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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy three,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of Dirt Like Guys production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, February second, black yest

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Speaker 1: three months. Yes, it is to two three, three three three.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it more like the dance halls three or three.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. That's you're from Europe and I'm from the

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Speaker 1: dance halls of Jamaica are from. But it's also National

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Speaker 1: Heavenly Hash Day, which I had I just so wold.

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Speaker 1: I had this ice cream flavor over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: it's fucking it has like everything else. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was another of these new fangled to drugs that you no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: kids are talking about, not like what I was trying

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Speaker 1: to make you do CB two earlier. But it's also

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Speaker 1: National Groundhog Day Optimist Day if you're an optimist. The

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Speaker 1: first thurs name it was ground hug Day. Yeah, National

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Speaker 1: Taker's hog Day. Okay, groundhog Day, how about that? Always

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Speaker 1: sneaks up on my ass, you know, and and and

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Speaker 1: every year I'm like, not this time, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have all of my groundhog Day plans ready to

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Speaker 1: go fucked it up again and my Phil Phil pun

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Speaker 1: base's im making I don't do for me. I feel

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Speaker 1: like when groundhog Day came out, my interesting groundhog Day

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's groundhog Day, and then that ship yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it fell off like two years later, and

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Speaker 1: I was like yeah, because also living in California like weather,

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Speaker 1: like winter as a foreign concept. So yeah, Miles, we

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Speaker 1: don't have a single day ground hug Day article in

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Speaker 1: today's episode we are gonna do. Look there there have

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Speaker 1: been like something like seven hundred punks or tawny pills

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Speaker 1: or something, so that that was the thing that always

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Speaker 1: blew in my mind. Yeah, they just were killing those

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Speaker 1: ye like what they go through five per shot. Just

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Speaker 1: it's swapping them out. I don't know why I think

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Speaker 1: that's funny. That's not funny. Be kind of animals. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien, a k. Jack O'Brien. Baby on

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Speaker 1: the tree top. When the wind blows, this booty will drop.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of my brain. Just that's what I

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Speaker 1: was thinking this morning. And I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host Mr Miles. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray. I'm still an expecting father. But let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something. I'm a k A my bond stronger.

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Speaker 1: Yes today, now that I change the water twice a day,

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Speaker 1: this moldy missing killing me no more? My bong stronger.

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Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, shout out to Britney Spears and Lockerron me

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Speaker 1: on the discord that a ka will be very appropriate.

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Speaker 1: We find out where guest is. Yeah, yeah, but also

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Speaker 1: I'm I am cleaning a bomb twice a day, are you?

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Speaker 1: Is that a new Is that a new practice? I

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Speaker 1: know that when we had a when I lived with

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Speaker 1: a Bomb as my like third roommate, that we were

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Speaker 1: very negligent when it came to keep our water changes.

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Speaker 1: We changed the water infrequently. It's like what you tell

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Speaker 1: your grant, Like you know when you visit your grandparents

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Speaker 1: and you tell them how you want your life to

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Speaker 1: be going and pretend that's how it's going when it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not cleaning that today. In my mind though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to get on that program. Yeah, well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a hilarious comedian, writer podcaster who you know from

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Speaker 1: Lady to lady you know from Brittney's Graham. But she

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Speaker 1: helped start the Free Brittany movement and her new podcast

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Speaker 1: Babstinents yea, her year of not drinking It's bads. No

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Speaker 1: one changes a bong water like, it doesn't help. It

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Speaker 1: just stays bong water. It's not even to help if

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Speaker 1: you changed it. Yeah, well it helps you keep your

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Speaker 1: ship clean and the flavor is nice. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that again, the it's like groundhog Day. Like when

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Speaker 1: I'm cleaning it, and then like three weeks later, I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what happened to that old thing? Groundhog Day? I feel

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Speaker 1: like that is like the one holiday that's not people

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Speaker 1: aren't leaning into. Yeah, like we didn't even know until now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to make it a thing, did you? Did

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Speaker 1: you care about groundhog Day? PABs? Well no, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think there really is the only reason that anyone

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, nope, nope, I'm gonna go back.

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Speaker 1: And has your year of living without booze like been

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Speaker 1: like a return to Salt Lake City because Salt Lake City, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Salt Like itself is like kind of boozy if

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Speaker 1: feel like a return to like I didn't drink it

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Speaker 1: gotta be tough. If I cannot drink here. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah that's Have you had any dirty

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Speaker 1: dirty sodas since since stuff? Oh yeah, those dirty sodas? Um?

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Speaker 1: I did. I tried pilk. I will say, how was it? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course. What do you think? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about I think we have a theme today

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Speaker 1: that is that we live in the dystopian future of

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Speaker 1: eighties movies. It's it's just it's so much dumber than

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Speaker 1: than robo copn Yes, so we'll talk about that. Dr

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Speaker 1: Dr Like a version of Dr Phil that he was

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Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is reeling about

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Speaker 1: who you are? Oh my god, you know what I

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Speaker 1: addicted to this is so embarrassing because I was making

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Speaker 1: people playing fantasy people but I'm addicted to playing Risk online.

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Speaker 1: so I can't play it. So it's very it's bad

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Speaker 1: phone version, But the one I'm playing online is like

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Speaker 1: Like when you actually see it, you're like, I'm Napoleon.

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Speaker 1: Is there any overall strategy you you bring to risk

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Speaker 1: risk as a kid? I mean I played with my

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Speaker 1: the more it's it's definitely the healthier but way less

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Speaker 1: cool ways that you can be addicted to risk. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm addicted to risk, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'd just like to live my life on the edge

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Speaker 1: I think it was way cooler when Babs just kept

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Speaker 1: you think is overrated. Honestly, I feel like the Knives

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Speaker 1: are not And then other people point to also like

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00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: just the health disparities that are are in prison populations,

423
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: like people dealing with like hepatitis or like HIV, AIDS

424
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: and things like that, Like there's also issues within the

425
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: prison system where people aren't getting proper treatment for just

426
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: in general, like being healthy. In the pros and cons

427
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, but they have diseases, so never mind,

428
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: instead of like they shouldn't have diseases, guys, this is

429
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: a fucking another reason why. It's like, yeah, they're not

430
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: taking care of the root problem, and this makes no sense. Yeah,

431
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: it's just like I mean, and and the other thing too,

432
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: is like, you know, suppose someone is so desperate right

433
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: to like get out, to like be free, they give

434
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: up an organ that a relative may have needed down

435
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: the road, and they're like, I fucking gave mine up

436
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: because they fuck you know what I mean, Like like

437
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: just this is it's just so fucking complicated, but also

438
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: just so immoral, and like the idea that like even

439
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: trying and evoke like this lack of access to make

440
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: this like a reasonable rational thing to suggest just fucking

441
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: blows my mind when it could just be oh, there's

442
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: a problem with equity and access for BIPOC people in

443
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: the medicals base, because we've known about this forever, but

444
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: they're also we've also known about like this you know,

445
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: trend not trend, but tradition of experimenting on black and

446
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: brown bodies in this country, especially in like people that

447
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: are incarcerated or otherwise. There's no there's nothing about this

448
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: that is like a departure from like America's worst habits

449
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: or like impulses or instincts. Yea. The most like neo

450
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: libbrain thing I heard prior to this was Maddie Glaziers,

451
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: did you see like in response to the Tyree Nichols video,

452
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: was like, we should do a Police for America program

453
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: where we have like students from the best universities volunteered

454
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: to be parts of the police force, like we did

455
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: for Teach for America. Like that we fixed the problem

456
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: by like just harvard ing up the police force a

457
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: little bit. Is just like these motherfucker's there. It's yeah,

458
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no one ye no, well au,

459
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: no one's willing to admit it's a failure, right, you know.

460
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: That's if you can then you can start over. But

461
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: if policing isn't a failure, if the cartial system isn't

462
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: a failure, then it's all about it's all about amending it.

463
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: It's all about yeah, rather than like, yo, this ship

464
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: is a fucking shining L in our faces. And it's

465
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: a failure. And we we talked the other day about

466
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: just how little crimes police are even able to solve.

467
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: But like we're we still love live under this presumption

468
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: that like that's what they're there for, to keep us safe.

469
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: And rather than being like no, the statistics to me

470
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: seems like this is a failure. Like this this way

471
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: of trying to you know, keep people safe as an

472
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: actual failure. But we're not, you know, there's not a

473
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: critical matter. Like you said, a shining L. I feel

474
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: like that's what they should see, Like that should just

475
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: be placed in front, placed on everyone's like doorstep that

476
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: keeps thinking this is going like the system. We should

477
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: use an actual shining L to be like this is

478
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: a it's a lot, we fucked up. Let's start over.

479
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to be like mad at the police,

480
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: but just admit that this ship is the failure. We

481
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: gotta move on. Put that energy now into whatever this.

482
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: You know, a better way to support people is because

483
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: brute squatting it well, we gotta we gotta always just

484
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: really pay attention and savor each shining L that comes

485
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: from the cars raal system because they're few and far betwell, wait,

486
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: here goes another one, Florida's Wheel of Fugitive. A Florida

487
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: sheriff is being sued for defamation to the tune of

488
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars by a man who is featured on

489
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: Wheel of Fugitive. What is it? You're wondering? Where the

490
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: fun the Wheel of Fugitive is. It's the worst game

491
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: show that you could imagine. It's Breved County Police Department

492
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Sheriff Wayne Ivy spinds a wheel depicting mug shots of

493
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: supposedly wanted criminals. The winner is then urged to do

494
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the right thing and turn themselves in or else the

495
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: viewing blick will take matters into their own hands. Uh.

496
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: And the sheriff, by the way, is also like a

497
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: big fan of like arming citizens and people like doing

498
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: citizens arrests and ships, which are by the way legal

499
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: in Florida. Citizens. Rest Here, we're gonna play a little

500
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: clip of fugitive is just do this is not real?

501
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't go on. Oh my god, all right, piece

502
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: o W. I'm Sheriff White Ivy, the Bravark town and

503
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: sheriff's officer. You know they had the runner. Everyone's considered

504
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: innocent until proven, I know at the lower third, like

505
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: running a chiron. That's like your fucking rights. That's so

506
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: subjects identified and disgusting. This are they going to be

507
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: like are just running a scroll at the bottoms like

508
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: these people are guilty guilty right remains. Anything you say,

509
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: cannon will be using getting like my rights are now

510
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: coming in the form of a lower third as anybody else.

511
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Let's see who our future above the week is here

512
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: in Bavark County. This is so insane. Speed up the wheel,

513
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: will you? This is like I feel like I'm at

514
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: a church carnival right now. Alright, folks, there's our future

515
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: above the week, white female data birth twelve five. This

516
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: ship is fucking what Then they just show this person's face,

517
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: their data birth, all this other ship because also it's

518
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: what does it have to do with wheel fortune? It's

519
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: just exactly right, are you buying a letter? Yeah, you're

520
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: not doing anything. They're just spinning a fucking wheel. And

521
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: then they're just saying, here are all the people. By

522
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: the way, here's everyone's names, but this specific person you

523
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: should arrest if you see them on the street. You

524
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: should approach this person like this is so insane. I

525
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: can't believe this is real. Yeah, so the little disclaimer

526
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: at the bottom is like, hey, we're not saying they're guilty,

527
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: We're just saying that they are wanted at the time

528
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: of this that this wheel, Except that's not even true.

529
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Like so this person basically sued him because at the

530
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: time that they recorded it, he was already in prison.

531
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: And then it he like goes on this viral video

532
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that this motherfucker is making and like can't get a job,

533
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: Like he got let go of by his job because

534
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: somebody saw him on this like video that this. It

535
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: was like on the way he was first day of

536
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: work and he gets a call thing, sorry saw you

537
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: on this Like this, this guy is real piece of work.

538
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: He routinely urged the public to arm themselves should terrorists

539
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: invade or Land. I guess ragging that he's one of

540
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: the most politically incorrect sheriffs in the country. Blamed the

541
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting for not fighting back

542
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: hard enough against their attacker. And yeah, it is now

543
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: urging random people in the street to scour the street

544
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: first so called fugitives, because again in Florida, you can

545
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: citizen to rest someone, which is you know, so he's

546
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: like he he so he was probably salty when like

547
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Sheriff Joe R. Pyle was getting all the fucking oxygen

548
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: in Arizona, or he was inspired by him like that.

549
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna do it better by having a

550
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: completely just debase myself at every opportunity and show that

551
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I have no soul whatsoever. Yeah, okay, anyway, so this

552
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: person running that shafs depart. But I think like putting

553
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: their picture on the wheel and just like spinning it

554
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: is also like it plays into the cruelty of it all,

555
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like debasing to just have these like herassing

556
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: mug shots on on there, like people at their lowest

557
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: moment and then just like spinning them around, like like

558
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: toying with their fate and their their lives in a

559
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: way that you know, it's just it is dumber and

560
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: more evil than the society and RoboCop. It's truly just

561
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: so extreme. Yeah. And by the way, A and E

562
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: was in talks with this motherfucker to bring Wheel of

563
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Fugitive to national television at some point, weren't they wasn't

564
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: any doing like cops Live and Ship too, probably like

565
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: that that they had to take down. Yeah, Live p

566
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: D Live p D was. And also like at the

567
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: beginning of this Wheel of Future thing, they show each

568
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: person individually, so it's like they're still telling them to

569
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: go after everybody, you know what I mean, because since

570
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: there there, they're all on there, they say everyone's full name,

571
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: they show their picture, so they make sure to show

572
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: you every single person on there before are like, oh,

573
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: this is who we're gonna zero in on. But it's

574
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: obvious that they're just like or screenshot this Facebook video

575
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: and you can look at all of them exactly if

576
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: you so please. Yeah, what would this TV show even be?

577
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, just it doesn't matter. I guess there

578
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: are teams higher production value, Babs. We saw it the

579
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: guys on a shitty green screen. The wheel could be

580
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: digital or something. We can do more augmented reality stuff

581
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: and a R A R kind of thing. Yeah, I

582
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: think that's all it would do is just bring more

583
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: fucking shine. Yeah, Like I would have that like remember

584
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: when CNN had the hologram like the yeah, holographic like

585
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: versions of the people for like the election, Like they

586
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: would just have like the mug shot rendered in three

587
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: D and like you like in studio with I just imagining.

588
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: And also the people on the show would be like, oh,

589
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: we're the worst people you can think of that want

590
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: to be on a reality TV show. Now let's have

591
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: them go out and arround to people, right yeah, and

592
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: then we get footage of like people just going out

593
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: and trying to make it, make it that that's what

594
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: it would be, right Like, it would definitely just be

595
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: citizens like hunting people down doing their best Tommy Lee

596
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: Jones impression R. A analysis of nearly a year's worth

597
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: of episodes of Wheel of Fugitive found that nearly one

598
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: third of the four forty eight people featured in those

599
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: episodes were not fugitives. So just like, I mean, it's

600
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: like the local news, just a video designed to make

601
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: society around you seem scarier than it actually is and

602
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: make it seem like you're like surrounded. But they couldn't

603
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: even like fill out a wheel with enough fugitives, So yeah,

604
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: they didn't. There weren't enough fugitives for them to do it.

605
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: So that's on the that's on the production team for

606
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: having you know, making less options on the wheel to yeah,

607
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, for the number of menu options for

608
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: people you can pick off because they're fugitives. Wow, well

609
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: it's a I mean yeah, the A and E version

610
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: would probably be fucking demonic. Click. We have full three

611
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: D renderings of people on an actual wheel, and then

612
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: he throws a knife and the one that hits on

613
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: the hologram board is the one that's selected. I hope

614
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: this guy wins this lawsuit. This fucking yeah. I mean.

615
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: The other thing is that, like they're going, I think

616
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: the probably conscious gamble they're making is that the people

617
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: they're slandering will never be able to stand up for

618
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: themselves and like jokes about the amish kind of thing, Yeah, yeah, exactly,

619
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: they you know, and in most cases, like one third

620
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: of foight, I'm not great at math, but that's over

621
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: a hundred people you know, didn't didn't catch the like

622
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: had happened to them, or that it was like secretly

623
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: out there like ruining their job prospects. But what one

624
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: person did. But you know, it's probably a pretty pretty

625
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: safe gamble. You know that those budgets could be going

626
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: to something else, Yeah, you know, then buying the sheriff

627
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: of fucking a v setup so you could do green

628
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: screen graphics. I got some crazy idea, man. Yeah, have

629
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: you ever seen Wheel of Fortune? Yeah? Well I haven't,

630
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: but I figured there's got to be something where you

631
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: spin a wheel the words no words, no words, there's

632
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: nothing spelling at all, because I can't even spell the

633
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: fucking I can't even spell fugitive, right, man, will of

634
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Speaker 1: the fugitive? That fucking sound like someone had they had

635
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: to record that. Yeah, that multiple people, the space yelling

636
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: out wheel of Fugitive. I can just see it, like

637
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: it's like the We Are the World video. A lot

638
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: of these fucking backwards people who are like so into like, well,

639
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: oh ugitive? Was that good? Phil? All right? And Ivy

640
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: like comes in and he's like no again. It's like

641
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: the Quincy Jones of it. Yeah, I want to hear

642
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: your teeth, nash In. Yeah, so true piece of ship.

643
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick and very real thing, true pieces

644
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: of ship and a very real thing. We'll be right

645
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: back with more pieces of ship. Oh for breakfast and

646
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: we're back and Dr Phil m hmmmm, oh my god.

647
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh Dr Phil. Also just like we just started with

648
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: an exasperated mention of it, and we all just kind

649
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: of let that say, the comparisonive of Tommy Lee Jones

650
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: and how cool he is in the movie The Fugitive,

651
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and how open he is to like what like what

652
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, often like being wrong, and just that compared

653
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: to the real cops that we have. That's how you're

654
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: like told cops were Yeah, this is this is the thoughtful.

655
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: If they had to kill a guy, it's because they

656
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: thought about it deeply. It's part of the character. I

657
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: didn't arrive at this moment lightly. He says he doesn't

658
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: care if he killed his wife, but he actually does,

659
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and that's what's cool about him. All right. Dr Phil,

660
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: who as we've mentioned before, is not a licensed psychologist,

661
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: is ending his show in which he's acted as if

662
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: he's a licensed psychologist for twenty one seasons, so you know,

663
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: breathe a sigh of relief, except it's not really ending.

664
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Reruns are gonna be syndicated with new wraparound material filmed

665
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: with Dr Phil through at least the season. I'm surprised

666
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: they even like break those break this show into seasons

667
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: like ours. Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I was like, this

668
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: is I guess let's call it a season. But yeah,

669
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: he has He also hosts two podcasts, is the producer

670
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: of several other TV shows, and is now hinting at

671
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: a new TV endeavor that will allow him to engage

672
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: with a broader audience because I have grave concerns for

673
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: the American family. This guy is such a fucking creep.

674
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: Like I used to when it came out. I love

675
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: the show because I had no empathy and I had

676
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: no lived experience, and I like to show where I

677
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: could laugh at people who are down and out. Yeah,

678
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: and Dr Phil would be like, what hell like you're

679
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: addicted that you're addicted to drugs because you're tormented childhood.

680
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Now I live in the real word phone and you're

681
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: like if you're like yeah, And I'm like exactly. And

682
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: it's like such a fucked up way to even portray

683
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: like what help is or what a fucking therapy or

684
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: a psychologist or any of that ship is because at

685
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you go and you can

686
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: they point at you and laugh like is really what it?

687
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Or get or they gawk at you. I still I

688
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: can't believe he's still on Like how I don't even

689
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: know he was still on the air. How is this

690
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: still going? Yeah? God, I wonder if there are people

691
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: who are like I've not I don't want to try therapy.

692
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: I've seen Dr Frenk, I know how that ship goes.

693
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be just you'd be surprised how many

694
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: people come on the show and they say, Dr Phil,

695
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. I watched the show

696
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm enabling my child, like, and they

697
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: was like, and I know that. And then they're like, well,

698
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: then what are you doing? But are people you know,

699
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: because they even tell Dr Phil like my life and shambles,

700
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I watch your show every day and I can I

701
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: can say these buzzwords and I still can't get anything

702
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: out of value from its, right. She was like, all right,

703
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: well let me tell you in person. I live in

704
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: the real world. I love as well. This is like

705
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: a really fucked up episode that a lot of people

706
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: were commenting on where there's this young woman who like

707
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: was obsessed with this makeup artist on Instagram that she

708
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: never met, and it was like insisting that like they

709
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: were in a relationship when they weren't. And when she

710
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: comes on the show, like Dr Phil is like just

711
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: talks down to her the whole time and she had

712
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of trauma in her past, and he

713
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: like lists it all like on a like on a

714
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: fucking graphic and you're like, dude, this is really like

715
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: to even write this ship out, it's like feels very

716
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: fucked up. And then and then he'll do stuff where

717
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: she'll be like, well, I don't want my mom my

718
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: birth mother here, like we have no context for why

719
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: she wouldn't want the birth mother. He's like, well, this

720
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: is my show, so do you want to go? And

721
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: she's like no, no, Dr Phil, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

722
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: He's like, that's what I thought, because I decide who's

723
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: on my show. And you're like, what, You're not even

724
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: helping this person. You don't live in the real world, motherfucker.

725
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: You have been like the weirdest little microcosm where you

726
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: are like the god emperor who gets to determine everything

727
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: and just like past judgment on people in a way

728
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: that does not exist anywhere else like you are you

729
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: are a sick fuck No, you're like an uber rich

730
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: person who comes down out of their little tower to

731
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: get to just yell at people. Oh, look's wrong with

732
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: you fucking creeps? Man. I gotta go in my Bentley

733
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: helicopter goodbye, like he really did. There's look, so I

734
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: have this weird. I'll check in with the Doctor Phil

735
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: episode every now and then because, like on YouTube, it'll

736
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: have like the most salacious hook where you're like, this

737
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: is not offering humanity to the subject of this episode

738
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: at all, and it's like, you know, it's like it's

739
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: wild to me. So I look, there was just one

740
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: like elderly woman who was like a terrible like a

741
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: nightmarish grandma basically or mother in law. And come to

742
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: find out, like he pulls out all this terrible all

743
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: these terrible things that have happened to this one. And

744
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: then if they get to the end of the episode

745
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: and you think he's gonna offer her some kind of

746
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: insight and goes, hey, so you know what this is

747
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: MS suggestion for you? He say, you start going to therapy.

748
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: You know why because you've got a lot of stuff

749
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: messed up right now. And that's like, and that's gonna

750
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: do it for and that's gonna do it this week

751
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: for us folks check us out on Facebook dot com

752
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: slash dr Phil. Like that's the like the end of

753
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: an episode and you're like, this has no fucking value.

754
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, I hope he's doing that

755
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: to everyone who comes on the show, right, Yeah, he

756
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: does exactly, but it's so weird. But like even as

757
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: a as an audio track therapy just because you're pretty

758
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: messed up and you're like, that's not a thing to

759
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: say to someone who needs therapy, like you says that

760
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: needs to help and go because you're pretty fucked up.

761
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: That's me. That's Dr Phil al right, folks in the

762
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: plus it's on. I hope this didn't mess anything up

763
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: for you. I feel like all of his power lies

764
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: in his mustache. I feel like if we could get

765
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: the mustache, he would be bereft. Yeah, he would not.

766
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: He would look strange. I mean that mustache is conspicuous

767
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: and like precisely where together Oh my god, no, yeah,

768
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah he did drop. He looks like Rudy Giuliani's

769
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: like Bully Brother without Yeah, his face just kind of yeah,

770
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it. But okay. So he's

771
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: also the creator and producer of multiple scripted dramas, concluding

772
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: bull what like It. So had been on CBS, right,

773
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: because I'd imagine like he's he's like just yeah, that's right.

774
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: It was. It was like an CBS nighttime scripted series.

775
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: I remember there was like all sorts of problematic ship

776
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: with like how the star was treating women co stars,

777
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: but it was a drama, so I didn't quite get

778
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: what it was. All it was like Bull is like

779
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: takes no crap from anyone. He's just so like he's

780
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: like a human lie detector who tells it like it is,

781
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: and that is supposed to be inspired by the early

782
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: career of Dr Phil mcgarraw. But he's a trial it's

783
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: a trial consulting firm. Yeah, yeah, with with lawyers to

784
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: be like I'll tell you how it is. He's like

785
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: the trial science guys like you want, but you want

786
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: a jury who thinks like this, who thinks these people

787
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: aren't even human. That's how you get your That's how

788
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: you can get your client off. Like it's that kind

789
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: of stuff like this, you know, trial science. There's this

790
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: interview where like people are asking him he the way

791
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: he pats him his fucking self on the back is absurd.

792
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Like he was talking about this show like a Critics

793
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Choice or something panel, and he said the show was

794
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: never he said, quote, it's not autobiography, autobiographical, it's just

795
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: inspired by me. And then he goes on to say,

796
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: I like the way the show tracks, how we did

797
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: the right thing and tried to take the higher moral

798
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: ground in these cases. We kept the moral compass. Sometimes

799
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: the law doesn't always get it right. And oh, sir,

800
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: oh so you're you're the person there to person turns out, Yeah,

801
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: so it turns out you're like, and that's me something,

802
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: the guy who knew more than the legal system. Shout

803
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: Up Bull stars Michael Weatherly is Dr Jason Bull, a

804
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: plus on the name, in a drama inspired by the

805
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: early career of Dr Phil McGraw, the founder of one

806
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: of the most prolific trial consulting firms of all time. Brilliant, brash,

807
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: and charming, Dr Bull is the ultimate puppet master as

808
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: he combines psychology, human intuition, and high tech data to

809
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: learn what makes jurors, attorneys, witnesses, and the accused tick.

810
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean that guy seems like the ultimate puppet master.

811
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, have you heard about his his

812
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: onset behaviors? Oh yeah, yeah, Mike, Michael Weatherly, Yeah yeah,

813
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, because I think this was when

814
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: Eliza Douchku was on the show and he was like,

815
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: this guy's making lewd comments and ship and that she

816
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: settled with CBS for like nine and a half million.

817
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: When he that was he was like part of the

818
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: investigation and the CBS, which so cool. So that guy's

819
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: playing Doctor Phills paralleled analogous character. But and then he

820
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: also produced the show The Doctors, which I wasn't aware of,

821
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: but I think it's like a daytime sort of chat show.

822
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: It's basically like an offshoot of his Doctor philm with

823
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: real doctors. He was like, what if the Doctor Show

824
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: had real doctors? I was like, Dr Phil also made

825
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: appearance back in the day when Brittany was put into

826
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: her conservativeship. He showed up to the hospital that weekend.

827
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: What's your take on him during that period? Was he like,

828
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: do you think he was being opportunistic? Probably apparently he

829
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: was like friends with the parents and that's why he

830
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah, which makes a lot of sense the

831
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: way he because you look at the way he treats

832
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: younger people who are like struggling mentally. It's always this

833
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: patronizing boomor ship, which is like, well, here's the deal, son,

834
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: I got bills to pay, so I'll pay them. I

835
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: don't care if I was in the Iraq War. Like

836
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: you're like, what's just like what the fund is this?

837
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: Like it's not even advice, but it's just always it's

838
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: just so dismissive of everything, which makes that completely tracks

839
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: now because they're probably looking for somebody who would like

840
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: confirm that, like their worst urges are the correct one.

841
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: We just need to imprison her, right exactly that basically

842
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: what was going on. Yeah, I can get you lithium.

843
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: You need lithium, I'll get you lithium. I have half

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Speaker 1: my fortune tied up in those uh teenage camps where

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Speaker 1: you kidnap your own child and send them to a

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Speaker 1: wilderness camp and try and break down their personality. That's

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Speaker 1: where most of my money at this time. Whatever you need,

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Speaker 1: I also got. I got lauded in them too. They

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Speaker 1: don't really like that. No, my god, I got. He's

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Speaker 1: also the producer that show The Doctors, which was recently

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Speaker 1: levied with a human rights complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment,

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Speaker 1: and retaliation behind the scenes. Yeah, the New York State

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Speaker 1: Division of Human Rights. In US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

854
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Speaker 1: received a complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment, and retaliation.

855
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Speaker 1: And like I said, basically, somebody was fired for suggesting

856
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Speaker 1: that the show needed more diversity among the staff and guests,

857
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Speaker 1: and they were informed of their being realised or their

858
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Speaker 1: agent was informed of their being released by McGraw's son,

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Speaker 1: Jay McGraw, who owns the show and Los Angeles based

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Speaker 1: Stage twenty nine Productions. So I bet that's a cool

861
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Speaker 1: place to work. Well, I live in the real world

862
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: where people. So my son runs a studio that I

863
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: bequeathed him based on made up stories about when I

864
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: was a magical man who could tell jurors who was lying.

865
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Speaker 1: I live in the real world, the real world. My

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Speaker 1: son built this production production company from the top down.

867
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Speaker 1: I will not be here to hear his name slandered.

868
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Speaker 1: I live in the real world. I live in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking wild. And there's some really good, like cutting

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Speaker 1: commentary videos on YouTube just pointing out like how at

871
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Speaker 1: every turn he just he makes the absolute world like

872
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Speaker 1: if you're actually trying to help someone or talk to

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Speaker 1: them and not just make like salacious TV. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he just to me has ultimate dad energy. Maybe

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00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: that's because my dad slightly looks like him, but just yeah,

876
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: that patronizing like for some reason people are just like, yeah, okay,

877
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: you're telling me what to do, I must do it.

878
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: I think it's really what's really dark about it is

879
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: that like he because he's using like psychology speak and

880
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: therapy speak, the presumption is that he's actually approaching this

881
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: with some kind of empathy or Karen, because he goes

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00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: Dr Phil, yeah exclusively, and you get there, he's like,

883
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Speaker 1: I shut the funk up. You ain't arguing with me.

884
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I got on my fucking sid not today, motherfucker. I'm

885
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: Dr Phil. You know the show Don't Stop for a hoe. Okay,

886
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: Like that's his energy with these people, and it's like

887
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: it's truly maddening when you like just kind of you

888
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: kind of see like these people go on there like yeah,

889
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: maybe this will help, and then at the end it's

890
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: just like, well, you're messed up in all these ways

891
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: and you need a dog and shout out to North

892
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: Star Kennels who are gonna gift you your own up.

893
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm down with this advice. You need a dog.

894
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, the best is when he'll he'll he'll hear

895
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: all this complex ship and he just ends it with, Damn,

896
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you're pretty messed up. You need a therapy. North Star

897
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: Kennels owned by the McGraw family and runs by teenage

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Speaker 1: labor of teenagers we've kidnapped and put into Scared Straight

899
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Speaker 1: Wilderness or what you do is, hey, is your team

900
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: acting up, We'll send them to my north Star team

901
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: camp where we'll get them right. But they're really just laborers.

902
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that is the whole industry. But I

903
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how much we're talking about on

904
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: this show, but it's it's like they if you have

905
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: a kid that's acting bad, like parents will reach out

906
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: and basically do what Britney Spears appearance to just like

907
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: get it off off your hands, kidnap them, take them away.

908
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: There's tons of those. There's like, you know, pregnancy equivalent

909
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: ones to Jesus, Yeah, that wilderness camp. That is a

910
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: huge industry, Like I remember that one was growing up.

911
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: I feel like Dr Phil's gotta be gott to be

912
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: involved in yeah, because it is like just an extension

913
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Speaker 1: of like your kid doesn't need like help, he needs

914
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Speaker 1: to be fucking screamed at while he's shivering cold on

915
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: the mountain side right to love. Yeah. Yeah, because here's

916
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: the thing. I can't break the cycle I've been subjected

917
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: to as a child, so all I can and I'm

918
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: not willing to even confront that. So the solution is

919
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: to brutalize them. Yeah that's hey, kids, they got it

920
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: too easy, not for us in the real world where

921
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: our parents had PTSD from World War Two and didn't

922
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Speaker 1: have it figured out. Thank you, Thank Babs. Such a

923
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: pleasure of having you as always. Where can people find you?

924
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff. You can follow me

925
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: at Bab's Gray on Twitter and Instagram and all that stuff,

926
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah I'm out there. I'm gonna be doing

927
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up this year, so follow me

928
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: and find me coming to your town hopefully offer a

929
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: dirty soda, you know. Yeah yeah, um and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: Abstinence is my sobriety podcast. It comes out well every

931
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: week sort of. And Lady to Lady is my comedy podcast,

932
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: comes out every week on Wednesdays. Yeah, any surpris eyes

933
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: is about abstinence or sobriety that, um, you know what

934
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: sucks is my stand up is a lot better in that,

935
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: Like you're just so clear on stage, and yeah, I'm

936
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: just like I'm very clear and like more just sharper

937
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I feel like I'm more

938
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Speaker 1: tuned into the crowd. Like what was your what was

939
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: your like pre stage regimen, Like I think like in

940
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Speaker 1: the last year, I've kind of been having like a

941
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Speaker 1: drink or two or been like getting you know, kind

942
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: of like just been getting loose before my sets, and

943
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: it was now, yeah, you take the stage kind of

944
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I've got something to say. Yeah, I

945
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: just kind of like to like loosen up. But I

946
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: was like getting too loose and just not being sharp.

947
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: And now I can see a huge difference, and I'm like,

948
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: that's so annoying. This is for me just like I

949
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: see everything. Yes, I know all yeah, is there a

950
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of media that you've

951
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: been enjoying social otherwise. I mean, I was just gonna

952
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: say the Last of Us, Okay, that's not really that's

953
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, a TV show, get into it. I watched

954
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: the whole video game, a video game I've never just

955
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: watched before. I watched my boyfriend play it, and it

956
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: was very good, and I'm like excited to see the show,

957
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: which I was still expecting, Hey, you haven't watched it yet.

958
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: I watched like the first few episodes. Okay, current it's great.

959
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: Have you guys watched it. I'm banking them because I'm

960
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: I really want my partner to watch. But like it's

961
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: easier when a show like that we can just keep going. Yeah. No,

962
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: it's definitely one of those. But it's it's it's great.

963
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I played the game too, and I'm like

964
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: if and based on everyone's like, you know, I slightly

965
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: read how people are talking about each week. I'm like,

966
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Speaker 1: oh boy, it's a heavy lift. Actually, one of one

967
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: of my tweets that I was gonna do was at

968
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: listen up nerds tweeted, you will not get me to

969
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: watch The Walking Dead for people who still do, word,

970
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. But I am going to watch the ship

971
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: out of that. Actually, yeah, I'm not over like zombie

972
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: stuff yet, so I guess I'll always have zombies in

973
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: my heart, you know, always. Yeah, it's a problem. Actually, yeah,

974
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: you have whatever. You cannot donate your your organs of

975
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: the zombies. You'll see, we'll see it'll be a Supreme

976
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: Court case that's taking it all the way to the

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Speaker 1: top Miles, Where can people find you? And what is

978
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: a tweet or work of media you've been enjoying? Uh,

979
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

980
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Also find me on Miles and Jack on mad Boost.

981
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: These new episode just dropped and also for fiance. Uh,

982
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: this might be my last episode before I go on

983
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: parental leave. I think it's so close, like within the

984
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: next two days versus yes, I'm to say that I'm

985
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: distracted is an understatement, but I still you know, when

986
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: I have the time, I'm coming back. But yeah, uh so,

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Speaker 1: thank you for everybody for all your well wishes and

988
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: your wonderful d m s and tweets and and and

989
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: comments and stuff. I'm I'm I'm just I feel very

990
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: loved and supported as I go into this, so it

991
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: means a lot, And please continue to listen to the show.

992
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: I will be back and I will be Daddy then

993
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: and my takes will be who knows, where did you

994
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: come back? I come back even Yeah, And I'm just

995
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: like fully on some Dr Phil ship. I'm like Jack.

996
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: I live in the real world and we're not worried

997
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: about stuff like systemic way supremacy because we got bills

998
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: to pay. A tweet I like is from uh at Gallant.

999
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: Greg just tweeted, oh my god, I just got that

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Speaker 1: tar is short for conduct or uh. In addition to

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: the last of us tweet, I like to tweet from

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Speaker 1: Lauren at Not a Big Jerk tweeted, what's a performance

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Speaker 1: where the actor is so when he does the performance

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00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: for that, it's no one to do. I think that

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Speaker 1: is the last one. Now, I think we're good. You

1006
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You

1007
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at

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Speaker 1: d Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website daily zeitgeist dot com where we

1010
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot note were like off

1011
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as the song that we think you might

1013
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Speaker 1: enjoy Miles, what song do we think people might enjoyed? Okay,

1014
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Speaker 1: so let's uh, let's you know, it's Black History Month

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Speaker 1: and I want to play this track one of my

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Speaker 1: you know, favorite tracks from Eddie Kendricks when he left

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Speaker 1: you know, he's on his solo ship left the Spreme

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Speaker 1: and it's called My People Hold on and if you

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Speaker 1: know Jay Dilla, you know he sampled this uh in

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Speaker 1: Donuts on the track. People. Um, but the original track

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Speaker 1: is just really dope and just a very you know,

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Speaker 1: got great energy. So put this in your ears, Eddie Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: my people. All right, Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio for more podcasts. For my

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio is the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcaster,

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. That's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 1: what is trending, and we will to all that by