1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official podcast. We are presented by Win Bett. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Betty is a team sport Butt Together. It went by 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Eric Ellen in the studio, joined by a familiar face 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: that is Legit Douzable my partner and crying throughout the 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: regular season. It's been too long? How are you deuced? 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: It's been forever. I thought you forgot about me, man 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: and heard from me. You know what I'm saying that 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: all seasons here you don't know me anymore. Oh, it's 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: all love, dudes, I know what. I'm just messing with you. Man. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: It's good. It's good to see you again. Man, it's 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: been it's been a while. What combine was the last 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: time we saw you, I believe? Yeah, like two ships 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: passing in a night. Uh, speaking of the Combine, Man, 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: you work as hard as anybody in terms of your analysis. 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Some former players just rely on their past experiences, but 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: you're always in the film room. What's it been like 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: for you professionally as far as getting ready for this draft? 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: I was just talking about this to somebody the other 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: day and I just don't remember the draft taking this long? Now? 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Is it because I've been more invested in it this year? Right? 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Because I was at the Singer Bowl, I was at 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the Combine, and this is the first time in my career. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Why I went to both of those events, right, So 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: it seems like it's it's just been ages since the Combine. 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: It seems like it's been ages since the Singer Bowl, 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: And I think that is kind of I want to 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: say it's it's worn on me, but it's just like 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember even when I was playing at the 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: drop off from like the Combine to Draft day was 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: this long. So it's just it's been a long process. 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: But we're here. He I can't complaining. We are finally here. Um, 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: the Jets to pivotal picks and top ten and four 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: in the top forty. So um, it's a good day 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: to be a Jet man. O. Hey, no doubt about 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: a great transition man, A prose prol what's the best 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: case scenario for the Jets at the top of the 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: draft the way you're viewing it right now, because I 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: don't remember a top three with as much uncertainty as 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: we're facing now in recent time. Yeah, and you said 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: it perfectly right there, e A. I think the Jets 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: are in the tricky spot because if you're a top 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: two team picking, you kind of get what you want, 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of get what you had your eyes at out on. 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: If you're picking seven through ten, the board has been laid, 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: the foundation has been laid for you, so you know 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: where you're going from there. But when you're picking that 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: four to six range, it's a if he placed to 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: be and am not even gonna lie because the draft board, 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: as you said, right, this is the first time in 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: recent years that the draft board we don't know how 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna fall at one, two or three. I think 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: a month or two ago everybody was certain that Aidan 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Hudgerson would be the number one overall pick. But it 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: seems like Trayvon Walker has picked up some steam. And 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: so I mean, even though in the combine people assume 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: that I Ki was going to be the number one pick, 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: and then there was Evan Neil was gonna be the 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: number one pick. So I can't remember a draft to 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: your point where there was this much uncertainty. So if 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: you're the Jets, like you know, you're sitting back and 61 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: waiting like, well, we have our draft board, right, and 62 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: every team as a draft board. If Vicky Kana, you're 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Number one guy, and maybe it's followed by Aiden Hutchinson, 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: and maybe it's came on timbodoreor Jermaine Johnson or Sauce Conner. 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a weird spot to be in 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: because I would just break it down like this, this 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: draft has no sure fire superstars, but there's really good 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: quality depth. There's gonna be some real good quality starters 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: in this draft. But the only thing is, when you're 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: picking in the top five, you you want game changers, right, 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: you want guys that are, you know, foundational pieces that 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: you can build around. And this draft just doesn't have that. 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: So if you're the Jets and you're sitting at the 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: draft board in the top four, it just depends on 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: how the first three picks fall. And that's why I 76 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: say it's a really tricky spot to be in. But 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: if you're Joe d how are you hoping that board falls? 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Getting back to the best case scenario, because imagine Walker 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: and Hutchinson before, it seems likely that they will be 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: two of the top three picks, but we don't know 81 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: at this point of course, what are you hoping for? 82 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: If you're Joe d Well, honestly, you're open at Aidan 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Hutchinson falls the because you can take him in the 84 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: r V. He's the most pro ready defensive end in 85 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: this draft, and I think Jermaine Johnson is right behind him, 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: and I think Jermaine has a little bit higher upside 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: because he just learned how to pass us this last 88 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: year with Aidan Hutcherson is kind of like a finished product, 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. He's gonna come in 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: probably be an eight to ten SAC guy, and people 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: kind of snub their nose at that. But I'm like, 92 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of players in the NFL constantly 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: doing that. You're in the year out and I believe 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson will do that. But I mean the chances 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: of him falling before are I would say, literally slim 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: to none. Right, Okay, right Johnson, Right, you You've got 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: very vocal about that. Yeah. So, I mean, and it 98 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: seems like he's picking up steam now, which is crazy. Right. 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I've been talking about this guy since before the Singer Bowl, 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: and you know, during the Singing Bowl I said he 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't get out of the pick twenty, Like, I don't 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: think he'd make it the twenty. Now I don't know 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: if he makes it to pick ten. Honestly, um, just 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: because he's aced every part of the draft process, you know, 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: just from transferring. I mean just his background story, right, 106 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: and you talk about the adversity he's went through, going 107 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: to junior college, then going to Georgia, then playing at 108 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Georgia where we saw that how deep the Georgia defense was. 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: He decided to bet on himself, leave go to a 110 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: team for one year in Florida State, and all he 111 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: did was become the a SEC defensive player of the 112 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: year in that time, right, And people are saying, well, 113 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: he didn't do this at Georgia. Well, if you look 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: at all the players at Georgia and the defensive alignment 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: more specifically, they all didn't have guddy numbers because they 116 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: rotate so often. Because that defense and more specifically that 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: defensive line is so deep that guys usually only stay 118 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: on the field for four to five play. So I 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: think Jemaine Johnson showed that he could leave a team 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: where he was playing about thirty percent of the snaps, 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: go to another team and uptick to sixty plus percent 122 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: of the snaps. So now you're not you're not worried 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: about durability, and you see the effort that he plays 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: with efforts never gonna be an issue with this guy. Again, 125 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: he's just coming into his own as a pass rusher. 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Put on a pass rush display at the Singer Bowl. 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: I think he just fits the mantra of all gastel brakes. 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a guy that Joe d and you know, 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Robert Solo really would like to have. But I think 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: they would like to have him more at ten than 131 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: at four. I just don't think he lasts till pick 132 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: number ten. Yeah, and that's what you're talking about with 133 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: that tricky situation. Now. I wanted to ask you the 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: way you view it though, if you stay it for 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: is it offensive linement or edge rusher? Because I wanted 136 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on Sauce Gardner, who most people 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: have a top their cornerback boards. Uh Stingley is a 138 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: very good player. He's just been a little bit banged 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: up and we'll have to see what happens. A lot 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: of people think that that that that that guy could 141 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: be a star though. You know, but with that being said, 142 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: do you see it as old a lineman or edge 143 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: at four? Yeah? So I'll break it down like this 144 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: and then going into your dB conversation, you could reteam 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: me up and we'll talk about that. UM. To me, 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I think it with Joe d and just knowing how 147 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: he's he's wired and how he's done past draft, it's 148 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna be best player available now if Ikey Kandu is there, 149 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: I think Jody doesn't care what everybody's saying in that 150 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: world room, He's gonna turn that card in for Ikey 151 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Kuanu because if he has him as his number one 152 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: overall player. UM. Granted, you know there's uncertainty, what what 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: what would happen technically with George fan or McKay Beckton. 154 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: George Fannons going into the last year off his deal, 155 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton has had the injuries. UM. I just think 156 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it's hard pressed for a GM to give up on 157 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: his number one pick from two years ago, a top 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: ten pick at that UM. But if I Quanner is 159 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: there and the way that Joe Deeve preaches always building 160 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: in the trenches right especially offensive line, the defensive line, 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about getting great value. If if he's your 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: number one over our player, you get him at four, 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: that's admits value and you just have to figure out 164 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: what to do with your offensive line later. Right, you 165 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: have a trade ship now and either McKay Beckton or 166 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: George Fann going into their last year. There's the deal. 167 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Because I Kandu. If you take him at the number 168 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: four spot, he's gonna start from day one, and more 169 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: specifically probably at right tackle. Um. He's a guy that 170 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: can play right guard, left guard, right tackle, left tackle, 171 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: played all of it at NC State. So I think 172 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: if he's there that they're gonna run, run to the 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: podium and take him. The only time they wouldn't run 174 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: to the podium is if Aidan Hudgerson was able to 175 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: fall to four. And I just don't foresee that happening. 176 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: And so there's the dudes. Lean here a couple of 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: minutes into the podcast, ikey a Kwanu out of NC State. 178 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be something? Now if you go quanto at 179 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: four and well, let's retreat a little bit and talk 180 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: about the cornerback Sauce Gardner nine career interceptions, never gave 181 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: up a touchdown during college. He plays with spice on 182 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: the outside, he can win on third down. Was playing 183 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: man press coverage. We mentioned stingtly before banged up at Alice. 184 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: You after a productive, ultra productive freshman year where you 185 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: could have predicted that this guy was gonna be a 186 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: first round pick a couple of games into his college. Yeah. Yeah. 187 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: So with that being said, Sauce Gardener, while you like 188 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: him as a player, four might be too high for you. Yeah. 189 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: I think any corner or safety or any secondary. Remember, 190 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I just don't see the Jets, just knowing the brash 191 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: No One coach slo and his philosophy on defense, I 192 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: don't foresee them taking the corner in the top ten 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: or in the first round, honestly, period. If you just 194 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: look at the history of this defense, going back to 195 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, going back to coach Quinn, you know when 196 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: he left and went to Atlanta, they don't take corners 197 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: specifically high in this draft. If you look at it 198 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: um in San Francisco when Robert Salo was there, they 199 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: were able to get a guy like Richard Servant towards 200 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the back end of his career, right, they were able 201 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: to fill take a filler on a guy like Jason Barette. 202 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: They got Kawan Williams, who was an undrafted free agent, 203 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: but They got him from the Browns right, Emanuel Moseley, 204 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. That's how they He just built this team. 205 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: It's always been built from the front back right, because 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: this defense is predicated off the defensive line creating having 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: So even though Sauce Garner I love him, he's a 208 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: great prospect, right, you talked to about all the attributes. Right, 209 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: hasn't given up a touchdown in his college career. A 210 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: guy who likes to be on the island and man press. 211 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: So I think he's better suited to go to the 212 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Giants Acrosstown team to a Wink Martindale scheme where he's 213 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna blitz and keep his corners on the island. We're 214 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: in this defense. On first and second down, we're gonna 215 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit more zone happy, right, We're gonna 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: be more cover three, Cover two. Then on third down 217 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna blitz and go man. So that's where he 218 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: would flourish. I think Stingley would actually be a better 219 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: fit because he's shown better in zone coverages as far 220 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: as his an aptitude and as far as knowing what 221 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: you know receiving receiving routes are coming, which uh combination 222 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: routes are coming and knowing how to attack certain zone coverages, 223 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: and he's he's probably a better guy as far as 224 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: taking the ball when it's in the air, especially going 225 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: up and getting it at a high point. The thing 226 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: about him is, like you talked about right e, he 227 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: hasn't been healthy. We haven't seen a healthy Derek Stingley 228 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, and at times he looks uninterested on film. 229 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's because he's so talented and 230 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: doesn't take his best at times to you know, lock 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: people up. But there's certain scouts and talented valuays that 232 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: said that he doesn't have alpha mentality, and most top 233 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: corners have that alpha mentality. But if you get that 234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Derek Stingley, you get the best dB in 235 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: the draft, not just the best corner, the best dB 236 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: in the draft. But that's a big gift because we 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: haven't seen that guy since twenty nineteen. Not going back 238 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: and watching this film from where he missed about three 239 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: games and then some of them uhe where he missed 240 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: the last nine with the Liz Frank injury. It wasn't 241 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: as bad as I originally thought it was, right, but 242 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: it just wasn't as dominant as we saw in the 243 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. He's got a great feel for the game, 244 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: natural instincts. You know, some people would say is Stingley's 245 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: boomer bus, Like this guy could be a multi time 246 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player and All Pro player and you know, 247 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: or you might be getting guys a little bit banged 248 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: up here early in his career. And we'll see what happens. 249 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: All right, So at ten, give me like three players. 250 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: If the Jets stay there, you have your eyes on, 251 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: well one Jermaine Johnson, who we talked about earlier. I mean, 252 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: I think the brass is praying, like on their knees, 253 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: praying that he falls at ten. I just don't foresee 254 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: it happening. But you know, this is the one draft 255 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: where there's so much uncertainty. We really truly don't know 256 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: how the top three are gonna pan out. It could 257 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: go edge top three. Then what do you do. Do 258 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: you not take Jermaine at four or do you try 259 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to still wait to get him at tend because if there, 260 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: if it goes edge edge edge, I can tell you 261 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: for a certainty he's most likely not getting to pick ten. 262 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: Right and then even George carl Office or somebody might 263 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: actually come in top ten behind him. Also because you 264 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: look at Seattle in Atlanta, they're looking for edge rush 265 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: as well too, and maybe even the Giants. I think 266 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna take Sauce Conner with their second pick, but 267 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: I would say he's he's a player. I'm looking at 268 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson if he was happened to slip to you know, 269 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: number ten. Spout another guy, Jamie Jamison Williams to me 270 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: was my number one receiver in this class before the injury. 271 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: He was the only receiver I felt comfortable taking in 272 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the top ten before the injury. Now I don't have 273 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: any receipre as a top ten pick. But if you 274 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: know the medicals come back, the Jets staff, the medical 275 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: staff feels comfortable enough or they see that, you know 276 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna recover a c l s aren't 277 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: what they used to be. A e A guys are 278 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: coming back quicker from those. If they feel comfortable enough 279 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: where this guys may be ready to go in October, 280 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: then I think he adds an element to this team 281 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: that they need on offense. If you look at what 282 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: the Dests trying to do in the all season and 283 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: trading for Tyreek Hill. Jamison Williams is in that same bill, right. 284 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: He puts the fear of God and men at the 285 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: safety position, right, and that helps with the run game 286 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: because you have to keep the safeties back, so now 287 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you have a lighter box and anybody that knows this 288 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Michael for offense, he truly wants to run the football 289 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: and then set everything up off of that. So it's 290 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna help you with the run game. But it's also 291 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: gonna help you with Zach Wilson in that big arm 292 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: being able to take those shots down the field, and 293 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna open the game up underneath for Elijah Moore, 294 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: for Corey Davis, for the two tight ends Tyler Conklin 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: and c j Usama. So I think Jamison Williams would 296 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: be a really nice piece for the Jets. And then 297 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the last person I would say, and I'm not a 298 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: huge fan of this one, e A, but just to 299 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: help the offense out, I'm gonna go Drake London right um. 300 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Also a guy that's a guy that's not on currently 301 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: on the roster right now with bigger frame, guy, contested 302 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: jump ball guy, really good intermediate route running sometimes that's 303 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: a really good job because he has the back the 304 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: basketball background as far as being a power forward on 305 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: on little comeback rounds of shielding that body, making it 306 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: big so the dB can't play through him, and being 307 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: able to catch the ball. So that's another element that 308 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: they just don't have a bigger receiver that can go 309 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: up and get the ball. So those would be the 310 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: three guys I would say the number ten by their 311 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: connor and play. But knowing Joe D, honestly, I would 312 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: not be surprised if they try to trade back at 313 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: that tense spot because I don't have any of those 314 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: receivers as a top ten player in the draft. It 315 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: remains there. They're not running, they're sprinting up to the 316 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: podium to turn that in, especially if they don't go 317 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: edge at number four. But if Jermaine is gone and 318 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: they go O line and before I think Joe D 319 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: is gonna do, it's best to try to trade back there. 320 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: The excitement of Las Vegas to on line sports betting, 321 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: getting on all your favorite teams, players and sports from 322 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: boostep partlays to live in game odds on every major sport. 323 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: They have what you need to win sign up today 324 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: to receive a special offer risk free one thousand down 325 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: the sports bet download the wind Beat up now or 326 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: visit w y n and bet dot com to start 327 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: winning winn bet and the official sports book. 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This draft is all 334 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: about depth, and you talked about the lack of star 335 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: power up top, especially if the Jets are sitting there 336 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: at ten and they do have a cluster of players, 337 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: going back would be advantageous for a team that has 338 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: multiple needs. So you were talking big time. They're about receivers. 339 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: You covered Jamison Williams. You talked about Drake London. The 340 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Jets have capital to trade for an established veteran. They 341 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: attempted the trade for Tyree Hill as you punch. We 342 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: know for a fact Deebo Samuel has said that he 343 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: wants to be traded. John Lynch the forty Niners, GM 344 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: says he can't ever imagine moving Deebo Samuel. So I 345 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: just want to ask you two things. If you're Joe 346 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: d do you make the call to check in with 347 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: John Lynch? And part B of that would be okay. 348 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: If he's ever willing to listen to an offer, what 349 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: would you offer, uh, if you chose to go in 350 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: that direction. Yeah, yeah. I love it when GMS or 351 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: personnel come out and say I couldn't imagine ever, you know, 352 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: trading this player away until they heir offer. They love 353 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: right essentially, especially if a player is this gruntal and 354 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: has really put his foot in the ground and said, 355 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm not playing for you guys anymore. So make this 356 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,479 Speaker 1: trade happen. That way, we can you know, leave amicably. 357 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: You can get some draft capital and I can go 358 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: where I want to go and get paid. And we've seen, 359 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, over over the years. You know, unfortunately it 360 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: happened to I say unfortunately, but maybe fortunately it happened 361 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: with the Jets and Jamal Adams. He wanted out, They 362 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: ended up having the trade and they got great value 363 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: back phone. We saw what to rekill. Like I believe 364 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk deal made him. I would say expendable, 365 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: but it made it where the price tag was so 366 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: you know crazy that Kansas City was like, well, we 367 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: can't pay him. We're paying Patrick Mahomes. So they decided 368 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: to let him go get a trade. Davante Adams the 369 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: same thing, right, he wanted his he wanted his way out. 370 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to get back closer to home, get with 371 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: his best friend Derek Carr, and forced his way out. 372 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: So we kind of see a power shift, right, kind 373 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: of like the NBA where players have kind of been 374 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: able to force they were at their way out, and 375 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: it's been unique to watch. I love it as an 376 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: ex player, but just knowing the owners and how they think, 377 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how much locker it's gonna last. Right, 378 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: So it's John Lynch and the brass in San Francisco 379 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: willing to really, like, you know, put their foot down 380 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: and be like, well, you're gonna play for us, and 381 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: you're not playing for anybody. With a young quarterback going 382 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: into year two that you traded so much draft capital 383 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: way for, he's already come out and say, Jimmy Garoppolo, 384 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: that's potentially we keep him. I think that's because if 385 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: you do lose a Deebo, Samuel, you need a Ventuan quarterback. 386 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: You can't just throw trade Lands out there into that 387 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: fire with no surefire, you know, star power on the 388 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: outside to get him, you know, for him to get 389 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: the ball to to make plays. So I just think 390 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: that people will say, you know, the front Niners have 391 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the ball in their court. I just think they're up 392 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: against time, honestly, because if Deebo is dead set or 393 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: not being there, We've seen it time and time again. 394 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Stars in this league will force their way out. Now. 395 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: I almost certainly believe that Joe d is already checked 396 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: in with the San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, the Deaths 397 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: are one of the few teams that have the draft 398 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: capital in the cash bad cap space to take him. 399 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: To answer your second part e, A, what would I 400 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: be willing to give give up to get debo? Um, 401 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: I've heard some obnoxious things out there on Twitter LANDA like, yeah, man, 402 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: you got an interesting take. You gotta because I really 403 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: want you to get into it, because yeah, you you 404 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: gotta break down something that you hit up before war. 405 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: I'm interrupting you a little bit, but I really like 406 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: the way you've looked at this because you talk about 407 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: the offense that is predicated on the run game, and 408 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: I get into specifics about the money, which you'll get into. Yeah, 409 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: so um talking about what the Jets were willing to 410 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: give up to get tyrekall right, I believe it was 411 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: the two second round picks. Was the thirty five, third, eight, 412 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: sixty nine picks. I think they were receiving a fourth 413 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: round pick back right, So essentially it's almost kind of 414 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: like a wash. It's like two second round picks essentially, 415 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: because you're getting Tyreek Hill and you're getting a fourth 416 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: round pick back. Um, Tyreek Hills are all pro. Right, 417 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: he's been doing it since. Believe he's twenty nine years old, 418 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: but again still puts the fear of God and in 419 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the defensive corners, coordinators, and safeties. So Deebo Samuel, right, 420 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: if you look at his career, had a pretty good 421 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: rookie season, banged up his second year, didn't play a 422 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: lot uh, and had an elite year last year. So 423 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not paying what I was paying for 424 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: Tarik Yell for Deebo Samuel one. He is twenty six 425 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: years old and that's still young, but way he plays 426 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: the game and the injury history he's had going back 427 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: even to college. That would make me fearful of paying 428 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: a guy twenty eight meal, which essentially he's kind of 429 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: asking for because there was rumors he wanted to be 430 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: the highest non paid quarterback, highest paid non quarterback in 431 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. So you're looking at somewhere upwards to eight 432 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, And I just went, I mean, 433 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: so I'm trading away the number ten pick, which I 434 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: know Joe d that's not even on the table. That's 435 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: ridiculous to even think about. Um. But not only trading 436 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: that away, but also having to pay a guy twenty 437 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: five million that has any injury history. Now, Granted, I 438 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: love Deebo. I love the mentality he brings. He literally 439 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: was carrying that San Francisco offense last year throughout the 440 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: playoffs because that defense was was stifling other teams. But 441 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: they really weren't doing too much on office until Deebo 442 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: Samuel got Samuel got the ball in his hand. But 443 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: I just don't feel comfortable giving up draft capitable of 444 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: a top ten pick for a player that's not as 445 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: good as a Tyreek Kill who's probably a number three 446 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: or four receiver in the NFL. UM Deebo Samuels is 447 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: a really good piece on offense. You know, they call 448 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: him wide back, play receiver and running back as well. Year. 449 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't understand that at all either, because 450 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: Eliza Mitchell was playing well in games. I believe I 451 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: did the research on this, and while I was breaking 452 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: down film last year, I want to say in games 453 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: that he rushed for over ninety yards, I think they 454 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: were like seven and one or eight and one. So 455 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: I don't understand how he wasn't the bell count. Now 456 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: he got banged up a few games. I think he 457 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: only played twelve games last year, not including the playoffs. 458 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: But like any time he was in there and they 459 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: fed him the ball, good things happened for them, right, 460 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: And then it actually helped Deebo, you know, with with 461 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: some of you know, him getting open and Kyle Shanahan 462 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: finding unique ways to get him the ball in open space. Um, 463 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, he kind of became their main back down 464 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the stretch. And I didn't get that because I thought 465 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: Elijah More was really their bell cow and and carried 466 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: them a lot of a lot of games. Like you 467 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: didn't see it on the satsue, but he would have 468 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: like twenty something carries a game and average close to 469 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: four yards and all those games where they were winning games. So, um, 470 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: I get why Debo doesn't want to be, you know, 471 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: technically a white back. There's a lot of wear and 472 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: tearing a guy, especially with the injury history that he has. 473 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: But that's what makes him unique also, right, That's also 474 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: one of his selling points in negotiations that I do 475 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: this at running back, I do this that receiver, you 476 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: get the balls to me in space. I'm a yat king. Like. 477 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I believe he's one of the top guys in yat 478 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: yardage in the NFL. So I mean to me him 479 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: saying he doesn't want to do that. Now, Granted he 480 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: was on a good trajectory before week eleven when they 481 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: started giving them more carriages in the backfield. Um, I still, 482 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: I still believe you had one over fourteen hundred yards receiving, 483 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: which is still very elite. Right. But I just think 484 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: what makes him so unique is the mentality and how 485 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: tough he plays. Right, he plays like a defensive player 486 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, that so so. So to answer your 487 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: question when I would come out, yeah yeah, uh like 488 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't I couldn't give them to choose because essentially 489 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: that's what Tireko was going for. I would say a 490 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: second and the third I would feel comfortable giving up 491 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: because again, you're not just giving up the draft capital. 492 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: You have to pay a guy, you know, top two 493 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: or three receiver of money right now when you trade 494 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: for him. So I mean, you're not just giving up 495 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: the jack capital. You gotta give up. That's that's the thing. 496 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not apples to apples, because when you 497 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: do bring a guy in, you know, potentially we're guessing here, 498 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: we're hypothesizing that, hey, this guy wants more money, all right. 499 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of times when people are unhappy in 500 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: a certain place, it's more than just the way they're 501 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: using me. It might come down to financial money money. So, dudes, 502 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: straight up, do you think Samuel is moved draft weekend? 503 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: Or you think they sit tight and try to work 504 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: something out. I'm not talking I'm not even talking about 505 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: the Jets, I'm talking about the whole league in anybody. Yeah, 506 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: I think if it doesn't happen this weekend, it's gonna 507 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: be tough for San Fran to do it, right, because 508 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: now everybody's called your bluff and now, like you said, 509 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: you wanted you know, this pick or that pick for 510 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. Now you're talking about picks, right, So our 511 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: team is willing to give up a top tier pick 512 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: in the future for Deebo Samuel. Maybe maybe not. But 513 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: once your bluff has been called and you you haven't 514 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: been able to trade him, then his market value is 515 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: not as great, okay, because teams to feel those knees 516 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: via the draft. Now, again, there's no certified superstars in 517 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: this draft, but if we look at it as a whole, right, 518 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: all the players that are I want to say this 519 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: scron because I was a player, All these players that 520 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: aren't happy with their current contract situation is a better 521 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: political way to say it. Most of those guys were 522 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: drafted in the second or third round. They weren't first 523 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: round picks Deebo Samuel, DK metcalf A, J Brown, Terry 524 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: mccorin which the third round pick. So there's great value 525 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: in getting a guy in the second or third a round, 526 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: especially in this receiver class. This is a deep receiver class. Again, 527 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be no surefire exit ex receivers, which 528 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: is the number one receiver coming out Day one. There's 529 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: no Jamaar Chases, right, there's no Julios, there's no a j. Green's. 530 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be some good number two receivers that 531 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: have potential to maybe elevate themselves into a number one. 532 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: So if a team decided to take a guy in 533 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: the second round, maybe he could be the next Devo, 534 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he could be the next d K, Maybe he 535 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: could be the next you know, Terry mcclaurin. So I 536 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: think teams are looking at it that way. So I 537 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: think San Francisco John Lynch can say, and I love 538 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: John Lynch. I spent my last year in San Francisco. 539 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: I love him and Cole. He could say all he 540 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: wants about he don't foresee them traded. If Debo doesn't 541 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: want to be there, and he's ready to really sit 542 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: down and hold out, then you're up against the eight 543 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: bol because again, you got a young quarterback that you 544 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: traded away a lot of draft capital for and you 545 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: gotta get him some help weapons. So if Dee deebo 546 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: holds out and Trey Linz doesn't have him on the outside, 547 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: you better, you better, damn. I'm sure I have somebody 548 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: that can feel that void or at nobody gonna be 549 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: in San Francisco in a couple of years. Yeah, you 550 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: can understand both sides of the coin and both sides 551 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: of the ledger. If you're a receiver or you are 552 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: any players outperformed where you were drafted and you're a 553 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: couple of years into the league, you're looking at the 554 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: money being thrown around and said, hey, where is mine? 555 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: But you also get it from a team's perspective by saying, hey, 556 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: you're under contract. You're under contract for us for a 557 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: couple more years. We don't have incentive to do this. 558 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: So it's just an interesting dynamic that not just the 559 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: forty niners have to work through a lot of teams. 560 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: And you mentioned those various receivers. That's why a lot 561 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: of these receivers remain in our headlines every day because 562 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: we're wondering what's the next move? Are they going to 563 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: sign a contract? Potentially will guys still be on the 564 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: move here up until the draft? Win? 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Okay, before we get to 579 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: some exciting news about you, real quick, how would you 580 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: rate the Jets needs in order as you head to 581 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: the draft their needs? This is a good question, man. 582 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I've gotten this question a lot on Twitter, and my 583 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: my list might surprise people, but I think these are 584 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: underlying lists. So I think one obviously is EDG rush right, 585 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: And honestly, the way I've heard Joe d talk the 586 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: last couple of days, it seems like he's really banking 587 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: on Carl lost In being a hundred percent healthy when 588 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: the season starts, right and they've added you know, Jacob 589 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: Martin in the off season from the Texans. Who's gonna 590 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: help on special teams and help on third down pass rush? 591 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers will be able to kick inside more 592 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: on third downs as a pass for US specialist. Uh, 593 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: everybody's saying that he could move inside right away on 594 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: first and second down. You guys were tripping. They paid 595 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: him money to play on the outside. The defense was 596 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: terrible last year, but if John Franklin Myers was playing 597 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: inside would have been even worse. So John frank and 598 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Meyers stifles tight ends in the run game. We saw 599 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: that versus Tennessee Titans, we saw versus Houston Texans. Like, 600 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: he's there, big end in this position in this defensive scheme. 601 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: I played that position. You gotta have a bigger end 602 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: to really set that edge in this defense, right, So 603 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: John Flanking Myers was gonna be on the outside. I 604 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: think it's a situation where Robert Sale would like to 605 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: have what he had in San Francisco. They paid the 606 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: year Dfour the year before Bosa, same situation, Carl Lawson, 607 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: they and they both end up getting hurt. Then they 608 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: draft a guy like a Jermaine Johnson or Nick Bosa, 609 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: like they did in San Francisco. They were able to 610 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: bring d Ford along slowly. He didn't have to take 611 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: all the reps right away. He was able to be 612 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: a third down specialist and then sub let Eric Armstead 613 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: and also Nick Boso on some on some reps on 614 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: first and second down. I think that's the situation that 615 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, Robert Sale would love to have if he's 616 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: able to get a guy like a Dreama and Johnson 617 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: or even an in later on. If carl Aston is 618 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: a hundred percent healthy, he stays in on first and 619 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: second down, being able to sublet him with a Hono 620 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: v Katie or Boy Mafe maybe in the second round. 621 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: So I think defensive then is the first one. Second 622 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: one is safety. Now I know the Jets have signed 623 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: a ton, I mean eric a ton of safeties. This 624 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: aw Sason. I mean talking about Will Parks coming back 625 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: and signing him with la Marcus Joiner signing back. I 626 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: think Elijah Riley got tendered, uh exclusive rights center came back. Also, 627 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Jason Pennock is gonna be there. Aston Davis is gonna 628 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: be there. Um Marcel Harris from Florida Forts has experienced 629 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: at safety and linebacker. But I think he'll be more 630 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: of a linebacker in the Jets game. I just think 631 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: they need to pair somebody with Jordan's whitehead, right. A 632 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: guy like Lewis seemed to me if he falls to 633 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: his second round, it's a match made in heaven. Guy 634 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: has great range. Literally plays at the speed that he 635 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: ran into Combine at the sub four four and hits 636 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: people at that speed. Like when he hits people, they 637 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: go back at four sub four four speed. Uh a, 638 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: And it's the guy that has good range. Now the 639 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: secondary coach is gonna have the table in some of 640 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: his aggression, right, because there's a lot of interceptions he 641 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: left on the field because he was going for the 642 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: big hit. But to me, he has the biggest upside 643 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: at the safety position in this draft. I think he 644 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: can end up being the best safety in this draft. 645 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: When it's all set and done. Um yeah, you like 646 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the second you like? The value of the second tier 647 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: safeties in the draft goes, Yeah, it goes beyond scene, 648 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: And to me, I think the second tier value and 649 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: they say second tier, but honestly, I put Louis Scene 650 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of right there with uh well, Kyle Hamilton's right, 651 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that far of a drop off 652 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: from Kyle him, and he's definitely more athletic than him. 653 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Guys like Jalen pet guy like Jakwan Bursker, guy like 654 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: Dax Hill, Um, these guys have great value in the 655 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: second round. Like Dax Hill is more of a you know, 656 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: a nickel guy. He can play in the slot that 657 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: the Jets kind of already have too many nickels if 658 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: you ask me. D J. Reid has nickel experience, but 659 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: will be on the outside. You know, Michael Carter, Javlyn 660 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Gidrey have have nickel experience. Brendon Echo has nickel experience. 661 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: I think the Jets was set at the nickel spots. 662 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: So Daks Hill, even though he can play deep middle safety, 663 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: he made his way in Michigan by playing in the 664 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: slot and taking away the slot receiver, so I think 665 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: he's more of a slot guy. Same thing with Jalen Petrie. 666 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: I think Jakuan Bursker to me is a really good 667 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: all around good safety, a guy that can play in 668 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: the box. The guy can play in the meet, middle, 669 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: deep half of of the field. He's just an all 670 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: around good player. Just turn on that was constentate from 671 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: last year. He was the best player on that field. 672 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, there's great value in 673 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: that second tier at the safety position, with guys like 674 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie, Um Jaquan Burskert lewis seen who may not 675 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: even make it out of the first round. I've been 676 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: told some teams really like him, Dax Hill. There's there's 677 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: great value in that second tier right there. Yeah. So 678 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: see you're ranking edge first and then safety. Even though 679 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: the Jets have strength and numbers right now, you'd like 680 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: to see somebody else in for the Green and White. 681 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: The value might match perfectly for them at the top 682 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: of the second round. Yeah, and then I would have 683 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: to go receiver, right And I only say that because 684 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I think, uh, they'll take a look at safety in 685 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: the second round. I think they'll take a look at 686 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: receiver in the second round, depending how the draft board 687 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: falls out. And I think there's great value. Like we 688 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: talked about earlier eight, there's no receiver coming in from 689 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Day one that's gonna be out of this rookie class 690 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a X receiver, a true number one receiver. 691 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: So there's great value in that second round. We just 692 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: spoke about the receivers that are up for contracts. Right, 693 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: all of them were in second and third round. Terry mcclaurin, 694 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf Debo, Samuel's A J. Brown. These were second 695 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and third round picks. So a guy like Jalen Torbert 696 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: or a guy like you know, Christian Watson from North 697 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: Dakota State, there's great value in getting those guys in 698 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: the second round. These are bigger receivers, or even a 699 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: guy like George Piggins who had Uh who had some 700 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: injuries that Georgia, but came back for the National Championship 701 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: and look good and really killed the combin. I think 702 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: he ran a lot faster than most people. Dottie would 703 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: has sure hands as a contested fifty jump guy, and 704 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Uh it's also a really good intermediate route runners. So 705 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: I think there's great value and the guy like Jalen 706 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: tober Uh, Kristen Watson, or even George Piggins getting them 707 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: in the second round. Yeah, I got my eyes on 708 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: Johan Dotson ode Penn State. I don't know, but but 709 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: but they all can't go in the first round either. 710 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: So to your point, there's could be some quality pass 711 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: catchers there at the top of the second Okay, So 712 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: it's to add to that point. I think receiver is 713 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: the one position that's coming into the league more ready 714 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: than any other position. So I think teams value and 715 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: understand that. And again, we just talked about the second 716 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: and third round receivers up for contracts next year that 717 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: they're holding out right now. So I think if you 718 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: look at that as a whole, like we can get 719 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: a guy in the second round, he could be our 720 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: number two receiver and maybe elevate itself up to a 721 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: number one after year two or year three. Okay, I 722 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: love it. It was great catching off with you. What's 723 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: going on with you professionally? Man? It seems like every 724 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: time we pop up, dude has got something else working. Uh. 725 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with I Am Athlete Tonight. Yeah, just announced it. Uh, 726 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: I think it was Monday yesterday, Yeah, oh, Monday that. Um. 727 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: I will be the new host of I Am Athlete 728 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: Tonight on Mad Dog Radio Serious XM Channel eighty two. 729 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: So seven to nine pm every day we will have 730 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: a show. Uh. Some of my co host will be 731 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy, pac Man Jones, Brandon Marshall, Antoine Walker, Brandon Flowers. UM. 732 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be 733 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: a real locker room field, right, It's gonna be different 734 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: from most sports shows. We'll talk sports topics, but we're 735 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna take you inside the locker room, onto the field, 736 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: inside the basketball arena onside, and into the baseball field 737 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: and really give you that interior in an in room 738 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: locker field. Um, things that you may not know or 739 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: how we feel from past experience. Because everybody that's coming 740 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: on the show as a host or cost that's played 741 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: at least ten years in their respective field. So it's 742 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a good time again. Seven to nine pm, 743 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Serious XM, Mad Dog Radio. I am Athlete tonight. Make 744 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: sure you gotta tune in. And that's every day Monday 745 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: through Friday, Monday through Friday, every day seven to nine 746 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Dude. That is big. We're excited about that. 747 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: So I'll have Serious all primed and ready to go 748 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: on the eight two in the car when we're taking 749 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: our family drives there in the early evening. Finally, what 750 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: do you got going for the draft? Yeah? Some for 751 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: the Draft. I'll be doing the draft show for s 752 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: N y UM, so I'll be there Thursday as we 753 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: kick off, you know, the draft seven to eight p m. 754 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: Pre show for the draft, and we're doing the post 755 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: show twelve the twelve thirty close out show on Sunday 756 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: for s n Y as well six pm on s 757 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: n Y six and seven closing out the draft for 758 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: the Jets and what they did or didn't do during 759 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: the draft. Also, I'll be on Good Morning Football the 760 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: two days after the draft to give us anopsis of 761 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: what I thought, what teams you know did a really 762 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 1: good job in draft and the draft, and which teams 763 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't do a good job in the draft. So Good 764 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: Morning Football. I believe it's Tuesday, March three, if I'm 765 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: not mistaken, I'll be on there Peter and everybody else 766 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: and my guys, you know, Kate and and shregs. Uh 767 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: those are those are my family that those are my 768 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: family members. Sm Y is in the same building as 769 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: they take Good Morning Football. So we're gonna have a 770 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: good time on there. Man. Man, I love it, Uh 771 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: well deserved. You put in the work. People are putting 772 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: me on various platforms all over the place. No surprise there, 773 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: I got two final ones in their rapid fire your 774 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: favorite Jets offseason addition, to date has been who Lincoln Thomlinson. Secondly, 775 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: the draft is always about the quarterback dominos. How many 776 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks going round one? Two? Dudes? Enjoy? Yeah, go ahead. 777 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Kenny Pickett and Maligue Willis. Okay, 778 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: good stuff. And it's gonna be interesting to see if 779 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: one of those, uh comment number ten because maybe a 780 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: team's looking for a quarterback and they're calling the Jets. 781 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: Who knows. We'll have to see Pitts. Keep eye on Pittsburgh, 782 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stiller. All right, buddy, great senior, Alright, appreciate the