Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
Speaker 1: I'm Kat, And today's quote comes from one of our listeners, Melissa,
Speaker 1: who emailed it to us. She said, Hey, Amy, I
Speaker 1: just saw this quote and thought about your recent episode
Speaker 1: with Cat. I think it's because we were talking about hobbies.
Speaker 1: Like Kat has all kinds of hobbies. Right now, she's
Speaker 1: doing everybody's nails, like everybody in Nashville. You need your
Speaker 1: nails done, go over to Cat's kitchen. It will take
Speaker 1: me three hours, but it's looking good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She does painting classes also in her kitchen, and soon
Speaker 1: to be pottery classes. She'll tell us more about that
Speaker 1: in a minute, because she just ordered a pottery kit.
Speaker 1: But Melissa sent us this quote. Every time I think
Speaker 1: I have a new hobby, it turns out i'd just
Speaker 1: like to buy stuff. And I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was just unboxing things before Kat got to
Speaker 1: my house and my face cupping tool came in the mail.
Speaker 1: I am still doing. Face fitness is not a hobby,
Speaker 1: it's a lifestyle. And my cupping tool is like, you know,
Speaker 1: apparently I haven't even used it yet. I just pulled
Speaker 1: it out of the box and it's going to like
Speaker 1: suction to my face and.
Speaker 2: How does are you supposed to stick it on your
Speaker 2: face and leave it there? No?
Speaker 1: You do like, like, have you ever had a cupping
Speaker 1: done on your body or seen it done? I'm an Olympian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never personally needed it for whatever reason. I'm not
Speaker 1: an Olympian, but I've had cupping done before, and it's
Speaker 1: like glides across the face and like suctions like and
Speaker 1: then and you do it to your forehead. But I
Speaker 1: know there's rules, like this is a bigger cup and
Speaker 1: I'm only supposed to use it on certain parts of
Speaker 1: my face and there's a smaller cup that you use elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is my algorithm now because
Speaker 1: it's what I talk about and everything that pops up
Speaker 1: in my for you page or whatever. Is face fitness interesting.
Speaker 2: We have very different algorithms, but it's interesting because face
Speaker 2: fitness is something that you really could do with yourself
Speaker 2: and no real products. But now you're probably getting targeted
Speaker 2: for all of these fun, fun tools you can get
Speaker 2: to make your experience even better. And that's where the
Speaker 2: shopping addiction hobby comes in.
Speaker 1: I know I could see myself ordering more tools, but
Speaker 1: that actually looks kind of cool. Yeah, And I'm not
Speaker 1: spending money on botox, so.
Speaker 2: You're saving money because that's cheaper than botox.
Speaker 1: That is my hobby. There you go, saving money. That's
Speaker 1: my hot heck, it's a heck. Maggie. My cat is
Speaker 1: in here with us, and cat was just looking over
Speaker 1: at her therapy cat. He was looking at my cat, Maggie,
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh my gosh, she looks like
Speaker 1: a human. And I said, oh my gosh, I have
Speaker 1: to tell you what I told my boyfriend today this morning.
Speaker 1: Early this morning, he had to leave for like a
Speaker 1: work trip, so he was up early, and I guess
Speaker 1: his colleague they were traveling together and they were going
Speaker 1: to be in the car for a long time, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. For whatever reason, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if I come up, it's like, you should just tell
Speaker 1: him that I'm I too, because we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about red flags this relationship. Even thinking back on it now,
Speaker 1: the fact that he had to listen to me say
Speaker 1: this and then process it like it might be a
Speaker 1: red flag, Like I don't know if later today when
Speaker 1: he gets back, if I'm gonna have a boyfriend, I said,
Speaker 1: what are y all going to talk about? Like, y'all
Speaker 1: need to talk about interesting things, like if I come
Speaker 1: up like you should you could tell him about me,
Speaker 1: but you should tell him that I was raised by cats.
Speaker 1: And see what he says, and I'm like, and don't budge.
Speaker 1: Just go with it, be like, yeah, she was raised
Speaker 1: by cats, and these say like people named cat or
Speaker 1: actual cats. You should just with a straight face as possible,
Speaker 1: just be like, no cats, she was raised by cats.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm Another potential red flag question also has to do
Speaker 1: with my cat.
Speaker 2: Did you do this?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just having in my head only to myself.
Speaker 2: Though, Oh you kept this one in you had enough
Speaker 2: self awaren just to say it. I did this?
Speaker 1: Okay. So I ordered some new cat food and it
Speaker 1: came in, and I was I put the cat food
Speaker 1: in this clear tupperware thing, because when you open it up,
Speaker 1: Maggie doesn't like it. If it's been if like air
Speaker 1: has touched it for too long, like I guess, it
Speaker 1: gets stale. For so I realized if I put it
Speaker 1: in an airtight container like su'l, she doesn't get turned.
Speaker 2: Off by it.
Speaker 1: And cats are very picky. I'm pretty sure if they
Speaker 1: don't want what you're serving them, and they don't have
Speaker 1: access to more food, they'll just not eat wither away.
Speaker 1: But the cat food came in and there's this really
Speaker 1: beautiful cat on the packaging, and I feel like when
Speaker 1: I was opening it up to put it in the container,
Speaker 1: Maggie made this weird face and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that was weird. And I was like, Maggie, She's like
Speaker 1: looked at me, like what, And I said, oh, I
Speaker 1: know what it is, Maggie, And then I started this
Speaker 1: whole story. I was like, you're mad because your sister's
Speaker 1: a model now and she's living in New York modeling
Speaker 1: for cat food, and you are sad that you're stuck here.
Speaker 2: Wait so this was just in your head. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm saying it to her, but nobody was around.
Speaker 1: Nobody was around.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're just having conversations in your head, your cat.
Speaker 1: But it was this whole thing about how her sister
Speaker 1: is the cat model for this cat food and she's mad.
Speaker 2: Because she's living here.
Speaker 1: She's living here and her sister's living her best life
Speaker 1: modeling for this cat food company in New York City,
Speaker 1: and Maggie can't even go outside, like she's she.
Speaker 2: Can't even go outside. So what a sad life you live?
Speaker 1: I know, But is that weird.
Speaker 2: Before you had a cat.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I've been doing weird things lately.
Speaker 1: Like here's another one. My son he woke up and
Speaker 1: walked into the hall like we were waking up it
Speaker 1: was morning time. And then I looked at him and
Speaker 1: I was like, like, a what year is it? And
Speaker 1: he was like twenty twenty five and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay. I was like I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: seeing like electricity and there's all these machines and I
Speaker 1: have this machine in front of me that's like uh beeping,
Speaker 1: and it's got time on it, all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: he's looking at me and he's like what is wrong?
Speaker 1: And then we go down into the kitchen and I'm
Speaker 1: like what is this machine? And it's a dishwasher and
Speaker 1: he's like what is happening? And I'm like Steven said,
Speaker 1: I swear like we're over by the laundry stuff now too,
Speaker 1: and I'm like what is this? And I'm like I
Speaker 1: swear when I went to bed, like we used to
Speaker 1: have to hang dry our clothes and then with the toilet.
Speaker 1: I was like, I used to have to just go
Speaker 1: out into the yard and do what was he saying?
Speaker 2: He just was like, Mom, you're crazy, You're crazy.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I went to bed and it
Speaker 1: was eighteen hundred something and now you're telling me it's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I kept it up for but he
Speaker 2: didn't believe you did.
Speaker 1: A little bit. I mean, he just kept looking at me.
Speaker 1: But he thought once I was he realized I was
Speaker 1: just totally joking with him. Like he died laughing, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I think there's just something to
Speaker 1: just play, like even with our kids. He's fourteen, but
Speaker 1: he was able to giggle with me and then he
Speaker 1: started being like okay, mom. And I hope that that
Speaker 1: encourages him to play more. I mean, obviously, when I
Speaker 1: start talking to Maggie about her model cat's sister, she
Speaker 1: can't play back with me because she's a cat, or
Speaker 1: I laugh.
Speaker 2: With you because she's a cat.
Speaker 1: I do think that maybe there's something inside of me
Speaker 1: that just wants to play.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I had a brain appointment last week. Did it unlock something?
Speaker 2: But also, do you think you're just in a lighter
Speaker 2: mood lately, maybe because of some of just your life circumstances.
Speaker 1: I do wonder though, Like I had my neurofeedback check
Speaker 1: up appointment, and I wonder if it just sort of
Speaker 1: unlocked something that's like be playful. Yeah, have conversations with
Speaker 1: yourself more so than you do, like on the next level,
Speaker 1: because I've always sort of talked to myself, but now.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking to other people as I'm talking to myself. Right.
Speaker 1: So, anyway, are these red flags.
Speaker 2: Depending on the person, they could be, but maybe they're
Speaker 2: green flags for who you're dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he likes says things like you're funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that any of this stuff is
Speaker 1: like hilarious funny ha ha, but more just like you're funny,
Speaker 1: like you're ridiculous, like you're you don't take life too seriously,
Speaker 1: not like you're crazy. Like this feels in alignment with me.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I could have done this stuff
Speaker 1: like first date.
Speaker 2: No, I think if you did that, if you told
Speaker 2: him that you were raised, well, actually that could have
Speaker 2: been really funny if you did it to him on
Speaker 2: a first date and he's like, so tell me about
Speaker 2: you childhood and you're like, well, I was raised by
Speaker 2: a cat, cats, cats, multiple cats. Yeah, I was raised right,
Speaker 2: It could have been funny depending on the person, or
Speaker 2: could have and like, oh I went on those date
Speaker 2: with this girl where she told me she was raised
Speaker 2: by cats. I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that leads perfectly into the conversation of
Speaker 1: not everything is a red flag, because it could end
Speaker 1: up being good, Like it could be warning, but then
Speaker 1: it could be good of like, maybe this is a
Speaker 1: sign you need to loosen up, Like why are you
Speaker 1: taking life so seriously? What's wrong with me getting up
Speaker 1: and acting? Like when I went to sleep it was
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety eight. I always wanted to live in the
Speaker 1: Gilded Age.
Speaker 2: Wait was it you that I was just looking up
Speaker 2: with the Gilded Age.
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, we talked about it on a recent episode
Speaker 1: because I love that show, The Guilded Age. Oh yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: But I said, I for sure needed to be part
Speaker 1: of high society, but like the nice ones, because there's
Speaker 1: really snobby, mean ones. But I just want to I
Speaker 1: want the amenities because life back then was a little hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think depending on when it comes to
Speaker 2: red flags, green flags, yellow flags. There there are some
Speaker 2: things like okay that you need to pay attention to,
Speaker 2: but most of the things that people call red flag
Speaker 2: are just dependent on who the person is. Wouldn't you agree,
Speaker 2: like it would be a red flag for you, but
Speaker 2: not a red flag for me some things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that it's another one of those
Speaker 1: buzz things we see on social lot, speaking of algorithm,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times you can just be fed
Speaker 1: a bunch of red flag stuff and then it makes
Speaker 1: you start to think that certain things are red flags
Speaker 1: when it can turn you away from a relationship with someone,
Speaker 1: and then you're missing out.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think when that thought of it turning
Speaker 2: you away, when you're thinking about that, then you are
Speaker 2: clocking all of the weird things that you don't like,
Speaker 2: versus paying attention to all the things that you do. Like.
Speaker 1: Let be more about what we're for, not what we're against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I love that, But I also do like
Speaker 2: talking about people's red flags.
Speaker 1: But okay, I agree sometimes that can be entertaining. I
Speaker 1: just think the main conversation is not everything not everything
Speaker 1: else flag.
Speaker 2: Yes, for example, I dated somebody who refused to wear
Speaker 2: theater when they.
Speaker 1: Worked out only when they worked out.
Speaker 2: Only when they worked out, they would put it on,
Speaker 2: they put on after, They would put it on after.
Speaker 2: But they re used to wear deodar when they worked
Speaker 2: out because it swore that sweat doesn't smell. It only
Speaker 2: smells after it's dry. So it would be a waste
Speaker 2: of deodorant to wear it while you're working out, because
Speaker 2: it wouldn't You're not going to stop you from sweating,
Speaker 2: mostly because you're gonna sweat anyway, and it's not gonna
Speaker 2: smell until later. So I guess they thought they were like,
Speaker 2: you know, pulling one over on the deodorant industry and
Speaker 2: saving a bunch of money. I thought it was very strange,
Speaker 2: and we continued to argue about that forever. But that
Speaker 2: was not a reason to end that relationship. It was
Speaker 2: it was weird, not about flat.
Speaker 1: Had he done the cost analysis of a bar? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like, because I'm trying to even it's like any well.
Speaker 2: I even was like I'll pay for the deodorant if
Speaker 2: you just want to wear it, And it was like
Speaker 2: one of those things you're just like, no, this is
Speaker 2: a hill I'm gonna die on. I'm not wearing Theodora
Speaker 2: when I work out. I never understood why they were
Speaker 2: so stuck on that where they wouldn't budg rum. I'm like,
Speaker 2: if it just makes me happy, just put the on.
Speaker 1: But he didn't smell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to admit his sweat. He didn't smell
Speaker 2: when he worked out. So it was hard for me
Speaker 2: to really have a point because he was right. But
Speaker 2: I looked it up. Sweat doesn't smell until it is
Speaker 2: either mixed with the air or dry. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but like actual sweat doesn't have a smell.
Speaker 1: Like Maggie's ude when it mixes with air.
Speaker 2: I swear my if I don't wear deodorant when I
Speaker 2: work out, I swear I can't, Like I don't want
Speaker 2: to be around myself. So it was very weird that
Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe I don't know. He has
Speaker 2: something this works for him anyway.
Speaker 1: One of my old hobbies used to be that I
Speaker 1: would make my own deodorant. I gave up on that
Speaker 1: hobby because I started to just buy the deodorant that
Speaker 1: was the exact same ingredients because I do a natural
Speaker 1: one and I love the one I'm getting. I've gotten
Speaker 1: it for years. I can't think of the name.
Speaker 2: Right, I probably pure kind for a while.
Speaker 1: I've never tried that.
Speaker 2: Well. I didn't like it because it turned all my
Speaker 2: It's like their charcoal didean. But it turned my like
Speaker 2: bras because it was like all natural, so it started
Speaker 2: getting like white on my clothes.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just thought of my when I bought the
Speaker 1: aluminum kind while you were saying that, No milk, no,
Speaker 1: don't do that, No, go back. My milk and honey
Speaker 1: is the brand of mine, and I do the vanilla one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I used to get my own, all my
Speaker 1: own little ingredients, and I would whip up my own deodorant.
Speaker 2: Was it like a stick or like, did you just no?
Speaker 1: I just keep it in a jar and just put
Speaker 1: it in my fingers and then put it on.
Speaker 2: Okay, he really wouldn't be wearing that.
Speaker 1: It was awesome though, I mean literally the kind I'm buying.
Speaker 1: The reason why I like to buy it better is
Speaker 1: whatever I was doing, it was just melt all the time,
Speaker 1: like especially if it was hot out like in my
Speaker 1: little jar. And maybe I had too much coconut oil.
Speaker 1: But however they're whipping this up, it stays at least.
Speaker 2: But that was just for smell, not for sweat, so
Speaker 2: it would make your armpits smell better, but you're not
Speaker 2: going to stop yourself from sweating. I guess I think
Speaker 2: that's what the aluminum does. No, that's the antiperspriant, right,
Speaker 2: So that's what stops you anti persperant.
Speaker 1: But what's the aluminum.
Speaker 2: That's what they put in.
Speaker 1: You can't get an anti persperant without aluminum.
Speaker 2: That's just deodorant makes you not smell. But if it's
Speaker 2: an antiperspont deodorant, it stops you from sweating as much too.
Speaker 1: Okay, I used to use that stuff way back in
Speaker 1: the day, which who knows what kind of I U
Speaker 1: stuff that was doing for me. No, no, no, not
Speaker 1: that the the you'd buy it at the drug store
Speaker 1: and you'd roll it on and it would stop you
Speaker 1: from sweating.
Speaker 2: The clinical strength. Yes, well, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people use that kind of stuff when they're growing up
Speaker 2: because through puberty, like your armpits sweat a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, fun fact about me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna brag about not having sweaty armpits.
Speaker 1: Actually just gonna say I hate the word armpit. I
Speaker 1: like under arm.
Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't sound better.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like just now when you said it. I was like, oh, cringe.
Speaker 1: And I was watching a TV show the other day.
Speaker 1: What show was it that I was watching? And they
Speaker 1: said armpit? Maybe it was younger She said something about
Speaker 1: her armpit, and I was like, Oh, don't say that.
Speaker 2: How dare you say that word? Underarm does sound much better?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just something about armpit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know red flag. If you say armpit,
Speaker 1: don't say with words. I don't like moist either, but
Speaker 1: I think I that word doesn't dislike armpit more. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just said it. I don't like saying it. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry responsive you said yeah, because then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: why am I saying it? And then to anybody else
Speaker 1: that has an aversion to that word. Maybe it's because
Speaker 1: the cats that raised me they don't have.
Speaker 2: Armpits.
Speaker 1: They have under armed they have under legs, or they
Speaker 1: have two under arms and then under legs.
Speaker 2: Would you call that an arm I think that she
Speaker 2: has four legs?
Speaker 1: What? No, I guess that is how It depends on
Speaker 1: how we look at it. But I see how dogs
Speaker 1: have arms and legs. Wait, am I, I'm sure you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're right. I just have always looked.
Speaker 2: At them as like hats and dogs don't have arms.
Speaker 1: No, they well they have their arms and their legs.
Speaker 2: They have hind legs.
Speaker 1: Then how do you say, Okay, you would say the
Speaker 1: front leg Sure, yeah, okay, that's fine if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about pets that way. But I like to
Speaker 1: say that they have arms. This is this whole episode's
Speaker 1: of red flag, like don't date me.
Speaker 2: Well you're the one raised by cat, so I guess
Speaker 2: you know what they want their front legs to be called.
Speaker 1: So when we stop looking at everything as a red flag,
Speaker 1: and this could be in any human we're talking about dating,
Speaker 1: but it could be in any relationship, could be in
Speaker 1: a friendship or a work relationship. If you pause and
Speaker 1: not look at everything as like this red flag and
Speaker 1: maybe see it as beige, or maybe it eventually becomes
Speaker 1: endearing right and you like it about them. This makes
Speaker 1: room for personal growth. It could be something that this
Speaker 1: person literally outgrows what you maybe need to grow, at
Speaker 1: least room for growth for all, because it could be
Speaker 1: something like this is like a season of their life,
Speaker 1: depending on how they're behaving. Like, for whatever reason, the
Speaker 1: last week, I've just been more silly don't judge me
Speaker 1: for my little games this last week that are playful.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have never had any of these
Speaker 1: conversations before in my life.
Speaker 2: Sure, No, I never.
Speaker 1: I've never made up a story about you know, the
Speaker 1: cat on the cat food bag. I've not ever pretended
Speaker 1: like I was born in another century. And I have
Speaker 1: never asked a man to tell his coworker that I
Speaker 1: was raised by.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get all these emails, being like I went
Speaker 2: on a date with Amy and she told me she
Speaker 2: was raised by No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I've never done this. Okay, ever, and to be fair,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be the one delivering the news. It
Speaker 1: was gonna be him delivering it.
Speaker 2: True, true, true. Well, also I think with red flags
Speaker 2: things like I'm just throwing things out there, but if
Speaker 2: if you start dating somebody and maybe they aren't making
Speaker 2: a lot of money, or they're in between a job
Speaker 2: or they I don't know, just little things like that
Speaker 2: where people would would say, oh, red flag, like he
Speaker 2: just lost his job or he just quit a job
Speaker 2: or whatever. Some of that also is like is he
Speaker 2: building something that did he quit a job that was toxic?
Speaker 2: Like we can't take everything I mean, or is he
Speaker 2: just not gonnot want to have a job. There's different
Speaker 2: degrees of that versus just looking at things as they
Speaker 2: are plainly you have to kind of zoom out and
Speaker 2: see what the bigger picture is, Like you're talking about
Speaker 2: with talking to your cats and pretending you're a different world.
Speaker 2: Is she hallucinating or is she going through this phase
Speaker 2: of life or she's more silly and isn't taking life
Speaker 2: so seriously. You know, I think we kind of narrow
Speaker 2: those things down to be things and they mean things
Speaker 2: that they aren't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody comes without flaws, by the way, Well.
Speaker 2: And I always would say that of I can't judge
Speaker 2: somebody that artually. Maybe that's why I was with the
Speaker 2: guy that didn't wear toyoder right, because I don't want
Speaker 2: somebody looking at all the annoying things that I do
Speaker 2: and been like ooh, she did this, or her hair
Speaker 2: was cut this way, or she wore this type of shoe.
Speaker 2: Like you. People can get really picky with that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like, oh, they wear flip flops, and it's like
Speaker 2: that's not a reason to not date somebody. You might
Speaker 2: not like the flip flops, but am I not going
Speaker 2: to throw away the opportunity to get to know somebody
Speaker 2: because I don't like their style.
Speaker 1: Okay, that just reminds me about this one guy right
Speaker 1: out of college that I went on a date with
Speaker 1: and he wore a white belt and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't go out with him again. Why I saw
Speaker 1: it as a red flag, but clearly I needed to mature.
Speaker 2: Was a white belt like a I don't know, you
Speaker 2: just had an aversion of white belts.
Speaker 1: I thought he was really cute. He's the guy I
Speaker 1: was at the gym and going to the parking lot
Speaker 1: and he stopped me in the parking lot and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: would you like to do something? Sometimes I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, good old fashioned meet somebody in the gym parking.
Speaker 2: Lot and then they wear a white belt and ruin it.
Speaker 1: And then he wore a white belt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've grown, I've grown. Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would be into the white
Speaker 1: belt today.
Speaker 2: You gotta be honest if you give them a second chance, Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't, Yes, like I need to go on a
Speaker 2: day with you. Can you just not wear that belt
Speaker 2: so I can see?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is not a deal. Breaker. We can
Speaker 1: work on this. I can eventually sup my way into
Speaker 1: your closet and get rid of that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like with the Red Flags also, I
Speaker 2: think it's been rebranded as X. You know you've heard
Speaker 2: that shortly. If you give me the next okay, you
Speaker 2: look at me like you didn't know I was talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you taught me a couple slang words, like
Speaker 2: I cooked last week, so you have to know itck.
Speaker 2: I think it's become like fun to like bring these
Speaker 2: things out in a game, and then it just like
Speaker 2: creates an idea in your head, like if you're coming
Speaker 2: up with all these ix you have towards your partner
Speaker 2: or the person you're dating, so we need to create
Speaker 2: a game or a trend where you're finding all the
Speaker 2: good things about somebody.
Speaker 1: The reason why I gave you the look is because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm unsure if I put them in the
Speaker 1: same category. Really, red Flag and X, I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I don't think you're wrong,
Speaker 1: but I guess I was more contemplating that in my
Speaker 1: head because I feel like an ick to me is
Speaker 1: a fraternity tattoo on your ankle, and you're in your
Speaker 1: forties now, and it's like, shoot, dang, why do you
Speaker 1: make that decision?
Speaker 2: But would you go back out with them?
Speaker 1: Yes, But I'd be like, we're not still making bad decisions,
Speaker 1: are we?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I've heard some of my clients that
Speaker 2: are younger and they're dating, they've talked about like, oh
Speaker 2: I was seeing this guy and then he did this
Speaker 2: thing and he gave me the ick and I just
Speaker 2: couldn't ever see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that's like, you're right, you're probably hearing
Speaker 1: more of that type of talk from that. Just like
Speaker 1: I saw him hold an umbrella once, what No, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with holding an umbrella?
Speaker 2: That's my point of like, or like I saw him
Speaker 2: like run holding something and like gave me the ick.
Speaker 2: I think that's the point where I'm like, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Some of these are funny, like oh I have an ick,
Speaker 2: where like I can't, I can't see a guy hold
Speaker 2: an umbrella, But then it really gets in your head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still now I'm now I am seeing the
Speaker 1: ick is like something different than red flag. Like I'm
Speaker 1: seeing like red flag.
Speaker 2: Red flag is like oh bad idea that person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it just it is like, I'm not attracted to you, right.
Speaker 1: So I guess my ick was the white belt.
Speaker 2: Yes, it because he gave me.
Speaker 1: He gave me the ick. So now we're sorting this out.
Speaker 2: So red flag is that she thinks she was raised
Speaker 2: by cats.
Speaker 1: We're millennials. We're trying to figure this out. So the
Speaker 1: ick is the stupid little stuff that's like, uh, ick,
Speaker 1: But red flag. Sometimes what we want to encourage you
Speaker 1: to do, all of us to do, is not everything's
Speaker 1: a red flag. Is like if there is even something
Speaker 1: you notice, it's like, seems to be like a character thing,
Speaker 1: but if you put it into perspective of were they
Speaker 1: responding to something in this moment that's very contained to
Speaker 1: this or is this.
Speaker 2: Overall who they are? Yes, like that's where, Yes, you
Speaker 2: put that so perfectly I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've learned it from my cat. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: probably you cat, you being cat. I'm sure you probably
Speaker 1: said it that way at some point you're the therapist.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you put that pretty nicely where, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you zoom out, is this a character thing or
Speaker 2: is this just in the moment something that's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't thing you need to ignore your gut like
Speaker 1: in the moment, like if you have a strong gut
Speaker 1: feeling about something that you know, like, oh, but I
Speaker 1: probably need to lean into this little more just in case, see,
Speaker 1: like if you're unsure or ever unsafe like this like
Speaker 1: red flag, Like is this just in the moment or
Speaker 1: is he psycho crazy?
Speaker 2: Why? As you were saying that, I was thinking like
Speaker 2: if somebody texts too much, if somebody's texting you and
Speaker 2: texts you three times in a row, send a triple text,
Speaker 2: you might be like red flag, like he's too needy,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But what if you guys had plans
Speaker 2: and he just like was nervous because you were late
Speaker 2: and thought something happened to you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like is that is he really over communicative and too
Speaker 2: clinging for you? Or is something in the moment happening
Speaker 2: you know? Right?
Speaker 1: That makes me think of an example of being on
Speaker 1: time for something, like if it's a first or second
Speaker 1: date and they're five minutes late and you see it
Speaker 1: as like, oh, he must not really beat that into me,
Speaker 1: like he's not making me a priority or he's this
Speaker 1: respect Like if it's just happening that one time. That's
Speaker 1: not who the perspective is. Yeah, overall, you don't know
Speaker 1: who they are. You have to it takes time to
Speaker 1: get to know that. Now, if you start dating him
Speaker 1: and he's just late all the time, then you have
Speaker 1: a decision to make. But it's not a red flag.
Speaker 1: If he's five minutes late on the first or second date.
Speaker 2: That could have been the only time that guy ever
Speaker 2: wore a white belt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. He's favorite belt. I got
Speaker 1: some batborn is my favorite belt vibes like I showed
Speaker 1: up looking my best, like this is what I wear
Speaker 1: on my.
Speaker 2: D Amy's gonna love me in this white belt now?
Speaker 2: And then I was like, what him know that I've
Speaker 2: ever clocked somebody wearing a white belt now that we're.
Speaker 1: Talking right now, this was two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Well, I was alive during then. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm like, well, Kad, this was eighteen.
Speaker 2: Sixty two in the Gilded Age. Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I might have had a white yeah, but you having
Speaker 1: a white belt. It's very different than a guy having
Speaker 1: a white belt.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I had it, but I remember
Speaker 2: people wore the gramat white belts with like the holes
Speaker 2: in them. You know what the little grama. You know
Speaker 2: what a grama is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know who that is.
Speaker 2: You know those They had him in black too, but
Speaker 2: people wore them in white. I swear.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, maybe I just wasn't in on. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was you white, Maybe it wasn't he.
Speaker 2: Maybe I you're the red flag.
Speaker 1: I'm the red flag. Well, I think it's obvious that
Speaker 1: I am. After this conversation. I think it's very obvious
Speaker 1: I need help. And I guess we'll find out if
Speaker 1: he ended up saying that on the car conversation. I
Speaker 1: tried to call him earlier to get an update on
Speaker 1: if they had the conversation or not, and I guess
Speaker 1: they're busy working or something because he didn't answer it
Speaker 1: is a work trip. So then I just sent a
Speaker 1: text saying does so and so I fit the person's name.
Speaker 1: I think it's weird. I was raised by cats and
Speaker 1: he just sent that face palm emoji where the guy's
Speaker 1: like oh, fitting his face in his hand, like oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then that's it. He hasn't communicated with
Speaker 1: me yet, but I'm going to take that as he
Speaker 1: didn't ye take the challenge.
Speaker 2: Is this somebody he knows? Well, Yeah, I missed that. Okay,
Speaker 2: it would be even weird if it was like a
Speaker 2: newer colleague.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's like a colleague that like, let's
Speaker 1: just say, like his job. He's pretty high up. But
Speaker 1: this person is part of like a company that's there,
Speaker 1: like investor like, so then that would make this person,
Speaker 1: I guess, like a boss. I don't really know exactly
Speaker 1: how it works. Maggie's been doing okay ever since she
Speaker 1: learned her sister as a model, and.
Speaker 2: She looks just fine.
Speaker 1: Is she She's pretty? She just sleeps all day. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Kara was in here and she didn't make a peep
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 2: She's very good.
Speaker 1: So we're almost gone. Are the days where pets are
Speaker 1: gonna be with us? Kat and I are going to
Speaker 1: start filming every episode and no animals will be allowed.
Speaker 1: Will be in the new podcast room that I'm working
Speaker 1: on at my house, and we're just gonna be way
Speaker 1: more buttoned up and official. But until then, it's the
Speaker 1: wild wild West.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be sad to not have car next
Speaker 2: to you? No, as much as you get frustrated with
Speaker 2: the noises, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I like her. I think I'll be around
Speaker 1: her enough. But we're we're cat and I are up leveling.
Speaker 2: So wait, wait up leveling? Yeah, did you mean to
Speaker 2: say leveling up? No, it's up up leveling. I'm not
Speaker 2: It's not gonna make fun of you. I just didn't
Speaker 2: know if this is another way to say it. Up leveling?
Speaker 1: What does it mean having greater capabilities or a higher
Speaker 1: version number? Up leveling? What is up leveling? Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the literal meaning. Up leveling means going up
Speaker 1: a level i e. To the next level. It's a
Speaker 1: bigger jump than just a small incremental increase.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's your vocab word of the week. But I
Speaker 2: think you did mean leveling up.
Speaker 1: No, okay, what does up level mean? In business? It
Speaker 1: means doing the hard work to get you or your
Speaker 1: business to the next level, up leveling.
Speaker 2: So what does leveling up mean? Then?
Speaker 1: Maybe it means the same thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what? Up leveling sounds more prestigious and
Speaker 2: leveling up. It's kind of like armpit and underarm.
Speaker 1: What is a synonym for up leveling? And it's to
Speaker 1: propel forward, to rise to the next level.
Speaker 2: Take it up?
Speaker 1: A notch succeed elevate one's game.
Speaker 2: But not leveling up.
Speaker 1: Well, leveling up may mean that, but I guess I'm
Speaker 1: used to saying up leveling because of business.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, you really do say that.
Speaker 1: I'm a business person, cat, I'm.
Speaker 2: From the Gilded Age and we do business there.
Speaker 3: I praised by business cats. They are very, very well
Speaker 3: respected in the business game.
Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody else existed.
Speaker 1: I had to be like, people are gonna think we're drunk,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing dry February too. I just finished dried January,
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna I'm level to February. Because well,
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that to give your liver or really
Speaker 1: good tea tucs, you should have stained from alcohol for
Speaker 1: six weeks, And so if I already made it to
Speaker 1: four weeks, then might as well go two more. And
Speaker 1: then maybe on Valentine's Day, I'll have a glass of wine.
Speaker 2: Why Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: Yes, because what are you about to say about cats?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say if I still have a after today.
Speaker 1: We were at the liquor store, like around Christmas time,
Speaker 1: and he was buying some gifts and he ended up
Speaker 1: getting like a really good bottle of red wine. He
Speaker 1: was like, we'll save this and we'll have it for something,
Speaker 1: and so I think we're gonna have it on Valentine's.
Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet. Wait, I have to share what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I don't think I said this earlier. What I'm doing
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. I told you my pottery.
Speaker 1: Thing, her hobby, her new hobby.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've been trying to get into pottery for a while.
Speaker 2: The classes are very expensive, and they do them in
Speaker 2: the community center like Nashville does them, and they're cheaper,
Speaker 2: but they're so hard to get into. Anyway, I was
Speaker 2: going to sign Patrick and I up for a Valentine's
Speaker 2: pottery class, but it was pretty expensive, and so I
Speaker 2: was kind of like on the fence, I found why
Speaker 2: are you looking at me like that?
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you to tell people.
Speaker 2: I found a at home pottery kit, Like it's just dry,
Speaker 2: like air dry pottery. You don't like put it in
Speaker 2: the kiln because I would totally buy a kiln. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm looking.
Speaker 1: At you like them like wait for it for Kat's
Speaker 1: cans to start teaching pottery classes. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, earlier I mentioned Catt. I'll tell you more
Speaker 1: about that, because she's gonna be holding pottery classes and
Speaker 1: might get rid of her oven in her kitchen and
Speaker 1: replace it.
Speaker 2: With a kill. Okay, this was only fifty dollars and
Speaker 2: it comes with enough clay to make like six things.
Speaker 2: So I told Patrick, we're going to have it at
Speaker 2: home Valentine's Day pottery class. I saved one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars by and now you have a Valentine's Date. Yes, exactly, something.
Speaker 1: To do, and you saved money.
Speaker 2: So everybody. I forgot where what the company was, but
Speaker 2: I'll post it somewhere.
Speaker 1: By well, I can link it in the show notes
Speaker 1: if you can find it by the time the show
Speaker 1: notes go up. Okay, then we can link it.
Speaker 2: And if you want to take a class from me,
Speaker 2: I'll probably be teaching them about six weeks.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could do it virtually. Actually, people could get
Speaker 1: their little pottery kits. Yes, in the mail.
Speaker 2: I can create my own pottery kit and sell them.
Speaker 1: I'm about to get my starter for my sour dough
Speaker 1: and I'm making my own bread. I know I'm five
Speaker 1: years late on this trend.
Speaker 2: I think people are picking it up now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but I feel like twenty twenty was
Speaker 1: really the time that I should have taught myself.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but now people have perfected their recipes, so
Speaker 2: it's gonna be better for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like I keep it pretty simple back in
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundred how we used to do it. It's
Speaker 1: just three ingredients. But I got to get a Starter.
Speaker 1: But apparently there's this one bakery here in town. You
Speaker 1: can go get it, and their starter is one hundred
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you can get it from my
Speaker 2: mom for free, but that sounds pretty sweet, but also
Speaker 2: sounds crazy.
Speaker 1: A hundred year old, it's just been multiplying for one
Speaker 1: hundred years.
Speaker 2: That kind of weirds me out. I think my mom
Speaker 2: bought hers off of like Etsy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people do that too. So I had a friend
Speaker 1: that ordered one like that and it was okay, Like
Speaker 1: she was making okay bread, and then she went to
Speaker 1: this bakery to the hundred year old thing, and she's like,
Speaker 1: bread is next level. She's doing everything the same, but
Speaker 1: it's just better.
Speaker 2: It's local here. Oh, I have time mom. My mom
Speaker 2: has found a way to make everything out of Starter.
Speaker 2: That's her life now.
Speaker 1: That is her hobby.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be me with pottery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, will you make pottery, I'll make bread.
Speaker 2: I can make a pottery bowl and you can put
Speaker 2: the bread in the bowl. Okay, and we can sell
Speaker 2: them together like you can sell your bread and helping
Speaker 2: this too. Don't know this in my head. This is
Speaker 2: gonna blow up.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, we have other things we need to
Speaker 1: work on, but like business wise.
Speaker 2: It could be we could weave it in somehow, well.
Speaker 1: We could weave it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do.
Speaker 1: So back to that our business that we're working on,
Speaker 1: it's up leveling. We're about to up level up in here.
Speaker 1: So no dogs, no cats except for cat therapy cat
Speaker 1: cat Vanburen. No cats with a C, only Katherine. Can
Speaker 1: you want to go by Cat or Katherine when we up.
Speaker 2: Level Well, if we consult with the business cats, they'd
Speaker 2: probably say Catherine because it's more sophisticated. But I think
Speaker 2: I'm kind of stuck with Cat.
Speaker 1: So we'll be up leveling to Amy and Catherine.
Speaker 2: What's the long form of your name, Amelia? Beautiful name Amy, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: I love the name Elizabeth. Okay, Amy, Elizabeth and Catherine's
Speaker 2: pottery and bread classes.
Speaker 1: Should I get rid of Brown? I mean, I did
Speaker 1: get divorced.
Speaker 2: You would have to change so much stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just mean professionally should I I
Speaker 1: mean I like having the same last name for my kids.
Speaker 1: But I did notice that my ex has me and
Speaker 1: his phone now as Amy and my maiden name. No way, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like.
Speaker 2: Which, I get it.
Speaker 1: We're divorced, so that's fine, but that's still your li
Speaker 1: that his contacts like he synced some of them up
Speaker 1: with our son's phone. So then my son had me
Speaker 1: in his phone as my maiden name, and I was like,
Speaker 1: wh wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2: Well what was you? What were you in his phone
Speaker 2: when you're married?
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably like wife, wife or yeah, he
Speaker 1: was in mine as husband, which I get for him.
Speaker 1: Why would you put me in as Amy Brown? Because
Speaker 1: we're divorced now, but it is still my name name?
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't really know. I don't really
Speaker 1: know how to handle because professionally am Amy Brown. My
Speaker 1: kids are still Brown. My mom always kept her married
Speaker 1: name after my parents were together forever, but she died
Speaker 1: with my dad's last name, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: my dad A lot of people do that your wife
Speaker 1: felt about that, but whatever, Like, if I ever get remarried,
Speaker 1: I would take my new husband's last name, but professionally
Speaker 1: I would still be Amy Brown, unless when we up
Speaker 1: level I just go ahead and make the switch to
Speaker 1: Amy Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: I don't get the rationale.
Speaker 1: Well, it just gets rid of any and then I
Speaker 1: can get married and voice anime as.
Speaker 2: But people who are very famous, like Hayley Bieber, who
Speaker 2: was I can't remember her old last name, Baldwin. I
Speaker 2: was trying to be dramatic.
Speaker 4: I was kidding, but like, of course you would take
Speaker 4: Bieber's last name.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What did she do before
Speaker 1: I get you as a famous child? Did she at?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Was a model?
Speaker 1: Okay, so she was a model.
Speaker 2: I know other people have done this. I just can't
Speaker 2: think of that.
Speaker 1: Her changing her name up levels everything to Beeper. Of
Speaker 1: course she changes to Beeper. It's not going to up
Speaker 1: level anything. Even my name right now doesn't give me
Speaker 1: any like she Baldwin. She has more like do you
Speaker 1: know mean Amy Brown's there are I can't even get
Speaker 1: Amy Brown dot com because Amy Brown is a fairy
Speaker 1: artist and charity has this.
Speaker 2: You should google this before you make the decision. People
Speaker 2: in the media who change their last name when they
Speaker 2: get married.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really think it's going to impact me
Speaker 1: that much. I just don't know that I'm not known
Speaker 1: as Amy Brown, so I don't think it's that big
Speaker 1: of a deal, like I think it could be. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. But right now the podcast is
Speaker 1: four Things with Amy Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so up levels.
Speaker 1: That's our cue to go, cars making noise. We just
Speaker 1: want to thank all of our loyal listeners that are
Speaker 1: still listening at this point.
Speaker 2: No matter what our names are, no matter what.
Speaker 1: Our names are, maybe you have a story where you've
Speaker 1: gone through this professionally and you've gotten divorced, Like what
Speaker 1: do you do?
Speaker 2: We could up level to Amy Elizabeth and Catherine Mary.
Speaker 2: That's my name, so many names for people to remember.
Speaker 2: They sound very professional names, Amy Elizabeth, you sound like
Speaker 2: somebody from the Gilded Age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could talk about all things eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: That's what we're too.
Speaker 1: We're gonna like to know, like to know it. All
Speaker 1: of our outfits and dresses and umbrellas.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is it Gilded Age? When they
Speaker 2: like churned butter and stuff or is that a long
Speaker 2: time ago?
Speaker 1: I think some people still churn funder. But like the
Speaker 1: light bulb was invented then, I only know that because
Speaker 1: Thomas Edison was on one of the episodes.
Speaker 2: You could upload your original light bulb that still works
Speaker 2: to this day. Huh from the Gilded Age. I told
Speaker 2: you about the light bulbs, how they've changed the way
Speaker 2: they've worked.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you said they were supposed to last
Speaker 1: seventy five years. Yes, and then your lightbulbs. We need
Speaker 1: a light bulb that's gonna last forever. But that's so
Speaker 1: many things. M hmm. There's really trying. Everybody's just trying
Speaker 1: to get us to spend more money. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: cat and I we're gonna be We're going to give
Speaker 1: you our podcast. We're gonnakeep giving you our podcast for free,
Speaker 1: but we may up level to some other things that
Speaker 1: would be things added value that you could invest in
Speaker 1: for yourself.
Speaker 2: Like sourder starters and pottery kids.
Speaker 1: Our cooking show. But else Okay, I think this is
Speaker 1: Houston's like, what is happening? Hi Houston? He's editing and
Speaker 1: he's probably like, why is this still going?
Speaker 2: A cat?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Cat van Buren.
Speaker 1: And I am at Radio Amy and I will see
Speaker 1: y'all on Thursday. I'm gonna have my dermatologist on. Oh,
Speaker 1: kinds of questions like how often you should be showering,
Speaker 1: how often you should be washing your hair.
Speaker 2: What temperature water to use? In the show we are?
Speaker 1: Do you know that's lukewarm?
Speaker 2: Okay, well it would be nice to hear from them.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, but whenever I said it, I said,
Speaker 1: my dermatal, I mean yes, coming from his voice, you
Speaker 1: mean like it has more credibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no offense, thank you.
Speaker 1: Lukewarm showers, but like how long should they be? And
Speaker 1: then because boyfriend, my boyfriend, he doesn't he won't shower
Speaker 1: every day. Sometimes he'll just lean in and like wash
Speaker 1: his hair because he doesn't want to dry his skin out.
Speaker 2: And my word deidurant. So oh, I feel it.
Speaker 1: If I had learned this early on, it might be
Speaker 1: an ick.
Speaker 2: But now I'm like, wait, what's the rationale of not
Speaker 2: showering your body?
Speaker 1: He says, we don't need to wash our skin every day.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm going to talk to my dermatologists.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I want to take two showers a day.
Speaker 1: I know, he says I shower too much.
Speaker 2: He washes his hair more than he probably should wash
Speaker 2: his hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know honestly how
Speaker 1: many days he can go without a shower and he
Speaker 1: doesn't smell.
Speaker 2: But it's probably because he's wearing deodorant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he doesn't. He tells me a shower too much.
Speaker 1: And then the other day he was like we were
Speaker 1: on the phone. He was like, hold on, I gotta
Speaker 1: go just stick my hair on the water real quick.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, why aren't you just getting
Speaker 1: in the shower. And He's like, I'm not gonna wash
Speaker 1: my body today. It's not my body washing day.
Speaker 2: I also just like love taking a shower, so do I.
Speaker 1: I love taking a bath too. But we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about this sort of stuff, like if you like taking
Speaker 1: hot baths, like what do we do for our skin?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then scalp health. Dermochild just focused a lot on
Speaker 1: scalp health. I didn't realize.
Speaker 2: That really, so like is dry shampoo bad for our health? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do have a question for him about dry shampoo.
Speaker 1: And then other things like some stuff is just is
Speaker 1: this trendy and good marketing or do we need to
Speaker 1: buy it? Or what drug store things do you really like?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about face fitness?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about facial cupping.
Speaker 1: Let's see what he says. If he says, whatever, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, I'm to be like, you're a liar.
Speaker 2: What are your credentials? Anyway?
Speaker 4: You say you're double board certified. You went to Harvard,
Speaker 4: right diploma, So anyway, I'm hoping he doesn't. If he does,
Speaker 4: want to be like gott Ney Botox, just object me.
Speaker 2: Now you have to go to bed. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's time for you to like reach that.
Speaker 1: Okay, bye bye