Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy three,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Dirt Like Guys production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, February second, black yest
Speaker 1: three months. Yes, it is to two three, three three three.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it more like the dance halls three or three.
Speaker 1: Let's see. That's you're from Europe and I'm from the
Speaker 1: dance halls of Jamaica are from. But it's also National
Speaker 1: Heavenly Hash Day, which I had I just so wold.
Speaker 1: I had this ice cream flavor over the weekend and
Speaker 1: it's fucking it has like everything else. I thought it
Speaker 1: was another of these new fangled to drugs that you no, no, no,
Speaker 1: kids are talking about, not like what I was trying
Speaker 1: to make you do CB two earlier. But it's also
Speaker 1: National Groundhog Day Optimist Day if you're an optimist. The
Speaker 1: first thurs name it was ground hug Day. Yeah, National
Speaker 1: Taker's hog Day. Okay, groundhog Day, how about that? Always
Speaker 1: sneaks up on my ass, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: every year I'm like, not this time, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have all of my groundhog Day plans ready to
Speaker 1: go fucked it up again and my Phil Phil pun
Speaker 1: base's im making I don't do for me. I feel
Speaker 1: like when groundhog Day came out, my interesting groundhog Day
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's groundhog Day, and then that ship yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it fell off like two years later, and
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, because also living in California like weather,
Speaker 1: like winter as a foreign concept. So yeah, Miles, we
Speaker 1: don't have a single day ground hug Day article in
Speaker 1: today's episode we are gonna do. Look there there have
Speaker 1: been like something like seven hundred punks or tawny pills
Speaker 1: or something, so that that was the thing that always
Speaker 1: blew in my mind. Yeah, they just were killing those
Speaker 1: ye like what they go through five per shot. Just
Speaker 1: it's swapping them out. I don't know why I think
Speaker 1: that's funny. That's not funny. Be kind of animals. My
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien, a k. Jack O'Brien. Baby on
Speaker 1: the tree top. When the wind blows, this booty will drop.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of my brain. Just that's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking this morning. And I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co host Mr Miles. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. I'm still an expecting father. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. I'm a k A my bond stronger.
Speaker 1: Yes today, now that I change the water twice a day,
Speaker 1: this moldy missing killing me no more? My bong stronger.
Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, shout out to Britney Spears and Lockerron me
Speaker 1: on the discord that a ka will be very appropriate.
Speaker 1: We find out where guest is. Yeah, yeah, but also
Speaker 1: I'm I am cleaning a bomb twice a day, are you?
Speaker 1: Is that a new Is that a new practice? I
Speaker 1: know that when we had a when I lived with
Speaker 1: a Bomb as my like third roommate, that we were
Speaker 1: very negligent when it came to keep our water changes.
Speaker 1: We changed the water infrequently. It's like what you tell
Speaker 1: your grant, Like you know when you visit your grandparents
Speaker 1: and you tell them how you want your life to
Speaker 1: be going and pretend that's how it's going when it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not cleaning that today. In my mind though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to get on that program. Yeah, well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a hilarious comedian, writer podcaster who you know from
Speaker 1: Lady to lady you know from Brittney's Graham. But she
Speaker 1: helped start the Free Brittany movement and her new podcast
Speaker 1: Babstinents yea, her year of not drinking It's bads. No
Speaker 1: one changes a bong water like, it doesn't help. It
Speaker 1: just stays bong water. It's not even to help if
Speaker 1: you changed it. Yeah, well it helps you keep your
Speaker 1: ship clean and the flavor is nice. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that again, the it's like groundhog Day. Like when
Speaker 1: I get a new bong, I'm like, I'm into it,
Speaker 1: I'm cleaning it, and then like three weeks later, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened to that old thing? Groundhog Day? I feel
Speaker 1: like that is like the one holiday that's not people
Speaker 1: aren't leaning into. Yeah, like we didn't even know until now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to make it a thing, did you? Did
Speaker 1: you care about groundhog Day? PABs? Well no, I mean
Speaker 1: I think there really is the only reason that anyone
Speaker 1: thinks about it. Right. Yeah, wait, but where'd you grow up?
Speaker 1: Did you grow up somewhere with weather? I grew up
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, So yeah, I guess. Um, for us,
Speaker 1: it wasn't No, it didn't matter it was more like
Speaker 1: it was like, well, the Mormons allow people to have
Speaker 1: rites in their church. That was the decision each year.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, nope, nope, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 1: Let's see what the groundhog says. It's no, it's no.
Speaker 1: And has your year of living without booze like been
Speaker 1: like a return to Salt Lake City because Salt Lake City, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of a innovator in the in the teetotaling arts. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, Salt Lake is interesting because Salt
Speaker 1: Lake itself is very like it's like less Mormon. I
Speaker 1: didn't grow up Mormon, but it's it's like more so
Speaker 1: like rebelling a lot of you know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of like it's an artistic community and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So Salt Like itself is like kind of boozy if
Speaker 1: you're gonna go anywhere in Utah. But yeah, it does
Speaker 1: feel like a return to like I didn't drink it
Speaker 1: till I was twenty one or anything. Like. I was
Speaker 1: very like like, just like this is when you drink.
Speaker 1: You know, it was not like normal quote unquote in
Speaker 1: my high school to drink really. Yeah, so it is
Speaker 1: it's been six months of not drinking um, and it's
Speaker 1: been you know, interesting. Uh. Finally I think I got
Speaker 1: over the um. I went to New York and that
Speaker 1: was like horrible, and that was it was really hard.
Speaker 1: And then once I got past that, I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can probably Yeah, New York. It's
Speaker 1: gotta be tough. If I cannot drink here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna try to New York, New York if I
Speaker 1: can say, sober here, not drank here. You cannot drink anywhere?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah that's Have you had any dirty
Speaker 1: dirty sodas since since stuff? Oh yeah, those dirty sodas? Um?
Speaker 1: I did. I tried pilk. I will say, how was it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 1: This is a non bullshit? Um? You know it was okay. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think the thing is you have to have more
Speaker 1: pepsi than milk, because if it's not sweet enough, then
Speaker 1: you're in trouble, right, Yeah, just dusting of pepsi ratio
Speaker 1: more pepsi. Yeah. Alright, bab's we're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about I think we have a theme today
Speaker 1: that is that we live in the dystopian future of
Speaker 1: eighties movies. It's it's just it's so much dumber than
Speaker 1: like people are always like, oh, we live in the
Speaker 1: Running Man, we live in fucking some other, we live
Speaker 1: in Robo. We live in a world that is dumber
Speaker 1: than robo copn Yes, so we'll talk about that. Dr
Speaker 1: Phil's terrible show is ending kind of not really and
Speaker 1: also Dr Phil has like a media empire that I
Speaker 1: didn't know about. I can't believe Bull is based on
Speaker 1: Dr Like a version of Dr Phil that he was
Speaker 1: is like telling people, was like, yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 1: I used to be a human lie detector test and
Speaker 1: and you know how Yeah, mechanical ones are totally unreliable.
Speaker 1: Not my biases. Before we get to any of that
Speaker 1: ship bebs, we do like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is reeling about
Speaker 1: who you are? Oh my god, you know what I
Speaker 1: searched yesterday was like a focus app for your for
Speaker 1: Mac where you can like block certain websites because I'm
Speaker 1: addicted to this is so embarrassing because I was making
Speaker 1: people playing fantasy people but I'm addicted to playing Risk online.
Speaker 1: I know. I feel like this says if you want
Speaker 1: to know about me, that says a lot. So I
Speaker 1: can't stop playing this game and I have to like
Speaker 1: literally block it because I am playing it all the
Speaker 1: time and it's bad and everyone who plays with me
Speaker 1: thinks I'm a man. Oh like when you're playing like
Speaker 1: the chat because you can chat and like will win
Speaker 1: a game. You can play with teams and will win
Speaker 1: a game, and like yesterday we won a game. The
Speaker 1: guys like, good job, gentlemen over here, and I'm always
Speaker 1: just laughing, like who the funk am I'm playing playing
Speaker 1: with these like people who never want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, I have to get a focus app
Speaker 1: so I can't play it. So it's very it's bad
Speaker 1: because you're not because can you play it on your phone?
Speaker 1: Isn't there like a phone version? You can? There's a
Speaker 1: phone version, But the one I'm playing online is like
Speaker 1: a little bit different, okay, a little more nuanced, complicated,
Speaker 1: like the nerdiest thing you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 1: Like when you actually see it, you're like, I'm Napoleon.
Speaker 1: Is there any overall strategy you you bring to risk
Speaker 1: like any oh, yeah, like you favor that you think
Speaker 1: is underrated or is this just well it's like I
Speaker 1: think you have to be the problem with me is
Speaker 1: I'm not patient, so I'll just get annoyed and start
Speaker 1: like attacking people, you know, because I want to, And
Speaker 1: so I think patience is probably the best thing you
Speaker 1: can have. But right, is there like when you play
Speaker 1: online with people, is there ever like a thing where
Speaker 1: you know, like they're exposing themselves as like being shipped
Speaker 1: at the game or like someone you don't like playing
Speaker 1: with when they move a certainly, yeah, you can tell.
Speaker 1: It's funny because when I started, people get mad at
Speaker 1: me a lot, and I didn't know why. I Now
Speaker 1: that i'm playing more, I'm like, oh, I see right,
Speaker 1: because you can surrender if you can tell you're losing,
Speaker 1: and if you don't, if people are like what the
Speaker 1: funk are you doing? Just surrender? They get mad right
Speaker 1: right right, So it's like playing black jack and they're like,
Speaker 1: why are you hitting on seventeen? Just stop? And so
Speaker 1: it's funny because we get really pissed at you for
Speaker 1: you know, fucking around. It's really embarrassing. But I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: did you look like is this like a like a
Speaker 1: latter day Saints. I'm sorry that it was just rolling
Speaker 1: into that, but like a new found interest for you
Speaker 1: in life? Or were you like, were you like into
Speaker 1: risk as a kid? I mean I played with my
Speaker 1: friends a little bit, but not like that much. I
Speaker 1: only say I think it's like they're not drinking thing
Speaker 1: like I was just like, you know, I'm like, I've
Speaker 1: just spent my time to find something else to do,
Speaker 1: and I felt this possible thing. Yeah, it's one of
Speaker 1: the more it's it's definitely the healthier but way less
Speaker 1: cool ways that you can be addicted to risk. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm addicted to risk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'd just like to live my life on the edge
Speaker 1: risk aversion, not this, not this guy. It was bad
Speaker 1: that you're just playing risk. I get computer all night.
Speaker 1: I think it was way cooler when Babs just kept
Speaker 1: trying to push like those board ape n f T
Speaker 1: s on us. I'm sure my friends preferred it. If
Speaker 1: I was getting drunk instead of talking about this, well,
Speaker 1: then they're not your friends. Bad. Don't listen to them.
Speaker 1: They don't care about you. That's right. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated. Honestly, I feel like the Knives
Speaker 1: Out movies are over rated. It. I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 1: I really didn't like the first one that much. The
Speaker 1: second one was better, but like I can't do the
Speaker 1: accent that Daniel Craig's accent um. Yeah, over it, Okay.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're at a point where it's been
Speaker 1: brought down to a level of being rated appropriately. But
Speaker 1: it took some work. Yeah, I guess. I just feel
Speaker 1: like everyone was kind of freaking out about this last one,
Speaker 1: especially the first one. Everyone like kind of and I
Speaker 1: just don't. I guess the mystery is not good enough
Speaker 1: for me. Everyone really liked the first one. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was really hot and cold on the second one.
Speaker 1: A lot of people hated the second one. I know
Speaker 1: they did. I feel like I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: people like loving it so and I liked it, so
Speaker 1: I felt stupid for liking it. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work in therapy and I'm
Speaker 1: coming out and saying I liked glass On in the
Speaker 1: Knives Out Murder Mystery. That's great. I guess I just know.
Speaker 1: It's like I guess I'm just like, Okay, fine, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be something they're making forever. Now. I guess
Speaker 1: we're at least going to say one more days. If
Speaker 1: I didn't even see that, I fell asleep on a
Speaker 1: plane watching the first one. There's well, there's gonna be more.
Speaker 1: Am I missing something? Because I feel like everybody was
Speaker 1: so like turnked up for a glass onion at the
Speaker 1: end of the last year. That's what I mean. I
Speaker 1: don't know everyone's around people I knew. Yeah, I mean like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I guess it's one of
Speaker 1: those things like, hey, did you see it? Like I
Speaker 1: was at a like a Christmas party and like everybody
Speaker 1: was like, did you go see it? Oh? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's just that there's so many things that are
Speaker 1: murder mystery, murder mysteries now, so many TV shows, and
Speaker 1: like it's I feel like that that part of it
Speaker 1: it's hard to pull off to be really like intriguing
Speaker 1: and really like surprise me. So I think that that part,
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, it's gonna be that's tough to kind
Speaker 1: of make interesting, And that's kind of what I don't
Speaker 1: like about it. What's something you think is underrated? My cats,
Speaker 1: my cats are underrated. I think, yeah, what's your called?
Speaker 1: Cindy and Archie they're sitting right here. They're cool. Oh Cindy,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to shout shout out to them.
Speaker 1: How long you have a few years. Cindy's younger than Archie.
Speaker 1: He's a big boy. Oh okay, how many how many cans?
Speaker 1: How many cans? How many cans? This there was my
Speaker 1: friend cats sat for a cat that had two full
Speaker 1: cans of calf food per meal, so eight four cans
Speaker 1: of caffoo perponsely sh it, no, we don't get them
Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, and this this cat was like an abomination.
Speaker 1: I remember being like this is fucking abuse, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like if they're sometimes it's like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: This is like not good for the cats. They're like,
Speaker 1: well they just like to eat that much. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you are in charge of the of the giving of
Speaker 1: the food, and they like the cat was like d
Speaker 1: claude too, So like when it was like hungry, was
Speaker 1: just like back the door, like in this very percussive way,
Speaker 1: but there were no clause and like this is like
Speaker 1: has tor you're just spelled Oh no, there's nothing worse
Speaker 1: than like being around people who were kind of like
Speaker 1: not the pets will or nothing worse than that. There's
Speaker 1: nothing worse. The worst thing on earth, thank you, is
Speaker 1: someone who buys a dog from a puppy mill. Next anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just shout out to them. They're cool, they support me.
Speaker 1: Are they named for anything? In Particulardy's named after Cindy
Speaker 1: Crawford because she has a little mole right there, and
Speaker 1: she's a little model, and Archie's a redhead, so I
Speaker 1: named him after Archie Comics. Okay, I'm a little weird.
Speaker 1: My first crush was Sidney Crawford because I'm a freak. Okay, whoa.
Speaker 1: That's was very pretty. Yeah, and that was before the
Speaker 1: diet coke? Was she just straight up like she was
Speaker 1: claiming she drank full or pepsi, but she was definitely pepsi. Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, yeah, calm yeah, I was definitely. I
Speaker 1: was all nine. Oh yeah, that was a cut off shorts. Wow,
Speaker 1: she's drinking a soda by a convertible sugar pepsi pepsi.
Speaker 1: She didn't she had a spit bucket right next to her. No, no,
Speaker 1: not my Queen Cindy. She downed every single can, every take.
Speaker 1: That was what a time when people drank pepsi. You
Speaker 1: know it was I drank pepsi when I was like eight.
Speaker 1: I was remember coming back from like a baseball practice,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like the summer, and I was
Speaker 1: so thirsty and instead of drinking water, just drank like
Speaker 1: three cans. Of people do drink that when they're just thirsty.
Speaker 1: Like I find myselfthing that sometimes and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the funk am I doing there? I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that I remember it, like have a sense of memory
Speaker 1: of it. You know, it's a it's it works, you know,
Speaker 1: it's more even even stupider. So I think it lit
Speaker 1: up all the like cocaine sensors in my brain probably,
Speaker 1: you know. I didn't like when the bloods and crips
Speaker 1: like real like you know, gang war was real serious
Speaker 1: in l A. I was like at the time, I
Speaker 1: was always saying I was always looking at my clothes
Speaker 1: as a kid, even though I wasn't living near that ship.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh what about you? Like? What
Speaker 1: do I like? And in my mind, I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: a crip. I'm like I like blue. So then when
Speaker 1: pepsi when Pepsi came out in the Blue Camp, I
Speaker 1: was all over that ship because I was like, miss
Speaker 1: me with that fucking red kid, even though there was
Speaker 1: like a little bit of redom the Pepsi kid, I
Speaker 1: don't know why, and like that was driving my subconscious
Speaker 1: pushed towards Pepsi as a kid. And then very quickly
Speaker 1: I was like, this is whoa, that's fascinating. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I was just remembering that right now because in
Speaker 1: the picture of Cindy Crawford's like the old school red
Speaker 1: camp with like the blue and red on it. But
Speaker 1: then in my mind I was like, no, I was
Speaker 1: downing those blue cans, I remember, like a fucking fiend. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was all because of my perceived at least
Speaker 1: during a game. Boy, I hope that, Yeah, I hope
Speaker 1: fake immediences. Yeah. And then I think it's just more fashionable.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I guess Snoop is schoolboy queers are Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: uh talk about some dystopian ship. Oh god, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And the Massachusetts Democrats have come up with a cool
Speaker 1: way for prisoners to be released that is not dystopian
Speaker 1: or weird at ah. Come on, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to say this. You're going to know
Speaker 1: it's getting weird because I'm the First thing I'm starting
Speaker 1: off with is currently the laws around organ donation specific
Speaker 1: to incarcerated peoples is as follows. The Federal Bureau of
Speaker 1: Prison says that prisoners may donate their organs while incarcerated,
Speaker 1: but only two immediate family members in the state of
Speaker 1: Utah allowed organ donation from prisoners who died while being incarcerated.
Speaker 1: Most other states do not allow organ donations from prisoners
Speaker 1: at all. Enter the Massachusetts Democrats of their state legislature.
Speaker 1: They have just introduced a bill with five co sponsors
Speaker 1: that want to make this little change here. It says, quote,
Speaker 1: the bone marrow and organ Donation Program shall allow eligible
Speaker 1: incarcerated individuals to gain not less than sixty and not
Speaker 1: more than three not more than a three D sixty
Speaker 1: five day reduction in the length of their committed sentence
Speaker 1: in prison, on the condition that the incarcerated individual has
Speaker 1: donated bone, marrow or organs. So just treating the prison
Speaker 1: system god a body farm as a farm organs? Can
Speaker 1: you give without that? Like you can actually give a
Speaker 1: lot well, I mean if you die too, I mean,
Speaker 1: like a lot can be I mean, but that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If they're if they're making your sentence less,
Speaker 1: you have to obviously live, so yeah, narrow you could
Speaker 1: probably you know, you can don't and then like a kidney. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's not that saying, there's not you can't give
Speaker 1: a heart. I'm pretty sure one eyeball. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that's the thing to say. It's like so wild,
Speaker 1: right because it's essentially like, hey, disenfranchised person, now that
Speaker 1: you're here as a result of you know, you know,
Speaker 1: improper legal counsel, I want to knock a couple of
Speaker 1: months off your sentence by giving us your bone juice,
Speaker 1: give us your bones bones. Like so like when the
Speaker 1: you know, when people were asking the legislators who wrote
Speaker 1: this bill, like what is like what huh why they're
Speaker 1: they're pointing to the disparity and availability for bipop patients
Speaker 1: in need of a bone marrow or organ transplant. So
Speaker 1: that's the justification that they're giving for something Like many
Speaker 1: people say this program is on its face, legally dubious
Speaker 1: and unethical as fuck, but like democrats don't even have
Speaker 1: the fucking imagination to think of a solution beyond to
Speaker 1: take the prisoners bodies. Like if there's a disparity and
Speaker 1: a lack of like access, address that, right. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that you're your first thought when you hear that
Speaker 1: there is a like disparity or like a lack of
Speaker 1: availability for bipop patients is like, well, you know where
Speaker 1: there are a lot of bipop people, and you know
Speaker 1: they're like and you know what, they're probably pretty motivated
Speaker 1: to give up some of that sweet, sweet organ meat.
Speaker 1: And like one of the legislators he actually said that
Speaker 1: he was was thinking of his friend who was like
Speaker 1: in need of a didn't and couldn't get it and
Speaker 1: was having to go through dialysis, and like that was
Speaker 1: this guy's lightbulb moment. I do want to see this
Speaker 1: like Freaky Friday movie though, where they give the guy
Speaker 1: this kidney and then he like starts living the life
Speaker 1: of the guys in jail and has to you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it's just so wild that for these people,
Speaker 1: they're like, well, coercion is better, is basically easier than
Speaker 1: tackling a systemic issue, Like when it comes down to yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just such a painfully like obvious depiction
Speaker 1: on how like even democrats like how how they're thinking
Speaker 1: works when they're trying to make the country a better
Speaker 1: place or more equitable, which is like, well these people
Speaker 1: like a fucking like they're in jail man. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: give him a like give him an organ coupon so
Speaker 1: they can leave early. That it's just so fucked up.
Speaker 1: That is, like you said, it's so dystopian. Yea, it
Speaker 1: should just be we need to address this disparity, like
Speaker 1: there's we have terrible health outcomes. Maybe go after why
Speaker 1: people in need of like increased treatments and things like that,
Speaker 1: rather than where are there some brown bodies lying around
Speaker 1: you have like ticking hearts. Yeah, it's the technocrat like
Speaker 1: version of things, like there's always going to be a
Speaker 1: smart solution. We're smart and we'll just use our smarts too.
Speaker 1: Smart up a solution that takes a little resource from
Speaker 1: here and puts a resource there without like addressing the
Speaker 1: overall systemic inequality that's happening. That's cut that's made things
Speaker 1: so fucked Also, why aren't they aren't people allowed to
Speaker 1: donate their organs? Like if they're incarcerated. It's just it's
Speaker 1: such a weird in the first place. If you were
Speaker 1: like on your card when you you know, if you die,
Speaker 1: you're like, I want my organs donated. They're not even
Speaker 1: allowed to say yes to that. I think I think
Speaker 1: it probably is to prevent something like this, where because
Speaker 1: they are human beings who have very little rights, right
Speaker 1: they and like by definition have very little rights, like
Speaker 1: they could easily be taken advantage of. So I'm assuming
Speaker 1: they have the law in place to be like and
Speaker 1: we we recognize that, well, it's also illegal. That's the
Speaker 1: thing is that you can't there's no like the the
Speaker 1: Organ Transplant Act makes it a crime to quote knowingly acquire, receiver,
Speaker 1: or otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for
Speaker 1: use in human transplantation. So like there's I'm sure there's that.
Speaker 1: That's why it gets a little murky when you deal
Speaker 1: with incarcerated people and like what they are consenting to
Speaker 1: are not And then other people point to also like
Speaker 1: just the health disparities that are are in prison populations,
Speaker 1: like people dealing with like hepatitis or like HIV, AIDS
Speaker 1: and things like that, Like there's also issues within the
Speaker 1: prison system where people aren't getting proper treatment for just
Speaker 1: in general, like being healthy. In the pros and cons
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, but they have diseases, so never mind,
Speaker 1: instead of like they shouldn't have diseases, guys, this is
Speaker 1: a fucking another reason why. It's like, yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: taking care of the root problem, and this makes no sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I mean, and and the other thing too,
Speaker 1: is like, you know, suppose someone is so desperate right
Speaker 1: to like get out, to like be free, they give
Speaker 1: up an organ that a relative may have needed down
Speaker 1: the road, and they're like, I fucking gave mine up
Speaker 1: because they fuck you know what I mean, Like like
Speaker 1: just this is it's just so fucking complicated, but also
Speaker 1: just so immoral, and like the idea that like even
Speaker 1: trying and evoke like this lack of access to make
Speaker 1: this like a reasonable rational thing to suggest just fucking
Speaker 1: blows my mind when it could just be oh, there's
Speaker 1: a problem with equity and access for BIPOC people in
Speaker 1: the medicals base, because we've known about this forever, but
Speaker 1: they're also we've also known about like this you know,
Speaker 1: trend not trend, but tradition of experimenting on black and
Speaker 1: brown bodies in this country, especially in like people that
Speaker 1: are incarcerated or otherwise. There's no there's nothing about this
Speaker 1: that is like a departure from like America's worst habits
Speaker 1: or like impulses or instincts. Yea. The most like neo
Speaker 1: libbrain thing I heard prior to this was Maddie Glaziers,
Speaker 1: did you see like in response to the Tyree Nichols video,
Speaker 1: was like, we should do a Police for America program
Speaker 1: where we have like students from the best universities volunteered
Speaker 1: to be parts of the police force, like we did
Speaker 1: for Teach for America. Like that we fixed the problem
Speaker 1: by like just harvard ing up the police force a
Speaker 1: little bit. Is just like these motherfucker's there. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no one ye no, well au,
Speaker 1: no one's willing to admit it's a failure, right, you know.
Speaker 1: That's if you can then you can start over. But
Speaker 1: if policing isn't a failure, if the cartial system isn't
Speaker 1: a failure, then it's all about it's all about amending it.
Speaker 1: It's all about yeah, rather than like, yo, this ship
Speaker 1: is a fucking shining L in our faces. And it's
Speaker 1: a failure. And we we talked the other day about
Speaker 1: just how little crimes police are even able to solve.
Speaker 1: But like we're we still love live under this presumption
Speaker 1: that like that's what they're there for, to keep us safe.
Speaker 1: And rather than being like no, the statistics to me
Speaker 1: seems like this is a failure. Like this this way
Speaker 1: of trying to you know, keep people safe as an
Speaker 1: actual failure. But we're not, you know, there's not a
Speaker 1: critical matter. Like you said, a shining L. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what they should see, Like that should just
Speaker 1: be placed in front, placed on everyone's like doorstep that
Speaker 1: keeps thinking this is going like the system. We should
Speaker 1: use an actual shining L to be like this is
Speaker 1: a it's a lot, we fucked up. Let's start over.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be like mad at the police,
Speaker 1: but just admit that this ship is the failure. We
Speaker 1: gotta move on. Put that energy now into whatever this.
Speaker 1: You know, a better way to support people is because
Speaker 1: brute squatting it well, we gotta we gotta always just
Speaker 1: really pay attention and savor each shining L that comes
Speaker 1: from the cars raal system because they're few and far betwell, wait,
Speaker 1: here goes another one, Florida's Wheel of Fugitive. A Florida
Speaker 1: sheriff is being sued for defamation to the tune of
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars by a man who is featured on
Speaker 1: Wheel of Fugitive. What is it? You're wondering? Where the
Speaker 1: fun the Wheel of Fugitive is. It's the worst game
Speaker 1: show that you could imagine. It's Breved County Police Department
Speaker 1: Sheriff Wayne Ivy spinds a wheel depicting mug shots of
Speaker 1: supposedly wanted criminals. The winner is then urged to do
Speaker 1: the right thing and turn themselves in or else the
Speaker 1: viewing blick will take matters into their own hands. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the sheriff, by the way, is also like a
Speaker 1: big fan of like arming citizens and people like doing
Speaker 1: citizens arrests and ships, which are by the way legal
Speaker 1: in Florida. Citizens. Rest Here, we're gonna play a little
Speaker 1: clip of fugitive is just do this is not real?
Speaker 1: I can't go on. Oh my god, all right, piece
Speaker 1: o W. I'm Sheriff White Ivy, the Bravark town and
Speaker 1: sheriff's officer. You know they had the runner. Everyone's considered
Speaker 1: innocent until proven, I know at the lower third, like
Speaker 1: running a chiron. That's like your fucking rights. That's so
Speaker 1: subjects identified and disgusting. This are they going to be
Speaker 1: like are just running a scroll at the bottoms like
Speaker 1: these people are guilty guilty right remains. Anything you say,
Speaker 1: cannon will be using getting like my rights are now
Speaker 1: coming in the form of a lower third as anybody else.
Speaker 1: Let's see who our future above the week is here
Speaker 1: in Bavark County. This is so insane. Speed up the wheel,
Speaker 1: will you? This is like I feel like I'm at
Speaker 1: a church carnival right now. Alright, folks, there's our future
Speaker 1: above the week, white female data birth twelve five. This
Speaker 1: ship is fucking what Then they just show this person's face,
Speaker 1: their data birth, all this other ship because also it's
Speaker 1: what does it have to do with wheel fortune? It's
Speaker 1: just exactly right, are you buying a letter? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not doing anything. They're just spinning a fucking wheel. And
Speaker 1: then they're just saying, here are all the people. By
Speaker 1: the way, here's everyone's names, but this specific person you
Speaker 1: should arrest if you see them on the street. You
Speaker 1: should approach this person like this is so insane. I
Speaker 1: can't believe this is real. Yeah, so the little disclaimer
Speaker 1: at the bottom is like, hey, we're not saying they're guilty,
Speaker 1: We're just saying that they are wanted at the time
Speaker 1: of this that this wheel, Except that's not even true.
Speaker 1: Like so this person basically sued him because at the
Speaker 1: time that they recorded it, he was already in prison.
Speaker 1: And then it he like goes on this viral video
Speaker 1: that this motherfucker is making and like can't get a job,
Speaker 1: Like he got let go of by his job because
Speaker 1: somebody saw him on this like video that this. It
Speaker 1: was like on the way he was first day of
Speaker 1: work and he gets a call thing, sorry saw you
Speaker 1: on this Like this, this guy is real piece of work.
Speaker 1: He routinely urged the public to arm themselves should terrorists
Speaker 1: invade or Land. I guess ragging that he's one of
Speaker 1: the most politically incorrect sheriffs in the country. Blamed the
Speaker 1: victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting for not fighting back
Speaker 1: hard enough against their attacker. And yeah, it is now
Speaker 1: urging random people in the street to scour the street
Speaker 1: first so called fugitives, because again in Florida, you can
Speaker 1: citizen to rest someone, which is you know, so he's
Speaker 1: like he he so he was probably salty when like
Speaker 1: Sheriff Joe R. Pyle was getting all the fucking oxygen
Speaker 1: in Arizona, or he was inspired by him like that.
Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna do it better by having a
Speaker 1: completely just debase myself at every opportunity and show that
Speaker 1: I have no soul whatsoever. Yeah, okay, anyway, so this
Speaker 1: person running that shafs depart. But I think like putting
Speaker 1: their picture on the wheel and just like spinning it
Speaker 1: is also like it plays into the cruelty of it all,
Speaker 1: Like it's like debasing to just have these like herassing
Speaker 1: mug shots on on there, like people at their lowest
Speaker 1: moment and then just like spinning them around, like like
Speaker 1: toying with their fate and their their lives in a
Speaker 1: way that you know, it's just it is dumber and
Speaker 1: more evil than the society and RoboCop. It's truly just
Speaker 1: so extreme. Yeah. And by the way, A and E
Speaker 1: was in talks with this motherfucker to bring Wheel of
Speaker 1: Fugitive to national television at some point, weren't they wasn't
Speaker 1: any doing like cops Live and Ship too, probably like
Speaker 1: that that they had to take down. Yeah, Live p
Speaker 1: D Live p D was. And also like at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this Wheel of Future thing, they show each
Speaker 1: person individually, so it's like they're still telling them to
Speaker 1: go after everybody, you know what I mean, because since
Speaker 1: there there, they're all on there, they say everyone's full name,
Speaker 1: they show their picture, so they make sure to show
Speaker 1: you every single person on there before are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is who we're gonna zero in on. But it's
Speaker 1: obvious that they're just like or screenshot this Facebook video
Speaker 1: and you can look at all of them exactly if
Speaker 1: you so please. Yeah, what would this TV show even be?
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, just it doesn't matter. I guess there
Speaker 1: are teams higher production value, Babs. We saw it the
Speaker 1: guys on a shitty green screen. The wheel could be
Speaker 1: digital or something. We can do more augmented reality stuff
Speaker 1: and a R A R kind of thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's all it would do is just bring more
Speaker 1: fucking shine. Yeah, Like I would have that like remember
Speaker 1: when CNN had the hologram like the yeah, holographic like
Speaker 1: versions of the people for like the election, Like they
Speaker 1: would just have like the mug shot rendered in three
Speaker 1: D and like you like in studio with I just imagining.
Speaker 1: And also the people on the show would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're the worst people you can think of that want
Speaker 1: to be on a reality TV show. Now let's have
Speaker 1: them go out and arround to people, right yeah, and
Speaker 1: then we get footage of like people just going out
Speaker 1: and trying to make it, make it that that's what
Speaker 1: it would be, right Like, it would definitely just be
Speaker 1: citizens like hunting people down doing their best Tommy Lee
Speaker 1: Jones impression R. A analysis of nearly a year's worth
Speaker 1: of episodes of Wheel of Fugitive found that nearly one
Speaker 1: third of the four forty eight people featured in those
Speaker 1: episodes were not fugitives. So just like, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like the local news, just a video designed to make
Speaker 1: society around you seem scarier than it actually is and
Speaker 1: make it seem like you're like surrounded. But they couldn't
Speaker 1: even like fill out a wheel with enough fugitives, So yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't. There weren't enough fugitives for them to do it.
Speaker 1: So that's on the that's on the production team for
Speaker 1: having you know, making less options on the wheel to yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, for the number of menu options for
Speaker 1: people you can pick off because they're fugitives. Wow, well
Speaker 1: it's a I mean yeah, the A and E version
Speaker 1: would probably be fucking demonic. Click. We have full three
Speaker 1: D renderings of people on an actual wheel, and then
Speaker 1: he throws a knife and the one that hits on
Speaker 1: the hologram board is the one that's selected. I hope
Speaker 1: this guy wins this lawsuit. This fucking yeah. I mean.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that, like they're going, I think
Speaker 1: the probably conscious gamble they're making is that the people
Speaker 1: they're slandering will never be able to stand up for
Speaker 1: themselves and like jokes about the amish kind of thing, Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: they you know, and in most cases, like one third
Speaker 1: of foight, I'm not great at math, but that's over
Speaker 1: a hundred people you know, didn't didn't catch the like
Speaker 1: had happened to them, or that it was like secretly
Speaker 1: out there like ruining their job prospects. But what one
Speaker 1: person did. But you know, it's probably a pretty pretty
Speaker 1: safe gamble. You know that those budgets could be going
Speaker 1: to something else, Yeah, you know, then buying the sheriff
Speaker 1: of fucking a v setup so you could do green
Speaker 1: screen graphics. I got some crazy idea, man. Yeah, have
Speaker 1: you ever seen Wheel of Fortune? Yeah? Well I haven't,
Speaker 1: but I figured there's got to be something where you
Speaker 1: spin a wheel the words no words, no words, there's
Speaker 1: nothing spelling at all, because I can't even spell the
Speaker 1: fucking I can't even spell fugitive, right, man, will of
Speaker 1: the fugitive? That fucking sound like someone had they had
Speaker 1: to record that. Yeah, that multiple people, the space yelling
Speaker 1: out wheel of Fugitive. I can just see it, like
Speaker 1: it's like the We Are the World video. A lot
Speaker 1: of these fucking backwards people who are like so into like, well,
Speaker 1: oh ugitive? Was that good? Phil? All right? And Ivy
Speaker 1: like comes in and he's like no again. It's like
Speaker 1: the Quincy Jones of it. Yeah, I want to hear
Speaker 1: your teeth, nash In. Yeah, so true piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick and very real thing, true pieces
Speaker 1: of ship and a very real thing. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back with more pieces of ship. Oh for breakfast and
Speaker 1: we're back and Dr Phil m hmmmm, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh Dr Phil. Also just like we just started with
Speaker 1: an exasperated mention of it, and we all just kind
Speaker 1: of let that say, the comparisonive of Tommy Lee Jones
Speaker 1: and how cool he is in the movie The Fugitive,
Speaker 1: and how open he is to like what like what
Speaker 1: you know, often like being wrong, and just that compared
Speaker 1: to the real cops that we have. That's how you're
Speaker 1: like told cops were Yeah, this is this is the thoughtful.
Speaker 1: If they had to kill a guy, it's because they
Speaker 1: thought about it deeply. It's part of the character. I
Speaker 1: didn't arrive at this moment lightly. He says he doesn't
Speaker 1: care if he killed his wife, but he actually does,
Speaker 1: and that's what's cool about him. All right. Dr Phil,
Speaker 1: who as we've mentioned before, is not a licensed psychologist,
Speaker 1: is ending his show in which he's acted as if
Speaker 1: he's a licensed psychologist for twenty one seasons, so you know,
Speaker 1: breathe a sigh of relief, except it's not really ending.
Speaker 1: Reruns are gonna be syndicated with new wraparound material filmed
Speaker 1: with Dr Phil through at least the season. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they even like break those break this show into seasons
Speaker 1: like ours. Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I was like, this
Speaker 1: is I guess let's call it a season. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he has He also hosts two podcasts, is the producer
Speaker 1: of several other TV shows, and is now hinting at
Speaker 1: a new TV endeavor that will allow him to engage
Speaker 1: with a broader audience because I have grave concerns for
Speaker 1: the American family. This guy is such a fucking creep.
Speaker 1: Like I used to when it came out. I love
Speaker 1: the show because I had no empathy and I had
Speaker 1: no lived experience, and I like to show where I
Speaker 1: could laugh at people who are down and out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Dr Phil would be like, what hell like you're
Speaker 1: addicted that you're addicted to drugs because you're tormented childhood.
Speaker 1: Now I live in the real word phone and you're
Speaker 1: like if you're like yeah, And I'm like exactly. And
Speaker 1: it's like such a fucked up way to even portray
Speaker 1: like what help is or what a fucking therapy or
Speaker 1: a psychologist or any of that ship is because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you go and you can
Speaker 1: they point at you and laugh like is really what it?
Speaker 1: Or get or they gawk at you. I still I
Speaker 1: can't believe he's still on Like how I don't even
Speaker 1: know he was still on the air. How is this
Speaker 1: still going? Yeah? God, I wonder if there are people
Speaker 1: who are like I've not I don't want to try therapy.
Speaker 1: I've seen Dr Frenk, I know how that ship goes.
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be just you'd be surprised how many
Speaker 1: people come on the show and they say, Dr Phil,
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. I watched the show
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm enabling my child, like, and they
Speaker 1: was like, and I know that. And then they're like, well,
Speaker 1: then what are you doing? But are people you know,
Speaker 1: because they even tell Dr Phil like my life and shambles,
Speaker 1: I watch your show every day and I can I
Speaker 1: can say these buzzwords and I still can't get anything
Speaker 1: out of value from its, right. She was like, all right,
Speaker 1: well let me tell you in person. I live in
Speaker 1: the real world. I love as well. This is like
Speaker 1: a really fucked up episode that a lot of people
Speaker 1: were commenting on where there's this young woman who like
Speaker 1: was obsessed with this makeup artist on Instagram that she
Speaker 1: never met, and it was like insisting that like they
Speaker 1: were in a relationship when they weren't. And when she
Speaker 1: comes on the show, like Dr Phil is like just
Speaker 1: talks down to her the whole time and she had
Speaker 1: like a lot of trauma in her past, and he
Speaker 1: like lists it all like on a like on a
Speaker 1: fucking graphic and you're like, dude, this is really like
Speaker 1: to even write this ship out, it's like feels very
Speaker 1: fucked up. And then and then he'll do stuff where
Speaker 1: she'll be like, well, I don't want my mom my
Speaker 1: birth mother here, like we have no context for why
Speaker 1: she wouldn't want the birth mother. He's like, well, this
Speaker 1: is my show, so do you want to go? And
Speaker 1: she's like no, no, Dr Phil, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's what I thought, because I decide who's
Speaker 1: on my show. And you're like, what, You're not even
Speaker 1: helping this person. You don't live in the real world, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You have been like the weirdest little microcosm where you
Speaker 1: are like the god emperor who gets to determine everything
Speaker 1: and just like past judgment on people in a way
Speaker 1: that does not exist anywhere else like you are you
Speaker 1: are a sick fuck No, you're like an uber rich
Speaker 1: person who comes down out of their little tower to
Speaker 1: get to just yell at people. Oh, look's wrong with
Speaker 1: you fucking creeps? Man. I gotta go in my Bentley
Speaker 1: helicopter goodbye, like he really did. There's look, so I
Speaker 1: have this weird. I'll check in with the Doctor Phil
Speaker 1: episode every now and then because, like on YouTube, it'll
Speaker 1: have like the most salacious hook where you're like, this
Speaker 1: is not offering humanity to the subject of this episode
Speaker 1: at all, and it's like, you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: wild to me. So I look, there was just one
Speaker 1: like elderly woman who was like a terrible like a
Speaker 1: nightmarish grandma basically or mother in law. And come to
Speaker 1: find out, like he pulls out all this terrible all
Speaker 1: these terrible things that have happened to this one. And
Speaker 1: then if they get to the end of the episode
Speaker 1: and you think he's gonna offer her some kind of
Speaker 1: insight and goes, hey, so you know what this is
Speaker 1: MS suggestion for you? He say, you start going to therapy.
Speaker 1: You know why because you've got a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: messed up right now. And that's like, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it for and that's gonna do it this week
Speaker 1: for us folks check us out on Facebook dot com
Speaker 1: slash dr Phil. Like that's the like the end of
Speaker 1: an episode and you're like, this has no fucking value.
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, I hope he's doing that
Speaker 1: to everyone who comes on the show, right, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: does exactly, but it's so weird. But like even as
Speaker 1: a as an audio track therapy just because you're pretty
Speaker 1: messed up and you're like, that's not a thing to
Speaker 1: say to someone who needs therapy, like you says that
Speaker 1: needs to help and go because you're pretty fucked up.
Speaker 1: That's me. That's Dr Phil al right, folks in the
Speaker 1: plus it's on. I hope this didn't mess anything up
Speaker 1: for you. I feel like all of his power lies
Speaker 1: in his mustache. I feel like if we could get
Speaker 1: the mustache, he would be bereft. Yeah, he would not.
Speaker 1: He would look strange. I mean that mustache is conspicuous
Speaker 1: and like precisely where together Oh my god, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah he did drop. He looks like Rudy Giuliani's
Speaker 1: like Bully Brother without Yeah, his face just kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it. But okay. So he's
Speaker 1: also the creator and producer of multiple scripted dramas, concluding
Speaker 1: bull what like It. So had been on CBS, right,
Speaker 1: because I'd imagine like he's he's like just yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: It was. It was like an CBS nighttime scripted series.
Speaker 1: I remember there was like all sorts of problematic ship
Speaker 1: with like how the star was treating women co stars,
Speaker 1: but it was a drama, so I didn't quite get
Speaker 1: what it was. All it was like Bull is like
Speaker 1: takes no crap from anyone. He's just so like he's
Speaker 1: like a human lie detector who tells it like it is,
Speaker 1: and that is supposed to be inspired by the early
Speaker 1: career of Dr Phil mcgarraw. But he's a trial it's
Speaker 1: a trial consulting firm. Yeah, yeah, with with lawyers to
Speaker 1: be like I'll tell you how it is. He's like
Speaker 1: the trial science guys like you want, but you want
Speaker 1: a jury who thinks like this, who thinks these people
Speaker 1: aren't even human. That's how you get your That's how
Speaker 1: you can get your client off. Like it's that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff like this, you know, trial science. There's this
Speaker 1: interview where like people are asking him he the way
Speaker 1: he pats him his fucking self on the back is absurd.
Speaker 1: Like he was talking about this show like a Critics
Speaker 1: Choice or something panel, and he said the show was
Speaker 1: never he said, quote, it's not autobiography, autobiographical, it's just
Speaker 1: inspired by me. And then he goes on to say,
Speaker 1: I like the way the show tracks, how we did
Speaker 1: the right thing and tried to take the higher moral
Speaker 1: ground in these cases. We kept the moral compass. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the law doesn't always get it right. And oh, sir,
Speaker 1: oh so you're you're the person there to person turns out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it turns out you're like, and that's me something,
Speaker 1: the guy who knew more than the legal system. Shout
Speaker 1: Up Bull stars Michael Weatherly is Dr Jason Bull, a
Speaker 1: plus on the name, in a drama inspired by the
Speaker 1: early career of Dr Phil McGraw, the founder of one
Speaker 1: of the most prolific trial consulting firms of all time. Brilliant, brash,
Speaker 1: and charming, Dr Bull is the ultimate puppet master as
Speaker 1: he combines psychology, human intuition, and high tech data to
Speaker 1: learn what makes jurors, attorneys, witnesses, and the accused tick.
Speaker 1: I mean that guy seems like the ultimate puppet master.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, have you heard about his his
Speaker 1: onset behaviors? Oh yeah, yeah, Mike, Michael Weatherly, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, because I think this was when
Speaker 1: Eliza Douchku was on the show and he was like,
Speaker 1: this guy's making lewd comments and ship and that she
Speaker 1: settled with CBS for like nine and a half million.
Speaker 1: When he that was he was like part of the
Speaker 1: investigation and the CBS, which so cool. So that guy's
Speaker 1: playing Doctor Phills paralleled analogous character. But and then he
Speaker 1: also produced the show The Doctors, which I wasn't aware of,
Speaker 1: but I think it's like a daytime sort of chat show.
Speaker 1: It's basically like an offshoot of his Doctor philm with
Speaker 1: real doctors. He was like, what if the Doctor Show
Speaker 1: had real doctors? I was like, Dr Phil also made
Speaker 1: appearance back in the day when Brittany was put into
Speaker 1: her conservativeship. He showed up to the hospital that weekend.
Speaker 1: What's your take on him during that period? Was he like,
Speaker 1: do you think he was being opportunistic? Probably apparently he
Speaker 1: was like friends with the parents and that's why he
Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah, which makes a lot of sense the
Speaker 1: way he because you look at the way he treats
Speaker 1: younger people who are like struggling mentally. It's always this
Speaker 1: patronizing boomor ship, which is like, well, here's the deal, son,
Speaker 1: I got bills to pay, so I'll pay them. I
Speaker 1: don't care if I was in the Iraq War. Like
Speaker 1: you're like, what's just like what the fund is this?
Speaker 1: Like it's not even advice, but it's just always it's
Speaker 1: just so dismissive of everything, which makes that completely tracks
Speaker 1: now because they're probably looking for somebody who would like
Speaker 1: confirm that, like their worst urges are the correct one.
Speaker 1: We just need to imprison her, right exactly that basically
Speaker 1: what was going on. Yeah, I can get you lithium.
Speaker 1: You need lithium, I'll get you lithium. I have half
Speaker 1: my fortune tied up in those uh teenage camps where
Speaker 1: you kidnap your own child and send them to a
Speaker 1: wilderness camp and try and break down their personality. That's
Speaker 1: where most of my money at this time. Whatever you need,
Speaker 1: I also got. I got lauded in them too. They
Speaker 1: don't really like that. No, my god, I got. He's
Speaker 1: also the producer that show The Doctors, which was recently
Speaker 1: levied with a human rights complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment,
Speaker 1: and retaliation behind the scenes. Yeah, the New York State
Speaker 1: Division of Human Rights. In US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
Speaker 1: received a complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment, and retaliation.
Speaker 1: And like I said, basically, somebody was fired for suggesting
Speaker 1: that the show needed more diversity among the staff and guests,
Speaker 1: and they were informed of their being realised or their
Speaker 1: agent was informed of their being released by McGraw's son,
Speaker 1: Jay McGraw, who owns the show and Los Angeles based
Speaker 1: Stage twenty nine Productions. So I bet that's a cool
Speaker 1: place to work. Well, I live in the real world
Speaker 1: where people. So my son runs a studio that I
Speaker 1: bequeathed him based on made up stories about when I
Speaker 1: was a magical man who could tell jurors who was lying.
Speaker 1: I live in the real world, the real world. My
Speaker 1: son built this production production company from the top down.
Speaker 1: I will not be here to hear his name slandered.
Speaker 1: I live in the real world. I live in the world.
Speaker 1: It's fucking wild. And there's some really good, like cutting
Speaker 1: commentary videos on YouTube just pointing out like how at
Speaker 1: every turn he just he makes the absolute world like
Speaker 1: if you're actually trying to help someone or talk to
Speaker 1: them and not just make like salacious TV. I feel
Speaker 1: like he just to me has ultimate dad energy. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's because my dad slightly looks like him, but just yeah,
Speaker 1: that patronizing like for some reason people are just like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're telling me what to do, I must do it.
Speaker 1: I think it's really what's really dark about it is
Speaker 1: that like he because he's using like psychology speak and
Speaker 1: therapy speak, the presumption is that he's actually approaching this
Speaker 1: with some kind of empathy or Karen, because he goes
Speaker 1: Dr Phil, yeah exclusively, and you get there, he's like,
Speaker 1: I shut the funk up. You ain't arguing with me.
Speaker 1: I got on my fucking sid not today, motherfucker. I'm
Speaker 1: Dr Phil. You know the show Don't Stop for a hoe. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like that's his energy with these people, and it's like
Speaker 1: it's truly maddening when you like just kind of you
Speaker 1: kind of see like these people go on there like yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe this will help, and then at the end it's
Speaker 1: just like, well, you're messed up in all these ways
Speaker 1: and you need a dog and shout out to North
Speaker 1: Star Kennels who are gonna gift you your own up.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm down with this advice. You need a dog.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the best is when he'll he'll he'll hear
Speaker 1: all this complex ship and he just ends it with, Damn,
Speaker 1: you're pretty messed up. You need a therapy. North Star
Speaker 1: Kennels owned by the McGraw family and runs by teenage
Speaker 1: labor of teenagers we've kidnapped and put into Scared Straight
Speaker 1: Wilderness or what you do is, hey, is your team
Speaker 1: acting up, We'll send them to my north Star team
Speaker 1: camp where we'll get them right. But they're really just laborers.
Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that is the whole industry. But I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how much we're talking about on
Speaker 1: this show, but it's it's like they if you have
Speaker 1: a kid that's acting bad, like parents will reach out
Speaker 1: and basically do what Britney Spears appearance to just like
Speaker 1: get it off off your hands, kidnap them, take them away.
Speaker 1: There's tons of those. There's like, you know, pregnancy equivalent
Speaker 1: ones to Jesus, Yeah, that wilderness camp. That is a
Speaker 1: huge industry, Like I remember that one was growing up.
Speaker 1: I feel like Dr Phil's gotta be gott to be
Speaker 1: involved in yeah, because it is like just an extension
Speaker 1: of like your kid doesn't need like help, he needs
Speaker 1: to be fucking screamed at while he's shivering cold on
Speaker 1: the mountain side right to love. Yeah. Yeah, because here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I can't break the cycle I've been subjected
Speaker 1: to as a child, so all I can and I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to even confront that. So the solution is
Speaker 1: to brutalize them. Yeah that's hey, kids, they got it
Speaker 1: too easy, not for us in the real world where
Speaker 1: our parents had PTSD from World War Two and didn't
Speaker 1: have it figured out. Thank you, Thank Babs. Such a
Speaker 1: pleasure of having you as always. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff. You can follow me
Speaker 1: at Bab's Gray on Twitter and Instagram and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah I'm out there. I'm gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up this year, so follow me
Speaker 1: and find me coming to your town hopefully offer a
Speaker 1: dirty soda, you know. Yeah yeah, um and then yeah,
Speaker 1: Abstinence is my sobriety podcast. It comes out well every
Speaker 1: week sort of. And Lady to Lady is my comedy podcast,
Speaker 1: comes out every week on Wednesdays. Yeah, any surpris eyes
Speaker 1: is about abstinence or sobriety that, um, you know what
Speaker 1: sucks is my stand up is a lot better in that,
Speaker 1: Like you're just so clear on stage, and yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just like I'm very clear and like more just sharper
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I feel like I'm more
Speaker 1: tuned into the crowd. Like what was your what was
Speaker 1: your like pre stage regimen, Like I think like in
Speaker 1: the last year, I've kind of been having like a
Speaker 1: drink or two or been like getting you know, kind
Speaker 1: of like just been getting loose before my sets, and
Speaker 1: it was now, yeah, you take the stage kind of
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I've got something to say. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just kind of like to like loosen up. But I
Speaker 1: was like getting too loose and just not being sharp.
Speaker 1: And now I can see a huge difference, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so annoying. This is for me just like I
Speaker 1: see everything. Yes, I know all yeah, is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of media that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying social otherwise. I mean, I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say the Last of Us, Okay, that's not really that's
Speaker 1: you know, a TV show, get into it. I watched
Speaker 1: the whole video game, a video game I've never just
Speaker 1: watched before. I watched my boyfriend play it, and it
Speaker 1: was very good, and I'm like excited to see the show,
Speaker 1: which I was still expecting, Hey, you haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 1: I watched like the first few episodes. Okay, current it's great.
Speaker 1: Have you guys watched it. I'm banking them because I'm
Speaker 1: I really want my partner to watch. But like it's
Speaker 1: easier when a show like that we can just keep going. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's definitely one of those. But it's it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I played the game too, and I'm like
Speaker 1: if and based on everyone's like, you know, I slightly
Speaker 1: read how people are talking about each week. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, it's a heavy lift. Actually, one of one
Speaker 1: of my tweets that I was gonna do was at
Speaker 1: listen up nerds tweeted, you will not get me to
Speaker 1: watch The Walking Dead for people who still do, word,
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. But I am going to watch the ship
Speaker 1: out of that. Actually, yeah, I'm not over like zombie
Speaker 1: stuff yet, so I guess I'll always have zombies in
Speaker 1: my heart, you know, always. Yeah, it's a problem. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have whatever. You cannot donate your your organs of
Speaker 1: the zombies. You'll see, we'll see it'll be a Supreme
Speaker 1: Court case that's taking it all the way to the
Speaker 1: top Miles, Where can people find you? And what is
Speaker 1: a tweet or work of media you've been enjoying? Uh,
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also find me on Miles and Jack on mad Boost.
Speaker 1: These new episode just dropped and also for fiance. Uh,
Speaker 1: this might be my last episode before I go on
Speaker 1: parental leave. I think it's so close, like within the
Speaker 1: next two days versus yes, I'm to say that I'm
Speaker 1: distracted is an understatement, but I still you know, when
Speaker 1: I have the time, I'm coming back. But yeah, uh so,
Speaker 1: thank you for everybody for all your well wishes and
Speaker 1: your wonderful d m s and tweets and and and
Speaker 1: comments and stuff. I'm I'm I'm just I feel very
Speaker 1: loved and supported as I go into this, so it
Speaker 1: means a lot, And please continue to listen to the show.
Speaker 1: I will be back and I will be Daddy then
Speaker 1: and my takes will be who knows, where did you
Speaker 1: come back? I come back even Yeah, And I'm just
Speaker 1: like fully on some Dr Phil ship. I'm like Jack.
Speaker 1: I live in the real world and we're not worried
Speaker 1: about stuff like systemic way supremacy because we got bills
Speaker 1: to pay. A tweet I like is from uh at Gallant.
Speaker 1: Greg just tweeted, oh my god, I just got that
Speaker 1: tar is short for conduct or uh. In addition to
Speaker 1: the last of us tweet, I like to tweet from
Speaker 1: Lauren at Not a Big Jerk tweeted, what's a performance
Speaker 1: where the actor is so when he does the performance
Speaker 1: for that, it's no one to do. I think that
Speaker 1: is the last one. Now, I think we're good. You
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at
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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot note were like off
Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the song that we think you might
Speaker 1: enjoy Miles, what song do we think people might enjoyed? Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's uh, let's you know, it's Black History Month
Speaker 1: and I want to play this track one of my
Speaker 1: you know, favorite tracks from Eddie Kendricks when he left
Speaker 1: you know, he's on his solo ship left the Spreme
Speaker 1: and it's called My People Hold on and if you
Speaker 1: know Jay Dilla, you know he sampled this uh in
Speaker 1: Donuts on the track. People. Um, but the original track
Speaker 1: is just really dope and just a very you know,
Speaker 1: got great energy. So put this in your ears, Eddie Kennedy,
Speaker 1: my people. All right, Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a
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