1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Bob Nightingale from USA today, looking nice 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: and fresh like you got some rest, Bob, great job 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: on the cover is yesterday. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: Question you want to start there, Bob, what do you 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: think about shouldn't a white Sox have moved Luis Robert Jr. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: Or should they say, oh, we're gonna pick up his 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: twenty million dollar option? 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: Absolutely should have moved him, and he was throw a 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: bag of balls. You move the guy they were asking 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: for way too high, and we can do it. Throw 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: bad money after bad money. It makes no sense to 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: throw twenty million dollars. Then it be since you know 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: he has hurt all next year too, he can do 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: the same thing. Don't move with the deadline and then 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: pick up the option for another twenty million. 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: Makes no sense to keep them Bingo. I like this guy. 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: I like that. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: I like that, Bob. 19 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: We're all on the same page. We're like, tell us 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: we're crazy, and nobody's telling us we're crazy. So let's 21 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: go over winners and losers. You put those out, we'll 22 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: start there. Let's start on the positive side. You want 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: to run through some of your winners. I see your list, 24 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: But where do you want to start, Like the winner 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: that you're most excited about, well, sort. 26 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: Of the Padres. 27 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know they're going after the Dodgers once again, 28 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: trade away twenty two minor leaguers, and the way you 29 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: know a j Pellar figures that, hey, we got a 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: draft for a reason, we got scouts, we'll get more. 31 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: We'll keep doing the same thing year after year. I 32 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: love the fact they were that aggressive, you know, and 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: it trade cease and in trade swars, they kept going 34 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: after it. So now they're they're the biggest winner in 35 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: my book by far. 36 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Well, I see the Astros on here. What about the Astros? 37 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: What did you think of their trade deadline? And I 38 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: know you were reporting a lot on the whole Carlos 39 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: Korea situation, which I'm sure was a fun rollercoaster ride 40 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: for you. 41 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was stunned, you know, at the beginning of 42 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 3: they even had interest in Korea with all the money. 43 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's he's got, uh, he's not had good 44 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: performance in Minnesota. 45 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: And I didn't believe it for a whiles. 46 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: I got I kept hearing calls from different guys, so 47 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: I finally checked out. 48 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're checking in. 49 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Originally it still twins in up paying thirty three million dollars. 50 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean, really, what happened? 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: The Twins changed the whole trade market by dumping everybody. 52 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: It's a shock that it moved Joe Ryan too. But yeah, I. 53 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Thought the fact you get Korea for you know, a 54 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: lot less uh, you know, dirt cheap price. Right now, 55 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: they almost got Dylan Cees. Uh you know, they got 56 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: outfield help. 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: So I like what you did a lot. Dana Brown 58 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: had nice deadline. 59 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Bob, you mentioned the Twins. I know you used to 60 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: cover the Twins a lot up in Minneapolis. Your son 61 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: still covers the Twins. What the heck were they doing? 62 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: And should Twins fans be as angry? I know Derek 63 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Falvey put out a letter that this is a step 64 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: to the World Series or whatever his letter said and 65 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: signed it to all the Twin season ticket holders. But 66 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: I mean they just got rid of They just cleaned house, 67 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: right for a team that won a playoff series two 68 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: years ago. 69 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even with the Astros, you know that 70 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: deal in a being between the pull Ad family and 71 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Jim Crane, it wasn't with the GMS. Is like, hey, 72 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: you guys, are you know four hundretyllion dollars in debt. 73 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: You guys really lost forty. 74 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: Million dollars that you want to dump this contract and 75 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: they just changed their minds, So okay, let's dump everybody. 76 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: That's the biggest buyers sale in baseball history for a 77 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: single day, as unbelievable. So, yeah, the Twins can't be 78 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: sold fast enough. I mean, that franchise, They're ruined, that franchise, 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: the polo Head family. They got to dump it fast 80 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: because the public's got to be furious up there. 81 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 5: I had read somewhere, and I've read too many different things, 82 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: so I'm not sure where it came from. It said, 83 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 5: had the Class A news come out about the nondisciplinary 84 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: restriction list, had that not come out, would the Twins 85 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: have still dumped the same amount of guys because they 86 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: said it wasn't duran and then became way more valuable 87 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: and they were able to start the cavalcade of just 88 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 5: getting rid of money. 89 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that anything to do with thereic, 90 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: you really don't. 91 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: I think it was just a situation where once Jim 92 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Green called pole Ad and said, hey, you got to 93 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: dump money in the front office. That kind of asked 94 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: ownership and you want dump or not? And they said 95 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: dump and they's ownership there kind of changed everybody's mind 96 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: and said okay, let's stripped his franchise. So I mean 97 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: it's totally helped. I mean, they got more for Derandi. 98 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: I thought they would. That's why all these relievers got moved. 99 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, Athletics had no intention of training Mason Miller, 100 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: but we that can return. You got no choice, so 101 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: I used thinking it was an ownership decision, like let's 102 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: stripped us, sing down the bones, and then not now 103 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: we can sell the team for the price we want. 104 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: Hey, Bob. 105 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: One more in the Astros that I thought you covered 106 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: well was what didn't happen and their pursuit of Dylan Cease. 107 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean that was a hot topic for twenty four 108 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: to forty eight hours and I saw your tweet after 109 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: the trade deadline about the asking price. So can you 110 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: tell us what happened there and your thoughts on if 111 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: they should have tried to get it done? 112 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: Well, they were in on it, and they were coming 113 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: ouptimistic for a while. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: The Astros were then you know, they thought that the 115 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: asking price changed and went from Spencerrighedty and three prospects. 116 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: And then the astro's mind is like, wait a minute, now, 117 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: we like ry Getty's going to come back. He's we 118 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: like him. Ben and Dalton sees Cease is just a rental. 119 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: So then became a no brainer to turn it down. 120 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: And you know the potteris, you know, during the morning 121 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: when they made that trade with Mason Miller, I think 122 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: the speculation when a Zucky Cease goes because we don't 123 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: have money, Suarez goes. They had no intention of Suarez. 124 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: They were never trading him and they really didn't want 125 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: to trade Cease either. They're really saying, you know what, 126 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: our windows closing here. We got to go for this 127 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: thing at least one more time. 128 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: You had Reds on your winners list. Can you give 129 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: us a little bit of an explanation of why you 130 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: felt like the Reds were winners at the deadline. 131 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: I just like the fact that they went for it. 132 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: I mean not huge. 133 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 134 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: You know, if the hitting coaches can turn around, get 135 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: Brian Hayes, that's a big thing. 136 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 5: Uh. 137 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: The Diamacks were upset, they wanted to move you know, 138 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: you Henny swar is there, so they got to you know, 139 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: come on, you gonna take Haze over Suarez? 140 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: Well, I mean not get Newly the attention they thought 141 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 4: they would. 142 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: So yeah, just by getting uh, by getting him getting 143 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: the outfillder helps to uh at least that they're going 144 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: for it. And then they you know, of course got 145 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: Paddick starting pitcher. So I like the fact that they 146 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: didn't just sit pat like a lot of teams. They said, 147 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: let's go for it. 148 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: It wasn't a massive, massive yet, but it was. It 149 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: was nice. Additions, you mentioned Cabrian Hayes. 150 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Why why would the Reds take that contract with the 151 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: last couple of years offensively that he's had, Why why 152 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: did the Reds take that on? 153 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I think they're just hoping that we could we can 154 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: turn around. Obviously they're playing a band boxing. If you 155 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: can't in Cincinnati, you can't hit anywhere. But I think 156 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: that you know, that starting rotation is so good and talented, 157 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: it's like, let's help let's help them out with defense. 158 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: Well turn that defense in a run prection that way. 159 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: But I just I just think they think they can 160 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: turn them around. Where if you're Pittsburgh, it was underwater 161 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: contract dumb them from what they did so Pittsburgh was 162 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: a static to move them. 163 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: I want to hit some more teams on your losers list. 164 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Red Sox, the Red Sox and Cubs. 165 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, get bunched together. We're gonna cover them later. 166 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on those two and 167 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: if you thought they were close to getting anything done 168 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: and why they're so hesitant when they had prospect capital 169 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: to make a move for a starting pitcher. 170 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, teams hate done with the Red Sox. 171 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: They said, just very tough to do with Breslo Diamondbacks, 172 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: who had some momentum going with Merril Kelly and that 173 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: fell apart to him. 174 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't think they were ever really in on Joe Ryan. 175 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: You know some report that was done. 176 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that even had conversations, But when you 177 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: talk to gms around the game, said just very tough 178 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: to deal with the Red Sox and Craig Breslow in particular. 179 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: And if they're really going for itk you know they 180 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: did a poor job because. 181 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: The Yankees got a whole lot better. 182 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Blue Jay's got better, So I think they'll give me 183 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: an outside of looking in, I think if that you 184 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: didn't do anything they may be sitting home and the 185 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: Texas Rangers take their places as a wildcard team. 186 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: All right, Well what about where Breslol came from the 187 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Cubby Bears. Well, I mean they made some minor moves. 188 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: They didn't know, they made some smaller moves, but they 189 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: didn't make it in the dfa Ryan Presley after the move, 190 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: So what were they doing? Did Bresilo learn from Jed Hoyer? 191 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Like core prospects and the prospect has is worth ten 192 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, so. 193 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: We don't want to give up that ten thousand dollars. 194 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: Like what the heck happened in Kubbyville? 195 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, gims are asking us same like, how can you 196 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: be all in to go get Kyle Tucker? Did the 197 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: trade down the line and you've got a chance to 198 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: be good and you have a chance for a World Series? 199 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: You do absolutely nothing. So everybody's asking the same question. 200 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: And then, you know, the one intriguing thing is, you know, 201 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: Jed Hoyer just gout's contract extension. If you had not 202 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: got that extension, would he have been a lot more 203 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: aggressive trying to you know, finish wrong, finish first place 204 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: and going. 205 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: Deep in October? Now you have security you're almost looking 206 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: at your prospects like, you don't give me around for 207 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: a couple of years. I don't want to trade those 208 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: prospects away. 209 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: So they went for a team that had, you know, 210 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: may the best chance to be the World Series in 211 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: National League. So you know, reality is probably only the 212 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: fifth or sixth best team in the Nation League right now. 213 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: The Giants, you have them on a loser list. Do 214 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: you feel like maybe the trade deadline kind of snuck 215 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: up on them because they've started to play poorly and 216 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 5: they were like a team that got Rafael Devers, so 217 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: it's like we must be in a buy mode and 218 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: all of a sudden the poor play down the stretch 219 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 5: kind of led to their eh kind of trade deadline. 220 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's a month ago they're all in 221 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: going for Devers and how gress is gonna be at 222 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: their deadline and then just selling saying what we got 223 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: no chance? Obviously, the Dominas contract so far has been disaster, 224 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: you know, Berlin or has it worked out? They must 225 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: really not have liked the ball for him, just you know, 226 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: throw them away at the Yankees when he still has 227 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: years of control. 228 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting offseason. I think this can be 229 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: interesting last two months. 230 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: I know they just picked up the option of Bob 231 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: Melvin's contract, but what they can do if they just 232 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: keep playing this poorly down this wretch, that franchise could 233 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: go either way as far as buyer sale. Because they 234 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: didn't get much of the deadline at all in their moves. 235 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: Bob, a couple other losers. They're close to each other, 236 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: the Brewers who didn't do much. Yes, they got Andrew Vaughan, 237 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: Priester Jansen. I get all that before the deadline, but 238 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: I thought they had a chance to strike. And but 239 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: the Cubs not doing much. They're in first place, but 240 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: they could have maybe made a move. And in the 241 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: team two hour south, the White Sox, we already talked 242 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: kind of talked about Robert, but some of the other guys, 243 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Savallee could have been moved. There's some other guys. They 244 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: probably could have made some moves for they did it. 245 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: What happened to these two teams? 246 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Brewers have used that you know, state pat. 247 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: I mean every time we rip them, you know, they 248 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: always take off, they always have a bad winner, and 249 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: then you look up and they're in play in October. 250 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: So I thought the their trade there to get Shelby 251 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: Miller was almost a panic move, like, my guy, we 252 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: better do something. 253 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: It's gonna look stupid. 254 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: So they took a lot of money and they took 255 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: on Jordan Montgomery's contract too. You know, Dinebacks chipped in 256 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: two million of it. But you know, just to to 257 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: have Chelby Miller, who's a nice reliever but not you know, 258 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: not a stud guy. 259 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I think. 260 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: The Brewers fans, you know, frustration is that they always 261 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: get in the playoffs, but they don't have that team 262 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: to go all the way. So they're lucky. You know, 263 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: the Cubs an't doing anything. They went to White Sox. Yeah, 264 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: to go back to you know, Luis Robert, just not 265 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: trading him as a disaster. Should have got more for 266 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: those guys. 267 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 268 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: You know, you talk to gams. 269 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: They get frustrated with Chris cats too, so you know 270 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: they you know, they kind of stood pat. But I 271 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: think the Robert thing, you know, they should have trained 272 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: be the winner for one, they had a trail. Now 273 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't think they can pick up that, you know, 274 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: that option. I think it's stupid to throw. 275 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: Another twenty million dollars down the drain. 276 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: If anybody thought he's any good, they would have you know, 277 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: they would grabbed him. I mean they were begging the 278 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies to trade him and trade to him, and 279 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: the Phillies had no interest. I mean everybody sees the 280 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: same thing. The guy rarely plays. I don't care how 281 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: much doubt you have. You know, uh anthrow a. Don's 282 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: got talent too, but he's not playing. What good is it? 283 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: Agreed? 284 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 5: Agreed? 285 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: All right? One more on the Brewers. Why did they 286 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: get the Montgomery? Did the Diamondbacks just want him out 287 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: that quickly? Like the Diamondbacks were just like, all right, 288 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: we're out of this. And the other thing for the 289 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: Brewers is I know they got Vaughn and I know, 290 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: you know again we'll go back to that. Vaughn's been 291 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: great for him, but wasn't again Suarez would have looked 292 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: so good in their in their uniform at third base, 293 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: just for this year. And is making the playoffs enough 294 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: for the Brewers to keep their fans happy because they 295 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: make the playoffs losing the first round? 296 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: Make the playoffs. 297 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: I know they had the one deep rom but they 298 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: make the playoffs losing the first round. Is that enough 299 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: to keep the fans in Milwaukee happy. 300 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: No, they were very upset during the spring because the 301 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: didn't do it. They during the winners and what are 302 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: we doing here? You know, let a Diamus walk drained 303 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: away Devin Williams. But you know, God and they are 304 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: still sitting in first place. But yeah, I think with 305 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: the Montgomery thing, you know, he's done for the season. 306 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: Maybe we had Tommy John surgery. So all they did 307 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: was okay, so we don't have to give a prospect 308 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: back for Chelby Miller. We'll take on the money. So 309 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: the Diamacks are just dumping payroll. Originally had diamondbacks in 310 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: that list. 311 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 312 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: You know they had a bad trade deadline too. I mean, 313 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: you had all these pieces. Zach Gallon never got any 314 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: offers for him, really, so now they're they're stuck with him. 315 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: They're trying to move him. I mean, they've got to 316 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: give him qualifying offer just to keep him around. But 317 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: they didn't get much at all for the other guys. 318 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 319 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: And they were stunned how the little action they got 320 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: in Suarez. They wanted to move him desperately, but nobody 321 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: was giving him anything. 322 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't a good market for position players, 323 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: as a few gams have told me, you know, in 324 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: the trade deadline, you know, you never get much for 325 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: position players. I mean when they J. D. 326 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: Martinez got moved to Diamondbacks years ago and give up 327 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: a bag of balls for the guy, so swore as 328 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: they were very disappointed that the Yankees did go after him, 329 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: and then when the Reds went to Hayes instead of 330 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: going after him, that the market for him traded. 331 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: Hey, I'll bring up another team that I thought should 332 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: have been involved for Gino Suarez. What did you think 333 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: of the trade deadline for the Detroit Tigers. I saw 334 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of quantity that would maintain depth for the 335 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: next couple months. But are they aware that once you 336 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: get to October, it's nice to have a high leverage arm, 337 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: a right handed power bat. I just thought they missed 338 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: the boat for me. 339 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Gims. 340 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: You talked to you know, echo the same sentiment, like, 341 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: here's a here was a team of chance to go 342 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: to the World Series, and you know you didn't get 343 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: that big time arm. 344 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's an opportunity. 345 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna have Scooba for one more year after this 346 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: and that's it, you know, Casey Miz is there flirty 347 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: flarity maybe walking after this year or too. So yeah, 348 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm with you. And you know, the asking price for 349 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: Suarez was low. They should have grabbed Suarez even perfect there. 350 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: I think too many teams were worried about Suarez batting emerges. 351 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: They give me a streaky hitter, and you know defense 352 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: isn't you know, the best, But still to have a 353 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: power hitter like that, you know, thirty six home runs, 354 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: eighty seven ribies, you know it's a rare opportunity. 355 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree Scott is that they should have done. 356 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: More than that. 357 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 5: Obviously, I love division battles and when the trade deadline hits, 358 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: then National League East, the Mets in the Phillies, it's 359 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: a division battle to see who can win the division 360 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: and get that first round by who won out of 361 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: that out of the trade deadline, because the Mets added 362 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: more bullpen pieces plus that center fielder, and the Phillies 363 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: added their coveted closer, in my opinion, probably the best 364 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: closer available, plus plus they had you know, they have 365 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: years of control with them, and they got their centerfielder. 366 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: So who do you feel one between the two of those? 367 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: You know, I was lead for the Phillies until I 368 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: started talking to gms and they said, clearly the Mets. 369 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: They like what the Mets did. In fact, they said, 370 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: went to Phillies, go get Cedric Mullins. He would have 371 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: been a lot better fit than Harrison Bader. They thought 372 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: the Phillies too, even though they made them big move 373 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: and Duran should have even got another reliever in there. 374 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: I know they got David Roberts in, but you know 375 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: he's a grapshoot, who knows how he's gonna pitch, you know, 376 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: missing a entire season. People love that what the Mets did, 377 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: and you talk to gms, they say they already gave 378 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: up anything for what they got too, so they gave 379 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: a lot of great to David Stearns said he got 380 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: the most for giving up the little geez. 381 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: Well, he keep saying this was you know, no one 382 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: gave up anything except the Potters, the only person gave up. 383 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: They got what seven big league players back, So you know, 384 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: apparently you didn't have to give up much to get 385 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: a lot back, Bob. But I want to know you 386 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: keep saying some of these gms are difficult to deal with. 387 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Is that because they're too afraid to lose a deal, 388 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: and they're too afraid that their twenty ninth best prospect 389 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: is sometime, you know, five years from now going to 390 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: turn into a good player. 391 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: I think that's it. 392 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look at a j Peller, I mean he 393 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: gave up you know, those guys that get Juan Soto. 394 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: The trade was disaster. I mean, it wasn't a good 395 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: fit in the clubhouse. They didn't do anything with them, 396 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: but at least they were able to flip them back. 397 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: But you know, a j Peler has no regret for 398 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: making that move. 399 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: You go for it. 400 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean even if you go back to the old 401 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: days when Detroit Tigers, you know when they traded John's 402 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: smallest to Atlanta for Joe Alexander Alexander exactly what they 403 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: wanted Raindy Johnson, exactly what Houston wanted that year. 404 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, too many teams are afraid of. 405 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: That, and I think sometimes you know, these teams know 406 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: their prospects anybody else, even the great short stop that 407 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: the pottery's created to Seattle, I mean, trade it way 408 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: to the Athletics. They say, he's not a shortstop. He's 409 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: gonna have to play third base or first base. So 410 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: they know him anybody else, but they're not. They didn't 411 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: really blink about trading them. 412 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get because AJ's are smart, Bob, don't ever 413 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: forget that ajs are the smartest people in the game. 414 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: Okay, we know you are, we know you are. 415 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: You earn your first He's in GM on TV, which 416 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: is great. It works out really well. You get all 417 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the benefits and you don't have to listen to someone 418 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: above you. 419 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: Right, not bad. 420 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: Sometimes I have to try to listen. 421 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: That's true. 422 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: That's true, and. 423 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: That's a GM said. They say a lot of quantity 424 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: in this trade, but there wasn't that many quality of 425 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: prospects exactly. Inspect what people are saying they thought, maybe 426 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: like thank you. Really good players. 427 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: Have moved right right the top five for most teams. 428 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: The contenders stays put. When I was looking the next day, 429 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: here you're looking at Baseball America and cracking open the 430 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: prospect list. So hey, good job by them, Bob. Great 431 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: work yesterday. It was fun to follow. Thanks for hopping 432 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: on with us and everyone. Check out his Winners and 433 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Losers article, among other things. In USA Today always puts 434 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: out great notes on the weekend as well. 435 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: Thanks Bob. Thank you. Guys have great weekend.