1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hi, it's Catherine. We're sharing Chelsea's recent interview on the 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Webby Award winning daily podcast Totally Booked with Zibby, hosted 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: by Zibby Owens, the powerhouse bookstore owner and best selling author. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Dubbed NYC's most powerful book fluencer by Vulture, Totally Booked 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: delivers interviews with the best and buzziest authors like Chelsea. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: You'll hear an in depth exploration of Chelsea's New York 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Times bestselling book, I'll have what She's having. 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Chelsea 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Handler is the author of I'll Have What She's Having. 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: Chelsea is a comedian, television host, six time New York 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Times bestselling author, and advocate whose humor and candor have 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: established her as one of the most celebrated voices in 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: entertainment and pop culture. After a strong seven year run 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: as the host of ease top rated Chelsea Lately, a 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: tenure in which she was the only female late night 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: talk show host on air, she launched her documentary series 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Chelsea Does, followed by her talk show Chelsea on Netflix 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. She has penned six New York Times 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: bestselling books, five of which have reached number one, including 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen's Life Will Be the Death of Me. Her 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: upcoming seventh book, a new memoir in essays, I'll Have 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: What She's Having, will publish February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, she launched her I Heart Art 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: radio advice podcast Dear Chelsea, and embarked on the Vaccinated 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: and Horny Tour, bringing her sensational stand up set to 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: over ninety cities with one hundred and fifteen shows across 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: North America and winning the Comedy Act of twenty twenty 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: one at the People's Choice Awards. Following the success of 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: her twenty twenty HBO Max comedy special Evolution, which earned 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Chelsea a Grammy nomination for Best Comedy Album, she made 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: her return to Netflix with her critically acclaimed twenty twenty 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: two comedy special Revolution. Handler is currently on her stand 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: up tour, Chelsea Handler Live, and recently kicked off her 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: Las Vegas residency, Chelsea at the Chelsea at the cosmopolitin 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: make history as the venue's first female comedian residency. Welcome Chelsea, 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on totally booked to 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: talk about I'll have what She's having. Congratulations, Thank you, 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 2: thank you. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Okay, tell listeners what this book 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: is about, please. 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: I think this book is about infusing optimism in times 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: of despair or ease, while also serving as a reminder 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: for women, especially to check in with ourselves and make 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: sure that we are turning into the women that we 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: wanted to become. 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: I love that you manifested your whole life when you 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: were younger, like, this is it, this is who I 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: want to be. Let's see how I can make this happen. 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: I mean all I did is like I want to 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: be a teacher. I want to be a writer. Anyway, 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: pretty impressive. 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: I think that you know, especially now, what we're experiencing 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: as a country and just this backlash against women, I 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: have no doubt in us, you know, I have no 69 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: misgivings about how powerful women are. 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: And we are in this situation right. 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: Now because of that power and because of the threat 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: that that serves up to people who can't deal with, 73 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: you know, women being powerful. But we're not going anywhere, 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: so this is just another bump in the road because 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: women are powerful. We are the source of almost everything, 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: and we're so smart and like we're finally figuring that 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: out as a collective, I think, and while while the 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: backdrop is not pretty, I'm very optimistic about what is 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: to come. 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of powerful women, you early in the book 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: have a meeting with Jane Funda, who gives you some 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: rather unsavory feedback about your behavior, which you take very 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: well and actually use to re examine yourself and change 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: tell me about that and how you can take advice 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: and not be defensive. 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Well learned in therapy. 87 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: One of the first things I learned in therapy was 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: about being defensive and if you are being defensive, you're 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: usually wrong. Like, if you're right, you don't have to 90 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: defend yourself, you don't care. 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: You know the truth. 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: You know the sky is blue, that your eyes are blue, 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: that you know the laundry like the washing machine is going. 94 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: I know all of those things to be true. So like, 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: if you're right, you're right, you like you know, you 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: don't have to defend yourself. And defending yourself also makes 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: you lose control, right because you're like, no, I. 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: Did that, I did do that. 99 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: I did Like it's kind of just a lose lose situation. 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: So and then also when someone's telling you something like 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: all you can say is thank you, And if they're 102 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: completely out of their tree and they're not making like 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 4: they're not saying something that you believe to be true, 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: then who cares anyway? 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Like it only matters if it is true. 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: It's easier to hear that, but less easy to internalize. 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I'm I mean people are always assuming 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 4: that I have no you know that I have so 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: guarded or protected, like I just everything rolls off my back, 110 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: or you know that I'm so confident. People always saying 111 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: where do you get your confidence from? I'm like, where's 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: your confident? Where's your confidence? We should all be confident. 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: We should be instilling that in each other. You know, 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: I want all. 115 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Of us to be confident. 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: I want all of our young women that are coming 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: up in this world to experience the confidence that I 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: feel every day. 119 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: From your mouth to God's ears. Let's just say that 120 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: I hope that happens too. That would be amazing. You've 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: served as a role model for a lot of people 122 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: yourself whoopsie, whoopsie, or I don't know, I'm probably getting 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: their day strugopsy, whopsy, whoops. Anyway, that yes, and that 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: was so nice. So you date. You can tell the 125 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: story of it in the book. You were dating someone 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: got quite attached to his kids. You were so helpful 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: to them, you feel devoid in their lives and maintain 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: this relationship with them for so long. Talk a little 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: bit about that and sort of stepping into this role 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: which you funnily enough call yourself father in this dynamic. 131 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: But talk about that role in sort of inherited family. 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: Well, there are so many people women, I mean, people 133 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: would never know how many children there are in my life, 134 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: how many children that I'm really close to, how many 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: children that are. I mean, there's lots of them, and 136 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: not just my nieces and nephews. 137 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: Randoms, you know, random children. And so I kind of 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: found myself. 139 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: You know, I've never wanted a baby, but people automatically 140 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: assume if you don't want a child or you don't 141 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: that you're that you don't like children. 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: It's not that I don't like children. I just don't 143 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: want one. I want like a postami sandwich. I'm not interested. 144 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, I can appreciate shape them, you know, good, 145 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: go get one, but not for me. Like that message 146 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: alone is now becoming louder. 147 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: People are saying and expressing, yes, I don't want to 148 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: have a child, that's not for me, and I also 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: don't want to be married. These can be antiquated notions, 150 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: you know, when you break them all down. 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: What are all these institutions about. It's kind of all 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: pretty stupid. 153 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: So I want to, like, you know, get after life 154 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: and really impact the young people around me, to feel 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: and instill in them the way that you know, the 156 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: way that I feel about the world, which is anything 157 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: is possible and you And to have an impact. 158 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: On young people's lives like Poopsie, Woopsie and Oopsie. 159 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: Like to be there for them, to want them, want 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: My attention is basically all I need. 161 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 3: If you need me, I'm coming. 162 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: But if you don't need me, great, But you know, 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: like to be of service to young people and the 164 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: amount of young people I'm able to whose lives I 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: am able to impact because I didn't have my own children, 166 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: because I don't have a family of my own to 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: focus on, has allowed me to grow so much and 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: has given me so much more you know, purpose and 169 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: joy than I would have ever. 170 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: Hoped to feel as a person who never had children. 171 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: Well, I just I just love that. I mean babies 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: as Pastrami sandwiches. Who knew right, who knew? You tell 173 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: a lot of stories in the book about different situations 174 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: you find yourself in that are funny and sad and 175 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: all the things, one of which which I guess could 176 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: be construed as both in given your points of view. 177 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: But going to Kennebunkport, where other members of your family 178 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: were like, yes, you have to go if you've gotten 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: this invitation and meeting the former president and while you're 180 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: you know, having edibles and whatever, and like, you know, 181 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: wearing sunglasses and trying to see him for who he 182 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: is as a man and not necessarily his beliefs and 183 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: all of that. Like, tell me a little bit about 184 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: that story, and why do you put it in? 185 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: I put it in because it was just one more 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: example of the ridiculous circumstances I find myself. 187 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: In all the time. 188 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: Anytime my family's with me, they're. 189 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, you know, it's only because of 190 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: you that these things happen. 191 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, the good and the bad. 192 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: So going to Kenny Bunkport was not on my wish list. 193 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: But because of my political leanings, I just was not 194 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: interested in that. And I'm friends with his daughter, Barbara Bush, 195 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: who is featured in the book, and they invited our 196 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: family and friends to go over there to play pickleball, another. 197 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 3: Activity I'm not interested in. 198 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: And I was coerced by my siblings who were like, 199 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: don't take this opportunity away from most Chelsea. We are 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: going to Kenny Bunkport with or without you. I wanted 201 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: to say good luck getting in without me. But so 202 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: we went and I in order to subdue my personality. 203 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: Something else I learned through therapy is to drug myself, 204 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: like I have to if I'm going to deal with 205 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: a person that I find difficult, I need to take 206 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: an edible and then I can deal with them, like 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 4: I know, to prepare myself for situations and ways in 208 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: which I didn't before. So like you take out the 209 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: irritation of the exchange and you're kind or and nicer 210 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: to the person. 211 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: So it's a win win. 212 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: So and that is just an alternative to cognitive behavioral therapy. 213 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: This is just exactly exactly for people who don't have 214 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: time to take an edible. 215 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: So, yes, I went over there and I had taken 216 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: three edibles. 217 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: That's that's how much I needed to make sure that 218 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, confront him about anything on his property, 219 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: Like I don't. 220 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: Want to be like that. So and I have a 221 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: habit and a history of outbursts, so. 222 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: I knew that I had to really reined in, you know, 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: So I did take three edibles when I got there. 224 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: Barbara Lai Barbara Bush told me he would be getting 225 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: a massage. 226 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: And then I would not meet him, and I met 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: him within five minutes of being on the pick a 228 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: ball court, and I was and I was, yes, it 229 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 4: was a ridiculous situation. And then he showed me his 230 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: personal painting collection and asked me to take my sunglasses off, 231 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: and then I had. 232 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: To reveal to him that I was stoned. 233 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you have these like moments that 234 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: few people in the world have. And then you flip 235 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: to really, you know, just reveling in isolation and how 236 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: great it can feel to be alone, and how you've 237 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: learned to be alone, and how when you got to 238 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Canada being Whistler, you didn't mind the mandatory time to 239 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: just read and hang out in your underwear or whatever. 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: Tell me about that and learning to accept to be 241 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: alone and all of that. 242 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think the it's combined because the whole point 243 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: of the Butch story also, like the kind of sub 244 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: sub story to that, is that it is another example 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: of always remaining who you are no matter what circumstances 246 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: you are in, Like I was going to always remain 247 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: true to myself, So that meant taking three edibles and 248 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 4: also telling everybody when you know, like being truthful about it, 249 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: like remaining who you are in situations like that, most 250 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: people in their world don't get to experience. I think 251 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: is another thing that we should all aim to be 252 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: doing is being ourselves more. And I think the reason 253 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: you get to find out who you are is by 254 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: spending time alone. Like my time in Whistler that you 255 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: were just referring to was like the first period of 256 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: time where I was an adult and I could do 257 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: just what I want when I wanted no one, even 258 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 4: though I can kind of do that, I just to 259 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: have so many responsibilities elsewhere. So I was up here 260 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: just behaving like however I wanted, and I was just 261 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: walking around my underwear smoking weed. 262 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: I read like thirty books in two weeks. I read 263 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: so many books, and I was the time of my life. 264 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: I was quarantining for two weeks, so that's why I 265 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: read so many books in that short amount of time. 266 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: And then I just got up and skied for like 267 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: fifty days in a row after and it just felt 268 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: like I was I got introduced to myself. 269 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. You can hear your internal voice 270 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: talking to you right when you tell us about skiing 271 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: and having you know you're like, why am I risking 272 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: my life to chase after to elderly women who were 273 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: so much faster than me skiing, like what am I doing? 274 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: And we all have those moments, right, like Okay, I'm 275 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: in this competitive situation, but like what am I? I 276 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: don't even want to be in this competitive situation? Can't 277 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: I just stop? How do you think you're able Aside 278 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: from obviously this great therapist who everybody listening to this 279 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: is going to want to have as a therapist after this, 280 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 2: but how do you think for people who it's harder 281 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: for it to sort of see themselves from the outside 282 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: and step aside and say, like, wait a minute, look 283 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: at my behavior. Right, It's a skill that you have 284 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: to learn not to be so in it. 285 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: It's self awareness, like actually thinking about how you're coming 286 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: across rather than just coming across, like considering other people's 287 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: reactions to you, which something I never really did for 288 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: so long. So that was kind of a wake up call, 289 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: you know. And I think for regular people it's it's 290 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: it's just more listening and less talking. Like there was 291 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: a period of time where I just didn't really have much. 292 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: To say because I was just watching everything and it 293 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: was pretty. 294 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: You know, it's not it wasn't necessarily fun, but the 295 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 4: gift of self awareness is like the best gift you 296 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: can give yourself. 297 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: So it's important a to be alone. 298 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: It's important to be alone with uncomfortable feelings and not 299 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: try to have somebody else fix. 300 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: Them or heal them. 301 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: It's important for you to go through emotions and know 302 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: that when you come out, you're going to be okay. 303 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: And it's important for all women to know that right 304 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: when they're about to go through a difficult situation, that 305 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: they're going to get through it and there's going to 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: be a rainbow on the other side, I promise you, 307 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: Like we all need to know that. And I think 308 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: you get that from spending time alone and actually practicing, 309 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: like being really into yourself in a way generous of spirit, 310 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: not in a way that is you have your head 311 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: up your ass in a way that it allows you 312 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: to give so much more to other people because then 313 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: you're so confident and solid that you're able to spread 314 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: love and joy and like really kind of light people 315 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: up when they're down and pick people up. Like that's 316 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: a role that I take kind of seriously, not kind of, 317 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: I mean it takes seriously, like I really do. 318 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: It makes me proud to. 319 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: Be a woman that will help another woman when they're 320 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: in despair or they're distraught, or they're going through something difficult. 321 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: And I think we're all just realizing how important and 322 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: not just realizing, but definitely in my lifetime, it feels 323 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: like a moment where women are really recognizing the power 324 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: that we have and how important it is to uplift 325 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: each other. 326 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, so I think that all comes from spending 327 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: time alone. 328 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: Amazing. I don't know when I spend time alone and read, 329 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily come out with a new vantage point. 330 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: So this is good, this is maybe it has to 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: be in a ski location for it to really. 332 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: Work, you know, well, to be intentional that you really 333 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: like want to get you kind you know what I mean, 334 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: you have to get uncomfortable with yourself. 335 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: You have to be uncomfortable to get really comfortable. 336 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: So it's like you have to be alone and you 337 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: have to have conversations that are not necessarily you know, 338 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: like you don't want to have certain conversations, but it's 339 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: important to because anything can say you can say with 340 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: love you don't have not everything has to be a conflict. 341 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: And I think there's just so many better Now. I 342 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: spend a little bit too much time alone. Like now 343 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: my friends are like okay tonight, and I'm like, okay, 344 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: but I have to be. 345 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: On by nine. 346 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: Like I feel like I'm when I'm a whistler. I 347 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: feel like I'm camping. You know, I'm just like so cozy. 348 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: I just want to get into bed all the time. 349 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's very important to be alone. 350 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: Amazing. So what do you get from writing books? 351 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: Like? 352 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: What are some of the biggest perks? Why do you 353 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: keep writing books? What is it? Why this book? Like, 354 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: what do you get from it? Well? 355 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: They're all different. 356 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean I started writing books that were just funny essays, 357 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: and then my last book got more serious. I mean 358 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: it's still funny, but there's serious parts to it in 359 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: a serious through line. And then this book was very reflective, 360 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: and I think what I get out of it is 361 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: different at each With each book, I think this book, I'm. 362 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Going to get a lot. 363 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: I think I'm hitting people at the right time with 364 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: what I want to say. And if I didn't have 365 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 4: anything to say, I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything. 366 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 3: Like now, at least I can. 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: Say that I wouldn't say anything at all because I 368 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: had this book. It was I got this book deal 369 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: when I was dating Joe Coy and I had this 370 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: very public love affair and everyone was just so happy 371 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: for us, and so this editor was like, we would 372 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: love for you, Chelsea Handler, to write a book about 373 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: falling in love, like it's very unexpected, it's very public facing. 374 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, sure, no problem. But then we 375 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: broke up and I was like, oh, whoopsie doodle now. 376 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: And then I was like, Okay, well maybe I can. 377 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: Write a book about it breaking up because kind of 378 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: everything you and I have been talking about is stuff 379 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: that I was applying to that breakup like, I handled 380 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: it so well. I didn't yell or scream, there was 381 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: no art, you know. It was just like, this is 382 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: an adult decision. I have to choose me right now. 383 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: I didn't want to break up, but you're giving me 384 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 4: no choice, Like, I have to break up with you now, 385 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: and I'm going to be fine. Like all of the 386 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: things that we said earlier was that situation. I was 387 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: able to apply to that. But that book was was 388 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: based on me falling in love, and then it became oh, well, 389 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: why don't you write a book about breaking up, And 390 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't really want to write a 391 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: book about breaking up. 392 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: That's not you know. And then as time went on, 393 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: I was like, that's a part of my story, but 394 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: that's not the story. 395 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: Like that relationship was going to be its own book. 396 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: That relationship turns out. 397 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: To be just a chapter. And by the way, I 398 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: feel like you handled out so tastefully, you know, you 399 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: were like, I'm not going to go into everything. Here's 400 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: what you the reader need to know, and like get 401 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: out of my business. Yeah, so that was new too. Yes, 402 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: you know boundaries. He's very important, right, Yeah. 403 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean so for this book, the reasoning, like there 404 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: was all that hit, that kind of context to go 405 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: along with it. And then I think I feel sort 406 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: of responsible to women and want and want to give them, like, 407 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, some hope and like some an injection of 408 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: you know, positivity, and like get after it, don't lose hope, 409 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: and like be good to yourself. 410 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: You know, let's all become the women that we want 411 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: to be. 412 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: I should know this. But have you given like a 413 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: commencement address yet at a college. 414 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: No? 415 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: I have not. 416 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, well something like that. I think something like that. 417 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that is in your future. That's 418 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: I'm just predicting that right now. 419 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: I love that. 420 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: That'll be my next phase. 421 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: It'll be your next phase. I love it. Do you 422 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: feel pressure to be funny all the time? Like what 423 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: if you don't feel funny? Like, do you feel like 424 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: you need to perform for people or do you can 425 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: you just like, No, I. 426 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: Don't ever more. I used to, I think, but I 427 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: don't anymore. I mean I don't perform. 428 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: No, I mean, I have a good time and I'm 429 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: I'm much quieter than I used to be in the 430 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: in the sense of, like, you know, partying and being 431 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: out with friends and stuff like that was allowed the 432 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: louder lifestyle than. 433 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: What I'm up to these days. 434 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I think it's just that you 435 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: just become more of who you are, right like, well, 436 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: they are leaning into who you are and you're not 437 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 4: apologizing for any of it. And that's kind of how 438 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: I feel and how I felt for quite some time 439 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: without understanding like the heft behind. 440 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: It got it amazing. So aside from being a commencement speaker, 441 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: what else do you think is going to be in 442 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: your future after this book? Do you have other plans, 443 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: other exciting adventures coming. 444 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: I have some plans, but I can't really announce anything yet. 445 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 4: All I can announce is that I have another Netflix 446 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 4: special coming out, a new Netflix special that comes out 447 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: on March twenty fifth, so that will be one month 448 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: after my book comes out. And yes, I have a 449 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: lot of stuff in the works, but nothing that I 450 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: can I'm going to do some different stuff this year. 451 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: I'm doing a European tour, which I haven't done in 452 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: many years, which I'm excited about. 453 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: But that's just like four weeks going. 454 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: All through Western Europe, and then I am going to 455 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: go I have my Vegas residency. I do Vegas once 456 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: a month, so I have that. But other than that, 457 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: I'm going to do stuff that I've never done before. 458 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to share that, but I can't right now. 459 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's okay. We got like a little teaser 460 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: and that's exciting. My coffing, No, no to orry about it. 461 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: Do you find when you're just hanging out with friends 462 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: are you often giving advice or is it just at 463 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: certain points? Or is it because I feel like you 464 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: have a lot of advice to give and a lot 465 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: of insights to share, is it. Is it that kind 466 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: of dynamic with your friends. 467 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of them, it is, But a lot 468 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: of them it's just stupid, funny and silly, like we're 469 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: not really talking about anything serious. But I'm definitely somebody 470 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: who gives their opinion on things. And yes, I think 471 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: most people just need a little boost. Like my podcast 472 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: that I do is callers calling in for advice. So 473 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: that's that'sment speech right there. 474 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, you could just excitt from that. Yeah, 475 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over. 476 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: You know, you can put it in chatcheett something. Have 477 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: it already. Yeah, I mean it's quite accurate. What something 478 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: that is a misconception about you? That's really irritating? 479 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: I really wouldn't know. 480 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, And what about advice for aspiring authors? 481 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: Oh, just to first of all, anyone can write a book. 482 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: We've shown that. 483 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 4: That's been demonstrated time and time again, So you can 484 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: definitely do it. It's a matter of actually sitting down 485 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: and doing it. And you have to write to write, 486 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: that's it. You have to sit down and write, and 487 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: then you're going to write more and then you're going 488 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: to write more and then you're going to have something, 489 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 4: and it's going to take a long time, and it's 490 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: going to be like but you're creating something, and that's 491 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: what creating something is. It's like two steps forward, three 492 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: steps back, and then success that you. 493 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: Also made that sound very easy, which is great everything. 494 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: It's like in the palm of my hand after this, 495 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: I love it, and just quickly like, what books are 496 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: you loving or favorite books of all time or books 497 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: that make you laugh, or any books to recommend? 498 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: I think, is it Circe or circ? I think Circe? 499 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 4: Right? 500 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: Is that The Great by Madeline Miller? 501 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Is it Sirce circ? Yeah? 502 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: The House of Mirth is one of my favorite books ever. 503 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I love that book. 504 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so timeless. I read that book 505 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: by Kristin Hannah a few years ago. 506 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: The Great Alone. I gave that to have you read that? 507 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: I have? 508 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, that's like a subject matter I have absolutely 509 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: zero interest in on multiple levels. But I was turning 510 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 4: every single page like, oh my god, what is going 511 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: to happen next? 512 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: I don't know? The grade alone? That seems like it 513 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: could be a subtitle for part of some of the 514 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: chapters of your book. 515 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, exactly, that would be the title. And uh, 516 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: what else have I read that has like blown me away? 517 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: I'm pretty impressed with Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights. 518 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 519 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, this guy's pretty deep, you know. 520 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: So I remember reading that a couple of years ago. 521 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: I was having him on my podcast, so I read 522 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: it in like twenty four hours and that was great. 523 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but right now I'm reading something called The Other Einstein, 524 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: which is about Einstein's wife, but it's a fiction, so 525 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: who knows. 526 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: Very cool. Yeah. I had Matthew mcconaughean on the five 527 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: and I spent like a couple of weeks in summer 528 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: listening to the audiobook anytime I drove my kids to camp, 529 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, this makes this really pleasant. Yeah, 530 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: having the voice anyway. Okay, well, Chelsea, thank you so 531 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: much for coming on and all of your advice and 532 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: the way you're advocating for other women is really really 533 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: amazing and much needed. So thank you for that. And 534 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, the advice to be yourself it's pretty awesome. 535 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: Oh awesome, Thank you so much. It was so nice 536 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: to meet you. 537 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you too. Okay, take care, byebye. Thank 538 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: you for listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly moms 539 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: don't have time to read books. If you loved the show, 540 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: tell a friend, leave a review, follow me on Instagram 541 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: at Zibby Owen's and spread the word. Thanks so much. Oh, 542 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: and buy the books.