WEBVTT - The French Connection: Mary Carillo

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a part of you as a player on

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<v Speaker 1>the ATP Tour going into the French Open, going, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this might be the year that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind playing him because can you imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>That you're the person that puts him into retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>At I don't want to be that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the one time I overlapped with Andrea Agassi

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<v Speaker 4>in the tournament was the two thousand and six US Open,

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<v Speaker 4>his last tournament, my first tournament, and I just remember thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to play him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be the jerk that sends him

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<v Speaker 3>off to the retirement. Maybe that's a that's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad mindset, but I just I never wanted to be

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<v Speaker 4>that guy. So other people might have a different thought

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<v Speaker 4>process and want to be the guy that, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>finally beat rombay on the doll on clay, But for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like I just didn't want that field. I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like everyone was gonna hate.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, like, oh, that's the guy that beat him in

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<v Speaker 3>his last match, that's jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to the first episode of The French Connection,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by NBC Sports and Racket. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be covering everything from the French Open right

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<v Speaker 1>through to the Olympics back at the same side at Rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Garowskin Paris weekend. Wait, we're going to be there throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am joined, of course by the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Sam Query. Before we get to you, Sam, I

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<v Speaker 1>am an a stub six times Grand Slam champion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am alongside the wonderful I got to go this

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<v Speaker 1>way Sam Query, of course, former world number eleven in

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<v Speaker 1>singles on the ATP Tour, winner of ten singles titles

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<v Speaker 1>on the ATP. We were just bantering back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently one ATP title is worth ten doubles titles,

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<v Speaker 1>so technically you have one hundred and five titles and

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<v Speaker 1>I have sixty, so we're doing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam. Welcome Sam, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got that.

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<v Speaker 4>I got that reference from the Brian brother maybe the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest doubles team of all time, so it feels valid.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one singles title, we're ten doubles pats.

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to go into the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>also a professional pickle ball player now, Sam, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know you are that, but you were a former

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<v Speaker 1>tennis player, so I'm going to you know, still think

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<v Speaker 1>that you are an expert in the in the field

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<v Speaker 1>of the sport. Where are going to talk about through

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<v Speaker 1>of course the French Open right to the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To have later on the show, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the one and only Mary Carillo, who of course

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<v Speaker 1>has been to more Olympics than you and I can

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<v Speaker 1>bind by tenfold. But Sam, just real quick, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to the burning questions of the French Open and what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, et cetera. Rafael Nadal, We've got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Raffah fourteen time champion at Roland Garross. It's insanity

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<v Speaker 1>to even say those numbers. But just you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on him going.

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<v Speaker 2>To the tournament, playing the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>The decisions are possibly not all to play the French

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me thoughts on him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is the storyline at the French Open this year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, will Rafa play? Will if he plays, will

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<v Speaker 4>it be his last event? And we're just kind of waiting.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the tournament starts in about a week and

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<v Speaker 4>six days next Sunday, and everyone wants Raffa to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, everyone wants to see him play

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<v Speaker 4>at Roland Garrels one last time.

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<v Speaker 3>We hope that he goes out there and plays well.

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<v Speaker 3>We know he's gonna fight.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the he's got great he's got what it takes

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<v Speaker 4>to go out there. He's going to fight for every point.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, myself, along with the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 4>wants him to go out there one more time. So

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<v Speaker 4>I hope he does.

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<v Speaker 1>You played him, you know, you've actually had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable singles career in your own right. But just

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<v Speaker 1>give me your thoughts on Rafa in general, just for

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<v Speaker 1>the people at home that didn't get to experience having

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<v Speaker 1>to play him. And did you play him on clay,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's torture if you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I played him twice on clay shockingly lost both of those.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, right from the get go, you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're flipping the coin and you're up at the

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<v Speaker 4>net with the referee, he's bouncing up and down, he's

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<v Speaker 4>looking at you. You're intimidated right off the bat. You

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<v Speaker 4>know that when you're up forty love, he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>make you earn that next point to win the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're going to go out there and you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to battle for three four five hours and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>made him win fourteen French Open titles. And even though

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<v Speaker 4>this is his last event most likely and he's not

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<v Speaker 4>playing great as an opponent, you don't want to play

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<v Speaker 4>him with the French Open.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know you feel.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I'm one of the other one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seven guys in the draw, the one person I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to see is Rothay on.

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<v Speaker 2>The doll am I except for this year? Maybe? I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there if you were still playing on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and you saw that he look, he's not playing

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<v Speaker 1>great going into the French That's why the doubt is

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to play? But is there a part

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<v Speaker 1>of you as a player on the ATP Tour going

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<v Speaker 1>into the French.

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<v Speaker 2>Show Open going you know what? This might be the

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<v Speaker 2>year that I don't mind playing him because can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that you're the person that puts him into retirement

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<v Speaker 2>at the French I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the one time I overlapped with Andrea Agassi

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<v Speaker 4>in the tournament was the two thousand and six US Open,

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<v Speaker 4>his last tournament, my first tournament, and I just remember thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to play him. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be the jerk that sends him off to the retirement.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's a that's a bad mindset, but I just

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<v Speaker 4>I never wanted to be that guy. So other people

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<v Speaker 4>might have a different thought process and want to be

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that, Hey, I finally beat Rothay on the

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<v Speaker 4>doll on clay. But for me, it was like I

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't want.

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<v Speaker 5>That, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like everyone was going to like, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that beat him in his last match, that jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>That just proves that you're actually an empathetic, nice guy,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there are some guys in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room they'd be like, yeah, there would be nothing better

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<v Speaker 1>than to say I beat him in Paris at the

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<v Speaker 1>French Open on his best surface, and I'm the one

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<v Speaker 1>that put him into retirement there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some I think there's some psychotic players

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<v Speaker 1>out there that wouldn't mind doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you're absolutely right, most of the players actually probably

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<v Speaker 4>have that mindset. Give me, Rafa, this is the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been able to beat him for the last

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen sixteen years. This is my one opportunity. Let me

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<v Speaker 4>get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think, you know, these guys in twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years time are going to be like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Beat Raffa in Paris, what's the big deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So he was honest with people have done it. You're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a group of four that has beat

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<v Speaker 4>Rafa in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that number is absolute insanity. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and three losses in the French Open. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just explain to people at home how absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>bonkers that is. I mean, Chris Ebbott had an incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible career. Her numbers, arguably as far as win percentage,

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<v Speaker 1>are actually better than Raffers, but she also didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>as many as he did. In the end, this is

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<v Speaker 1>insanity what he has done here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I mean, you know how hard it is to

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<v Speaker 3>win one match on the need to tour.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's won one hundred and twelve matches at

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<v Speaker 4>the French Open alone. There's a lot of very good

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<v Speaker 4>players that haven't won one hundred and twelve matches on

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<v Speaker 4>the tour of their career, and he's done it at

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<v Speaker 4>one tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just incredible. It's one of the greatest feats in sports.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I don't think we'll ever see that

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<v Speaker 4>again in our lifetime. The dominance that one player has had,

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<v Speaker 4>not only at one tennis tournament, but possibly in all

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<v Speaker 4>of sports. It's it's truly impress like just one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most impressive things I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me, it's arguably the greatest feat in sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's ever going to do what he

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<v Speaker 1>has done because not only are you having to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the best players in the world over five sets, but

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<v Speaker 1>also let's not forget about the fact that it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to go injury free for that amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to get away with like being healthy

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<v Speaker 1>every year and was seeing Sadly, for him, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's more than likely going to stop him from

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<v Speaker 1>winning fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have given him a seed.

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<v Speaker 1>At the French Open, because that's been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a controversial or topic, I guess would you have

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<v Speaker 1>given him a seed?

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<v Speaker 4>I would not have given him a seed even if

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<v Speaker 4>he was ranked you know, they see the top thirty

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<v Speaker 4>two at the French Open. Even if he was ranked

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<v Speaker 4>thirty three right now, which he's not, he's ranked in

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<v Speaker 4>the hundreds. I still wouldn't have given him a seed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if you're top thirty two in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>you've done the work, you deserve a seed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, having said that, I am a fan of.

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<v Speaker 4>What Wimbledon used to do, where they would take the

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<v Speaker 4>top thirty two seeds and then they would shuffle him

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<v Speaker 4>around based on a formula on their.

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<v Speaker 3>Grass court results and seed based on that.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, right now, in Rotha's current situation and the

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<v Speaker 4>way he's playing, I don't think he deserves a seed.

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<v Speaker 4>And the guys in the top thirty two have put

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<v Speaker 4>in the work and they're there for a reason, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would arguably say that Rafa wouldn't have wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>seat either, because I think he's very aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's going into this tournament that he's dominated,

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<v Speaker 1>not playing good tennis, and not being one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you would probably agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of him would want to because we could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>have him playing Novak in.

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<v Speaker 2>The first round.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what people don't understand about the importance of having

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<v Speaker 1>a seed in general, is that you don't play someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Novak or sits a Pass or Zev or Sinner

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round. So let's just hope he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>play somebody like that in the first round. We'll wait

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<v Speaker 1>and see for the draw to come out. But speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of the draw, what about the fact that Novak Djokovic,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the most dominant player on the A Top

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<v Speaker 1>Tour last year, has not won a tournament this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that, I don't know what's more out well,

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<v Speaker 1>not outstanding weird is the fact that he's not won

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<v Speaker 1>a tournament or rough as one fourteen. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy going into the French Open.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, they're both crazy and Rafa or sorry Novak not

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<v Speaker 4>winning the VET and not even playing great all year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like he's losing in semis and finals. He's

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<v Speaker 4>going out early in event after event. So he's coming

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<v Speaker 4>to the French Open with probably the least amount of

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<v Speaker 4>confidence he's had in his entire career. The I guess

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<v Speaker 4>silver lining that he has going for him is Rafa's

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<v Speaker 4>not playing great, he doesn't have Roger Betder to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>Alcaraz and Center seem to have some injuries. We've got

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<v Speaker 4>a different winner every week on the men's side for

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<v Speaker 4>every clay court tournament, so there's really not one favorite

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<v Speaker 4>that's going in there. Kind of with all the momentum

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<v Speaker 4>behind him, Rafa or Novak has just as much of

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to win the French Open as as ten

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<v Speaker 4>to fifteen other guys, and so that's what's probably still

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<v Speaker 4>giving him a little bit of a belief of saying,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, I haven't had a great year, but no

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<v Speaker 4>one else has and I can still go win this tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, obviously we'll get into it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more when the draw comes out, etc. Who we

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to probably be the favorite, But right

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<v Speaker 1>now there is no favorite. I mean, Alcaraz is the

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<v Speaker 1>odds on favorite, but you know his injury issues and

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<v Speaker 1>Janick Sinner has had an amazing year, but also he

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<v Speaker 1>has a bit of a question mark. But as we said,

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<v Speaker 1>once a draw comes out, we'll have a slightly better idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But also Sam, as you know, best of five sets,

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<v Speaker 1>you can work your way into a tournament, and if

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<v Speaker 1>Novak's in the second week, then he goes in as

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<v Speaker 1>favorite to win the French Open in my opinion. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>flip it around because the women's is a whole different story,

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<v Speaker 1>because we have someone going into the French Open that

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<v Speaker 1>is by far the overwhelming favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so good on the red clay.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly, she's already proven that by winning the two biggest

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<v Speaker 1>lead up tournaments in Madrid and Rome, beating you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously her biggest rival and Sabrilanca, but Eager she untagged. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>she has just been so dominating on this red surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Just your thoughts on her and the women's side.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Siontec's incredible right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, winning Madrid and that incredible final over sabrill

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<v Speaker 4>Anca and then winning Rome relatively easy kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>She's won the French Open before. She's going into it

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<v Speaker 4>as the heavy favorite. Like you said, her movement not

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<v Speaker 4>only the clay, she moves well all the time, but

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<v Speaker 4>her movement is incredible. I mean she's and she's not

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<v Speaker 4>someone who's five foot five, she's you know, more of me,

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<v Speaker 4>she's maybe five to ten five. Yeah, I mean she's

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<v Speaker 4>an incredible mover. She's in perfect position for every ball

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<v Speaker 4>that she hits, and that's what I think is the

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<v Speaker 4>key to her success on the clay. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if I was a betting person, which I'm not, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's tech versus the field right now, and I would

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<v Speaker 4>take her going to the French.

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<v Speaker 1>Open even though she's dominating, is in your opinion, the

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<v Speaker 1>women's sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Game right now a little bit more interesting through the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last six months than the men, just because we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>these great rivals playing against each other more like Sabalanca

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<v Speaker 1>and Eager Chiante going into the French they've now played

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<v Speaker 1>each other a bunch of Rebakina. Look, she's also played

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<v Speaker 1>really well to this year, but this match in Madrid

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<v Speaker 1>was just arguably the best match of the year. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in the finals of Rome, Eager dominated. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little difference because there's no altitude in Rome, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the condition suited Sheiontech a little more, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why we had the blowout. But just this match

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<v Speaker 1>in Madrid and just over all the women, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're a little bit more interesting this year

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<v Speaker 1>going into the French Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>As a as a sports fan, I like when there's

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<v Speaker 4>dominance in sports by one or two individuals or one

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<v Speaker 4>or two teams. I think that is an interesting kind

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<v Speaker 4>of outlook on what's going on. When the Patriots were

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<v Speaker 4>dominating football, you either love the Patriots or you hated them,

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<v Speaker 4>but you were going to watch and see what was

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen. So I like that IgA and Sabalanca

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<v Speaker 4>are creating and and Rabakina as well. The three of

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<v Speaker 4>them are kind of separating themselves from the field and

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<v Speaker 4>it's making it's making for great rivalries. It's making for

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<v Speaker 4>some mu must watch matches and finals in these events,

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<v Speaker 4>which is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Where the men's side, you're going into these tournaments and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit of a free thro all. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to be in the semis and the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's exciting, sometimes it's not. But the women, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you're going into these tournaments now knowing you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get a really good semi final or final

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the event, which makes for kind

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<v Speaker 4>of an exciting kind of culmination of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Gee, you know, outside of Rebakina, because we know how

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<v Speaker 1>well she can play in any tournament, I think when

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<v Speaker 1>she's at her very very best, I think there's I

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<v Speaker 1>would put her equally to Eager, equally to saball Aanca

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<v Speaker 1>just because she has it. But unfortunately for her, she

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<v Speaker 1>just gets these random illnesses and injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why the dominance of someone like Nadal at the

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<v Speaker 1>French Open, or just even Novak and Rafa in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Their ability to be able to the longevity of not

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<v Speaker 2>getting you know, sick and injuries and things.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but Rebakina, you have to put her in

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<v Speaker 1>that category. But what about is there any other contenders

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the women's that also sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about Coco, like, throw throw a

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<v Speaker 1>few more people out there that you think are interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to watch going into the French.

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<v Speaker 4>Right interesting to watch it could and could win it,

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<v Speaker 4>or could make a run to the final if weird

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<v Speaker 4>things happened. But yes, Coco obviously has won the US Open.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a Grand Slam champion. She's got a big game.

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<v Speaker 4>She can make a run. Danielle Collins right now, winning Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>winning Charleston, semi finally in Rome last week. She's a fighter,

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<v Speaker 4>she's exciting to watch. Those two particular girls I think

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<v Speaker 4>are the the two to keep your eyes. But what

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<v Speaker 4>about I mean, you have a better understanding of one

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<v Speaker 4>game than I do. Who else is on that list?

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<v Speaker 3>With that?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree? I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Maria Sakari certainly has had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a better year. I mean, we've got former champions

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<v Speaker 1>in the draw as well, so you know, the women's

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<v Speaker 1>game for me, as you said, because of the rivalries

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<v Speaker 1>and the interest, and we've had so many Grand Slam

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<v Speaker 1>winners over.

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<v Speaker 2>The last couple of years. There's some big names in

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<v Speaker 2>the draw.

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<v Speaker 1>That we haven't even spoken about, so we cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, then they're going to all flip around and

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<v Speaker 1>play the Olympics not soon long after that at the

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<v Speaker 1>same place, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be really interesting. It's very different when

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<v Speaker 2>you represent your country.

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<v Speaker 1>The nerves are different, but individually they're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there in Paris and we cannot wait to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to bring them all to you. Of course, the French

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<v Speaker 1>Open is going to be on. It's starting on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>on Peacock. The coverage is going to be amazing opening

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<v Speaker 1>night action from Rolling Garos beginning noon Eastern. Then one

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<v Speaker 1>continues in full swing Monday the twenty seventh on NBC

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<v Speaker 1>and Peacock eleven easton. I cannot wait. The French Open

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<v Speaker 1>is literally my favorite. I love getting up early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and watching it. And we have someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about how important it is to cover

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<v Speaker 1>the French Open, and of course the Olympics with the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only, of course NBC's own Mary Carillo.

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<v Speaker 2>After we take a little short break.

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<v Speaker 1>As promised, the one the only Mary Carillo. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the French Connection. Mary, of

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<v Speaker 1>course joining me and of course Sam nineteen seventy seven

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<v Speaker 1>French Open mixed doubles champion with John McEnroe. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>put that out there. First of all, Mary, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us today. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>all things French Open leading into the Olympics. But my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 6>It's nice for your and Sam.

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<v Speaker 5>You may not know this, but the seventy seven French

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<v Speaker 5>Open mixed levels was John McEnroe's first major title. It

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<v Speaker 5>was my last. But let's not go into that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>how do you like that, my friend?

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<v Speaker 4>That's impesome. That's an amazing little forever there. He kind

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<v Speaker 4>of took Off's career. Without that win, there's no John McEnroe.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's what I'm saying. All right, what do you

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<v Speaker 6>want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know first of all, Mary, I just

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<v Speaker 2>put this in the background. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>can see that. This is my mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Doubles runner up at the French Open. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>that over me, my friend. I was a loser there

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<v Speaker 1>and you were a winner. But let's get tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me your favorite memories on and off the court,

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<v Speaker 1>basically in Paris.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean on the court.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, the only thing I've ever done was standing next

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<v Speaker 5>to John McEnroe when he won the French Roup mixles

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<v Speaker 5>and I just, you know, tried not to gag all

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<v Speaker 5>over the court.

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<v Speaker 6>But i mean off the court.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been in the booth and I tend to stay

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<v Speaker 5>a lot longer at the French Open when I'm not playing,

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm just talking about it. So I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 5>see you Rafa's entire run, I've seen Serena and Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen I've been doing this for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 5>I've I've gotten to call a dozen of French Opens.

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<v Speaker 5>It happened to be my favorite. I love clay. I

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<v Speaker 5>love I loved watching people figure out how to play

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<v Speaker 5>on clay. So I've been in Paris. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a couple of things you can do there, a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of things to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, is there one match over the years You've called

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<v Speaker 4>matches for decades now, is there a real match that

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<v Speaker 4>stands out in your head as kind of the best

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<v Speaker 4>match you've ever watched.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, obviously, the Nadal Federer matches weren't always great. Actually,

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<v Speaker 5>the one time that Roger Federer won in two thousand

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<v Speaker 5>and nine, it wasn't a good match. I was in

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<v Speaker 5>the booth with Ted Robinson and John McEnroe. But towards

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the match, he was winning so easily, Roger,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's finally going to win this one major that

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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't ever sure he could win.

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<v Speaker 6>And he starts jamming up, he starts crying, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like you could see that he's.

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<v Speaker 5>So I I talked to my producer, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>bat the cough button, and I said, you know, John,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm gonna stop talking. You know, let's just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>let's just show Raj, you know, going through all this.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Ted got quiet, and then even John got quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was the best part of the whole match,

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<v Speaker 5>was that Roger finally came good. On that surface, it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a great match, but it was a great moment.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have eat Robin Soderling in the final that year,

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<v Speaker 5>exactly right, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and Robin was never to be seen again.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mary, you know, when you sit up in the booth,

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<v Speaker 1>like explain the importance of seeing tennis also on red clay.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't get to see that very much.

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<v Speaker 1>But the beauty of the French Open, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the beauty of playing on clay, and just explain

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<v Speaker 1>to people why it's so different than playing on any

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<v Speaker 1>other Grand Slam surface.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, to my mind, clay is the game's classroom.

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<v Speaker 5>It's why so many Europeans have dominated tennis for so long.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>You learn how to to, you learn how to attack,

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<v Speaker 5>you learn how to move, you learn how to go

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<v Speaker 5>from offense to defense back to offense again. Points are complicated,

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<v Speaker 5>you manage the court differently. It's for that reason I

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<v Speaker 5>think clay court tennis and clay court tennis players are

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<v Speaker 5>really special.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, Yeah, well, I mean I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you on that. You know, you obviously very good

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Chris Evertt. So you're talking about Chris Evertt

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<v Speaker 1>and you're talking about Rafa, you know, so just compare

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<v Speaker 1>those two because you have seen them both through the

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<v Speaker 1>years compete and when the way that they have done

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<v Speaker 1>so well on you know, the clay in Paris, So

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<v Speaker 1>just you know your connection with both of those two

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<v Speaker 1>great players at the French Open.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean Rafa is a beast, you know he Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you see how physical he is, how mentally strong he is.

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<v Speaker 5>Chrissy was much later on the court, but she managed

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<v Speaker 5>the court again so well. She had so much concer

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 5>tration and focus and drive, and clay allowed her to

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<v Speaker 5>beat players who are bigger and stronger, right, who could

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<v Speaker 5>hit harder. She would keep a rally going and she'd move,

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<v Speaker 5>she'd move the ball around, manage the middle of the court,

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<v Speaker 5>and then all of a sudden she might hit her

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<v Speaker 5>forehand that that was just a little higher than the

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<v Speaker 5>last one, you know, or dip her back hand just

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<v Speaker 5>a little lower, and all of a sudden her opponent

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<v Speaker 5>was slightly off balanced, perhaps without even knowing it, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's when Chrissy would make her move. I mean, she was,

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<v Speaker 5>she was something else. Rafa won twice as many French

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<v Speaker 5>Opens as Chris. Wait a minute, remember when.

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<v Speaker 6>We used to say Bjorn Borg was the greatest clay

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<v Speaker 6>court player on the men's side. You know, he won

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<v Speaker 6>six oer.

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<v Speaker 5>And Rafa is just he is as remarkable. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know that that you can ever beat that feat.

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<v Speaker 2>Never, It'll never be broken.

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<v Speaker 4>The greatest feat in sports, in all of sports, with

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<v Speaker 4>that record and that dominance. I think think of anything

0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell of my head that's more impressive.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I can't either say.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me into the mindset of Rafa. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that you know, Sam and I talked about this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think that the French Open should be

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<v Speaker 1>Raffa's last event?

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<v Speaker 5>A friend of mine is actually working on an adal

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<v Speaker 5>documentary and they've spent a lot of time, uh, talking

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<v Speaker 5>to Rafa and his coaches and his family, his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 5>It sure seems like his team of family and coaches

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<v Speaker 5>want the French Open to be his final, his final appearance.

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<v Speaker 5>But Rafa is fighting that. You know, he's not ready

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<v Speaker 5>to say yeah, I'm gonna this is the end for me.

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<v Speaker 5>So that will It will be interesting to see if

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<v Speaker 5>that changes in the coming in the coming weeks. We

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<v Speaker 5>know that he's talking about playing doubles at the Olympics

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<v Speaker 5>with Carlos Alcarez and that would be something to see.

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<v Speaker 5>He's already said he's going to play the Labor Cup,

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<v Speaker 5>which I still consider to be an exhibition. Uh after

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<v Speaker 5>this it is because because it is, everyone seems to

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<v Speaker 5>now want to retire at Labor Cup, you know, after

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<v Speaker 5>Roger did. Now it sounds like Rafa wants to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know when it's Uh, it would.

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<v Speaker 6>Be something glorious.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if he were to decide to put down

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<v Speaker 5>his rackets in Paris, but who knows? What where are

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<v Speaker 5>you guys landing on that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I want as a tennis man. I touched

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<v Speaker 4>on this the other day with Renee. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>be at the Open, even if he doesn't go out

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<v Speaker 4>and win or play Gray. That's where his legacy has built.

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Fetters was more at Wimbledon, in the Labor Cup. The

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<v Speaker 4>world wants Rafa to end at the French Open, That's

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<v Speaker 4>what That's what everyone wants. He wants that's where the

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<v Speaker 4>goodbye should be. That's where his story needs to end.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm hoping for that to his last event.

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<v Speaker 6>So it sounds like you guys don't think he's going

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<v Speaker 6>to win the French Hope. Uh No, No.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yes.

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<v Speaker 4>If I had to place a bet down, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be on him unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But no matter what happens this year.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going down as the as the greatest clay quarter

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<v Speaker 4>ever and that will probably be forever.

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<v Speaker 5>Right and and and just so, just to go back

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<v Speaker 5>to how Roger feder I mean, he he wanted Wimbledon

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<v Speaker 5>was his was his great event. But the last time

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<v Speaker 5>he played Wimbleman, he lost in straight says oh in

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<v Speaker 5>the third.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember that that's not how we wanted to go out.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean I don't want I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Want to see the Rafa go down like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But h god, damn it, he was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor old, poor old Herbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Hercuts has put you know, he put basically Roger into

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<v Speaker 1>uh into retirement. And then the other day I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might have mentally put Rafa in retirement in Rome.

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<v Speaker 2>So and he's the nicest guy on to us. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But may you know, through the years, Roland Garros has

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<v Speaker 1>certainly changed. I mean, Chatrier got an upgrade, The.

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Bull Ring is no more.

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We love the bull Ring court back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I hated it because I always lost on

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that court. And now you know, Simone, but Matthieure now

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<v Speaker 1>is like maybe one of the best courts in tenna.

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<v Speaker 1>So es your thoughts also on the changing atmosphere at

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<v Speaker 1>Roland Garrison and sort of through the years, you've seen

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the upgrades, You've seen what they've tried to do, because

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>it's very small if you can't just expand it like

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<v Speaker 1>the austral And Open. We get to expand it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit easier because we have the help of the government.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about that from your.

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<v Speaker 5>Perspective, continent of Australia gets to do whatever the hellp

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 5>unlimited lay there. But the French Open has the smallest

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<v Speaker 5>footprint of the four majors, so to make great advances

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 5>is tricky and you got to get all kinds of Yeah,

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 5>you have to go through the neighbors and there we

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 5>don't want it.

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 6>All that kind of stuff.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 5>But I'm so excited that the Olympics will be played

0:24:55.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 5>will be played there because experiencing Roland Garros the years

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 5>already know how special it is. And it's going to

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 5>be a tricky maneuver for them to go from clay

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 5>this clay court season to a couple of weeks of

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 5>grass including Wimbledon, and then go back to clay because

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 5>normally after Wimby it's all hard courts. So who who

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 5>are the players who can pull that off the best?

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean we know Novak can do it. I mean

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 5>we know that. Uh uh, sabal Anka is great at that.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, it'll be interesting to see who that favors.

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 5>You know how well everyone has paid themselves the heart.

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<v Speaker 5>The tricky thing about this year's French Open. Uh, it's

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 5>like it feels wide open, not because everyone's playing well,

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 5>but because everyone seems injured exactly, and Shulde surfaces is

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<v Speaker 5>a tricky deal.

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<v Speaker 6>As you two know so well, it'll be.

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<v Speaker 5>An interesting Uh, we got an interesting summer ahead, kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me, you see this Sheek or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in the current kind of play, especially on the men's side,

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 4>we don't have these court specific players like.

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 3>Rafa is a player Roger W. Warren grass.

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Even going prior to that with Sampras and Clareton on clay,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like all the guys kind of play a

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 4>similar style and they do equally as well on clay

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 4>courts and grass courts and hard courts, and that opens

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<v Speaker 4>to I think even more players that can do well

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<v Speaker 4>at the French Open and the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely true, Sam and I used to always be so

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<v Speaker 5>pleased that the.

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<v Speaker 6>Women, the great women champions could win on anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, when you go back to and Chrissy

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 5>and Martina and Serena and they could win on anything.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 5>And now it seems that the men can do the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing again. Fitness seems to be such a big

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<v Speaker 5>deal these days.

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 6>It's hard to figure out.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you guys already know in your heads who's going

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<v Speaker 5>to win the French on both sides?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you have to be not paying attention

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to anything in women's tennis if you don't think Euston

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<v Speaker 1>Tech is by far the favorite, not only in Paris

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>but of course coming back to Paris for the Olympics.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 1>She must be so pumped for the opportunity. I mean,

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Rafa sadly for him to not have had the opportunity

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to be at his very best to win a gold

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>medal at the Olympics in Roland Garros is like so

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<v Speaker 1>sad in a way, but also give somebody else an

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to win a gold medal. But you know, hey,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to Novak on one Novak hasn't won one and

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a best of three though, I think it's for people

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>out there not to understand and Sam and I have

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about this.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>He knows so well.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Men's best of three is very different to best of five,

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>which is why we've had some interesting people win the

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>gold medal at the Olympics in the men's side as

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>opposed to on the women's side. But I mean, look Eagerson,

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>tek by father favorite, and I would say that Novak

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>mentally has sort of made I think, I don't know

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>about you, Sam, the Olympics his priority this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's the one thing that Mary just said that's

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 4>not on his resume. He has everything else but that

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 4>gold medal at the Olympics. So even though he hasn't

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>played great this year, I think at the beginning of

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 4>the year, he brought up a calendar, he highlighted the

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Olympics and said like, let's let's peak right here.

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 3>And so I think that is the main goal for

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 3>him in twenty twenty four.

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 5>But also, guys, Novak has once again after the Australian Open,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 5>he got rid of Gorani Venissovitch, who had helped him

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 5>win a whole bunch of majors. He seemed it seems

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 5>like there's a bit of chaos internally, you know, right,

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean I'm not sure where I'm Usually you know

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 5>exactly how good Novak Djokovic is going to be, exactly

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 5>how tough he's going to be, and what his goals

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 5>are and how he plans to meet them.

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure where he is right now.

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, Mary, I think him it's been a

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>bit tumultuous. He got rid of his management team at

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the end of last year, He's changed his coaching crew,

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's been a very tumultuous start to the year.

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know, as Sam and Yet Stubbs, it's unheard of.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of last year I actually thought

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>he was going to have his best year ever and

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>then sort of like be like.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm done.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>But age age does, in my opinion, and eventually take

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>its toll, even on the greats.

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>But let's flip Mary to the Olympics. Is we want

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to get to that.

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>What are some of your favorite memories at the Olympic Games.

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've had so many great ones. If you

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen her Rant in Badman, just go on to YouTube.

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the greatest live segments of TV. And

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>when we say vamp vamp vamp, it means just keep talking, Mary, Well,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you did a great job on the bad minute.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 5>But my badminton rant that was in Greece. That was

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 5>the Athens Olympics. Yes, that is truly ridiculous and I'm

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 5>very proud of that. Look, I'm elderly, this is this

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 5>will be my sixteenth Olympic Games.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 6>But it makes me feel young to be at the Olympics.

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 5>I've gotten to see Michael Phelps and you've seen balls

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 5>and some mobiles. I mean, I've it's been I've been

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 5>blessed and I've gotten to do features that have some

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 5>of the favorite things I've ever done are the Olympics features.

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.719
<v Speaker 5>But I have to tell you my favorite thing about

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 5>the Olympics, and it's happened the last couple is when

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 5>the NBA players come to watch the w NBA players

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 5>the women's basketball play. And obviously they've been ruling the

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 5>games as have the men for many Olympics now, But

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 5>to see those guys want to be there watching the

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 5>women basketball players, it makes my heart sing.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 6>I love that.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Now, you could call a tennis match in your sleep.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 4>At the Olympics, We've got all sports. How do you

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 4>prep for calling swimming, gymnastics, these other sports that maybe

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 4>you're not as well versed in. Do you have to

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 4>do extra homework or What's I mean?

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 5>I tried to, you know, one hundred days out we

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 5>usually start getting all kinds of research and stuff.

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 6>I do the open Water Marathon, which is one.

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Of the most untelevisable events you can.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 6>And I've done the last three hope.

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<v Speaker 5>The good news is I do it with Rowdy Gaines,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 5>and even Rowdy thinks it's a confusing thing.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 6>There's no number these guys.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 5>These guys are jumping the water, the women the next

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 5>they there's like a hundred of them, and there's you.

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 5>You don't know who the hell they are. There's no

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 5>numbers on their backs. And they for a couple of

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 5>hours they swim around, booize and stuff and and basically

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I try to do research on that. But I find

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 5>myself for those couple of hours saying to Rowdy, now,

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 5>what's going on?

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Now, what's happening?

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 6>Now who's winning?

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 5>And then and then in the final forty seconds of it,

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 5>Rowdy starts going crazy and he's jumping up and down.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 5>There's all kinds of things happening under the and then

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 5>that's over, and then I think I cannot believe I.

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 6>Just got asked to call that event.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you, is it Sam? Is it difficult?

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it more difficult to call that knowing that you're

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>basically picking a cap and trying to fire out who

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the person is, or or working on the dog.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Shows where you're like, I don't know what's happening here.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 5>No, no, now, dogs, I have an affinity. I actually

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 5>feel much better prepared calling the National dog show that

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 5>airs every Thanksgiving. I've done that for a lot of years.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 5>I love dogs. I researched dogs. They you know, they

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 5>are the friendliest athletes I've ever known. They let you

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 5>scratch them, you know, they kiss you. I mean that's different.

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 5>But open Water Marathon. I love the event.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 6>Because it's just the most delirious thing you can imagine.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 6>Trying to understand going into the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever get to hey, hey, you know what,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>this is a new Olympics for me. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>call sport this.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel fairly fluent in tennis. Okay, like that's that's

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 5>my lane right there. You know, in any other sport

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 5>I would do, I would be play by play or

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 5>i'd be a reporter, and I've done plenty of that,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 5>and I feel very good. I love I care about

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 5>it so much. I mean, if I can, if I

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 5>can keep doing Olympics. It's just one of the great moments.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, you grow up watching the Olympic Games. You

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 5>grow up, you know, caring so much for a couple

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>of weeks about sports that you've never cared about before.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 5>You think, I watched swimming, you know, for the for

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 5>the four years leading up to the Olympics.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 6>No, do I watch mnastics?

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 6>When when do I watch figure skating? No?

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 5>And all of a sudden, the Olympics comes around, and

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm absolutely enthralled.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You always want to watch the sports that anta's mainstream,

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, Yeah, well those aside sometimes for these other

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 4>sports you're talking about, because you get them onths every

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 4>four years.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's right.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 5>And and I especially love the Winter Games because they

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 5>take you to places that tennis never.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 6>Takes you to.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 5>All of a sudden, you're up in the Italian Alps

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 5>or you're there like you're in places, and the athletes

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 5>winter athletes are different, you know. They they walk outside,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, and look around and see what the wind

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 5>is like with that, Like you're so much more aware

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 5>of their.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 6>Environments than than tennis players. Everything about it. Can you

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 6>tell me like covering the Olympics, I.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Mean, I don't know, I'm feeling sensing that. I mean,

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I've had the joy Mary of calling the last three

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Olympics in tennis. And we had a special moment obviously

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>being able to call the Olympics in London at Wimbledon,

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, this moment is arguably the same where

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the Olympic tennis is going to be played at a

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Grand Slam, you know, uh stadium in venue in Roland, Garross,

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. And Sam and I sort of go back

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and forth about the importance of tennis in the Olympics.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to know your thoughts. I know mine, but

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are your thoughts about having tennis in

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics and the importance of that.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm delighted it, Sarah.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, can you imagine being a tennis player and

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, all your dreams are about winning Wimbledon or

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 5>winning the U and all of a sudden, tennis becomes

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 5>an Olympic event. Like I just remember when I happened

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 5>to be with John McEnroe when that, you know, when

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 5>it was announced and he said, oh, who the hell

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't want that? You know, it had been an exhibition sport.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 5>But now all of a sudden you get a medal.

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, you're playing for your country as well as

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 5>for yourself. You know, you get to put a number

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 5>up on the medals count. I don't I don't see

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 5>the downside.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 6>I really don't. Of course, it clogs up. You have

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 6>to be very fit. Obviously, you have to be very fit.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Mary, that's this guy, us, this guy, that's this guy.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 4>I have a bit of a take ilypics. I had

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 4>to play in the Beijing Olympics in two thousand and eight.

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 4>It was incredible.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I do feel like though, as a tennis player, as

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 4>a golfer, as an NBA player, you would rather win Wimbledon,

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 4>the French Open, the PG Championship, the Masters, an NBA

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 4>title over an Olympic goal.

0:35:59.000 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 6>All right?

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Actually, as an American I think that's the kind of

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I would think most of the players would feel that way.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 4>What do you think when it comes to those kind

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 4>of few examples I gave, would you rather win the

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 4>French Open or an Olympic gold.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you. I'll tell you what means more to

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 6>most people.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I remember this story Sam Xena Garrison won a gold

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 5>medal in doubles, and she would always talk to kids

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 5>and stuff, you know, go into classrooms and try to

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 5>get kids.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 6>And she she would.

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 5>Bring her gold Olympic gold medal in a baggie and

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 5>show them, you know, she'd put it out there for kids.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 5>She'd take it out and they all were They couldn't

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 5>believe that they were holding an Olympic gold medal. Xena

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 5>understood the power of that. I think a lot of

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 5>any athlete understands the power of an older And it

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 5>doesn't even have to be gold, but that's obviously everyone's

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 5>favorite color, right I think people understand that. So yes,

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 5>in the world of ten, maybe those are at your goals.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 5>But I mean, I know that Novak sure wants to

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 5>win an Olympic goal for Serbia. He has stated it,

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 5>he means it. You know, there aren't that many things

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 5>he hasn't done. I think, you know, he played at

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 5>the Tokyo Games and it was damn hot.

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 6>I was there.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 5>It was really really hot in Tokyo. A couple of

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 5>years ago when he was trying to win. He wanted

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 5>to win all four majors and Olympic gold, yep, and

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 5>that that ruined his chances.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows what the Olympics.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I go to my next neighbor and they might not

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 4>know what the Australian Open is or the is.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 3>You know what the Olympics is.

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 4>And I'll give you that is a valid point, like

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 4>the world knows what an Olympic gold medal is.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sam.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Finally, finally we're bringing this guy around. I mean, listen,

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, for me personally, I played in four Olympics

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and I never came away with any.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Medal at all, and it still irks me to this day.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>And I won a few tennis tournaments and a few

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Grand Slams and that's still bothers me to this day.

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I think the difference is just like you know.

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You know the World Cup in football, you know a

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of players or soccer players would say that means

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>more to them, but also arguably the Olympic gold is

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>as important in some respects for me. I think in

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>tennis Grand slams at the level you want to get to,

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but if you win a gold that certainly means a

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>lot to you as a tennis player. So I love

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that the tennis at tennis is in the Olympics. And

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like you said, it possibly ruined Novak Djokovic's attempt to

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>win a calendar Grand Slam when he lost in the

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>finals of the US Open because he was exhausted for

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that year.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 2>But it also shows you.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>How important it is to him. I mean, we've seen

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that guy cry leaving the court. We've seen del Potro

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>cry and be hugged by Rafael Nadal at the Olympics.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these guys, it means a lot to them.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>So Mary, I mean, just to wrap it up with

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you just going back to Paris for the French Open

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and the Olympics. Just overall, how lucky do you feel

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do this job?

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, really to explain to people at home how

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 2>joyful it is for you.

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 5>Look, I know it's a scam, Okay, I know how

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 5>lucky I am. I mean it is, It's what I

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 5>love to do. I'm very very passionate about it. I'm

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 5>very committed to it.

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 6>Ah.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 5>I love watching excellence in all forms, but when you

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 5>see athletes at the height of their powers and and

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 5>and in some of these events it's decided by a

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 5>hundredth of it of a second whether they get on

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 5>the podium or not, whether.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 6>It is just it is. I just feel gratitude.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 5>I just feel absolutely blessed that I can go from

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 5>the French Open back to Paris for the Olympic Games.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I uh, I'm very very grateful.

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Basically, it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>croissants consumed by the one and only Mary Carilla through

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>this summer, maybe in Paris for the French Open, of

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 1>course for the umpteenth time as the nineteen seventy seven

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.240
<v Speaker 1>mixed doubles champion, and of course our gold medal champion

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in Paris again for the Olympics.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, Mary, it's time for serve and volley, which

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you do so well. Okay, it's a quick,

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>rapid question and I need you to answer as quickly

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>as possible. So here we go.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start with the first one, I say, Rafael Nadal.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 1>First thing that comes to your mind is.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 6>How much he cares? How much he cares?

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Short and sweet? Yeah, Andy Murray's will be remembered for what.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 6>How much he cares this is easy.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You're usually more creative than this.

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 5>Come on, no, I'm saying that's my favorite part of

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 5>both of those guys is how much it means to them.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.760
<v Speaker 5>And again, we're gonna have a lot of these people

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 5>going away soon, so you better I care as much

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 5>about them as that he seemed to care about about

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 5>their place in tennis history. So I don't think it's

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 5>as those are two lousy answers.

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 6>I think they're real.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I Sam, I don't know about you, but I'm going

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>to go back to the.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>First thing when I when Raphael and Nadal comes to mind,

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is just grit. I've never seen anyone dig so deep

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like Raphael and Nadal, and he does it.

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>He shows the grit.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I'm going to remember it more

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so than anyone. And if I had to say about

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Andy Murray as well, his emotions and his vulnerability when

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 1>he's won and lost, that is.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 2>What I'll remember about him.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think that does come Marry to the same point,

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>how much he cares?

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 2>What about you, Sam?

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, same thing when he comes to Rafa and the grit.

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 4>I think he's maybe the grittiest those fears competitor in

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 4>all sports. I think there's an argument that he is

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 4>the greatest competitor in all sports of since I've been

0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 4>watching sports at least. And Andy Murray just a fighter,

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<v Speaker 4>I think. I mean, it's all kind of using the

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<v Speaker 4>same words, but he just makes you earn every point.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to throw up sky lobs, He's going to

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<v Speaker 4>do whatever he can to win. You see, he's still

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<v Speaker 4>out there right now, playing playing challenges, trying to fight

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<v Speaker 4>his way back.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't get a lot of thirty seven year olds

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<v Speaker 3>doing with.

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<v Speaker 2>A metal hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget all right, So so what then, therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary said the same thing, we all said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to skip the next question because we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of answered it about what would Andy Murray be remembered for?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think we've already talked about that. But what

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<v Speaker 2>about should Dominic team have received a walk card at

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<v Speaker 2>the French Open?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And why?

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<v Speaker 6>Because Dominic Team?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that I think so many of us thought

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<v Speaker 5>that if team were to win any major, it was

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<v Speaker 5>going to be the French maybe after Nadals stopped, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>being in charge of that particular. Yeah, Dominic Team deserves it.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a great, great talking competitor, and he's aging and

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<v Speaker 5>he's had a rough couple of years. The fact that

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<v Speaker 5>he's my attitude about wildcards and I'm not crazy about them,

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<v Speaker 5>but you give them to young kids, you know, give

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<v Speaker 5>them a chance to or you give it to the

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<v Speaker 5>older guys who really need it. You know, nobody needs

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<v Speaker 5>a wildcard more than Dominic team into the French Open,

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<v Speaker 5>and no one, to my mind, deserves it more.

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<v Speaker 6>How about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree?

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<v Speaker 6>Wildcard?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I think everyone outside the French Tennis Federation

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<v Speaker 4>wants dominiqu team to get a wildcard.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly right, exactly right. You should actually run him a

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<v Speaker 6>wildcard exactly well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Mary for joining us on the quickest, longest two

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<v Speaker 1>minute drop shot. You know that we could have done

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<v Speaker 1>with you with rapid fire Servant Volley and we appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>as always your thoughts on these players, and we can't wait,

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<v Speaker 1>as we said, for the French Open to start. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>so every single episode, we are going to post a

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<v Speaker 1>new question on NBC's X account or Twitter, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it, and we want you to share

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<v Speaker 1>your response during the following show.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the question Sam has it for.

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<v Speaker 4>You should Rafa play his last doubles match with Novak

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<v Speaker 4>at the Labor Cup to recreate Feederer's last match, Tweet

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<v Speaker 4>your response to at NBC Sports and we'll share it

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<v Speaker 4>with you guys on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to definitely have answers to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>have my own opinion. I'm sure Sam you have yours.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, guys, thanks so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>the French Connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Brackett And as Sam already pointed out, this coming Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third, right before the French Open, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk all things French Open through to the amazing

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