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Speaker 2: Handler is the author of I'll Have What She's Having.
Speaker 2: Chelsea is a comedian, television host, six time New York
Speaker 2: Times bestselling author, and advocate whose humor and candor have
Speaker 2: established her as one of the most celebrated voices in
Speaker 2: entertainment and pop culture. After a strong seven year run
Speaker 2: as the host of ease top rated Chelsea Lately, a
Speaker 2: tenure in which she was the only female late night
Speaker 2: talk show host on air, she launched her documentary series
Speaker 2: Chelsea Does, followed by her talk show Chelsea on Netflix
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. She has penned six New York Times
Speaker 2: bestselling books, five of which have reached number one, including
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen's Life Will Be the Death of Me. Her
Speaker 2: upcoming seventh book, a new memoir in essays, I'll Have
Speaker 2: What She's Having, will publish February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, she launched her I Heart Art
Speaker 2: radio advice podcast Dear Chelsea, and embarked on the Vaccinated
Speaker 2: and Horny Tour, bringing her sensational stand up set to
Speaker 2: over ninety cities with one hundred and fifteen shows across
Speaker 2: North America and winning the Comedy Act of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one at the People's Choice Awards. Following the success of
Speaker 2: her twenty twenty HBO Max comedy special Evolution, which earned
Speaker 2: Chelsea a Grammy nomination for Best Comedy Album, she made
Speaker 2: her return to Netflix with her critically acclaimed twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two comedy special Revolution. Handler is currently on her stand
Speaker 2: up tour, Chelsea Handler Live, and recently kicked off her
Speaker 2: Las Vegas residency, Chelsea at the Chelsea at the cosmopolitin
Speaker 2: make history as the venue's first female comedian residency. Welcome Chelsea,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on totally booked to
Speaker 2: talk about I'll have what She's having. Congratulations, Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Okay, tell listeners what this book
Speaker 2: is about, please.
Speaker 4: I think this book is about infusing optimism in times
Speaker 4: of despair or ease, while also serving as a reminder
Speaker 4: for women, especially to check in with ourselves and make
Speaker 4: sure that we are turning into the women that we
Speaker 4: wanted to become.
Speaker 2: I love that you manifested your whole life when you
Speaker 2: were younger, like, this is it, this is who I
Speaker 2: want to be. Let's see how I can make this happen.
Speaker 2: I mean all I did is like I want to
Speaker 2: be a teacher. I want to be a writer. Anyway,
Speaker 2: pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I think that you know, especially now, what we're experiencing
Speaker 4: as a country and just this backlash against women, I
Speaker 4: have no doubt in us, you know, I have no
Speaker 4: misgivings about how powerful women are.
Speaker 3: And we are in this situation right.
Speaker 4: Now because of that power and because of the threat
Speaker 4: that that serves up to people who can't deal with,
Speaker 4: you know, women being powerful. But we're not going anywhere,
Speaker 4: so this is just another bump in the road because
Speaker 4: women are powerful. We are the source of almost everything,
Speaker 4: and we're so smart and like we're finally figuring that
Speaker 4: out as a collective, I think, and while while the
Speaker 4: backdrop is not pretty, I'm very optimistic about what is
Speaker 4: to come.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of powerful women, you early in the book
Speaker 2: have a meeting with Jane Funda, who gives you some
Speaker 2: rather unsavory feedback about your behavior, which you take very
Speaker 2: well and actually use to re examine yourself and change
Speaker 2: tell me about that and how you can take advice
Speaker 2: and not be defensive.
Speaker 3: Well learned in therapy.
Speaker 4: One of the first things I learned in therapy was
Speaker 4: about being defensive and if you are being defensive, you're
Speaker 4: usually wrong. Like, if you're right, you don't have to
Speaker 4: defend yourself, you don't care.
Speaker 3: You know the truth.
Speaker 4: You know the sky is blue, that your eyes are blue,
Speaker 4: that you know the laundry like the washing machine is going.
Speaker 4: I know all of those things to be true. So like,
Speaker 4: if you're right, you're right, you like you know, you
Speaker 4: don't have to defend yourself. And defending yourself also makes
Speaker 4: you lose control, right because you're like, no, I.
Speaker 3: Did that, I did do that.
Speaker 4: I did Like it's kind of just a lose lose situation.
Speaker 4: So and then also when someone's telling you something like
Speaker 4: all you can say is thank you, And if they're
Speaker 4: completely out of their tree and they're not making like
Speaker 4: they're not saying something that you believe to be true,
Speaker 4: then who cares anyway?
Speaker 3: Like it only matters if it is true.
Speaker 2: It's easier to hear that, but less easy to internalize.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I'm I mean people are always assuming
Speaker 4: that I have no you know that I have so
Speaker 4: guarded or protected, like I just everything rolls off my back,
Speaker 4: or you know that I'm so confident. People always saying
Speaker 4: where do you get your confidence from? I'm like, where's
Speaker 4: your confident? Where's your confidence? We should all be confident.
Speaker 4: We should be instilling that in each other. You know,
Speaker 4: I want all.
Speaker 3: Of us to be confident.
Speaker 4: I want all of our young women that are coming
Speaker 4: up in this world to experience the confidence that I
Speaker 4: feel every day.
Speaker 2: From your mouth to God's ears. Let's just say that
Speaker 2: I hope that happens too. That would be amazing. You've
Speaker 2: served as a role model for a lot of people
Speaker 2: yourself whoopsie, whoopsie, or I don't know, I'm probably getting
Speaker 2: their day strugopsy, whopsy, whoops. Anyway, that yes, and that
Speaker 2: was so nice. So you date. You can tell the
Speaker 2: story of it in the book. You were dating someone
Speaker 2: got quite attached to his kids. You were so helpful
Speaker 2: to them, you feel devoid in their lives and maintain
Speaker 2: this relationship with them for so long. Talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about that and sort of stepping into this role
Speaker 2: which you funnily enough call yourself father in this dynamic.
Speaker 2: But talk about that role in sort of inherited family.
Speaker 4: Well, there are so many people women, I mean, people
Speaker 4: would never know how many children there are in my life,
Speaker 4: how many children that I'm really close to, how many
Speaker 4: children that are. I mean, there's lots of them, and
Speaker 4: not just my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 3: Randoms, you know, random children. And so I kind of
Speaker 3: found myself.
Speaker 4: You know, I've never wanted a baby, but people automatically
Speaker 4: assume if you don't want a child or you don't
Speaker 4: that you're that you don't like children.
Speaker 3: It's not that I don't like children. I just don't
Speaker 3: want one. I want like a postami sandwich. I'm not interested.
Speaker 3: You know, I can appreciate shape them, you know, good,
Speaker 3: go get one, but not for me. Like that message
Speaker 3: alone is now becoming louder.
Speaker 4: People are saying and expressing, yes, I don't want to
Speaker 4: have a child, that's not for me, and I also
Speaker 4: don't want to be married. These can be antiquated notions,
Speaker 4: you know, when you break them all down.
Speaker 3: What are all these institutions about. It's kind of all
Speaker 3: pretty stupid.
Speaker 4: So I want to, like, you know, get after life
Speaker 4: and really impact the young people around me, to feel
Speaker 4: and instill in them the way that you know, the
Speaker 4: way that I feel about the world, which is anything
Speaker 4: is possible and you And to have an impact.
Speaker 3: On young people's lives like Poopsie, Woopsie and Oopsie.
Speaker 4: Like to be there for them, to want them, want
Speaker 4: My attention is basically all I need.
Speaker 3: If you need me, I'm coming.
Speaker 4: But if you don't need me, great, But you know,
Speaker 4: like to be of service to young people and the
Speaker 4: amount of young people I'm able to whose lives I
Speaker 4: am able to impact because I didn't have my own children,
Speaker 4: because I don't have a family of my own to
Speaker 4: focus on, has allowed me to grow so much and
Speaker 4: has given me so much more you know, purpose and
Speaker 4: joy than I would have ever.
Speaker 3: Hoped to feel as a person who never had children.
Speaker 2: Well, I just I just love that. I mean babies
Speaker 2: as Pastrami sandwiches. Who knew right, who knew? You tell
Speaker 2: a lot of stories in the book about different situations
Speaker 2: you find yourself in that are funny and sad and
Speaker 2: all the things, one of which which I guess could
Speaker 2: be construed as both in given your points of view.
Speaker 2: But going to Kennebunkport, where other members of your family
Speaker 2: were like, yes, you have to go if you've gotten
Speaker 2: this invitation and meeting the former president and while you're
Speaker 2: you know, having edibles and whatever, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: wearing sunglasses and trying to see him for who he
Speaker 2: is as a man and not necessarily his beliefs and
Speaker 2: all of that. Like, tell me a little bit about
Speaker 2: that story, and why do you put it in?
Speaker 4: I put it in because it was just one more
Speaker 4: example of the ridiculous circumstances I find myself.
Speaker 2: In all the time.
Speaker 3: Anytime my family's with me, they're.
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, you know, it's only because of
Speaker 4: you that these things happen.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, the good and the bad.
Speaker 4: So going to Kenny Bunkport was not on my wish list.
Speaker 4: But because of my political leanings, I just was not
Speaker 4: interested in that. And I'm friends with his daughter, Barbara Bush,
Speaker 4: who is featured in the book, and they invited our
Speaker 4: family and friends to go over there to play pickleball, another.
Speaker 3: Activity I'm not interested in.
Speaker 4: And I was coerced by my siblings who were like,
Speaker 4: don't take this opportunity away from most Chelsea. We are
Speaker 4: going to Kenny Bunkport with or without you. I wanted
Speaker 4: to say good luck getting in without me. But so
Speaker 4: we went and I in order to subdue my personality.
Speaker 4: Something else I learned through therapy is to drug myself,
Speaker 4: like I have to if I'm going to deal with
Speaker 4: a person that I find difficult, I need to take
Speaker 4: an edible and then I can deal with them, like
Speaker 4: I know, to prepare myself for situations and ways in
Speaker 4: which I didn't before. So like you take out the
Speaker 4: irritation of the exchange and you're kind or and nicer
Speaker 4: to the person.
Speaker 3: So it's a win win.
Speaker 2: So and that is just an alternative to cognitive behavioral therapy.
Speaker 2: This is just exactly exactly for people who don't have
Speaker 2: time to take an edible.
Speaker 3: So, yes, I went over there and I had taken
Speaker 3: three edibles.
Speaker 4: That's that's how much I needed to make sure that
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, confront him about anything on his property,
Speaker 4: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to be like that. So and I have a
Speaker 3: habit and a history of outbursts, so.
Speaker 4: I knew that I had to really reined in, you know,
Speaker 4: So I did take three edibles when I got there.
Speaker 3: Barbara Lai Barbara Bush told me he would be getting
Speaker 3: a massage.
Speaker 4: And then I would not meet him, and I met
Speaker 4: him within five minutes of being on the pick a
Speaker 4: ball court, and I was and I was, yes, it
Speaker 4: was a ridiculous situation. And then he showed me his
Speaker 4: personal painting collection and asked me to take my sunglasses off,
Speaker 4: and then I had.
Speaker 3: To reveal to him that I was stoned.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you have these like moments that
Speaker 2: few people in the world have. And then you flip
Speaker 2: to really, you know, just reveling in isolation and how
Speaker 2: great it can feel to be alone, and how you've
Speaker 2: learned to be alone, and how when you got to
Speaker 2: Canada being Whistler, you didn't mind the mandatory time to
Speaker 2: just read and hang out in your underwear or whatever.
Speaker 2: Tell me about that and learning to accept to be
Speaker 2: alone and all of that.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the it's combined because the whole point
Speaker 4: of the Butch story also, like the kind of sub
Speaker 4: sub story to that, is that it is another example
Speaker 4: of always remaining who you are no matter what circumstances
Speaker 4: you are in, Like I was going to always remain
Speaker 4: true to myself, So that meant taking three edibles and
Speaker 4: also telling everybody when you know, like being truthful about it,
Speaker 4: like remaining who you are in situations like that, most
Speaker 4: people in their world don't get to experience. I think
Speaker 4: is another thing that we should all aim to be
Speaker 4: doing is being ourselves more. And I think the reason
Speaker 4: you get to find out who you are is by
Speaker 4: spending time alone. Like my time in Whistler that you
Speaker 4: were just referring to was like the first period of
Speaker 4: time where I was an adult and I could do
Speaker 4: just what I want when I wanted no one, even
Speaker 4: though I can kind of do that, I just to
Speaker 4: have so many responsibilities elsewhere. So I was up here
Speaker 4: just behaving like however I wanted, and I was just
Speaker 4: walking around my underwear smoking weed.
Speaker 3: I read like thirty books in two weeks. I read
Speaker 3: so many books, and I was the time of my life.
Speaker 4: I was quarantining for two weeks, so that's why I
Speaker 4: read so many books in that short amount of time.
Speaker 4: And then I just got up and skied for like
Speaker 4: fifty days in a row after and it just felt
Speaker 4: like I was I got introduced to myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. You can hear your internal voice
Speaker 2: talking to you right when you tell us about skiing
Speaker 2: and having you know you're like, why am I risking
Speaker 2: my life to chase after to elderly women who were
Speaker 2: so much faster than me skiing, like what am I doing?
Speaker 2: And we all have those moments, right, like Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: in this competitive situation, but like what am I? I
Speaker 2: don't even want to be in this competitive situation? Can't
Speaker 2: I just stop? How do you think you're able Aside
Speaker 2: from obviously this great therapist who everybody listening to this
Speaker 2: is going to want to have as a therapist after this,
Speaker 2: but how do you think for people who it's harder
Speaker 2: for it to sort of see themselves from the outside
Speaker 2: and step aside and say, like, wait a minute, look
Speaker 2: at my behavior. Right, It's a skill that you have
Speaker 2: to learn not to be so in it.
Speaker 4: It's self awareness, like actually thinking about how you're coming
Speaker 4: across rather than just coming across, like considering other people's
Speaker 4: reactions to you, which something I never really did for
Speaker 4: so long. So that was kind of a wake up call,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think for regular people it's it's
Speaker 4: it's just more listening and less talking. Like there was
Speaker 4: a period of time where I just didn't really have much.
Speaker 3: To say because I was just watching everything and it
Speaker 3: was pretty.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not it wasn't necessarily fun, but the
Speaker 4: gift of self awareness is like the best gift you
Speaker 4: can give yourself.
Speaker 3: So it's important a to be alone.
Speaker 4: It's important to be alone with uncomfortable feelings and not
Speaker 4: try to have somebody else fix.
Speaker 2: Them or heal them.
Speaker 4: It's important for you to go through emotions and know
Speaker 4: that when you come out, you're going to be okay.
Speaker 4: And it's important for all women to know that right
Speaker 4: when they're about to go through a difficult situation, that
Speaker 4: they're going to get through it and there's going to
Speaker 4: be a rainbow on the other side, I promise you,
Speaker 4: Like we all need to know that. And I think
Speaker 4: you get that from spending time alone and actually practicing,
Speaker 4: like being really into yourself in a way generous of spirit,
Speaker 4: not in a way that is you have your head
Speaker 4: up your ass in a way that it allows you
Speaker 4: to give so much more to other people because then
Speaker 4: you're so confident and solid that you're able to spread
Speaker 4: love and joy and like really kind of light people
Speaker 4: up when they're down and pick people up. Like that's
Speaker 4: a role that I take kind of seriously, not kind of,
Speaker 4: I mean it takes seriously, like I really do.
Speaker 3: It makes me proud to.
Speaker 4: Be a woman that will help another woman when they're
Speaker 4: in despair or they're distraught, or they're going through something difficult.
Speaker 4: And I think we're all just realizing how important and
Speaker 4: not just realizing, but definitely in my lifetime, it feels
Speaker 4: like a moment where women are really recognizing the power
Speaker 4: that we have and how important it is to uplift
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so I think that all comes from spending
Speaker 3: time alone.
Speaker 2: Amazing. I don't know when I spend time alone and read,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily come out with a new vantage point.
Speaker 2: So this is good, this is maybe it has to
Speaker 2: be in a ski location for it to really.
Speaker 4: Work, you know, well, to be intentional that you really
Speaker 4: like want to get you kind you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: you have to get uncomfortable with yourself.
Speaker 3: You have to be uncomfortable to get really comfortable.
Speaker 4: So it's like you have to be alone and you
Speaker 4: have to have conversations that are not necessarily you know,
Speaker 4: like you don't want to have certain conversations, but it's
Speaker 4: important to because anything can say you can say with
Speaker 4: love you don't have not everything has to be a conflict.
Speaker 4: And I think there's just so many better Now. I
Speaker 4: spend a little bit too much time alone. Like now
Speaker 4: my friends are like okay tonight, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: but I have to be.
Speaker 3: On by nine.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I'm when I'm a whistler. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm camping. You know, I'm just like so cozy.
Speaker 4: I just want to get into bed all the time.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's very important to be alone.
Speaker 2: Amazing. So what do you get from writing books?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What are some of the biggest perks? Why do you
Speaker 2: keep writing books? What is it? Why this book? Like,
Speaker 2: what do you get from it? Well?
Speaker 3: They're all different.
Speaker 4: I mean I started writing books that were just funny essays,
Speaker 4: and then my last book got more serious. I mean
Speaker 4: it's still funny, but there's serious parts to it in
Speaker 4: a serious through line. And then this book was very reflective,
Speaker 4: and I think what I get out of it is
Speaker 4: different at each With each book, I think this book, I'm.
Speaker 3: Going to get a lot.
Speaker 4: I think I'm hitting people at the right time with
Speaker 4: what I want to say. And if I didn't have
Speaker 4: anything to say, I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 3: Like now, at least I can.
Speaker 4: Say that I wouldn't say anything at all because I
Speaker 4: had this book. It was I got this book deal
Speaker 4: when I was dating Joe Coy and I had this
Speaker 4: very public love affair and everyone was just so happy
Speaker 4: for us, and so this editor was like, we would
Speaker 4: love for you, Chelsea Handler, to write a book about
Speaker 4: falling in love, like it's very unexpected, it's very public facing.
Speaker 3: And I was like, sure, no problem. But then we
Speaker 3: broke up and I was like, oh, whoopsie doodle now.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, Okay, well maybe I can.
Speaker 4: Write a book about it breaking up because kind of
Speaker 4: everything you and I have been talking about is stuff
Speaker 4: that I was applying to that breakup like, I handled
Speaker 4: it so well. I didn't yell or scream, there was
Speaker 4: no art, you know. It was just like, this is
Speaker 4: an adult decision. I have to choose me right now.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to break up, but you're giving me
Speaker 4: no choice, Like, I have to break up with you now,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to be fine. Like all of the
Speaker 4: things that we said earlier was that situation. I was
Speaker 4: able to apply to that. But that book was was
Speaker 4: based on me falling in love, and then it became oh, well,
Speaker 4: why don't you write a book about breaking up, And
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't really want to write a
Speaker 4: book about breaking up.
Speaker 3: That's not you know. And then as time went on,
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a part of my story, but
Speaker 3: that's not the story.
Speaker 4: Like that relationship was going to be its own book.
Speaker 4: That relationship turns out.
Speaker 2: To be just a chapter. And by the way, I
Speaker 2: feel like you handled out so tastefully, you know, you
Speaker 2: were like, I'm not going to go into everything. Here's
Speaker 2: what you the reader need to know, and like get
Speaker 2: out of my business. Yeah, so that was new too. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know boundaries. He's very important, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean so for this book, the reasoning, like there
Speaker 4: was all that hit, that kind of context to go
Speaker 4: along with it. And then I think I feel sort
Speaker 4: of responsible to women and want and want to give them, like,
Speaker 4: you know, some hope and like some an injection of
Speaker 4: you know, positivity, and like get after it, don't lose hope,
Speaker 4: and like be good to yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, let's all become the women that we want
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: I should know this. But have you given like a
Speaker 2: commencement address yet at a college.
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, well something like that. I think something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that is in your future. That's
Speaker 2: I'm just predicting that right now.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: That'll be my next phase.
Speaker 2: It'll be your next phase. I love it. Do you
Speaker 2: feel pressure to be funny all the time? Like what
Speaker 2: if you don't feel funny? Like, do you feel like
Speaker 2: you need to perform for people or do you can
Speaker 2: you just like, No, I.
Speaker 3: Don't ever more. I used to, I think, but I
Speaker 3: don't anymore. I mean I don't perform.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I have a good time and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm much quieter than I used to be in the
Speaker 4: in the sense of, like, you know, partying and being
Speaker 4: out with friends and stuff like that was allowed the
Speaker 4: louder lifestyle than.
Speaker 3: What I'm up to these days.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I think it's just that you
Speaker 4: just become more of who you are, right like, well,
Speaker 4: they are leaning into who you are and you're not
Speaker 4: apologizing for any of it. And that's kind of how
Speaker 4: I feel and how I felt for quite some time
Speaker 4: without understanding like the heft behind.
Speaker 2: It got it amazing. So aside from being a commencement speaker,
Speaker 2: what else do you think is going to be in
Speaker 2: your future after this book? Do you have other plans,
Speaker 2: other exciting adventures coming.
Speaker 3: I have some plans, but I can't really announce anything yet.
Speaker 4: All I can announce is that I have another Netflix
Speaker 4: special coming out, a new Netflix special that comes out
Speaker 4: on March twenty fifth, so that will be one month
Speaker 4: after my book comes out. And yes, I have a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff in the works, but nothing that I
Speaker 4: can I'm going to do some different stuff this year.
Speaker 4: I'm doing a European tour, which I haven't done in
Speaker 4: many years, which I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: But that's just like four weeks going.
Speaker 4: All through Western Europe, and then I am going to
Speaker 4: go I have my Vegas residency. I do Vegas once
Speaker 4: a month, so I have that. But other than that,
Speaker 4: I'm going to do stuff that I've never done before.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to share that, but I can't right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's okay. We got like a little teaser
Speaker 2: and that's exciting. My coffing, No, no to orry about it.
Speaker 2: Do you find when you're just hanging out with friends
Speaker 2: are you often giving advice or is it just at
Speaker 2: certain points? Or is it because I feel like you
Speaker 2: have a lot of advice to give and a lot
Speaker 2: of insights to share, is it. Is it that kind
Speaker 2: of dynamic with your friends.
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of them, it is, But a lot
Speaker 4: of them it's just stupid, funny and silly, like we're
Speaker 4: not really talking about anything serious. But I'm definitely somebody
Speaker 4: who gives their opinion on things. And yes, I think
Speaker 4: most people just need a little boost. Like my podcast
Speaker 4: that I do is callers calling in for advice. So
Speaker 4: that's that'sment speech right there.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, you could just excitt from that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over.
Speaker 2: You know, you can put it in chatcheett something. Have
Speaker 2: it already. Yeah, I mean it's quite accurate. What something
Speaker 2: that is a misconception about you? That's really irritating?
Speaker 4: I really wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, And what about advice for aspiring authors?
Speaker 3: Oh, just to first of all, anyone can write a book.
Speaker 3: We've shown that.
Speaker 4: That's been demonstrated time and time again, So you can
Speaker 4: definitely do it. It's a matter of actually sitting down
Speaker 4: and doing it. And you have to write to write,
Speaker 4: that's it. You have to sit down and write, and
Speaker 4: then you're going to write more and then you're going
Speaker 4: to write more and then you're going to have something,
Speaker 4: and it's going to take a long time, and it's
Speaker 4: going to be like but you're creating something, and that's
Speaker 4: what creating something is. It's like two steps forward, three
Speaker 4: steps back, and then success that you.
Speaker 2: Also made that sound very easy, which is great everything.
Speaker 2: It's like in the palm of my hand after this,
Speaker 2: I love it, and just quickly like, what books are
Speaker 2: you loving or favorite books of all time or books
Speaker 2: that make you laugh, or any books to recommend?
Speaker 3: I think, is it Circe or circ? I think Circe?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Is that The Great by Madeline Miller?
Speaker 2: Is it Sirce circ? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The House of Mirth is one of my favorite books ever.
Speaker 3: I love that book.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so timeless. I read that book
Speaker 4: by Kristin Hannah a few years ago.
Speaker 3: The Great Alone. I gave that to have you read that?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, that's like a subject matter I have absolutely
Speaker 4: zero interest in on multiple levels. But I was turning
Speaker 4: every single page like, oh my god, what is going
Speaker 4: to happen next?
Speaker 2: I don't know? The grade alone? That seems like it
Speaker 2: could be a subtitle for part of some of the
Speaker 2: chapters of your book.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, exactly, that would be the title. And uh,
Speaker 3: what else have I read that has like blown me away?
Speaker 4: I'm pretty impressed with Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, this guy's pretty deep, you know.
Speaker 3: So I remember reading that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: I was having him on my podcast, so I read
Speaker 3: it in like twenty four hours and that was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but right now I'm reading something called The Other Einstein,
Speaker 4: which is about Einstein's wife, but it's a fiction, so
Speaker 4: who knows.
Speaker 2: Very cool. Yeah. I had Matthew mcconaughean on the five
Speaker 2: and I spent like a couple of weeks in summer
Speaker 2: listening to the audiobook anytime I drove my kids to camp,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, this makes this really pleasant. Yeah,
Speaker 2: having the voice anyway. Okay, well, Chelsea, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming on and all of your advice and
Speaker 2: the way you're advocating for other women is really really
Speaker 2: amazing and much needed. So thank you for that. And
Speaker 2: you know, the advice to be yourself it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh awesome, Thank you so much. It was so nice
Speaker 3: to meet you.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you too. Okay, take care, byebye. Thank
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