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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, August eighth, the U of Our

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Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty one, jam packed as always, But here's

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Speaker 2: the difference. Three weeks have arrived. From now until to

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Speaker 2: be determined sometime in January. Three shows per week Sunday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Thursday Live eight Eastern, seventh Central, just as we are

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Speaker 2: right now. If you're watching or if you're listening to

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Speaker 2: replay tomorrow morning driving to work in Ocilla, Georgia, that's

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Speaker 2: because we don't put any filler in here. Everything that's

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Speaker 2: on the bone this time of year is going to

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Speaker 2: be meet, just as is the case tonight.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for joining.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you don't miss shows, Whispers and Intel coast

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Speaker 2: to coast tonight. Camps have opened pretty much everywhere, and

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Speaker 2: so we've got our ear to the ground. It's nice

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Speaker 2: that we have an entire network of team insiders, and

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Speaker 2: boy are we leveraging them. So we're going to take

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Speaker 2: you all over the place. Too many programs to name.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to specifically talk about Georgia tonight. Not the

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Speaker 2: Scott cochrane deal. I know that's been circulating on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: That's something that's been festering for several days now. It's

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Speaker 2: a personal deal. It's not going to negatively affect Georgia football,

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Speaker 2: but he's going to be away for a little while.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that tonight. I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: Georgia's offense this year because there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: mixed opinions out there, but what to expect from them

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Speaker 2: and see if you're a Minnesota fan or a Nebraska fan,

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Speaker 2: you may ask, what does that have to do with me, Well,

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Speaker 2: Georgia so go, the Bulldogs so goes a lot of

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Speaker 1: And access for teams in the Big twelve. So this

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Speaker 1: is a very important program to be watching this year.

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Speaker 2: The question is, are they going to flip that offensive

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Speaker 2: the SEC most recently LSU Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Who is Georgia gonna do that? We'll discuss that.

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Speaker 2: We will also discuss in great detail some great news

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Speaker 2: from Miami. Things are sounding a lot more positive for

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Speaker 2: the outlook of the Miami Hurricanes football program in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one than I think a lot of folks expected

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Speaker 2: them to look, let's say, four months ago, which is

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Speaker 2: another reminder, do not marry yourself to spring and or

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Speaker 2: preseason predictions, because things change. All of that's happening tonight.

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Speaker 2: We are going to give you the biggest questions in

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve tonight. We're gonna give you the biggest

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Speaker 2: questions in the ACC tonight, and Colin my word to you,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do all that in under an hour. As

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Speaker 2: I told you, whole lot of meat on the bone,

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Speaker 2: and as I told you, you cannot miss shows this

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Speaker 2: time of year. We've got grand season previews coming up.

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Speaker 2: The Rama Noodle Express is about to be back on

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Speaker 2: the tracks. As I told you, we're going three nights

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Speaker 2: a week now. The Pate State mascot will be unveiled

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Speaker 2: within the month before the season kicks off. We've got

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Speaker 2: We've got a jam packed month in a jam pack season,

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Speaker 2: tuned in, following on Twitter and Instagram. At Late Kick,

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Speaker 2: Josh and I wanted to touch on this before we

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Speaker 2: Florida State for many years, Bobby Boden. Today, this morning

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Speaker 2: without fail during the acclamation period. This period, before any

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Speaker 1: People want to know one question.

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Speaker 2: Really looking forward to this in case you can't already tell,

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Speaker 2: We know they're going to be right there on National

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Speaker 2: Eventually, they'll make some terrible call, or they won't have

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Speaker 2: a lot more revolutionary product offensively for Georgia. I wanted

437
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: to pause between the word revolutionary and the words offense

438
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: in Georgia because I really wanted to let them simmer

439
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 2: and sizzle there for a second. These are not words

440
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 2: that we've put in the same sentence very often. You

441
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 2: got two schools that thought out there about Georgia right now,

442
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 2: and there are extremes. You got one extreme over here,

443
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 2: which is the hashtag JT for Heisman crowd, and then

444
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: you got over here the far right, you got the

445
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: Kirby Gunna Kirby crowd, the truth as usual as somewhere

446
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 2: in the middle, but.

447
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: Which is closer to reality. Let's dive into this.

448
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 2: I want to tell you up front, I have little

449
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,959
Speaker 2: to no doubt that this Georgia coaching staff is fully

450
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 2: committed not to just dip in their toe in the

451
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: water of revolutionizing the offense. And that is the word

452
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm using, intentionally revolutionizing. I don't think they're dipping their

453
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: toe in. I think they're ready to totally dive in

454
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: to a revolutionary offensive concept this year, which is key

455
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 2: because I don't think they've ever been there.

456
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: Now.

457
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: It's partly because maybe the head coach there, Kirby Smart,

458
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: just philosophically felt like that was oil and water compared

459
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: to what he has believed in his whole life. Or

460
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 2: maybe it's because they didn't think they had the pieces,

461
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: or maybe a little bit of both.

462
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: But there are a few keys here. Obviously, JT.

463
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: Daniels is key number one, So you got to have

464
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 2: the right quarterback to run any kind of offense that

465
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: you want to. Key number two is they finally have

466
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: the depth and versatility at wide receiver to be able

467
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: to do what you were going to expect them to do,

468
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: what a revolutionary, more modernized offense would demand that you do.

469
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 2: But number three, and I would argue maybe even important

470
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Speaker 2: in the first two keys, is the coaching staff has

471
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: to be all in on this. They got to trust

472
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 2: that they've they've recruited the right pieces. And then they've

473
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: got to trust the concept that we can no longer

474
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: get by and achieve what we want to achieve by

475
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: doing what we've done. This is really easy to say

476
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: when you're sitting behind a microphone, is so much harder

477
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 2: to do in real life.

478
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: If you're Kirby Smart, you've been.

479
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: Brought up as a defensive guy first and foremost, and

480
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: then you were at Alabama for a long time, and

481
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: you watched them do it one way about the time

482
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: you hit the exit doors, about the time they started

483
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: changing things around there, So you were never really on

484
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: the inside of the Alabama bubble. When that framework had

485
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: been totally remastered, it had started, but it hadn't totally

486
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: been remastered.

487
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: Now it has, and that's just a machine over there.

488
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: I was doing The Dog's twenty four to seven podcast

489
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: the other day with Jake Row and we were talking

490
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: about how Alabama's all of a sudden become this standard

491
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: for wide receiver talent.

492
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Speaker 1: How high would people think you are if you said that.

493
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: Eight or nine years ago, when they may have had

494
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: one stud receiver and a lot of workmen, journeyman types,

495
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, the Nikita Stovers of the world, and all

496
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're sending four guys in the first

497
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: round over the span of two years. Well, that happened

498
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: obviously not overnight, but it feels like it happened overnight.

499
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: And if you know, if you've watched the sport just

500
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: over the last decade, even you've seen that shift. That's

501
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: the kind of shift they want to see at Georgia.

502
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: If you're a Georgia fan, that's the kind of shift

503
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: you want to see because rightfully understandably, so you look

504
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: over there and you say, if they're doing it, why

505
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: can't we do it. You're not about to tell me

506
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: we can't recruit similar athletes. You're not about to tell

507
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: me we're hurting for resources. We got everything that they have,

508
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: and so if we're lacking, the finger is going to

509
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: be pointed at the coaching staff. And I understand that,

510
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's fair. You invest fully, you expect

511
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: a return on your investment. But I think they were

512
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: ready last year, and this kind of bleeds into what

513
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: to expect this year and why I'm so confident you're

514
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: going to get what you want, or at least you're

515
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: gonna get a commitment to providing you what you want.

516
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: I think they were committed to it last year. I

517
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 2: think when Kirby Smart got pasted by LSU and the

518
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game in twenty nineteen, I think he looked

519
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: around at a healthy inventory of his program and realized

520
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: what we're doing is not good enough anymore. I've seen

521
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: the future, and I've seen it several times now. I've

522
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 2: played Bama, I've played LSU, I played Oklahoma, ended up

523
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: beating them, but still got a hearty taste of what

524
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: that kind of New Age offense is about.

525
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: And we're Georgia. It's not Georgia State.

526
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: We're not limited financially, we're not strapped for cash around here.

527
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: We got everything the.

528
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Big boys have, and so we get to choose what

529
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: kind of offense we run. Why not choose to run

530
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: the best we can get the best ingredients. Why don't

531
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: we make the best meal possible with these ingredients. I

532
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: think they were ready to do it last year. Fate

533
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: dealt them a hand that made it impossible. Part of

534
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: it was COVID. I think part of it was that

535
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: the roster was not ready, the quarterback position was not ready,

536
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: and even when JT. Daniels eventually played, he wasn't ready.

537
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I had a number of my buddies last year say,

538
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: you claim that you think they were committed to doing

539
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: this this year, but they had to scrap those plans.

540
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Well, now that JT.

541
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: Daniels is in, why don't they just why don't they

542
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: just reinsert that plan? Well, because it was an Xbox

543
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: You're you're not talking about minor changes. You're not talking

544
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: about inserting a couple of pages into a play, but

545
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: you're talking about a total philosophical shift.

546
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: Really, and you're.

547
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Asking them to do it in the middle of a

548
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: football season. That's not something you do on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays.

549
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: Staff your figures.

550
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: On Thursday, we're here, We're ready. That's not the way

551
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: that works.

552
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: But what can work is when you already got the

553
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: OC in the house with one year's benefit, and you've

554
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: already got the eventual quarterback in the house with one

555
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: year's benefit and a lot of the receiver talent now

556
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: is acclimated, and a lot of your personnel period is acclimated.

557
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: Now you get to go into twenty twenty one with

558
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: a full spring. You get to go in with a

559
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: full off summer conditioning program.

560
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: JT.

561
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: Daniels famously took a lot of these receivers out to

562
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: California because the ball just travels better in California, I'm told.

563
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: But it's about cohesiveness and building chemistry. We get all that,

564
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: But the number one pushback that you're gonna get, especially

565
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: down where I'm from in the South, if you were

566
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: to present this to the Kirby Gunner Kirby crowd, the

567
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: Kirby Gunner Kirby crowd is going to tell you, well,

568
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: J T. Daniels may not be all you think he is,

569
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna grant you this now.

570
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: A lot of these folks who.

571
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: Are listing him as the favorite, the odds on favorite

572
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: to win the Heisman, I don't have any problem admitting

573
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: to you someone touting J. T. Daniels as the presumptive

574
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: Heisman favorite in the preseason, I would advise to pump

575
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: the brakes. I don't have any problem telling you that.

576
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem granting you that he may

577
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: not live up to expectation. This is not some slam

578
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: dunk for me. What I do think is also probably

579
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: equally as possible, if not greater than equally as possible,

580
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: is maybe he's a lot more than you think he is.

581
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: And what this would tie into is, you know, Georgia

582
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: opened against Arkansas last year.

583
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: How did J. T. Daniels do in that game?

584
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything in that game because he was

585
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: not medically cleared to play. They played Bama a couple

586
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: of weeks later, How did J. T. Daniels looking at game?

587
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: He didn't look like anything. They played Florida a month later.

588
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Did oh, he didn't look like anything cause their medical

589
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: staff wouldn't clear him. Well, there was a reason for that.

590
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't that they were anti JT.

591
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Daniels. And so even when they did clear him.

592
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm not one that believes the guy was just all

593
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden magically one hundred percent.

594
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Now what does that mean? What did it mean?

595
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: It shaved one point five seconds off is forty times?

596
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: Does it mean that he lost twenty percent of his

597
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: arm strength and he'll all of a sudden gain it back.

598
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: No, but that's not the way a football game works.

599
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: The way a football game works is if you're third

600
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: and four against Clemson in Week one and you're in

601
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: plus territory.

602
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: You're on their thirty nine yard line, and they're leading

603
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: you twenty three twenty.

604
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: It's late third quarter, but you're driving on them, and

605
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: here comes Brian Berzy off the edge and his third

606
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: and six, and you have the mobility, and you have

607
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: the wherewithal in the pocket, and you have the physical

608
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: awareness to just sidestep, and instead of sacking you, he

609
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: just brushes you with his arm and you regain footing

610
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: and you deliver strike across the middle fifteen yards downfield,

611
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: and it's first down Georgia and you go on to

612
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: win the game because of that drive. Could you tell

613
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: the difference between that person, the person capable of making

614
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: that play versus the person who gets sacked if you

615
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: were watching him work out in the summer, could you

616
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: tell that person A has the ability and person B doesn't. No,

617
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: it's not something that shows up like that, but in reality,

618
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: that's the difference in a football game. What I'm telling

619
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: you is these incremental differences in one's physical ability when

620
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: being cleared but not one hundred percent versus being closer

621
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent, and with an entire a word

622
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: to recuperate, could make the incremental difference in what could

623
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: end up being the difference in a couple of one

624
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: possession games this year. And so I'm saying all that

625
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: to tell you I think they have the tool at

626
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: quarterback now JT. Daniels, along with a versatility receiver to

627
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: do what they wanted to do last year that they

628
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: now can fully commit to doing because the ingredients are

629
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: in place, and unlike last year, the calendar has cooperated

630
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: with him. So it won't take long. You know, for

631
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: anyone who wants to push back on that, it won't

632
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: take long. I think Colin pointed out in the spring

633
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: I said something like, I think George's offense is going

634
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 2: to be top three in the country. Let me please,

635
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: let me let me correct myself. When I say top three,

636
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't mean top three in terms of raw statistical output.

637
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: They're going to be in the top three whether you

638
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: want to go average arge per game or points per game,

639
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: but I mean from an efficiency standpoint. I think they

640
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: have the top end, top five ish potential. I think

641
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 2: that's what they have, So that in and of itself

642
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: is a very very lofty statement. But I do not

643
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: want to get boxed into this hole. I predicted Georgia

644
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: to be top three. Offensively, I know how that ends.

645
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: I am normally the one pushing someone up against the

646
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: wall who makes a statement like that, So I definitely

647
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: don't want to be in that position.

648
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Probably still am, though. All right, let's move on. I

649
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: want to go south, a little bit south of Georgia.

650
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Even there is some there's some things happen at MIDI.

651
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: So Colin, let's start it this way. Three to one.

652
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: You know, some of the best news I heard all

653
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: weekend was out of Miami. I'm not talking about dolphins practice.

654
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Two would doing some things down there, but I'm not

655
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: talking about the Dolphins. I'm talking about the Canes. The

656
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: entire spring, the entire summer, the entire preview, magazine, culture,

657
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: everything about Miami has hinged on the health of Dearyck King,

658
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: right even we've talked about it, and so the health

659
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: of dearreck King's knee has been assumed to be on

660
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: the trajectory to get him ready to start the season.

661
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Having said that, and I will admit that even I

662
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: felt like this, Even I have looked at him in

663
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: thought to myself, It's one thing to be able to

664
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: play to start the season, but is he really going

665
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: to be ready to fully utilize his skill set and

666
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: that includes mobility? I mean, is he really going to

667
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: be in a place after tearing his knee in a

668
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: bowl game?

669
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Is he really going to be in a position to

670
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: do that?

671
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest with you, I have not

672
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: believed it until this past weekend.

673
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: And it practice.

674
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: Again, not much of significance happens in the first few

675
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: practices that you can take with you, and a month later, say,

676
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: remember when that happened in the first two practices. I

677
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: knew then that this was in store, But.

678
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: With dearik King it may have happened.

679
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: So over the weekend they're practicing and Dearick King, I

680
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: wanted to say, they were running some some read type

681
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: stuff and he keeps and he jukes a couple of

682
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: defenders and he just turned it loose.

683
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he fully throttled it right.

684
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: Down the middle of the field and did what a

685
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 2: fully mobile one hundred percent healthy quarterback would do. And

686
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: so everyone goes crazy at Miami practice and the beat

687
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: reporters afterwards, I mean, any live microphone they had, they

688
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: couldn't get enough of players and coaches. Manny Diaz included,

689
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: just glowing about it. Now you may listen and say,

690
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: is this not foolish? The dude did one rep in practice. Well,

691
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: if that's the way you look at it, yeah, but

692
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: let's remember it and few it and proper context.

693
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: Here.

694
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: No one has had any clue that the duke can run.

695
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: He's told you he can. The returns out of Miami

696
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: have been we believe he's going to be one hundred percent.

697
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: But again, because we've seen so.

698
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Many people and heard so many people say it like

699
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: that before, and we've watched them limp around noticeably. When

700
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: the season finally gets here, you just have to see

701
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: it to believe it. I was skeptical, and so all

702
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden, when you hear that, you say, wait

703
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: a second, he actually did it, like he actually does

704
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: possess that ability. And then after practice, Derrick King says

705
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: almost in and I told you so.

706
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Tone, why are you so surprised? Oh?

707
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, when they ask him the knee

708
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: brace question, he said, no, not snow coll Steve Boston,

709
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't need knee braces, not for aesthetics and not

710
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: for medical purposes.

711
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing knee braces. I don't need them.

712
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: So he's told you he's recovered, and it looks for

713
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: the time being at least that he is recovered. And

714
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: so it's been hard for me to in some ways,

715
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: it's been hard for me to fully marry myself to

716
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: the idea that Miami can win the Code Division because

717
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I have not been able to marry myself to the

718
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: concept that Derek King is going to be all the

719
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: way back. Well, now I believe he will be all

720
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: the way back, and with that in mind, I believe

721
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Miami absolutely.

722
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Can win the Coastal Division.

723
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: Now, a lot of folks are going to get hung

724
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: up on them opening against Bama and in all likelihood

725
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: taking an l against Alabama.

726
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: That's not what you should get hung up on. Watch

727
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: them and.

728
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: If they get beat fifty six to three, then yeah,

729
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: that's that's not a good thing. But watch him after

730
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: the Bama game, because after the Bama game, you're looking

731
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: at the schedule. Right now, They've got two games that

732
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: are not layups by any stretch, but they're not going

733
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: to be on the national radar. They play app State,

734
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: they play Michigan State, they play a directional school, and

735
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: then they dive back into conference play for a Thursday

736
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: game I want to say against Virginia. None of those

737
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: games are going to peak the national meter, but they're

738
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: critically important because whatever we learn and whatever that coaching

739
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: staff learns Deerck King included against Alabama, you then get

740
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: to go to work correcting those things and getting yourself

741
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: at as higher cruising altitude as you can for what

742
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: comes on October sixteenth, with nine days rest, while the

743
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: tar Hills are playing their seventh game in seven weeks,

744
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: Miami goes to Chapel Hill for a game that could

745
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: very well determine the status of the ACC coastal And

746
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: if you all of a sudden tell me that Deeric

747
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: King is going to be one hundred percent, and you

748
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: tell me they got a month and a half's worth

749
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: of games to build up to that, plus they've got

750
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: a total schedule dynamic advantage heavily tilted in their favor.

751
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm not conceding that.

752
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: This is just an overwhelming North Carolina favor to win

753
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: the division sort of deal. Anymore, I think a lot

754
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: of those odds have baked into them the skepticism about

755
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: Deeric King. So that's the first thing I want you

756
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: to focus on. But now I want you to think

757
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: about what I have said at this very table or desk,

758
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: I guess we call it a desk in our world.

759
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: I've sat at this desk, and I don't know how

760
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: many times over the span of the last few months,

761
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: told you the key to balancing out college football is

762
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Miami and Florida and Florida State reclaiming the state of

763
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: Florida and Texas, A and M in Texas and USC

764
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: in the state of California and Texas respectively. This could

765
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: actually have a lot to do with that. They're not

766
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: immediately connected. But now I want you to think forward

767
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: a little ways. This is huge from Miami for obvious reasons.

768
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one. It helps them contend a lot

769
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: more in the Coastal Division race. But number two, it

770
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: helps them get their young quarterbacks and Tyler Van Dyke

771
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: and Jake Garcia valuable development and repetition. But here's the

772
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: third thing it does it turns twenty twenty one into

773
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: a giant recruiting marketing campaign for Manny Diazenrhett Lashly and

774
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 2: the Miami offense.

775
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: We have watched it happen with Clemson.

776
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: We have watched it happen with other programs where you

777
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: get a star quarterback that is put on display for

778
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: the nation to see. Other quarterbacks see it, other receivers

779
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: see it. And if they do what I think they're

780
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: capable of doing this year, and if Derrek King does

781
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: live up to that lofty expectation and rereet Lashly with

782
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: now his first full year and second year overall into

783
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: the program to be able to fully sink his teeth

784
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: into this offense. If it performs at an optimum level,

785
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: and every quarterback in America, including several in the state

786
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: of Florida, are seeing it, and all that South Florida

787
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver talent seeing it, it could very well be

788
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: what pushes a future Miami recruiting class over the top.

789
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 2: And it could be what all of a sudden lands

790
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: you one or multiples of elite quarterbacks and wide receiver talent.

791
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: And it's not just wide receiver talent. A safety can

792
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: look at Miami and say, oh, if the big boys

793
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: are going there offensively, I could stay in South Florida

794
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: and have a chance to win games at a high level.

795
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I'll stay home. Absolutely, I'll stay home.

796
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: The only reason I was ever going to leave is

797
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: because I didn't think I had that available to me

798
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: down here.

799
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: It could change a lot.

800
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: And so you think about this, and in one hand,

801
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: it's just one player, and it's just one year. But

802
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: on the other hand, it could be a much bigger

803
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: domino than anyone realizes. So it just makes it mean

804
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: so much more when when I say things like, well

805
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: they returned their top three receivers from last year, Well,

806
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: that means as much as your quarterback in OC make

807
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: it mean. It means as much as your offensive line

808
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: makes it mean. I'm going to talk about the offensive

809
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: line a little bit more later in the show. I

810
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: mean at Ad Charleston Rambo from the transfer portal, what.

811
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Does it mean?

812
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: It means as much as your offense and coordinator and

813
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: quarterback can make it mean.

814
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 1: And so it looks increasingly like.

815
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: That means a whole lot at Miami, maybe a whole

816
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: lot more than we thought it would. Okay, let's take

817
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: a breath you would think I have investment in Miami

818
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: almost sweaty out here, a lot more to do with

819
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: the air conditionering here than anything else. So I wanted

820
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: to toss in something that we did for a couple

821
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: of other conferences the other day. Wanted to offer up

822
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: some of the biggest questions in the Big twelve and

823
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: the acc going into twenty twenty one.

824
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: Let me start at Texas.

825
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: I intentionally didn't touch on the Horns earlier in the

826
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: show because I wanted to touch on this right now.

827
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: There's an interesting little development at Texas. Granted, as is

828
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 2: the case with everyone we talk about tonight, it's still

829
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: very early in camp. But if you again are a

830
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: big believer in preview magazine culture, I would imagine a

831
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: lot of those preview mags had listed as the starter

832
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: at quarterback for Texas this year the name Casey Thompson,

833
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: and Casey Thompson may very well be the starting quarterback

834
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: for Texas. But my first biggest question here in the

835
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Big twelve is does Steve Sarkisan know who his quarterback

836
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: is going to be? Because if he doesn't know who

837
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be, obviously, the author and editor of

838
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: a magazine can't know, nor can I know. Norton, you know, now,

839
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: we can guess, but I don't think sark knows yet.

840
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: And if some truth serum were injected into him, based

841
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: on what we're hearing from the first few practices in Austin,

842
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: he may be leaning slightly a direction other than Casey Thompson,

843
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: which would mean Hudson card. Now think about Steve Sarkisian

844
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: and they've got a scrimmage this coming Saturday. It's going

845
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: to go a long way into ciding this, But think

846
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: about Steve Sarkisian and what you saw from him at

847
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Alabama last couple of years. What was paramount at the

848
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: quarterback position? What took Matt Jones from a guy who

849
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: couldn't get on the field and not much was expected

850
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: of and a guy that Bryce Young was going to

851
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: come in and overtake. What took Mac Jones from that

852
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: to being a first round NFL draft pick. Timing accuracy,

853
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: a good enough arm, but being able to throw receivers

854
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: open or in other words, great touch. That's what took

855
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: Mac Jones to eventually the level that he got taken

856
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: to in Steve Sarkisian's offense. Why do I mention all

857
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: of these intangibles. Well, it's because that's what they keep

858
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: saying about Hudson Card out of Texas.

859
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: He's the guy who throws the better ball. He's the

860
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: guy who's got a little bit more accuracy.

861
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: And I'm just telling you, if they were saying it

862
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: about Casey Thompson, it would be affirmation for a lot

863
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: of people's already held idea of what the Texas quarterback

864
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: position is going to be, and so they'd say, yep,

865
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: I knew it. But since it's being said about Hudson Card,

866
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: people are saying, oh, it's still early in camp.

867
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Oh it is, it is.

868
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: And Casey Thompson may very well take this job by

869
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: the throat when the pads go on and it's time

870
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: to scrimmage. But I'm just telling you, don't discount when

871
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: they say that kind of stuff about Hudson Card. Don't

872
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: discount it. You don't know anything about Steve Sarkisian. You

873
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: don't know anything about what he really feels about his

874
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: roster out there. That staff hadn't been there half a

875
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: dozen years. You don't have multiple case studies on this.

876
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: In other words, so you could get a little surprise

877
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: throwing your way by the time that Louisiana.

878
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Game rolls around. Now, let's go to a team that.

879
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: Is widely expected to contend for a national championship this year,

880
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: and that is the Clemson Tigers. You think back, what

881
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: year was it, Colin, it was twenty eighteen, the twenty

882
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: eighteen season at least when they beat Alabama out in

883
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, not my favorite host city in the world,

884
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: but they did give me a sweet book bag that

885
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: I still use every day even to this day.

886
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: So thank you guys for that.

887
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: What stands out the most about that game when Clemson

888
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: just mocked the floor with Bama splattered him, only time

889
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: we've ever said that about Bama. But Bama got splattered.

890
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: There was just tied all over the place out there.

891
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: What stands out to me is Clemson receivers, it felt

892
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: like fifty times that night made catches on balls that

893
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: weren't fifty to fifty balls.

894
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: They were far more difficult to.

895
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: Catch it than that would call him like twenty eighty

896
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: balls or thirty seventy balls. And you just see a hand,

897
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: You see a hand and it booms justin Ross. That

898
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: was his coming out party, and that's what stood out, Well,

899
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: how do you make those catches? You have supreme athleticism,

900
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: but you've got length.

901
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: That's what you have. Next question in the ACC is is.

902
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 2: The Clemson wide receiver room back to being an elite unit?

903
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: Because when you think.

904
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: Back to that twenty eighteen Bama beat down, you think

905
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: about length and you think about incredible circus catches at receiver.

906
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: With that in mind and the announcement of Justin Ross

907
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: being cleared by Dabis twenty, I want to read you

908
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: some stats here right quick. They're simple, just some height

909
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: and weight. Justin Ross sixty four two oh five. E. J.

910
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: Williams sixty three one ninety, Joseph Nada six three two twenty,

911
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Frank Ladson sixty three two oh five. So everyone can

912
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: dunk without barely having to jump at the receiver corps

913
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: this year for Clemson, and what that means is, at

914
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: least from an athletics standpoint, they find only look again

915
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: for the first time in a couple of years like

916
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: they did in twenty eighteen.

917
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: What does this.

918
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Mean ultimately, Well, when you got the kind of quarterback

919
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: they'll have it Clemson, then.

920
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: It probably means a lot.

921
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: So it probably first means that they're going to crucify

922
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the ACC But then it also probably

923
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 2: means when they get into one of these playoff type

924
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: situations against an Alabama or against the Georgia or at Oklahoma,

925
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State, whoever it is, USC let's.

926
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Just throw a random school in there, why don't we?

927
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: It means that they are not smothered and they are

928
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: not out athleted on the perimeter. And in some cases

929
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: that's what you ended up seeing, not very much, but

930
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: you saw it, for instance against Ohio State. Don't think

931
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: you're going to see that this year. So Clemson, because

932
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: of that, among other reasons, has.

933
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: A great shot to win it all this year.

934
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: Now, I want to go right back to where we

935
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: were just at a couple of minutes ago with Miami,

936
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: but a totally different angle here. There has been a

937
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: lot written about Derek King, There's been a lot written

938
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: about Miami and expectations, but I want to ask you

939
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: very specifically, are you ready to live in a world

940
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: where offensive line as a strength for the Biami Hurricanes?

941
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: Because I can't remember, in several years doing this show

942
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: now the last time that we entered a season and

943
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: I could honestly look at you and say, you know

944
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: what I.

945
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Like about Miami offensive line. Offensive line looks good. Well

946
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: it does.

947
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: This year, one hundred and thirty eight combined starts returning

948
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: is close to an all time college football record. Now

949
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: the kickback could be okay, are they good? Well, I

950
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: don't think they're wall to wall first rounders. They may

951
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: not even be wal to wall first team All acc ers.

952
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: They have some candidates that fit that description. But what

953
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: they have is continuity. What you have is a unit

954
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: at least that you think you can count on. So

955
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: think about the chain of events here. Everyone wants to

956
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: know what Derek King can do. Everyone wants to know

957
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: what Cameron Harrison company could do it running back, all

958
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: these receivers, they feel like they're as deep as they've

959
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: obviously been under Mandy Dias a receiver. All these pieces

960
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: will Mallory it tight end looks to do some big

961
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: things this year as Brevin Jordan departs, But.

962
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: All that's contingent on quarterback play.

963
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: This is the same kind of thing we've said about

964
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: Florida several times over the last few years, and it's

965
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: the same kind of theme with Miami and for that matter,

966
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: we said it about Florida state. It's it's like an

967
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: epidemic up and down the state of Florida at the

968
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: power five level.

969
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: Well, Miami don't have to worry about the other two.

970
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: But as for their own house, it looks like they've

971
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: got offensive line figured out. So again, I don't want

972
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: to I don't just I don't want to fire off

973
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: bottle rockets of expectation from Miami on the show tonight,

974
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: even though it kind of sounds like I have.

975
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: This is something to monitor very closely because see.

976
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: A lot of you bet futures, and a lot of

977
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: you want to bet those Week one games, and a

978
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: lot of you want to bet prop bets for who's

979
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: gonna win a conference. I'm telling you right now that

980
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the ACC numbers have been built with

981
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: the idea of skepticism towards the health of Deeric King,

982
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: and skepticism somewhat overall because of that about the quality

983
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: of team Miami can have. Well, one of the I

984
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have heard this, but one

985
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: of the great added benefits of having a together offensive line,

986
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: a fully jell cohesive offensive line, is it helps keep

987
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: that quarterback up right, a whole lot more often during

988
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: the season, and if you're coming off knee surgery, it

989
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: greatly reduces risk there.

990
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind.

991
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: And lastly, I want to go to my old stomping grounds,

992
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: even though I've never been to the state ames, Iowa

993
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: is the place.

994
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Iowa State is the team.

995
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: You're looking around at top ten polls out there. The

996
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: JP Pole will be coming out later this month. You

997
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: heard me right? How much better can Iowa State get?

998
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Everyone's got them listed in the top ten as they should.

999
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: We're going to have them helpfully rated inside the top

1000
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: ten and the JP Pole. What's the max potential for

1001
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: them this year? Cause to reference preview magazine Culture for

1002
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: a third time tonight, they check all the Preview magazine

1003
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Culture boxes.

1004
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: They got returning starters? How many they got? Twenty returning starters?

1005
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Their entire offense returns, and they've got a returning head coach,

1006
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: and an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator and a quarterback.

1007
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: They got all boxes checked. So a preview magazine.

1008
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Culture would tell you they could probably go win the

1009
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: NFC North because returning starters is all it takes to

1010
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: win in college football, Apparently, well, we all know that's

1011
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: not true. It's one of the more overrated stats, but

1012
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: it does mean something.

1013
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Having said that, how much does it mean here this year?

1014
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Because Iowa State, as has been very well chronicled by

1015
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: this point, this is not a roster loaded up with

1016
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: four and five star talent, And so the fear if

1017
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: you had it would be, well, they're so good at

1018
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: developing guys, and they have guys without that truly elite

1019
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: top five NFL draft pick type sealing of potential on

1020
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: them that maybe they just are who they are. So

1021
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: maybe this team returns everything from last year. But what

1022
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: if that team already was the maximum potential of what

1023
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: it could be. I'm going to counter that, and I'm

1024
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: going to tell you, I think you're remembering Iowa State

1025
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty being a little bit better than they

1026
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 2: actually were. What do you remember Iowa State being because

1027
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of.

1028
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: You remember them being nine to three.

1029
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of you remember them losing

1030
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State or losing to Lawis to start the season.

1031
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: People don't remember.

1032
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 2: That, they remember a very competitive game against Oklahoma where

1033
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: they were I think minus two or three in the

1034
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: turnover battle, and they lost a one possession Big Twelve

1035
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: championship game after beating ou in the regular season.

1036
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: You do remember that.

1037
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: And then they played Oregon, and they beat Oregon pretty

1038
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: soundly in the Fiesta Bowl, and so they surely finished

1039
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: on fire. But I think a lot of folks remember

1040
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: them as being a lot closer to their maximum potential

1041
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: last year than they actually were, and so this year,

1042
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: I do think there's room for improvement. What I would

1043
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: love to see, and I think that last year takes

1044
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: care of it, is I would love to see them

1045
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: start fast. I think they'll be a premium placed on

1046
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: that because of the Week one debacle against Louisiana last year.

1047
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: But I would love to see them play at a

1048
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: high level all year. And I would love to see

1049
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: them in a heads up matchup against Oklahoma where turnovers

1050
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: weren't a factor, just an even turnover game, and just

1051
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: watch those teams play, because I'm a believer last year

1052
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: they may end up beating Oklahoma if that stat is

1053
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: even now, that doesn't mean anything because Oklahoma is a

1054
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: different team this year. And even though you've got a

1055
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: lot of the same pieces, for all we know, Iowa

1056
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: State could be a different team this year. Those the

1057
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: returning starters doesn't always equal same team. We've seen that

1058
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: many times in college football. So the kicker I think

1059
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: with the whole Iowa State concept of them hitting their

1060
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: ceiling already is I don't think they hit their ceiling

1061
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: last year, and so if they hit it this year,

1062
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: I still think there's room for improvement. Maybe not incremental

1063
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five percent. Well I guess that wouldn't

1064
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: be incremental. That would be quantum improvement. But I think

1065
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: there's room for provement. So those are some of the

1066
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: biggest questions in the ACC and the Big twelve that

1067
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: we have really crisp show tonight. I told you i'd

1068
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: get it in an under an hour. Hey, I got

1069
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: one thing to ask of you. I don't do this

1070
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: very often, but I'm gonna do it tonight because I

1071
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: promised that I would, and I care very much about this.

1072
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: Spence Dalton is a name that I want you to

1073
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: know about. Back in Georgia where I was over the weekend,

1074
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: I was made aware of something that happened in a

1075
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: Coney County.

1076
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: It was back in June. Spence Dalton is a first responder.

1077
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: He works for fire and rescue in a Coney County,

1078
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: So they have a tree down one night and he's

1079
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: out cleaning up tree damage.

1080
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of times.

1081
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: What happens in these situations is maybe you got some cones,

1082
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: maybe you got some flashing lights, but there aren't fifteen

1083
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: state patrol out there to slow traffic down, and people

1084
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: are really bad about not slowing down as much as

1085
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: they need to in some of those cleanup zones. Well,

1086
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: that happened here and he got hit, got blindsided as

1087
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: he was out trying to remove a tree that was

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Speaker 2: across a road. I guess after a storm, and driver

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Speaker 2: stops then speeds off. Now, someone else who was on

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Speaker 2: the scene eventually went and got the driver.

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Speaker 1: So that I'm not asking you for.

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Speaker 2: What I am asking you is if you're watching on YouTube,

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: look down here and I have put a link to

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Speaker 2: a fundraiser for Spence Dalton if you can afford to,

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Speaker 2: and I know good and well you guys will follow

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Speaker 2: through because you've done it before, above and beyond anything

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Speaker 2: that I could have imagined you being able to do.

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Speaker 2: When we helped out with the hurricanes down on the

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Speaker 2: Gulf Coast, a lot of you remained anonymous.

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Speaker 1: When you did that, I appreciated it. They need help.

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Speaker 2: That family needs help because there are significant medical bills

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Speaker 2: that they have to pay.

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Speaker 1: And so this is back down in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: It's very close to me, and so if you can,

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Speaker 2: would ask that you guys check out that link and

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Speaker 2: help out. Right after we go off the air, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tweet out a link to it, so one

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Speaker 2: way or another you'll be able to find it. And

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Speaker 2: that's the only time I'll have to request this, and

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Speaker 2: I know you guys will come through, So thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for that. Make sure you're following by the

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Speaker 2: way on Twitter and Instagram. At late kick, Josh, we

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Speaker 2: are not going to have to wait until Thursday for

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Speaker 2: another show. We'll be back here same time Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: eight Eastern, seventh Central. We are wall to wall from

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Speaker 2: now until we crown a national champion sometime in January.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what city it is, but that's

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Speaker 1: a long way away until day for a director coline

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Speaker 1: for our entire crew down in Fort Lauderdale. I'm Josh

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Speaker 1: Bate ecstatic about finally

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Speaker 2: Getting to camp season see again Tuesday night until they

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Speaker 2: in take care of contents