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Speaker 1: That's right. Baker comes off as being a lot like

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Speaker 1: no question he would prefer a trade. Yeah, no question right,

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Speaker 1: Tell me, as Baker Mayfield's agent, if you know Baker

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Speaker 1: no way there's two I can see if there was

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Speaker 1: two or three women that accused him of this, but

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Speaker 1: there's twenty six different individuals who are who are finally

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Speaker 1: lossuits against him, and the NFL has done nothing about

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Speaker 1: it at all. Now you can go back to situations

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Speaker 1: where a lot of other players have been dismissed for

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Speaker 1: less than what he's doing. And a prime example is

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Speaker 1: a receiver that played I believed he played with Atlanta

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, uh, dismissed for the whole year, Calvin Ridley. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for gambling. Right, So I mean, come on, this is

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Speaker 1: this is a lot worse than that, and something has

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Speaker 1: to be done. So I'm I'm kind of pissed off

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Speaker 1: about it because Clarence, it's it's different. It's different. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: gambling is different than than this, the human side of

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Speaker 1: this um. But I get it. It seems they are

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Speaker 1: conducting an investigation. They're trying to wrap it up here.

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Speaker 1: The league has both precedent and rule of law about

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Speaker 1: gambling in its books. You really they really struggle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how are you gonna make rules about what we're looking

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Speaker 1: at with the Deshaun Watsoncause you're not supposed to do that.

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00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: But if it's personal conduct, it's personal conduct. So what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna say If one person accuses him, ask,

444
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: not a big deal. If twenty six do it, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. And I'm not saying I'm not

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Speaker 1: belittling the one person who may well be victim or innocent.

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Speaker 1: But that's what that's what you're looking at here. Um,

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00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: it's it's not a yes no question. And here's the

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Speaker 1: thing too, And I can feel for the league on

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Speaker 1: this regard. There they say, hey, they didn't do it,

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Speaker 1: you said it yourself clearance, They didn't do anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do? They he didn't play

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Speaker 1: last year there, they don't know what's going on. They think,

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Speaker 1: and I'll say this, they think about it the same

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Speaker 1: way you and I do. Yeah, dude's guilty. They think

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Speaker 1: about it like, yeah, he's guilty. What are they allowed

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Speaker 1: to do? And that's what we're seeing. They're allowed to

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Speaker 1: suspend him for a year and we'll see if it sticks.

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Speaker 1: But until they get something in the CBA that says

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Speaker 1: something different, that's what they're allowed to do. So the

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00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: League in the in the name of um labor peace

462
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: said Okay, this is as much as we can go.

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: There you go, um, but I yeah, don't say. Don't

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Speaker 1: think the League doesn't believe or is protecting him because

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Speaker 1: they don't have a problem with what he did. They do,

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Speaker 1: they do, Yeah, and that's what makes the whole thing. Yeah, sorted. Man.

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Speaker 1: When you get something like that, there should be a level,

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Speaker 1: like some egregious level where it's like, you know what

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's like, you know, I call it

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Speaker 1: what you want the guillotine. Whatever, you're done right forever,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by, no matter who it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't have that, that doesn't exist. But there should

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Speaker 1: be something where the commissioner can you're gonna sit out

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna being suspended indefinitely. Oh. I think that

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: that phrasing could be used here. I wouldn't surprise me

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00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: if it would, because there are benefits to phrasing it

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: that way for the League. And what I mean by

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00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: that is, first of all, none of these civil cases

479
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: have been heard, and they won't be heard until March

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three at the earliest, so after this current

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: season's over is only when those civil suits will be heard.

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Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two. By suspending Deshaun Watson indefinitely,

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Speaker 1: you leave it open ended. So if for some reason

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Speaker 1: he's found innocent in all twenty six cases, you can

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Speaker 1: then end the suspension and let him play in twenty

486
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Speaker 1: twenty three. If the worst of the worst is discovered

487
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: and he has found guilty, there's punitive damages, and god forbid,

488
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: there's twelve other women that show up because they too

489
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Speaker 1: have been victimized allegedly, then the indefinite suspension can just continue.

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Speaker 1: I think it lead. Being it open ended gives the

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Speaker 1: NFL options. Um, so I'm expecting suspended indefinitely. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting it though with the CBA in the in

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Speaker 1: the condition that the route that they did with Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 1: he is suspended for at least the twenty twenty two season,

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Speaker 1: then you leave it open again. And maybe when you

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Speaker 1: say at least the twenty twenty one seed, that's what

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Speaker 1: it indefinitely means. Yeah, maybe, good Bill, That's what I

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00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: think and I've said it earlier, I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: The league doesn't need these guys. I like them. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying like I don't want to be unfeeling, but

501
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: think about the National Football League as this multi billion

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Speaker 1: dollar industry that is centered around these players that are

503
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Speaker 1: paid handsomely with a code of conduct that surrounds him.

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: And we've seen I played with some of them. Yeah,

505
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: I played with some guy first ballot Hall of Famers

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Speaker 1: plus plus thir and Andre and James and you know,

507
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Marv and Bill Polian. I've been around guys like that,

508
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: and I've met and talked with guys like Tim Brown

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Munio's. This game has been around. I met

510
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Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Joe Namatha, Dan Marino is a friend of mine,

511
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown. I have said hello too.

512
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Speaker 1: The league rolls on. Those guys were great, but the

513
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: league is moving. You do not need anybody, and yet

514
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown gets like eight chances. That's right, a guy

515
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: like well, Now here's the thing too, he's well, once again,

516
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: he's a knucklehead. Yeah, once again. It's it's a problem

517
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: because the league wouldn't mind having him come back. I

518
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: mean they because if you walk off the field and

519
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: throwing your tpasito, that's different. Well, because it's some of

520
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: his off the field stuff isn't good either, That's right.

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Speaker 1: He's already he's also had some problems like this, but

522
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Speaker 1: however he took care of it. It didn't reflect on

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Speaker 1: the league, and after his antics in MetLife Stadium, the

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00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: league comes on and he's not a good Teammate's right,

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00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: That's right. So you know, that's where you get into

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00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: this when you start talking about all these different guys

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: along the years who have done this and this and

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00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: this and this, and they're all completely different. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to quantify and put your mind around us one single

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Speaker 1: policy that is going to cover all of it and

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Speaker 1: make it right. Because human beings are vastly different and

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00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: you can't put them under the same rules or you

533
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: can't punish them for different things that they do in

534
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: the same way. It doesn't make sense. So man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: if you want to wipe, wipe the slate clean, that's

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Speaker 1: what you do. Another baseball team in Cleveland change their

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00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: name to the Guardians. Browns may want to consider calling

538
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: changing their name through the Cleveland Quagmires because this is

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00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: this is a quagmire of epic proportions at a position

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00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: that the Browns have been unable to get right for

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Speaker 1: the better part of the last thirty years. I'll say

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Speaker 1: this in the context of how we're speaking about the

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Speaker 1: Browns now Baker Mayfield looks like a gem. He looks

544
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: like he looks like the Golden Child. Think about that. Right,

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Speaker 1: we have to take a break here. We do want

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Speaker 1: to remind you that our Twitter question for you today,

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Speaker 1: besides quarterback, what position group on the Bills has you

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Speaker 1: most excited for the twenty twenty two season? A number

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Speaker 1: of positions saw changes have brought in new editions. Besides quarterback,

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Speaker 1: what position group has you most excited from this Bill's

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Speaker 1: roster for the twenty twenty two season. Let us know

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00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: at eight three, five fifty one, eight five fifty two,

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00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: five fifty or hit us up on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: We're back with more here on one Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: one Bills five Chris Brown Steve to ask her with

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Speaker 1: you here on a Monday as we're about to embark

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Speaker 1: on summer. First first day of summer is tomorrow, Steve.

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00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: It's twenty the longest day of the year in terms

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00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: of daylight hours. You can't beat it. Man, It's a

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00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: favorite time here. I know that's that's the occasion when

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00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: we have old people who were like we did Friday night,

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. So I love it man, Twitter question four today,

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Speaker 1: as we look forward to summer, we also look forward

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Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty two Bills season. Besides quarterback, what

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Speaker 1: position group has you most excited for the Bills here

567
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, A lot of turnover on the roster,

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Speaker 1: a lot of new additions at a lot of new positions.

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Speaker 1: So what position group has you most excited for the

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Speaker 1: Bill twenty twenty two season? Can let us know? At

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Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty one eight to eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty the toll free number open

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Speaker 1: line for you, So give us a call if you wish,

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00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: or hit us up on the tweet sheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live and we go to the phones now and

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Speaker 1: leading us off here is Tim in north Tonawanda. What

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Speaker 1: do you got first, tim You're on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: All right. I'm definitely more interested in seeing how the

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00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: deef steps of the line comes together. Yeah, yeah, I

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00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: see it. You're gonna have Phillips and Jones on first

581
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Speaker 1: down running downs, and then Shack Fashion and Espinaza outside

582
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Speaker 1: but I'm passing downs. You're gonna have us on one side,

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Speaker 1: Von and at Oliver and Settle in the middle. They're

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Speaker 1: all off field rushers. I think it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, I'd like to see what your opinion

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Speaker 1: is about that, and I'll get off and listen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think, unquestionably Von Miller is the lynchpin upon which

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00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: the pass rushing improvements hang. But it goes a lot

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Speaker 1: deeper than that in my estimation, not only from what

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Speaker 1: he can do on the field, but him a mentor

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Speaker 1: to the younger guys. And then secondarily, I've said this

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Speaker 1: on the show before, Steve, the additions they made on

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00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: the defensive interior are vastly underrated. Do you know who

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: led this team in sacks in twenty nineteen, Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 1: with nine and a half sacks. You know who was second,

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Speaker 1: Shack Lawson with six and a half. You know who

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Speaker 1: led the team in tackles for loss, Jordan Phillips. You

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Speaker 1: know who was second, Shack Lawson. Those two guys are

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00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: back now on one year deals. You can tell me

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Speaker 1: they're not motivated. Yeah, and that's just those two. I

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Speaker 1: think Dekwon Jones might be the most underrated signing of

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Speaker 1: the entire off season. Well, here's the thing. You talk about,

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Speaker 1: Dekwon Jones and Shaq and Jordan Phillips him Settle, Settle,

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Speaker 1: they you kind of forget about them because of Vaughan,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean understandably, Vaughan is like holding if

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: they could have you know, lined up, you know, Tom

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Speaker 1: Dick and Harry and if you signed Von Miller, you're

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Speaker 1: expected to the roof goes right, So I get it,

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Speaker 1: But I'm with him. I'm with you. The defensive front,

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Speaker 1: to me, is really intriguing, and there's every reason to

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: be really optimistic about the numbers and the stats and

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00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: the and the difference they'll make in the outcome of

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Speaker 1: these games. And then you see the body composition changes.

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Speaker 1: If guys like Greg Russou and Boogie basham entering their

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Speaker 1: second season. We talked about him. Boogie I didn't know

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Speaker 1: who he was. I'm telling you, because he got a

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Speaker 1: new number. Well, right, he went from ninety six to

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Speaker 1: fifty five, and you know, he's hard to keep track

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Speaker 1: of all this, and and he's out there looking like

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Speaker 1: in a fifty five number and he's got like he's trim.

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Speaker 1: He looks trim. Yeah, And he told us, well, he

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Speaker 1: told us when he talked last week during minicamp. He said,

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Speaker 1: last year, I played around two eighty five and this

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Speaker 1: year he's playing at about two seventy two. Yeah, I

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: mean that's a that's almost a fishing difference, and it's distributed. Well, yeah,

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: it's like he just took off a fat belt. I mean, yeah,

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00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: the guys he looks, he looks different, and we ask

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do. And we asked some of his teammates,

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Speaker 1: AJ and SA among them, how does Boogie look? And

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Speaker 1: he said, he's got a twitch now, he's got the

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Speaker 1: year as a rookie. Yeah, when you drop fifteen pounds,

633
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: you're just a little bit quicker off the ball, you know,

634
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: particularly when you're stronger. Guys come into the league and

635
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: they think they're ready, They've been told they're ready, they've

636
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: been drafted a spot that tells them they're ready. So

637
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: they think what they've been doing is gonna be what

638
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: makes them successful at this level, and a percentage of

639
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: the time that's not the case, right Boogie Basham. I

640
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: think had a lot he learned last year, watched felt himself,

641
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: talk to the people who did it, talk to pros

642
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: who have done it, like von Miller and all these

643
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, these guys who have done it, watched how

644
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: they acted and did and what they did. Probably talked

645
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: to ajp Essa about how he did it in college

646
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: at two eighty five and then all of a sudden,

647
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: he's down sixty and said, huh, I think I got

648
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, And I'll say this. They are

649
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: who they are for reason, no question. And I maybe

650
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: there was a time in my life, brownie when I

651
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: could have done it. Dude, I can't drop five pounds now. Well,

652
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: you and I like food too much. I mean, these

653
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: guys and I saw it when I was playing, and

654
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: I did. I mean, I waged one hundred and forty

655
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: seven pounds of a freshman in college and I came

656
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: out of college at one hundred and eighty five and

657
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: I was the same height. So there were people who

658
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: didn't recognize me either, But that's what you got to do.

659
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: It took me five years and you you know these

660
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: guys are doing it in five months. Well, something would

661
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: tell me if you were getting paid the money these

662
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid, you'd find a way to do it. Well.

663
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I'd have worked at it, that's for sure. You give

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Speaker 1: me a shot, you know I would. I would have

665
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: given a shot. Let me try, right, just let me try.

666
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: Let me cash a few checks. Right. But it's impressive.

667
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: And I know they're not alone. I mean, every team

668
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: in the league has guys who have who have come

669
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: to the realization that they got to change what they

670
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: do and become something different than what they have been.

671
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: And they want to hang around, right exactly how how

672
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: important to them? To them? Is it? Um? That comes

673
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: down to? And I'll say this, that's why they you know,

674
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: you hear about these interviews they do with these guys,

675
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know what people out there, right, I

676
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: don't know what people out there in the in the

677
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: regular public think about those interviews or what they talk

678
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: about it. And you've seen some of the stuff on

679
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: ESPN where the quarterbacks get in there, they sit down

680
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: and they've draw up a play, say can you do it?

681
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Or can you respond to and you can you call

682
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: to it or whatever? Yeah? Okay, Um, the simple fact

683
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: the matter is these guys or just they interview these

684
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: guys in order to find out why they play football,

685
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: and it sounds like, what do you mean why because

686
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: because they're gonna make money. Well, if they're doing it

687
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: to make money, they're not the guy. Yep, they're the guy.

688
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: When they ask Josh Allen why he wanted to play

689
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: quarter why he wanted to play in the NFL, what

690
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: he says, I want to be one of the best

691
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the game while I'm playing wherever. I want

692
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: to be one of the best guys out there that is.

693
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Speaker 1: That's where you want the guy because it's a never

694
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: ending quest to be the best. You want that from

695
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: every place. I just want to be the best guy

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00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: at my position that there is. I'm gonna strive to

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Speaker 1: be the best whatever that takes. And I don't know

698
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: what it takes. I'm young, but I when you can

699
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: find That's why they ask these guys these not football questions.

700
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: They ask them personal life questions, belief questions. You know,

701
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: they get down into it like why you know what

702
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: about your family? How did they help you? What do

703
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: they value? What's your what did you learn from them?

704
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: You know what? All that stuff, it's it goes deep

705
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: and it's all about finding out why you do what

706
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: you do. When you get guys like Boogie Basham, who's listen,

707
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't care listen, I'm cashing the checks. But let

708
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: me tell you I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna get

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00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: on the field this year. I am not sitting down.

710
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not being a healthy scratch ever this year. It's basically,

711
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: what are you willing to give when most people don't

712
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: want to give anything. That's that's really where it is.

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00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Doug in Tonawanda, What

714
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: do you got for us? Dug here on One Bill's Live.

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00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Guys, I'd say slot receiver

716
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: replace him easily. Yeah, Crowder, I said, McKenzie and then secure.

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be real interesting who comes out of that mix.

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00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: So I'll hang up for your answer, guys. Yeah, there

719
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: are three really quality candidates Mackenzie, Crowder and now Shakier

720
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: as well. Um and there's a dark horse candidate now

721
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: too and Tavon Austin. That's right. Tabon Austin came out.

722
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: He was a very high pick in the draft overall. Yeah,

723
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick for the Titans. I think yeah.

724
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: In fact, I think Jeff Fisher's staff drafted it. Yes,

725
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: but Tabon Austin came out. The reason he got drafted

726
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: so high as the guy can fly. He's very fast

727
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: and watching him out here the last two weeks. I

728
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: know he's thirty one years old, but okay, I still

729
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: got some juice in those in those pipes that he

730
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: can scoot. So that'll be he's that's an interesting dark horse.

731
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: That may be one of those guys that you see,

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, be a surprise. But we heard, but we

733
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: heard Isaiah Mackenzie say last week when he spoke to

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00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: the media, my role in this offense is bigger than

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00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: it has been. So does that mean he's it's his

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00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: job to lose in the slot or is Crowder going

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00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: to unseat him with an unusual amount steve of year

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Speaker 1: over year production. Here's here's the question. We don't know

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Speaker 1: from what Mackenzie said. Yeah, is my role gonna be

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00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: expanded or is the slot receiver gonna betrand? When he said,

741
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: my role has expanded. Did he mean slot receiver? We

742
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: don't know yet. Yeah, um, yeah, that's the question, and

743
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 1: that you know, we'll find out. We'll find out, because

744
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, they could he be going out there and

745
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: they could be talking a lot, and it could be

746
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: that they're thinking, hey, guys, we're going to do a

747
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: lot of this this year. We're gonna have you two

748
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: slot guys on the field all the time. And unfortunately

749
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: the time and unfortunately for Shakier, he missed a good

750
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: portion of OTAs because of an injury. He was sidelined

751
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: with an injury and did not get probably the number

752
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: of reps he certainly wanted to to make an impression.

753
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: So hopefully he's healthy and ready to roll for training camp.

754
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: He did participate in mini camp, but he lost some

755
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: valuable time on the field at a position that's going

756
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: to be filled with competition. As Doug pointed out, we

757
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: have to take a break here. More of your phone

758
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: calls next in terms of besides the quarterback, what position

759
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: group as you most excited for the Bills twenty twenty

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00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: two season. Can let us know at eight fifty we're

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00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: back with more of your phone calls next here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Colloid of Health, It's Buffalo

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00:43:49,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One of Bills Live.

764
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, talking to you about

765
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: the Bills position group that as you're most excited for

766
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. Besides quarterback. We know everybody's

767
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: gaga for Josh, but give us another position group that

768
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: as you pumped for the twenty twenty two season, and

769
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: tell us why eight oh three oh five fifty the

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Speaker 1: number to get on board and we go to the

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Speaker 1: phones now, and leading us off this segment is John

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00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: and Leroy. What do you got for us? John? All right, guys,

773
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Well to that particular question, I don't see how you

774
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: couldn't be excited about a lot of position groups out

775
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: of that team. I'm real excited about the wide receivers,

776
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: the defensive line that you guys have already covered. Offensive

777
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: line I'm excited about, But the running backs is what

778
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm really wanting to see what this James Cook brings

779
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: to the team, because I really aren't anticipate is going

780
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: to be doing as much running as as you know,

781
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of like the way they used Isaiah the Kensie.

782
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: I just want to see what they're going to do

783
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: with and so I'd say probably the running back group

784
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: for me. The other thing I wanted to mention Steve

785
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: was saying that there isn't like a real good policy

786
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: that covers all these different transgressions by some of these players.

787
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Wasn't there at one time behavior detriment to the league

788
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing that they could act on and the

789
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Personal Conduct Policy Yeah, yeah, I know wouldn't cover a

790
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of those. Yeah, you'd think The problem is not

791
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: not really labeling it like either the Personal Conduct Policy

792
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: or conduct detrimental to the league. The problem is implementing

793
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, criteria for each specific but

794
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: completely different transgression. If the transgression covers these areas, the

795
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: penalty is A. If the transgression covers these areas, the

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00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: penalty is B. I think Steve was looking for a

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00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: more black and white punishment table, if you will, than

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00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: anything else, and he's right, that's um. Believe me, they're

799
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: the league, would I think kind of welcome some clarity

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00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: on what they're allowed to do and and some freedom

801
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: because the Players Association officers who wants to keep the

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00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: the penalties and the suspensions at a minimum for even

803
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: the worst transgressions. But the league, like I said, and

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00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be my philosophy if I was

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00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: an executive with the NFL, they would be absolutely draconian.

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: So you know these guys would straighten up and fly

807
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: right or else. That's it. Um, the league doesn't need

808
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: a black guy from you. We're gonna be just fine

809
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: with or without you. And you better. You know, you

810
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: gotta remember that. I don't care who it would be,

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00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: so that's where I would come down on it. But

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00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: you know that you gotta be and I don't. I

813
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: don't have a problem being fair either. So um, the

814
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: problem is none of this has proven and this the

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00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: NFL isn't a court of law, and they are not

816
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: bound nor or um required to do anything as an industry.

817
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: But you know they've because of their public their public presence,

818
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: they got to do something. And that's it. So you

819
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: can say what you want about it. I mean, nobody

820
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: gets out of bed in the morning wondering why IBM

821
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: has still got this donkey working for him. You know,

822
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: nobody cares about Microsoft and this guy, or nobody cares

823
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: about Xon or you name the name, the company, but

824
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: they care about the NFL. So that's why the NFL

825
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: is a little bit as a disadvantage when this kind

826
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: of stuff happens. Yeah, interesting that he mentioned the running

827
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: back group. I was curious as to when it would

828
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: come up, because I think you could say, through the

829
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: course of this offseason post draft, the most talked about

830
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: player on this roster by the media and by players

831
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: on the roster was James Cook. Mitch Morse had the

832
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: most glowing comments on him that I've heard since Josh

833
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: Allen burst onto the scene. I mean, when you hear

834
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: veteran players on the roster say this guy's gonna help

835
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: us sooner rather than later, that's validation to the umteenth degree,

836
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: especially for rookie. So, yeah, the running back position is

837
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. I think we all anticipated to

838
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: still be very much a committee approach. I think most

839
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: people expect Singletary to be the first guy on the field,

840
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: but if this kid puts together a good camp, he's

841
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna be second. Yeah, all right, And I think the

842
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: one thing that Cook brings to the table, and let's

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Speaker 1: face it, the running back position. Despite the close of

844
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Speaker 1: the season, m Devin Singletary had last year where he

845
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Speaker 1: kind of emerged as a bell cow and drafting two

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Speaker 1: guys in the last two years with Zach Moss and

847
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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, and then bringing through some some pretty some

848
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Speaker 1: some guys with some chops at the running back spot

849
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Speaker 1: to help out and can provide competition. Cook gives you

850
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Speaker 1: the idea that they're gonna be different looking offensively, that

851
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Speaker 1: he's got stuff. He's gonna catch the ball out of

852
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Speaker 1: the backfield, he's gonna run rounds, he's going to split

853
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Speaker 1: out wide, he's gonna he's gonna be a weapon that

854
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Speaker 1: is more versatile and more productive and different roles than

855
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Speaker 1: Singletary or Moss were able to be because she's gonna

856
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Speaker 1: diversify the passing game from the running back position exactly.

857
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Speaker 1: And that's the way. That's what has intrigued all of us, You,

858
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Speaker 1: me and the media that has once practice and the

859
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Speaker 1: players yeah, and the players have said, yeah, the guy's

860
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Speaker 1: got some skills. Break time for us here when we

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Speaker 1: return for our number two, we're gonna be joined by

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Speaker 1: Armando Salgaro from OutKick dot Com, senior writer for them

863
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Speaker 1: covering the NFL and long time be reporter for the

864
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. We catch up with Armando next here on

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

867
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Speaker 1: over our fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

868
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: a dual role players for Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

869
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Speaker 1: not even in the straded heere of normalcy. Ah, we're

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Speaker 1: number two on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: you and happy to be joined. Now for our number two,

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Speaker 1: my senior NFL writer from OutKick Pro Football Hall of

873
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Speaker 1: Fame selector and longtime Dolphin's calumnists for the Miami Herald,

874
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Speaker 1: it is the one and only Armando Salgaro who appears

875
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Speaker 1: to be broadcasting from across the parking lot. Steve. That

876
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Speaker 1: is that high Mark Stadium behind him? I think it is.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it, but I'm pretty sure that's an

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Speaker 1: app a background, which, by the way, I want so

879
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Speaker 1: to email that to me, Armando. I want to. I

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Speaker 1: want to. I want that app with him Mark in

881
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Speaker 1: the back. Yeah. So one of the times when I visited,

882
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Speaker 1: and way back in the day when I still call

883
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Speaker 1: it Orchard Park, but whatever, I took that photo and

884
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I love that photo and so I'm using it as

885
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Speaker 1: my background. I've got others, but I thought this one

886
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: was appropriate. Fortunately for you, the weather is similar today,

887
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: so it looks pretty accurate. Steve and I have probably

888
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: been talking more than we should about the whole Deshaun

889
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Watson situation, which is turned into an utter quagmire for

890
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: the Browns, as you all too well know, and we're

891
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: trying to figure out ways in which the NFL and

892
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: I realize they don't rule on the punishment anymore. It's

893
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: a you know, it's an independent arbitrator, counselor or whatever

894
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: you want to call it. A former US district judge

895
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Sue Robinson is going to be levying the punishment. But

896
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: isn't the best way to phrase this thing? And the

897
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: way to leave them with the most options is to

898
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: suspend him indefinitely because these cases aren't going to get

899
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: hurt until March twenty twenty three, and who knows what

900
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: else comes out of the woodwork between now and then.

901
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Isn't that the safest way to suspend it and leave

902
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: it open ended? There is that And by the way,

903
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: talking about this is totally appropriate because it's only you know,

904
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: the story in the NFL the last year and a half.

905
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: But look, I'm one of those guys that, you know,

906
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: you kind of make a decision after you know all

907
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: the facts. I'm not sure that anyone knows all the

908
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: facts yet as we sit here, there's two more, you know,

909
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: lawsuits that the plaintiffs have at the very least, you know,

910
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: hinted at, and in the past when they've hinted at lawsuits,

911
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: they've actually brought them. And yet we're not there yet.

912
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: So it could be up to twenty six lawsuits. We're

913
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Speaker 1: at twenty four right now. Whatever the NFL does, it

914
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: runs right now. Anyway, it runs the risk of having

915
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: to look back and something new comes out, potentially something

916
00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: more damning, potentially something that is you know, obviously um

917
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: beneficial to Deshaun Watson. And if the NFL has gone

918
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: ahead and made a ruling one way or the other,

919
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: it stands to look bad. Indefinite suspension as uh, that's yeah,

920
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: that's the easy way out, and it's the it's kind

921
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: of the cowardly way out, because, um, tell the man

922
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: at the very least how long you're gonna be out,

923
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Tell the team at the very least how long they're

924
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna be without Um their quarterback. I think that suspension

925
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: everybody pretty much thinks that that's the way to go.

926
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: But we gotta be fair. What if they were fair

927
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: enough to say, you can come back when all twenty

928
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: six lawsuits are settled seriously, that that could be a while.

929
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: That absolutely could be a while. Um. And by the way,

930
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: there are some people in the NFL who would say,

931
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: we're fine with that, and that's what the Cleveland Browns

932
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: bargained for, and too bad for them, you know, they

933
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: got themselves into this mess and whatever, Man, you gotta

934
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: roll with the punches that you got into the ring,

935
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: So now roll with some punches. Would I would? We

936
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Speaker 1: were talking about this too, because Calvin Ridley of the Falcons, he,

937
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, bet illegally and admitted to it, and they

938
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Speaker 1: told him you are suspended for at least the twenty

939
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: twenty two season. I would suppose that could be another

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Speaker 1: way that it could be phrased. For Watson, you are

941
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Speaker 1: suspended for at least the twenty twenty two season, thereby

942
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: leaving themselves open to extend it if some unsavory stuff

943
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: proves to be accurate and the punitive damages are levied

944
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: against him. But I mean, I don't know when they're

945
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: really going to have more definitive information to pivot off

946
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: an initial suspension, because twenty six cases, Armando, we probably

947
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Speaker 1: are talking into twenty twenty five before all twenty six

948
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: are heard and adjudicated. Right, and by the way, going

949
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: back to the Calvin Ridley thing, as we all know,

950
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: we're talking basically here about the NFL Personal Conduct Policy,

951
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: which in its entirety is to prevent the NFL from

952
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: looking bad. It doesn't necessarily need a conviction of anything,

953
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't need an arrest. It needs to make sure

954
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: that guys and gals who work for the NFL don't

955
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: make the NFL look bad in the court of public opinion.

956
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: And if they do, there's a price to pay. Calvin

957
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: Ridley his crime was gambling on the NFL. He said

958
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: it was for fifteen hundred dollars. So if you're weighing

959
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: one of those against you know, twenty four and potentially

960
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: more women alleging sexual misconduct of various types against one

961
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Speaker 1: of the league stars, and you're weighing that against fifteen

962
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: hundred dollars Gambley, those two things are not equal. In

963
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: my mind right. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but those

964
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: two sins, those two crimes, they're not the same. And

965
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: it feels like, if you're going to weigh it like that,

966
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson should be in for a longer suspension

967
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: than what Calvin Ridley got. Yeah, and it's I've said that.

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: My feeling about it is I've seen it over the

969
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: course of the decades, Armando, you have too. When Dan

970
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: Marino retires, Jim Kelly retires, Joe Montana, you go down

971
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: the list of superstars that have retired the league, it's

972
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: not even a hiccup. The league absolutely grinds forward and

973
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: grows in the face of it. What to me, transgressions

974
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: of the nature we're talking about with Deshaun Watson and

975
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Riddley. You can throw whatever, if it doesn't matter

976
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: whether there's one hundred bucks or one hundred thousand bucks.

977
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Gambling on the game seems wrong, no question. What about

978
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: going the other way and being totally draconian with their

979
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: suspensions and putting it in paper and saying, listen, you

980
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: do this, You're done all of that stuff. And I

981
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: don't know where you draw that threshold, particularly in personal conduct.

982
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: It's not because none of them are exactly the same.

983
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: So let's you know, why not just toss these guys

984
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: right well, because the NFLPA will come to their defense

985
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: and foul grievances, it's them to court, and there is

986
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously another side, and these guys are represented

987
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: by a union, and that union will step up and say,

988
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: you can't you know, camer them for stuff you cannot prove.

989
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, stuff that for example, in the

990
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson case, two criminal grand juries decided not to

991
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: indict about. So there's there's a it's really a hard

992
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: thing for this whole thing to to to handle because

993
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: you need to be fair to everyone, and that's almost

994
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: an impossible, uh needle to thread. It's just it's just

995
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know what the NFL is going

996
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: to do. My guess is that there will be a

997
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: fairly strong suspension. But but if we then find out

998
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: that the reason that the grand juries did not indict

999
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: was because a lot of the evidence is flawed or

1000
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: proven to be untrue, that's that's that's rough. That's really rough.

1001
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: From one court of public opinion to another. The House

1002
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: Oversight Community in Washington has asked Daniel Snyder to reconsider

1003
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: his decision to not testify before them to address the

1004
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: claims of a toxic workplace environment that was misogynistic in nature.

1005
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: With the Washington commanders, we know Goodell is going to testify. Remotely,

1006
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: it looks as though they've extended that option to Snyder

1007
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: as well and said, oh, I can't do it. I'm

1008
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna be in France. I'm gonna be over here. You know,

1009
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: no can do um. His lawyer said, they'll get back

1010
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: to them. Uh, what do you think Snyder chooses to do? Ultimately?

1011
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: Number one? And then number two? How far can the

1012
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee push this thing? Right? So, normally, what

1013
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: you have in a in a saga like this is uh,

1014
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: a villain and a hero. And when you're talking about

1015
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder and politicians, you've got two villains. Um. So

1016
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: an I don't want for either of those, to be

1017
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't like either one of those

1018
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: two sides, Uh, to be very frank. Now, Uh, you know,

1019
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: let's face it, politics is agenda driven. They have an agenda. Um.

1020
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: A lot of the people on that Oversight Committee. In fact,

1021
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: that Oversight Committee is majority Democrat Daniel Snyder is a

1022
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: strong Um I was gonna say, Booster, I don't know

1023
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: what what uh, you know, contributor to the other party

1024
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: and people from the other party. So I'm sure there's

1025
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: no love loss there. Um, I would say that Daniel Snyder,

1026
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's basically right now on the three

1027
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: strike count and he's looking already at you know, the

1028
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: next pitch could be strike three. So he has to

1029
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: be very careful in what he does. And my my

1030
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: expectation is that one of those moments where you're careful

1031
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: is you don't do stupid stuff to yourself. Why would

1032
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: he offer testimony to an oversych committee if he doesn't

1033
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: have to? Um, you know, my guess is he's not

1034
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: going to if he can get away with it, right

1035
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: and the into this now Roger Goodell is going to testify,

1036
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: although remotely. What is he going to be able to

1037
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: add to these proceedings? If anything, That the NFL was

1038
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: unaware of any malfeasance or wrongdoing Number one. Number two,

1039
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: that the NFL has been fully cooperative, and that the

1040
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: NFL is very much looking at every possibility as to

1041
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: the results of whatever investigations happen. And also that the

1042
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: NFL has done all that it can to make sure

1043
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: that the hostile workplace environment allegations have been taken seriously.

1044
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell is going to protect the league and the

1045
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: league's name, right Yeah, which basically means the Wilkinson reporter

1046
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: not being released to anybody. But also he said, but

1047
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: also they can lean back and say, the league find

1048
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: him ten million dollars, took day to day running of

1049
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: the team away from him. They did take some tangible steps,

1050
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: so they can't cry ignorance to the fact that something

1051
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: was going on. And as just wondering what that would do,

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Speaker 1: knowing that there were pretty stiff penalties levied towards the

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: Washington commanders by the league. If that some of that

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: is not gonna is gonna have to come out as

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: to why they find him ten million dollars and why

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01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: they threw the guy out of the building. Well, I

1057
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: mean the league released statements as to you know, why

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: that was done and where it was let questions were left.

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: Part of the part of the agreement with witnesses was

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: not to release certain information, and so the league will

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: say we are bound by those agreements. We ask these

1062
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: people to tell us things in confidence and privately, and

1063
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: we cannot turn around once we know the information and

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: just spill our guts about it. Right, I get it.

1065
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: I do want to get into Tua and Tyreek here, Tyreek.

1066
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: I understand why he's pumping the tires onto he's got

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01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: to play with him for the better part of at

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: least the next year, maybe longer. But man, like, you

1069
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: really lose a great deal of credibility when you start

1070
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: talking about Patrick Mahomes as a subservient quarterback to TWA.

1071
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: I understand he was speaking about accuracy, and two way

1072
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: is accurate, if not nothing else, but some would argue

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: it's due mainly to the fact that most of his

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: passes don't travel more than ten yards. So I don't

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: know where did you kind of come down on this

1076
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: seeing this? I mean, I guess it's not a surprise

1077
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: that he's pumping the tires at the quarterback he's actually

1078
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: going to play with, But how did it come off

1079
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: down your way in South Florida, That's what I'm curious about. Well,

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01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: in South Florida, dolphin fans love this talk personally. I

1081
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: hear stuff like this. I hear Davante Adams say that

1082
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: his new quarterback, Derek Carr is on the same level

1083
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: plateau generally as Aaron Rodgers. And this is my reaction

1084
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: to all that talk. I don't want to hear it

1085
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: because I don't believe it. Look it's this is dog bites, man,

1086
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: and it happens every offseason. And everybody's getting better, and

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: every team has surrounded every stinky quarterback with really great

1088
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: players to make them outstanding quarterbacks. And everybody had a

1089
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: great draft, and every injured player is looking at a

1090
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: new you know regimen to stay uninjured, you know here

1091
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: coming up. And every past bust has a chip on

1092
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: his shoulder to prove all you people wrong about your

1093
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: opinion about me being a past bust. This is the

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01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: NFL offseason. People are optimistic, they are glass half full,

1095
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: and they are not having to be accountable because there

1096
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: are no games right measure the last one for me,

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: it's about some of the stories that came out of

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: the offseason where Tom Brady retired for about forty days

1099
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: and then returned from the wilderness to come back to

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. But during his time away it sounds like

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: he had a chance to become a Miami Dolphin player.

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: Part slash owner, which is which is amazingly it's an

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: amazing story because you can picture I mean, it's almost

1104
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: like a I don't want to say, like a cartoon.

1105
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: Somebody's sitting with their feet up on the desk and

1106
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: a cigar. San. Here's what we do. We throw we

1107
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: throw the check book at Sean Payton, and then we

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: make Brady a part owner and we'll get them both

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: in here and here we go. Let's do that. Um.

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01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: It really sounded like a sensationalistic way to think about

1111
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: fixing what has been wrong with the Miami Dolphins, or

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: at least getting them to the super Bowl. And oh,

1113
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: by the way, it's all true, so right that that

1114
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: story is one hundred percent true. And Sean Payton talked

1115
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: to multiple potential assistant coaches and a couple of them

1116
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: one of them told me he was looking for an apartment,

1117
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, to Red's because he was coming quote unquote

1118
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: and the Brady stuff. They've been after Brady for not

1119
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: this offseason, a couple of offseasons. So this is not

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: new and it's all true, and it's indicative of ownership

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 1: that is just desperate to win. And I get it.

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01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: It wants to think outside the box. It wants to

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: do the amazing thing. And it does sound amazing that

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: you go from you know to a Tongua byloa one

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: year and coach to be named later, to Sean Payton

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady. Uh that would that would you know,

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01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a ripple effect in the NFL.

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: But too many things happened, not the least of which

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01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: was the Brian Flores lawsuit right right and paying to

1130
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, purposely lose games allegedly. Um last one, I've

1131
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: got four Yarmando is a guy that you watched play

1132
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback position a while back at the University of Miami.

1133
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey is going to be the new OC for

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: the Bills this year, and knowing him as long as

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: you have, I'm just curious as to Ken Dorsey, the

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: player who had a ridiculous roster of talent around him

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: when he played college football, but had a very good

1138
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: ability in distributing it to all of those weapons to

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: take them to a national title. So how do you

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: think he can apply that to what is going to

1141
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: be a very talented roster around him once again, but

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01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: as a play caller, right well, Ken Dorsey, the University

1143
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: of Miami quarterback was not the most gifted athletically, but

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01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: that guy was very aggressive in how he played the

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I'm not talking about, you know, running the

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: ball and going head first into a linebacker. I'm talking

1147
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: about in the passing game. How he looked at the

1148
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: passing game, how he used it, and how he attacked defenses.

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: He wasn't your check down kind of guy. Okay, and

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: so my guess is that Ken Dorsey, the offensive play caller,

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: will be aggressive because he happens to have, you know,

1152
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: arguably the best quarterback in the NFL right now, So

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: why not go and use that? Uh. And so that's

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: that's my guess of what's going to happen with Ken Dorsey. Um,

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great for the Bills that there's a

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: certain amount of continuity that is going to happen. But

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01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: at the same time, continuity from a different angle, from

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: a different perspective. I think that you know, most offenses

1159
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, they get found out that you know, defenses,

1160
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: they're not stupid on defense. They make money too, and

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: they work at it and they figure out how to

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: stop the offense. After two or three years. Well, the Bills,

1163
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: they've been running this offense for a while, but now

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: it's a different kind of phase to it. It's a

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: different kind of prism that they're going to present because again,

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: the play caller is different. It's gonna look a little different,

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's good for the Bills. Bonus one

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: on Dorsey if I could real quick, so, I know

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01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: you addressed him being aggressive, and it's funny that you

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01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: said that because his players have said the exact same

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: thing here in Buffalo, So I think you nailed that one.

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: Part two, though, is how would you assess his mental

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: processing of the game, again as a college quarterback, not

1174
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: as a coordinator, because nobody's seen him in that role yet.

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: How might that translate just the way he was able

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: to adjust in games, adjust to what he was seeing

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: from an opposing defense, because I think that may translate

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: to his play calling abilities maybe more than anything else. Oh,

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: he went to the University of Miami, Man, I mean

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: we got geniuses down here we go, you know, we

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: we We may not get a bunch of Rhodes scholars,

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: but back in the day, people came to the University

1183
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 1: of Miami and they graduated sing Sigma com laude for football.

1184
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 1: That's and they knew what they were doing. And Dorsey

1185
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: learned a lot from you know, Bernie Kosa, excuse me,

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: Bernie Kosar, he learned a lot from. And originally when

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned a former University of Miami quarterback, I thought

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: you were gonna say, talk about Jim Kelly. So there's

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: a lineage, there's a legacy. He knows what he's doing.

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: He's been around the system, he's been around a great

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: coach and a great coaching staff. Tell me where the

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: problem is, please, Yeah, I get it. I just think

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: it's Yeah. I think it's just because it's the unknown,

1194
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: because he's never done it before, and that's why people

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: are asking so many questions. So we figured we tap

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: into his past a little bit with you and get

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01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: a better handle on that. I mean, Jill, people see

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: him do it, you know how. The questions are always

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: going to linger out there. But I'm encouraged by what

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01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: I've seen so far from him as a quarterbacks coach.

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: We know what his history is so and he's got

1202
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: it between the years, so we're good at it. Let

1203
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: me put it this way, there's a lot of coaches

1204
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: that are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, all

1205
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: of them because they had Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

1206
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Dorsey's gonna be a good coach, if not because he's,

1207
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, got it all up here and here, but

1208
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: also because Josh Allen is his quarterback. Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

1209
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: That's a good one to end on. Armando is great

1210
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: to be with you. Thanks for hanging out with us.

1211
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: Enjoy your summer. We'll catch up with you down the line,

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01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: all right, gentlemen, Always a pleasure. All right. That's Armando Salgaro,

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: senior NFL writer for OutKick dot Com and a Pro

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame selector. Break time for us. But

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: we're back with more, including your comments on the tweet

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: sheet about the Bill's position group besides quarterback, that as

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: you most excited for the twenty twenty two season. We'll

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01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: see in a couple of minutes. Welcome back to one

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: of Bills five. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here

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01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: on a Monday, and we're asking you on the tweet

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: sheet to day, besides quarterback, what position group has you

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01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: most excited for the Bills twenty twenty two season. We

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: took some phone calls in the first hour. Among the

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: position groups listed defensive line, running back, and slot wide receiver,

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: which was probably as specific as we got today. But

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: we want to hear from you, so we go to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: the official moving equipment companies of the Buffalo billsp Framp

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01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: and Joe. On the tweet sheet says defensive group as

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: a whole, all caps, how much time will Elam get,

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: how will the line rotation look, linebackers, different assignments. All

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: of that makes me extremely excited. Yeah, we've talked about

1233
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: it a lot. The defense was number one in the

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: league last year. They posted two shutouts in the first

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: like five six weeks of the season and that was

1236
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: you know, that went a long way towards their rankings.

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: But they were really good. But we've said at a

1238
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: time they were unspectacular. You know, you didn't see the

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: big sacks, a lot of flash plays. Um, I think

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: most of us. I mean, I'd take a top five

1241
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: defense if we had more splash plays, more turnovers. You know,

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01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather be number one of the league at turnovers

1243
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: than number one in the league overall defense. No, I

1244
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: think that's part of why Miller is here. Maybe, Um,

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: what do you think about his question about Elam? Does

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01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: Elam start week one? Yeah? I think he does, think

1247
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: he does. I think there's not a good chance of that.

1248
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: But I'm not ruling Jackson out yet, Bend. We can't

1249
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: rule out the Tray White recovery timetable either as a

1250
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: possible as a factor in that decision making. Two, there's

1251
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: a chance for me, I don't know where Trey White's

1252
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna be. I think Trey White will probably be ready

1253
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: to go by training camp at least at least on

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: a limited basis, you know, I would say like every

1255
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: other day or something like that. But I think he's

1256
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field and he's gonna be in

1257
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: uniform and taking part the other side of it, the

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: Kyrie Elam. I'll bet if Tray White is full go

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Speaker 1: on day one a training camp, I'll bet you Dane

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01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: Jackson lines up first. Oh that, yes, I would say

1261
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: that definitely happens, because we know how they work around.

1262
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,440
Speaker 1: That's right. You gotta earn it. You don't get handed anything.

1263
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: Now people will say, well Troy White started day one, Well, yeah,

1264
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: but did do you remember what the roster looked like

1265
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, they just traded away Ron Darby. Yeah,

1266
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there were a few openings,

1267
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: ye shall we say ye? So? And Tray was better.

1268
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Trey was better than the guys they had

1269
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: on the roster, and he was better the day they

1270
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: drafted him. So concerning how the line rotation will look,

1271
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: Coach Fraser did say their rotational system will continue. And

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01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: the first thing he said after that was because we

1273
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: want von Miller fresh in the fourth quarter. So even

1274
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: though you might not be thrilled to hear that, von

1275
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: Miller isn't going to be playing sixty to seventy snaps

1276
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: a game. You bet your bottom dollar he's gonna be

1277
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: playing on the money downs from the fourth quarter. If

1278
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: they get that's a definite. If they get fifty defensive plays,

1279
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: he's gotta be in on thirty to thirty five of them. Yeah.

1280
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: I would say either that or fifty plays. And maybe

1281
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: if it's that kind of game, fifty plays isn't a lot.

1282
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: If it's seventy five plays, he'll get in because nobody

1283
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: got last year, nobody got fifty percent of him, right,

1284
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they got until the playoffs he started playing.

1285
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes forty seven percent is like the top guy.

1286
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: I think Rousseau had the highest percentage, So I think

1287
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be somewhere in there. They get seventy five plays,

1288
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: he'll have thirty three thirty four plays. Faith On the tweet,

1289
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: Chet says wide receiver. I can't wait to see Diggs Davison.

1290
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: McKenzie also super curious to see who else makes the room,

1291
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: hoping Crowder and Austin Gentry too, at least on the

1292
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: practice squad. It's gotta be a whym fan looking for

1293
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: another another cowboy to make the rod. I love the

1294
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 1: kid Bill. I'm not gonna hold my breath on Tanner Gentry.

1295
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: She mentions Crowder in Austin though I think Crowder is

1296
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: pretty much a lock. Austin a little bit of a

1297
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: dark horse. I think Austin's got to be considered a

1298
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: dark horse right arrival very late in the process this offseason.

1299
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: Crowder is one of those guys they I think they

1300
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: went out and sought him out. He's proven they were

1301
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 1: after him a couple of years ago when they signed Beasley.

1302
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: They were hot after Crowder also, but he signed for

1303
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: more money than they were willing to offer it, and

1304
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: that's why he went to the Jets, because the Jets

1305
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: gave more money than the Bills were willing to give

1306
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 1: and so he went there the Bill and the Bills

1307
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly, they got to defend him. They

1308
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: don't like doing it. So they're like, one, you know,

1309
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: we we need a guy. We need that guy. He's

1310
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: really good. So that's you know, they see him twice

1311
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 1: a year and he gives them headaches. That's a great audition. Yeah,

1312
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: he's I think he had he had an eighty two

1313
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: yard touchdown against the Bills up here in one of

1314
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: the years that he was played. That was last year,

1315
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: wasn't It was either last year or the year before.

1316
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: A little fuzzy for me. I want to say it

1317
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: was when there was no fans in the stand, so

1318
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: I would lean towards twenty twenty. Dave on the tweet,

1319
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: Chet says, the running backs, let's go James Cook and

1320
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: we kind of address this already with a previous caller

1321
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: in the first hour. But yeah, Cook's one of the

1322
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: most talked about players by the guys on this roster

1323
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: of the new arrivals here. Yeah, that might include Von Miller. Right,

1324
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: we've we've talked, we and we the question has been

1325
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: put out there, And who do you think takes the

1326
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: snap number one, the first snap on opening day? Is

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01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: it Devin Singletary or James Cook? Um? If those are

1328
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: the only two choices, and it'll be the same thing

1329
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: as always. Devin's Singletary is gonna line up there to

1330
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: begin in training camp, and Devin, I mean, James Cook

1331
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 1: is gonna have to earn his way out of the

1332
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: field over the next month after training camp begins. Yeah,

1333
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: but is his skill set not Taylor made for the

1334
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: two minute drill? I mean, oh my god, isn't it.

1335
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: It's a Taylor. Here's the thing too, Brownie, it's Taylor

1336
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: made for what we know about Ken Dorsey. Well, right,

1337
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: it's for most conventional offenses. His skill set, his tailor

1338
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: made for the two minute drill. For what the Bills

1339
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: do throwing at forty five times a game. He might

1340
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: be Taylor made for the whole day game. Yeah, we see,

1341
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. So there you go. Yeah, I'm all about that.

1342
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm and I you know, I I think James Cook's

1343
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: going to be a difference maker. I think he's got

1344
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: that in him. I don't know. I have not met him,

1345
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: we haven't spoken to him. I've just watched him and

1346
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, um like wow, that that

1347
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. I mean his route running's crisp. I mean,

1348
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: he's really good at it. Je his skill set is

1349
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: really enticing. Jack on the tweet sheet says cool to

1350
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: think about how the wide receiver room will shake out.

1351
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: Have a lot of intriguing talent at the position. We

1352
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: know Digs one, Davis two, but after that it's wide open.

1353
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: I hope Mackenzie can finally lock down the slot job,

1354
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: but Crowder is good intrigued by Austin and Shakier. Don't

1355
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: count out Gene and Hodgens. You got a lot of

1356
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: slot guys, Steve. When you think about it, because it's

1357
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: not just Crowder or Mackenzie, Austin, Shakier and even Hodgens

1358
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,480
Speaker 1: are all slot options. Kind of makes you think about

1359
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: the options that Ken Dorsey's gonna have, Like he could

1360
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: go four wide with a couple of slots and not

1361
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: even have a tight end on the field. Yeah, yeah,

1362
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean they may do more of the

1363
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: whole menu of personnel combinations than they've done in the past. Um,

1364
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, take the tight end off the field, put

1365
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: both tight ends on the field, put three tight ends

1366
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: on the field, and pass and throw it. All of

1367
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: that stuff to two backs, three wides, two backs, one wide,

1368
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: one wide. Yeah, all of that. So they'll do all

1369
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,919
Speaker 1: of that, I think, and I think they're gonna experiment

1370
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: with it during training camp to see what works best

1371
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: and how a defense reacts to it. But he's right, Um,

1372
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't how that room's gonna shake out. But you

1373
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: have all those slot receivers. If they all show up

1374
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: on the final roster, you're looking at double slots receivers

1375
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: are now, certainly Austin and mackenzie can return kicks, but man,

1376
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: that your crowder, Austin and McKenzie on the same team.

1377
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: You're you're going, You're going double slot receiver to me.

1378
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: You know Hodgens is on the practice squad again, that's

1379
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: a guy a slot in reserve. You know, it's just Shakir.

1380
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: We haven't said Speedy Stevenson. I mean I mentioned him,

1381
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: but he's far an outside guy. But still, but you

1382
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: got Khalil Shakir also in the mix. See how he

1383
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: comes through. Yeah, there's a ton deep group is deep

1384
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: deep group. Matt on the tweet sheet going along the

1385
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: same lines wide outs digs. As the man gave takes

1386
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: another step forward, Isaiah steps into a more featured role

1387
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: in a sneaky Crowder signing a dangerous unit. All caps

1388
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: people are into the all caps to fired up. Yeah,

1389
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: it's it is you know you think about it this,

1390
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: think back to the drought years. If you can remember Brownie, Oh,

1391
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: can you just be we'd just be excited to have

1392
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: like no, and Tamon Austin gets signed later like oh there.

1393
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: It is not only to have him, you got mckense Crowder.

1394
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: So let me pose this to you, because each of

1395
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, the Bills have gone with

1396
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: six wideouts on their active roster, and almost every single

1397
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: week all six have been active on game day. If

1398
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: some of this double slot stuff is going to happen

1399
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: with the frequency that it could potentially happen, if there's

1400
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: two or three slot guys on the roster, how likely

1401
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: is it that they carry seven receivers on the fifty three.

1402
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily have to because the expanded practice squad

1403
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: is back for another year sixteen players, so they don't

1404
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: have to. But as we've talked about on our podcast,

1405
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Bills by the Numbers, there were five or six teams

1406
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: that carried seven receivers on their roster for more than

1407
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: half the season. It's it's going that way, it's rising.

1408
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: It's a number that's getting bigger every year. So I

1409
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: think it's probably going to continue. You'll probably see. But

1410
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: what about here with Buffalo specifically, do you think they

1411
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: could have seven on the active roster this year? I

1412
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: don't think we have enough information to think not ready,

1413
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: that's a TBD, But I think there's it's absolutely on

1414
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: the table, certainly within the realm of possibility. Absolutely it's

1415
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: on the table. I'm not saying they're gonna do it,

1416
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: but there's no way they're gonna let guys at that

1417
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: pos because think about it, You've got Diggs and Davis Crowder.

1418
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: Who's behind Diggs and Davis on the outside, who's a

1419
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: guy out there? Kumar Stevenson, Yeah, see that. To me

1420
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: that that's a little bit of an issue. You got

1421
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Davis and Diggs, and behind those two guys on the outside,

1422
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of largely unproved. You got a

1423
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: bunch of slot guys. Now Kumar will come in. He's

1424
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: taking snaps on the outside, you know, and stuff, and

1425
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. You know. You see what I'm saying.

1426
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,480
Speaker 1: Behind Digs and David on the Davids on the outside,

1427
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: it's a little sparse, curiously thin. Now, we love those

1428
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: guys and they've none neither of them have shown any

1429
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: preponderance to be injured for any shape, way, shape or

1430
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: form during the season. But that's never guarantee. If one

1431
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: of those guys goes down, I think you've got something

1432
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: there that that's a drop off to the third goes well,

1433
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: then your creativity has to go up a few ticks

1434
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: as an offensive right coordinator. So there you go. That's

1435
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: one thing that I'm a little if. I mean, we're

1436
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: splitting hairs because they are set there at that spot

1437
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: unless unless something happens. Yeah, break time for us here,

1438
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: Steve and I to finish up with some of your

1439
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: final thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next, what position are

1440
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: you most excited about on this bill's roster for twenty

1441
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: twenty two? More are your answers? Next? Here on one

1442
01:27:45,760 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: Bills Live all right, having things up on the tweet sheet,

1443
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Anthony said, I can't wait to see the old line. Hey,

1444
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: a little vote for the old line, Steve. There you go,

1445
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Devin's singletary and James Cook run free. The addition of

1446
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: OJ Howard alongside Dawson Ox should allow for a personnel

1447
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: package opponents haven't seen from us in the last couple

1448
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: of seasons as well. We kind of covered that. Nick says,

1449
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: for me, it's running back with the upgrades on the

1450
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: old line and the addition of Cook. I can't wait

1451
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: to see what this offense can do. Also, OJ Howard,

1452
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I think can really make things difficult for opposing d

1453
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: to cover all of Alan's weapons. We shall see, and

1454
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 1: David wraps it up by saying tight end group. Dawson

1455
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 1: has improved each year. Excited to see what OJ Howard

1456
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: can do. OJ Howard is an interesting question, Steve. And

1457
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: the reason why is I think the OJ Howard that

1458
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: most people remember is the sprawling, supremely gifted, gazelle like

1459
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: athlete that got drafted in the first round by the

1460
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. But he has had a long injury history,

1461
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: not the least of which is the Achilles Steve, which

1462
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: as we all know, often Rob's players of their explosiveness.

1463
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: We'll have to see him when the pads go on

1464
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Speaker 1: in camp if he still has it, yeah, and see

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Speaker 1: if he can stay upright. We'll see. But he is intriguing.

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Speaker 1: He's got all kinds of physical tools. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: a top five pick and for good reasons. So he

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Speaker 1: does bring in some competition. Dawson Knox is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to keep his foot on the gas and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun to watch those guys compete. More for us

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Speaker 1: to cover with you on the bills here tomorrow. We'll

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Speaker 1: see at one pm on Tuesday,