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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Hey, we're back. We're on ambition.

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Speaker 2: Hey, mandral Hey remember last week when I said that

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Speaker 2: I had an immaculate immune system and that I definitely

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to give COVID.

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Speaker 3: It was funny.

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Speaker 2: During the course of that episode, I felt my lymph

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Speaker 2: node swelling, and by the time that afternoon came Homegirl

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Speaker 2: was positive. So but at this point it's been a week.

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Speaker 2: I am on the other side of the COVID cave.

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Speaker 3: Y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good, But thank y'all for all of your kind

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Speaker 2: words and shout out two daycares who still make the

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Speaker 2: baby stay home for ten days and even if you're

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Speaker 2: sick too, there's no there's no sick notes for parents.

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Speaker 2: They don't give you emergency daycare.

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Speaker 3: Nope.

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Speaker 2: But Homeboy is going back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And I cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: They had Home Life if I needed a reminder, the

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Speaker 2: stay at home mom life is just not meant. It's

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Speaker 2: not my calling, it's not what the Lord has intended

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Speaker 2: for me. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Well, you look great despite the COVID.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it also feels like I've got major deja vu

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Speaker 2: because I don't know deja vu. For the third time,

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Speaker 2: it feels like this is what our third or fourth

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Speaker 2: recession in the past ten twelve years of us Well,

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Speaker 2: I feel like in our show, we've had a couple

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Speaker 2: of recessions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Oh no, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: We're podcasters, we better it.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to one of our producers, Dais

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Speaker 1: about that. They're like, why does everybody walk run around

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Speaker 1: like when the chicken with their head cut off? Like,

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Speaker 1: didn't we just go this literally like a year or

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Speaker 1: so ago, like the fire drill. We've had this fire

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Speaker 1: drill before, like go to the exits, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I guess this time people are just like, wait, but

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Speaker 2: there's not a pandemic to blame, so what could it be?

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Speaker 2: And it's even like a little bit scarier, I guess,

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Speaker 2: And it may not feel as if you're in Like

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Speaker 2: in the pandemic, it was like no one's fault. It's

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Speaker 2: just this virus and you know, it's out of control.

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Speaker 2: And businesses, of course, they have to change.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's like we're reaping what our businesses are reaping what

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Speaker 2: they've sewed, and the they're just you know, making changes

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Speaker 2: and cutting costs in the wake of the pandemic. There's

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Speaker 2: the economy has been through it. She's tired, she's she's

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Speaker 2: creaking and cranking, and also she's been yanked and stretched

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Speaker 2: and that all these different directions, the FED going that

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Speaker 2: way you know, one minute.

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Speaker 1: And this way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know they are elected officials and the policymakers,

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Speaker 2: and you know they are doing what they can to

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Speaker 2: manipulate things positively, but there are repercussions, you know. I

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Speaker 2: think it's if I could go back, I feel like

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Speaker 2: experiment with you know, livelihoods at stake, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to diminish that at all. But let's see what

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Speaker 2: happens when you give people a bunch of stimulus. And

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Speaker 2: let's see what happens when Russia goes to war with

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Speaker 1: Industry to raise, and the housing market gets crazy, and

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Speaker 1: you know, so there's this interesting article that I read

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Speaker 1: was like, Manda, did you see this thing about Amazon?

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Speaker 1: They had this internal memo that was the leaked I

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Speaker 1: that Amazon, when they enter and they build like a

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Speaker 1: experienced rocket ship growth. That is a pun because you know,

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Speaker 2: Wait, no, it was both of them.

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Speaker 1: M it was both.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Bezos.

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Speaker 2: You right, you're right, You're right, soire.

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Speaker 1: So because of like this, like you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: of course Amazon was already growing, but I mean, I

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Speaker 1: So they're doing everything from giving people upwards of like

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Speaker 2: It's just really fascinating, like warehouse roles, Like what types

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Speaker 2: of jobs are they? They're mostly wear copper Amazon right.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not corporate Amazon so much. I think it's

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Speaker 2: So for example, lets me think about all the unions

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Speaker 2: You know? I just wonder how much of it is

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Speaker 1: To Well and which is kind of crazy. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: and so like, how can we tie this back though

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Speaker 2: lot of talk about tech layoffs and we have seen

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Speaker 2: Some of the biggest ones even on here are in

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Speaker 2: the retail sector. And when you think about why, you know,

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Speaker 2: hoarding all that spending, you know, increased demand on retailers

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Speaker 2: to shop anymore, so we need to now decrease. So

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Speaker 2: if you have like a retail product specific kind of business,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the takeaway is okay. So what other

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Speaker 2: I generate to be well diversified so that I can

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Speaker 1: I still be a Target, don't target, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: I still be there.

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Speaker 1: But I was also thinking too, because you know how

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Speaker 2: to normalcy.

434
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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's going to be a dip, like literally,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, we probably will like we went in our

436
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Speaker 1: peak ten million dollars a year for one of our companies,

437
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Speaker 1: and then maybe we will make five or six. But

438
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: that's part of the pivot, you know, because I knew.

439
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this pivot is going to allow us

440
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Speaker 1: to potentially grow to fifty million. But if we don't

441
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Speaker 1: make these changes. We can't and the changes that are

442
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Speaker 1: going to require us to take talent away from our

443
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: day to day operations into this, and so we don't

444
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: have to take this temporary l maybe for two years,

445
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Speaker 1: maybe three, but I think we can do it in

446
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: two where it's going to look like a little business

447
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: really slowed down. It didn't. It's just transformed. And then

448
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: this new way that we do business that we've introduced

449
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: will allow us to maintain the growth that we seek

450
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Speaker 1: versus like, because we were doing what Amazon was doing well,

451
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Speaker 1: not really because Amazon I was huge, but we were

452
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: doing this rocket ship growth, but it wasn't as sustainable

453
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Speaker 1: as I would like, and it's very stressful to grow

454
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: very quickly in that way. I was like, Hey, I

455
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: don't want to do business like that anymore. How do

456
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: we do business that it is slow and steady, but

457
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Speaker 1: something that's sustainable. So I'm excited, like for what that

458
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: kind of looks like. And I have like a I

459
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Speaker 1: have a couple of other things that we're working on

460
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Speaker 1: that I'm I'm like, let's see, because here's the thing

461
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: too that I like to do. I like to practice

462
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: when it's safe. So in the mentee. Like with my mentees,

463
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: I get to practice, and if it doesn't work out,

464
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know it didn't work out, Like

465
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Speaker 1: I don't need the mentorship money in order to run business,

466
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Speaker 1: and so I will practice a thing and see, well,

467
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Speaker 1: how many people sign up to be my mentee?

468
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Speaker 3: Well what if I do this?

469
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Speaker 1: Okay? Well what if I do that? Okay? And so

470
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Speaker 1: I like to practice with like kind of these side

471
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Speaker 1: projects to see what works and what doesn't work, so

472
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: I can if it doesn't work out, you know, that's fine,

473
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Speaker 1: But if it does, I can take that lesson I've

474
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Speaker 1: learned and then put it toward the business that our

475
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: core business that we really don't have time to be

476
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Speaker 1: practicing with. So honestly, that's why I mean I I

477
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: business is just fascinating to me, like second to financial

478
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: education is the thing that I'm really enjoyed, Like the

479
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Speaker 1: business of business, like how do you get here? How

480
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Speaker 1: do you stay here? How do you market? How do

481
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Speaker 1: you you know? And so, yeah, it's just it's stressful, certainly,

482
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Speaker 1: sometimes not as many much as it used to be,

483
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Speaker 1: but it's just you know, if you're fortunate enough to

484
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Speaker 1: get to a place where you can do and make

485
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Speaker 1: these sort of choices. It can really It's just really

486
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Speaker 1: fascinating to see like what's capable, you know, and what

487
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Speaker 1: you're capable of.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my, it's my I just had my

489
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: first year in business, and I feel like everything I

490
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: did last year that I just did, you know, we

491
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: didn't wait till it was perfect, but just started doing it.

492
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: Just started doing career coaching before I had a website,

493
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: just started, you know, coming up with ideas for articles

494
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: I could write for different outletes and outlets and pitching them,

495
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: and started building the Mandy Moneymakers program and built it

496
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: as I went, and it wasn't perfect to start with,

497
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: and have made each cohort better and better. I think

498
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Speaker 2: that that was one of the smartest things I did

499
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: as a as a baby entrepreneur, was getting the stuff

500
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Speaker 2: done and not waiting for it to be perfect. Because

501
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Speaker 2: I've had I've I've done things thoughtfully and as carefully

502
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Speaker 2: as I could. I wasn't like all out there willy nilly,

503
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: and I did you know so much, like so much

504
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: focus grouping and like asking people what they wanted and

505
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: all of that. It's very thoughtful, but I still I

506
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: got out of my own way in a sense, so

507
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: that I can actually get stuff done. So now I

508
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: have the infrastructure to I think, be even more successful

509
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: during this recession. I think y'all question if I'm a

510
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: good career coach. No one has actually questioned that. I

511
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: think I'm great.

512
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: I think y'all have been supportive.

513
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: Y'all been listening to me talk about it for seven years.

514
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: But I love I'm excited about.

515
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: The opportunity to help people, help women navigate this situation,

516
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: like navigate this economy in your career. I'm the best

517
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: person for it. I've done it myself like two or

518
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: three times and still manage to do all that I've done.

519
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, damn yes. So it's not just

520
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: that I'm doing what I want to be doing, but

521
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: the time as now, like that the moment has come,

522
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like when the timing is right,

523
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: and sometimes when you're building it, it may not feel like, Okay,

524
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: the demand is there, maybe there is some demand, But

525
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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be ready for the moment. You know,

526
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Speaker 2: if I had waited, I may not have been ready

527
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: to meet the moment. I may not have had enough.

528
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: My business, my business structure. Yes, foundation there. I wasn't

529
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: ready for the twenty twenty. I remember thinking, you know,

530
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: huge brands were born in twenty twenty, you know who

531
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: built started building audiences then. And I was like, well,

532
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: I was, I was in I was in a different journey.

533
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: I just have had a baby and I was righting

534
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: that wave and all of that, and I'm like, yes,

535
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: you know this is this is like the business version

536
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: of financial business double Dutch. And I'm finally ready to

537
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: get in there and find my rim, you know what

538
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Speaker 2: I mean.

539
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Speaker 1: I don't call a baptismal fire, you know, like people

540
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: are they're born through the fire. Like it's like we're

541
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: about to go through this recessional fire and out will

542
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: come these amazing especially financial brands, because people are going

543
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: to be leaning into folks like you, you know during this time.

544
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: So I'm excited.

545
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: It seems to be able to help, to feel like

546
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: we can help. And I'm like, dang, this is probably

547
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: what you've been feeling like all this time too. It's like, Okay,

548
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: mission service all aligned with what people are wanting right now.

549
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: That feels good. I mean, I'm not necessary, I'm just

550
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: trying to I'm I'm accelerating some plans that I had,

551
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: and I'm definitely like, Okay, it's going to be a

552
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: busy ass summer. So how can I ask for the

553
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: help that I need to get this special work done?

554
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: And just recognize that I've been I've been able to

555
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: really have a decent schedule for a while. But not

556
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: only is more work coming, I'm planning, you know, lots

557
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: of webinars and lots of you know, additional group coaching programs,

558
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: and it's all really exciting. So it's going to be

559
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: I think, I just want to seize the opportunity, you

560
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I see the next six

561
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: months being busy or busier, busier than ever, and trying

562
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: to figure out, Okay, so what resources do I need?

563
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: You know, what help do I need? Because I know

564
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: I can't do it alone and I don't want to

565
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: be I don't want to be silly enough to think

566
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Speaker 2: I can, So figuring out how to hire some help

567
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: is on my plate for sure. And I had asked

568
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: you too, you know, in the influencer space, I think

569
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: as influencers, we have we being mindful of what happens

570
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: when there's recessions. I think, for what could go down

571
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. Is potentially

572
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: the amount of marketing dollars that you know, partners have

573
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: to spend on folks like us and using us as

574
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: advertising and your relationships are longer and deeper and all

575
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: the kind of thing. I'm a newbie, so and in

576
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: that case, you know, brand partnerships is a piece of

577
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: my business, but it's not the whole thing. I've got

578
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: like six or seven different income streams and I love

579
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: that because I don't feel like I'm going to be

580
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be ended, you know, because a

581
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: partnership won't work out.

582
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Speaker 1: You want to be cure other I would say, like, brand

583
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: partnerships definitely take up more now than they ever have

584
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: before for me, only because I charge way more now,

585
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: you know. And so so it's definitely a bigger piece

586
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: of BUDGETISA than they were. But because I was I

587
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: was intentional, just like you. I was like, I don't

588
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: want to be like I don't want to be the

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: brand partnership girl, and then I'm not the hot girl

590
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: no more and they move on. But something that you

591
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: should consider too, that I have found that people are

592
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: paying a lot of money for is more and more

593
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: speaking engagement, so like positioning yourself. So if you're if

594
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: you're an influencer and you're listening and if it makes sense.

595
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of brands now who are

596
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: coming to me, not necessarily to you know, be like

597
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: a like a hey, post this thing on your social media,

598
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: but honestly I'm getting a lot of Tiffany, can you

599
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: come to speak to our people? And so and so yes,

600
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: And I love it because because what they're seeing is

601
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: this thing that I just had a call. I don't

602
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: know if I'm allowed to send well, let's just say

603
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: don't break the NDA. No, there's no DA That's what

604
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm just. I don't know if to say aitherway. It's

605
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: a big HUQO, huge multi yeah. We just it's a

606
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: huge company that you know, maybe your parents took you

607
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: there when you were little, you know what I mean,

608
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: when you were good. Anyway, So I just had a

609
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: call with them and I'm doing like a speaking gig,

610
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: and that's.

611
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: What it's for.

612
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: It's not to share the world like you know, where

613
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: your ears you know that it's invented like we want

614
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: to change, it's.

615
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Where is ticket Disneydies.

616
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Yes. So it's like this huge, you know, like multi

617
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: national global company and they're they're knowing that we're shifting

618
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: into this space, and they're wanting the employees to give

619
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: them like a holistic I guess, like holistic perspective on

620
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: what they can do to prepare and see their way through.

621
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, when I tell you, there are like one

622
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: of five that I've done in the last month or so,

623
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing over and over. We want

624
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: our employees to be okay, we want to like they're

625
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: looking at it as partly as their wellness program. Like

626
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: one company, like it shocked me because I thought like

627
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: they wanted me to talk about finances. She's like, no,

628
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I saw your IG live where you said you were

629
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: back ish and how you talked about how you're actually

630
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: taking a step back. And I was like wow. So

631
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: it was with this big financial company and they didn't

632
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: want when you talk talked to them about money. They

633
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: wanted me to talk to them about about what is enough,

634
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: not overdoing and not overworking, creating work life balance. I

635
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: was like, what, So I just say all that to

636
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: say that that there are ways to shift even within

637
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: your space. Like, Okay, it's not just hey, Tiffany, tell

638
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: them that our secure credit card is so great, but hey,

639
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: can you come internally and talk to our people about

640
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: preparing for oversession or like, you know, like what does

641
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: it look like to use their money as a tool

642
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: toward their overall wellness goals? And so I found out

643
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: to be interesting and great. So there are you know when,

644
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: like I said before, when you do and you bring

645
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: excellence to the table, people will seek you out. Like

646
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't pitch myself. I haven't had to

647
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: just yet. You know, it's been fifteen years I've never

648
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Speaker 1: pitched myself. And as a result, but if you show

649
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Speaker 1: up and to Mandy's point, to be visible, get that micro.

650
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Speaker 2: You share your story, Yes, someone who can saying you know,

651
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Speaker 2: and thenslated and opportunities followed exactly.

652
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Speaker 1: So I just it's exciting times, you know, Like you know,

653
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Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a lot of hard times

654
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of folks. But you can you can

655
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Speaker 1: decide that you are going to see what you can

656
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Speaker 1: do to leverage this to push you to the next level.

657
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, those are the two options. You can be down,

658
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: You can be pessimistic, You can think that this is

659
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: like the end, or that things are going to you know,

660
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: change and they're going to be worse, or you can

661
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Speaker 2: think this is opportunity, this is when this is when

662
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Speaker 2: stars are made, This is when opportunities are born. And

663
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Speaker 2: what do you want your story to be? And I

664
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Speaker 2: feel like my story has always been door number two

665
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Speaker 2: in that equation, and I feel like Tiff two, And

666
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Speaker 2: I feel like if you're a part of the BA fan,

667
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Speaker 2: you gotta choose door number two. Yeah, we gotta seize

668
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Speaker 2: this moment. Whatever that moment means for you. It may

669
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Speaker 2: it may feel scary right now, but keep rocking with us.

670
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Speaker 2: I just feel like we've always never failed in that

671
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: level of realistic optimism because we just know that there's

672
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Speaker 2: going to be these lulls and there will be great

673
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Speaker 2: rises at the same time. I'm and will you be

674
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Speaker 2: ready for that? I think you will and.

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Speaker 1: You I would love to know some of the pivots

676
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to make with this upcoming recession.

677
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: You can tweet us at the BA podcast. That's your homework.

678
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna start giving you weekly homework. Okay, tweet us

679
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: at the BA podcast and let us know my pivot.

680
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Speaker 1: My BA pivot is going to be x y z.

681
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Speaker 1: We would love that. Your Mandy Money on Twitter as well, Right.

682
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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even really use Twitter.

683
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Speaker 2: IG's where it's at, Mandy Money on IG. I do

684
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Speaker 2: check BA Twitter at the BA podcast. We're at Brand

685
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Speaker 2: Ambission podcast on IG. Where else can you find us?

686
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Speaker 2: Follow us on TikTok, y'all, we're all at on TikTok.

687
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Run Emission podcast is on TikTok, and we were early

688
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Speaker 2: enough to actually get our handle.

689
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Speaker 1: Who finally, everybody else like with their one followers that

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Speaker 1: talk about I'm Brian ambition, y'are.

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Speaker 2: Not that.

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Speaker 1: I know? Yeah, yeah, tell us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, career money, pivot, business pivot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we'd love to all of it.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't have one plan, just listening to

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Speaker 2: this episode, I hope that you're thinking of what is

697
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Speaker 2: it that you can control and what is it that

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Speaker 2: you can do to meet this moment that we're in

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, meet your moment.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a little commercial break and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be back with brown Boots. Brown break almost forgot. I

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Speaker 1: was like, wait, what do we come back with? It

706
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Speaker 1: and we're black and back. It's brown boost and brown break.

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Speaker 1: Do you have that boost? Do you have a break?

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Speaker 1: I have like a really quick break, I mean really

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Speaker 1: quick boost. Let me see if I can find the

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Speaker 1: name of this. So I have been eating, so this

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Speaker 1: is where it is, Okay, I have been eating so

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Speaker 1: much better. So I don't know, like as I've gotten older,

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Speaker 1: like I finally like start to listen to my body whatever.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I uind out rub me a long

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Speaker 1: time ago because child no. And then I realized that

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Speaker 1: chicken ain't really my friend a whole black girl. And

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Speaker 1: the level of bloat, the level of bloke that I

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Speaker 1: get when I have chicken and seafood. I can still

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Speaker 1: do like you know, salmon and things. But when I

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Speaker 1: was vegan, that's honestly when I was my healthiest.

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Speaker 3: But I ain't going.

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Speaker 1: Back, Like I'm not going back to vegan, like I

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Speaker 1: already can't have dairy just because lactos and toler I'm like,

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Speaker 1: give me something to live for. So so, but I

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Speaker 1: have been trying it. So I would say I am

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Speaker 1: seventy to eighty percent vegan during the week because like

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Speaker 1: you know, so I mostly because I don't eat chicken,

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Speaker 1: you know hot I know, and I don't eat my

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Speaker 1: I don't eat red me. I can't have dairy. But

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Speaker 1: there has been this really great black owned, women owned

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Speaker 1: restaurant in Bellefue, New Jersey's Jersey. And even though I

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Speaker 1: know something y'a don't live in New Jersey, sorry for you,

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Speaker 1: but I really wanted to shout her out. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Nikki, and she owns this restaurant called Sell Power

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Speaker 1: Cel Power p O w w er Sell Power Cafe.

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Speaker 1: And when I tell you, she is single handedly keeping

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Speaker 1: me like joyful with food because the food is really healthy.

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Speaker 1: I mean like she's got this curry chick people with

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Speaker 1: quenewa and and you can get kingwa the curry chickpeas

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Speaker 1: tomato and what is that spinach? It is so good.

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Speaker 1: She's got this this like salmon bowl, her salmon wrap,

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Speaker 1: her shrimp wrap. I mean everything it's I've been eating it.

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Speaker 1: And like when I'm like I can't have another salad

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is I'm eating, like that's what I

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Speaker 1: order at least like once or twice a week. Her

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Speaker 1: her smoothies are amazing. Honestly, I have to just shout

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Speaker 1: to Nikki because she said that one she's a she's

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Speaker 1: a fairly new entrepreneur. I think it's only I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they've been open for a year. She said,

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Speaker 1: this is how she always cooked for her family, and

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Speaker 1: her friends were like, basically, girl, this could be a

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Speaker 1: restaurant and it's doing well, and I just love to see,

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Speaker 1: like when I go in there, we talk business, we

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Speaker 1: talk finance, and she's slaying. And to see her daughter

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Speaker 1: work there too, and to see this black woman with

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Speaker 1: this it's not a it's not a restaurant restaurant, like

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Speaker 1: it's one of these like you know, like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to call it like a sandwich lunch, like you

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Speaker 1: maybe like a few two or three people could sit

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Speaker 1: in there, but you know, I order your uber eats.

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Speaker 1: Nikki be knowing me. She's like, I can always tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, can you switch out the ground vice

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Speaker 1: for King? And can you see I'm the Queen of swap.

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Speaker 1: I'm like a tiff And she's like, I know, but

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Speaker 1: they are so good. Sell Power Cafe. They're just just

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Speaker 1: just amazing. Like so if you go to sell POWERLLC

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Speaker 1: dot com c e l L the word power LLC

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Speaker 1: dot com that is that is their website. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to say, like, she's just so dope. Like literally,

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Speaker 1: I've called her being like, oh, the Uber eats guy

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Speaker 1: stole my smoothie because that's happened, and she's been like,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, because she's like I gave her smoothie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well girl, he didn't give it to me,

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Speaker 1: and so she will drive and like drop off a smoothie.

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Speaker 1: She's just I just love to see small businesses that

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Speaker 1: really take pride and like, how can I delivered the

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Speaker 1: best value, the best service, the best food, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: just shout to Nikki and to sell power and that's

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Speaker 1: my that's my boost. I just love to see us win,

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Speaker 1: winning out here and making sure that you know I

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Speaker 1: do I keep I snatched it and keep it together

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Speaker 1: with my veggies.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna make me want to order lunch now, damn.

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Speaker 1: So well, next time you gome visit, we're gonna eat

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Speaker 1: some cell power. You gonna d it.

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Speaker 2: I had a bag of soggy apple jacks that Rio

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Speaker 2: just damed to give me on the way home from

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Speaker 2: the park, So yeah, mommy, I'm done with these. Let

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Speaker 2: me do a quick brown boost. I'm gonna do a

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Speaker 2: brown boost because I'm so excited. I mentioned I'm gonna

791
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Speaker 2: be doing more webinars. I want to talk to the pioble.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to the people about their careers,

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Speaker 2: and I want to shout out a free, free webinar,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent free. It's gonna be like two hours long.

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Speaker 2: I always pack so much into these webinars. It's going

796
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Speaker 2: to be me talking to you guys about how to

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Speaker 2: recession proof your career. I've done it, you can do it.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. It's going to be like all about how

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Speaker 2: to stay resilient, score new opportunity, and thrive no matter

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Speaker 2: what the hell is happening in the economy We've been

801
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Speaker 2: talking about. I'm talking about everything like how the economy

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Speaker 2: is actually going to impact your career. I'm going to

803
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: do an industry by industry breakdown because we're going to

804
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: fight fear with facts. That's what we do. We like

805
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: to actually look at what industries are actually being are struggling,

806
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: what skills people are really hiring for. Because I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: I'm still getting coaching clients who are getting huge paydays

808
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: and exciting career opportunities, like in spite of what's going on.

809
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Speaker 2: And I'm huge on talking about professional brand so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to do a whole mini workshop of what I

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Speaker 2: do for Mandy money Makers on professional branding and help

812
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: you stand out on LinkedIn. So we're going to drop

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Speaker 2: a link to register. I register in the show notes

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Speaker 2: for BA, but join me. It's going to be Monday

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Speaker 2: or sorry, Tuesday, June twenty eighth. Please dear Lord, tell

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Speaker 2: me I got the date right, yes, So that is

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Speaker 2: you guys listening to this on Wednesday. That's just tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So you guys got like six days to register for

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Speaker 2: the Recession Proof your Career webinar hosted by Yours today,

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Speaker 2: and I hope y'all come out June twenty eighth at nine.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a late night, nine. I got to

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Speaker 2: get the baby down nine pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna ask you all day.

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Speaker 1: Is there is there a maximum amount of people that

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Speaker 1: can come?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so I got the I got the

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Speaker 2: expensive version of webinar jam okay, ye should be good,

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Speaker 2: all right, and actually get a couple hundred. But I'll

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Speaker 2: be excited if y'all.

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Speaker 1: Come will they be able to get, like get the

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Speaker 1: replay afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, of course, So the replay will be available

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Speaker 2: for like forty eight hour seventy two hours afterward. But

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Speaker 2: you definitely want to show up in person because I

836
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Speaker 2: got a little for an extra freebee, an extra freebee

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Speaker 2: kit that I'll tell you guys more about if you

838
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Speaker 2: register to get all the details on the freebie that

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Speaker 2: you're going to get. I have not done a free

840
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: webinar like this since March, and before that it was

841
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: like December. But like I said, I'm ready to meet

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: the moment, y'all, So please.

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Speaker 1: Name of the episode me meet the moment, the moment.

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Speaker 3: No, I love that.

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Speaker 1: So you'll get the link for a Andy recession proof

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Speaker 1: your career, which I love now more than ever. That's

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Speaker 1: a re important. That link will be in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: We'll put the cell Power LLC in the show notes too,

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Speaker 1: so you can go ahead and show. Well, that's if

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Speaker 1: you live in this area.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, if you don't.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna be like, uh, we don't deliver to San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: She will go tell her Tiffany. She doesn't even know

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Speaker 1: me as a budgety, I don't think. Just be like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany sent me. Well, you can say Tiffany the Budgetissa,

856
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: but I don't think she knows me. She's just be

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Speaker 1: like Tiffany, that girl that orders every damn day I

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Speaker 1: have herself. Well, I'll be like Nikki when you put

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Speaker 1: my she what I know, she's so annoying with me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, but yeah, so that's awesome, Maddie. I

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Speaker 3: We hope you meet your.

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Speaker 1: Women and you enjoyed. And if you did enjoy, and

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Speaker 1: especially with this looming recession, please tell a friend if

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Speaker 1: you want to see your way through. You've got myself,

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Speaker 1: You've got Mandy. We are here to come and listen

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Speaker 1: to this podcast because honestly, it's just gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great space for you to understand what business is going

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Speaker 1: made a nice year too. The struggles that we're having

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Speaker 1: just you know, bring bring your friends on over, your

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Speaker 1: people's on over, so we can work through these things together.

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Speaker 1: You are not alone and as you navigate on this journey.

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Speaker 2: So like a Branda vision front porch, Well, come on,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're saying. Yeah for like boomer podcasters.

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Speaker 2: tell you about the last two three processions we survived.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited, and I know I feel a little

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Speaker 2: about meeting the moment, right, that's what we're here for.

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Speaker 3: See y'all next week.

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Speaker 2: and A question.

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Speaker 1: Yep. If you could have questions, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: send us a question via Insta via our website Brownhamision

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Speaker 1: podcast dot com and we answer them every Friday. So

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Speaker 2: By Friday. Then hey, ba fan, we could not do

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Speaker 2: this show without your support or the support of our

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Speaker 2: team behind the scenes. The brown Ambision podcast is produced

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Speaker 2: by Cumulus Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: It's edited by the.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful Emani Crosby and produced by Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky

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Speaker 2: is our in house tech guru, and I am Bandy

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Speaker 2: Woodrid Santos your co host, and I will see y'all

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Speaker 2: next week