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Speaker 1: Am I wrong for denying my husband a two week vacation?

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Speaker 1: This is OKAYOP, Home of the craziest stories on the Internet.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sam John Sophia. Do you think OP is wrong?

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Speaker 1: Got check?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, all right, I don't care. So.

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Speaker 1: My husband and I have been married for twelve years

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Speaker 1: and have two kids together, where one has special needs.

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Speaker 1: We live close to my hometown in Europe, while his

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Speaker 1: family lives around the US. We used to be able

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Speaker 1: to afford to visit once a year. The cost of

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Speaker 1: living has increased lately, and the extra cross of bringing

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Speaker 1: two kids makes it more difficult as well. I wish

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Speaker 1: we were able to go at least twice a year,

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Speaker 1: and seeing my husband missus, family and friends is hard.

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Speaker 1: Last year, his depression got worse and he said that

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Speaker 1: he needed to visit home. He wanted all of us

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Speaker 1: to go, but we didn't have the money and I

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Speaker 1: didn't have more vacation days left. At that point, I

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Speaker 1: told him that if it's going to be possible at all,

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Speaker 1: he would have to go alone. We got into an

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Speaker 1: argument about how long. I said a week and a

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Speaker 1: half tops, but he wanted longer. Not long after, he

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Speaker 1: told me that he had booked a trip for two

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Speaker 1: weeks and four days. That was not what we had discussed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of juiciness to this story. Is the

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Speaker 1: husband the a hole for doing what he did. So

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Speaker 1: basically what he did is he's like, I need to

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Speaker 1: go back to visit my family. I'm depressed. I need

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Speaker 1: to go back to the U. What it was the UK? Right, Europe? No,

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Speaker 1: you my hometown in Europe. Yeah, but he's, oh, we

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Speaker 1: live close to my hometown in Europe. His family lives

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Speaker 1: in the US. Yeah, So he wants to go back

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Speaker 1: to the US. Yeah, and they don't have enough money

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And they were arguing back and forth like oh, maybe

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Speaker 1: just a week, and he's like I want more. And

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Speaker 1: then he's just like, fuck it, I'm booking a two

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Speaker 1: week trip in four days. I don't care what you say,

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Speaker 1: red flag or not a red flag.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna say red flag.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a red flag. I understand

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Speaker 4: wanting to see your family like that. I think he

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Speaker 4: should absolutely get to see his family, but I think

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Speaker 4: the money issue and also having two kids, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: like not confirming with your partner, yeah, even though you

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Speaker 4: have to like two weeks.

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Speaker 1: But not confirming with your partners. Yeah, it's it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty that's pretty bad. I mean, like because it's

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Speaker 1: it's like they should still they should still talk about it. Also,

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Speaker 1: a bit Voyage solution says, not caring about financial impact

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Speaker 1: is messed up. Yeah, because like again, like Sophia said,

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Speaker 1: kids have kids to think about.

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Speaker 2: It financial impact and the time off work as well,

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Speaker 2: like OPI's literally like I can't afford or have the

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Speaker 2: time to go. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So not only is OP going to have to work

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Speaker 4: more to potentially like cover the cost of this, but

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Speaker 4: also this is you know, we don't know if they

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Speaker 4: have full time daycare for their children.

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Speaker 3: It might have been a split, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the streets raised them. Yeah, let the streets raise them.

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Speaker 1: So I ended up having to switch around my night

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Speaker 1: shifts and a twelve hour shift. I worked seven days

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Speaker 1: a week both before and after his trip. During his trip,

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Speaker 1: I worked about eight and took care of our kids

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Speaker 1: alone after work. So she's like having to work twice

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Speaker 1: as far a lot, barely sleeping at night because of

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Speaker 1: our kids. By the time he got home, I was

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Speaker 1: exhausted and still mad about the way he went about

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Speaker 1: his trip, it was very clear that he apologized to

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Speaker 1: make the argument go away, not because he meant it,

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Speaker 1: because also it's like he apologizes, but he's still going

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Speaker 1: on the treap. He's still going.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, not sorry, Babel.

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Speaker 3: Are these kids again? Do we know?

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Speaker 1: We don't know how old anyone is? Actually we have

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Speaker 1: no idea, We have no idea. So yeah, so basically

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Speaker 1: it was very clear apologized just make go away. The

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Speaker 1: worst part was not being able to afford a trip

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Speaker 1: for the kids or even any fund activities during the summer.

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Speaker 1: So basically he took it away from his children.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how much do we think it costs to go

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Speaker 2: What do we think of the chat? Guys? What do

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Speaker 4: Say, given my travel thing, it would be all around

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Speaker 2: I was going to say like six grand.

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Speaker 3: No for for round trips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, a few months ago, my husband said that

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Speaker 1: he wanted to visit his brother and his family in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: I told him it would be nice, but that we

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Speaker 1: will never be able to afford five thousand dollars plane tickets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that again I didn't get a vacation around the

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Speaker 1: time he wanted to leave soon. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: going by himself.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, So he's just taking all of the

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Speaker 4: money for himself. Wait again, he doesn't deserve that, and

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Speaker 4: that's not even like he doesn't even have the excuse

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Speaker 4: of visiting his family.

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Speaker 1: Wait again, Am I reading that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is this not that? Is this the same to me?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: This is a separate thing where they were going to

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Speaker 4: go to Hawaii and he's saying like, oh, I want

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Speaker 4: to go on my own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I feel like there's some funny business going on. Truly,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think he has a wife in

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Speaker 1: the US. Getting back to the story, he was talking

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Speaker 1: about going by himself. I told him that two weeks

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Speaker 1: handle more than a week. He got upset, voiced his opinion,

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Speaker 1: but didn't press it. I also said he would have

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Speaker 1: to save money and not take everything from the vacation money.

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Speaker 3: Oh so is this the same trip?

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Speaker 1: I'm a little confused. Well, like we'll go through Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My husband always works nonspot stop and expects me to

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Speaker 1: stay with the kids. Most time. He doesn't even let

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Speaker 1: me know what his plans are or when he is

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Speaker 1: coming home red flag, Ye, red flag. He makes me

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Speaker 1: feel like a single mom. It doesn't help that he

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Speaker 1: that said, he does work a lot. I wonder what

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Speaker 1: for those late nights.

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Basically he's like working a lot but not being a

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Speaker 1: communicative adult. He probably feels like he deserves the trip.

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Speaker 1: We earn about the same amount a month all in

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Speaker 1: all through wait, they earned the same amount.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's like, I deserve to go on a trip,

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Speaker 4: but also you have to watch the children and work.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm trying to read this story and like

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Speaker 1: get through it, but every line, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Some months he earns more than me. I work a

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Speaker 1: full time, high demanding job. A week ago, he asked

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Speaker 1: me which two weeks to book tickets for and I

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Speaker 1: reminded him that I had said one week. He got

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Speaker 1: upset again, saying that it isn't enough and that it

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Speaker 1: won't even be worth the thirteen hundred dollars ticket. He

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Speaker 1: has asked me multiple times since then. Tonight he told

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Speaker 1: his whole family, including his parents that we're flying down

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Speaker 1: two that he is not coming. It makes me feel unreasonable.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong for denying him two weeks in Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: Should I tell him to go two weeks during the

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Speaker 1: summer while I'm off, or screw him and plan a

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Speaker 1: trip for our family instead. Okay, I think we need

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Speaker 1: to break this down really quick, do it, because I

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Speaker 1: am a little bit confused if this is two two

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Speaker 1: because what they said initially we live close to my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that actually yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I think what I think this is the same

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Speaker 1: two week trip and they're going to Hawaii. Yes, and basically,

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Speaker 1: but what she said is initially not not he she

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Speaker 1: that he booked a trip for two weeks and four days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then she said, I ended up having to switch

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Speaker 1: seven days a week both before and after this strip.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's two trips.

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Speaker 2: Because there's also a vacation fund. She said, we can't

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Speaker 2: take them for the vacation fund, which would.

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Speaker 1: Suggest okay, because Tracy Eisen I was a little confused too.

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Speaker 1: I think I get it. Okay. So his family is

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Speaker 1: so he starts saying, I'm going to go alone. It's

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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred dollars convenient that he wants to go alone again.

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Speaker 1: And then she's like, hey, you could only stay a

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Speaker 1: week and he's like, no, minimum two weeks this time. Though,

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Speaker 1: when he talks to his family about it, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm canceling the trip because my wife won't let me go.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, because he did. We know that he

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Speaker 3: went on the first trip.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we know that he went on the first trip.

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Speaker 1: And Rachel Curtis, we know you donated five bucks. What's

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Speaker 1: your favorite? Animals? Want to make stuff? Animals? We are

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Speaker 1: making a po box. I think he mind's a nar wall, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: what's yours? What he mind's the nar wall? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think he said what's on your wall?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no?

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Speaker 2: Who can draft?

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Speaker 1: Cool? Riley? I like the Chinese dragons a lot? Yeah, okay, nice?

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Speaker 1: What do you think is she wrong for denying him?

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Speaker 1: The two weeks in Hawaii? No, no, why why not?

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Speaker 4: Because she's she deserves some time off and she's instead

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Speaker 4: pulling all this weight at work taking care of the

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Speaker 3: He's not doing any of that.

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Speaker 2: These types of stories make my blood boil when there's

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Speaker 2: like such an obvious like on the first trip, there's

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Speaker 2: such an obvious compromise where I think she was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: can we just not do two weeks? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like it's not worth.

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Speaker 2: It, it's shut up, Yeah, just fine, go with the compromise.

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Speaker 2: Stick with that. Then everyone gets something. Yeah, now op

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Speaker 2: gets nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean like he's just being a whiny baby. Ballroom

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Speaker 1: blitz Kid nineteen eighty four says, take that family trip. Girl.

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Speaker 1: Do you think she should take the family trip?

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Speaker 2: I think so, oh, take the money, take the money

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Speaker 2: from it, and be like fine, I'm going.

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Speaker 1: But that feels like an.

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Speaker 3: Eye for an eye I think deserves an eye.

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Speaker 1: I do think she deserves an eye, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's the best way to go about it. I

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Speaker 1: think they have a like need to have like a

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Speaker 2: So so the better way is like sit down and like, well.

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Speaker 1: Because two times he like basically just like, this is

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Speaker 1: a significant amount of money for a family. I'm like, all,

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Speaker 1: I'm not leaning towards like divorce quite yet, but it's

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Speaker 1: like going there. And also, Anonymous thanks for the four

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Speaker 2: That is why I retracted my conspiracy theory and went

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Speaker 2: We will get to it.

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Speaker 1: he's like, it's a prank, right, is that what I'm saying? Well,

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Speaker 3: A massage, but your Valentine's Day ha ha, just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Wesley says, divorce, divorce, divorce. Robin

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Speaker 1: Cass says it was a prank. Bro love Bubbles mistress

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Speaker 3: Years of this guy's stupid. He was like, here, babe, here,

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Speaker 1: You can't scroll, idiot, dude, he's such an He's so stupid.

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Speaker 3: She snooped through his phone.

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Speaker 4: She was I stood by an unknown number, then went

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Speaker 3: Actually no, he went to her. Wait, you didn't even

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Speaker 1: I probably jail straight to jail. Videographers says, bury him

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need some papers on yeah, Pinky

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like like likee And he opened up about things

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Speaker 1: you mean, babe?

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Speaker 2: I need more women in my life, babe, like I

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Speaker 1: He answered all my questions. He finally agreed to couple's

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Speaker 1: therapy and to go into therapy to work through things

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Speaker 1: he has been through growing up. Yeah, I'm cheating because

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Speaker 2: Have Soma bab need to get it all out?

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez. I don't know if we will ever get

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Speaker 2: No, it won't.

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Speaker 1: It won't.

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Speaker 1: Dana Arnatt says Sam. Where does sending underwear picks fall

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Speaker 1: under the Golden rules? That's that's that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: half an instance.

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00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: It's point five.

443
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Speaker 1: That's point five an instance. So you can send two

444
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: underwear picks for every Oh, if you take it, that's

445
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: a full instance.

446
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: Is it?

447
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 4: Is it?

448
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: Two underwear picks from two different people?

449
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: Though I think, I think, I think it doesn't matter.

450
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not entertaining this.

451
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: We're taking him down the rabbit girls, I'm.

452
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: Not advocating for Hall of passes. Since then, he has

453
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: been trying to do better, although it's seems like he

454
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: is starting to fall back into old habits. Now what

455
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: do you mean? I mean? Girl? He told me later

456
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: on about a guy he works with who is friends

457
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: with the person who wrote me. My husband told me

458
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: that his coworker has been saying as a joke that

459
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: he was sleeping with all his models. My husband thinks

460
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: this guy thought his friend was being serious. We haven't

461
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Speaker 1: talked about it since I have decided to believe him

462
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: and try to let this go, mostly for the kid's sake.

463
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: He has never given me a reason to doubt him before.

464
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Speaker 5: What about this is a reason? No, this is a

465
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: reason he didn't give you. This is so many reasons.

466
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: Those are all reasons.

467
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: Just because they're all happening in the span of like

468
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: three weeks doesn't mean they're not multiple reasons.

469
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Speaker 1: Oh lord, Oh Pinnograph says Op, you moron. I don't

470
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: want to call her a mora, but what the fuck

471
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: are you doing?

472
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's probably I wonder if she's just still in

473
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: that because it's all happened. She's still in the face

474
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: of disbelief.

475
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: She's didn't denial.

476
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: I think so this is.

477
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Cassidy Temps is rip headphone user. Sorry,

478
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm angry. I am angry. Kio Rango says OPI

479
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: is blind. Uh twenty one, and you guys asked why

480
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: Sam doesn't have second dates I do have second dates.

481
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: All the time.

482
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all time.

483
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: He just sends them a specific message.

484
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: We could talk about that a little bit. She's just

485
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: got to touch her. I'm not going to say the

486
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: name about loud be. Cassandra Perry says, this man needs

487
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere and let Op attend therapy. Cass says,

488
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: why does he even contribute lose the dead weight?

489
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: Op?

490
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

491
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: Does he even contribute?

492
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think, oh, what does he? Yeah? He doesn't

493
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: doesn't even contribute. So that's where it ends. That's where

494
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: it iss.

495
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's that I am. I don't know

496
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: what to do with myself.

497
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm dude.

498
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: I she got on a vacation for two weeks.

499
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly.

500
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So maybe like what's what's the plan? What is

501
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: the plan we can lay out for OP to ditch

502
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: this scenario?

503
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like she's like, yeah, burning grows, there's

504
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: no update past this. So like I feel like it

505
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: feels like divorce. Yes, it feels like divorce. Like it

506
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't like it, it's not he's been dishonest and she's

507
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: proven that. Like that dishonesty is is like very deep.

508
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: Like messages from twenty twenty, Dana Arnett next for the

509
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: ten bucks. Thanks for letting us embarrass you. Sam. You

510
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: guys never see never stop. I know so you guys

511
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: just have so I give you so much Ammo shot

512
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: shoot me with it. But yeah, I think, like I

513
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: feel like divorce for like, yeah, right, is there is

514
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: there any other option? Does she?

515
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: Does she go? Remember a last stream we had the

516
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: person that was like very intentionally plotting the divorce behind

517
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: his like without him knowing, so that way she could

518
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: get everything in order.

519
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a different issue.

520
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: It was a completely different situe.

521
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: He was violent, Like this guy doesn't seem her silent

522
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: just like a turd.

523
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: But does does she still do that in this scenario

524
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: where it's like she kind of gets everything because he

525
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: maybe he's so like just like wild and spontaneous, like uh, uncontrollable,

526
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: that maybe maybe he could go from like spontaneously cheating

527
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: to spontaneously like doing things that mess up her life.

528
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean so you're saying, like she all right,

529
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: The question is not if she should divorce or not?

530
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Should she divorce in secret or not?

531
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: Should she prep in secret or just go straight up?

532
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm divorcing you, I feel like she should. I think, yeah,

533
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: I agree with Sophia. I think straight up, I don't think.

534
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's given she's I think he's given

535
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: her reasons to divorce. I don't think he's given her

536
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: reasons to be sneaky. Yeah.

537
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it probably with him specifically, because he's like, oh, babe,

538
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: don't worry, it's a joke, blah blah blah. It's better

539
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: to just be like, I'm divorcing you in your face.

540
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: But uh, you know what, I think we should get

541
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: hit with a face. And what is this next story?

542
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: We are so right, so let's get into it.