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Speaker 1: All that is next here on a new edition of

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut. In you'rel of twenty four

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Speaker 2: hour NBA news. This you lose, Chris Hands, Let's come

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Speaker 2: full work's time. It's so time.

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Speaker 3: This League Uncut is underway in on fire. This should

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome into the latest edition of This League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We are recording on

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Speaker 1: Monday night. It is still April Fool's Day, less than

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Speaker 1: recording this, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of April second.

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Speaker 1: I just was. I always had a thing with April

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Speaker 1: Just always feel like some ghastly April Fools. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: So did any of your friends? Did anybody catch you

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm I'm sure it's happening. Knock on Wood.

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Speaker 4: Well, before we get to our NBA topics, I have

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Speaker 1: That is some squad you roll with.

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Speaker 3: Chris Haynes, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You have gained your status as a year end awards

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Speaker 1: There's two more weeks. This race is so close and

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Speaker 1: So and look, I appreciate in the Boston case, especially

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Speaker 3: To stop this. You did we have to stop this.

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Speaker 4: We have to I'm explain why why I'm saying this, Well,

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Speaker 4: Oh you know what, you know what, he might not

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Speaker 3: Dagnaultagnal for sure?

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Speaker 1: What about what about Mos? What about Mos? And Orlando?

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Speaker 1: And Orlando?

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Speaker 3: What he's done is yeah. In Orlando, what is that.

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Speaker 1: Has made the playoffs? I think once since or No,

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Speaker 1: they've had one winning record. I want to say since

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, Producer Ryan, can you back me up on

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Speaker 1: that one. I think one winning season and two playoff

438
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Speaker 1: berths since twenty eleven something like that and the Magic.

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Speaker 1: The Magic have been a top five defense and are

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Speaker 1: still in the mix for the number three seed in

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Speaker 1: the East, none of which anyone saw coming. So I

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Speaker 1: think Jamal Moseley has to be All of those guys

443
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Speaker 1: would be ahead of email Udoka. I'm just saying. I

444
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Speaker 1: think em Udoka has has forced his way into this

445
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Speaker 1: conversation with the surge we've seen from the Rockets here

446
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Speaker 1: in the second half, lots of it without Shanngoon, who

447
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Speaker 1: is widely considered their best player.

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Speaker 4: The best player I would listen. When it comes to

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Speaker 4: that Coach of the Year award, we have usually I've

450
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Speaker 4: say we I'm talking about the media, we have usually

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Speaker 4: voted based off of who overachieved. I remember Doc Rivers

452
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Speaker 4: won Coach of the Year back when he was coaching

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Speaker 4: Orlando Magic. I want to say they were about a

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Speaker 4: five hundred team, you know, we usually give it to

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Speaker 4: a team that we didn't see coming, and they can

456
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Speaker 4: be the seventh seed, they can be the sixth seed,

457
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Speaker 4: even the eighth seed, but if they've been notoriously horrible

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Speaker 4: for a while, you know, that's how we decided.

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Speaker 3: I get that premise, but I.

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Speaker 4: Think it takes away from the coaches who really are

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Speaker 4: excelling on a year to year basis. And I don't

462
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Speaker 4: want to dismiss I don't like like we're most improved now,

463
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Speaker 4: Like the most Improved award is kind of.

464
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Speaker 3: It's changed on how people vote now.

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Speaker 4: Like I remember when Julius Randall got Most Improved Player.

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Speaker 4: He got it averaging somewhere around twenty five points a game,

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Speaker 4: twenty five or twenty six, and I looked at what

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Speaker 4: he was averaging the year before.

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Speaker 3: He averaged twenty two. I'm like, that's most improved.

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Speaker 4: Like you go from twenty two to twenty five, that's

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Speaker 4: most improved. I understand the Knicks, you know, they went

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs that year. That's not most improved. To me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I was still lean towards who had the biggest jump

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Speaker 4: from year to the next. That's how I still kind

476
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Speaker 4: of base it off of Like if you're averaging twenty

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Speaker 4: two and then you come back and average twenty six,

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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised, you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, cool,

479
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Speaker 4: like you got a little better, but that's not both improved.

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Speaker 3: Look, but the cut of numbers and other factors as well.

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Speaker 1: The fact that we're arguing like this, This is exactly

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Speaker 1: what the NBA loves. And before the n Season Tournament,

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Speaker 1: these debates about year underwards, that was like the number

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Speaker 1: one driver of in season, regular season interest. And that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we have an n season

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Speaker 1: tournament now, because the NBA is constantly looking for things

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Speaker 1: that will get people dialed into the regular season, and

488
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Speaker 1: you know, nothing really does it like the MVP race

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Speaker 1: that is number one in terms of getting people. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look how riled up Chris Haynes is with some of

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Speaker 1: my suggestions. And that's what the NBA loves. They love,

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Speaker 1: They love to hear us debating this stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you think about the Phil Jackson. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about the great coaches, the Phil Jackson, the Greg pop Is,

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Speaker 4: the pat Rileys. You know, how many to the Year

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Speaker 4: awards you think they've won. Probably not nearly as much

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Speaker 4: as they should have because we expect those teams to

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Speaker 4: be great. Well, okay, if you expect them to be

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Speaker 4: great and they live up to those standards, they should

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Speaker 4: be rewarded, not just a coach that catch catches off

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Speaker 4: by surprise or a team that catches you by surprise.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's it. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, look I cannot wait. You know I will again,

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Speaker 1: just because I'm not an official voter, I will still

505
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Speaker 1: make all my pretend selections public when the time comes

506
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Speaker 1: and you will have your ballot, your official ballot, and

507
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Speaker 1: it'll be fun for us to compare what our choices work.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going to be pretty different.

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Speaker 4: And this is the part of season where I don't

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Speaker 4: look forward to.

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Speaker 3: So for those who.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, and Primestein, you can tell me your experience

513
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: as well. But when you stop voting, when you stop,

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Speaker 4: when you stop casting a ballot, stein were the votes

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Speaker 4: made public?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: I want to say yes, But I genuinely don't remember

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Speaker 1: what like it. I don't remember how long is it

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Speaker 1: five years? Is it seven years? I don't remember exactly

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Speaker 1: when they've been made public. But I'm my last year

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Speaker 1: as a voter was twenty sixteen, seventeen, I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, I always made my votes public anyway,

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Speaker 1: so like I never really worried about it. Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: every year at ESPN, every single year, I printed all

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Speaker 1: my votes, so I always made them public. So I

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Speaker 1: haven't really paid attention to when that came in. But yes,

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Speaker 1: like you said, now, whether it's been the last three years,

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Speaker 1: five years, seven years, whatever it is, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I will ask someone at the league to tell me.

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Speaker 1: So the next time we do one of these, we

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Speaker 1: can we can put a specific timeframe on. It's definite,

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Speaker 1: less than ten years. But now, at the end of

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Speaker 1: every season, they print a list showing exactly who everyone

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Speaker 1: voted for.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they do so the chagrin of a lot of

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Speaker 4: my fellow brethren and sister and in this media fraternity here.

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Speaker 1: Why because you got people calling you, yelling at you

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Speaker 1: after the fact.

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Speaker 3: Well that happens.

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Speaker 4: But about two weeks before the season, I've already had

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Speaker 4: two stars call the text me making sure I'm voting

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Speaker 4: for them already. You know, they have they have bonuses,

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Speaker 4: they have triggers and all that stuff. And so that's

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Speaker 4: always a tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm so glad I'm not a voter.

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Speaker 1: I hate that stuff. And look the bonuses, you all

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Speaker 1: star bonuses, uh, you know, award bonuses. Those have always

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00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: been there and they you know, they're substantial. But it's

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Speaker 1: you know, the real problem, the major, major issue is

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Speaker 1: you know, the All NBA stuff, because that becomes a

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Speaker 1: deal where it's like millions and millions of dollars writing

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Speaker 1: on whether so and so is a third team All

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Speaker 1: NBA pick, And yeah, I just I want no part

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Speaker 1: of that anymore.

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Speaker 4: So that's the point I don't look forward to. But

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Speaker 4: aside from that, yeah, it'd be so it's been a

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Speaker 4: few years since I haven't, you know, cast a ballot.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, aside from that, yeah, that's what I don't

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Speaker 4: look forward to. But it being made public to cost

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Speaker 4: some riffs. You know, players they look, they see they

562
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Speaker 4: want to see who you vote. And that's why I

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Speaker 4: don't make any promises unless I know for sure. There's

564
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Speaker 4: been a time where MVP, who actually won MVP called

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Speaker 4: and asked me who I was voting for, and at

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Speaker 4: that time it was probably a week left in the season,

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Speaker 4: maybe a little bit longer than that. And I knew

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Speaker 4: I was voting for that person, so I was able

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Speaker 4: to tell that individual, you have my vote for that.

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Speaker 4: But right now I don't have like MVP, don't know

571
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Speaker 4: yet Coach of the Year, do not know yet most Improved.

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Speaker 4: I gotta look more into that sixth man. I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: right now. Off the top of my hand, I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: Malik Monk. I think that's where I'm leaning towards.

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Speaker 1: But I will What a brutal situation for Sacramento to lose.

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Speaker 1: They lose Kevin Hurder to a season ending shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: they lose Malik Monk for at least four to six

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Speaker 1: weeks with a knee injury, and Malik Monk is indeed

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Speaker 1: the leader in the six man race, and they lose

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Speaker 1: both games of their baseball series against Dallas. The Mavericks

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Speaker 1: have zoomed up to fifth after sweeping those two games

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Speaker 1: in Sacramento. The Kings now down in eighth in the West,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Phoenix with a big win on this

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Speaker 1: Monday night beating New Orleans lifts the Suns to seventh

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Speaker 1: and gives the Suns half game cushion over Sacramento in eighth.

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Speaker 1: Lakers have been very good lately, solidly in ninth and

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Speaker 1: then Golden State finally got a little bit of breathing

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Speaker 1: room with Houston finally losing a game, Mavericks going to

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Speaker 1: Houston and the Rockets eleven game winning streak, and Golden

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Speaker 1: State with a win in San Antonio on Sunday night.

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00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: The Warriors have now established a two game lead over

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Speaker 1: the Rockets, and the Warriors will now play Dallas twice

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Speaker 1: this week, play host to the Mavericks on Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: and then the Warriors are in Dallas. I will see

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Speaker 1: them on Friday on Thursday night, if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: You have the Kings and the Knicks, and man another team,

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Speaker 1: the Knuts, who are just going through it right now

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Speaker 1: injury why And honestly, that's the whole East. I think

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Speaker 1: Boston is pretty much the healthiest contender in the East

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Speaker 1: right now, on top of everything else that the Celtics

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Speaker 1: have working. When you look at all these other teams

602
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Speaker 1: that are chasing Boston, Milwaukee has obviously dealt with injuries

603
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Speaker 1: all season long, same with the Calves. The Knicks don't

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Speaker 1: know when they're getting og Annoby or Julius randallback. Orlando's

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00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: had good health, but the Pacers, beyond losing Benedict Maturin,

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Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton has not been at the same level as

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Speaker 1: he was in the first half of the season, trying

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Speaker 1: to recover from that terrible spill he took on the

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Speaker 1: floor earlier this season, He's still trying to find his

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Speaker 1: way back to his best. Miami nothing but injuries, And

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Speaker 1: really we should We did so much talk on who

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Speaker 1: the new MVP might be. We really need to talk

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Speaker 1: about the reigning MVP. Joe l Embiid is coming back

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Speaker 1: this week. Not gonna happen to day, but it looks

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Speaker 1: like by weeks and he will be back on the

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Speaker 1: floor after basically missing seven weeks for the Sixers with

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Speaker 1: his knee injury sustained in San Francisco in late January.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, man, as a Joel Embiid fan,

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I'm worried for him. I just I hope

620
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Speaker 1: for his sake that he's not coming back too soon.

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately he's gonna play because he wants to play,

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Speaker 1: And you know, he was having a historic first half

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Speaker 1: of the season, scoring better than only Wilt Chamberlain knows

624
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Speaker 1: this feeling in NBA history. Joel Embiid was scoring better

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Speaker 1: than a point a minute when he sustained his injury.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Sixers without him, it's it's brutal fourteen

627
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Speaker 1: and twenty seven, I believe without him. So they desperately

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Speaker 1: need him back. But man is does he have time

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Speaker 1: to get right before the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: You know there's all hold on the play in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, I mean that thing they're in

632
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Speaker 1: the play in and it just you know, Joe Ellenbiid

633
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: has been through so many injuries, like there is that

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Speaker 1: chatter and that question would he be better off? Should he?

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Speaker 1: Should he sit out the rest of the season to

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Speaker 1: try to get as right as he can for next season,

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Speaker 1: And clearly he doesn't want to do that. That's not

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Speaker 1: the road, that's not the path he wants to take.

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Speaker 4: I remember I talked with him before it was it

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Speaker 4: was a matter of fact, it was the day he

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Speaker 4: got injured. I was doing that game in Golden State

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Speaker 4: and he was. He told me that, you know, this season,

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Speaker 4: because we were the MVP. Chatter was the MVP dialogue?

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Speaker 4: Will he play enough games to win MVP? Exactly? And

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: at that point he was like man, my focus is

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Speaker 4: not on these games, he said. If I'm a missout

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Speaker 4: on MVP because of me having to sit certain nights,

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Speaker 4: he said, so, he said, because I didn't go into

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Speaker 4: the playoffs healthy last year and that hurt us. He said,

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Speaker 4: So that's my overwhelming goal. And then that same day,

651
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Speaker 4: that catastrophic injury took him out. I mean, that's like.

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Speaker 1: He's been you know, has he ever been able to

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Speaker 1: go into the postseason healthy? And the answer is no.

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Speaker 1: Every single year, something happens late in the season and

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Speaker 1: he's playing through some sort of injury in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And so that's just why, you know, you want to

657
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Speaker 1: see him have a postseason run or two or three

658
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Speaker 1: where he is not physically compromised. And it's going to

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Speaker 1: be really interesting to see what the state of Embiid's

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Speaker 1: game is when he does come back, how long it

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Speaker 1: takes him to get back up to full NBA speed.

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Speaker 1: And then, as you said, they're in the play in

663
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Speaker 1: right now, they are entering Tuesdays playing now after Monday

664
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Speaker 1: night's results, let me just make sure I've got this right.

665
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Speaker 1: So it's two and a half games back of the Pacers.

666
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Speaker 1: The Pacers have only six games left. Now the Sixers

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Speaker 1: have seven games left. Can Philly get to six and

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Speaker 1: they would have to leap frog Miami, which is also

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Speaker 1: trying to get to six. But as it stands, if

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Speaker 1: the standings as we speak turn out to be the

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Speaker 1: way the standings look after all the games on April fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: Miami would play Philly in a playing game, and then

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Speaker 1: the loser of that game would play the nine to

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Speaker 1: ten winner for the number eight seeds. So in the

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Speaker 1: current scenario, both Miami and Philly are looking at playing

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Speaker 1: either Boston or Milwaukee in round one, which is a

677
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Speaker 1: tough assignment on both sides of the coin. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the top seeds like that anymore than the Heat

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Speaker 1: or the seventy six ers do.

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Speaker 4: That's brutal, brutal, and but you know it's going to

681
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Speaker 4: be interested in. It'll make the play and even more appealing.

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Speaker 4: You got Philly with be in there with Joel Embiid,

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Speaker 4: hopefully you know he stays healthy and able to play

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Speaker 4: to his star level potential. Then in the Western Conference

685
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Speaker 4: you got Lakers and Golden State and then now Sacramento

686
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Speaker 4: and now Phoenix as of right now. So it's going

687
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Speaker 4: to be some good. It's going to be a great

688
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Speaker 4: what do they call those the appetized, it'd be great

689
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Speaker 4: appetizers before the playoffs kickoff.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you know Joel pretty well. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's pretend that Joel embiid rang you up and said,

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Speaker 1: hey man, I'm thinking about coming back, but I'm also

693
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Speaker 1: thinking about shutting it down for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: What would you tell him to do? What would be

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Speaker 1: your advice?

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Speaker 4: Well, if he's sticking those two things, then obviously the

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Speaker 4: injury is still a major concern. If he's still thinking

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Speaker 4: about shutting it down. So if that's the case, then

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Speaker 4: I will say I will probably if he's asking, I

700
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Speaker 4: would probably say, you know, go ahead and shut it

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Speaker 4: down because if you're not ready at this point, because

702
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Speaker 4: this is a scary time. Sn remember like he's he's

703
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Speaker 4: taking off so much time. People like people that play sports,

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Speaker 4: like you, you will understand. It's tyn you understand as well.

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Speaker 4: Is that like when.

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Speaker 1: When play he just basically said, I don't know, I

707
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Speaker 1: don't play sports. That was that that was kind of

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Speaker 1: a shot at me.

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Speaker 4: That's not that's not that's not what I said. That's

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Speaker 4: not what I said. I included you. I included you.

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Speaker 4: There was inclusion of a sign into the equation.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not in the league at catch straight. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's all.

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Speaker 4: Right, you're okay, You're okay, sign You're okay, You're in there.

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Speaker 4: But like these guys have been playing already, like they

716
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Speaker 4: they're already in a group, their bodies are conditioned for

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Speaker 4: this and then the playoffs or to play in n

718
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Speaker 4: CUA A tournament type style. Feel you take it up

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Speaker 4: even a notch above that. And so you're asking the

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Speaker 4: guy who's been out for months to just come into

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Speaker 4: playing in that type of a level, that type of intensity,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know that he can properly train himself

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Speaker 4: to get his body ready for that style of play.

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Speaker 4: And if the injury is still a concern that's still

725
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Speaker 4: in the back of your head, you're not ready, and

726
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Speaker 4: you'll risk even more time or even a more of

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Speaker 4: a devastating receptible and more of a devastating injury. So

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Speaker 4: that will probably be what I would would say if

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Speaker 4: he were to ask my opinion. He's not gonna ask me, though, No, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just a funny. It's just a fun hypothetical.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what it's. It's it's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 4: He's a big man. The history, the history of injuries

733
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Speaker 4: that that he's had as well, like that all has

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Speaker 4: the factory into your decision making process.

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Speaker 1: One thing, though, you just reminded me, I do gotta

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Speaker 1: get give you some props here, because this is funny

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Speaker 1: that this has actually happened. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: you've been paying attention to this. If you remember a

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Speaker 1: couple episodes back, we were going through the standings with Minnesota, Tim,

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Speaker 1: and I said, remember we did a draft. We each

741
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Speaker 1: each drafted what are the three storylines that were most interested?

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Speaker 1: And you came up with that nonsensical suggestion that you

743
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Speaker 1: were waiting to see whether Detroit could catch Washington. Well

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Speaker 1: you should be. You should be celebrating because Washington had

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Speaker 1: won three in a row and we did that. Pod

746
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Speaker 1: Since since then, the Wizards have lost to both the

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Speaker 1: Pistons and the Nets, and now the Pistons are only

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Speaker 1: a game back of Washington in that riveting battle for

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Speaker 1: spots thirteen and fourteen in the East that you apparently

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Speaker 1: can't get enough of. And now that the race is

751
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Speaker 1: on May, maybe maybe the Pistons can escape the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: Cellar, I told you, Stein, a little Birdie told me something. Steine.

753
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Speaker 4: I told you, man, the Wizards have lost three in

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Speaker 4: the row. Now, Stein, and you were questioning me.

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Speaker 3: He was like, why did you pick them?

756
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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 1: I think what I was really questioning was why you

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Speaker 1: found that so Ryan. What we did was we said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a draft. We're gonna pick what we

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Speaker 1: each see as the three most interesting storylines in the

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Speaker 1: standings from here to the finish line. And I drafted

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Speaker 1: a list of like seven things. So no matter what,

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Speaker 1: I let Chris go first, So no matter what he picked,

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Speaker 1: I would have an answer. And let's just say that

765
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Speaker 1: the battle at the bottom of the East between Washington

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Speaker 1: and Detroit was not on my board, so I did

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Speaker 1: not have to dig too deep into my lists come

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Speaker 1: up with three nominations.

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Speaker 4: At lastly, Stin, I want to let's bring producer Ryan

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Speaker 4: up the speed on last story time with Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 3: Because I would have shout out.

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Speaker 4: I would have tweeted, I got a tweet, I want

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Speaker 4: to shout this individual out. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 4: seen it, Stein, but okay, the tweet came from his

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Speaker 4: handle is mister ESPN, but it looked like it looked

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Speaker 4: like it looks like his name is Trip McNeeley. He

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Speaker 4: said at Chris by Hayes The Streets needs a marriage

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Speaker 4: podcast during the off season Man hashtag story time with

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Speaker 4: Chris hashtag Popeye's Now producer Ryan weigh in on this.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it real quick. Tell you what happened.

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Speaker 4: You tell me if if you agree or not or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Sty I mean, Producer Ryan. I was telling him Stein

783
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Speaker 4: about my wife when we were younger, in our late

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Speaker 4: teens early twenties, we would get in the arguments in

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Speaker 4: the car all the time, and she would be and

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Speaker 4: she would just get so mad, let me have the

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Speaker 4: car down, let me have and she would just get

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Speaker 4: out the car, no matter where we're at, just get

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Speaker 4: out the car and start walking. And so I had

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Speaker 4: the you know, you got two options, produce a Ryan.

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Speaker 4: You either going to pull up to the on the

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Speaker 4: side of her and try to convince her to get

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Speaker 4: back in the car. Baby, come on, let's work this out.

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Speaker 4: Get back in the car, or you're driving home and

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Speaker 4: let her walk. But produce a Ryan. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you drive home and let her walk. The relationship is over.

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Speaker 4: So that's what it is. So I told Sin not

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Speaker 4: too long ago, for the first time, I pulled what

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Speaker 4: my wife pulled back in the day. We're at pope'sm

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Speaker 4: and drive through. I forgot what the argument was about.

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Speaker 4: We're about three and a half miles away from home.

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Speaker 4: She says something that got on my nerves and I

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Speaker 4: was like, Man, get me out this car. I got

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Speaker 4: out the car, I started walking. So as I'm walking,

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Speaker 4: Producer Ryan, I'm like, Man, why did I do that?

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Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, I'm thinking back to when she used

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Speaker 4: to do that back in the day. She's going to

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Speaker 4: have to pass byby after she gets out that drive through,

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Speaker 4: Producer Ryan, you know, she just passed right by me,

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Speaker 4: didn't stop like I would have done back in the day.

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Speaker 3: So that's what that's. That's what I was like, it's

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Speaker 3: messed up as a double stand.

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Speaker 1: Wait, they're leaving out the best and most confounding part

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Speaker 1: of the whole story, which was which he was more

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Speaker 1: than three miles away from home and decided to walk

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Speaker 1: the three plus miles instead of just calling an uber

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Speaker 1: to bring him home.

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Speaker 4: I told, I told my reason for that producer Ryan.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if I was going to really be

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Speaker 4: about the smoke and get out the car, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: sat and call an uber.

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Speaker 3: I had to be about it.

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Speaker 4: I had to see the whole walk through.

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Speaker 3: And that was my way.

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Speaker 4: Like me like me pulling up in an uber and

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Speaker 4: she seeing that, it's like I'm a punk. Like I

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Speaker 4: got out, I act like I was about to smoke,

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Speaker 4: and I and called an uber. I'm like, I had

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Speaker 4: to see it through. I had to walk the whole way.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing it again. But it's a double standard, Ryan,

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Speaker 4: because if I if I'm if, I would have just

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Speaker 4: passed my wife up while she's walking, even though she

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Speaker 4: chose to get out the car and walk. If I

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Speaker 4: just passed by her and went home, the relationship is over.

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Speaker 4: But she can do that to me and just passed

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Speaker 4: by me and see. And when I got home, I said,

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Speaker 4: why are you to stop? She was like, I figure,

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Speaker 4: I figured you need time to cool off, so I'll

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Speaker 4: let you cool off. Right. So my question to you Ryan,

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Speaker 4: your wife, have you ever experienced that your wife getting

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Speaker 4: out the car.

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Speaker 6: No, I've never experienced that, but I am not surprised

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Speaker 6: in the least bit that this turned out exactly as

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Speaker 6: you explained it, that she would leave you out there

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Speaker 6: and just go, I'll see you at home.

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Speaker 3: After all that time, her doing that? She all Ryan.

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Speaker 4: So if your wife hypothetical, you haven't been through that,

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Speaker 4: and this is good. You have a great relationship. So

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Speaker 4: if she gets out that car and just I'm walking, kid,

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Speaker 4: I can't stand you right now, leave me alone, I'm walking,

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Speaker 4: she gets out the car, what are you doing from

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Speaker 4: that point on?

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Speaker 7: Following along until she gets back the car?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look at you, rightI what are you doing with SI?

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Of course I'm stopping. But I think we're missing I

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Speaker 1: think we're missing the larger hypothetical here, which is, are

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Speaker 1: you heeding this call that you want to turn this

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Speaker 1: into a that you want to you want to devote

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Speaker 1: some episodes to pure discussion. He said in the off

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Speaker 1: season marital and relationship topics, right the bran, What do

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Speaker 1: you think when you hear that?

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Speaker 7: Ryan, Look, especially in the off season, I'm all for it,

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Speaker 7: and I just have I have this one detail that's

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Speaker 7: stuck in my head now about what happened here, what

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Speaker 7: happened to what happened to the Popeyes? Did you get Popeyes?

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Speaker 4: Did she.

869
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Speaker 1: That was discussed in the last episode.

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Speaker 3: That was discussed.

871
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Speaker 4: Yes, that was wow. You did not didn't get me Popeye's.

872
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 7: That's tough.

873
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Speaker 1: Three and a half mile walk home and no.

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Speaker 4: Food stop, Stein producer Ryan. If the shoe was on

875
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Speaker 4: the other foot, it's a totally different story. But me,

876
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Speaker 4: I had to walk as the man, I'm getting passed

877
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Speaker 4: by on I'm not getting my food order after an

878
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Speaker 4: hour and a half walk. It doesn't It's not right,

879
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Speaker 4: it's not right.

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Speaker 3: So that was it.

881
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Speaker 4: We caught you up to speed and that's what and

882
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Speaker 4: that's what our good friend on Twitter slash x mister

883
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Speaker 4: Trick McNeely, the streets needs a marriage podcast during the

884
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Speaker 4: off season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. We're gonna really have to

886
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Speaker 1: sit down and have a long discussion.

887
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Speaker 3: Oh, my wife heard it. So I told my wife.

888
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, which I was worried about.

889
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: I was hold On, I got hold on. We gotta

890
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: add this just a moment.

891
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: Let me get hurt because she said she gotta tell

892
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Speaker 4: her truth now because she said I was leaving stuff out.

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Speaker 4: Hold On, take two minutes. The street sneeze is starting.

894
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: Hold On, it's not a Mercy come here. Hurry up,

895
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.

896
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: Your truth. You gotta add your truth.

897
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Speaker 4: You gotta add your truth. So sign and producer Ryan

898
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Speaker 4: beg for your your version of what happened from the papas.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear?

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Speaker 3: Yes? So this is the wife.

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Speaker 1: And now we welcome in Charlotte Haynes to give her

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Speaker 1: version of events to see if they really line up

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Speaker 1: with the story that we've been told by Chris B. Haynes.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you aware of the verse version that

905
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Speaker 1: we have been told?

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Speaker 8: I am. Yes.

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Speaker 5: Chris shared it and I told him I'm going to

908
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Speaker 5: have to go and listen to this on my own

909
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Speaker 5: to see if he's fabricated, and I said, I need

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Speaker 5: to fact check Chris as usual.

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Speaker 8: So yes, I have heard his version, though so accurate.

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Speaker 1: How accurate it was it? You know what?

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Speaker 5: Now you already noticed that he went from three miles

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Speaker 5: to three point five miles. So that was one that

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Speaker 5: was a lie, but just just the beginning of it.

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Speaker 5: It was I mean, if you some people know he

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Speaker 5: can throw temper tantrums, you know. So it was simply

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Speaker 5: I asked, hey, do you what do you want to eat?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I want to eat, So then

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Speaker 5: I said, okay, I'll choose. We were already in the area,

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Speaker 5: so I chose Popeye and then he just went off,

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Speaker 5: I'm getting out. He got out of the car, and

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Speaker 5: I'm the type of person where it's like, hey, if

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Speaker 5: you're upset, I'm gonna let you be upset. I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna chase you down so we can have a whole argument.

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Speaker 5: And also, you know, we have the kids and the

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Speaker 5: criss I was just like, let me go ahead and

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Speaker 5: let them walk. And of course I was like USTe,

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Speaker 5: and I said, hey, if he doesn't want to walk,

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Speaker 5: he can uber. So you know, so as we're driving

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Speaker 5: the kids and now we're driving back home and I

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Speaker 5: see him, but he gives me like a look like

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Speaker 5: he's still mad.

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Speaker 8: So I'm like, looks like he wants to stay.

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Speaker 5: Out there, and I was like, well, I guess we'll

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Speaker 5: see him at home. But I also was I noticed

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Speaker 5: he had on Air forces and if anyone knows about

939
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Speaker 5: air forces, they're like rigid shoes, they're not walking shoes.

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Speaker 8: And I was like, why would he want to walk?

941
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Speaker 8: Like I'm waiting for him to call and want me.

942
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Speaker 5: But he felt he had to, and so you know,

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Speaker 5: he was just he really created a problem for himself.

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Speaker 5: And I was just like, well, I guess i'll see

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Speaker 5: him when he gets home.

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Speaker 4: Ok. Those other times were back when we're younger.

947
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Speaker 3: You just jump out the car.

948
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Speaker 8: Lies and fabrication, Lies and fabrication.

949
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Speaker 5: Because number one, if I did get out of car,

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Speaker 5: he's not pulling on the side saying sweetie darling, honey.

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Speaker 8: It was all I was like, who is this guy?

952
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 8: Is this a guy from a movie? Like this is

953
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 8: he's on the side, get in here?

954
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: Are you crazy?

955
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 5: So yeah, lies the way I am bring back back

956
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 5: when X was Twitter and they do that fact check

957
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 5: and you know, false information.

958
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, community, maybe we need some community.

959
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: And then I wasn't like I wasn't like, oh sweetie

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00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: baby getting the car.

961
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Speaker 3: But I'm like, you're crazy to get get in the car.

962
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: That's not lying. You did jump out the car. Did

963
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: you jump on the car?

964
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Speaker 8: Jump out?

965
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 5: I just said I'm not getting in this car until

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Speaker 5: you are nice.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 4: And then you got in the car every single time.

969
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 8: No, sometimes I just went on my married way. Okay,

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 8: well this thing came along side.

971
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Speaker 4: She wanted to tell her version.

972
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can.

973
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: She wouldn't tell her version, So that's that's it.

974
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Speaker 3: It wasn't you know.

975
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Speaker 4: It's just a little discreptancease here and there.

976
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Speaker 1: Both producer right and I were just the touch surprise

977
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: that when he did make the three mile walk home

978
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Speaker 1: or three point five miles according to some sources, whichever,

979
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Speaker 1: whatever the distance was, we were just a little curious

980
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: why there was no Popeyes for him when he got home.

981
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: Oh you but remember, as I stated in the beginning,

982
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 5: he said he didn't know what he wanted, and he

983
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 5: decided as we were as I just after I made

984
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 5: a decision, then he decided he at least didn't want Popeyes,

985
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 5: so I said, okay. And and then another fact is

986
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 5: there was enough for him if he did want something,

987
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: because he does that sometimes too. He'll say I don't

988
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 5: want anything, then you don't bring him something. Then he's

989
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: mad that you didn't bring it for him. So then

990
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I tried to kill kill two

991
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 5: birds with one stone.

992
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 8: I thought I made the right decision.

993
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 5: I was kind of waiting because we also we stayed

994
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Speaker 5: in the area for a little while. That's the other

995
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: funny thing, because we thought he was kidding because it

996
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 5: was just so like what.

997
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 8: So we're like waiting. I'm like this because wiener Snissa

998
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 8: was next door and he usually likes that. So we're

999
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 8: like waiting. I'm like, where did he go?

1000
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: And so as I drove off, I thought he just

1001
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 5: called an uber and got in an Uber. And then

1002
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 5: as we were driving closer to the house, I'm like,

1003
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 5: did he really walk over here?

1004
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 8: And he's still looking upsats I said, Okay, all right, this.

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Is a key new information because if I'm understanding the

1006
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: story correctly, your choice of Popeyes factored into him leaving

1007
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: the car. So yes, yes, if that's true, Chris Haynes,

1008
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: why were you upset about not having food that you

1009
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: didn't want waiting for you when you got home?

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00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I didn't want pop Pas from the get go,

1011
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: but still, as the husband and provider of this family here,

1012
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: I would feel like to have the option of having

1013
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 4: some Popeyes here since that I am part of family.

1014
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean, was I kicked out the family that day?

1015
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 7: Stein?

1016
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: You don't know.

1017
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: We can't.

1018
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 7: We cannot allow this when the fight starts. Because you

1019
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 7: didn't want Popeyes, you can't expect your fair share of

1020
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 7: Popeyes waiting for you at the house.

1021
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: That's that's not as usual. Producer Ryan cuts right to

1022
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: the chase, just like just like in the famed Aaron

1023
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Haynes incident. Producer Ryan settled this quickly.

1024
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1025
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 5: You need you need to have the little gabbl and

1026
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: just just you know, put your put your decision down.

1027
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Hey, gentlemen, I asked you.

1028
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: While she was talking, she was scrolling on her phones

1029
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: going to GPS, trying to actually get the knowledge of

1030
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: how far it is. She thought she thought I was

1031
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 4: really fabricating the knowledge. I just did it. It is

1032
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: exactly three miles three point oh exactly, and I.

1033
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 5: Will I will verify that it is because we can't

1034
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 5: always trust what he says here.

1035
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: But I'm a journalist.

1036
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: You can't say that I just did.

1037
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 5: You guys need me to fact check, you need me

1038
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 5: to I said. I was listening to him, like, hold on,

1039
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 5: what did you say? I need to go and hear

1040
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 5: this for myself, because.

1041
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 8: No, he does this.

1042
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 5: But but Producer Ryan, I still had the Popeyes because yes,

1043
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 5: that's how he thinks. Even if he's throwing a tempertansion

1044
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 5: about not wanting something, if he don't bring it even

1045
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: though he didn't want it. He's going to throw another tempertension,

1046
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: which is why when I saw him, I said, let

1047
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 5: me go ahead and let.

1048
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 8: Him continue to walk home.

1049
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: Okay, just know, next time you picture fit and want

1050
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: to jump out the car, I'm letting you walk home.

1051
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe that.

1052
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Speaker 4: Thank you, wifey by. Sorry about that. Guys.

1053
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: All right, so I guess we'll hear what the people

1054
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: have to say if we still have if we are

1055
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: still qualified to be doing relationship discussions on this League

1056
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: uncut after this episode. I'm not sure, but the people

1057
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: will let us know.

1058
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: That was that was for you, mister McNally. Mister mcn.

1059
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 8: You you need it.

1060
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: And yet again you take this podcast in directions we

1061
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: could have never imagined. And on that note, we are

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00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: going to sign off with this edition of This League uncut.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein, Chris Haynes, special guest Charlotte Haynes, and producer

1064
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Ryan That's why he needed a two week vacation away

1065
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: from us because of episodsodes like this. All right, you

1066
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: guys know what to do. Please follow the show, rate

1067
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: the show, review the show. Come on, was this not

1068
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: a five star episode. Was this not five star podcast entertainment?

1069
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: Dare I say it was? Chris and I will be

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: back together very soon for another edition of This League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Last week, I wasn't able to see any NBA games,

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: but I've got Hawks and Warriors back to back coming

1073
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: into Dallas this week. Chris Haynes, as mentioned, he's got

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Speaker 1: a sideline game Nicks and Kings, so we will have

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Speaker 1: lots more to discuss the next time we do this. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: thanks a mil for listening, and that'll do it for us.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut is and iHeartRadio production.

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