Speaker 1: Only two weeks to go in the NBA regular season,
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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome into the latest edition of This League Uncut.
Speaker 1: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We are recording on
Speaker 1: Monday night. It is still April Fool's Day, less than
Speaker 1: an hour to go East Coast time. As we start
Speaker 1: recording this, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of April second.
Speaker 1: I just was. I always had a thing with April
Speaker 1: fools Day. Just don't don't love it, Just trying to
Speaker 1: get through the day, want to avoid egg on my face.
Speaker 1: Just always feel like some ghastly April Fools. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fall for something. So I'm in the Central time zone,
Speaker 1: I'm under two hours to go. This should be a
Speaker 1: night that we're celebrating Caitlin Clark in the Elite eight
Speaker 1: nine threes forty one points. I'd much rather discuss that
Speaker 1: than April Fool's Day. But like I said, I am
Speaker 1: it's one of my many, many bizarre quirks. But can't
Speaker 1: wait for April second. Almost here, so almost here?
Speaker 4: So did any of your friends? Did anybody catch you
Speaker 4: off guard with the Aprils fool?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm I'm sure it's happening. Knock on Wood.
Speaker 1: I don't have any. I don't have any Nothing comes
Speaker 1: to mind in terms of a super humbling April Fools experience.
Speaker 1: But I just in my old age, not as sharp
Speaker 1: skills are fading, you know, I just when I woke
Speaker 1: up to them, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: sucked into some so I'm gonna fall for some tweet
Speaker 1: or something. So, like I said, knock on Wood, a
Speaker 1: little less than two hours to go from a year
Speaker 1: you know you're on the West coast. You still have
Speaker 1: a few more hours to get through. But let's see
Speaker 1: if we can get through this episode without me falling
Speaker 1: prey to something.
Speaker 4: Well, before we get to our NBA topics, I have
Speaker 4: two examples of one that would be considered an April's
Speaker 4: Fool joke, a fool's joke on me. The second one,
Speaker 4: I guess is a April Fools joke that this person
Speaker 4: I know uses pretty frequently every month. The first one
Speaker 4: is one of the friends, one of these friends, one
Speaker 4: of my guys, uh, one of my guys out here
Speaker 4: I got hoop with. He sent one, Uh sent me
Speaker 4: a text. And you know how you you can send
Speaker 4: a text. Right when you send a text, you can
Speaker 4: say something at the top and you could space it
Speaker 4: out like keep space space space, and the rest of
Speaker 4: it is way low at the bottom, and so when
Speaker 4: it comes up as a text, all you see is
Speaker 4: that first line. So my friend sends me a text.
Speaker 4: He didn't get me because I don't I don't uh,
Speaker 4: I don't operate this way. But he sent me a
Speaker 4: text saying did you mean to send those news on
Speaker 4: your Instagram story?
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, what what what.
Speaker 4: I wasn't scared because I don't operate like that, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't consume content like that.
Speaker 3: That's not what I do.
Speaker 4: And so that I click on it and it's like
Speaker 4: all the way at the bottom, it finishes saying, April fools,
Speaker 4: just kidding in case your heart dropped, send us to
Speaker 4: ten friends to scare them. And so it had me
Speaker 4: worried a little bit. But that's about it.
Speaker 1: So it did work to a degree a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I was like, I don't that's not me.
Speaker 4: Like if it was something else, like you probably got
Speaker 4: me on something else, but news, Nah, that doesn't. Nah,
Speaker 4: that's not that's not me. St So the second one, Stie,
Speaker 4: this one is vicious. I'm not gonna call my friend's
Speaker 4: name out on this, but this one is vicious. You
Speaker 4: might not even find it funny.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 4: I have a friend right who his main job is.
Speaker 4: He lives in Hollywood. He makes props, like he knows
Speaker 4: how to like make fake human beings. He knows how
Speaker 4: to make just any type of props you see on set.
Speaker 4: He knows how to do this. But he has this
Speaker 4: twisted amusement for when he goes into hotels, right, and
Speaker 4: he checks out of hotels. Before he leaves the hotel.
Speaker 4: He knows how to put pillows, wrap them up in sheets,
Speaker 4: and like he knows how to make it look like
Speaker 4: it's a body in that sheet, and he just leaves
Speaker 4: it on the bend.
Speaker 3: He leaves him on the bed like it's a wrapped
Speaker 3: up body. And the free he said the first time
Speaker 3: he did it, he had to. He wanted to.
Speaker 4: He wanted to see the house clean, the house, the
Speaker 4: house lady, the Cleveland lady's reactions, and of course the
Speaker 4: scared the living crap out of her man. And this
Speaker 4: is something he does on the regular. My dude has
Speaker 4: a little twisted amusement for doing this. But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: April Fool for him probably every month.
Speaker 1: That is some squad you roll with.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Oh, he's a set desire, he
Speaker 1: makes product. What can he make for our show that
Speaker 1: we can we can use? And then you tell a
Speaker 1: story about him terrorizing poor hotel staff man. We are
Speaker 1: off to a flying start here on the April Fools
Speaker 1: edition this league uncut checks watch mine still has an
Speaker 1: hour thirty plus minutes to go until it's April second
Speaker 1: eagerly awaiting, eagerly awaiting. April. Second, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the NBA.
Speaker 3: Chris Haynes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: You have gained your status as a year end awards
Speaker 1: voter in the NBA. And so look, we're we're basically
Speaker 1: two weeks to go in the regular season, two full
Speaker 1: weeks to go as of this April Fool's Day. So
Speaker 1: we are coming down the stretch of what to me
Speaker 1: is an MVP race that just gets more interesting, tighter.
Speaker 1: Three guys. I think only three players can win the MVP.
Speaker 1: But honestly, as of this April first, you know, I
Speaker 1: am not an official voter anymore. I don't know who
Speaker 1: has the lead, And there has been a drum beat
Speaker 1: for weeks now that it would be Jokic, Jokic, Jokic,
Speaker 1: But look, I think Sga in Oklahoma City and Luka
Speaker 1: Doncic in Dallas are right there. First of all, the Thunder.
Speaker 1: The Thunder as we speak, lead the Western Conference. I
Speaker 1: believe they finished tenth last season in the West. Perhaps
Speaker 1: Producer Ryan producer Ryan back with us after a trip
Speaker 1: to Asia and shout out to pinch producer Tim Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Tim got us through these last couple of weeks without
Speaker 1: Producer Ryan. But Producer Ryan is back. Hopefully he can
Speaker 1: check that to make sure that I'm accurate. Arise from
Speaker 1: tenth to first in the East. Obviously, the Thunder have
Speaker 1: added chet Holgrin to their team since last season. But Shay,
Speaker 1: you'll just Alexander, if the Thunder win the West, if
Speaker 1: the Thunder get the top seed in the West, that
Speaker 1: is going to bolster his case tremendously. And then Luka
Speaker 1: Doncic in Dallas, the Mavericks are the hottest team in
Speaker 1: the league. They you know, team's success has been the
Speaker 1: one thing people have held against Luka Doncic all season,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you in the city where I
Speaker 1: reside in a lot of people feel that that's an
Speaker 1: unfair situation to Doncic because the Mavericks have been so
Speaker 1: injury laid in this season and so often Luka Doncic
Speaker 1: has had to carry this team shorthanded. But the Mavericks
Speaker 1: are pretty healthy now and they are the hottest team
Speaker 1: in the league. They just ended Houston's eleven game winning streak.
Speaker 1: The MAVs only need a five and three finish to
Speaker 1: get to fifty wins. So now the team's success component.
Speaker 1: Luka has that to add to a resume that has
Speaker 1: everything else. Luka Doncic is gonna win the scoring title.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the first player in NBA history
Speaker 1: to average thirty three to eight and eight over the
Speaker 1: course of a season. So again, Jokic, Sga, Luka Doncic,
Speaker 1: good luck trying to separate these three. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you, since you are going to be casting an
Speaker 1: official league ballot two weeks out, do you have a
Speaker 1: way that you're what's kind of your approach looking at
Speaker 1: the MVP race these last two weeks.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll just say for the top two, it's fluctuating.
Speaker 4: I have not I have not predicted who will be
Speaker 4: my pick for MVP. As of right now. My top
Speaker 4: two is SGA, N and the Joker. So I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 4: You know, I got about seven games left between those
Speaker 4: two teams. I'm going to wait. But I think, you know,
Speaker 4: if we're talking, excuse me, my dog Prince is making
Speaker 4: an appearance. I don't know what's bothering him.
Speaker 1: I think I think Prince is Team Luca. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what it is. Prince, Quiet, Quiet, Okay, So
Speaker 4: with that being said, Luke, I mean, look, Luca, I
Speaker 4: think I don't. I don't have a argument against Luca
Speaker 4: for being number three. It would be heart on my ballot.
Speaker 4: I think it would be he has a tall task
Speaker 4: to try to supplant those two I mentioned prior. But
Speaker 4: you know, just as far as my MVP vote in general,
Speaker 4: the number one pick is still open. I'm gonna wait
Speaker 4: until the final final game before picking my ballot.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I would want to do the same. And
Speaker 1: I wrote that. I wrote a story Sunday night after
Speaker 1: I was doing studio pre and post for Ballet Sports
Speaker 1: Southwest on the MAVs Rockets broadcast, and then I came
Speaker 1: home and just wrote a story kind of touching on
Speaker 1: where the MVP race is. And that would be my
Speaker 1: advice to any voter. You don't have to decide today.
Speaker 1: There's two more weeks. This race is so close and
Speaker 1: so good, let it play out. Ballots are not due
Speaker 1: until tax Day, April fifteenth, the day after the regular season.
Speaker 1: Let's see where the seedings all fall. Because obviously I
Speaker 1: do think think you know, if the thunder end up
Speaker 1: one instead of two or three, that certainly gives SGA's
Speaker 1: case and added dimension. But I again, I have to say,
Speaker 1: I think with the MAVs making the climb they've made,
Speaker 1: the MAVs are up to number five in the West.
Speaker 1: I really didn't think it was possible for the MAVs
Speaker 1: to get higher than six, and suddenly they're in the
Speaker 1: four or five hunt. And again, if the MAVs finished
Speaker 1: with fifty wins after the slew of injuries that they've
Speaker 1: had this season, you know, they are one of the
Speaker 1: top five teams in terms of starting lineups and for
Speaker 1: most of the season the best you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the lone playoff team that had to make so many
Speaker 1: lineup changes, so they've dealt with nothing but injuries changes
Speaker 1: and then obviously changing their team dramatically at the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: And now they are just on a tremendous role. And
Speaker 1: I think that's made that's what's made it to me,
Speaker 1: a three player race. And then look, I'm you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, people always you know, listen, we at certain times
Speaker 4: we've even said we need to give the Eastern Conference
Speaker 4: a little bit more love. You know, sometimes we go there, Sean,
Speaker 4: are you comfortable well making the top three MVP cadates
Speaker 4: all Western Conference players. There's not a player in the top.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing for me, And again my ballot is
Speaker 1: mythical because I'm not an official voter anymore. But yes,
Speaker 1: and look, individually speaking, Janie has had a brilliant season,
Speaker 1: as good as season statistically as he's ever had. And
Speaker 1: the man is shooting sixty one percent from the field,
Speaker 1: which is just ridiculous. And then Boston has been the
Speaker 1: team of the season. They won their fifty ninth game tonight.
Speaker 1: They are running away with the Eastern Conference. And so
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, I'm sure, I'm sure both Yannis and Tatum,
Speaker 1: you know these are the ballot for MVP. The official
Speaker 1: ballot for MVP is five spots, and I would fully
Speaker 1: expect those guys to appear on most, if not all, ballots.
Speaker 1: But to me, my read of it, and this is
Speaker 1: again you could disagree, I mean, we all can disagree,
Speaker 1: but my read on it is because the Bucks are
Speaker 1: so far behind Boston. It was eleven games entering Monday's
Speaker 1: play with Milwaukee as the number two team in the conference,
Speaker 1: but eleven games behind Boston, and the fact that the
Speaker 1: Bucks went through a coaching change and such a tumultuous season.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't think those are factors that many
Speaker 1: voters will overlook, and I think that's what will keep
Speaker 1: Yannis out of the top three. The Bucks are just
Speaker 1: so far behind the Celtics and it has been a
Speaker 1: roller coaster of a season in Milwaukee, and then Tatum.
Speaker 1: Now maybe there's maybe there's more sympathy I think for
Speaker 1: Tatum because Boston is going to finish with the league's
Speaker 1: best record. My read on Tatum has been the Celtics
Speaker 1: are so good and there is so much talent in
Speaker 1: their top five or six. My my sense is that
Speaker 1: will work against Tatum's MVP case. Example, Derek White is
Speaker 1: the Celtics' fifth best player. He won Player of the
Speaker 1: Week in the East two weeks ago. So when your
Speaker 1: fifth best player is good enough to win Player of
Speaker 1: the Week, to me, that's gonna affect your MVP case.
Speaker 1: But again, these are just this is just my read
Speaker 1: on it. The floor is now yours. You tell me
Speaker 1: what you see.
Speaker 4: Okay, two things to that. I want first of all
Speaker 4: this Tatum situation. Then I'll get back to Jannis Tatum situation.
Speaker 4: Now Here, what you're saying, Derek White, that player of
Speaker 4: the week, the fifth best player. That just shows how
Speaker 4: deep and how much depth they have on that team.
Speaker 4: I get you, but for years, voters voted based off
Speaker 4: of the best player on the best team. That's notoriously
Speaker 4: that was the format for a lot of voters. The
Speaker 4: best player on the best team typically got the MVP.
Speaker 4: Now that you know, we kind of went away from that,
Speaker 4: that shift in voting. But you know, Tatum based off
Speaker 4: of that format, based on how you know people voted before,
Speaker 4: Tatum has a legitimate case for sure. I just want
Speaker 4: to say that number two on Giannis Okay Stein, I
Speaker 4: hear you talking about the Bucks are eleven and a
Speaker 4: half games back up the number one seed Boston Celtics,
Speaker 4: and they are number two in the East, and you
Speaker 4: know everything that happened with the coaching change and all that,
Speaker 4: But Stein, the Bucks still have a better record than Dallas,
Speaker 4: who you're saying Lucas should be at least number three
Speaker 4: in the MVP voting. So I don't you know, so
Speaker 4: make what you have to say about.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, because I just think it's a lot harder
Speaker 1: in the eat in the West. I mean, if the
Speaker 1: Mavericks were in the East, I think they would be
Speaker 1: closer to the Celtics than the Bucks are right now.
Speaker 1: But again that's a hypothetical. I certainly can't prove.
Speaker 4: Okay, but you can look at you can look at
Speaker 4: head to head. I believe the Bucks beat the Mavericks
Speaker 4: both times. I okay.
Speaker 1: So if we want to if we want to make
Speaker 1: this about two games, yes, if we want to make
Speaker 1: it about two games, then uh and did they definitely
Speaker 1: wanted Dallas? Because I was there and watched it with
Speaker 1: my own eyes, I honestly don't remember. Maybe your producer
Speaker 1: Ryan can look up and make sure that the Bucks
Speaker 1: indeed swept the season series. I honestly don't remember what
Speaker 1: happened when the teams played in Milwaukee. But look again,
Speaker 1: this is that's the beauty of this and that's what
Speaker 1: the NBA. Every voter can do it different. There are
Speaker 1: no set rules, there are no set criteria, and every
Speaker 1: voter sees it the way they want.
Speaker 3: To see it.
Speaker 1: So and look, I appreciate in the Boston case, especially
Speaker 1: both for Jason Tatum and Joe Missoula in the Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year race, like it's you know, the Celtics are.
Speaker 1: Their regular season resume is as good as it can be.
Speaker 1: This is going to go down as one of the
Speaker 1: great regular seasons in NBA history. And Joe Missoula, I
Speaker 1: fear for him, is probably going to be punished in
Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year race the same way that
Speaker 1: I suspect Tatum will be in the MVP race. That
Speaker 1: the team and the roster is considered so good that
Speaker 1: for voters, I think voters are going to be more
Speaker 1: apt to look elsewhere, Like in the Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year running, I think Mark Dagnault and Oklahoma City, Chris
Speaker 1: finchin Minnesota, Jamal Moseley in Orlando, and I would even
Speaker 1: say Emo, Udoka and Houston with the way the Rockets
Speaker 1: have charged in the second half to put themselves in
Speaker 1: the play and mix. Again, these are my suspicions. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be proven wrong on all of them, but my
Speaker 1: suspicion is that those guys have a better those four
Speaker 1: coaches have a better chance than Missoula. Because we have.
Speaker 3: To stop this. You did we have to stop this.
Speaker 4: We have to I'm explain why why I'm saying this, Well,
Speaker 4: first of all, Check the producer Ryan did Check Bucks
Speaker 4: won both games, and Dallas just want to put that out.
Speaker 1: So it's official Yanni's had a better season than Luca
Speaker 1: because the Bucks won two games. It's official.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Giannis is averaging a career high
Speaker 4: in points, shooting sixty from the field. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think you can make a case. I think you can
Speaker 4: make a case. Period, Stan, you can make a case.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to bring Giannis on to see how.
Speaker 1: Please do let's bring him on.
Speaker 4: I want I'm not let me see how he feels
Speaker 4: about that. You make your case case for Luca, and
Speaker 4: I have Giannis make a case for himself.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't. He wouldn't do that. He doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: He even said he doesn't want to talk about m
Speaker 1: VP stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if he hears what you guys have to say,
Speaker 4: I think he might want to talk. I think he's.
Speaker 1: Actually I know who will want to talk. The analysis
Speaker 1: will want to talk for sure.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, you know what, he might not
Speaker 4: be a bad person to bring on, cause if Yannis
Speaker 4: won't talk, the NASAs will talk.
Speaker 1: I saw that clip where he said, if you say
Speaker 1: anything out of order about the Bucks, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: all over you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I told him it's eventually coming. I'm sorry, NASA is
Speaker 4: eventually coming. Man, It's eventually coming. But Steian, I have
Speaker 4: to stop you on it, he said. Now now I forgot.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we gotta stop this Coach of the year.
Speaker 4: We're penalizing Missoula for having a great year, and you
Speaker 4: want to talk about you know, all the players.
Speaker 3: He has is so much depth.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is really his first full season of
Speaker 4: knowing he's the head.
Speaker 3: Coach, and he's done a tremendous job. It's sine.
Speaker 4: I mean, let me tell you about Listen, he may Udoka.
Speaker 4: I love the brother. That's my guy.
Speaker 3: E Mauka. I love the guy that's my dog. But
Speaker 3: we just started this playing tournament what a few years ago,
Speaker 3: and so now we're going to give Coach of the
Speaker 3: Year to somebody whose team is in the eleventh spot.
Speaker 1: I didn't say he would win. I didn't say he
Speaker 1: would win.
Speaker 3: But no, I ain't said, but he should not be
Speaker 3: over Missoula is my point.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, and my thing is this, we're.
Speaker 4: In this certificate giving generation. Everybody should get a certificate.
Speaker 4: Nobody sin I'm gonna tell you when I was in
Speaker 4: elementary school, I'm gonna tell you true story, Stein, I'm
Speaker 4: running track. I was on the relay team, the four
Speaker 4: hundred relay team. I was the league guy, so I
Speaker 4: will always start us off. So in track in elementary school,
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's like this today. You get a
Speaker 4: medal for first, second, and third. I never had a
Speaker 4: medal before. Never fifth and sixth grade. I've never had
Speaker 4: a medal before. Fifth grade year. Running the relay, I
Speaker 4: get us off to a great start. We're in second place.
Speaker 4: Then the second, second leg goals, third leg goals, and
Speaker 4: our anchor goes and then we're end up in fifth place.
Speaker 4: I cried like a baby because everybody else, all my teammates,
Speaker 4: everybody else is in these other events. They walk around
Speaker 4: with medals on there, on there on, the on the next.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get it next season.
Speaker 4: Sixth grade season. Got us off to a better start,
Speaker 4: better start number one. The first leg first, I got
Speaker 4: us in first place. Then second leg, third leg, anchor,
Speaker 4: we end up in fourth place, no medal. Again, I
Speaker 4: cried right there in front of everybody. The point I'm making, Stein,
Speaker 4: is that there was a hunger inside of me. I
Speaker 4: end up quitting track. By the way, because of that,
Speaker 4: because I felt out, you know what, I can't rely
Speaker 4: on my team.
Speaker 3: I quit.
Speaker 4: I quit. I quit because they didn't have the same
Speaker 4: appetite I had. Because if you have the same appetite,
Speaker 4: at least hold your own. If I put us in position,
Speaker 4: at least like, if we're gonna lose a spot, let's
Speaker 4: lose one spot, you know what I mean, Let's lose
Speaker 4: one spot. But I didn't get a medal at all,
Speaker 4: and I quit track. I quit track because of that,
Speaker 4: because you know what I said, I said, I gotta
Speaker 4: I gotta do individualized sports, and I ended I didn't
Speaker 4: do that. But that's what I was thinking at the time.
Speaker 4: But Stein, we created this play in now and now
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you know, every you know, the games
Speaker 4: are so much better, which is true, the games aren't
Speaker 4: so much better. But let's not forget. This is the
Speaker 4: eleventh place team three years ago. The level placed team
Speaker 4: is tanking, eleventh place team is irrelevant, eleventh place team
Speaker 4: is not being talked about, so let's not I'm not
Speaker 4: so promptly do they went on a great run, But
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not praising eleventh place team over the
Speaker 4: number one team, okay, but in coach Maszula and the
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: And that's and you know what, and that's totally fine,
Speaker 1: and I get it. But I just think you're the
Speaker 1: Rockets are not an eleventh place team. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what they are in the West standings, but they're an
Speaker 1: over five They're an over five hundred team. So in
Speaker 1: the East, two under five hundred teams are gonna make
Speaker 1: the plan. I mean, I think you have to look
Speaker 1: at the overall record too, but look on your broader point,
Speaker 1: there will be people as mad as you about both
Speaker 1: Tatum and Missoula if what I'm saying comes to fruition
Speaker 1: and my you know, this is just my forecast, this
Speaker 1: is these are my premonitions what I expect to happen.
Speaker 1: But look, you have a ballot in your hand, so
Speaker 1: I guess what you're saying is Joe Moszula is your
Speaker 1: coach of the year.
Speaker 3: I'm leaning that way. I mean, Chris Finch, Chris Finch, he.
Speaker 4: Might be like, I've still undecided, but Chris Finch, Missoula.
Speaker 3: Dagnaultagnal for sure?
Speaker 1: What about what about Mos? What about Mos? And Orlando?
Speaker 1: And Orlando?
Speaker 3: What he's done is yeah. In Orlando, what is that.
Speaker 1: Has made the playoffs? I think once since or No,
Speaker 1: they've had one winning record. I want to say since
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, Producer Ryan, can you back me up on
Speaker 1: that one. I think one winning season and two playoff
Speaker 1: berths since twenty eleven something like that and the Magic.
Speaker 1: The Magic have been a top five defense and are
Speaker 1: still in the mix for the number three seed in
Speaker 1: the East, none of which anyone saw coming. So I
Speaker 1: think Jamal Moseley has to be All of those guys
Speaker 1: would be ahead of email Udoka. I'm just saying. I
Speaker 1: think em Udoka has has forced his way into this
Speaker 1: conversation with the surge we've seen from the Rockets here
Speaker 1: in the second half, lots of it without Shanngoon, who
Speaker 1: is widely considered their best player.
Speaker 4: The best player I would listen. When it comes to
Speaker 4: that Coach of the Year award, we have usually I've
Speaker 4: say we I'm talking about the media, we have usually
Speaker 4: voted based off of who overachieved. I remember Doc Rivers
Speaker 4: won Coach of the Year back when he was coaching
Speaker 4: Orlando Magic. I want to say they were about a
Speaker 4: five hundred team, you know, we usually give it to
Speaker 4: a team that we didn't see coming, and they can
Speaker 4: be the seventh seed, they can be the sixth seed,
Speaker 4: even the eighth seed, but if they've been notoriously horrible
Speaker 4: for a while, you know, that's how we decided.
Speaker 3: I get that premise, but I.
Speaker 4: Think it takes away from the coaches who really are
Speaker 4: excelling on a year to year basis. And I don't
Speaker 4: want to dismiss I don't like like we're most improved now,
Speaker 4: Like the most Improved award is kind of.
Speaker 3: It's changed on how people vote now.
Speaker 4: Like I remember when Julius Randall got Most Improved Player.
Speaker 4: He got it averaging somewhere around twenty five points a game,
Speaker 4: twenty five or twenty six, and I looked at what
Speaker 4: he was averaging the year before.
Speaker 3: He averaged twenty two. I'm like, that's most improved.
Speaker 4: Like you go from twenty two to twenty five, that's
Speaker 4: most improved. I understand the Knicks, you know, they went
Speaker 4: to the playoffs that year. That's not most improved. To me.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I was still lean towards who had the biggest jump
Speaker 4: from year to the next. That's how I still kind
Speaker 4: of base it off of Like if you're averaging twenty
Speaker 4: two and then you come back and average twenty six,
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised, you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 4: like you got a little better, but that's not both improved.
Speaker 3: Look, but the cut of numbers and other factors as well.
Speaker 1: The fact that we're arguing like this, This is exactly
Speaker 1: what the NBA loves. And before the n Season Tournament,
Speaker 1: these debates about year underwards, that was like the number
Speaker 1: one driver of in season, regular season interest. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we have an n season
Speaker 1: tournament now, because the NBA is constantly looking for things
Speaker 1: that will get people dialed into the regular season, and
Speaker 1: you know, nothing really does it like the MVP race
Speaker 1: that is number one in terms of getting people. I mean,
Speaker 1: look how riled up Chris Haynes is with some of
Speaker 1: my suggestions. And that's what the NBA loves. They love,
Speaker 1: They love to hear us debating this stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, you think about the Phil Jackson. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about the great coaches, the Phil Jackson, the Greg pop Is,
Speaker 4: the pat Rileys. You know, how many to the Year
Speaker 4: awards you think they've won. Probably not nearly as much
Speaker 4: as they should have because we expect those teams to
Speaker 4: be great. Well, okay, if you expect them to be
Speaker 4: great and they live up to those standards, they should
Speaker 4: be rewarded, not just a coach that catch catches off
Speaker 4: by surprise or a team that catches you by surprise.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's it. I'm done.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, look I cannot wait. You know I will again,
Speaker 1: just because I'm not an official voter, I will still
Speaker 1: make all my pretend selections public when the time comes
Speaker 1: and you will have your ballot, your official ballot, and
Speaker 1: it'll be fun for us to compare what our choices work.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going to be pretty different.
Speaker 4: And this is the part of season where I don't
Speaker 4: look forward to.
Speaker 3: So for those who.
Speaker 4: Don't know, and Primestein, you can tell me your experience
Speaker 4: as well. But when you stop voting, when you stop,
Speaker 4: when you stop casting a ballot, stein were the votes
Speaker 4: made public?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: I want to say yes, But I genuinely don't remember
Speaker 1: what like it. I don't remember how long is it
Speaker 1: five years? Is it seven years? I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: when they've been made public. But I'm my last year
Speaker 1: as a voter was twenty sixteen, seventeen, I can't remember.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: The thing is, I always made my votes public anyway,
Speaker 1: so like I never really worried about it. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: every year at ESPN, every single year, I printed all
Speaker 1: my votes, so I always made them public. So I
Speaker 1: haven't really paid attention to when that came in. But yes,
Speaker 1: like you said, now, whether it's been the last three years,
Speaker 1: five years, seven years, whatever it is, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I will ask someone at the league to tell me.
Speaker 1: So the next time we do one of these, we
Speaker 1: can we can put a specific timeframe on. It's definite,
Speaker 1: less than ten years. But now, at the end of
Speaker 1: every season, they print a list showing exactly who everyone
Speaker 1: voted for.
Speaker 4: Yes, they do so the chagrin of a lot of
Speaker 4: my fellow brethren and sister and in this media fraternity here.
Speaker 1: Why because you got people calling you, yelling at you
Speaker 1: after the fact.
Speaker 3: Well that happens.
Speaker 4: But about two weeks before the season, I've already had
Speaker 4: two stars call the text me making sure I'm voting
Speaker 4: for them already. You know, they have they have bonuses,
Speaker 4: they have triggers and all that stuff. And so that's
Speaker 4: always a tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm so glad I'm not a voter.
Speaker 1: I hate that stuff. And look the bonuses, you all
Speaker 1: star bonuses, uh, you know, award bonuses. Those have always
Speaker 1: been there and they you know, they're substantial. But it's
Speaker 1: you know, the real problem, the major, major issue is
Speaker 1: you know, the All NBA stuff, because that becomes a
Speaker 1: deal where it's like millions and millions of dollars writing
Speaker 1: on whether so and so is a third team All
Speaker 1: NBA pick, And yeah, I just I want no part
Speaker 1: of that anymore.
Speaker 4: So that's the point I don't look forward to. But
Speaker 4: aside from that, yeah, it'd be so it's been a
Speaker 4: few years since I haven't, you know, cast a ballot.
Speaker 4: But yeah, aside from that, yeah, that's what I don't
Speaker 4: look forward to. But it being made public to cost
Speaker 4: some riffs. You know, players they look, they see they
Speaker 4: want to see who you vote. And that's why I
Speaker 4: don't make any promises unless I know for sure. There's
Speaker 4: been a time where MVP, who actually won MVP called
Speaker 4: and asked me who I was voting for, and at
Speaker 4: that time it was probably a week left in the season,
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit longer than that. And I knew
Speaker 4: I was voting for that person, so I was able
Speaker 4: to tell that individual, you have my vote for that.
Speaker 4: But right now I don't have like MVP, don't know
Speaker 4: yet Coach of the Year, do not know yet most Improved.
Speaker 4: I gotta look more into that sixth man. I'm thinking
Speaker 4: right now. Off the top of my hand, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: Malik Monk. I think that's where I'm leaning towards.
Speaker 1: But I will What a brutal situation for Sacramento to lose.
Speaker 1: They lose Kevin Hurder to a season ending shoulder injury,
Speaker 1: they lose Malik Monk for at least four to six
Speaker 1: weeks with a knee injury, and Malik Monk is indeed
Speaker 1: the leader in the six man race, and they lose
Speaker 1: both games of their baseball series against Dallas. The Mavericks
Speaker 1: have zoomed up to fifth after sweeping those two games
Speaker 1: in Sacramento. The Kings now down in eighth in the West,
Speaker 1: and you know, Phoenix with a big win on this
Speaker 1: Monday night beating New Orleans lifts the Suns to seventh
Speaker 1: and gives the Suns half game cushion over Sacramento in eighth.
Speaker 1: Lakers have been very good lately, solidly in ninth and
Speaker 1: then Golden State finally got a little bit of breathing
Speaker 1: room with Houston finally losing a game, Mavericks going to
Speaker 1: Houston and the Rockets eleven game winning streak, and Golden
Speaker 1: State with a win in San Antonio on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: The Warriors have now established a two game lead over
Speaker 1: the Rockets, and the Warriors will now play Dallas twice
Speaker 1: this week, play host to the Mavericks on Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: and then the Warriors are in Dallas. I will see
Speaker 1: them on Friday on Thursday night, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: You have the Kings and the Knicks, and man another team,
Speaker 1: the Knuts, who are just going through it right now
Speaker 1: injury why And honestly, that's the whole East. I think
Speaker 1: Boston is pretty much the healthiest contender in the East
Speaker 1: right now, on top of everything else that the Celtics
Speaker 1: have working. When you look at all these other teams
Speaker 1: that are chasing Boston, Milwaukee has obviously dealt with injuries
Speaker 1: all season long, same with the Calves. The Knicks don't
Speaker 1: know when they're getting og Annoby or Julius randallback. Orlando's
Speaker 1: had good health, but the Pacers, beyond losing Benedict Maturin,
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton has not been at the same level as
Speaker 1: he was in the first half of the season, trying
Speaker 1: to recover from that terrible spill he took on the
Speaker 1: floor earlier this season, He's still trying to find his
Speaker 1: way back to his best. Miami nothing but injuries, And
Speaker 1: really we should We did so much talk on who
Speaker 1: the new MVP might be. We really need to talk
Speaker 1: about the reigning MVP. Joe l Embiid is coming back
Speaker 1: this week. Not gonna happen to day, but it looks
Speaker 1: like by weeks and he will be back on the
Speaker 1: floor after basically missing seven weeks for the Sixers with
Speaker 1: his knee injury sustained in San Francisco in late January.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, man, as a Joel Embiid fan,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I'm worried for him. I just I hope
Speaker 1: for his sake that he's not coming back too soon.
Speaker 1: I think ultimately he's gonna play because he wants to play,
Speaker 1: And you know, he was having a historic first half
Speaker 1: of the season, scoring better than only Wilt Chamberlain knows
Speaker 1: this feeling in NBA history. Joel Embiid was scoring better
Speaker 1: than a point a minute when he sustained his injury.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Sixers without him, it's it's brutal fourteen
Speaker 1: and twenty seven, I believe without him. So they desperately
Speaker 1: need him back. But man is does he have time
Speaker 1: to get right before the playoffs?
Speaker 3: You know there's all hold on the play in?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, I mean that thing they're in
Speaker 1: the play in and it just you know, Joe Ellenbiid
Speaker 1: has been through so many injuries, like there is that
Speaker 1: chatter and that question would he be better off? Should he?
Speaker 1: Should he sit out the rest of the season to
Speaker 1: try to get as right as he can for next season,
Speaker 1: And clearly he doesn't want to do that. That's not
Speaker 1: the road, that's not the path he wants to take.
Speaker 4: I remember I talked with him before it was it
Speaker 4: was a matter of fact, it was the day he
Speaker 4: got injured. I was doing that game in Golden State
Speaker 4: and he was. He told me that, you know, this season,
Speaker 4: because we were the MVP. Chatter was the MVP dialogue?
Speaker 4: Will he play enough games to win MVP? Exactly? And
Speaker 4: at that point he was like man, my focus is
Speaker 4: not on these games, he said. If I'm a missout
Speaker 4: on MVP because of me having to sit certain nights,
Speaker 4: he said, so, he said, because I didn't go into
Speaker 4: the playoffs healthy last year and that hurt us. He said,
Speaker 4: So that's my overwhelming goal. And then that same day,
Speaker 4: that catastrophic injury took him out. I mean, that's like.
Speaker 1: He's been you know, has he ever been able to
Speaker 1: go into the postseason healthy? And the answer is no.
Speaker 1: Every single year, something happens late in the season and
Speaker 1: he's playing through some sort of injury in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And so that's just why, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: see him have a postseason run or two or three
Speaker 1: where he is not physically compromised. And it's going to
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see what the state of Embiid's
Speaker 1: game is when he does come back, how long it
Speaker 1: takes him to get back up to full NBA speed.
Speaker 1: And then, as you said, they're in the play in
Speaker 1: right now, they are entering Tuesdays playing now after Monday
Speaker 1: night's results, let me just make sure I've got this right.
Speaker 1: So it's two and a half games back of the Pacers.
Speaker 1: The Pacers have only six games left. Now the Sixers
Speaker 1: have seven games left. Can Philly get to six and
Speaker 1: they would have to leap frog Miami, which is also
Speaker 1: trying to get to six. But as it stands, if
Speaker 1: the standings as we speak turn out to be the
Speaker 1: way the standings look after all the games on April fourteenth,
Speaker 1: Miami would play Philly in a playing game, and then
Speaker 1: the loser of that game would play the nine to
Speaker 1: ten winner for the number eight seeds. So in the
Speaker 1: current scenario, both Miami and Philly are looking at playing
Speaker 1: either Boston or Milwaukee in round one, which is a
Speaker 1: tough assignment on both sides of the coin. I don't
Speaker 1: think the top seeds like that anymore than the Heat
Speaker 1: or the seventy six ers do.
Speaker 4: That's brutal, brutal, and but you know it's going to
Speaker 4: be interested in. It'll make the play and even more appealing.
Speaker 4: You got Philly with be in there with Joel Embiid,
Speaker 4: hopefully you know he stays healthy and able to play
Speaker 4: to his star level potential. Then in the Western Conference
Speaker 4: you got Lakers and Golden State and then now Sacramento
Speaker 4: and now Phoenix as of right now. So it's going
Speaker 4: to be some good. It's going to be a great
Speaker 4: what do they call those the appetized, it'd be great
Speaker 4: appetizers before the playoffs kickoff.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know Joel pretty well. So let's
Speaker 1: let's pretend that Joel embiid rang you up and said,
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm thinking about coming back, but I'm also
Speaker 1: thinking about shutting it down for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: What would you tell him to do? What would be
Speaker 1: your advice?
Speaker 4: Well, if he's sticking those two things, then obviously the
Speaker 4: injury is still a major concern. If he's still thinking
Speaker 4: about shutting it down. So if that's the case, then
Speaker 4: I will say I will probably if he's asking, I
Speaker 4: would probably say, you know, go ahead and shut it
Speaker 4: down because if you're not ready at this point, because
Speaker 4: this is a scary time. Sn remember like he's he's
Speaker 4: taking off so much time. People like people that play sports,
Speaker 4: like you, you will understand. It's tyn you understand as well.
Speaker 4: Is that like when.
Speaker 1: When play he just basically said, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't play sports. That was that that was kind of
Speaker 1: a shot at me.
Speaker 4: That's not that's not that's not what I said. That's
Speaker 4: not what I said. I included you. I included you.
Speaker 4: There was inclusion of a sign into the equation.
Speaker 1: Because I'm not in the league at catch straight. All right,
Speaker 1: it's all.
Speaker 4: Right, you're okay, You're okay, sign You're okay, You're in there.
Speaker 4: But like these guys have been playing already, like they
Speaker 4: they're already in a group, their bodies are conditioned for
Speaker 4: this and then the playoffs or to play in n
Speaker 4: CUA A tournament type style. Feel you take it up
Speaker 4: even a notch above that. And so you're asking the
Speaker 4: guy who's been out for months to just come into
Speaker 4: playing in that type of a level, that type of intensity,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know that he can properly train himself
Speaker 4: to get his body ready for that style of play.
Speaker 4: And if the injury is still a concern that's still
Speaker 4: in the back of your head, you're not ready, and
Speaker 4: you'll risk even more time or even a more of
Speaker 4: a devastating receptible and more of a devastating injury. So
Speaker 4: that will probably be what I would would say if
Speaker 4: he were to ask my opinion. He's not gonna ask me, though, No, it's.
Speaker 1: Just a funny. It's just a fun hypothetical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what it's. It's it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 4: He's a big man. The history, the history of injuries
Speaker 4: that that he's had as well, like that all has
Speaker 4: the factory into your decision making process.
Speaker 1: One thing, though, you just reminded me, I do gotta
Speaker 1: get give you some props here, because this is funny
Speaker 1: that this has actually happened. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you've been paying attention to this. If you remember a
Speaker 1: couple episodes back, we were going through the standings with Minnesota, Tim,
Speaker 1: and I said, remember we did a draft. We each
Speaker 1: each drafted what are the three storylines that were most interested?
Speaker 1: And you came up with that nonsensical suggestion that you
Speaker 1: were waiting to see whether Detroit could catch Washington. Well
Speaker 1: you should be. You should be celebrating because Washington had
Speaker 1: won three in a row and we did that. Pod
Speaker 1: Since since then, the Wizards have lost to both the
Speaker 1: Pistons and the Nets, and now the Pistons are only
Speaker 1: a game back of Washington in that riveting battle for
Speaker 1: spots thirteen and fourteen in the East that you apparently
Speaker 1: can't get enough of. And now that the race is
Speaker 1: on May, maybe maybe the Pistons can escape the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 4: Cellar, I told you, Stein, a little Birdie told me something. Steine.
Speaker 4: I told you, man, the Wizards have lost three in
Speaker 4: the row. Now, Stein, and you were questioning me.
Speaker 3: He was like, why did you pick them?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: I think what I was really questioning was why you
Speaker 1: found that so Ryan. What we did was we said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a draft. We're gonna pick what we
Speaker 1: each see as the three most interesting storylines in the
Speaker 1: standings from here to the finish line. And I drafted
Speaker 1: a list of like seven things. So no matter what,
Speaker 1: I let Chris go first, So no matter what he picked,
Speaker 1: I would have an answer. And let's just say that
Speaker 1: the battle at the bottom of the East between Washington
Speaker 1: and Detroit was not on my board, so I did
Speaker 1: not have to dig too deep into my lists come
Speaker 1: up with three nominations.
Speaker 4: At lastly, Stin, I want to let's bring producer Ryan
Speaker 4: up the speed on last story time with Chris Haynes.
Speaker 3: Because I would have shout out.
Speaker 4: I would have tweeted, I got a tweet, I want
Speaker 4: to shout this individual out. I don't know if you've
Speaker 4: seen it, Stein, but okay, the tweet came from his
Speaker 4: handle is mister ESPN, but it looked like it looked
Speaker 4: like it looks like his name is Trip McNeeley. He
Speaker 4: said at Chris by Hayes The Streets needs a marriage
Speaker 4: podcast during the off season Man hashtag story time with
Speaker 4: Chris hashtag Popeye's Now producer Ryan weigh in on this.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it real quick. Tell you what happened.
Speaker 4: You tell me if if you agree or not or whatever.
Speaker 4: Sty I mean, Producer Ryan. I was telling him Stein
Speaker 4: about my wife when we were younger, in our late
Speaker 4: teens early twenties, we would get in the arguments in
Speaker 4: the car all the time, and she would be and
Speaker 4: she would just get so mad, let me have the
Speaker 4: car down, let me have and she would just get
Speaker 4: out the car, no matter where we're at, just get
Speaker 4: out the car and start walking. And so I had
Speaker 4: the you know, you got two options, produce a Ryan.
Speaker 4: You either going to pull up to the on the
Speaker 4: side of her and try to convince her to get
Speaker 4: back in the car. Baby, come on, let's work this out.
Speaker 4: Get back in the car, or you're driving home and
Speaker 4: let her walk. But produce a Ryan. You know, if
Speaker 4: you drive home and let her walk. The relationship is over.
Speaker 4: So that's what it is. So I told Sin not
Speaker 4: too long ago, for the first time, I pulled what
Speaker 4: my wife pulled back in the day. We're at pope'sm
Speaker 4: and drive through. I forgot what the argument was about.
Speaker 4: We're about three and a half miles away from home.
Speaker 4: She says something that got on my nerves and I
Speaker 4: was like, Man, get me out this car. I got
Speaker 4: out the car, I started walking. So as I'm walking,
Speaker 4: Producer Ryan, I'm like, Man, why did I do that?
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, I'm thinking back to when she used
Speaker 4: to do that back in the day. She's going to
Speaker 4: have to pass byby after she gets out that drive through,
Speaker 4: Producer Ryan, you know, she just passed right by me,
Speaker 4: didn't stop like I would have done back in the day.
Speaker 3: So that's what that's. That's what I was like, it's
Speaker 3: messed up as a double stand.
Speaker 1: Wait, they're leaving out the best and most confounding part
Speaker 1: of the whole story, which was which he was more
Speaker 1: than three miles away from home and decided to walk
Speaker 1: the three plus miles instead of just calling an uber
Speaker 1: to bring him home.
Speaker 4: I told, I told my reason for that producer Ryan.
Speaker 4: I feel like if I was going to really be
Speaker 4: about the smoke and get out the car, I couldn't
Speaker 4: sat and call an uber.
Speaker 3: I had to be about it.
Speaker 4: I had to see the whole walk through.
Speaker 3: And that was my way.
Speaker 4: Like me like me pulling up in an uber and
Speaker 4: she seeing that, it's like I'm a punk. Like I
Speaker 4: got out, I act like I was about to smoke,
Speaker 4: and I and called an uber. I'm like, I had
Speaker 4: to see it through. I had to walk the whole way.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it again. But it's a double standard, Ryan,
Speaker 4: because if I if I'm if, I would have just
Speaker 4: passed my wife up while she's walking, even though she
Speaker 4: chose to get out the car and walk. If I
Speaker 4: just passed by her and went home, the relationship is over.
Speaker 4: But she can do that to me and just passed
Speaker 4: by me and see. And when I got home, I said,
Speaker 4: why are you to stop? She was like, I figure,
Speaker 4: I figured you need time to cool off, so I'll
Speaker 4: let you cool off. Right. So my question to you Ryan,
Speaker 4: your wife, have you ever experienced that your wife getting
Speaker 4: out the car.
Speaker 6: No, I've never experienced that, but I am not surprised
Speaker 6: in the least bit that this turned out exactly as
Speaker 6: you explained it, that she would leave you out there
Speaker 6: and just go, I'll see you at home.
Speaker 3: After all that time, her doing that? She all Ryan.
Speaker 4: So if your wife hypothetical, you haven't been through that,
Speaker 4: and this is good. You have a great relationship. So
Speaker 4: if she gets out that car and just I'm walking, kid,
Speaker 4: I can't stand you right now, leave me alone, I'm walking,
Speaker 4: she gets out the car, what are you doing from
Speaker 4: that point on?
Speaker 7: Following along until she gets back the car?
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at you, rightI what are you doing with SI?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Of course I'm stopping. But I think we're missing I
Speaker 1: think we're missing the larger hypothetical here, which is, are
Speaker 1: you heeding this call that you want to turn this
Speaker 1: into a that you want to you want to devote
Speaker 1: some episodes to pure discussion. He said in the off
Speaker 1: season marital and relationship topics, right the bran, What do
Speaker 1: you think when you hear that?
Speaker 7: Ryan, Look, especially in the off season, I'm all for it,
Speaker 7: and I just have I have this one detail that's
Speaker 7: stuck in my head now about what happened here, what
Speaker 7: happened to what happened to the Popeyes? Did you get Popeyes?
Speaker 4: Did she.
Speaker 1: That was discussed in the last episode.
Speaker 3: That was discussed.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was wow. You did not didn't get me Popeye's.
Speaker 7: That's tough.
Speaker 1: Three and a half mile walk home and no.
Speaker 4: Food stop, Stein producer Ryan. If the shoe was on
Speaker 4: the other foot, it's a totally different story. But me,
Speaker 4: I had to walk as the man, I'm getting passed
Speaker 4: by on I'm not getting my food order after an
Speaker 4: hour and a half walk. It doesn't It's not right,
Speaker 4: it's not right.
Speaker 3: So that was it.
Speaker 4: We caught you up to speed and that's what and
Speaker 4: that's what our good friend on Twitter slash x mister
Speaker 4: Trick McNeely, the streets needs a marriage podcast during the
Speaker 4: off season.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. We're gonna really have to
Speaker 1: sit down and have a long discussion.
Speaker 3: Oh, my wife heard it. So I told my wife.
Speaker 1: Hold on, which I was worried about.
Speaker 3: I was hold On, I got hold on. We gotta
Speaker 3: add this just a moment.
Speaker 4: Let me get hurt because she said she gotta tell
Speaker 4: her truth now because she said I was leaving stuff out.
Speaker 4: Hold On, take two minutes. The street sneeze is starting.
Speaker 4: Hold On, it's not a Mercy come here. Hurry up,
Speaker 4: hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
Speaker 3: Your truth. You gotta add your truth.
Speaker 4: You gotta add your truth. So sign and producer Ryan
Speaker 4: beg for your your version of what happened from the papas.
Speaker 4: Can you hear?
Speaker 3: Yes? So this is the wife.
Speaker 1: And now we welcome in Charlotte Haynes to give her
Speaker 1: version of events to see if they really line up
Speaker 1: with the story that we've been told by Chris B. Haynes.
Speaker 1: Are you are you aware of the verse version that
Speaker 1: we have been told?
Speaker 8: I am. Yes.
Speaker 5: Chris shared it and I told him I'm going to
Speaker 5: have to go and listen to this on my own
Speaker 5: to see if he's fabricated, and I said, I need
Speaker 5: to fact check Chris as usual.
Speaker 8: So yes, I have heard his version, though so accurate.
Speaker 1: How accurate it was it? You know what?
Speaker 5: Now you already noticed that he went from three miles
Speaker 5: to three point five miles. So that was one that
Speaker 5: was a lie, but just just the beginning of it.
Speaker 5: It was I mean, if you some people know he
Speaker 5: can throw temper tantrums, you know. So it was simply
Speaker 5: I asked, hey, do you what do you want to eat?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 5: I don't know what I want to eat, So then
Speaker 5: I said, okay, I'll choose. We were already in the area,
Speaker 5: so I chose Popeye and then he just went off,
Speaker 5: I'm getting out. He got out of the car, and
Speaker 5: I'm the type of person where it's like, hey, if
Speaker 5: you're upset, I'm gonna let you be upset. I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna chase you down so we can have a whole argument.
Speaker 5: And also, you know, we have the kids and the
Speaker 5: criss I was just like, let me go ahead and
Speaker 5: let them walk. And of course I was like USTe,
Speaker 5: and I said, hey, if he doesn't want to walk,
Speaker 5: he can uber. So you know, so as we're driving
Speaker 5: the kids and now we're driving back home and I
Speaker 5: see him, but he gives me like a look like
Speaker 5: he's still mad.
Speaker 8: So I'm like, looks like he wants to stay.
Speaker 5: Out there, and I was like, well, I guess we'll
Speaker 5: see him at home. But I also was I noticed
Speaker 5: he had on Air forces and if anyone knows about
Speaker 5: air forces, they're like rigid shoes, they're not walking shoes.
Speaker 8: And I was like, why would he want to walk?
Speaker 8: Like I'm waiting for him to call and want me.
Speaker 5: But he felt he had to, and so you know,
Speaker 5: he was just he really created a problem for himself.
Speaker 5: And I was just like, well, I guess i'll see
Speaker 5: him when he gets home.
Speaker 4: Ok. Those other times were back when we're younger.
Speaker 3: You just jump out the car.
Speaker 8: Lies and fabrication, Lies and fabrication.
Speaker 5: Because number one, if I did get out of car,
Speaker 5: he's not pulling on the side saying sweetie darling, honey.
Speaker 8: It was all I was like, who is this guy?
Speaker 8: Is this a guy from a movie? Like this is
Speaker 8: he's on the side, get in here?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy?
Speaker 5: So yeah, lies the way I am bring back back
Speaker 5: when X was Twitter and they do that fact check
Speaker 5: and you know, false information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, community, maybe we need some community.
Speaker 4: And then I wasn't like I wasn't like, oh sweetie
Speaker 4: baby getting the car.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, you're crazy to get get in the car.
Speaker 3: That's not lying. You did jump out the car. Did
Speaker 3: you jump on the car?
Speaker 8: Jump out?
Speaker 5: I just said I'm not getting in this car until
Speaker 5: you are nice.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 4: And then you got in the car every single time.
Speaker 8: No, sometimes I just went on my married way. Okay,
Speaker 8: well this thing came along side.
Speaker 4: She wanted to tell her version.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't tell her version, So that's that's it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't you know.
Speaker 4: It's just a little discreptancease here and there.
Speaker 1: Both producer right and I were just the touch surprise
Speaker 1: that when he did make the three mile walk home
Speaker 1: or three point five miles according to some sources, whichever,
Speaker 1: whatever the distance was, we were just a little curious
Speaker 1: why there was no Popeyes for him when he got home.
Speaker 5: Oh you but remember, as I stated in the beginning,
Speaker 5: he said he didn't know what he wanted, and he
Speaker 5: decided as we were as I just after I made
Speaker 5: a decision, then he decided he at least didn't want Popeyes,
Speaker 5: so I said, okay. And and then another fact is
Speaker 5: there was enough for him if he did want something,
Speaker 5: because he does that sometimes too. He'll say I don't
Speaker 5: want anything, then you don't bring him something. Then he's
Speaker 5: mad that you didn't bring it for him. So then
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I tried to kill kill two
Speaker 5: birds with one stone.
Speaker 8: I thought I made the right decision.
Speaker 5: I was kind of waiting because we also we stayed
Speaker 5: in the area for a little while. That's the other
Speaker 5: funny thing, because we thought he was kidding because it
Speaker 5: was just so like what.
Speaker 8: So we're like waiting. I'm like this because wiener Snissa
Speaker 8: was next door and he usually likes that. So we're
Speaker 8: like waiting. I'm like, where did he go?
Speaker 5: And so as I drove off, I thought he just
Speaker 5: called an uber and got in an Uber. And then
Speaker 5: as we were driving closer to the house, I'm like,
Speaker 5: did he really walk over here?
Speaker 8: And he's still looking upsats I said, Okay, all right, this.
Speaker 1: Is a key new information because if I'm understanding the
Speaker 1: story correctly, your choice of Popeyes factored into him leaving
Speaker 1: the car. So yes, yes, if that's true, Chris Haynes,
Speaker 1: why were you upset about not having food that you
Speaker 1: didn't want waiting for you when you got home?
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I didn't want pop Pas from the get go,
Speaker 4: but still, as the husband and provider of this family here,
Speaker 4: I would feel like to have the option of having
Speaker 4: some Popeyes here since that I am part of family.
Speaker 3: I mean, was I kicked out the family that day?
Speaker 7: Stein?
Speaker 3: You don't know.
Speaker 1: We can't.
Speaker 7: We cannot allow this when the fight starts. Because you
Speaker 7: didn't want Popeyes, you can't expect your fair share of
Speaker 7: Popeyes waiting for you at the house.
Speaker 1: That's that's not as usual. Producer Ryan cuts right to
Speaker 1: the chase, just like just like in the famed Aaron
Speaker 1: Haynes incident. Producer Ryan settled this quickly.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 5: You need you need to have the little gabbl and
Speaker 5: just just you know, put your put your decision down.
Speaker 3: Hey, gentlemen, I asked you.
Speaker 4: While she was talking, she was scrolling on her phones
Speaker 4: going to GPS, trying to actually get the knowledge of
Speaker 4: how far it is. She thought she thought I was
Speaker 4: really fabricating the knowledge. I just did it. It is
Speaker 4: exactly three miles three point oh exactly, and I.
Speaker 5: Will I will verify that it is because we can't
Speaker 5: always trust what he says here.
Speaker 3: But I'm a journalist.
Speaker 4: You can't say that I just did.
Speaker 5: You guys need me to fact check, you need me
Speaker 5: to I said. I was listening to him, like, hold on,
Speaker 5: what did you say? I need to go and hear
Speaker 5: this for myself, because.
Speaker 8: No, he does this.
Speaker 5: But but Producer Ryan, I still had the Popeyes because yes,
Speaker 5: that's how he thinks. Even if he's throwing a tempertansion
Speaker 5: about not wanting something, if he don't bring it even
Speaker 5: though he didn't want it. He's going to throw another tempertension,
Speaker 5: which is why when I saw him, I said, let
Speaker 5: me go ahead and let.
Speaker 8: Him continue to walk home.
Speaker 4: Okay, just know, next time you picture fit and want
Speaker 4: to jump out the car, I'm letting you walk home.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe that.
Speaker 4: Thank you, wifey by. Sorry about that. Guys.
Speaker 1: All right, so I guess we'll hear what the people
Speaker 1: have to say if we still have if we are
Speaker 1: still qualified to be doing relationship discussions on this League
Speaker 1: uncut after this episode. I'm not sure, but the people
Speaker 1: will let us know.
Speaker 3: That was that was for you, mister McNally. Mister mcn.
Speaker 8: You you need it.
Speaker 1: And yet again you take this podcast in directions we
Speaker 1: could have never imagined. And on that note, we are
Speaker 1: going to sign off with this edition of This League uncut.
Speaker 1: Mark Stein, Chris Haynes, special guest Charlotte Haynes, and producer
Speaker 1: Ryan That's why he needed a two week vacation away
Speaker 1: from us because of episodsodes like this. All right, you
Speaker 1: guys know what to do. Please follow the show, rate
Speaker 1: the show, review the show. Come on, was this not
Speaker 1: a five star episode. Was this not five star podcast entertainment?
Speaker 1: Dare I say it was? Chris and I will be
Speaker 1: back together very soon for another edition of This League Uncut.
Speaker 1: Last week, I wasn't able to see any NBA games,
Speaker 1: but I've got Hawks and Warriors back to back coming
Speaker 1: into Dallas this week. Chris Haynes, as mentioned, he's got
Speaker 1: a sideline game Nicks and Kings, so we will have
Speaker 1: lots more to discuss the next time we do this. Everybody,
Speaker 1: thanks a mil for listening, and that'll do it for us.
Speaker 2: See you next time.
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Speaker 3: Chris Haynes and Mark Stein