WEBVTT - LISTEN | 2022 Jets Draft Preview (4/27) 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.560 Welcome to the official podcast. We are presented by Win Bett. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.360 Betty is a team sport Butt Together. It went by 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.960 Eric Ellen in the studio, joined by a familiar face 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.680 that is Legit Douzable my partner and crying throughout the 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.480 regular season. It's been too long? How are you deuced? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.360 It's been forever. I thought you forgot about me, man 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.080 and heard from me. You know what I'm saying that 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.200 all seasons here you don't know me anymore. Oh, it's 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.000 all love, dudes, I know what. I'm just messing with you. Man. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:35.879 It's good. It's good to see you again. Man, it's 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.760 been it's been a while. What combine was the last 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.479 time we saw you, I believe? Yeah, like two ships 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.400 passing in a night. Uh, speaking of the Combine, Man, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:50.239 you work as hard as anybody in terms of your analysis. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:55.720 Some former players just rely on their past experiences, but 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.240 you're always in the film room. What's it been like 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.560 for you professionally as far as getting ready for this draft? 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.600 I was just talking about this to somebody the other 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.720 day and I just don't remember the draft taking this long? Now? 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.920 Is it because I've been more invested in it this year? Right? 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.840 Because I was at the Singer Bowl, I was at 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.880 the Combine, and this is the first time in my career. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.520 Why I went to both of those events, right, So 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.480 it seems like it's it's just been ages since the Combine. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.119 It seems like it's been ages since the Singer Bowl, 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.200 And I think that is kind of I want to 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.280 say it's it's worn on me, but it's just like 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.720 I can't remember even when I was playing at the 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.440 drop off from like the Combine to Draft day was 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.720 this long. So it's just it's been a long process. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.280 But we're here. He I can't complaining. We are finally here. Um, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.560 the Jets to pivotal picks and top ten and four 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.920 in the top forty. So um, it's a good day 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.160 to be a Jet man. O. Hey, no doubt about 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.880 a great transition man, A prose prol what's the best 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.240 case scenario for the Jets at the top of the 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.600 draft the way you're viewing it right now, because I 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:07.440 don't remember a top three with as much uncertainty as 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:12.560 we're facing now in recent time. Yeah, and you said 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.000 it perfectly right there, e A. I think the Jets 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.680 are in the tricky spot because if you're a top 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.040 two team picking, you kind of get what you want, 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.480 kind of get what you had your eyes at out on. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.360 If you're picking seven through ten, the board has been laid, 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.040 the foundation has been laid for you, so you know 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.200 where you're going from there. But when you're picking that 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.200 four to six range, it's a if he placed to 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.160 be and am not even gonna lie because the draft board, 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.920 as you said, right, this is the first time in 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.880 recent years that the draft board we don't know how 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.240 it's gonna fall at one, two or three. I think 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.639 a month or two ago everybody was certain that Aidan 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.120 Hudgerson would be the number one overall pick. But it 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.240 seems like Trayvon Walker has picked up some steam. And 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.400 so I mean, even though in the combine people assume 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.520 that I Ki was going to be the number one pick, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.359 and then there was Evan Neil was gonna be the 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.120 number one pick. So I can't remember a draft to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.520 your point where there was this much uncertainty. So if 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.280 you're the Jets, like you know, you're sitting back and 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.840 waiting like, well, we have our draft board, right, and 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.000 every team as a draft board. If Vicky Kana, you're 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.440 Number one guy, and maybe it's followed by Aiden Hutchinson, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.359 and maybe it's came on timbodoreor Jermaine Johnson or Sauce Conner. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.360 It's just it's just a weird spot to be in 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.799 because I would just break it down like this, this 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.320 draft has no sure fire superstars, but there's really good 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.679 quality depth. There's gonna be some real good quality starters 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.799 in this draft. But the only thing is, when you're 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.440 picking in the top five, you you want game changers, right, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.440 you want guys that are, you know, foundational pieces that 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.480 you can build around. And this draft just doesn't have that. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.240 So if you're the Jets and you're sitting at the 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.760 draft board in the top four, it just depends on 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.280 how the first three picks fall. And that's why I 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.080 say it's a really tricky spot to be in. But 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.720 if you're Joe d how are you hoping that board falls? 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.000 Getting back to the best case scenario, because imagine Walker 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.240 and Hutchinson before, it seems likely that they will be 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.640 two of the top three picks, but we don't know 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.640 at this point of course, what are you hoping for? 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.920 If you're Joe d Well, honestly, you're open at Aidan 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.080 Hutchinson falls the because you can take him in the 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.760 r V. He's the most pro ready defensive end in 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.280 this draft, and I think Jermaine Johnson is right behind him, 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.440 and I think Jermaine has a little bit higher upside 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.520 because he just learned how to pass us this last 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.119 year with Aidan Hutcherson is kind of like a finished product, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.960 you know what you're gonna get. He's gonna come in 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.520 probably be an eight to ten SAC guy, and people 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.159 kind of snub their nose at that. But I'm like, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.520 there's not a lot of players in the NFL constantly 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.600 doing that. You're in the year out and I believe 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.240 Aidan Hutchinson will do that. But I mean the chances 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.239 of him falling before are I would say, literally slim 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:45.560 to none. Right, Okay, right Johnson, Right, you You've got 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.479 very vocal about that. Yeah. So, I mean, and it 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.120 seems like he's picking up steam now, which is crazy. Right. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.880 I've been talking about this guy since before the Singer Bowl, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.000 and you know, during the Singing Bowl I said he 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.279 wouldn't get out of the pick twenty, Like, I don't 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.520 think he'd make it the twenty. Now I don't know 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.920 if he makes it to pick ten. Honestly, um, just 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.080 because he's aced every part of the draft process, you know, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.880 just from transferring. I mean just his background story, right, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.280 and you talk about the adversity he's went through, going 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.720 to junior college, then going to Georgia, then playing at 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.320 Georgia where we saw that how deep the Georgia defense was. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.919 He decided to bet on himself, leave go to a 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.120 team for one year in Florida State, and all he 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.120 did was become the a SEC defensive player of the 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.440 year in that time, right, And people are saying, well, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.240 he didn't do this at Georgia. Well, if you look 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.720 at all the players at Georgia and the defensive alignment 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.840 more specifically, they all didn't have guddy numbers because they 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.440 rotate so often. Because that defense and more specifically that 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.599 defensive line is so deep that guys usually only stay 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.480 on the field for four to five play. So I 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.680 think Jemaine Johnson showed that he could leave a team 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.600 where he was playing about thirty percent of the snaps, 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.080 go to another team and uptick to sixty plus percent 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.080 of the snaps. So now you're not you're not worried 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.400 about durability, and you see the effort that he plays 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.000 with efforts never gonna be an issue with this guy. Again, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.599 he's just coming into his own as a pass rusher. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.200 Put on a pass rush display at the Singer Bowl. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.159 I think he just fits the mantra of all gastel brakes. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.600 I think it's a guy that Joe d and you know, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.640 Robert Solo really would like to have. But I think 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.680 they would like to have him more at ten than 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.720 at four. I just don't think he lasts till pick 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.640 number ten. Yeah, and that's what you're talking about with 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.560 that tricky situation. Now. I wanted to ask you the 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.560 way you view it though, if you stay it for 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.000 is it offensive linement or edge rusher? Because I wanted 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.640 to get your thoughts on Sauce Gardner, who most people 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:35.000 have a top their cornerback boards. Uh Stingley is a 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.320 very good player. He's just been a little bit banged 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.080 up and we'll have to see what happens. A lot 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.479 of people think that that that that that guy could 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.880 be a star though. You know, but with that being said, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.440 do you see it as old a lineman or edge 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.080 at four? Yeah? So I'll break it down like this 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.960 and then going into your dB conversation, you could reteam 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.040 me up and we'll talk about that. UM. To me, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.640 I think it with Joe d and just knowing how 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.360 he's he's wired and how he's done past draft, it's 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.000 gonna be best player available now if Ikey Kandu is there, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.960 I think Jody doesn't care what everybody's saying in that 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.160 world room, He's gonna turn that card in for Ikey 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.400 Kuanu because if he has him as his number one 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.320 overall player. UM. Granted, you know there's uncertainty, what what 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.040 what would happen technically with George fan or McKay Beckton. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.560 George Fannons going into the last year off his deal, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.200 McKay Beckton has had the injuries. UM. I just think 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.480 it's hard pressed for a GM to give up on 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.040 his number one pick from two years ago, a top 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.200 ten pick at that UM. But if I Quanner is 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.600 there and the way that Joe Deeve preaches always building 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.119 in the trenches right especially offensive line, the defensive line, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.480 I'm talking about getting great value. If if he's your 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.040 number one over our player, you get him at four, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.440 that's admits value and you just have to figure out 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.280 what to do with your offensive line later. Right, you 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.200 have a trade ship now and either McKay Beckton or 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.640 George Fann going into their last year. There's the deal. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.080 Because I Kandu. If you take him at the number 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.320 four spot, he's gonna start from day one, and more 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.120 specifically probably at right tackle. Um. He's a guy that 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.920 can play right guard, left guard, right tackle, left tackle, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.320 played all of it at NC State. So I think 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.480 if he's there that they're gonna run, run to the 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.880 podium and take him. The only time they wouldn't run 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.040 to the podium is if Aidan Hudgerson was able to 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.880 fall to four. And I just don't foresee that happening. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.360 And so there's the dudes. Lean here a couple of 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.720 minutes into the podcast, ikey a Kwanu out of NC State. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.120 Wouldn't that be something? Now if you go quanto at 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.320 four and well, let's retreat a little bit and talk 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.560 about the cornerback Sauce Gardner nine career interceptions, never gave 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.800 up a touchdown during college. He plays with spice on 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.320 the outside, he can win on third down. Was playing 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.920 man press coverage. We mentioned stingtly before banged up at Alice. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:52.360 You after a productive, ultra productive freshman year where you 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.520 could have predicted that this guy was gonna be a 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.720 first round pick a couple of games into his college. Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:04.600 So with that being said, Sauce Gardener, while you like 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.960 him as a player, four might be too high for you. Yeah. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.840 I think any corner or safety or any secondary. Remember, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.240 I just don't see the Jets, just knowing the brash 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.720 No One coach slo and his philosophy on defense, I 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.280 don't foresee them taking the corner in the top ten 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.520 or in the first round, honestly, period. If you just 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.440 look at the history of this defense, going back to 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.559 Gus Bradley, going back to coach Quinn, you know when 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.760 he left and went to Atlanta, they don't take corners 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.200 specifically high in this draft. If you look at it 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.560 um in San Francisco when Robert Salo was there, they 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.040 were able to get a guy like Richard Servant towards 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.920 the back end of his career, right, they were able 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.000 to fill take a filler on a guy like Jason Barette. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.360 They got Kawan Williams, who was an undrafted free agent, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.959 but They got him from the Browns right, Emanuel Moseley, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.679 undrafted free agent. That's how they He just built this team. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.360 It's always been built from the front back right, because 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.640 this defense is predicated off the defensive line creating having 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.079 So even though Sauce Garner I love him, he's a 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.320 great prospect, right, you talked to about all the attributes. Right, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.920 hasn't given up a touchdown in his college career. A 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.040 guy who likes to be on the island and man press. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.880 So I think he's better suited to go to the 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.880 Giants Acrosstown team to a Wink Martindale scheme where he's 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.160 gonna blitz and keep his corners on the island. We're 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.560 in this defense. On first and second down, we're gonna 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.760 be a little bit more zone happy, right, We're gonna 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.120 be more cover three, Cover two. Then on third down 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.319 we're gonna blitz and go man. So that's where he 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.000 would flourish. I think Stingley would actually be a better 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.920 fit because he's shown better in zone coverages as far 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.240 as his an aptitude and as far as knowing what 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.760 you know receiving receiving routes are coming, which uh combination 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.959 routes are coming and knowing how to attack certain zone coverages, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.440 and he's he's probably a better guy as far as 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.440 taking the ball when it's in the air, especially going 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.280 up and getting it at a high point. The thing 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.560 about him is, like you talked about right e, he 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.480 hasn't been healthy. We haven't seen a healthy Derek Stingley 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.560 since twenty nineteen, and at times he looks uninterested on film. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.680 I don't know if that's because he's so talented and 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.200 doesn't take his best at times to you know, lock 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.240 people up. But there's certain scouts and talented valuays that 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.960 said that he doesn't have alpha mentality, and most top 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.760 corners have that alpha mentality. But if you get that 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.559 twenty nineteen Derek Stingley, you get the best dB in 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.679 the draft, not just the best corner, the best dB 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.760 in the draft. But that's a big gift because we 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.440 haven't seen that guy since twenty nineteen. Not going back 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.360 and watching this film from where he missed about three 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.280 games and then some of them uhe where he missed 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.600 the last nine with the Liz Frank injury. It wasn't 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.520 as bad as I originally thought it was, right, but 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.360 it just wasn't as dominant as we saw in the 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.640 twenty nineteen. He's got a great feel for the game, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.400 natural instincts. You know, some people would say is Stingley's 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:44.199 boomer bus, Like this guy could be a multi time 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.480 Pro Bowl player and All Pro player and you know, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.160 or you might be getting guys a little bit banged 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.960 up here early in his career. And we'll see what happens. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.439 All right, So at ten, give me like three players. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.079 If the Jets stay there, you have your eyes on, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.480 well one Jermaine Johnson, who we talked about earlier. I mean, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.319 I think the brass is praying, like on their knees, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.800 praying that he falls at ten. I just don't foresee 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.080 it happening. But you know, this is the one draft 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.200 where there's so much uncertainty. We really truly don't know 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.080 how the top three are gonna pan out. It could 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.120 go edge top three. Then what do you do. Do 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.760 you not take Jermaine at four or do you try 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.760 to still wait to get him at tend because if there, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.160 if it goes edge edge edge, I can tell you 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.480 for a certainty he's most likely not getting to pick ten. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.240 Right and then even George carl Office or somebody might 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.440 actually come in top ten behind him. Also because you 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.199 look at Seattle in Atlanta, they're looking for edge rush 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.480 as well too, and maybe even the Giants. I think 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.640 they're gonna take Sauce Conner with their second pick, but 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.960 I would say he's he's a player. I'm looking at 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.120 Jermaine Johnson if he was happened to slip to you know, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.480 number ten. Spout another guy, Jamie Jamison Williams to me 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.280 was my number one receiver in this class before the injury. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.880 He was the only receiver I felt comfortable taking in 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.480 the top ten before the injury. Now I don't have 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.960 any receipre as a top ten pick. But if you 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.480 know the medicals come back, the Jets staff, the medical 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.200 staff feels comfortable enough or they see that, you know 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.040 this guy is gonna recover a c l s aren't 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.920 what they used to be. A e A guys are 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.559 coming back quicker from those. If they feel comfortable enough 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.600 where this guys may be ready to go in October, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.240 then I think he adds an element to this team 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.480 that they need on offense. If you look at what 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:22.960 the Dests trying to do in the all season and 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.679 trading for Tyreek Hill. Jamison Williams is in that same bill, right. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.640 He puts the fear of God and men at the 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.200 safety position, right, and that helps with the run game 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.600 because you have to keep the safeties back, so now 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.040 you have a lighter box and anybody that knows this 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.760 Michael for offense, he truly wants to run the football 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.840 and then set everything up off of that. So it's 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.520 gonna help you with the run game. But it's also 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.360 gonna help you with Zach Wilson in that big arm 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.760 being able to take those shots down the field, and 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.840 that's gonna open the game up underneath for Elijah Moore, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.600 for Corey Davis, for the two tight ends Tyler Conklin 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.280 and c j Usama. So I think Jamison Williams would 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.640 be a really nice piece for the Jets. And then 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.520 the last person I would say, and I'm not a 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.120 huge fan of this one, e A, but just to 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.600 help the offense out, I'm gonna go Drake London right um. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.640 Also a guy that's a guy that's not on currently 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.160 on the roster right now with bigger frame, guy, contested 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.439 jump ball guy, really good intermediate route running sometimes that's 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.040 a really good job because he has the back the 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.240 basketball background as far as being a power forward on 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.600 on little comeback rounds of shielding that body, making it 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.120 big so the dB can't play through him, and being 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.600 able to catch the ball. So that's another element that 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.560 they just don't have a bigger receiver that can go 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.240 up and get the ball. So those would be the 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.160 three guys I would say the number ten by their 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.440 connor and play. But knowing Joe D, honestly, I would 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.120 not be surprised if they try to trade back at 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.440 that tense spot because I don't have any of those 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.920 receivers as a top ten player in the draft. It 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.240 remains there. They're not running, they're sprinting up to the 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.400 podium to turn that in, especially if they don't go 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.440 edge at number four. But if Jermaine is gone and 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.640 they go O line and before I think Joe D 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.320 is gonna do, it's best to try to trade back there. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.840 The excitement of Las Vegas to on line sports betting, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.280 getting on all your favorite teams, players and sports from 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.120 boostep partlays to live in game odds on every major sport. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.360 They have what you need to win sign up today 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.840 to receive a special offer risk free one thousand down 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.840 the sports bet download the wind Beat up now or 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.360 visit w y n and bet dot com to start 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.280 winning winn bet and the official sports book. 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You talked about Drake London. The 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.160 Jets have capital to trade for an established veteran. They 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.960 attempted the trade for Tyree Hill as you punch. We 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.280 know for a fact Deebo Samuel has said that he 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.760 wants to be traded. John Lynch the forty Niners, GM 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:13.960 says he can't ever imagine moving Deebo Samuel. So I 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.400 just want to ask you two things. If you're Joe 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.960 d do you make the call to check in with 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:26.720 John Lynch? And part B of that would be okay. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.320 If he's ever willing to listen to an offer, what 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.800 would you offer, uh, if you chose to go in 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.600 that direction. Yeah, yeah. I love it when GMS or 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.040 personnel come out and say I couldn't imagine ever, you know, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 trading this player away until they heir offer. They love 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.160 right essentially, especially if a player is this gruntal and 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.080 has really put his foot in the ground and said, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.520 I'm not playing for you guys anymore. So make this 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.479 trade happen. That way, we can you know, leave amicably. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.200 You can get some draft capital and I can go 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.760 where I want to go and get paid. And we've seen, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.600 you know, over over the years. You know, unfortunately it 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.840 happened to I say unfortunately, but maybe fortunately it happened 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.280 with the Jets and Jamal Adams. He wanted out, They 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.200 ended up having the trade and they got great value 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.240 back phone. We saw what to rekill. Like I believe 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.600 the Christian Kirk deal made him. I would say expendable, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.679 but it made it where the price tag was so 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.159 you know crazy that Kansas City was like, well, we 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.920 can't pay him. We're paying Patrick Mahomes. So they decided 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.919 to let him go get a trade. Davante Adams the 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.400 same thing, right, he wanted his he wanted his way out. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.080 He wanted to get back closer to home, get with 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.360 his best friend Derek Carr, and forced his way out. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.959 So we kind of see a power shift, right, kind 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.960 of like the NBA where players have kind of been 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.159 able to force they were at their way out, and 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.119 it's been unique to watch. I love it as an 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.680 ex player, but just knowing the owners and how they think, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.840 I don't know how much locker it's gonna last. Right, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.159 So it's John Lynch and the brass in San Francisco 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.360 willing to really, like, you know, put their foot down 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:53.720 and be like, well, you're gonna play for us, and 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.600 you're not playing for anybody. With a young quarterback going 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.040 into year two that you traded so much draft capital 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.919 way for, he's already come out and say, Jimmy Garoppolo, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.840 that's potentially we keep him. I think that's because if 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.399 you do lose a Deebo, Samuel, you need a Ventuan quarterback. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.280 You can't just throw trade Lands out there into that 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.439 fire with no surefire, you know, star power on the 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.720 outside to get him, you know, for him to get 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.359 the ball to to make plays. So I just think 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.040 that people will say, you know, the front Niners have 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.600 the ball in their court. I just think they're up 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.359 against time, honestly, because if Deebo is dead set or 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.760 not being there, We've seen it time and time again. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.280 Stars in this league will force their way out. Now. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.320 I almost certainly believe that Joe d is already checked 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.400 in with the San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, the Deaths 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:38.920 are one of the few teams that have the draft 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.160 capital in the cash bad cap space to take him. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.480 To answer your second part e, A, what would I 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.200 be willing to give give up to get debo? Um, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.160