WEBVTT - Fatherhood Brotherhood 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.400 What's up, family, I'm your girl to meet A. D. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.560 Mallory should boy, my son the general, and we are 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.960 your hosts of street politicians. That the place where the 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:18.079 streets and politics meet meet, streets and politics meet. Father's 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:23.720 Day just happened, just passed. You know, black folks out 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.680 here fighting, struggling, and we're making sure that we're standing 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.720 up for our communities, for our people. So it's a 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.400 good time to be black and to be a freedom fighter. Right. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.559 Justice for Pam Turner, Justice for pam Ala Turners. This 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:43.360 woman was killed by police in Houston, Texas. She was 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:48.120 She suffered from some mental health challenges. Officer lived in 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.320 her community, knew her. I think there are reports that 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.160 he had encountered her in the past. She was out 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.800 doing what she does, you know, often, walking the community. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.400 Everybody knows Pam Turner was one of those women that 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.920 you might see out there taking the garbage out. Maybe 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.840 sometimes she might actually be rumbling a little bit. You know, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.840 she had some challenges. Officer approaches her, she they get 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.920 into a little conversation back and forth. He tells her 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.240 over and over, you know, not he tells her, she 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.200 tells him over and over again. I don't want to 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.319 be harmed. You know, I'm pregnant, which I think later 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.280 on they found out she wasn't, but she was trying 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.520 to appeal to his morality, you know, trying to tell 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.160 him I'm pregnant. She didn't want to be harmed. He 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.479 tasted her, and while she was down on the ground, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.399 he got on he stood on top of her and 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.920 shot at the death um. And so Pam Turner died 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.520 because a hateful man decided to take her life for 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.360 no reason at all. And we are fighting for a 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:51.480 justice for Pam Turner. Shout out to Ben Crump, family attorney, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:57.400 also miss Miss Turner's daughter and family members, her sister. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.720 They're out here, they're struggling on her behalf. And just 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.920 weeks ago we went to Houston along with the Just 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.800 All Our movement folks to be with traded truth uh 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.519 and stand with the family of Pam Turner. Definitely did man, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.920 So justice for Pam Turners. Turn What made you get 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.120 up today and put your Pam Turning? I was. I 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.320 was going through my closet right, you know, trying to 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.040 because I always want This is our podcast and we 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.079 should be branding things that we represent that we own, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.400 you know, God's work had on, you know, shameless plug. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.320 And then I looked and I've seen this T shirt. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.840 I hadn't one. It was still in plastic, and I 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.720 was like, you know what, today's the day. You know, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.280 I just we just celebrated Father's Day. And and that's 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.839 always a good thing, you know, even though we don't 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.480 really get much. But you know we we ain't gonna 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.440 talk about that. We're talking about that later. But anyway, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.119 I found my Pam Turner shirt and I just wanted 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.720 to say justice for PM Turners. So we got justice 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:56.640 for Pam Turners for sure. So there's a lot that's happening. Um. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.440 And you know, I feel like, you know, now we're 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:05.680 we've entered this sort of freedom riding hot summer where 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.440 we're now beginning to pick up the steam of protests 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:15.079 around the nation. Tomorrow we'll be in Washington, d c. Um, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:20.080 you know, until Freedom and other partners will be there 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.960 dealing with this filibuster issue, ending the filibusters so that 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:30.560 we can actually move some legislation through the federal government. UM. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.640 So it basically is it's it's basically a delay. It 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:42.720 gives power to particularly the Republicans to delay the process. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.600 And have you ever seen them on the floor where 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.640 they're like talking for hours and hours and hours and hours. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.520 The most simple way of explaining the filipbuster is to say, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.280 it's a delay. That's that's the that's the shortest way 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.880 to describe it. It's a delay. And if you ever 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.760 watch where there when you see uh legislators speaking for 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.440 a long period of time and they're just like standing 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.520 on the floor, they're basically trying to obstruct progress. And UM, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.760 I forget exactly how it works between the Democrats and 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.160 the Republicans, but I do know that the Republicans use 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.600 the filipbuster to be able to slow down and delay 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.440 progress as often as possible. It really sort of throws 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:32.960 the government into this this stalemate process, and um, it 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.240 needs to be removed. It's there's no reason for it. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.240 There should be votes, We should have people voting on issues, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.160 voting to pass laws and moving forward. There should not 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.600 be any process in place that can slow down progress 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.599 or gives you the ability to obstruct justice, because that's 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.440 what the feel of us to currently does. Then most 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.560 Democrats are for getting rid of it, but you of 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:02.120 course have folks like Joe Manchin and Senators Uh Cinema 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.520 who are saying that, well, you know, they're not a 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:10.880 hundred percent in agreement with ending it unless the GOP, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.280 which is the Republicans, agree as well. So they want 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.960 everybody to be on the same page, and we're just 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.400 not in that. We're not in that space. And I think, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.120 and I think that's what it is to me, right, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.960 you know, I think most people are losing faith and 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.320 what what government even is not even just individuals, just 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.479 the whole state of what government is. Right when you 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.760 when you can have something like this that can purposely 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:41.640 just delayed progress, right, when you have people who who 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:46.600 have been in Korea, politicians and they know that this 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.400 process has never been everybody on the same page, it's 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.880 never been coomed by young right, And then you hear 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.960 and these are the same people that are supposed to 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.479 be with the party that you supposed to be progressive. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.360 And now when we have an opportunity to do something 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.240 that's progressed to you need the people who have been 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:07.560 stopping progress to agree. It makes no sense. So I 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.200 think people are starting to see that, right, And that's 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.120 why I say we need something different. I think you know, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.440 and then the Philipbuster. Philipbuster is definitely one of the 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.400 first things that's really important. It's very important to see 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.080 the other thing that they can do with the Philipbusters, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.559 like they enter all types of motions, you know, again delays, uh, 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.440 you know, coming finding all kinds of problems with the legislation, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.000 um serving this motion and that motion, just delaying and 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.520 exactly that it really it sits on someone's desk and 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.640 it never really moves because the philip Buster was was 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.200 designed to sort of like stop things or to dis 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.520 imagine being imprisoned and somebody and you're waiting to go 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.960 to trial and they and they're able to do that. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.960 I mean, it's not on that level, but I get 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.440 you just think about it, because it's not level is 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.800 a different thing, but it's pretty much the same because 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.840 people's life hanging the balance of these bills that they 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.360 won't pass. So while we wait, we're fighting to get 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.240 just basic civil rights bills passed that you block, and 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.680 people are dying. People are losing their life, they're losing 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.160 their finances, they're losing so many things. So it's yeah, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.800 people are dying. The blood is still spelling, and so 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.000 I agree with you. You know, the Philipbuster needs to end. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.280 And so tomorrow when we go to Washington, we will 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.760 be one addressing that, protesting to end the Philipbuster, to 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.640 push especially the Democrats to do something. And then also 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.600 there are other issues passing the George Floyd Justice and 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.920 Policing Act that for us is not negotiable and we 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.320 wanted to pass as it currently stands, rather than it 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.640 being a watered down bill. So you know we're gonna 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.040 be This summer is hot. It's time for us to 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.920 get back to the energy of last summer. People don't 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.600 people got their vaccinations. The world is opening back up, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.080 and there should be no reason why we're not hitting 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.680 the streets. And you know, I was thinking, because that's 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.320 what I do. In my thought of the day, I 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.240 was thinking about this idea of June teach and realizing 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.560 that there are some folks who are really mad at 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.800 people like me. I don't know your position on on it. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.920 We haven't really talked much who are not impressed by 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.000 the fact that there is a Juneteenth holiday, you know, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.040 I want to say, and I did alive on it 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:33.080 um the next day after it happened last week, after 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:40.240 the uh the holiday um was passed into federal law. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.640 You will um you know where people I did a 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.600 live explaining why I said, I'm not impressed. And there 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.880 was some folks who were like, when you say you're 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.240 not impressed, it's disrespectful because there are people who fought 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.760 to make this happen, you know. And they named particularly 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.920 one woman, miss Opal, who is someone who let them move. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.800 Meant to get um, the the June team to be recognized. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.599 And obviously we understand the history of June teenth, this 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.959 when black folks became free. When when people in Galveston, 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.439 Texas who didn't know that they were free from when 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:20.560 we originally supposedly received emancipation on June nineteenth, that's when 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.760 they learned that they actually was still being held in 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.800 bondage with the word didn't get to them that they 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.480 were free. We know that, and we understand that June 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.120 tea is important. And to your point is we're not 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.720 freedom right? Well, I mean, but we can move about 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.719 the world, right, and so and and and and if 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.280 you compare today to what they were experiencing, oh, certainly 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.120 there's progress. Right, So we all we all respect that. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:53.400 And I understand a thousand percent why people would lead 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.840 a movement to get that day recognized, because at the 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.319 end of the day, right the first step towards anything 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.240 is an acknowledgement of wrongdoing. So we all support that. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.839 No one is saying that we don't appreciate the work 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.400 that was done by Miss Opal and others who have 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.960 fought hard. And I know for sure they didn't just 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.720 want a symbolic day. They wanted an acknowledgement so that 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.280 we would know who we are, where we come from. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.680 Our children will understand the history of black folks in 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.080 this country. So we would not think that the fourth 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.920 of July was our Emancipation Day, because it is not right. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.120 And so I understand that they they they were working 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.559 to get this holiday put in place, not because they 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.200 think this is the end of the conversation around the 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.040 enslavement and oppression of black folks, but so that we 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.480 have a new beginning, a new conversation. But some of 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.160 us said, and so when we say we're not impressed, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.960 we're not talking to the advocates who worked to get 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.680 the holiday. We're talking to the people who passed it 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.080 who are disingenuous. Is because you won't pass the Voting 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.360 Rights Act. You won't secure voting rights in this country. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.600 You won't pass an anti lynching bill. You won't pass 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.640 and hate I hate crime bill. John Kanye is died 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.800 trying to get a racial profile and bill in place. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.720 You won't pass the George Floyd Justice and Police and Act. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.120 Not only will they not pass it, they're trying to 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.360 block it to the point where they want to roll 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.760 us back to what I think is the sixties and 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.200 even beyond that, even before that. Okay, that's that's what 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.280 we're up against. And you and and so that. They said, well, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.760 these folks have been fighting all their lives. Well, John 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.920 Kanye is for all his life. Guess what John lewis 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.360 for all his life for our voting rights to be secured. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.959 And we're losing them every single day. Okay. Brianna Taylor 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.360 died while they were out here. Uh. You know which, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.079 by the way, it's still happening with no knock warrants 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.280 and other forms of policing that is harmful and dangerous 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:02.640 and abusive for our communities. Uh. Eric Garner died being 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.559 choked to death. Uh. George Floyd died with officers me 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.800 and his neck. We got names of people who have 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.680 given their lives for this struggle. And so what I'm 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.720 saying is acknowledge the day, celebrate the day, have our 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.520 black joy as a resistance method and as a as 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.959 a revolutionary act, have all of that. But for me, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.600 I'm not going to be impressed with the holiday until 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.480 I have the accountability match with the holiday so that 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.839 I can look at it and say, they gave us 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.560 a holiday on whatever whatever the date is, June of 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.680 two thousand and twenty one, and this holiday signifies that 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.199 we've actually turned the page and then we've actually made 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.760 some form of progress. So no, I'm not impressed. And 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.800 in the in the words of my dear sister, our 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:58.200 sister Leah Daughtry, Bishop Leo Dartry, that's nice. That's nice, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.040 you know, thank you to appreciate that. But we want 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.920 some real stuff done. We want some real things done 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:10.000 so that we can celebrate the holiday knowing that you 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.160 can't say we won't be killed, we won't be harmed, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.680 we won't have to deal with racism. But what you 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.160 can say is that somebody's gonna have to pay for 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.160 it if they do it in our communities, because damn 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.400 it June nineteenth is a great day, a great holiday 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.800 that we can all celebrate together. And meanwhile, on the 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.800 way to your celebration or back, or if you Brianna Taylor, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.760 you could be dead in your home on the same holiday, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.160 and guess what, nobody's gonna give you a damned piece 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.240 of justice for it. So no, I'm not impressed. I'm 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:49.000 I'm glad that there are some folks who see this 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.240 as a milestone, and God bless them, and keep fighting 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.480 for us, Keep fighting for us, keep doing the work 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.760 to make sure that their flag is raised, that people 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.040 know we're at war and what our people have been through, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.200 because we've been harmed, we've been abused, and we have 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.359 been in this country for over four hundred years experiencing 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.160 an oppression that nobody else has ever experienced on American soil. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.000 So keep doing what you're doing, keep fighting for us. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.920 When I say I'm not impressed, I'm not talking to you. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.320 I'm impressed by the work, the struggle, and the sacrifice 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.240 of our elders and brothers and sisters who are out 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.080 there sounding the alarm on our behalf. But I am 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.600 not impressed by some, particularly white men, who are sitting 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.400 up in Washington, who have struck justice every single day, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.560 deciding to sign a damn holiday in place and give 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.080 it to us and say, now, on this day, go 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.840 eat some stuff, dance. We're gonna give you some damn 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.960 uht off at this store. We're gonna give you a 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.800 few things to make you celebrate and drink away the 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.720 the the real truth of what we're doing, which is 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.600 to try to take you back to at the same 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.760 time when June nineteenth had to be granted to you 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.200 in the first place. That's how I feel about it. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:11.080 So no, I'm not impressed, have mercy, and I can 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.200 still say happy holiday on June nineteen. I have the 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.960 right to feel both things. And we need grace for 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.280 people to be unimpressed and celebrate at the same time. No, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.880 I mean, that's the truth. Listen, you just you sound 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.120 like a Baptist preacher in here today. You just look, 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.400 she listened. We don't even need to talk about that 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.200 is what you call thought of the day. She from 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.760 the router to the tutor about this man. She feels 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.600 some way. And let's right, man, we need real We 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:46.640 don't need symbolism, we need activities, we need policy, Biden. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.360 We need policy and everything that it encompasses. So listen, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.240 June teeth is nice. Like she said, it's nice. It's nice. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.040 It looks good, but make it feel good. You know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.840 I'm tired of looking good. Make me feel good. Get that. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.120 What's her name? Holly Berry and Moss is going Now, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.400 this is funny. Holle Berry was talking about something else 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.200 I'm talking about, Yeah, but not halle Berry. Come on, now, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.640 let's get it together because people, you know how people get. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.720 We did the comments to be the only chi like 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.240 Hollie Berry and Master's Boy. You know what's going on 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:28.280 in Marsters, No champion, make me feel good? Okay, she 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.640 was talking about something completely different than I'm talking. I'm 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.760 talking about policies and laws. She about somebody's draws. I'm 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.160 not talking about that what I'm saying, So no, h's 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.600 the truth. Before we go to the next segment and 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 have our special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:51.840 break for our sponsors. That's so in keeping with this 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.960 idea that we're still celebrating fathers. We always celebrated black 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:01.120 fathers on street politicians trying because I'm a black father. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.200 So we did celebrate you. So you know, we talked 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.160 about how great you are as a father, this is true. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.520 And then also to the community, there's so many young 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.720 people who look up to you, So we're still celebrating fathers. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.640 That and in keeping with that, we're being joined by 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.760 one of our friends, of our friends, that's a that's 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:27.679 a that's a brother. He's still because the fame is 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.080 that we've got so many friends across the country that 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.560 do such amazing, amazing work. And I appreciate you for 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:40.879 allowing me to introduce him today because Jeff Johnson is 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.560 someone that I consider to be a mentor, uh, someone 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.960 that I have been for many many years looking up 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:53.000 to and looking to for advice about strategy and how 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.639 to maneuver through this crazy movement that he knows all 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:01.520 too well. UM. I first learned earned of Jeff Johnson 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.360 when he was the director of the Youth and College 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.760 Division of the nub A c P, which is a 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.840 position that Jamal Bryant, Reverend Jamal Bryant, our friend, um 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.560 and brothers you said, also had. And then Stephen Green, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.360 Reverend Stephen Green, who's one of our friend and he's 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.879 our until freedom. UM, I won't call him a baby 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.720 because he won't appreciate that. But he said, well he's 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.439 yesterday at an event he actually said that I was 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.000 his elder by far, So I will call him one 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.560 of the until Freedom babies today. And then Tiffany Lofton, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.800 who is one of our colleagues dope organizer. The Double 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.080 A CP has produced some of the absolute baddest young 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.359 organizers in the country. Um, I think about Stephanie Brown, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.480 James and now Brother Wisdom is running then a CP 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.000 youth in college the business. So Jeff comes out of 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:03.440 that tradition. Um, he's a commentator, radio personality and influencer. Uh, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.800 he won't want me to say a celebrity, but he is. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:11.080 And he is a brilliant organizer and now leading men 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:17.320 thrive and so and he's a dope father ape that 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.120 might be a T shirt. Yeah. If the Dad gang 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.159 already has they got a dope dade. Okay, all right, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.800 you see, look you know all about the dead. But 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.119 thanks Jeff, thanks for coming on this show today. Of course, 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.679 thank you. I mean you all are you all are 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.000 friends and I don't I don't I like you all. 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.240 Don't throw that around like and um we've been in 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.240 this a long time, and there's just certain people who 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.560 you know that whenever you call or they call, they 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.879 always answered. UM. So I'm just I'm forever thankful and 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.720 grateful for who you all are in this work, uh, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.440 and who you are in my life. So when when 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.520 you hit me and say come on, I don't even 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.239 think I checked my schedule. I'm just like, let's go 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.520 appreciate that. We definitely appreciate that. Man. Just just just 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.240 watching you over the years, man, and I watched how 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.639 fatherhood just changed you. You understand, I'm saying, like I 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.280 watched you just always be one of the greatest speakers 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.520 of all our time. Educated and always I'm looking on 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.320 your shows and just tune into your social media and 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.480 just get guide into certain things. But I remember, and 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.439 we actually probably and I don't know when it was, 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.560 but we had a conversation about how being a father 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.000 had had changed your perspective about life and it probably 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.040 saved a lot of different ideologies and things that you 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.320 thought you change becoming a father. What is that process? 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.239 You see? My son is that I was never in 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:48.680 the public space, not as a father. So so my 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.520 daughter was born, Madison was born, Uh, four months after 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.320 I started working at the a CP. So by the 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.520 time I was on Rap City, which is when most 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.640 people got to know me, I was already a thirty 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.600 year old dada too. So i've I've never really been 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.800 in the public space and not been a father. But 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:13.400 to your point, um, I think fatherhood if if if, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.800 if you're doing it in a way that makes any 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:23.720 sense at all, reminds you how the difference between, um, 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.600 the difference between moving to create pleasure and moving to 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:32.720 create legacy m hm. And and so I never got 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.919 everything right. I don't get everything right now, but but 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.520 being a father helped me recognized with real clarity the 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:45.240 difference between legacy movement and pleasure movement. And there's something 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.560 I think too, to my son's point, because there are 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.440 a lot of people who don't know that we had 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.199 children so young, you know what I mean, And so 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:58.080 they see you with your newer children and it's like, oh, wow, 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.800 you know, now Jeff has kids. Will know actually, Jeff's 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.360 had kids probably for as you said, as long as 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.879 your you know, public career, um, you know, and as 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.000 long as people have known you. But there is something 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.240 about having children later in life, uh, that I I 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.040 do think it's sort of shifts your perspective from when 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:18.720 you have them and you're young and you don't really 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.840 know anything, and they don't know anything, and y'all don't 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.840 know anything together. When you have the smaller kids, you're 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.000 trying to approach it from a different perspective. Yeah, you 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.960 know what's funny, the perspectives already changed. So I mean 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.560 you're right. When I had Madison a twenty six, I 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.240 didn't know ship. Uh. I'm just like, can the rink 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:44.360 get paid? And can I not kill her? Kay? I'm winning? Um. 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.919 You know when when Baldwin Garvey was born, I was. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.040 I was in my forties, and so you know, my 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.480 wisdom was different, my revenue was different, my thought process 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.880 was different. Um, the relationship that I was in with 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.119 my wife was different than the relationship I was with 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.879 my previous wife. And so there were all this this 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:08.680 maturation that it happened, and so too, I literally tell um, Madison, 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.560 Miles and Maltham like, don't hate your brothers, like they 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.000 just got a better me than youall. And and what 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.600 I learned being a father with you, the joys, the pain, 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.480 the mistakes, the triumphs at all have maybe a better 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.560 daddy for them, and so they get it. I think 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.600 on most days sometimes they'll be looking like, damn, dad, 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.280 you ain't never do that when we was killing But 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.960 but um, but it is a blessing. It's it's such 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.800 a blessing to be in this space and be a 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:39.479 father for the first time again. Um, because I just 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.240 know so much. I didn't know how old is your 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.560 youngest child? Two too? Wow, I remember that. It was 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.600 terrible too. I tell people all the time, at two 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.600 years old, they trying to kill yourself when your job 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.480