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Speaker 2: Look Mare, Oh, I see you my own look over
Speaker 2: there is that culture?
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, Lost cult Ding.
Speaker 2: Dong Lost culturisas calling wow, the first ever flop off.
Speaker 3: Of Ding do Wait where did your brain go? Queen On?
Speaker 3: I just full transparency. Matt and I had a beautiful
Speaker 3: pre role as in pre recording conversation front convo, not
Speaker 3: for you girls, not for you girls to hear some
Speaker 3: things we keep sacred private, sacred dreams, and I just
Speaker 3: was kind of ricocheting into lost culture.
Speaker 1: Mode, you know, And then so we started to say lost,
Speaker 1: that's the first time we ever haven't done a ding.
Speaker 3: In the past. Have we been a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and I think we just immediately choose to erase it
Speaker 3: from remember. But it's like, I think that's do you.
Speaker 1: Think it's that thing of like so you know, it's
Speaker 1: like when you do something a million times then it's
Speaker 1: hard to keep fresh. Like one thing that's been popping
Speaker 1: up on the pod is we've been starting ding dong
Speaker 1: very high, yes, and now it's like we barely even
Speaker 1: did ding dong.
Speaker 3: Well. I think it's because our past couple of days
Speaker 3: have involved live music, a long dancing, jumping up and down, drinking.
Speaker 1: Wine, drinking wine, beer, sometimes canned Gin and tonics. Can
Speaker 1: I say, we're in London, Gin and Tonic culture.
Speaker 3: It's alive, It's alive, It's all over Europe.
Speaker 2: Honey, it's the most popular cocktail. It's actually really Culture
Speaker 2: number nine is the most popular cocktail in.
Speaker 3: London, London. But like Gin is like huge in Gin
Speaker 3: is in in Iceland. When we went to Iceland, it
Speaker 3: was just like, this is a Gin country, it's a
Speaker 3: Gin town.
Speaker 1: Well you know what my mother used to say. She's
Speaker 1: of course most famous for saying Dan bird. But when
Speaker 1: I was in high school and I was like, she
Speaker 1: got the sense that I was starting to drink. She
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want you drinking Gin. And I
Speaker 1: was like what, And I was like, where the funk
Speaker 1: would I find gin? And she turned to me and
Speaker 1: she said, without a lot of irony at all, I
Speaker 1: think some but she goes gin is sin.
Speaker 2: Jin is sin.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree, which like she.
Speaker 2: Is like some sort of like Carrie's mother or something.
Speaker 2: Then oh my god, and she's true, because then I did.
Speaker 2: Of course, when you give a mouse a cookie, when
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 1: Tantalize a mouse with gin, it's gonna want to sin,
Speaker 1: It's want to send. And so then I started getting
Speaker 1: into Gin and I would say, I've had some of
Speaker 1: my those sinful moments while drinking Gin.
Speaker 3: Lately, I have had sinful moments. I've had sleepless moments,
Speaker 3: sleepless I think the other week I had a Gin
Speaker 3: drink before bed and then I couldn't sleep. And I
Speaker 3: was like, damn, is.
Speaker 2: That why I've been because last night too I could
Speaker 2: not sleep at all.
Speaker 3: What's going on, Mama?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I think it's the jet lag.
Speaker 1: Famously, when you sort of travel to in a country,
Speaker 1: that's something that's a risk you're on.
Speaker 3: But I have not been able to sleep. Have you
Speaker 3: been sleeping? Sleeping just fine, actually soundful, but it's taken me.
Speaker 3: I've been here long enough where I've adjusted, and you
Speaker 3: might be leaving just as you feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you fully Well, I'm going back to LA tomorrow,
Speaker 1: which is going to be a twelve point five hour flight,
Speaker 1: so I'm enough.
Speaker 2: Of course, watch at least ten episodes of Vander Pump Role.
Speaker 3: Now you and I are approaching VPR. Let's just get
Speaker 3: into it. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: And I bet you didn't think that, with everything we've
Speaker 1: gone through the past two weeks, that we'd start with
Speaker 1: Vander Pumper role's But that is cultural.
Speaker 3: Impact right there, impact right there. First of all, the
Speaker 3: counterpoint to Jennison is Jennison, by the ways, not so
Speaker 3: Jennison Boos. And I will say that you and I
Speaker 3: are taking two different approaches to vander Pump consuming vander Pump. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I am doing the abridged syllabus. Yes, that was posted
Speaker 3: by Brahmas Instagram and whoever curated that, well done, really
Speaker 3: good job, perfect adjust the right amount of context, you
Speaker 3: get the exact right information. It's very important that you
Speaker 3: watch the Miami Girl episode. It's very important that you
Speaker 3: watch Sheinache's wedding. It's all happening in part one. We
Speaker 3: did not. It was part one at the time, but
Speaker 3: was part tragic. And so I'm slowly crawling along. I'm
Speaker 3: not all the way cut up, but I did go
Speaker 3: ahead and watch the hashtag Scandabal episodes last episode of
Speaker 3: season ten, and of course the two parts of the
Speaker 3: fin and the.
Speaker 1: Way I've gone about it is I just sort of
Speaker 1: jumped in this season and watched all of this season
Speaker 1: and then have gone back.
Speaker 2: And sort of start from watching them from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we both sort of caught up on the
Speaker 1: reunion in different ways. Yes, in different ways in terms
Speaker 1: of how to talk about the Scandaval and rander Hump
Speaker 1: rules were very much there.
Speaker 3: Obviously, some of you Katie's reader's publicists finalists out there
Speaker 3: has been with the other pot complete ASTs have been
Speaker 3: along with the ride since day one. We salute you Soldiers, Soldiers,
Speaker 3: and talking to one such person, Adie Bryant, the other day,
Speaker 3: she said, I've been watching every single episode. I can't
Speaker 3: believe this is how it's all paid off. Because she
Speaker 3: was watching me and being like, why am I watching this? Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now this year she's finally like, this is why,
Speaker 3: and that's why you stick with things. Yes, do you
Speaker 3: hear me?
Speaker 1: I want Katie, stop fell over the car, put the
Speaker 1: baby down. This is why you stick with things. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're having any doubts about anything you're doing in
Speaker 1: your life, stick with it. There's a scandaval at the
Speaker 1: end of the rainbow. Okay, there really is. This is
Speaker 1: a rule of culture number thirty. Whatever you're doing, stick
Speaker 1: with it because there's a scandaval at the end of
Speaker 1: the rainbow period.
Speaker 2: Can I pick the baby up?
Speaker 3: Katie?
Speaker 2: You have mothering to.
Speaker 3: Do, mother to do and we are over here daddering
Speaker 3: because we are being young girls consuming this show. Now
Speaker 3: talk about you're in the middle season two. I'm in
Speaker 3: the middle of season two.
Speaker 1: So basically it's just come to light that it seems
Speaker 1: like Jackson Kristen fucked yes, and of course we find
Speaker 1: out they did. I've not met a young DJ James
Speaker 1: Kennedy in the show yet. He comes in and sort
Speaker 1: of picks Kristen up, where Tom sand of all drops her.
Speaker 1: Ariana has come in as sort of I don't know
Speaker 1: how to describe it. But the coolest bartender in the world.
Speaker 1: Can I say as a person who came up in
Speaker 1: restaurants about this show is crucial to me because it
Speaker 1: is such an accurate representation of career bartenders and waitresses.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, that's.
Speaker 1: Sort of the vibe, all getting sort of into it
Speaker 1: together and being all in each other's shit. I remember
Speaker 1: there was a time in my life where I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to stop hanging out with everyone at this restaurant.
Speaker 1: How can you because it will get you. It's very
Speaker 1: hard because you're all in each other's lives. But I
Speaker 1: know what it is restaurant culture to take over your
Speaker 1: personal life. And they allowed that to happen, and of
Speaker 1: course it's beautiful for us. And also they got in
Speaker 1: a reality television show where they had to continue it.
Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you make restaurant life
Speaker 1: your whole life. It is incestuous and it is perfect TV.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect reality television show.
Speaker 3: And would you say that there's a missing element from
Speaker 3: your experience of like, there's no chef interaction, there's no
Speaker 3: kitchen interact.
Speaker 1: This is where we have a missing area, Because I say,
Speaker 1: because going into the kitchen and the drama between chefs
Speaker 1: and waitresses, to say nothing of food runners. To say
Speaker 1: nothing of food runners because let me tell you people, yeah,
Speaker 1: bust people. And you do see some bussers and James
Speaker 1: Kennedy comes in it as a busser and I'm excited for
Speaker 1: that element because the power structure.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 1: What I love is we get true manager drama Peter
Speaker 1: Peter and also restaurant owner drama Lisa vander Pump. I
Speaker 1: didn't know there was the dimension, but she really comes in.
Speaker 1: And what I love about Lisa vander Pump is it's
Speaker 1: so consistently this I don't care get back to work
Speaker 1: perfect it is get back to work culture. She's like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? If it's a table, I care. If
Speaker 1: it's something with Jacks, I don't care. But it's always
Speaker 1: something with Jacks.
Speaker 3: It's always something with Jacks. But then it comes to
Speaker 3: a head with Kristen in season.
Speaker 2: Three four, Oh I cannot wait.
Speaker 3: You'll see. You'll see it's so inspiring and wonderful. You
Speaker 3: see LVPB like you haven't gone back to work. It's
Speaker 3: told you to get back to work so many times
Speaker 3: and you have not obeyed.
Speaker 2: Me. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: You've disobeyed me.
Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump is, you've disobeyed me culture. And that's
Speaker 1: where the coach number fifty Lisa vander Pump is, you've
Speaker 1: disobeyed me culture. So flashing forward, I know the bullet points,
Speaker 1: you know the bullet points. We're now in the second
Speaker 1: part of the vander Pump Rules Reunion, and I have
Speaker 1: to say, not only is everyone involved in the central
Speaker 1: Triangle giving perfect reality television, Sena Gena say, Brava holding
Speaker 1: that white claw in that it's all it's really all happening,
Speaker 1: sweatshirt over her gown, scowling at the television because of
Speaker 1: a restraining order from the demon Roquel demon who we
Speaker 1: have thoughts about.
Speaker 3: Bowen is positive and that we maybe we need to
Speaker 3: lay off. No, no, no, it's not that. It's not
Speaker 3: exactly a Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2: I think this is a good point.
Speaker 3: But I was talking to some friends sidebarring with some
Speaker 3: other friends, and I'm just gonna say it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think they would mind me saying this, which is
Speaker 3: one of my catchphrases. As the readers are pointed out, yes,
Speaker 3: I don't think they would mind me saying this, but
Speaker 3: Cecily and Sarah Sherman have both positive that it might
Speaker 3: be punching down so to speak to ship on Rachel
Speaker 3: Raquel this much because she's dummy. She's dummy, and she
Speaker 3: was literally punched in the head. Yeah, and there it
Speaker 3: might be again. Yes, she was pushed, she was pushed
Speaker 3: with allegedly, allegedly, and I actually believe giving don't move,
Speaker 3: I'm taking a phone, I'm tucking my thumb and I'm
Speaker 3: fanning my fingers out. This is really This is.
Speaker 1: The cover of the episode this week is Bowen in
Speaker 1: three D, and it's gonna be me in the back.
Speaker 3: Like. I love the way he just reached out, I
Speaker 3: reached out to really put a period, to put a
Speaker 3: fine point on this. But Matt has rightly retorted with, well,
Speaker 3: she did ruin these people's lives.
Speaker 2: Correct. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna sign up for a reality show as
Speaker 1: a dumb person, you're gonna be responsible for the dumb
Speaker 1: shit you do in a major way, especially when it's
Speaker 1: something this famous and impactful and something this egregious. I
Speaker 1: mean the cuts to her in the trailer being like
Speaker 1: I feel like now I'm watching this, and I wish
Speaker 1: I had written her a note. I'm like girl starting
Speaker 1: to have regrets, like you fucking fool.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Also, I have to say, who do you identify with
Speaker 1: in the shows?
Speaker 2: I know who you are? Really, I think you're Katie
Speaker 2: in a very powerful way.
Speaker 3: Thank you for saying. I take that as a high compliment.
Speaker 3: It is because it's meant this one. And who do
Speaker 3: you identify with? Laala Kent? You are Lalla. You are
Speaker 3: the icon Lala Kent.
Speaker 1: I feel as though every time Laala goes too far,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the way I would go too far.
Speaker 2: Every time Lala is.
Speaker 1: Lalla ing, I feel like I identify with her rage
Speaker 1: in many as. Yes, it's rage that just righteous anger
Speaker 1: when you your yourself or her hands are not clean.
Speaker 3: Okay, you are one thousand percent unequivocally Lalla. Yes, I
Speaker 3: was gonna identify myself lightly until you said Katie as
Speaker 3: maybe as Shana but maybe not just just someone who,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, sticks up for her friends.
Speaker 2: No, you definitely are, but I think that you are.
Speaker 3: You're arising, but I'm ultimately Katie's son down.
Speaker 1: Katie, because you you have like the dry intelligence and
Speaker 1: you see it clearly. And the thing too, is it's
Speaker 1: like over the bullshit, finally over the bullshit.
Speaker 3: Fucking Schwartz. What a fucking little dweet.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you. He bothers me more than Sandibalaval.
Speaker 1: It's like, we get it, we see it, We're over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Schwartz. It's just like kind of wow.
Speaker 1: When Katie was like, you're gonna lose a lot of
Speaker 1: friends over this, and he's like, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: it's like no, yeah, and you deserve to and if
Speaker 1: you do get them back, that fucking sucks.
Speaker 3: And he is like a roach in that way where
Speaker 3: when you shine the light on him with his shit,
Speaker 3: he like has to scurry away in the most obvious,
Speaker 3: dumbest way. I'm like, this is a dumb person. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, it's like I actually think he's
Speaker 1: even worse than that, because I don't think he's dumb.
Speaker 1: I think he plays dumb, and I think he thinks
Speaker 1: it's cute. I think he thinks, like, h what do
Speaker 1: you mean, I'm Schwartz. Everybody loves me and it's like, no, dude, YEA. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: like you have been made this man's bitch, and it's
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. And I think that like sometimes like his
Speaker 1: intelligence does a little bit and I'm like, oh, so
Speaker 1: you were playing domb which makes it even worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're trying to play in our face. I can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what makes it great TV is that
Speaker 3: he's playing dumb, but he is ultimately smart enough to
Speaker 3: He's smart enough quote unquote to like subjugate himself to
Speaker 3: Sandoval in a way that is like really pathetic but
Speaker 3: so interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: Every time he made this shit about him, Like when
Speaker 1: he was sitting down with Ariana in the finale and
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm taking a beating man, and it's
Speaker 1: just like you're talking to Ariano Maddox in this moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, you have got to be kidding it.
Speaker 1: And also, of course it's being edited to make it
Speaker 1: look like that. I'm sure he was a lot more
Speaker 1: contrite in the moment and the interaction, but like, lord god,
Speaker 1: every time he said something about how his business is
Speaker 1: gonna fail.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, what did you think was gonna happen?
Speaker 1: His first response when Sandoval said I'm having an affair
Speaker 1: with Raquel or something happened with Raquel was like, well,
Speaker 1: you need to end it because of our business, you
Speaker 1: fucking moron, Like, look, have some foresight for us.
Speaker 2: Second, they need to buy him out.
Speaker 1: I think LVP and Schwartz should buy him out and
Speaker 1: go on a fucking apology tour and that should be
Speaker 1: the next season of the show.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, that's what I think. That's really good because
Speaker 3: I feel like, from what little I know, it feels
Speaker 3: like there's no coming back from this. And Sandy, well, can.
Speaker 2: I say I'm gonna reveal this. I actually live very
Speaker 2: close to Schwartz and Sandy's, yeah, and had gone there
Speaker 2: a few times.
Speaker 1: Sudy and I went. I went a couple of times,
Speaker 1: like with other people. And let's just say it's haunted.
Speaker 1: The place is cursed, and it was already not that busy,
Speaker 1: and I don't see how it can be more busy.
Speaker 3: When was the last time? So this is pre scandabal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's crazy is like it was happening
Speaker 2: among of course a punks, punks.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Matt, a new word alert.
Speaker 2: So you know, when you are amongst people, you can
Speaker 2: also look a punkst people look you and g N S. T.
Speaker 2: Is that how you spell?
Speaker 3: I would say, take out the extra end you p
Speaker 3: O n A punkst g n gst correct.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I would throw that n in there.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you do, sometimes you do. You could feel it
Speaker 3: a punks to the space.
Speaker 1: I looked at punks the space and even the other day,
Speaker 1: like when I walked to Nelson's just like pick some
Speaker 1: things up, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, wow, it is a haunted house.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying much more about like my own
Speaker 1: interactions with it. But well, first of all, I'll say
Speaker 1: it's sad because the food was actually good.
Speaker 2: They actually figured out the menu.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Good. I believed them. But you know I believe
Speaker 3: I believe I believed that. Do you remember what you had?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even go as far as to say
Speaker 1: what menu items I would recommend, because guess what coming
Speaker 1: in July? Something about her, something about shop on Robertson.
Speaker 1: And guess what I.
Speaker 2: Got for us?
Speaker 1: I got us two medium black crew neck so sweatshirts
Speaker 1: that say something about her, thankful and where I'm giving
Speaker 1: you the other one.
Speaker 2: I got one for myself and one for you.
Speaker 1: And suffice to say this, this is an open invitation Oh,
Speaker 1: Katie Maloney and Ariana Maddox please come on, come on
Speaker 1: the pod. I've had let's just say a DM conversation
Speaker 1: with Katie. Oh there's interest, and listen listen Ariana. She
Speaker 1: she's facing, she's busy, she's getting that check. God bless her.
Speaker 1: And I keep bringing this up. I keep gutting out
Speaker 1: on this on the pod. But we had a lovely chat, lovely.
Speaker 3: Time together at upfronts last year's last year's upfronts where
Speaker 3: she was so sweet. I was like, I had not
Speaker 3: watched Vanner Pump. She was like. We were talking for
Speaker 3: a bit and then she goes and she did not
Speaker 3: ask me this outright. She was like, do you know
Speaker 3: who I am? Basically?
Speaker 2: Or she know.
Speaker 3: She was like, do you watch vander Pop? And I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm so sorry I don't. Yeah, she goes,
Speaker 3: that's fine whatever, Like she was just so like she
Speaker 3: was just checking in to make sure because she mean,
Speaker 3: she wanted to get a temperature check on there or
Speaker 3: just yeah, and then we just immediately moved on from that,
Speaker 3: had a lovely conversation. Yeah, she of course obviously loves
Speaker 3: sketch comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she seeks it very serious thing see and then
Speaker 1: I asked a question I watch What Happens Live, I
Speaker 1: DM's a question in and they asked it, and oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love Matt Rogers twice, which made me
Speaker 1: feel very seen. And I just want to say back.
Speaker 3: We see y'all, We see y'all.
Speaker 1: And we were not saying you need our help at
Speaker 1: all for the opening of the store, any promo at all.
Speaker 1: You couldn't be more in the zeitgeist, but we want
Speaker 1: to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be coming anyway.
Speaker 3: We're coming no matter what. We'd love to have you
Speaker 3: in for a nice little chat, fun hang. It'd be
Speaker 3: a fun hanging, guaranteed. And then guess what. It coincides
Speaker 3: with the occasion of something about her.
Speaker 1: And there's something about this opportunity that could be right.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but okay, So, in a way to
Speaker 1: sort of transition but also give a last thought on
Speaker 1: vander Pump, I want to say that my snatch game
Speaker 1: is DJ James.
Speaker 3: Kennedy One good, so inspired.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to.
Speaker 1: Do any part of it right now because I sort
Speaker 1: of discovered that my British accent here in London is
Speaker 1: James Kennedy it's not sort of getting better, say it is?
Speaker 4: Do you think so? Do you think? Do you think
Speaker 4: spit shit in? It's a bit shit, it's a bit ship.
Speaker 4: He's okay, he's okay, he's okay, he's off, he's off okay.
Speaker 1: So I asked some British people, do people here say
Speaker 1: are you daft? And they were like maybe all these people, yeah,
Speaker 1: all they said old people. We were told very very
Speaker 1: and no one certain terms that core blimey is has gone.
Speaker 1: It's out, it's been out.
Speaker 3: There cool blimey coore blimey.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 3: But I love it though bloody. People still throw around
Speaker 3: bloody and I never really bloody to me, seems like
Speaker 3: a little too on the nose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody, bloody, bloody, brilliant, brilliant, bloody, brilliant in that,
Speaker 1: and then it's bloody brilliant in.
Speaker 4: It smashed it, smashed it, knackered knacker. You're right, babes,
Speaker 4: you're right, babes. Yeah, good okay, yeah, good yeah, good
Speaker 4: coffee coffee should what?
Speaker 2: So get this.
Speaker 1: The other night we're going out to the bar to
Speaker 1: watch we watched drag Race. Had two brewers, so I
Speaker 1: go early. Bone's working filming the film, and I go
Speaker 1: with Matt Whitaker, our dearest dearest, and we go to
Speaker 1: because I want to see, yes, the Rupol's drag race
Speaker 1: episode that we.
Speaker 2: Guess judge out in the wild. So we go to
Speaker 2: two brewers.
Speaker 1: In chap Them Clapham Clapham Clapham. And we get there
Speaker 1: and there's ten six to ten people there. I say,
Speaker 1: this is fine. I walk in and it's like exactly
Speaker 1: when I'm coming on to do the snatch game. And
Speaker 1: then fast forward to Boone gets there, et cetera. We're
Speaker 1: leaving the bar.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Who walks up Tia coffee herself.
Speaker 3: Tia Coffee herself and perplexed, perplexed, like what I just
Speaker 3: watched you guys on that. She's like, what are you
Speaker 3: guys doing here? We're like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And then we turned to our right and there is
Speaker 1: the legend something something wo drag race UK fucking we scream,
Speaker 1: we screamed.
Speaker 3: We were absolutely full on doing that alan terning type
Speaker 3: we did.
Speaker 1: We literally I looked at Tea Coffee and all I
Speaker 1: could do was type was tighte And I was like
Speaker 1: it boemost like you were shamed.
Speaker 3: You were like how many people doing this to shame?
Speaker 3: I was like, all I said, was, I mean you
Speaker 3: two literally did the thing that She like immediately kind
Speaker 3: of like rolled her eyes out and was like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Isn't it like how many thousands of facts I've gone
Speaker 1: offic It's iconic. It is so iconic, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's like when Lady Gota
Speaker 1: came out with bad Romance and that's always gonna be
Speaker 1: like her big song. It's like Britney Spears maybe one
Speaker 1: more time, tea coffee.
Speaker 3: Is typing typing, and that's just it's just gonna be it.
Speaker 3: And she could not have been lovelier. She said, are
Speaker 3: you guys going to Hoopla? We said, we have to
Speaker 3: get for Sunday. We'll get into Hoopla later.
Speaker 2: We had last the most amazing time.
Speaker 3: Should we talk about drag race?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Should we talk about Well?
Speaker 1: So then I turned I turned to Bowen and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm tea coffee and you're something long And Bowen said.
Speaker 3: That's the most racist thing you said to me in years.
Speaker 3: In a very lightly, in a light way way. I said,
Speaker 3: that's the most racist thing. And it was. It really
Speaker 3: really was drag race.
Speaker 1: Let's just say we've been sitting on this one, sitting
Speaker 1: on a secret, Sit on a secret.
Speaker 2: We went into that episode.
Speaker 1: We were invited to be guest judges on the Snatch
Speaker 1: Game of Love episode.
Speaker 3: It was more fun than it looked. It was so
Speaker 3: much more fun than it looked. Surreal. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know what to me, like, have you thought this? I
Speaker 3: can't believe that was two days. It felt like one
Speaker 3: continuum of time. Yeah, a blur.
Speaker 2: Can we say?
Speaker 1: It is such a happy set, everyone's loving their life.
Speaker 1: And I also we should say we got there like right,
Speaker 1: I think it was two days after they had received
Speaker 1: like another boatload of Emmy nominations. Right, So the vibes
Speaker 1: were good, the queen's were well, it was a weird day.
Speaker 3: Heidi was there. We were told all the queens' Snatch
Speaker 3: Game impressions. Yes, I see a Heidi doing blackber. I go,
Speaker 3: that's really interesting and funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the peak behind the curtain is Bowen is
Speaker 2: sitting watching it like.
Speaker 3: I'm watching Matt's Snatch Game round. He's watching my round,
Speaker 3: and so I hear him cackle at the Jimbo tap dance.
Speaker 3: My god, I can't see I have no idea what's
Speaker 3: going on, but all I hear is Rue and Matt
Speaker 3: Geffi I was you don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Definitely read on television because everyone's talking about how funny
Speaker 1: it was watching Jimbo do that tap dance and the
Speaker 1: whole performance. But watching Jimbo do the tap dance in person,
Speaker 1: especially because it's so quiet in the room, you have
Speaker 1: to imagine like no other sound except the sound of
Speaker 1: Rue screaming laughing at this justifiably yes, and also to
Speaker 1: say nothing of Rube was screaming dying at Alexis Michelle's
Speaker 1: b Arthur. Oh, but the Shirley Temple and the b
Speaker 1: Arthur were great. But the Shirley Temple tap dance one
Speaker 1: of the funniest things I have seen ever.
Speaker 3: It's so clown school, it's so kibit qua. It's like
Speaker 3: Canadian like. It's literally Jimbo like came up doing that,
Speaker 3: and it's like god, it like it's perfect to marry
Speaker 3: that into drag.
Speaker 1: I was dying because you're on the other side of
Speaker 1: the sugar wall, not being able to see it. Just
Speaker 1: your mouth is like open, like because you knew something
Speaker 1: was happening. But you could not possibly see what everyone
Speaker 1: on set is screaming. And then so what happens is
Speaker 1: I sort of had Let's just say it, it was like
Speaker 1: a I have like a flop group.
Speaker 3: I thought James was James was great, and it was
Speaker 3: a little unfair. I think it's like, okay, let's say,
Speaker 3: sure every gay man has Identifer Colnder impression. She made
Speaker 3: it work for snatch game in a way that was
Speaker 3: like great, Like she reacted to everything that was thrown
Speaker 3: in her. She was so funny, I mean whatever, she
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 2: We'll also remember that this happened.
Speaker 3: Last July, pre White Lotaded season two, pre.
Speaker 1: White Little season two, so it was like both a
Speaker 1: perfect like timing thing because now she's like uber famous,
Speaker 1: but also at the time it was not as is
Speaker 1: okay Jennifer Coolidge as it is now, but she was
Speaker 1: clearly the.
Speaker 2: Winner of that group. Agreed and was great.
Speaker 1: But watching your group was like they crushed it so
Speaker 1: much fun I mean even like you know, I guess
Speaker 1: if the fourth place out of that was like La
Speaker 1: La Ria Sukiana, like it was still like a wonderful sligh.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love Candy Cutty was great. Cut to
Speaker 3: Candy just looking at Jimo up and down while the
Speaker 3: tap dance was happening with a cigarette in her mouth.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's really good.
Speaker 1: Candy had jokes like like Ruby, I'm like, you can
Speaker 1: call the fizz and then Candy goes.
Speaker 3: You tell me you're the one. Mike really good. It
Speaker 3: was good.
Speaker 1: I mean it was great. So we did our little
Speaker 1: lip sync. They showed about a third of it. We
Speaker 1: did do the whole rock Sandras verse, Yes to read
Speaker 1: You Wrote You, and then that was over in like
Speaker 1: two hours, right, two and a half hours. That was
Speaker 1: a shorter day.
Speaker 3: That was a shorter day. And then it's the main
Speaker 3: stage day that like is the full eight nine hour experience.
Speaker 3: It's really and wild, really wild, really fun again. Silent soundstage, Yeah,
Speaker 3: silent soundstage. Amazing to be there in person, though it
Speaker 3: is true. They do two walks each one with the trap,
Speaker 3: one without so that we can just say our little quips. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ross Matthews was next to us, so lovely, so lovely,
Speaker 3: so helpful.
Speaker 1: Ross was like, okay, so this is what happens, like
Speaker 1: and like give us the download and thank god because
Speaker 1: no one really told us, like the ins and outs,
Speaker 1: like the t he goes, okay, so they're gonna go
Speaker 1: with the music and then you're right down your little
Speaker 1: jokes or whatever like and he.
Speaker 2: Goes just like, you know, let me shall go first,
Speaker 2: let me show go first. And that was right because
Speaker 2: Michelle was a machine. Yep. She set the tone with
Speaker 2: those puns totally. And Rue was also unreal and Ross
Speaker 2: was of course amazing, like they correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: Like that was like one of the highlights of the
Speaker 2: day was hearing how quick they were with all of
Speaker 2: those puns and jokes like it is.
Speaker 3: Ye and it is like you and I just having
Speaker 3: to like get in there. And it reminded me of
Speaker 3: like any like writers room yep, where it's like she's
Speaker 3: gotta like find the right opening yep. But it was
Speaker 3: like that time it sped up to like a thousand,
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you got it, just really and it
Speaker 3: was so fun and Michelle is definitely head judge vibes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you fall right in line.
Speaker 1: Like and also you know, we were saying the tea
Speaker 1: where she was talking Broadway, it was giving Michelle psage.
Speaker 3: We were talking about Funny Girl. We were that was
Speaker 3: when Funny Girl was going down. Yep, yep, but she
Speaker 3: had thoughts on everything, thoughts and it was pre Lea starting,
Speaker 3: but it was right as things were, like transitioning from
Speaker 3: from Beanie to Leah.
Speaker 1: So very interesting to be on the ground for that tea.
Speaker 1: And then they tell us, oh they tell us before. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, while Bowen did not get to see
Speaker 1: Jimbo in person, they in the beginning of the day,
Speaker 1: we see like an already edited version of the show
Speaker 1: yes which was interesting.
Speaker 2: They like put it together.
Speaker 1: They were like, so this is what we put together
Speaker 1: of yesterday, so you guys can have seen Snatch games.
Speaker 2: So we did get like a complete view of the whole.
Speaker 3: Snatch so that we could critique fairly.
Speaker 1: Right, then they say Heidi has chosen to leave for
Speaker 1: mental health reasons, and the queens are like shook. So
Speaker 1: we were just like moving forward and yeah, watched the runway,
Speaker 1: did the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It is so quiet, You're right.
Speaker 3: It is so cool, even during the Lipstick Assassin reveal,
Speaker 3: when that thing is going, it is nothing so funny, silent, silent,
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 1: All the lights are going dun dunt, dun't. But you
Speaker 1: have to in your brain be like, oh, my god, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: Rue also walks the runway to silence, yes, which was hilarious,
Speaker 1: and they do the whole bit and then yeah, Jasmine
Speaker 1: Kennedy came out crushed it. When they do a death drop,
Speaker 1: the sound that the floor mix is so jarring. And
Speaker 1: we turned to Ross and we're like, is it like
Speaker 1: that every time? And roscoes every time it's always scary?
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I remember him saying that.
Speaker 2: I was like, does this sound like that every time?
Speaker 3: Every time? Oh wow?
Speaker 1: Just like the sound of like a body hitting the floor,
Speaker 1: Not like a fun death drop moment. It was the
Speaker 1: sound of a body slamming to the.
Speaker 3: Floor on fucking like a vinyl tile or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: You know. Mayhem Miller did our hair and makeup. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, legend, Jem legend. We love her so much.
Speaker 3: She made us look it's you know, it's the filter
Speaker 3: on the camera on the lens beat us down. But
Speaker 3: we were beat down, and I mean, I've never looked bronzer.
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was Here's what I'll say to everyone being like
Speaker 1: they were glowing radiant. We were beat to hell by
Speaker 1: a drag queen and had Rue Paul's lighting yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all there is.
Speaker 3: But what else do you want?
Speaker 2: Like, and I wish we could say that's how we looked.
Speaker 3: No, it will never be again. It will never be again.
Speaker 3: That's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Also, I was absolutely dying of Shigella.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't you reminded me and I
Speaker 3: that was I remember this.
Speaker 1: Rita's will remember when we came back from Fire Island
Speaker 1: last year. Oh my god, I was talking about how
Speaker 1: sick I was, how I had had interactions with gay
Speaker 1: men that led to me being sick. Understand, we shot
Speaker 1: this episode of drag Race a week later. I was
Speaker 1: so ill. Bone and I were sharing a trailer. I
Speaker 1: felt so bad for you because I was I.
Speaker 3: Had I wanted to make sure you were okay.
Speaker 1: I had the runs down, like I was like dehydrated
Speaker 1: for a week leading up to it. It was the
Speaker 1: fact that we were able to pull me together for
Speaker 1: that was while I was really upset because I was like,
Speaker 1: am I gonna have to like cancel drag Race because
Speaker 1: I'm miss sick.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you we barely made it.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one would be able to tell.
Speaker 1: Because of the power of lighting and hair and makeup,
Speaker 1: and Michael Fisher dressed us down.
Speaker 3: Thank you Michael, Thank you King.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that's a little people behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: I was dripping with sweat every second, like dying.
Speaker 3: Dying, dying, dying, dying in a way where you're like, god,
Speaker 3: I hate hate that feeling of when you're sick, dehydrated,
Speaker 3: just like emptying yourself so often from either end that
Speaker 3: you go. I didn't know I had this much content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was creating content all day. I
Speaker 2: really was.
Speaker 1: And basically, like we made it through. I think my
Speaker 1: body was like not allowing me to fuck up that moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, we're making it through. I mean, thank
Speaker 1: god we did, because it was that was as much
Speaker 1: of a life highlight as it looked like. And like
Speaker 1: I said, everyone was so nice. And you know, I
Speaker 1: heard a little bit about the rest of the season
Speaker 1: and I heard it's great, and I mean, give it
Speaker 1: up for what I'm gonna call one of the best
Speaker 1: drag race performances in a single episode ever by Jimbo.
Speaker 3: I mean that runway, that runway, I mean, describe what
Speaker 3: it was like watching it come down the runway. It
Speaker 3: was horror it was hard. We were like literally, we
Speaker 3: were like, what the fuck are we looking at? And
Speaker 3: then as soon as she turned all of us on
Speaker 3: the judges table screamed screaming.
Speaker 2: Because I really thought for a while that was her
Speaker 2: face right there's I don't know how to describe like
Speaker 2: it looked just like weird makeup on her face. She
Speaker 2: was moving her head in a weird way. That's how
Speaker 2: effective it was in person, so.
Speaker 3: Effective the feat the bend in the knees looking completely
Speaker 3: unnatural to the point where you're like, is this something
Speaker 3: wrong with her? But like and within the realm of possibility,
Speaker 3: being like wait, like what's happened? And then the turn,
Speaker 3: I mean the two reveals. Yeah, because then the snake
Speaker 3: popping under the apple was lovely.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you put that together with that smash game,
Speaker 1: it's a rap.
Speaker 2: I mean that was the only part of the episode.
Speaker 1: I was like, there was a lack of surprise and
Speaker 1: suspense because kind of knew they weren't going to eliminate
Speaker 1: someone when the HEIGHTI had left early. Definitely a slam
Speaker 1: dunk win for Jimbo. And also we saw Jasmine earlier
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 3: You did, I didn't see her.
Speaker 1: I think I was like, I think I did see
Speaker 1: her because I was like, oh, look, I think I
Speaker 1: told you. I was like, it's Jasmine. You were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, really and I was like, yeah, for
Speaker 1: sure because she's and there's no other reason for her
Speaker 1: to be here, because I think we were told all
Speaker 1: the queens that had been there and had been eliminated,
Speaker 1: huh or were we.
Speaker 3: Well we were told, yes, yes, we were told. And
Speaker 3: then we literally saw Darien Lake pass us for the
Speaker 3: Fame Game, for the Fame Games. I mean wait, we
Speaker 3: got to wave at her and we waved to Dave.
Speaker 2: I was bummed that she was, like, I was like,
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have.
Speaker 3: Seen her, but you know, yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: Let me no regrets.
Speaker 3: That was I mean, Dragars was a slave. Like Okay,
Speaker 3: let's talk about our concert going experiences of.
Speaker 1: Maybe what you're all here for, because can you even
Speaker 1: believe the like the couple of weeks that we've had
Speaker 1: that like, that wasn't even the first thing that we
Speaker 1: jumped into. The fact that we saw Eras and Renaissance
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: You being on the floor for both of those and
Speaker 3: relatively the same spot weirdly you were on this Yes,
Speaker 3: you were like stage you were stage left on the
Speaker 3: floor for both shows.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I so let's should we do eras first? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the aerostar, a feet of stamina, Oh, a feat of
Speaker 2: their showcase of Songwriting.
Speaker 3: Masterclass. Everyone in that stadium.
Speaker 2: Oh, my best friends with each other.
Speaker 3: Best friends with each other. The friendship bracelets. That was
Speaker 3: so cute, so cute. I mean, we met so many
Speaker 3: lovely people who just came up to us, gave gave
Speaker 3: us Taylor Swift bracelets. I had one that was just
Speaker 3: Karma is a catbead.
Speaker 1: I got that one to actually, so that one was
Speaker 1: really really cute. No, people were like the energy in
Speaker 1: the stadium was definitely and yes it was MetLife Stadium,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that. But it was so like, to
Speaker 3: use the.
Speaker 2: Words of Ilana Glazer on this podcast, there was a
Speaker 2: thick joy in the stadium. We got there. We decided
Speaker 2: to get there a little bit late, so we caught
Speaker 2: like the last half of.
Speaker 1: Miss Bridgers and then we get there and Taylor from
Speaker 1: seven to fifty five pm to eleven twenty five pm,
Speaker 1: I guess just gives three and a half hours of
Speaker 1: the Era's tour. This was the only way I can
Speaker 1: describe it is it's the fucking world's biggest pop star
Speaker 1: showcasing the most coveted, impressive library of pop music. And
Speaker 1: it really didn't feel like anything was super missing, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: If anything like it's speak now stuff, if.
Speaker 1: Anything, yes, speak now, I would have loved to hear
Speaker 1: like Sparks Fly we said. But also the surprise songs
Speaker 1: we got Welcome to New York, which I could see
Speaker 1: some people around me being like, Okay, we got Welcome
Speaker 1: to New York.
Speaker 2: I was thrilled.
Speaker 3: I was thrilled with Welcome to New York, we got
Speaker 3: Welcome to York and Clean, which before the end of Clean,
Speaker 3: like there were some people around me who were like,
Speaker 3: she's doing first track of nineteen nine and last track.
Speaker 3: Is she about to announce something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did feel like that.
Speaker 1: And then but did not come to pat She did
Speaker 1: not lovely. I mean when she announced Clean, we collapsed.
Speaker 1: We had a physical collapse into each It was. It
Speaker 1: was I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it because she did debut a rule
Speaker 3: for herself that she has set, which is she's allowed
Speaker 3: to repeat a song if she either messed up a
Speaker 3: lyric or if she feels like she could have done
Speaker 3: it better. And I feel like I could have done
Speaker 3: this in a higher key.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, we got most of the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine now, but my guess we did, and
Speaker 1: we famously saw nineteen.
Speaker 2: Eighty nine world tour there years and years ago. Do
Speaker 2: you have highlights? I mean, I I there were so many,
Speaker 2: But what are your highlights?
Speaker 3: So many? I loved Cruel Summer. I love that she
Speaker 3: set up cruel Summer. She she took a moment to
Speaker 3: address the crowd before the bridge. He goes, we've rid
Speaker 3: at the first bridge of the night. Yes, let's cross
Speaker 3: it together. Oh my cross I mean screamed, and then
Speaker 3: we all screamed. We scrowm. And then highlight for me
Speaker 3: was folklore.
Speaker 2: Folklore felt huge. That was one thing when it first
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 1: I remember us talking by the way we iconically first
Speaker 1: listened to folklore in Greta Titleman's home, and when the
Speaker 1: girls were talking and we were like.
Speaker 2: You guys, need to stop talk.
Speaker 3: Study and Greta were trying on outfits and showing us,
Speaker 3: and I was like this is this isn't the time.
Speaker 2: This is not fashion show is on in Greta's home
Speaker 2: and someone else's.
Speaker 3: And someone else's home. We were making rules.
Speaker 1: I feel like weren't we always saying though, like how
Speaker 1: is this going to feel? She's not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do an intimate concert of this, don't worry if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2: Folklore feels massive. Yeah, and the Bridge of Illicit Affairs. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I turned to you and you were like, wow, she
Speaker 2: really fit that one in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't can't even tell you. It felt like the
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've I love that in your Instagram caption.
Speaker 2: It was ma sure, And we keep saying Betty.
Speaker 3: Who I love that song so much? Might be my
Speaker 3: favorite off of Well, it's hard between Betty August and Mirraball.
Speaker 3: I was missing Miraball from that sets. No problem, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I think she's done it.
Speaker 2: It was I think one of the first surprise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was a highlight. I
Speaker 3: loved Reputation.
Speaker 1: Reputation was just as major as you think it's going
Speaker 1: to be. This when the snake starts coming on the
Speaker 1: back back while you're like absolutely, it was like the
Speaker 1: energy pick back up again.
Speaker 2: It was like a new concert, start a new concert.
Speaker 3: That's one thing I'll.
Speaker 1: Compliment her on is like every era felt extremely vivid
Speaker 1: and its own thing. Like it was like it was
Speaker 1: almost like it was like nine or ten isolated concerts
Speaker 1: in that way, like really smart. I think to start
Speaker 1: with Lover because it's light out and it feels like
Speaker 1: that that like energy picks it up, like it's like
Speaker 1: we're doing it as like, you know, the sun is
Speaker 1: setting and huh, by the time it's.
Speaker 2: Reputation, there's not a light in the sky.
Speaker 3: It's the damn we're at the fucking sex dungeon, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, and approaching midnight for Midnight, Yes Genius, which
Speaker 3: went really hard midnights. I was not expecting to love
Speaker 3: live that much. Fucking Bejeweled, Oh l g B t
Speaker 3: qu I a plus recruitment song. Actually, I'm upset.
Speaker 2: That Jeweled is not nominated for the Diplo Award for LGBTQ.
Speaker 3: That's a mistake on our part in terms of the
Speaker 3: campaign timeline, in terms of the nomination's announcement timeline. Yes,
Speaker 3: we'll get into the awards later.
Speaker 1: Yes, And there's some things you need to know about
Speaker 1: the awards. There's some songs you need to get off
Speaker 1: book for, there's some things you need to prepare. But
Speaker 1: I'll say this, the witchiness of Evermore being leaned into
Speaker 1: I think really helped to distinguish it from from Yes Yes,
Speaker 1: because there's a there's a stark difference between Evermore and Folklore,
Speaker 1: which you didn't express, like Evermore felt like dark, yes yes,
Speaker 1: and Folklore felt.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say the most basic word, lighter.
Speaker 3: It just felt its witches. Yeah, yes, Evermore is as
Speaker 3: witches folklore is. I'm going to say this doesn't quite
Speaker 3: feel right, but fairy, yeah, nymph, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: dry Ad yes, and woods.
Speaker 2: The Burning House into Fearless, Oh my.
Speaker 3: God, love love it.
Speaker 1: Fearliss was also a moment Red to say nothing of Red.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we're just taking Red for a granted
Speaker 1: at this point, because Red also had Red was like
Speaker 1: a featured moment of the show. Was like an extended
Speaker 1: moment in the show, the ten minute all too well,
Speaker 1: just it does exactly what you think it's gonna do.
Speaker 3: It unifies, it unifies. She is in a fucking red
Speaker 3: sequined trench. Coade. I want to say some kind of
Speaker 3: cape situation, like it just looks like that stage picture
Speaker 3: is wow. Yeah, it's it's huge. And then blank Space,
Speaker 3: I mean widely agreed upon by many, many authoritatively musical
Speaker 3: people that one of the best pop songs ever written.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's effervescent, it lifts, it is one
Speaker 2: of the great moments, one of the great moment concert
Speaker 2: going history. Yes, when you listen to blank Space amongst
Speaker 2: the girls.
Speaker 3: Upunks to the girl, a pong, it falls up hoongs
Speaker 3: to the girl.
Speaker 1: It fell apongst us, and I knew that Taylor was
Speaker 1: looking upongst Us and feeling very proud of what she
Speaker 1: had accomplished. There also like shake it off, crushed it.
Speaker 1: I was dancing like.
Speaker 2: A gay man, and I really was. And I looked
Speaker 2: over and you were being gay.
Speaker 3: I was being gay.
Speaker 1: We were both being pretty gay during the show throughout. Yes,
Speaker 1: while the streams IT'SO bad blood and I'm not even
Speaker 1: a bad blood.
Speaker 3: Super It was so fun, fun little moment. And then
Speaker 3: getting out of meant life was pure hell, cruel, cruel,
Speaker 3: but we we were lucky, we were like we were
Speaker 3: out of there. Within it was not chromatica ball level. No,
Speaker 3: and we were just listening to tunes in the car.
Speaker 3: We were listening to some some Mazy Peters tracks.
Speaker 1: And we were actually were listening to an upcoming album.
Speaker 1: Were listening we got to listen to an upcoming album.
Speaker 3: And more on that. So more on that. So let's
Speaker 3: talk about we're going to be seeing Renaissance Tour. We're like,
Speaker 3: you know, have to see Renaissance Tour twice. We're gonna
Speaker 3: see it a Met Life again, let's talk about Renaissance
Speaker 3: in London. At first of all, wonderfully run venue.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this was if compared to MetLife.
Speaker 3: This was like I was at Disney.
Speaker 1: It was as if Okay, So getting into MetLife was
Speaker 1: like trying to get a reservation that at the invite
Speaker 1: only Chipprianni's.
Speaker 3: And getting into Tottenham.
Speaker 2: Was walking into McDonald's, walking into McDonald's, walking into McDonald's at.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like one pm on a weekday.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, no one's here.
Speaker 3: Or no, it's everyone's here, but everyone's able to like
Speaker 3: get to a touch screen.
Speaker 2: Exactly, you know.
Speaker 1: And I mean this was so we get there, we're
Speaker 1: not seated together, see it together, bone was up in
Speaker 1: the nosebleeds. Still a perfect view, Still a perfect view,
Speaker 1: because this show bigger, pure spectacle. She's one of our.
Speaker 1: She not one of ours, she is no. She is
Speaker 1: our best, our greatest living performer. And people being like
Speaker 1: Taylor or Beyonce, what was better? Don't even go there,
Speaker 1: hant to compare it. It's apples and oranges. It is
Speaker 1: actually the definition of apples and oranges. They should start
Speaker 1: saying Beyonce and Tailor's because say that that's a real culture.
Speaker 1: Twenty four, it's a core number twenty four, Apples and oranges.
Speaker 1: They should say Beyonce's and tailors because Taylor was, like
Speaker 1: I said, world's biggest pop star, presenting her and showcasing
Speaker 1: her library.
Speaker 2: Beyonce Renaissance was.
Speaker 3: Let me get the ballads out of the way, and
Speaker 3: let's we're going to turn this into the fucking club.
Speaker 1: World's greatest performer and most important artist. Giving the Renaissance
Speaker 1: Ball and installment in her career, it didn't.
Speaker 2: Feel like cumulative, although it was.
Speaker 1: It felt like I'm doing the Renaissance Ball, And it
Speaker 1: was rumored that she was going to come out and
Speaker 1: be her own opening act. She comes out uses both
Speaker 1: the most perfect songs to open with and also the
Speaker 1: most random songs to open with, Dangerously in Love, into
Speaker 1: Flaws and all into one plus one into a cover
Speaker 1: of I'm Going Down Into I Care with some Tina
Speaker 1: Proud Mary ballad version.
Speaker 2: Tina Turner, I'm urver deep manaight ververt deep Mountain.
Speaker 3: Huh huh. A beautiful Renditionnelie such an unexpected original interpretation
Speaker 3: of that song. And then like fully in her Vegas
Speaker 3: residency gown yep, like she's changing up the looks each show,
Speaker 3: but each show is giving like I could do a
Speaker 3: Vegas presidency if.
Speaker 2: I want, if I wanted, if I ever gained.
Speaker 3: And what I find really nice about Renaissance, about the
Speaker 3: Renaissance tour is that if I'm going to compare it
Speaker 3: to Formation, Formation was her being like, I'm doing stadiums now,
Speaker 3: let me give you everything, and it was just intense,
Speaker 3: like everything out of fucking fourteen, big, big, big, and
Speaker 3: this I feel like, was let me just give you looks, gags, fun,
Speaker 3: everyone is having a good fucking time. It was a
Speaker 3: par It was a fucking party in a stadium like that,
Speaker 3: I'm like chromatica ball wasn't even necessarily giving that, Like
Speaker 3: chromatica Ball was like this is years in the making,
Speaker 3: Like I'm finally getting to tour with us. Renaissance tour
Speaker 3: was like, let's just have fucking fun.
Speaker 1: It somehow, And maybe it's because the ga that I
Speaker 1: was in was like entirely standing on them and it
Speaker 1: was like a dance party down there. It somehow really
Speaker 1: made the entire stadium feel like a dance floor, and
Speaker 1: that is like the best compliment I can give it.
Speaker 1: It was to say nothing of like how much of
Speaker 1: the stadium she seemed to use, Like it was like
Speaker 1: a three sixty experience in a way, the camera being
Speaker 1: in the skies, the way she would find the camera
Speaker 1: and the air just like truly, no one is capable
Speaker 1: of this. I mean, it's hard to even say highlights
Speaker 1: because the whole thing felt like the Renaissance album, like.
Speaker 2: A continuous party.
Speaker 1: But I would say this section, when we were calling
Speaker 1: the red section, she started with formation and went through
Speaker 1: a black parade.
Speaker 3: Through I mean my power black parade, Oh my gum,
Speaker 3: into fucking savage.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah savage. The woman rode out on a
Speaker 2: tank while her daughter is the most unbothered child to
Speaker 2: ever even imagine.
Speaker 3: And people can, I say, people online.
Speaker 1: Being like Blue Ivy Carter is not slaying you weren't there,
Speaker 1: weren't there, you weren't there.
Speaker 2: It's actually an unbothered sleigh.
Speaker 3: She's hitting every fucking move but she's going, she's giving
Speaker 3: you like nothing in the face and it is so
Speaker 3: fucking perfect, perfect, perfect, So.
Speaker 2: And she's also leading this huge like processional behind her
Speaker 2: and you're looking right at her and it is I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's way more impressive than I think the stupid
Speaker 2: tiktoks and videos are making it out to be.
Speaker 3: She's always gonna dull and dilute it, like yeah, of
Speaker 3: course you're not gonna get the same experience watching it
Speaker 3: from your fucking phone. No, no, like it is something
Speaker 3: else to be there. And then the moment that got
Speaker 3: me was huge run of applause for Blue, like they
Speaker 3: like showing the line on Blue. Everyone's losing their minds,
Speaker 3: just living for this little girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cuts to Beyonce on the Big Camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the proudest, glowing, glowing and she says everybody say, hey,
Speaker 1: miss Carter, and what I as Blue is leaving And
Speaker 1: everyone says hey, miss Carter. And then my favorite thing
Speaker 1: is she goes right into a fucking partition. So she's like,
Speaker 1: now my daughter's gonna leave, and I'm gonna get into
Speaker 1: my big slut moment, and she goes, do I have
Speaker 1: any partition fans in the audience? As if anyone would
Speaker 1: dare not be the biggest partition fan. She gave partition
Speaker 1: as blue as exiting, and then I believe it was
Speaker 1: into savage. So she was like, now that my daughter's
Speaker 1: not here, let me let my pussy into the wind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, who that is a fucking catalog?
Speaker 1: Oh peer, Yeah, I mean just like and also to
Speaker 1: say nothing of the set list too, was just perfection
Speaker 1: because then she gives love on top and she lets
Speaker 1: the audience go into the key changes and she's just
Speaker 1: like helping out and she's like yes, and then it
Speaker 1: explodes into crazy and love and you didn't see it coming,
Speaker 1: and then she just begins her stomp does original choreo.
Speaker 2: It just takes you back to two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I remember, like not only the music video obviously,
Speaker 1: but and also that iconic song which is like still
Speaker 1: like we said earlier, like you know, like It's that
Speaker 1: thing of like tea coffee will always be typing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that he gota will always be bad romance like
Speaker 1: Beyonce has done Beyonce since that, but still Crazy in
Speaker 1: Love is still that moment that we will always remember
Speaker 1: and I'll just never forget watching her performance on the
Speaker 1: VMA's that You're years and years and years ago and
Speaker 1: watching that original choreo. I used to fast forward it,
Speaker 1: rewind it, just just like watch it again and again
Speaker 1: and again, and just to see her do that original
Speaker 1: choreo again, I was like, my god, this is like
Speaker 1: standing the test of time in such a way.
Speaker 3: And uh, to your point about like her finding the cameras,
Speaker 3: I think she knows her stage picture at all times
Speaker 3: like no one else. It's so wild. Yeah, she knows
Speaker 3: exactly how she looks in every single moment. Yes she does.
Speaker 1: Ah, I mean and every every track of Renaissance was perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean highlights include I mean Alien Superstar obviously fucking.
Speaker 2: Move was incredible, amazing, pure honey.
Speaker 1: Just like the like Vogue section of that, like the
Speaker 1: ball section of that was so unbelievable to watch. Her
Speaker 1: dancers are fucking phenomenal. It's just and she has never
Speaker 1: and this is obviously like it. It's like you have
Speaker 1: to toss her hands up and say this, but like,
Speaker 1: never looked more beautiful, never looked.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 3: I know, I know. Mm hmm. It sounded perfect, giving
Speaker 3: us a live vocal start to finish.
Speaker 2: A million notes like never lost I know, never lost it,
Speaker 2: duh duh. But like I mean, and so I would say, so,
Speaker 2: how many times have you seen her?
Speaker 3: I started with missus Carter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I saw one before that, I saw this before,
Speaker 1: always say will always be my favorite because it was
Speaker 1: the most intimate. It was so intimate and so small,
Speaker 1: and it was just unreal because I believe that was
Speaker 1: like formative for me at the time. This was unreal.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Renaissance Tour. It gave everything, It
Speaker 1: gave everything.
Speaker 3: Heated. The only time she dropped quote unquote any like
Speaker 3: lyric or anything was heated where she literally like before
Speaker 3: the song before she goes into the sun, she goes,
Speaker 3: y'all want to help me on unheeded because like I
Speaker 3: get two words in too, like that you know that
Speaker 3: end section, and it like and I started to run
Speaker 3: out of breath and there's no way any one person
Speaker 3: can do that whole section without running out of breath. No,
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, like we know every fucking word. God, I
Speaker 3: fucking love that shit.
Speaker 1: She also, I have to say, like one of the
Speaker 1: highights for me was Break My Soul into like the
Speaker 1: Vogue remix and Break My Soul, which she gave also
Speaker 1: the whole thing and like all the names came up
Speaker 1: on the back wall. By the way, just claps and
Speaker 1: a standing ovation to the crew of both of these shows.
Speaker 1: I mean, the unreal production value, like the robots, the robotics,
Speaker 1: and the Beyonce show just like the Metropolis vibes of
Speaker 1: it all, like.
Speaker 3: Beyonce being the lay weather. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Just like truly like when she comes out for the
Speaker 1: for after she opens the show, she comes out and
Speaker 1: she's like encased in like metallic silver, and these robots
Speaker 1: literally remove pieces of her garment so she can come
Speaker 1: out and like perform. It is it's so surreal to
Speaker 1: watch and it's just so perfectly realized, and she is
Speaker 1: holding the center the entire time.
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's just.
Speaker 3: We're very lucky that we got to see these performers.
Speaker 3: We went to mighty Hoopla the day after a big
Speaker 3: queer music festival in the UK in London, Bropel Park
Speaker 3: and Brixton. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2: As if we needed to be more blissed out, I know.
Speaker 3: It was just a lovely experience. We saw Dagnyagny was incredible.
Speaker 3: That's another like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep your eye on the live vocal on her. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is like pop perfection.
Speaker 3: That is just like I mean you want clean pop, yeah,
Speaker 3: not clean clean as in just like these melodies are
Speaker 3: like fucking Razor sharp.
Speaker 1: And perfect pop voice. I mean truly just really that girl.
Speaker 1: Then we went over and we saw.
Speaker 3: Who, Like, I love that she's just gotten like really
Speaker 3: queer and massive. Like so I've been a fan of
Speaker 3: hers for years now and I think she's so so
Speaker 3: so wonderful. Everyone should check her out. But she has
Speaker 3: a song called say my Name, not in reference to
Speaker 3: Beyonce or Destiny's Child, wonderful song and that was like
Speaker 3: a different, smaller venue. And then we saw Confidence Man,
Speaker 3: who were goofy, fun, stupid, weird and I use all
Speaker 3: of those words lovingly. And then we saw Jake Shears.
Speaker 1: Jake Shears just lovely, what incredible, iconic energy like looking
Speaker 1: just as good as the day one, so fun.
Speaker 3: So fun. And then we went to a dance party
Speaker 3: under a tent called Swift againin.
Speaker 2: Yes we did.
Speaker 1: We went to something called Swift again and it was
Speaker 1: another hour. As if we needed more tailor, we just
Speaker 1: heard those same songs again with hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 1: British Swifties who were all equally excited to be there,
Speaker 1: screaming all ten minutes of the all too well ten
Speaker 1: minute version. Everyone was off book. Yes, we did experience
Speaker 1: Swift again in post aerostour, and we will be seeing
Speaker 1: the aerostour again, so that is where we are at.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's gonna be a summer of music. I'm sure
Speaker 3: I'll end up at one of the Madonna shows.
Speaker 2: Really would like to go.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's worth as our experiences
Speaker 3: are general, I'm saying like hour, as in like everyone's
Speaker 3: experience with Madonna live lately has been okay, I guess
Speaker 3: we're waiting around for an hour and a half, longer
Speaker 3: than we thought we would. Yeah, but no problem, it's Madonna.
Speaker 1: Apparently, we hope Pride was very giving. We missed it,
Speaker 1: but Jesse Ware apparently killed it. Adina was there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go next week. I'm seeing Megan thee Stallion Friday
Speaker 1: and then Mariah Saturday.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had heard that Edna was told
Speaker 3: several times to leave the stage because her set was over,
Speaker 3: and she just kept singing, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, eat, yeah, let it go. Here's what I'd
Speaker 1: say to anyone talking to Adena. They got off to
Speaker 1: stay let it.
Speaker 3: Go, and we love Adena, but there are videos out
Speaker 3: there of her bailing out on the last note of yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know what, though, good good, because you know
Speaker 3: you can't. She did the last note of de fine gravity.
Speaker 3: She did, she tried, she did, she did it, and
Speaker 3: it's growth within a set to be like for let
Speaker 3: it go for a storm ry John, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 3: the mic over to the audience.
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to you.
Speaker 3: I'm getting it to you. Gaze because you know what.
Speaker 2: Also that does it says, oh you gazed.
Speaker 3: Thing, you can do it.
Speaker 2: Try, go ahead, here's the mic. If you gaze, then
Speaker 2: you can do it. Some of them can, very few
Speaker 2: of them can. Some of them and they all try.
Speaker 3: And they all try. Have we established Idina Menzel is
Speaker 3: a base on this podcast or now is.
Speaker 1: That adena is a base. Is that one of the
Speaker 1: rules of culture. And also you know Adele Deseim is
Speaker 1: the number one moment in a culture history. So Adina
Speaker 1: has a massive place in the culture. And her move
Speaker 1: to gay icon and pride performer and pride staple, I
Speaker 1: think is long overdue.
Speaker 2: And we should also say we did see her perform
Speaker 2: her a new single.
Speaker 1: You Bet a Move from Me at the glad Awards,
Speaker 1: and she was and she did present us in Fire
Speaker 1: Island and we gave her a huge hug and she emanates.
Speaker 3: She emanates, and I.
Speaker 1: Would say, unfortunately for a move, we haven't yet talked
Speaker 1: about it yet on this podcast. But there is a
Speaker 1: song of the summer, There is a queer staple. It
Speaker 1: is a nominee for Record of the Year.
Speaker 3: It is which I think people are already trying to
Speaker 3: be like, oh, like it's we're oversaturated.
Speaker 2: No, they need to stop.
Speaker 3: No, you must just accept the fact that this song
Speaker 3: is We'll be with us for forever.
Speaker 2: I mean when you say put I go.
Speaker 1: Put um period, period, it's actually a real culture number
Speaker 1: eight when you say I say period, and that is
Speaker 1: that is forever.
Speaker 3: Put Um is forever. Putum is on the same level
Speaker 3: of staying power as Diva down. We didn't medic Boots.
Speaker 2: It's just if doctor ROBERTA Bobby wrote the song.
Speaker 3: It's doctor Roberta Bobby. It is Hi, Diva. May I
Speaker 3: call you Diva. My name is Detective Fierce. You're not
Speaker 3: in trouble, Boots. We're just trying to get the tea
Speaker 3: on the situation. It is part of the lexicon of Queerness.
Speaker 1: Get on board or else, faggot or else. The train
Speaker 1: is leaving the station and it's headed to Padam.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing rumors that Susanne Collins is rewriting the Hunger
Speaker 3: Games books to change PanAm to Padam. That's rumors. I am,
Speaker 3: I am. You are a reporter. I'm a report. Are
Speaker 3: you really?
Speaker 2: Are you break the news?
Speaker 3: I'm hearing rumors. Put it came on Hoopla. I hear it,
Speaker 3: and I know and we all activated.
Speaker 1: You don't even understand what happened at maighty Hoopla when
Speaker 1: Padam came on. The dance floor was dead then it failled.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3: We're literally walking to the urinals and Pam came on
Speaker 3: and we had to stop.
Speaker 1: Are you guys excited to see performed at the Lost
Speaker 1: Culture Recess Cultural Awards.
Speaker 2: We might be getting a big.
Speaker 1: Special guest to come perform.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about the awards.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now by now you know that all of
Speaker 1: the last Culturesis Culture Awards nominees have been announced.
Speaker 2: The campaign starts now.
Speaker 1: If you feel that you have a strong instinct as
Speaker 1: to what should win these categories, you need to be publicists. Yes,
Speaker 1: you need to get going. I need to see FYC.
Speaker 1: I need to see us being tagged. I need to
Speaker 1: see interacting with each other. I need to see campaign.
Speaker 3: I need to see campaigns. I need to see a
Speaker 3: photoshopped picture of the billboard. Period. Yes, I want to
Speaker 3: see a banner on the street. I want to see
Speaker 3: a pamphlet that you design.
Speaker 2: I just I want to see you guys activate, because otherwise,
Speaker 2: if you don't vote, period, period. If you don't vote,
Speaker 2: what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 3: You are not going to feel like a part of
Speaker 3: this award show if you don't vote, If.
Speaker 1: You don't any words of Adina Menzelle, move for me.
Speaker 1: You better move for me.
Speaker 3: Now, what do you have to say about these being
Speaker 3: the front runners, the most nominated, the most nominate, I'm sorry, Yes,
Speaker 3: the most nominated.
Speaker 2: Yes we have Doja Cat, Yes, big contender.
Speaker 3: Oreo Cookies. Breathe by faith Hill nominated in multiple categories.
Speaker 2: This was not something I saw coming this now.
Speaker 1: I did not think that Breathe by faith Hill was
Speaker 1: going to be one of the Records of the Year nominees.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, when it was, I was sort
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, I get it, because if you listen
Speaker 2: to it again, and I do want everyone listening to
Speaker 2: it again, you do realize, actually, it's one of the
Speaker 2: most important songs of the year.
Speaker 3: It is one of the most important songs of the year.
Speaker 3: And then you go and then you look down the
Speaker 3: list and you see Santa Award for being unforgettable, Breathe
Speaker 3: by faith Hill.
Speaker 1: Up against some tough competition. Yeah, but you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone saw this coming. And I guess as
Speaker 1: a Record of the Year nominee, it will be performed
Speaker 1: at the awards. Interesting now, speaking of other Record of
Speaker 1: the Year nominees that will be performed at the awards.
Speaker 1: If I had to say one thing, and I think
Speaker 1: you'll agree about this, everyone needs to be off book
Speaker 1: on eighth World Wonder by Kimberly Locke. We're gonna need
Speaker 1: a lot of audience excitement for that song because it's
Speaker 1: going to We've said.
Speaker 2: It before, but kick off the show.
Speaker 3: Have we said this before?
Speaker 2: We've said it?
Speaker 3: Thank God, Let's see what else do we have? We
Speaker 3: have All I Want for Christmas as you.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to I mean I think that
Speaker 1: probably going forward we're going to see All I Want
Speaker 1: for Christmases.
Speaker 2: You be a huge contender in this category.
Speaker 3: I think this is the first This is historic because
Speaker 3: this is the first time in any award show history
Speaker 3: for All in Want for a song to be nominated
Speaker 3: two years in for Record of the Year. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that that speaks to its cultural impact. But when
Speaker 3: I really do and remember that last year's winner was
Speaker 3: Drived Back by Candae, which has stood the test of
Speaker 3: time in its own We're still singing it, children were
Speaker 3: singing weddings at funerals, and.
Speaker 1: We're going to see what wins. I just I think
Speaker 1: this is a really tough race. Obviously, it's really exciting
Speaker 1: because all the nominees are being performed. Has really made
Speaker 1: a late case late in the year and.
Speaker 3: What's the we're missing the fifth nominee.
Speaker 1: Oh, the fifth nominee is if you asked me to
Speaker 1: you asked me to which you know you might be
Speaker 1: getting a special performance as well. And by might I
Speaker 1: mean yes.
Speaker 3: Might I mean yes I do. Are you okay? There's
Speaker 3: something going on? Everyone's congested in London? Well okay, so
Speaker 3: it's June and I'm sorry. The weather is fifty degrees
Speaker 3: or as the Brits say, you know, eighteen. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't convert.
Speaker 2: I was talking to a game man yesterday, I might
Speaker 2: hoop and he said to me, okay, so hey feva
Speaker 2: they call it here and I was like, oh my god, what, like,
Speaker 2: how do you get it?
Speaker 3: And he was like, well, you know, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: hey fever, but you get it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh allergy. Yeah, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I think you call it allergies and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, wow, to call it hey hay fever because I
Speaker 2: guess the hey in the air, but it's not.
Speaker 1: He it's dramatic to me. To me, British people calling
Speaker 1: allergies hay fevers dramatic.
Speaker 3: You live in the city, you don't live on a farm. Babe,
Speaker 3: you don't live on a farm, Honey, Honey, accept the
Speaker 3: fact that you Ben's right over there. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: There's a Costa across There's a Costa Costa coffee across
Speaker 3: the street.
Speaker 1: There's a Costa coffee across the street. It's not high fever,
Speaker 1: it's allergy. It's okay, han, han, You're not at risk.
Speaker 3: You're not at risk. There's a fucking there's a Preda Mange,
Speaker 3: there's a Sainsbury's, there's a Tesco. It's not all these things.
Speaker 3: There's all these things that are not what hey.
Speaker 2: Mikey Hoopla was a slagh.
Speaker 1: We really wish we had gotten to see Kelly Rowland
Speaker 1: the night before, but we were seeing her goddamn sister,
Speaker 1: and we heard that she wore an intense black cat
Speaker 1: suit and gave production value, budget, talent and more.
Speaker 3: I mean Kelly Roland. She to Kelly Rowland gives talent,
Speaker 3: charisma and more and more. This is the new syntactical
Speaker 3: thing that Matt is innovating on, always innovating on. But
Speaker 3: the new thing is, and please explain this for yourself,
Speaker 3: but in summary, it's to say two things and then
Speaker 3: always followed up and more.
Speaker 1: So basically, like if I was to say what London
Speaker 1: is giving, Yeah, London is giving prosperity, culture and more.
Speaker 1: Bonian gives talent, charisma and more.
Speaker 3: What the hell was that ice beucket my eye? Becket
Speaker 3: is giving sounds, coldness and more and more.
Speaker 1: I look out to London and I'm literally seeing clouds,
Speaker 1: sky and more.
Speaker 3: It's a complete thought.
Speaker 1: The title of this episode is Eras Renaissance and more.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that too. I love that
Speaker 3: so literally.
Speaker 1: So this was such a wild couple weeks that we
Speaker 1: actually made a list of things together and we've gotten
Speaker 1: through all them except too.
Speaker 2: We have to discuss the Succession finale. We do, bon Yang, what.
Speaker 1: Did you feel about the way that succession ended and
Speaker 1: how power transferred?
Speaker 3: Well, power did not transfer, I would say, I would
Speaker 3: say the only person who was really in power was
Speaker 3: Mansen and at the end of the day he still
Speaker 3: is in power. Yeah, and all along he was the
Speaker 3: only person who was in power. And that's a comment,
Speaker 3: and that's a These children were I mean, in the
Speaker 3: words of Roman, they were all bullshit, yeah the whole time,
Speaker 3: And that is the that is what the tragedy of
Speaker 3: this show is yep. And and what a fucking brilliant
Speaker 3: what a perfect, perfect finale. Yeah, I will never forget
Speaker 3: it with.
Speaker 4: This perfect finale, the cheers.
Speaker 1: That's where my voice is right now, y'all, you guys,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say right now. And I We've
Speaker 1: talked about hating saying this, but Sarah Snook, give her
Speaker 1: this was This is what I love about Succession. It
Speaker 1: is going to make brand names out of a few people.
Speaker 1: Sarah Snook. I'm so excited to see what she does next, Like,
Speaker 1: this was unbelievable. And also that's a tough turn in
Speaker 1: that almost every single episode she has an impossible task,
Speaker 1: but she is endlessly watchable. She fucking turns on a dime.
Speaker 1: You believe every second of it. It's super authentic. There's
Speaker 1: no one like her. Really, Sarah Snook is a finalist,
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy She's nominated for everything she's nominated
Speaker 1: for and even earns her own category.
Speaker 3: Earns her own category, the Shive Award, the Shivroy Awards.
Speaker 3: It's not the Sarah Snook Award, No, it's the Shipward.
Speaker 3: I've been exposed to the fan cams of SHIV slash Sarah.
Speaker 3: They are many, and they are all mesmerizing because you're
Speaker 3: just seeing clip after clip of Sarah smiling, blinking wavings,
Speaker 3: doing little things and going to this. I could be
Speaker 3: I could watch this all day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just mean like.
Speaker 3: But but yes, yes, yes, but I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: even just on a fan cam level.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, when the fan cams are giving you
Speaker 1: know that there's fans.
Speaker 3: She's an analog of Patri Pascal. It's like you could
Speaker 3: watch we could all watch a Pa Pascal pan camp.
Speaker 3: We can all watch a Sarah.
Speaker 2: Deeply mother, deeply mother and daughter in a way deeply mother.
Speaker 1: Deeply daughter, an unfortunately wife in the season finale.
Speaker 3: Trapped trapped in the car, hand on an open palm.
Speaker 2: Tragic last image.
Speaker 3: Oh dear god, both of them. I mean, what we
Speaker 3: heard was, and what I think people must know at
Speaker 3: this point is that Kendall walking back into the room,
Speaker 3: acting as if the fish bowl of this fit of
Speaker 3: these siblings, breaking down, acting as if like no one
Speaker 3: had seen what has happened, and the guy'd being like
Speaker 3: we're done'. That was the fully ad libed yeah, we're done,
Speaker 3: We're done, We're done. Like what I forget the line
Speaker 3: it's like you don't have it. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 3: little literal, but you do need to see that moment
Speaker 3: where you like it dawns on me.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I mean, just.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are, and I think this was
Speaker 1: going to be the case either way, we're just not
Speaker 1: necessarily satisfied because they either didn't see the shift turn
Speaker 1: coming or didn't buy it, or like or the whole
Speaker 1: season is a lead up to that turn. I would agree,
Speaker 1: And I also think the fact that it felt impulsive
Speaker 1: just goes to show that this is gonna be this
Speaker 1: family's reality forever. And I loved the way that it
Speaker 1: ended sort of not with them. Of course, they had
Speaker 1: like what could be deemed like a relationship ending fight,
Speaker 1: but I bet not. You get the sense of this people,
Speaker 1: these people's prison is Yes, he's sitting there staring at
Speaker 1: the water and like completely defeated, but there's also something
Speaker 1: there that's just like it's not over for him and
Speaker 1: trying to. I don't think it's like a death sentence
Speaker 1: for him. I think he's gonna keep attempting but not
Speaker 1: I don't know how he possibly could. But like, the
Speaker 1: story is not over for the family and in terms
Speaker 1: of a family drama sense. And that's what I really
Speaker 1: liked about it was that it felt like the words
Speaker 1: like I love you, but I can't stomach you, Like
Speaker 1: they're still connected and I mean there she is, like
Speaker 1: still connected to it in her own way, and like
Speaker 1: I just you get the sense that it's ongoing in
Speaker 1: a dramatic sense, but in a way where I'm good
Speaker 1: to not watch.
Speaker 3: I mean, I totally agree. I think that's the whole
Speaker 3: thing of the show is that it's this it's this
Speaker 3: group of people who are locked into torture because they
Speaker 3: are family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's like conclusion, but not finality is I
Speaker 1: would say this conclusion to the story, but there's like
Speaker 1: this very dark ellipses that is on their lives now.
Speaker 1: And I remember, like a few days ago, I read
Speaker 1: an article where Jeremy Strong was like, which was very
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong. He was like, you know, I did a
Speaker 1: take where I, as Kendall, wanted to jump in the
Speaker 1: water because I felt he'd want to kill himself in
Speaker 1: that moment, and you know, they had to stop me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, right, and that's why that's why
Speaker 1: we don't have Jenna Ortego writing Wednesday. This is why
Speaker 1: we don't have Jeremy Strong writing succession because it really
Speaker 1: was supposed to end the way it was supposed to
Speaker 1: end without you jumping in the water.
Speaker 2: But I guess happy we got the take.
Speaker 1: Would love to see the deleted scene of Jeremy stung
Speaker 1: trying to like jump in the water, and they'll like,
Speaker 1: you know, second ad being like Jeremy, Jeremy, No, Jeremy right.
Speaker 2: Right, you gotta love him.
Speaker 3: We needed one more from him, this man, and I
Speaker 3: let me just just make clear once again, this man
Speaker 3: is iconic. Oh please. And there was a lot of
Speaker 3: pickup from that story I shared. Yeah about the bathroom
Speaker 3: mm hmm, it is all in and we met everywhere
Speaker 3: we said it was ridiculous. It was so perfect. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is this man's process. And guess what, it works.
Speaker 3: That's all that matters.
Speaker 1: It worked better than anything else we've ever seen. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't change a thing. Love that. Roman's last moment is
Speaker 3: he's back at the bar, like where we found him
Speaker 3: in season one, like the first scene. It's like he
Speaker 3: is fully well. I my interpretation of the moments we
Speaker 3: leave all these three siblings on is that like with
Speaker 3: the exception of Shiv, I guess well, no, with Ship,
Speaker 3: it's like these three people don't know what to do
Speaker 3: without this motivating force. It's the perfect ending on this
Speaker 3: because it's like this the whole like race is over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you end with like Kendall like staring out into
Speaker 3: the water because I think for him it's done. Like
Speaker 3: he he does not know what to do. He was
Speaker 3: built for this and now that this is finally taken
Speaker 3: away from him and he's like, I don't sow his
Speaker 3: existence is like meaningless. Yeah, so sad, I think the
Speaker 3: turn works for Shiv, especially when right before her it's
Speaker 3: Roman being like yeah, I'm sure whatever whatever, Like there's
Speaker 3: a moment of hedging you see, like a moment of
Speaker 3: him being like I don't know, like his you know,
Speaker 3: his stitches, and.
Speaker 1: She's like, I actually have a final move here to
Speaker 1: be the power player and it is down.
Speaker 3: I don't think the turn is unearned at all. No
Speaker 3: me neither, especially with the Roman think after that crazy
Speaker 3: hug scene, Yeah, that was insane, Like I think it
Speaker 3: was a perfect finale, and you can't say that for
Speaker 3: a lot of HBO shows, Like people still are arguing
Speaker 3: about the Sopranos thing. Now you know, it'same of Thrones,
Speaker 3: all of it all, and so like Six.
Speaker 2: Feet Under, it was the closest thing to perfection when it.
Speaker 3: Was I never saw it, Oh I know, I got.
Speaker 1: That finale was see yeah, I mean in an almost
Speaker 1: opposite way of Succession, because it actually did that thing,
Speaker 1: and it sort of like I guess, you know, not
Speaker 1: created the thing, but like perfected the thing of like
Speaker 1: we are seeing into the future into the ends of
Speaker 1: their lives, because that was the show literally about death
Speaker 1: and about you know, that idea of closure or lack,
Speaker 1: and so basically like that was the perfect ending for
Speaker 1: that show, was to jump into the future and see
Speaker 1: the great expanse.
Speaker 2: Of what that life was.
Speaker 1: Where As Succession, what it was saying was like these
Speaker 1: people wanted so desperately to be more than their situation
Speaker 1: and be more than this, but they're not. They are
Speaker 1: not serious people, as he said in that second episode,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like ultimately they
Speaker 1: were defined by their station in life and it made
Speaker 1: them miserable. So that is the I guess, like satire
Speaker 1: of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I will miss the show a great deal, you know,
Speaker 3: and it.
Speaker 1: Makes me sad, Like the whole state of television right now,
Speaker 1: it does make me sad because it's like so many
Speaker 1: things are ending that were so formative and have ended.
Speaker 1: It's like, are we creating new things? Are we creating
Speaker 1: new art? Like that is like this anymore? I mean
Speaker 1: like it really does feel not to be like Moreau
Speaker 1: or like.
Speaker 3: Uh, what's the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fatalist about the state of television and
Speaker 1: a state of art in general, in the state of cinema.
Speaker 1: But like you now, I saw Fast X and it's
Speaker 1: just like, is this what this is?
Speaker 2: Is this what this is?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I'm excited to see Spider Verse. Oh yes,
Speaker 3: but that's the thing of like it is, like it's
Speaker 3: a franchise. It's like, yeah, but at least there's like
Speaker 3: a really inspiring level of like innovation there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it just seems like everyone's as an end
Speaker 3: by everyone. We just mean like the people who like
Speaker 3: decide these things is just even more and more risk averse,
Speaker 3: which is by the way, like in terms of looking
Speaker 3: at things that have worked in the past and trying
Speaker 3: to predict and extrapolate into the future in terms of
Speaker 3: what it's greenlight. It's like that is something that AI
Speaker 3: can do. Taylor Thomlinson did a whole thing about this, like, yes,
Speaker 3: their jobs are the replaceable ones. Yeah, not the writers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's literally the easiest thing in the world to do,
Speaker 2: to just regurgitate, which actually brings me to I don't
Speaker 2: think so honey for me anyway.
Speaker 3: Okaya, do we have one more thing to discuss in
Speaker 3: the list?
Speaker 2: I could do it as my I don't think so honey,
Speaker 2: and that could be the jumping off point.
Speaker 3: I love it, okay, because it isn't I don't think
Speaker 3: so honey for me. Okay, I love it.
Speaker 1: So this is I don't think so honey people, And
Speaker 1: this is of course our woman segment where we just
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, have to drag and read and
Speaker 1: absolutely demolish things in pop culture that are bothering us.
Speaker 1: And I have to say, the third graders are getting
Speaker 1: into it this month, later in the month, and I
Speaker 1: am ready to start the conversation.
Speaker 3: You know what, can I promise you something as a friend,
Speaker 3: promise me I'm gonna get caught up on Mornings show.
Speaker 3: You have to and we are going to be able
Speaker 3: to talk about this and have a dialogue.
Speaker 1: Bowen, I think it's your favorite show that you don't know.
Speaker 1: I believe it is your favorite show yet.
Speaker 3: I don't mean but.
Speaker 2: That's of course a whole different conversation than them. We're
Speaker 2: about to be again.
Speaker 3: This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so money his
Speaker 3: time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so hrn Samantha coming back too, And
Speaker 1: just like that season two, I'm sorry, but it feels
Speaker 1: so stupid to tell us it's definitely not happening.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not happening. It's definitely not happening.
Speaker 1: And then now I don't think, so honey, that we
Speaker 1: know actually exactly how it's happening. I don't think, so honey,
Speaker 1: that these these people are hell bent on telling us
Speaker 1: every single thing that happens. And just like that season two,
Speaker 1: like we fully know about Aiden, stop teasing us in
Speaker 1: the trailer we've all seen online that they like pretty
Speaker 1: much end up together or at least go on like
Speaker 1: a goddamn vacation together. I don't think, so honey, that
Speaker 1: we know that where is tension? Where is the idea
Speaker 1: of surprise? We literally know Samantha is coming back and
Speaker 1: she's gonna have one scene and it's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the phone. So now what, Yeah, I guess quote unquote
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna watch now.
Speaker 2: But I don't think so, honey. Was it struggling in.
Speaker 1: The first place? What is this? Is sex in the
Speaker 1: city now just a meme generator? Is that what we're
Speaker 1: fully committing to now Bowen is nodding, And if that's
Speaker 1: the case, then I guess I think so, honey.
Speaker 3: Third graders go all the way off. But I don't
Speaker 3: think so, honey, me.
Speaker 2: Who loves sexing this city in the beginning?
Speaker 3: That's one minute. I could not agree with you more.
Speaker 3: I mean, is sets in the City just meme generator? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I remember talking to Cynthia Nixon. We didn't
Speaker 3: actors out of actress together, lovely experience love her. I
Speaker 3: brought up in a way that like was you know,
Speaker 3: not like totally honest, but I was like, I hope
Speaker 3: you guys know that the discourse is a compliment, which
Speaker 3: is what you and I have said.
Speaker 1: Well, I do think it's a compliment until it gets
Speaker 1: to a certain place where where I think it's approaching.
Speaker 3: Right, and so then and what she had to say was,
Speaker 3: you know, like Michael Patrick King the whole time when
Speaker 3: all like the Chad yet like you know, after Big
Speaker 3: dies and after all the chade moments, was like, Nope,
Speaker 3: this is great. After all of us were like, God,
Speaker 3: what's happening? Like people are really dunking on this, right,
Speaker 3: he was like, Nope, this is great. We have one
Speaker 3: water cooler moment after another and after another and after another.
Speaker 3: And in a way, I feel like the danger there
Speaker 3: is that the people who make the show are now
Speaker 3: motivated by those water cooler mobe exclusively, and so they
Speaker 3: want us to be talking about the Samantha thing as
Speaker 3: if it's like like that cheapens the experience of watching
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: Why would you keep it so she filmed this in March,
Speaker 1: why would you keep it a secret for all pr rollout? Yes,
Speaker 1: And I completely understand that, but it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you would never have told us that Big died
Speaker 1: in the premiere of season one, right, right, but you
Speaker 1: would tell us that Samantha is returning when the number
Speaker 1: one water cooler conversation about the show is will she
Speaker 1: or will she not return? And in what capacity? So
Speaker 1: by the same argument, like, should you have told us
Speaker 1: that Big was gonna die? Like, I guess we quote
Speaker 1: unquote all would have watched. And some people are saying
Speaker 1: that because there's a conversation about the quality of and
Speaker 1: just like that not being up to snuff with sex
Speaker 1: and the city, that there was going to be a
Speaker 1: drop off, and so they had to do things like
Speaker 1: that or this, like in terms of revealing the plot elements.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think that's true. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that if you watched the entirety of it,
Speaker 1: just like that season one, and you are someone who
Speaker 1: participates in culture and the consumption of culture in the
Speaker 1: way this is and this is the monoculture, which is
Speaker 1: I guess what we're all here for and why we
Speaker 1: have this in the first place. You're not gonna not
Speaker 1: watch this show. And if that's the case, then like
Speaker 1: maybe you do have a quality issue and you have
Speaker 1: to look at that. But you already told us that
Speaker 1: Aiden was gonna be there, So why did we need
Speaker 1: it spoiled for us that Samantha is gonna be there?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And it's also like even if you said she's coming back,
Speaker 2: then just say that don't say it's gonna be one
Speaker 2: scene in the finale and it's not with the other characters.
Speaker 3: She did not interact with any of her castmates, didn't
Speaker 3: interact with Michael Patrick King, Patricia Field came back for
Speaker 3: one scene.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, so it's gonna be a gag. She'll be
Speaker 2: dressed well whoa Okay, who cares?
Speaker 3: Who cares? Yeah, it's already it's not off to a
Speaker 3: great start. I mean, we'll all be watching.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, it's like we're gonna watch
Speaker 1: and that's but that's exactly my point.
Speaker 3: I totally understand we were gonna watch. It is people
Speaker 3: chasing entry into the monoculture at the expense of like
Speaker 3: an actual enjoyable experience of like consuming it.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, and you know what, wonder what was
Speaker 1: great about the monoculture or that time. It's like we
Speaker 1: could watch something and not know what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: We could watch something and enjoy it altogether and have
Speaker 1: that cathartic experience altogether. Now what you've done is you've
Speaker 1: moved that cathartic, like communal experience to like a deadline article,
Speaker 1: And that sucks a bit.
Speaker 3: Shit it's a bit shit. Beis shit. I can't do it, but.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just it was just like, wow, after
Speaker 1: all of that, you're gonna announce it in the trades
Speaker 1: in the trade now after you've also used it as like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a bait and switch all first season
Speaker 1: long about the text with her and then Carrie being
Speaker 1: in the same city as her and then meeting like
Speaker 1: agreeing to meet up, Like now you're gonna announce in
Speaker 1: the trades.
Speaker 3: It just felt really cheap to me, And.
Speaker 1: Like, this is the thing about like when you talk
Speaker 1: to Cynthia about like the discord being a compliment.
Speaker 3: The discourse was a compliment.
Speaker 1: Because it was about the wildness of chag Yeah, the
Speaker 1: craziness of these like women like changing and like not
Speaker 1: in line with what the original show was doing because
Speaker 1: it got people to talk about what was happening in
Speaker 1: the show. This is talking about the macro outside of
Speaker 1: the show, and that is not interesting.
Speaker 3: That is not interesting.
Speaker 1: It's the equivalent of when you watch a Housewives reunion
Speaker 1: and all they talk about is social media.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's not fun, it's not interesting. I kind
Speaker 3: of don't care about behavioral things. No, like about like
Speaker 3: these like real actors or these real people.
Speaker 1: If we cared, then there would be a demand for
Speaker 1: like you know, there's like no demand to hear more
Speaker 1: about the story. I think everyone's just exhausted by it.
Speaker 1: And so now to hear that, oh, she's coming back,
Speaker 1: but don't worry. The needle still hasn't moved on anything
Speaker 1: in terms of the relationships or whatever. Okay, so now
Speaker 1: it's just like you're reminding us this is not an
Speaker 1: interesting story for what to come back and do. One
Speaker 1: scene after, Kim Cattrall has expressly talked about how uncomfortable
Speaker 1: she is playing the character, like so, what are we
Speaker 1: supposed to expect that she got a huge payday and
Speaker 1: you got her or that like she has.
Speaker 2: No integrity, you know what I mean? Like, what is
Speaker 2: it that we're.
Speaker 3: Saying there's no way it's gonna be worth it? No,
Speaker 3: Like there's nobody that we watch him. We're like, ugh, that.
Speaker 2: Really she is? And thank god, I know that.
Speaker 3: Scratched something like no way, because you know for a
Speaker 3: fact that she begrudgingly came back pretty much against her will.
Speaker 3: I can't even like ethically consume it.
Speaker 1: Watch Glamorous on Netflix later in the month to see
Speaker 1: Kim Coatrol every episode.
Speaker 3: And Matt Rogers and Joel Kim Mooster in.
Speaker 1: We Are in the eighth episode the season. I did
Speaker 1: not share scenes with Kim, but Kim is Kim all
Speaker 1: over that show.
Speaker 3: Kim is in the show.
Speaker 2: She's in it in a major way every episode, even
Speaker 2: not just.
Speaker 3: One scene, She's in every every episode.
Speaker 1: But watch Sex in the City and just like that,
Speaker 1: get like get for fifty thousand times more conversation over
Speaker 1: her one scene than her entire performance in Glamorous. Like
Speaker 1: it's like, I hope not, but you know, it's just so,
Speaker 1: you know what, start a new monoculture glamorous.
Speaker 3: Glamorous, Make glamorous part of the monomae.
Speaker 2: Make glamorous part of the monoculture.
Speaker 1: It's rural culture number nine, Make glamorous part of the monoculture.
Speaker 1: And then in ten years when Kim returns to the
Speaker 1: Glamorous reboot, I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2: That it's one scene. No should be an old woman.
Speaker 3: Imagine her saying this about him, Zane Phillips. I just
Speaker 3: wish you were nicer. I just wish you were nicer.
Speaker 1: I just wish you were nicer, and then she tags
Speaker 1: Zaye on Instagram and say, hey, at Zane Phillips, leave me.
Speaker 3: Alone, do not wish me well? Give them good troll. Okay,
Speaker 3: shout out to Zaye, shout out to say we love you,
Speaker 3: Love you boy, love you, love you, love you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is your I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: This is your sort of big moment on the episodes
Speaker 1: of Dragon Rea and are you excited? I'm excited, all right,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, saying if you died tomorrow, well,
Speaker 3: let's hope. I don't you know when people are like,
Speaker 3: if you die tomorrow, oh my god, I bet you
Speaker 3: like this is the picture that would like make me happy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say someone said this to me recently. I
Speaker 3: might have even been my sister yan Yang. I love
Speaker 3: you so much, but why center a picture of us
Speaker 3: at Disney World? And she was like, if you die tomorrow,
Speaker 3: I remember you buy this phote out and go huh
Speaker 3: huh yeah yeah thirty seconds. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to die.
Speaker 3: And this is not this is not an attack on
Speaker 3: my sister. Oh, this is just people. Why do people
Speaker 3: say that? Why is that like a phrase in the
Speaker 3: culture and the English language? If you die tomorrow, I
Speaker 3: really hope. I don't. Should I be worried? Do you
Speaker 3: know something? I don't? Doctor? Doctor five seconds? If you
Speaker 3: ever say to me if you die tomorrow, I will
Speaker 3: say that's not appropriate.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, that I'll ever say this
Speaker 2: to you. And that's one minute on you, and I
Speaker 2: would say this, what are the great tragedies of my life?
Speaker 2: One day will be your dad.
Speaker 3: No, it will be you die before me. I hope.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at you in the eyes and saying,
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: The way the universe is working, I think for both
Speaker 3: of us is that you will not have to suffer sadness.
Speaker 3: You will not have to suffer that.
Speaker 2: I can't do grief.
Speaker 3: Can I say I can't do it?
Speaker 2: I cannot do it.
Speaker 3: If this is how I act after, like, oh, oh
Speaker 3: my god, don't even get some other.
Speaker 2: Things in my life, I can't be doing grief. I
Speaker 2: have to go first. And I'm really apologized, and I
Speaker 2: understand this is like a morbid thing to even get into.
Speaker 2: And I don't even like getting into it, but I
Speaker 2: have to go first.
Speaker 1: All my acquaintances, friends, even my enemies. No, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say anyone to go. I'd like to go first, please,
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal. And then y'all have a
Speaker 1: renaissance concert for my funeral.
Speaker 3: Do the matt Rogers eras do the Matt rod Oh oh,
Speaker 3: that'll be a great show. That will be a joyful show.
Speaker 3: Literally after work one day, we're sitting around. Someone asks
Speaker 3: where do you think we go when we and then
Speaker 3: we literally go around the circle and then like the
Speaker 3: conversation shifts too. Someone was like, this is a really
Speaker 3: wild question, but I'm so curious to know. They were like,
Speaker 3: have you been in the presence of someone when they passed,
Speaker 3: like at someone's bedside, and it was three of us.
Speaker 3: Two of them were like yes, oh my gosh, And
Speaker 3: I was like and then it made me realize. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm sorry, I have nothing to contribute to this,
Speaker 3: and that's okay. It's not something I've experienced and one
Speaker 3: day I will. One day I might. And I'm right
Speaker 3: there with you, my sister.
Speaker 2: You're gonna watch me fire.
Speaker 3: God. I hope we die at the same time, because
Speaker 3: I literally can't do grief because I'm in my depression
Speaker 3: era and you are pulling me out of it every moment.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, but I cannot experience true loss. If
Speaker 3: my sister goes, I'm done, If my parents go I'm done.
Speaker 2: I don't want it. I don't I'd rather not.
Speaker 3: I'd rather not. And again, Yang, if you're listening, I
Speaker 3: know you are. That was not I don't think Sony
Speaker 3: about you. It was just you said that, and I
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, here's the t We're actually both in
Speaker 2: depression era.
Speaker 1: Your girl, this podcaster is also newly medicated and I'm
Speaker 1: loving it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the fact is it's hard. It's difficult to
Speaker 2: live sometimes.
Speaker 3: And you need Even if Taylor's Hood concert or Beyonce
Speaker 3: won't be the panacea, it's sisterhood.
Speaker 1: And you cut off my sisterhood. You cut off my
Speaker 1: life support period starring Queen Latifa.
Speaker 3: Yes, is that is that the movie you interviewed her on?
Speaker 1: So I interviewed her years ago about Secret Life would
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite stories ever is that I
Speaker 1: was eighteen years old. I was writing for the NYU
Speaker 1: newspaper and I was doing the film features and film
Speaker 1: Revie and I got to see the Secret Life of
Speaker 1: Bees early and then in part of a group, I
Speaker 1: got to interview Gina Prince Bythewood, Sophia Canado, and Queen Latifa,
Speaker 1: and I sort of flopped on Gina and Sophie just
Speaker 1: because I was nervous and like, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't know how. It wasn't nice to you, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: She wasn't nice.
Speaker 1: It was Another interviewer was like, he cut you off,
Speaker 1: So do you want to answer that question again? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I wasn't. Kind of I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to, but it was a flop. So que Latifa
Speaker 1: comes in and she's luminous, she's super star, she is
Speaker 1: platinum blonde hair, it's everything she's in her Secret Life
Speaker 1: of Bees bad bag. So then at the end, everyone's
Speaker 1: like lining up to get their like press packet signed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everyone that's going up to her is like, I
Speaker 1: love this movie and I love you in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: love you in Chicago. I love you in Chicago. She
Speaker 1: goes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: really about to gag her a bit. So I go
Speaker 1: up to her and I say, I just want to
Speaker 1: say I loved you in Life Support. And she looked
Speaker 1: up and she looked me in the eyes and she said,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, baby, you got the baby.
Speaker 3: And I said, I know that's right. I said, I
Speaker 3: know that's right. That's you know how to connect.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm saying the AIDS movie that I genuinely love.
Speaker 3: Of course, and then she goes, this man genuinely loved
Speaker 3: the AIDS movie.
Speaker 1: She said, this gay boy watched the AIDS movie that
Speaker 1: I was in, and I'm gonna thank him and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look him in his eyes. I'm gonna swipe my
Speaker 1: platinum blonde hair out of my face in my Secret.
Speaker 2: Life of Bee's bag and call him baby.
Speaker 3: And say thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 3: I love that story so much. We end every episode
Speaker 3: with the song when You're Good, So Good.
Speaker 1: To get more of that song, Watch Chicago, starring Queen
Speaker 1: La Diva and Richard Gere, Bye Bye,