1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Incredible. All have been doing is standing various parts of 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: my body, and I twisted my ankle yesterday, so it 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: feels great. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, good for you. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Claire's tearing her hair out. She fucking hates 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: all these gadgets. It takes something this much room. Also, 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Hot up behind the books, she went, not 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: behind the book. Yeah, I'll have like a secret cave 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: of all of my recovery devices. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: Right behind those books right there. 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Just yeah, good, all right, well, listen, this is take 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: two of our incredible podcast. Due to some technical errors, 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: we were gonna bring this to you the listeners sooner. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm just really happy that the technical error was not 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: my fault. 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's usually your fault, but this time it 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: was my fault. I don't know what happened to my 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: little machine that just decided to shit the bed after 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: thirty four seconds. It just had enough of us, so 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: it was like enough, already, goodbye, race. 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: He's living again. I thought they were none not, so 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: you can't stop us. So here we are. I think 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: we're going to even crush it out of the park 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: more than we did the other day. I feel like 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: our talking points are more honed. Our chemistry is back 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: in action. After barely seeing each other. For we barely 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: saw each other. We were doing all sorts of stuff. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, I was a little busy, Uh, you were quite busy. 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: And then now we're not busy. So here we are. Well, 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: you're still busy. I'm kind of busy, but not really. 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: I'm living. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm truly, truly both relieved and sad at the beginning 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: of fall, because I don't like when the weather gets colder. 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Everyone else seems to love fall. I find it really 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: depressing because it means that the summer is over and 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the US open is like the last gasp. And this year, 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: because we did a racket house, I have been basically 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: operating at an eleven for at least a month street 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: and now I feel like a balloon that's on the ceiling, 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: that's like slowly starting to fall towards the ground. But 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm still sort of hovering. But that's just me. You 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: have become America's coach. You're like, it's like America's sweetheart, 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: but tougher. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: Well, I guess I didn't even know to take that 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: as a compliment, but I'm not sure it is. I 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: think that that's a side winding comment that you want 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: to be a compliment but it's actually just a dig. 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: But anyway, whatever, it's nothing new for you. We had 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: a great couple of weeks. I mean I was working 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: the US Open. Before the US Open started, I was 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: doing qualifying for ESPN. Obviously, I was on the tennis 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: court with a certain somebody I. 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Never heard her, an up and comer named Serena Williams. 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just that up and com I'm trying to win 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: another Grand Slam, and so it was quite all. Then 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: I got to go to the Racket party, which was 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: amazing on the top of Radio City Music Hall. Oh 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: my god. I walked up Caitlin when I got up 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: out of the elevator and I came onto the where 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: it was and I was like, you got to be 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: kidding me. This is unbelievable. I couldn't believe it. It 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: was so freaking cool. I mean so cool. And you know, 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: lessons learned, right, I know you probably have you know, 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: a more alcohol stand or a more this or all that. 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: But like all of our fans that came, all Racket 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: fans that came, they were just it was absolutely unbelievable, 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: and we're learning every year. You're learning every year how 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: to do even better and better every single time we 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: put on an event. So it was amazing for me. 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: Building a court in the middle of Rockefeller Plaza, having 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: a giant party in the roof, having Steve Nash and 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: Emma Radakanu and stan Vavrinka and oh, there's Emily Radchikowski, 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: and there's Gregor Jamitra flirting with Emily Radchikowski and like. 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: But also most importantly, it's like our friends and readers 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: and fans and people we know in the world who 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: could come together and like have just a magical weekend. 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: So for me it was amazing and frankly like it 78 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: was I think the only thing that people could talk 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: about in terms of events. During the tournament. People kept 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: coming up to me and being like, oh my god. 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: So we got to top that somehow. Next year, I 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we'll put a tennis court on a 83 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: boat or something. We gotta But that's enough about Racket House. 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for the next one, and if you subscribe 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to our newsletter maybe you'll get invited. Could we just 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: talk about how you became America's coach. Obviously I want 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: to talk about Ambush Tennis, our new series starring you 88 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: six time Grand Slam champion Renee Stuffs, But I mainly 89 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about, because everyone's dying to know, how 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: did you end up sitting next to or a scene 91 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: the Williamsons family and a winter getting Serena Williams ready 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: for this tournament and frankly into what many many thought 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: an impossible position, which is like into the third round 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: of a Grand Slam after not really having played much 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: in the last two ye So can you talk about 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: how that came about, what was the lake or the moments, like, 97 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: just take us through the whole thing, because everybody's dying 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: to know. 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we look, we all saw her come 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: back at Wimbledon, and that didn't go as well as 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: she wanted to, but you know, I still thought, wow, 102 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: what an effort. After a year of not playing tennis, 103 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: she came back and you know who knows and that 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: harmony Canada making like one two more matches at Wimbleding. 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: So it wasn't like she lost to somebody who was 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: not a good player. But then when I saw her 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: play in Cincinnati, I went and I was caught side 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: for the match and I told her I would go 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: and watch, and I was there with Sam Stoza coaching her, 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: and you know, after the match, I just thought, Okay, 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: I've got a few thoughts and Serena. Serena and I 112 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: have always talked about her tennis. She's always taken criticism 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: from me or you know, text messages, and you know 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: sometimes all throughout her career, I would say the last 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: fifteen years at least, I've been somebody that's talked about 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: her career. So after the match against Radikanu, I just 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: was like, I have some thoughts, and so I gave 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: her my thoughts, and one of the thoughts was, look, 119 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: you've got to play practice sets against other players, because 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: you know, she hadn't she played like literally three matches 121 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: in a year. And all I'm thinking, I was, I 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: don't care how great a champion you are and how 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: good you are and how many matches you've played if 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: you haven't won matches in a year, and you know, 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: you're forty years of age, you are almost turning forty one, 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: and you're going to be playing in front of twenty 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: thousand plus people at Arthur Rash Stadium on Monday night, 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: in front of millions of people around the world. I thought, 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, I couldn't imagine not being fully prepared 130 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: for that moment, because that's an overwhelming moment for anybody. 131 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: So I just said, look, the only way for you 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: to be prepared for that match is at least to 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: simulate playing matches against people in practice, which she had 134 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: never done before. And the reason she had done it 135 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: before Caitlin's because she hadn't needed to. She'd won so 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: many matches and tournaments and her confidence was always so 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: sky high. But this is a different animal, you know, 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: so she took it upon. She too got on board 139 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: and she said, I agree, I'll have to do it. 140 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: And she said, would you mind, you know, observing myractices, 141 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: which is kid which is coed for. Can you pop 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: along to my practice and take a look. And I 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: just gave her a couple of thought processes to think 144 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: about during practice, what to you know then therefore implement matches. 145 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: We had a great talk before her first round about, 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, telling her how great she is and not 147 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: letting her opponents see any vulnerability. There was a lot 148 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: that was talked about prior to the match, which. 149 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Charged a little bit just because I think whether you're Serena, 150 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Jamiica Williams age forty going on forty one with twenty 151 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: three Grand slams under your belt, or you know, a 152 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: recreational player like somebody who gets ambushed by renee stubs 153 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: on a public court, there are some really relatable things 154 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to this, which is, you know, we talked about the 155 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: other day, the positivity going into a match on whatever 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: size court and the idea of any time you get 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: angry with yourself or body language or negative or you 158 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: make a mistake or something doesn't go your way and 159 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you choose whether or not you're going to telegraph vulnerability 160 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: or strength to your opponent is a huge and easy 161 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: take away for anybody, right, Like talk a little bit 162 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: about that, like that's that's it's not Braezer agree, But 163 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: it's really really important for anybody. 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean one of the things that I've talked 165 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: about with Serena through the years really is like to 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: try and not be as demonstrative early in matches, you know, 167 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: if things don't go her way early, because anybody that 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: walks on the court against Serena be included, it's very 169 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: intimidated by her, and so I said, the last thing 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: you can do is show vulnerability in your body language. 171 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: So no matter how you're feeling, if you're feeling stressed, 172 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: et cetera, like, take all of that stress and all 173 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: of that pressure and all of that angst and throw 174 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: it down the other end to your opponent, because you know, 175 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: if you've got to think about, you know, the covenation 176 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: and contivate. And even in the end Isla Tomlanovitch, who 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: handle the moment so beautifully, they are going to feel 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, you know, twenty thousand plus fans 179 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: cheering against them, you know, knowing that this possibly could 180 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: be her last match. Like all the stuff I said, 181 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: Your opponents have a lot to deal with, you know, 182 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: So take all of the stress and put it on them, 183 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: you know, and try and allow yourself to be great. 184 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: And so yes, absolutely is was great. 185 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: She played so well even in the match class against Isla. 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: She played great tennis, which I didn't if I can 187 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: be honest, and I think I speak for. 188 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: She should have won the match maybe, but I don't 189 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: know that. 190 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: I thought she was still capable of playing that well 191 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: after what I've seen for the last two years. You knew it, 192 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think a lot of us who who 193 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: had seen her level coming into this summer thought that, 194 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: And I am happy to have been wrong. 195 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: No, she she was hitting the ball well in practice. 196 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: But you know, one of the things that I said 197 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: to is that, yeah, but you're hitting with your hitting partner, 198 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: so you feel good hitting with him. You have to 199 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: problem solve in practice, and you have to problem solve 200 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: in set. So she was able to do that in practice, 201 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: and then she took it onto the match because you know, 202 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: the thing that I was probably proudest of is that 203 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: she didn't lose her shit in any of those matches. 204 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: She really kept it together. She probably got a little 205 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: bit too ancious and you know a little bit upset 206 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: at herself in the match against Isla because she didn't 207 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: close out the first set at five three, and she 208 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: didn't close out the second set at five two, which 209 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: is why I said she really should have won the match. 210 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: I mean, serving for both sets. Not very usual for 211 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Serena to not serve it out, but that's also not 212 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: having matches. But overall, like her attitude was great. She 213 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: didn't get frustrated or break a racket or I mean 214 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: we've seen that through the years, So I don't know 215 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: if it was just me like pounding it into her 216 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: head and pounding it into her and practice about being 217 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: positive and letting go of the negative. But she was 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: so great and it was a joy to sit there 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: and watch, and it was pretty cool to be a 220 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: part of that last ride with her, and I was 221 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: very glad to be there for the ride. 222 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: What's like a pre match Serena Williams team routine? Like 223 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: what is that? Like? Are you like I don't know, 224 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: like does she need notes? Like what does that even 225 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: look like from a coach? Yeah? 226 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wrote down a couple of things, 227 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: and she wrote down a couple of things. She puts 228 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: them in a bag. You know, you often see her 229 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: through matches sometimes just grab something out of her bag 230 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: to read. It could be anything. It could be just 231 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: one or two Q words, And every player should do this, 232 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: even in the amateurs or juniors. You should always have 233 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Q words to help you come back from the macro 234 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: and bring it to the micro little things, and that's 235 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: super important. Antenna. So yeah, I mean prior to the match, 236 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: looks she warmed up really late. Every time. She went 237 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: literally sweating straight into the changing room to change, and 238 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: you know it was Derek and Christy, her physio and 239 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: fitness trainer, and you know, they're getting her physically ready, 240 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: and it's just a conversation between she and she and 241 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: myself and also Eric Heckman. He came in with you know, 242 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: some game plans and things like that, but it was 243 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: just a five to ten minute conversation and then it's 244 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: just keeping her loose and keeping her happy and getting 245 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: her out of the court. We had a little ritual 246 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: and a little group hug, and she wanted in on that. 247 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: She felt very left out when the team were doing 248 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: it on her own. She's like, can I get in 249 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: on that? We'll like, of course, get in here, you know. 250 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: So it was just trying to keep her loose and 251 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 2: trying to keep her happy, and I think everybody did 252 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: their jobs really well. I give her lot of credit 253 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: to Derek and Christy because they went with her a 254 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: lot of the day, just keeping her healthy and happy 255 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: and not too stressed because she's got a lot on 256 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: a play, you know, between her businesses and you know, 257 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: her dog passed away the week before. They at one 258 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: of her dogs though she had a lot on her mind, 259 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: and you know she's got a kid, so Olympia's you know, 260 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: she's trying to keep her happy. So so amazing experience, Caitlin, 261 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: and may I add, May I add, Anna Winter is 262 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: one of the nicest people I think I've ever met. 263 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: She was absolutely delight to sit there. 264 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Can we talk more about that, because you know, I 265 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: have often thought to myself, whenever you meet somebody incredibly 266 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: powerful who maybe has a reputation for being scary, and 267 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think of her as 268 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: being very scary, they're actually like super nice and at 269 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: ease with themselves and ease in the world because they're 270 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: so good at what they do. They have like a 271 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: they don't need to be Forrester brunt or you know, 272 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: uh rude or anything. And that was your experience with her, to. 273 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: Like, absolutely delightful. Could not have been nicer. She was 274 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: so lovely, talked about you know, family, and she was 275 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: just a delight. So anybody out there that think Anna 276 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: Wintour is anything but a delight. She was a big 277 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: fan of Racket Magazine. I have to tell you, Katelyn, 278 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: she said, she said, I please let Caitlyn know it's 279 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: a love lovely magazine. It's just wonderful. And I was like, 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I will tell her, and I think she'll be really 281 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: happy with that. 282 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Well, sure, listen, Anna, it's for sale, so let's have 283 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: a chat like you and I. We can. I'm sure 284 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: work something out. I'd be happy. I don't submit to 285 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot of women, Renee, but I think I would 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: for her. I would, yeah, I would gladly take her 287 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: being my boss. Amazing outcome. Well done, coach. Do you 288 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: feel like now you could coach anybody? You should coach anybody. 289 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that. I feel like you're America's coach, 290 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: not only because in an incredible turn of events, we 291 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: were able to release the first sizzle and some parts 292 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: of the first episode of Ambush Tennis, the series in 293 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: which you go on to public tennis courts, harass, engage, 294 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: but most importantly, maximally improve recreational tennis players games. You're 295 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: such a phenomenally good coach, and I think that obviously 296 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: is something that those of us who know you know, 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: and you can hear it in your commentating, because you 298 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: understand the game a lot better, let me just say, 299 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: than a lot of people who get microphones read into 300 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: that way. You will. But you're able to improve even 301 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: somebody legendary like Strena in a way that was very 302 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: obvious for all of us to see. You can coach 303 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: anybody who would you want to coach? What's next? 304 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Like, I'm not trying out any names. I think there's 305 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: a lot of players out there that I could help. 306 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd want to take that on. 307 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: That's a lot. You know. The problem is with tennis 308 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: coaches is you have to be on side with the agents, 309 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: right because agents make so many of the calls. So 310 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: there's you know, there's a few agents that maybe not 311 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: my fan for whatever reason, and then there are some 312 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: agents that are my fan, so that know that I 313 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: can help their players. So you know, I think the 314 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: bottom line is any agent out there should recognize that 315 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: I could maybe be an asset for their player. So 316 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: I would take personal, you know, beefs off the table 317 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: if I was them, because I think I can make 318 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: a big difference for a lot of players out there 319 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: that sort of need that positivity and a change in 320 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: their thinking process. And there's a lot there's a lot 321 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: of players that I know that I can help. But 322 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: but again that's not up to me. That's up to 323 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: the player, and it's up to their agents, and so 324 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: we'll see where it lies. I'm not in any rush, 325 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: really happy and content where I am that. I've got 326 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: a lot of on my plate right now. So everybody 327 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: out there, I only go to the public courts. I'm 328 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: not going to some fancy schmancy club, Okay. I go 329 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: to the people. So at the most random places around 330 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: the country. You never know what I'll turn up. 331 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: You never know. Grenes Sums will coach you, whether you 332 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: like it or not, So just pull under your hats. 333 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I guess we should talk about us open. Other than 334 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Serena's evolution away from the game, we had other evolutions 335 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: of the way away from the game, including our very 336 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: good mate Petko andre I Pekovic, our cultural attache, our 337 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: fashion correspondent, author of an award winning fiction book in German. 338 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: What a great battle she put up against Belinda Benchicic 339 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: in the first round and went out swinging against a 340 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: player who was both great and gracious in a way 341 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: that I was really happy to sort of be witness to. 342 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as you know, I was quite busy 343 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: at the US Open. But for some reason, you know, 344 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: I just got a break and I had about a 345 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: two hour break in the day where I was able 346 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: to go and sit and watch my buddy Petco play 347 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: her last ever match. And there were periods in the 348 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: third set where I was like, oh my god, she's 349 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: going to win this match, like this would be amazing, 350 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: and it was so such a high quality match with Benchic. Unfortunately, 351 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: Benchich raised her level to a different level in the 352 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: last couple of games, like she played so well. So Petko, 353 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: you know, deservedly went out the way. She will always 354 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: be remembered by everybody on tour as a huge fighter. 355 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 2: Somebody never gives up, someone that entertains the crowd. I mean, 356 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: there was a chance of Petco Peko like the whole 357 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: second and third set. So it was awesome, and it's 358 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: the way she deserved to go out, like playing great tennis. 359 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 2: But she could still keep playing. She could probably have 360 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: a great week here and there. But you know, at 361 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: some point you do decide, like there are things in 362 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: my life that I want to pursue. And interestingly enough, 363 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: like as she was playing the match, I turned around 364 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: at one stage when they were having a toilet break, 365 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: and there was a lady standing in the shade because 366 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: it wasn't all a shade that day, standing in the 367 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: shade reading Petko's book. While watching her, I thought, this 368 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: is just the epitome of Andrea Pekovic's legacy. Yeah, it 369 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: was awesome. So yeah, I mean, Andy, we love you, 370 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: We love you, love you. Now we're just going to 371 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: get to spend more time with you in New York, 372 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: which we're happy about. 373 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she joined my book club, actually without my permission. 374 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: She went around me, and now she's in my book 375 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: club and apparently she's already conspiring to get me thrown 376 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: out for the third time. So you know, I respect it. Honestly, 377 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: it's a move and I respect it. Other goings on 378 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: at the tournament, obviously we had the world's number one 379 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and number two players in the women's side, you know, 380 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: great runs. I was really pleased to see Caroline Garcia 381 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: put a lot of stuff together. She's going to enter 382 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: the top ten again after this tournament, which she really 383 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: deserves to be in based on the way that she 384 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: hits the ball. She came up short and just kind 385 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: of didn't show up against Don's But like for the 386 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: rest of the tournament, I thought she was playing the 387 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: best tennis Cocoa Goff has gotten a lot better. Her 388 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: serve has gotten better, her forehand has gotten better. Like 389 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: she's backing up her role on Garros run with a 390 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: deep run here. I think is really great because it's 391 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: still insane to me that she's so young. But at 392 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: the end, I mean, Ega just her mental capacity to 393 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: win ugly and win when you're not playing great. I 394 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: feel like, is you know the move I was sad 395 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Ons couldn't really kind of come to the table enough 396 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: really for the first set and a half of that 397 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: match and the final, But like, you know, credits Eager 398 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: for just being incredibly, incredibly mentally tough to whether whatever 399 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: anybody came to her with. I don't know what are 400 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: your thoughts about the finals specifically. 401 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, she struggled the whole tournament. She 402 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: was not happy, she was up and down, she lost sets, 403 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: she was complaining about the balls. She was never comfortable, 404 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: I think until the final. And I don't know what 405 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: it is with Ega, but she just gets so locked 406 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: in once she's in a final. Like if you look 407 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: at her results against people in finals, she hasn't lost 408 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: a set. Yeah, so she wins. 409 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Matches like that's crazy. 410 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: But she doesn't just win them, just she wins them 411 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: easily every single time. She just comes to play. She's 412 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: just you know, I think it's weird because I think 413 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: when you when you're that good a player, you get 414 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: to the finals and you just then expect. And it 415 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: was Carie web an old buddy friend of mine who 416 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: was an LPGA golfing great. I was in the Hall 417 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: of Fame. She used to say to me, when I 418 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: got down to the eighteenth hole and I was in 419 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 2: the lead, that's what I expected. So instead of like 420 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: choking under pressure, She'll be like, this is what I 421 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: expect of myself. I expect to winness. And she went 422 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: on a run of like for years of being world 423 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: number one and winning tons of tournaments and majors, and 424 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: she said, when I got to the eighteenth hole, either 425 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: in the lead or you know, ahead, you know, or 426 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: maybe close to the lead, that's where I expected myself 427 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: to be. And I think, eager Now when she gets 428 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: to the final, she's like, yeah, this is what I 429 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: expected myself as a great player. And she does and 430 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: she played. I mean her I know onst didn't show 431 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: up in the first set, but her level was outstanding 432 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: in the first set. I think she was like ninety 433 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: percent first serves in. I mean, you. 434 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Didn't make mate. 435 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: She didn't miss a return for the first set and 436 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: a half. 437 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I think for players and I love 438 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: watching On's because I feel like she's a much much, much, 439 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: much much much better version of me, somebody who's like 440 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of out there to like have a good amount 441 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: of fun. So it's really relatable watching her play tennis. 442 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: It's also relatable when she is faced with an opponent 443 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: who hasn't missed either a serve or a return pretty 444 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: much for a whole set, to just kind of freak out, 445 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: which is honestly what I thought happened. I'm really happy 446 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: she showed up to that match in I would say, 447 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: like the second half of the second set and made 448 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: it a competitive endeavor. You know, at one point she 449 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: was serving I think for the second set, and I 450 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: think if we were to enact a rule that Renee 451 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Stubbs is really advocating for, she would have had the 452 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: second set and then anything happens in a third. But 453 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I do think there's something about egas showing up to play, 454 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: being ready to play, having that expectation like you were 455 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: talking about, that is just really setting her apart from 456 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: the field right now. 457 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's going to be a Gryt number one for 458 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: a number of years. Hopefully, you know, we keep it 459 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: there and she's happy. My rule change, just for everybody 460 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: out there that Kayden forgot to tell you, is that 461 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: I want to get rid of the let cord in 462 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: tennis because I think it's so ridiculous that, you know, 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: these plays hit great serves and it barely touches the 464 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: net and that stupid little white machine and picks it 465 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: up and it's like it's a disaster. She onto the 466 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: serve out wide at five four in the tie break. 467 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: That was a clean ace and they called it a 468 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: lot and I was like, that's the fucking thing I 469 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: hate about let cords because that was a great serve 470 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: and you know we have it in points and everyone's like, yeah, 471 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: but what about a dead net look card, I'm like, 472 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: that happens in points all the time. What's the difference, 473 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: you know, So I want to get rid of that cord. 474 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: If we've done that, she would have been up six 475 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: to fourth serving in the tiebreak. There's no guarantee she 476 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: was going to win, but certainly weould have helped. But yeah, 477 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: the women's event was amazing. Obviously Serena was the story 478 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: the first week, and then who was going to win 479 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: in the second week and what could Eager call back? 480 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: But you know, we also before we get to the 481 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: men's but we also want to talk a little bit 482 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: about the failures really of some of the players that 483 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: we expected, you know, on the women's side, and you 484 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: look about Bianca and Rescue where she gone these days? 485 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: You know, Emma Radakano of course was the defending champion, 486 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: and Leila Fernandez who made the final, yim for It's 487 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: just amazing to me that that's how deep women's tennis 488 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: is that they weren't even a part of the second week, 489 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: both of them, all three of them, so tremendous amount 490 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: of depth. Again and women's tennis. It was nice to 491 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: see the world number one and two in the final, 492 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: in the live rankings and in the final. And also 493 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: in the men's we had the number one and two 494 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: live rankings in the final. So the failures on the 495 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: men's side as more of a bit of a what 496 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: is going on when we talk about the dinner Shop 497 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: of Olav and Felix Agier Aliascent, your people, Caitlin, your. 498 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Canadians, Canadians come on Canada, and we had it going 499 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: for us for a little while, and now we're just 500 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: like in some sort of slump. Yeah, fail to deliver 501 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: this yes, really this summer. I mean, I know Felix 502 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: had a good beginning of the season, but shap Vala 503 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: then under Escoop haven't been really at the top ashline 504 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: of the game for now a while. And it's yeah, 505 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I want to watch them play. I love all of 506 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: their styles to play, but yeah, what do you think 507 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: is going on with those guys? Is it's just like 508 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: slump when you get to an incredibly high place that's 509 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: hard to stay there. 510 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: And so it's I don't know, I mean, I just 511 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: for me, FAA needs to chill out, like he just 512 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: feels so stiff on the cord and I don't know, 513 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: I feel like I just want to shake him and 514 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: being like, look, you're not trying to be perfect here, 515 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: You're just trying to play tennis. Like let's be like Alcorazm, 516 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: like jump around the court and dive and have fun. 517 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: And finish points and not look about how you look. 518 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 519 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I love feeling perfect, but it doesn't look relaxed. 520 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: No, it's not relaxed. And you know, obviously he's had 521 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: Tony on his team now Nadal for a couple of years, 522 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's working. And it's certainly 523 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: not Tony's fault, but I don't know. I think he 524 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: needs somebody who's just going to make him enjoy the game. 525 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: There you go, there's somebody I could coach. Hey, bring 526 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 2: me in. 527 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: But I love that for you guys. 528 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: But you know, of course Steph sits a pass. You 529 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: know how I feel about him until he gets. 530 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: We get the dad, man, get the dad out of there. 531 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: If the dad gets out of there, he may win 532 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: a Grand Slam. That's just how I feel. I think 533 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: his dad is unbelievably negative towards him on the court. 534 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: I think he he has, you know, some issues with 535 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: anger on the court, and I think he bottles a 536 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: lot of his anger up from just so much stuff. 537 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: And yeah, so you know, you've got Dennis, You've got Faa, 538 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: you got Stephanos, You've got Dominic team and of course 539 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: Vera wasn't there because he's still injured. Not that I'm 540 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: worried about that, but you think about that was the 541 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: supposed next gen. But here you have two guys, in 542 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: my opinion, with Alcoraz clearly the world now world number one. 543 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Really, this is just he's playing a different game. 544 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: He is him and my boy, Yannick Sinner, Who, oh 545 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: my god. I cannot wait for these two to play 546 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: for another decade and a half against each other, because 547 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: that was the match of the tournament, and it was 548 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: also one of the best matches I've seen, but it 549 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: was the quality was out of this world. So men's 550 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: tennis I was a bit worried a couple of years ago. 551 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: I was a bit worried there weren't any like real stars. 552 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you've got al Chaz, Sinna, 553 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: of course, Francis Tiafo. What a great tournament he had. 554 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: So if we have those three, and of course you're 555 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: male Stallion, the. 556 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: Thing it's catching on. I feel like we're going to 557 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: make t shirts with the rudes about how he really 558 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: embodies the spirit of oatmeal. Stallion. I came up with it. 559 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm a genius, and there we go. I just want 560 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: to say two words, which is big who Like, I'm 561 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: not missing those guys, I don't, you know, I've been 562 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: over them for a long time. But the fact that 563 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: there's a varied, deep, and really interesting mix of men 564 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: now on the on in the in the game that 565 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: for a long time was dominated by very, very very 566 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: storylines for me is so exciting. This was such a 567 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: great I mean, Carlos Algarez is really unbelievably multifaceted in 568 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: a way that I think, you know, those of us 569 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: who watch the game really closely, it's hard to explain 570 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: sometimes like what makes him that much better than everybody else? 571 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: And you know, talking about Cinner. Obviously Sinner had match points, 572 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Tiafo took him to five, you know, but I think 573 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: unlike Tiafo, or unlike Caspar Rude or unlike Nick who 574 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: take giant swings at the ball and hit massive, massive 575 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: groundstrokes which are awesome and impressive, Carlitos can do that 576 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: kind of like in a Bruce leeway where he can 577 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: generate pace with like a one inch punch, Like he's 578 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: doing the same thing from anywhere in the court without 579 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: taking a big cut. He moves forward, he's got Bolli's 580 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: like he's doing something different. And that's why those who 581 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: watch the game really closely are specifically so excited about him. 582 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: As you and I like to say that's his foehnd, 583 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: It's true, he really does. He's quick with the fade, 584 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: with the hands, he's quick with his smile. He's just 585 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: like the greatest thing for men sent us. Oh my god. 586 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: Like and let me tell you, everyone out there that 587 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: loves this guy love him for a reason because he 588 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: is the nicest kid you'll ever meet. He says hello 589 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: to everybody, he greets the crew, when he comes and 590 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 2: does interviews, he shakes everyone's hand. He's really genuine about it. 591 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: I could not like a kid more. And Yannick's in 592 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: not same thing. So let's hope they're around for another 593 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: decade and a half, because my god, they're going to 594 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: be really good, both of them. I mean, our kres 595 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: already is. But and I also just want to. 596 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Know when Renee says somebody is really nice, that's not 597 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: a given. There is not everybody who's really nice. There's 598 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: not everyone who makes eye contact, there's not everyone who 599 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: goes behind the scenes and thanks the tournament organizers the volunteers, 600 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: the drivers, the catering. You know, putting on a tournament 601 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: of any size, but especially Grand Slam is just a 602 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: massive massive It's like a small country of people. And 603 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: when somebody is thoughtful and treats the media, the interviewers, 604 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the on court staff, all that with kindness and a 605 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: sense of shared. 606 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Respect and respect great. 607 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: This is everyone's place of work and so it's really 608 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: nice to see people who have the package total and 609 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: who do that, and it just so happens to also 610 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: come in the package with a giant, giant game. So 611 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Carlita is our new king, as he likes to say, 612 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: and I think again relatable. He plays with cavesa carathon 613 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: e khones which means brains, heart and balls. 614 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true he does. And I just want to 615 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: add Francis Tiafo in there as nicest guy ever that 616 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: also is very very very nice to everyone around him, 617 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: the court people, this crew, the staff, everyone. He hugs 618 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: everybody on an interview like just a delight. So men, 619 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: sentence is in great hands with these three, particularly the No. 620 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: Four with Rude as well, these four young men who 621 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: are just great for the game. So and thank God 622 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 2: for them. I know Caitlin that you also want to 623 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: add a little extra thing for the USTA. 624 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Listen I as Racket celebrated its sixth year of existence, 625 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, making a magazine, making a top three of 626 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: the world's podcasts, Congratulations to Renee Stubs. I mean, did 627 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: some of that have help? Because Renee Stubs and Serena 628 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Williams coach, I don't care. People are listening to this 629 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: show because they love tennis, they love your commentary, and frankly, 630 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: I think they love the vibe of something that's not 631 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: so corporate and establishment, because that's certainly what we're trying 632 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: to do with Racket. I do, however, want to give 633 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: a shout out to the USCA, not our likeliest of allies, 634 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: because sometimes I have a lot of harsh words for 635 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: the governing bodies in tennis and some of the endemic, 636 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, corporate think that has in my view, sort 637 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: of held the game back. But to sort of call 638 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: out innovation and when I see something really encouraging in 639 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: terms of new thought and new leaders, like I want 640 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're given credit where he credits 641 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: to this year, like many years, there was a vibrant 642 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: juniors competition and there was a vibrant wheelchair competition. We 643 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: watched Shingo Kunyeta, who I came on to a couple 644 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: of years ago at the French Open as one of 645 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: the greatest wheelchair players of all time go for his 646 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Golden Slam. That's something d d Degrud has. That's something 647 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: your guy Dylan Alcott from Australia has, and he was 648 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: going for it this year. He ended up falling short 649 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: in the final. But wheelchair is usually something a lot 650 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: of player spectators don't get to watch, and juniors is 651 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: something a lot of spectators don't get to watch because 652 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: usually by the end of the tournament when these competitions start, 653 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: the only people going to the tournament that are paying 654 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: ticketed guests are going to watch the big matches in 655 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: the stadium. And USTA did something really different this year 656 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: because this year they had the first ever in a 657 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: Grand Slam wheelchair junior tournament and to celebrate that, they 658 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: made one day of the second week free. You couldn't 659 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: get into the stadium with that, but you could watch 660 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: the best players in the world in every single division, legends, wheelchair, 661 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: wheelchair and juniors, and the people in the main singles 662 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: and doubles and mixed draws practice, so really just opening 663 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: up those grounds and making them feel less sparse and 664 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: actually vibrantly packed with fans and in my case kids, 665 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: because it happened to coincide with a day that parents 666 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with their children because school wasn't 667 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: in session yet. So I just want to give a 668 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: shout out, like what a cool thing. We profiled Malee Phelps, 669 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: one of the US up and coming wheelchair juniors. She 670 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: ended up winning the mixed doubles championship this year, and 671 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just so cool to see them doing something really innovative, 672 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: expanding the definition of what constitutes like really compelling competitive 673 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: tennis and making it accessible for spectators to see and 674 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: chair and spread around. Because let me tell you, if 675 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: you think listening to this podcast that you're going to 676 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: see something diminished by watching wheelchair tennis. Like the people 677 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: who play wheelchair tennis at highest levels can beat you, 678 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: like just straight up can beat you at tennis. Like 679 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they can beat you, Renee Stebbs, but 680 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: like this is not anything other than a brute speed, 681 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: agility and frankly technique athon on a lot of these 682 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of these matches, and I was really 683 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: pleased to watch it and take my kids to watch 684 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: it and to keep up. And it didn't see you. 685 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: Cryn Yeah, it's so good. I sat with the wheelies 686 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: at Wimbledon. We were all sitting in their locker room 687 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: together and we were watching the guys play their final 688 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 2: with him in it, with Alfie, and it was just 689 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: such a fun atmosphere to sit with them, and I'd 690 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: ask them questions about how you do this and how 691 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: you do that, and they're like, have you ever tried it? 692 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: And I was like no. I was like, They're like, oh, 693 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: you'd be good. I was like, I don't know. I 694 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: mean the shots that they can hit and the strength 695 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: that they have in their upper body, I tell you, 696 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And some of them have such beautiful 697 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: service motions as well in their chairs. And I just 698 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: think for everybody out there, you should go and try 699 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: and at least watch one time the wheelchair tennis because 700 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: it's really phenomenal what they do with the ball, and 701 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: I have such huge respect for them and they work 702 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: really hard. Was around Dylan Alcott a lot, and he 703 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: practiced as much as we did. He was in the 704 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: gym as much as we were. It's the work that 705 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: they do. They have the bands attached to the wheelchair, 706 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: they're like, you know, working on their arm strength and 707 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: their speed around the court. It's incredible what they do, 708 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: and they truly are athletes, like really amazing. 709 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: So krudos, shout out to the USCA, Shout out to 710 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: our friend Meghan Rose, who directed the tournament and was 711 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: responsible for getting wheelchair juniors wheelis juniors for the first time, 712 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: and shout out to the USCA for being smart. And hey, 713 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: every other governing body and tennis pay attention. Make your 714 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: second week more compelling by getting fans in there watching 715 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: these great athletes in all these different competitions because people 716 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: need to see tennis up close to appreciate it, and 717 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: they need to see tennis of all types. 718 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: So agreed free tickets to me in the last couple 719 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: of days is like a must because you are also 720 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: playing some doubles quarter finals, mixed doubles quarter finals and 721 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: semi finals out there and it's not fun to go 722 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: out there and no one's out there to watch, and 723 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: it is because no one knows about it, you know 724 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. So so allow the tennis fan, the 725 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: true tennis fans that don't have a lot of money, 726 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: especially to get out there and watch those and support 727 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: them because the atmosphere is and could be amazing because 728 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: they are some amazing matches. But yeah, kudos to the USDA. 729 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, just a positive note because I feel like, you know, 730 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: it's important to do that right and hopefully we'll do it. 731 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of tennis and all his forms. This morning I 732 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: played with a woman who was an All American Pepperdine 733 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: and she was trying to coach me and get me 734 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: excited about playing the ITF Super Seniors next year in 735 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: the forties division. So you know, all of us in 736 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: our own special ways are chasing some sort of dream. 737 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: This woman won three gold balls in the last month, 738 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: so I feel like she might be a little bit 739 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: more hype on this than I am. But you know, 740 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: you never stop learning, you never stop improving. Night, That's 741 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: what we're all out here trying to do. 742 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: Hey, and you never know, I might just bop onto 743 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: a court and tell you exactly how to get better 744 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: and how to win that gold ball. Who doesn't want 745 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: a gold ball? EXACTITLN, It's great, Senior fans, thanks for 746 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: listening to us. Thanks for hanging in there with all 747 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: our little spark in and outs, but we were both 748 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 2: quite busy over the last few weeks. But where we'll 749 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: be back and we'll give you what you need. So 750 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: thanks for listening to us, everyone. Bye bye h