came from as well, and you

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Speaker 8: It's almost as good a follow.

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Speaker 7: As at Nate Diaz with that for Ken from John Anak.

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Speaker 7: Brandon Allen and Paul Craig. Until then, tell your friends

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Speaker 7: talk to you next week. Until then, yield it.

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Speaker 4: Are you sure we're doos? Yah?

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Speaker 10: Every time I thought at first I'll break at least

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01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 10: three commandment kind of like udo because I never planned it?

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Speaker 8: How'm I planned it?

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Speaker 4: There? Look?

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Speaker 1: Wait then make.

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Speaker 10: Campets look like the only branches the boy you ble.

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Speaker 4: The only color on the canvas, and.

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Speaker 1: Then I don't.

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Speaker 10: I mean it's like a how you can get god

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Speaker 10: being Tom hit Pot got it every time you walk

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Speaker 10: in the label the A and I'm like, no, the

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Speaker 10: community of ship because I suckle, circle guy got it

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01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 10: by the heat is a tactically gotta beat out on gods.

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01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 10: Your compact start to thinks like the climate, the speaking

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Speaker 10: speak elitiously off the high horse making ascid the use

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Speaker 10: your DJ must not.

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01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Know the alphabet forgetting this cute.

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Speaker 10: My favorite DJ got those in six extra help to

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01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 10: abuse as so temic John, he and not the nuclear stow.

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Speaker 10: I'm ready to ls, nice, touch, screech and show a

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Speaker 10: bust some mystyles. He gonna send your lego trip and

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Speaker 10: went frequent five miles.

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Speaker 5: A J wants to get to the bird and get

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Speaker 5: it of the burden Edinburgh making the god.

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Speaker 1: Either you want to speak of comments or a