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Speaker 3: Tip to Tim.

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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat, on this thirteenth of December twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. You're not watching Morning Combat. You're watching the

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Speaker 1: award winning Morning Combat. Hello everyone, on this Monday back

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Speaker 1: from Las Vegas off of UFC two sixty nine. We

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Speaker 1: a trophy that we picked up on Friday night. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. I'm merely one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo base here in the capital of Los of

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Speaker 1: Status Ninos in Washington, DC, joined by the the Prince

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Speaker 1: of Connecticut, the Viceroy of Naugatuck. Yes, he is my

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Speaker 1: friend and yours. We're both from CBS Sports, we're both

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Speaker 1: from Showtime. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, sir, Luke.

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Speaker 2: The sun shines on a dog's ass, even even once

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Speaker 2: a day, on a broken clock something like that. Luke, Wow,

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Speaker 2: what a time? What a time, bro, What a time

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Speaker 2: to be alive? Luke Wow. Gratitude, humility, joy, Though these

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Speaker 2: are a lot of the emotions that I'm feeling after

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Speaker 2: a while. We can not just us winning Best MMA

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Speaker 2: two sixty nine, Dude, it was hella special as we

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Speaker 1: So much to discuss. Even if we had lost UFC

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Speaker 1: Look, he's got such a different appeal to me than Habib.

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Speaker 2: and then, like I mentioned, fight Poorier's fight. That's what

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00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: Poorier wanted. Now, look, Poorio did want to be that

431
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: reckless Olivera succeeded in giving him reason to lure that

432
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: into a high paced brawl. But that's also the best

433
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: chance for Poorrier to win standing in close range landing

434
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: clean shots. He landed those, and Olivera either popped back

435
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: up after getting dropped or just walked through it. So

436
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: it takes us to around two Luke, where we saw

437
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: the nasty backbone of who this guy can be. I know,

438
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 2: we find out afterwards at Poorier was a little bit

439
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: content to sort of just give up the round and

440
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 2: not put himself in a bad spot submission wise. But

441
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: Luke not only did get mauled in a round that

442
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: could have been ten eight, and I think two of

443
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: the judges had it that way. But did you see

444
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: those those grimy tactics, you know, messing with the breathing pattern.

445
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff Habib did to really take

446
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: the life out of Poier in their fight in Abu Dabi.

447
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: Olivera learned from that, did a lot of that, and

448
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: when it came time for round three, he had a

449
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: broken man in front of him.

450
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: Luke he did, he certainly did. I just find it

451
00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: pretty incredible that he that he's got this well rounded

452
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: skill set at this point, that it's not it's not

453
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: without its limits, but its upside is just tremendous and

454
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: for him, Like, honestly, I went back and I rewatched

455
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: the fight this morning. By dude, by the third round,

456
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: he did it pretty easily.

457
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: You know.

458
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: The first round obviously was a tough one for him

459
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: because he got dropped. But I also have to say, dude,

460
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: like why is why is Olavera doing so much better?

461
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: You know, part of it is the skill set is

462
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: more well rounded, but I think it's actually everything is

463
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: feeding on itself. So because he's more well rounded, he's

464
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: more comfortable, right, Like he understands how to apply skills

465
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: in all these different scenarios in ways that he didn't

466
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: have before. He's in the right way class, so I

467
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: think he feels better. Right. He can physically bring his

468
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: his talents to barr. He's not the strongest guy, but

469
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: still he can be the most that he can be

470
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: at one fifty five as opposed to one to forty

471
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: five or some kind of terrible cut along the way,

472
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: And then that gives him the confidence to to like

473
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: really lean into his technique, and then everything just kind

474
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: of works feeding itself back like that, Like he really

475
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: has become so dynamic and a believer in himself. Not

476
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: that he can't be touched or hurt or dropped or affected,

477
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: but that he has this resiliency and these other gears

478
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: to go to that maybe just weren't there before. Everything

479
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: is kind of lifting every other part of his game.

480
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: A rising tide lifts all boats, and you're just seeing

481
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: evidence of that. He's a tough customer man, Like if

482
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: he fought whoever he fights next, whether it's Gaichee or

483
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Makachev or whoever it ends up being, like, you know,

484
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: he might get hurt in that fire, he might get dropped,

485
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: he might get really bloodied and banged up, and his

486
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: eye might get swollen, and that may have been caused previously.

487
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: For any fighter to be like, well that things are

488
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: looking bad. But for Charles olavera dude, this guy doesn't

489
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: have a rabbit in his hat. He has a full

490
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: array of magicians' tricks and he's got him late into

491
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: fights when he needs them too.

492
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: He's got balls. I mean, look, look the Coolemane and

493
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: main event together was certainly like a celebration of the

494
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: human spirit. But it was like you saw that in

495
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: the ala Vera fight where you're talking about the mental strength.

496
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: He has gotten to a point through this wind streak

497
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: like Juliana Pana was to pull that offll ge to

498
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: that shortly where he has maxed himself out. He has

499
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: found out to a way to raise his game in

500
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: every level and find out how great he can be.

501
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: That's scary, that's also super inspiring, and you know he's blown.

502
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: He's kicked in our doors. Anyone, you know, as a

503
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: cynic or a critic of him, if you were holding

504
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: on late and just saying I need to see one

505
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: more piece of proof, this was a lot of proof

506
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: spilled on top of you. That. I mean, Luke, I

507
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: don't I don't think there's a limit to how much

508
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: we can sit here and praise him, because he deserves it.

509
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: He has made himself into a dangerous player, and that

510
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: whole Habib debate that I that I mentioned last week

511
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: that some people you know, pooh pooh and other people said,

512
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: damn and the mythic mythic matchup, you know, matchup Monday.

513
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: In my head, God, could you imagine this version of

514
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Dough Bronx against Prime Habib. It'd be fun theater, Luke.

515
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: He really was super fun. Also, I have to say it,

516
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: like I thought he had a pretty good game plan,

517
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: like he got in trouble in the mid range in

518
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: the first round. But I love the way he was

519
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: clinching and going to the body constantly making Partier pummel

520
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: and wrestle and clinch with him and try to wrestle

521
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: in those you know, it's it's it's wrestling, but it's

522
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: standing up essentially all of those spots and then you know,

523
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: just doing phenomenal work. I really wonder to what extent

524
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: of you know, Partier, yes, having some success in the

525
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: first round, but then just having to punt and kind

526
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: of getting lit up a little bit in the second round,

527
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: to what extent that it contributed to him maybe getting

528
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: a little bit you know, swinging wide punches, you know,

529
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of not desperation but kind of want to get

530
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: one back that Olivera was able to get under it,

531
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: then get the back, and then once he got the back,

532
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: it was it was clinical. So so let's answer Let

533
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: me let me answer that, or ask the question and

534
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: then have you answer it. Are you after Saturday fully

535
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: willing to say that Olivera's reputation as a quitter needs

536
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: to be stricken from the record.

537
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, he has raised every aspect of his

538
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: game within this wind streak, going back and rewatching it

539
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: as I did heading into Friday show, it was humbling

540
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: to see that he's raised his game in every single level.

541
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: I think he has erased this, Luke, and I love

542
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: that you set this up by shouting out his IQ,

543
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: because if we're talking about what went wrong for Poorier

544
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: or or it has the battles caught up with him, No,

545
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it was any of that. I think

546
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: that you have to give Charles Oliverik credit for his IQ.

547
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: He like like the Luke finding that spot in The

548
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Death Star Luke in episode four to get Julie Nerdy,

549
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: he realized and knew Poorier's weak spot his self destruct button,

550
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: and he walked through hell to get to that button

551
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: and he hit it Luke, and and that's the you know,

552
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: that's the essence of somebody who is a true student

553
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: of this game on top of being a a daredevil

554
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: and figuring out how great he can be. So, yeah, Luke,

555
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: I think he has successfully turned away that old talk

556
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: in some ways. I think Sean O'Malley has also done,

557
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: which we can talk about.

558
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: The future, yeah we will. But what do you make

559
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: of the idea though that Like in the Chandler fight,

560
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: he did get dropped, in the Parier fight, he did

561
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: get dropped. He has shown there's just no denying it,

562
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: literal championship level resiliency. That is what he has shown

563
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: to get.

564
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Because he has a style that's so dangerous and he's

565
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: willing to take those risks. And that's why it's like,

566
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: how long can he sustain this? I don't know, Luke,

567
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: because he's gonna have to take punishment to win these fights.

568
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: But he's doing it in a in daredevil. But he's smart,

569
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, a smart way at the same time, so

570
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: it's like he's literally figured out the most efficient way

571
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: to try to win it. It just so happens that

572
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: that line of efficiency crosses as some very dangerous neighborhoods

573
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: look on the way home. There's no question.

574
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about what happens to their reputations next. But

575
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: what does this do to the reputation of Parier? Because

576
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: he was setting himself up here for a really nice

577
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: situation where he was going to get the belt, maybe

578
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: not fight much longer again, achieve all your goals, reached

579
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: some financial ones as well, and then call it a day.

580
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: But now he said, could I get back to another

581
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: title shot? I could scrape together a winning streak? Do

582
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I want to? We'll talk about his future, but for

583
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: the moment, what does this do to how he is viewed?

584
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: He still has the interim championship on his record, but

585
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: not the full one.

586
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: I think it hurts more in the initial after math

587
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: twenty four to forty eight hours than it will ever

588
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 2: you know, linger at all or cause anything. I think

589
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: it the greatest effect that it will have is making

590
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: him make the key choice that you just mentioned. I

591
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: loved how open he was about this after the press

592
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: conference on Saturday. By the way, I love anytime someone

593
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: at this level takes a loss and even one is humbling.

594
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: Is this And then, by the way, comes to.

595
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: The microphone afterwards and actually, bit, you'll always have to

596
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: give credit to those guys.

597
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we already know he's made of this

598
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: type of stuff. He's an action hero and he's like

599
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: salt of the earth in terms of what we want

600
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: a fighter to be so full you know, you know,

601
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: high five for that, but for him to openly be like,

602
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: you know, I have what it takes to do that again,

603
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: but do I want to? That tells me Luke that

604
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit more likely to play

605
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: big purse, big game hunting the rest of the way.

606
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he won't ever fight for a title again.

607
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes just being a super big celebrity with a with

608
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: a high level of critical value still you can luck

609
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: into that enough. But I think he's gonna want to

610
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: test some waters at the welterweight level, you know, the

611
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Colby Cove, and I think there are some big person's,

612
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: big fun fights to make. And I think he learned

613
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: that from the chance he took on himself this calendar

614
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: year by going the Connor Root twice and realizing that,

615
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, what does he do? What does this lost

616
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: do to the way we remember him. He's one of

617
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: those rare guys that if he doesn't ever touch the

618
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: full gold, which I think he's deserving of, even though

619
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: he's lost twice now in undisputed title matches, is that

620
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: he's one of the rare people who can backdoor that where. Okay,

621
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't win that title, he's still got

622
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: this hall of fame, resume, this hall of fame reputation.

623
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: He was an interim champion at one point. I don't

624
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: think it's gonna kill it in the long run, LU,

625
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: because he's done so many other things to make up

626
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: for not having that one giant championship.

627
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's an amazing win by Charles Lavera.

628
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: To beat or rather to claim the title, he had

629
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: to beat Bellator's best ever lightweight right and Michael Chandler

630
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: at a previous champion, and then to get this one,

631
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: he had to beat the previous interim champion and maybe

632
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: one of the best lightweights to ever do it, certainly

633
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: one that never held a full on weight class. It's

634
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing run.

635
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: Look, how good is this Chee fight gonna be? How

636
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: good is olivera Gechee gonna be good? God? We are

637
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: in an embarrassment of riches.

638
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's transition a little bit to the second topic,

639
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: which is still part of this, but because this is

640
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: this is actually a pretty big shakeup, right, We had

641
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: kind of expected Poarier to win, and there was gonna

642
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: be a series of fights who could have made from

643
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: their Parier versus Geechee or who knows if McGregor's gonna

644
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: come back and jump the queue. We still don't know that.

645
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: But let's talk about point number two. Now, let's talk

646
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: about the future of the lightweight division, because there's actually

647
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts here. We'll get to the

648
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: co main event next, but we really need to dig

649
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: into this for just a second. Okay, BC, let me

650
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: ask the question this way. Do you think McGregor comes

651
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: back and fights Olivera or maybe the winner of Olivera

652
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: versus gay Chee? Or does Parier losing make a fourth

653
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: fight between them more likely next?

654
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would seem that the poorer loss could have

655
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: a ripple down effect in pointing Connor down that same avenue.

656
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Like you said, maybe against each other, because it's just

657
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: such a big payday to cash in. If you're poorier,

658
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: you'd be dumb not to keep saying you know, this

659
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: rivalry is still real, It's still you know, it still matters.

660
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: But you know, Connor did try to cover his bases

661
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: by tweeting out, you know, when do I fight Charles

662
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Olivera and do I think Connor could talk himself into believing,

663
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: even how scary Olivera is, that he can find that

664
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: chin and stop him in the ways others couldn't. I

665
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: think he could. But yeah, Luke, I think this is

666
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: more likely that we actually see this fight, whether you

667
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: like it or not. There'd be better incarnations. We could

668
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: see Poorier against Nate Diaz could be something special potentially.

669
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that Connor's connected to this because Poorier

670
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: and Connor are two of the biggest brands in this

671
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: you know, just off the title line. Superstar doesn't need

672
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: the title. We'll make big pay per views, So it

673
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: feels inevitable even though I don't want it. I don't

674
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: think you want it, Luke, right.

675
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to say about it. Everyone's like, oh,

676
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: let's stop playing games. You know Connor's gonna get it.

677
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen it is. I can agree,

678
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: I can obviously agree that Connor is going to be

679
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: in almost every case a special case scenario, and that

680
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: the UFC is gonna have a lot of incentives to

681
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: put him in a title fight, especially if it ends

682
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: up being like with Geechee. I don't know how if

683
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: that's the best fight for Connor anymore, the old version

684
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: of Geichee maybe the new one. I don't know.

685
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he don't want that. Look, he'll be limping

686
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: around the cage if he wants, if he tries to.

687
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: So here's the part with Olivera, Like I think you

688
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: would you and I would agree Olivera is much more

689
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: well rounded than Connor, like by a long shot. However,

690
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Connor's ability to start strong historically, again, who knows what

691
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: version he's gonna be the next time he shows up,

692
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: But the one that was like a twenty fifteen w sixteen,

693
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, he was a fast starter, ready to go.

694
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: He's got big power, He's rangy at times, you know, dude,

695
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: that could be again if it goes long. You favor

696
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera by a lot, but I think you would

697
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: agree McGregor versus Olivera if he's even anything close to

698
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: what he was in twenty sixteen, A big if. But

699
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: if that's that thing in the first round, dude, that's

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: a that's a toss up fight right there. Connor can

701
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: win that one, and I think even his critics should

702
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: acknowledge that.

703
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, see in the first you're not incorrect in saying that.

704
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: But but the hour glasses running out on us being

705
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: able to justify that, because if he doesn't do it

706
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: in the first two and a half minutes of that fight, Luke,

707
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna lose badly.

708
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: You know.

709
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm if I'm, if I'm olivera, I

710
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: just double leg him off the opening start of that

711
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: fight and just get right to the point. But anyone

712
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: who's throwing up in their mouth while you guys wasting

713
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: this time talking about McGregor olivera god that could be

714
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: in play at any point for the UFC, let's wake

715
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: up to that. But yes, Luke, I think it's more

716
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: likely that we go. But what's next? Let me ask you,

717
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: because I think that the McGregor fight is inevitable, but

718
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it's it could be just as likely that

719
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Connor would come back against a Nate or Tony Ferguson.

720
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: So what what are the possible best next choices for

721
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: poorrier in your eyes, Do you go right for a

722
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: Covington type super fight, do you try to get in

723
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: the welterweight title rankings? What the hell do you do? Luke?

724
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: See, here's the thing. I think a Covington fight at

725
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: one seventy is a terrible matchup for Dustin. Maybe Dustin

726
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: could do well enough in that fight to like make

727
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you go okay. You know, he certainly can hold his

728
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: own in the right moments. But you know, at one seventy,

729
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: we know Colby is strong enough. At one seventy, we

730
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: know he's got cardio for days. At one seventy, and

731
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: even without one seventy, he's gonna be the better wrestler

732
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: of the two, and by a pretty considerable margin. You know,

733
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: that is a fight that maybe Portia could win, and

734
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: if he took that risk and got it, there would

735
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: be huge accolades for him. I think that's a bridge

736
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: too far. So if you go back to one fifty five,

737
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: what are some of the available names. We know Makachev

738
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: and Daryush they're taken up, so we look around. Here's

739
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: who's left. Gaichee is probably gonna fight Olivera next. Connor's

740
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: that wild card that we discussed. To me, what makes

741
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: the most sense for Parier assuming he wants to make

742
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: another run, and that's a big if I'm gonna say,

743
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: is Michael Chandler. I think Parier versus Chandler, two guys

744
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: who just lost to OLIVERA would be a hell of

745
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: a fight on its own right and would be a

746
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: good get back fight for either one of them. That

747
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: would be a massive fight. Luke huse fight right? And dude, like,

748
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: is that not an action fight? That's an action fight guaranteed.

749
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Or you could go Parier versus Ferguson another fight I

750
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: think would be a lot of fun that you can

751
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: would a lot of fun. Guy has got a little

752
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: bit left here.

753
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that would be a lot of fun, there's no doubt.

754
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: But I think that's a waste of whatever the damage

755
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: goods Tony has left. And it's not that Tony I

756
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: don't think still can't pull off a win on this level,

757
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: but I would hate that matchup for him. I'd rather

758
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: use Tony against Connor. So it's like the fight I

759
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: think what is actually most likely for Dustin is Nate.

760
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: I think it makes the most sense. I just think

761
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: Connor's come back at the same time, could get in

762
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: the way and cancel that out. But what if we

763
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: just gave Connor, Tony, gave Dustin Nate. Seems to make

764
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, right.

765
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: Luke Connor to Tony, Dustin to Nate. So who does

766
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler fight the loser of Makachev Daryush?

767
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine.

768
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: That could work, right, That could work because the winner

769
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: of that's gonna be your number one contender, Gatesie's gonna

770
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: get olver it. Yeah, that could work.

771
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the good news in this conversation is that

772
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Chandler versus anybody is great, So I'm not worried about that,

773
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: you know.

774
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: You know what's amazing about this conversation. To your point, Bantamweight,

775
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I think we both agree is the most ascendant division

776
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: in the sport. But dude, lightweight, you know, there's been

777
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: a ton of guys leaving, There's been a ton of

778
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: shake up Summer one seventies, Some are retired, And do

779
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: you still have five or six or seven permutations you

780
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: can make with just the top five guys that are

781
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: all bangers, that are all incredible, that are all good

782
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: and valuable in terms of learning experiences. And for their resume.

783
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Lightweight maybe is not exactly what it used to be,

784
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: but it's still fucking good as a division.

785
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: You're damn right. And we got some physiev which we

786
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: got a cut. I don't want to say costa in

787
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: a bad way, stand a good way, Luke. We got

788
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: we got called out, by the way. There were a

789
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: few receipts being handed out at the World MMA Awards. S.

790
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Brian got sent to hell by Anthony Smith

791
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: to his face, which was pretty fucking great.

792
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: And Danny and our guy Danny Rube Danmiy Rubinstein. There's

793
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: no question about that, Luke. He came looking for receipts

794
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: about that hairline joke. He's like, which one of.

795
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: You tell the folks? Tell the folks with Anthony Smith

796
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: said about you?

797
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: Said to you, dude, I'll say this, Anthony Smith is

798
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: a good guy person, and he definitely was like, you know,

799
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: I could be really mad at you if I wanted to.

800
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sorry, bro, you became a prop in

801
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: this dangerous comedy sketch that Luke and I are pulling off.

802
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: But that's what it was. He you know, he could

803
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: have been worse. Luke, he could have put me in

804
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: the rear naked, right, he could have.

805
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: Here's what he did, You're missing a part. He put

806
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: his arm around you like a little bit of a

807
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: big brother, and then kind of looked over at you.

808
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I could be really mad at you

809
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: right now. I was like, oh shit, Anthony, get his ass.

810
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: But then he laughed about it and then was uh.

811
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: And I explained to him like, yeah, I tried to

812
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: explain to Anthony, what really is happening is Anthony, he's

813
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: not actually insulting you. He's shitting on me through you,

814
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: by my attachment to you. So really it's all about

815
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: him insulting me.

816
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: I accidentally got into a war with Japan over that.

817
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: Luke doing the same bit. I gotta be careful, but

818
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: you know it's not gonna stop me. Luke and Anthony

819
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Smith good guy, great fighter, right Luke. They must see

820
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: as Luke said, musty TV.

821
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he is a great fighter and certainly mussy TV.

822
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: Any Anyway, somebody came up to us. Somebody came up

823
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: to us as a big fan of the show and

824
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: is a man in this game, high level, and they

825
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: were like, you guys better get Physiav's name, you know, correctly,

826
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: get it right, you know, Phyziev Physiev phyzi very good.

827
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Is not pronounced like the way we were doing it.

828
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. Uh, okay, all right, So

829
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: that's it for lightweight and one fifty five and your

830
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: incredible main event. Let's talk about this comain. How about

831
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: that point number three because this one is just you

832
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: know from the it's incredible. Okay, BC, how do you

833
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: explain what happened? Amanda NOONEZ loses to Juliana Pina gets

834
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: submitted in the second round. Some are calling it without

835
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: with good reason. I would actually argue one of the biggest,

836
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: if not the biggest upsets in MMA or UFC history.

837
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: What happened?

838
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: First of all, this is one of the greatest feel

839
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: good wins in the history of the sport. I mean,

840
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: you talk about hashtag humbled for any of us to

841
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: just witness this. But what happened, luke, uh, this was

842
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: a triumph of the human spirit. This was somebody who

843
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: had yet to be able to fully on lock the

844
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: greatness within them. Maybe she had been missing or hadn't

845
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: fully updated some of the intangibles that could have gotten

846
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: her to this title fight earlier in her career, but

847
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: when she got here, Luke, when it finally happened, we

848
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: found out that Juliana Panna had had next level in

849
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: other intangibles. And Luke, I mean, I gotta give you

850
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: so much credit for sniffing this out right when this happened.

851
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: My first thought, my first tweet, everybody's first thought. I

852
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: was like, this motherfucker, Luke Thomas. I mean, he's he

853
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: sniffed this out, he saw it coming. And then number two,

854
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, lent fout. She's undefeated right now,

855
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: So you know, I'll never just underestimate a BBL again, Luke.

856
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: But uh okay, real analysis time. What happened here. Juliana

857
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: Panna in a in the type of performance that I

858
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: think we all should take notice of and put a

859
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: mirror up in front of our own life, went up

860
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: against the biggest fear she could have in the sport,

861
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: the biggest obstacle, and refused under any set of circumstance

862
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: is to take a step backward or back down. Was

863
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: willing to do something, Luke that we often throw around easily,

864
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: but it's hard for even sometimes the highest level fighters

865
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 2: to do be willing to risk it all and lose

866
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: it all to try to win it. I mean, she

867
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: was standing in there against the biggest puncher in the

868
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: history of this sport, more or less on the women's side,

869
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: and took the shots and kept coming and kept carrying

870
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: out a game plan. I thought there was a quote

871
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: afterwards from Pina that summed it up and nailed it.

872
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: When they're asking her about her strategy for this fight,

873
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: she kept saying, look, I didn't have one. My style

874
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: is to react to the situation in front of me. Luke,

875
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that's a foundational good trait for fighters

876
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: to have. A lot of times as a fighter you

877
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: want to establish some level of control and dictate the

878
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: terms of this fight. But for this upset, for the

879
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: timing of these two ships coming together, that was the

880
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: perfect attitude for Pania to have, because no matter where

881
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: this fight went, she was adaptable. She welcomed the chaos,

882
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: and it could be easy to say she lured newness

883
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: into a war and then just outlasted her. But there

884
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: were some smart IQ veteran type stuff going on here,

885
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: including Luke during that sequence on the ground in the

886
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: first round where yeah, Payna got dropped. Yes, she tasted

887
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: some power, but she did something to Amanda's well gas tank. Yes,

888
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: but she did something to Amanda's fighting spirit by holding

889
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: onto her arm and provided, you know, throughout every change

890
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: in sequence. And I think that not only gassed Amanda

891
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: out in ways that she never fully recovered, but Pina

892
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: did something you know, spirit to spirit in that notion

893
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: that said like I'm coming for that, like you know,

894
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: if you're coming out, I'm coming for this. And sometimes Luke,

895
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: a high pace can provide a fatigue, a vulnerability in somebody,

896
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: but sometimes also you miss that you mix that with

897
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving no matter what. It wore down at

898
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: what used to make amanda newness great and it became

899
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: where that set the foundation. If she didn't have that

900
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: on the ground to wear down Amanda, she wouldn't have

901
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: built that foundation that built the foundation to do what

902
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: she did to actually win it, which is standing there,

903
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: take huge shots, keep countering, and not back down. Luke,

904
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: she didn't win that with skills, the same skills that

905
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: I questioned were they on Amanda's level. She won that

906
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: with will, with the human spirit. I mean, this was

907
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: as humbling to see somebody not only kick the door in,

908
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: but raise by multiple levels what we thought was possible

909
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: for them. If you're not watching this and they're not

910
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: humbled and looking at damn, I have I figured out

911
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: how to get the most out of myself. This is

912
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: why we watched this shit, Luke. This was incredible theater.

913
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: And you called it.

914
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: You saw that shit coming sort of.

915
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't take credit Ford because in the end,

916
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: when it was asked to formally pick I picked Annas

917
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: because I said to you on Friday like, I just

918
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: don't know what I could look at in the tape

919
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, this is the path. But this

920
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: is the thing I think folks need to wrap their

921
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: head around, like one of the lessons we talked about

922
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: it on Friday, a little bit, I reiterate it and

923
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: give it a little bit of a different twist, which

924
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: is people assume when you get to like a really

925
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: great place in mma, if you've been dominating your peers

926
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: and you have another challenger come up and you can't

927
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: really make out a reason why this would be any different,

928
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: you start to get to a place of what I

929
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: like to call comfortable inevitability. Right, It's just you can

930
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: just comfortably not even really think about a fight and

931
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: this person's gonna win. When you see that after someone's

932
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: been a champion for a while, like several years or something,

933
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: that to me is usually a bit you know, red flag.

934
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but pretty close to that one. That's

935
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: when people are not really paying attention the way that

936
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: they need to be. And here's what I have noticed

937
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: over the years in MMA. People think that elite champions,

938
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: if they stick around long enough, they lose. Everyone agrees there.

939
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: But what they think is going to happen is if

940
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: they stick around long enough, it will be a gradual, sequential,

941
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: staged decline. You can just sort of watch it happen

942
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: slowly over time. People have to chip a at all

943
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: that they have made for themselves. Sometimes that, of course,

944
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: is true. A lot of times it happens all at

945
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: once when you do not expect it, when there is

946
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: a comfortable inevitability about who these people are, when they

947
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: have been at this place for a long time. And

948
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: the reason why it happens all at once is because

949
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: the difference between a champion on an off night and

950
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: a challenger rising to the occasion is basically indistinguishable, or

951
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: it even favors the person rising to the occasion. Now

952
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: we have to see exactly what happens to Amanda Unez.

953
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: But dude, when the world is telling you you're the

954
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: best talent ever, now you have a family, now you

955
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: have money, you might feel like you're the same fighter

956
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: you always were. But life is now pulling at you

957
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: and giving you a whole different set of experiences and

958
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: incentives that are not the same scenario that got you

959
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: to that place. And if you don't inventory that as

960
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: it's happening, it is very very easy. Not that Amanda

961
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Unez is some like dramatic decline. Dude, it just take

962
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of an off night for there to

963
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: be dramatic consequences to it. I don't think people understand

964
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: how hard it is bc to be a UFC weight

965
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: class champion and then to hold that space over time.

966
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: It is difficult, and it is, to put it more succinctly,

967
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: it is precarious. And when you see people being like, oh,

968
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: it's inevitable they'll win, that's when you start to get

969
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: the spidy sense. That's when I got it.

970
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so well said, and it's why I always

971
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: have to remind myself what GSP did, what Anderson Silva did,

972
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: what John Jones did those long strat what Amanda just

973
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: did with a twelve flight winning streak man. That's hard

974
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: and the problem is like what made Amanda great beyond

975
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: being a savage finisher, becoming a completely well rounded fighter

976
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: and having a drive, and I mean, she has everything,

977
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: but it was like, if it got down to it, oh,

978
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: she would go there, She'd go to hell, and she'd

979
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: she'd take you out there. I think it's like she

980
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: was the last to know that maybe all that success

981
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: had left that tank a little bit unchecked upon, you know,

982
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: it's another way of saying it. And it's like she

983
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: was willing to go there, and she went there with

984
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: with Juliana, but she found out she no longer had

985
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: that same amount. Now it can be rebuilt without question. Luke,

986
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: So was this a bad night at the office for Amanda?

987
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: Not a complete not at all a representation of who

988
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: she actually is. Yeah, this was a bad aberrations. It

989
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: was the perfect storm for Juliana, and this was a

990
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: bad night for Amanda. But but sometimes I think Luke,

991
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: at that level, as you said, like you don't you

992
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: don't know, you don't have it there anymore until you

993
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: get there.

994
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I also want to make a point here, and I'm

995
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: not sure that this was fair when it was given

996
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: to Amanda, but I've been around long enough to tell

997
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: you that Amanda used to have a reputation something similar

998
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: to what Charles Olavera had, where hers was a little

999
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: bit different. Hers was She's a bit more of a

1000
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: front runner.

1001
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: Because of the cat.

1002
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, even before the cat's a gana fight, like

1003
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: for example, she won against Schevchenko, but she just fell

1004
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: off the map and the third round. Yeah, no, I understand,

1005
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: But I'm saying even in a win like that, that

1006
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: fed into reputationally some of the things she had suffered from.

1007
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: We had forgotten about that, in part because it was

1008
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: somewhat a little bit unfair, but also to your point,

1009
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: she had that in crazy wind streak from Baisler to

1010
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Anderson that went on for years and years and years,

1011
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: and so folks just went away from it. But I

1012
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: think what you saw a little bit was Again we'll

1013
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: find out over time if Amanda had an off night

1014
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. But it is also

1015
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: true that like yes, Payna took you know, her face

1016
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: got lumped up and she got dropped. But she stood

1017
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: in there with Amanda and she put that jab in

1018
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: her face. We should talk about that, the jab of

1019
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Juliana Panne. She had these high elbows and I thought

1020
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: she was gonna get lit up, but she didn't. She

1021
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: kind of just did. She pressured Amanda Nunez in a

1022
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: way that even Durand to me, didn't when they fought,

1023
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: and it clearly had an effect over time. You just

1024
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: can't take that away from her.

1025
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, she fell apart when she got exhausted Amanda.

1026
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: And look, I think it's because of that holding onto

1027
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: the arm. Look that was it was not like a

1028
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: textbook type scenario, but Paanya just held onto that limit.

1029
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: Was like an old school pro wrestled, worked the same

1030
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: body part over and over again. Look what impact did

1031
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: that have? I think that was what turned I mean

1032
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: half of it gassed Amanda out, but it like it

1033
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: just took something from her.

1034
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Aura dude, I mean, if you go back and examine

1035
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the finish itself, they the commentators called it that there

1036
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: was no hooks in at the time, But do yourself

1037
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: a favor. Just before that, just as Amanda is going

1038
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: to the ground, look at her face. There was a

1039
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: little bit of blood on it, not too much, but

1040
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: she had that thousand yard stare. And so by the

1041
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: time that she went on all fours I guess on

1042
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: her hands and knees, and then Payna started locking in

1043
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: the choke. Yes, of course she didn't need it because

1044
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: she was beaten even before she went to the mat.

1045
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: That was merely the ceremonial end of it all.

1046
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: So she made this What made this theater so extra

1047
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: crazy is it had that McGregor diaz one feel or

1048
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: that Lesnar Carwin feel where you could see the change

1049
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: coming and then it's just like can pain you finish

1050
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: it off? And like once again she built the foundation,

1051
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: but she still had it standing there and take those

1052
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: shots and her face was a mess, and that building

1053
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: of suspense leading to her You know that explosion moment

1054
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: of winning it. Luke God, what do you put that

1055
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: up again? That's like, you know, the finish of Tate

1056
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: versus Home. I mean, that's one of the greatest moments

1057
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: and just explosion and feeling and momentum building that I've

1058
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: ever seen in this fight game. I mean, that was crazy.

1059
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: Shout out to her on every category, But you already

1060
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: see the odds of a potential rematch. I've seen Amanda

1061
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: as like a minus three thirty favorite. Uh lot. You

1062
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: know it's telling you that's a lot, But I think

1063
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: it shows you, Luke, this is the very best that

1064
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: we ever imagined pain you could be. But to be fair,

1065
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: this was among the worst we've ever seen Amanda. So

1066
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: it creates the the interesting storyline if they go right

1067
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: into a rematch, which I think they should, Luke. But

1068
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: obviously Kayla Harrison plays a big part in this discussion.

1069
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: Well let's talk about that. So Kayla Harrison was who,

1070
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: of course is now a free agent. We saw her.

1071
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I talked to her for a little while the NIMA Awards,

1072
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: by the way, I was on Friday and night and

1073
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: I and I asked her like, when are you going

1074
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: to make an announcement about your next move? And she

1075
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: seemed to think before the end of the month. I

1076
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Now. I don't know what she's

1077
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna do, because dude, like, yes, there's no denying that

1078
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: even with this loss, you would agree Kayla versus Amanda still,

1079
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: especially by by the way, she's still the champion at

1080
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: one forty five, that fight would be at one forty five,

1081
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: so a belt would still be on the line, still

1082
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: be five rounds, the hold nine yards. That is still

1083
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: a bigger fight to me than Kayla versus Cyborg. But

1084
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: it ain't nearly as big as it used to be. Dude,

1085
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not known as losing to Juliana. Pana

1086
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: fucked up Kayla Harrison's and that's why she's screamed.

1087
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Well, we'll show a video and have you seen the

1088
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: shit of Kisa jumping the fence? But big part of

1089
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: that video is Kayla screaming like, oh, like you know,

1090
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: the money just fell apart right in front of her.

1091
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they featured on the broadcast and she's kissing

1092
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: her muscles like they didn't used to do stuff like that.

1093
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: There was an obvious courting going on. And yeah, there's

1094
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: this separate topic here. But I hope she still comes

1095
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Luke and challenges herself, and I hope that the promotion

1096
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: still tries to get her. But this changes everything. So Luke,

1097
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: I think what we're gonna see is a rematch, and

1098
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: I think it's the rightful call. And I love, by

1099
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: the way, shout out to Pana in every category, including

1100
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: the humility she showed after this fight that was like

1101
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: a model, as was Amanda taking the interview and being humble,

1102
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: but like Panya was a true champion in this moment

1103
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: in that regard and she said, yeah, you know, I

1104
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: give me some time off on maybe a mom and

1105
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: then I will be ready for this rematch. So, Luke,

1106
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: that's big money with the storyline, and it still could

1107
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: get us there, meaning you know, who knows if a

1108
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Mana comes back and wins this, we don't know. We

1109
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: got to see. But if she does come back and

1110
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: win in it's just a bad night of the office

1111
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: GSP versus Sarah, you could still get there for Kayla Harrison.

1112
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: And also Chris Cyborg put that weird tweet out with

1113
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: what it looked like Dana White calling her and it says,

1114
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, answer or no. So does that mean she

1115
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: wants to get back into this conversation.

1116
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: Luke back in the UFC.

1117
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: Did you see the tweet? It says something, Luke.

1118
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. Sweet.

1119
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's dude, she ain't going back

1120
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: to the UFC. I would be very surprised to see that.

1121
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: There is big money to make in these big fights though, Luke,

1122
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: are you agreed though that it has to be Nuna's

1123
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 2: next or do you see uh.

1124
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: You know for Payna?

1125
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1126
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then dude, what happens if you do that?

1127
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: And then Kayla is facing a situation where I mean,

1128
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: I guess she's gonna have to sign at some point.

1129
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is if Kayla never gets a

1130
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: chance to even fight Nunez and now Nunez loses twice,

1131
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: granted at bantamway, she would still be the featherweight champ,

1132
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: none of that would change, but the aura of what

1133
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: that would mean is, you know, at that point altogether gone.

1134
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but right, but she could you know,

1135
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: Amanda could also reclaim it. And that's usually how the

1136
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: UFC does it. They make you go run it back

1137
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: and and you know, take your swing to try to

1138
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: reclaim it, and you wonder if she could reclaim a

1139
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: ton of it by winning the rematch. I get what

1140
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: you're saying, but you know you got to make as much.

1141
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: Does this meaningfully change Kayla's calculations about a potential deal

1142
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: with Bellator?

1143
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: I think it opens the door back up. I don't

1144
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: know the situation I don't know how much he's talked

1145
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: to Scott Coker, but this seemed to open that door

1146
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: because it says that maybe my money fight with New

1147
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: Nests will never be maybe it needs more time to fix.

1148
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: But either way, I've got to fight the best now.

1149
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: So if I go over here, I could get a

1150
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: ton of critical and commercial appeal if I find a

1151
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: way to beat Cyborg. I mean, I could really look

1152
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: Cyborg to be fair, even though the New Nest fight

1153
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: was bigger, Cyborg fight is still very valuable for Kayla's rise.

1154
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: Yes, that is that is certainly true. I can't argue

1155
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: with that. It'll be interesting to see. But there's one

1156
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: more name I'd like to add to this conversation before

1157
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: we move along, and that's Valentina Chevchenko. Chevchenko had two

1158
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: cracks at a man and now the first one she

1159
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: was beating the brakes off of her. In the third,

1160
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: but the fight ended. It was a three round fight.

1161
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Now that we're champion. At the time, there was a

1162
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: subsequent rematch which was not very fun, very close. I

1163
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: thought Chefchenko edged it, but the judges disagreed. And so

1164
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about what about to

1165
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: Schifchenko and Nuna's third fight. Previously, Dana didn't have interest

1166
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: in it. Two thoughts for UBC. One, is there still

1167
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: an interest in Chifchenko versus Nunez at this point? I

1168
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: guess it will depend on if Nuna's wins. And then secondly,

1169
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of funny, dude. Chefchenko was very,

1170
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: very very careful in how she managed risk towards Amanda

1171
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Nunaz and especially in the second fight, and I'm not

1172
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: saying she should get out of that, but it does

1173
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: seem to me there's a case to be made if

1174
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: Amanda had an old reputation and then in this fight

1175
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: someone kind of got in her face a little bit

1176
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: and put it on her. It had dramatic results. Now

1177
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: she may take that away the second time. We'll have

1178
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: to see. But could you make an argument b see

1179
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: that Chevchenko maybe should have stepped on the gas a

1180
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: little bit more. Yeah, I thought that was they thought

1181
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: that would have yielded different results.

1182
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great analysis of it. And obviously,

1183
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: Chefchenko was of small bandam weight and still fought so

1184
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: well at the highest level, and Amanda's a very big

1185
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: bandom weight, so it's it's it's a hard thing to say,

1186
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: but I don't know, Luke. I'll also say, look the

1187
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: way that Amanda yielded in this fight, for all the

1188
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: ways that we framed it, I don't you know, this

1189
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: was a bad version of her meaning you know, she

1190
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: got to that, she got to the deep end and

1191
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh crap. You know, I might not have

1192
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: prepared to swim at this level anymore. She was prepared

1193
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: in those earlier fights. So it's easy to say in hindsight,

1194
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: man if Valentino had only pushed it, but Valentino also

1195
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: could have been walking into a you know, a ko

1196
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: in that situation. I do think this kind of kills

1197
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: a third fight. Obviously, if Amanda would win a rematch

1198
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: with Payania could bring it back up. But Dana said afterwards,

1199
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: Luke that he was he kind of admitted that he

1200
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: was never really going to make a third fight anyway.

1201
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: He could you hear that in the way he responded

1202
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: to that question. He was like, well, I never liked

1203
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: that fight to begin with, and I wasn't going to

1204
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: do it. And it was like, oh, okay, either way,

1205
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: that's not happening. I wonder though, Okay, Let's say we

1206
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know what painyas or what Nuna's future is her

1207
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: at thirty five, but let's say her future is not

1208
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: as a champion, Luke, does that open a door for

1209
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: chef Chenko to come back up and try to become

1210
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: a two division champion no matter who is the you know,

1211
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: and whether it's Payinier or whomever else.

1212
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: If it's not Nunez, because I guess Dana doesn't want it,

1213
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: then let's let's say let's say, uh, Paenia wins again,

1214
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: which should not also be surprising, although I think it

1215
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: would be more difficult for her the second time. Dude,

1216
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't Shiftchenko already beat Paynya liked, yeah, Shelly Holm, but

1217
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: she also beat a still prime Holly Holme, you know,

1218
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: in a great fight.

1219
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: So I'm saying performance.

1220
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: So like, dude, if you're like on the one hand,

1221
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: this has got to be a little bit frustrating you

1222
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: if you're Shifpchenko because that third fight again was a

1223
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: big question about whether it was gonna happen, but you know,

1224
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: Shifchenko wanted it, right, there's that. On the other hand,

1225
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: if it ends up being Painia, Like, do I think

1226
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: that Penya is this new transcendent champion. I think she

1227
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: was the better person on that night, no doubt about it.

1228
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: But dude, that's you know, Shifchenko is a motherfucker. Like,

1229
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a hard fight for her. If I'm Schifchenko,

1230
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: I would consider the only thing for Shifchenko is I

1231
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: do think she is trying to have a scenario where

1232
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: she can, like, if you're the vansomweight and the flyweight champion,

1233
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: you would have to defend It's easy to defend vansomweight

1234
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: and featherweight because featherweight barely exist. Flyweight and bansamway both exist,

1235
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: and that might be a little too much for her.

1236
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: So well, it is a way though, to potentially maximize

1237
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: her legacy options rights.

1238
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, that is true, no doubt. Yeah.

1239
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: So it's hard to say exactly, but all of these

1240
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: features and figures have been affected by this dramatic turn

1241
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: of events. And yeah, the one thing I'll say also

1242
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: about Juliana Painting before we move on from this PC

1243
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: is you know, when a person has a lot of inactivity,

1244
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: you always count that against them, and you have to

1245
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: on some level. You can never look at inactivity and

1246
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: be like this is always going to be superior to

1247
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: having activity usually is not, but it doesn't necessarily mean

1248
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: that a lack of activity is in every way negative.

1249
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: There could be a lot of things that are happening

1250
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: in terms of healing from long standing injuries, or just

1251
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: getting a mental break or you know whatever, you're leveling

1252
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: up in the gym, just not spending time out on

1253
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: the playing field, so to speak, and I think she

1254
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: had some of those with her. I think she had

1255
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: a stealed intensity about her. I do think she had

1256
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: somewhat of an improved striking, although I think that's not

1257
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily her best, you know, skill set. But in

1258
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: other words, I do think that there is a trade

1259
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: off between the time off, But it also should be

1260
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: noted that it's not a one hundred percent negative thing.

1261
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: She did value from parts of it, and that was

1262
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: a little bit hard to measure on Friday heading into

1263
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: Saturday's content.

1264
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. I also think, obviously she's

1265
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: got a lot of questions to answer in her first

1266
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: defense against anyone because of how story book this performance

1267
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: was and all that angst built up to try to

1268
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: show how great she can be, and it was a

1269
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: perfect storm. You know, can that storm continue? It's gonna

1270
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: be fun to find out this is what this division

1271
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: is needed and to close in this loop. Do you

1272
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: agree that this is the greatest upset in UFC history?

1273
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: It's up there with Holme Rousey, with Sarah versus GSP one.

1274
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: What do you say?

1275
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Speaker 1: So this is a tough one because it will depend

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: on how you want to look at it. I will

1277
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: tell you personally, and this doesn't mean it really is

1278
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: no answer to your question, But I'm just trying to

1279
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: out how I understand the situation. GSP losing to Sarah,

1280
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: and especially the way he did was at the time

1281
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: inconceivable to me. I it was just and also he

1282
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: tapped his strikes like which a lot of folks don't

1283
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: know in that one, and for me that feels way

1284
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: different than this one because I kind of had a sense,

1285
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, that this was certainly a lot more possible

1286
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: than the rest of the field. Maybe Rousi's because the

1287
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: one thing that Sean Chen pointed out over at Cegema

1288
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: May that I thought was fair was GSP was a

1289
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: budding star, but he wasn't like the goat yet for

1290
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: walter weight. When he got dropped and finished you know,

1291
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: tapped anyway, and Amanda was as established at two weight

1292
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: world champion, was as established as could be. That makes

1293
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: it bigger. The Rowsy one was the biggest spectacle I've

1294
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: ever seen. So I'll say this. I think if you

1295
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: have Amanda losing to Pena as the biggest upset, that's

1296
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: a fair claim. It doesn't feel as big to me,

1297
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: but I can recognize, man, this was fucking huge.

1298
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the right way to frame it is to say

1299
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: the Rowsy one Rawsi Rowsey was a bigger moment culturally

1300
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: cross over all that. But yes, this is the biggest

1301
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: upset in terms of what we're looking at because you know,

1302
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: Ronda had been so dominant. Yes, but there was still

1303
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: some of that era of like, let's see her against

1304
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: a specific style. And then also the whole upset had

1305
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: that hindsight feeling of oh, we should have saw that coming.

1306
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: This one didn't have that, Luke. This was somebody with

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: a performance that again I want to see if she

1308
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: could do it again, you know what I mean? This

1309
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: was this was the perfect storm. So I think given

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01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: that Amanda was the goat and had been a two

1311
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: division dominant champion, this without question to me, is the

1312
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: actual biggest upset in UFC history. Yes, I like, I

1313
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: don't even know if she can do it again. I

1314
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: still don't know afterwards, you know where the because to

1315
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: see someone that dominant implode in that way, it did

1316
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: have a Tyson Douglas type of air to some degree

1317
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: to it. Look it was it was you talking about inconceivable.

1318
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: It was insane. Mm hmm.

1319
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: All right, before we move on from two sixty nine,

1320
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all of these on extra credit.

1321
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: But I did want to give you a chance. Do

1322
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Sean O'Malley or Cody Garbrett

1323
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: very briefly.

1324
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: I think, so tell me what you think about this.

1325
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: It's not that Sean O'Malley has has, you know, thought

1326
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: the necessary ranked guys to redeem what was ever lost

1327
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: from that madelin vera loss, not only the fact they lost,

1328
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: but you know, some people not liking his reaction to

1329
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: the injury and what really caused it and how he's

1330
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 2: framed it post. I feel like the dominance that he's

1331
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: showing again against a certain level of competition, but but

1332
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: just looking like a million bucks, it's kind of put

1333
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: that to bed. Luke maybe maybe you're gonna find the

1334
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: cynics who are still like, man, I need to see

1335
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: that backbone tested and rightfully so I want to see

1336
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: it too. But I mean his management of his brand

1337
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: and star value and the way he works a crowd.

1338
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean this like I think the magic is backlit,

1339
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. I don't know how great he is.

1340
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: I need to find that out, but I feel like

1341
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna enter into this second run at finding it out.

1342
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: He's in the right place, is what I'm saying.

1343
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: You know what's amazing about Sean O'Malley, And I'll save

1344
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: the anown of his fight for extra credit. We'll lean

1345
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: heavily into that duo because I watched it again last

1346
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: night and I was even more impressed the second time.

1347
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: I picked up on a couple of things I didn't

1348
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: see in real time. Dude, he's fucking good. But I'll

1349
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: say this, you know what's amazing about Sean O'Malley is,

1350
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: if you think about it, Scott Koker when he ran

1351
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: Strike Force, had a certain way of matchmaking. Now, if

1352
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: you were a champion, they did give you tough fights,

1353
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: but if you were somebody who was good, they also

1354
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: gave you tough fights, but they also gave you fights

1355
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: in between to make you look good. They had a

1356
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: certain way of giving you a guy who was a

1357
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: credible threat. But if you could style on them in

1358
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: the way that you would expect one of their A

1359
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: list fighters to do, then it was this sort of

1360
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: that predictable scenario because mma is very difficult to predict,

1361
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: and you know and engineer outcomes, but you get the idea,

1362
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: your chances of it are much higher, and more often

1363
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: than not, that system worked Sean O'Malley by refusing to

1364
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: buy into the way in which the UFC wants him

1365
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: to fight and by declining around that. So, in other words,

1366
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: having a different sensibility about matchmaking, he has strike forced

1367
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: himself to the point where he is now reliably in

1368
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: a action fights b that he can win. He delivers

1369
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: memorable performances and stoppages that the fans love, and he

1370
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: hasn't really been tested against the elite that division in

1371
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: a full, throwded way that you'd have verified. Notwithstanding, it's like, dude,

1372
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: this guy is just making himself out to be the

1373
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: strikeforce fighter in UFC. If Strikeforce was around, this is

1374
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: how they would match Sean O'Malley up until he got

1375
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: good enough to you know where he couldn't look back.

1376
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: But for this moment in time, this is exactly what

1377
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: they would do, and it's fucking working. I don't know

1378
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: if it's gonna bring him the dollars he wants for

1379
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: the contract negotiations, but in how he is setting himself

1380
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: up and apart, it is absolutely working.

1381
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: And we don't normally support this level of matchmaking, and

1382
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't think we should, but in this case, it

1383
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: not only worked marketing brandwise to resuscitate whatever was lost,

1384
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: like I said, but Luke, he looks like the swagger's there,

1385
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: like that loss never happened, and that's where you would

1386
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: want him when he's finally ready now and can we

1387
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: not wait any longer? Let's put him in there against

1388
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: a competent top ten guy. Who would you pick? Luke?

1389
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: What's the fight to match? Right now? Man?

1390
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to go wrong at bantamweight. I mean, there's

1391
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: just a lot of different ways you can go. For

1392
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: the nature of the question.

1393
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: Ooh, you know, tell me if you hate it? Do

1394
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: you hate Favor? You hate it?

1395
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Favor is not even ranked. I don't know what

1396
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: that was, Okay, I just.

1397
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Wanted to know. I was trying to get creative. But

1398
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: if you hate it, Let's.

1399
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: Say you Untill is sitting at eleven. I'll tell you

1400
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: which one I would want to see. Frankie Edgar is

1401
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: sitting at thirteen. No, I think you should hold on,

1402
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I think he should retire.

1403
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: But if he's going to stick around be part of the.

1404
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: Action, it's a really bad idea, Luke. I mean, look,

1405
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's too different from you, Edgar. I

1406
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: know I just put out a favor option, so I

1407
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: know you're already looking down on me, and you should.

1408
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: But no, Luke, I don't want to see this happen

1409
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: to Frankie. Come on, I know what it would give him.

1410
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's go actual. Forget old guys. What we

1411
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: want to see a top ten guy in his prime is.

1412
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: Sitting at thirteen. I'm not making this up. He is

1413
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: literally on the ranking.

1414
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: It's going to be gross. I don't want to see that,

1415
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 2: all right.

1416
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: Come on, right, Well, here's the other choices in the

1417
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: top eleven to fifteen. Marlon Vera, who he already fought,

1418
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: is sitting at eleven, a Sunsaw at twelve. You could

1419
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: do those if you wanted Edgar at thirteen, song you

1420
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Dong at fourteen, and then Cody's staymen at fifteen. But

1421
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: if I'm Sean O'Malley, why am I fighting a very

1422
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: tough you dong or stayman at fourteen and fifteen? When

1423
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: I could fight Edgar much more winnable, I would actually

1424
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: argue and bigger name and they're head in the rankings,

1425
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: like you know, it's fairly you know, I don't know

1426
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: what to tell you, but like you could do any

1427
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: of those, I think okay. And then lastly on Cody Garbrandt,

1428
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts on that after watching the fight.

1429
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you wanted to share before we

1430
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: move on.

1431
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: He's he's become a mir Khan in a boxing term.

1432
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's in a tough space.

1433
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: He can get, you know, and I mean American's more

1434
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: of a joke now. But when American had that rush,

1435
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: that run, excuse me, where we all knew he was damaged,

1436
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: but he could still get in great shape and command

1437
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: a big name opponent and look great for four rounds

1438
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: and show you though, my god, if only he had

1439
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: that thing. He doesn't have that thing, and Cody has

1440
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: lost that thing. And and maybe it's the chin. I

1441
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: don't know exactly. I mean probably the chin, but but

1442
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: whatever it is, there's a there's a you know, there's

1443
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: a gaping hole there. There's there's a major malfunction and

1444
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: it's a shame, Luke, because he can get you pretty

1445
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: excited around that and get in great shape. And I thought,

1446
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, he cut down to that weight and I

1447
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: was like, oh, maybe maybe I could become a believer here.

1448
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: And then it's self destructed again. And I don't know

1449
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: what the UFC or him should do. I mean, he's

1450
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: he's he's young enough where another one more attempt at

1451
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: some kind of resurrection is probably the path of least resistance,

1452
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: to be fair. But there's there's an issue there, Luca.

1453
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that it's a mere Connell over again. It's you

1454
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: know that that that wounded bird that's so beautiful, but

1455
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: it's not gonna arrive safely, Luke.

1456
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: Mm. We'll talk more about this on extra credit. We'll

1457
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: have a breakdown of the O'Malley fight, Garbrandt and everything else.

1458
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: Dominic Cruz looking great. It will be a big episode

1459
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: that'll out later today, so being on the lookout for that,

1460
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: all right, BC, we cannot forget about it because it's

1461
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: part and parcel of what Morning Combat does. Let's talk

1462
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: a little bit about boxing Vasilli. Lomachenko defeats Richard Komi

1463
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: and what can only be described as almost embarrassing fashion

1464
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: to the point where he is begging during the fight,

1465
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: Lomachenko to Komy's corner to stop this on his behalf

1466
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: because it's only going to get worse. BC. Since losing

1467
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: to Lopez, we have seen Lomachenko rebound against Nakatani and

1468
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: then absolutely style on Richard Komi. Is he has he

1469
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: fully reasserted himself as a driving force at one hundred

1470
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds.

1471
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Luke, remember that version of him

1472
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, No Maschenko. Maybe ESPN announcers

1473
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: had made us go grow to hate it because they

1474
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: put it in our face so much. But he was

1475
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: called that because he can be so sublime that he

1476
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: can make you literally quit on the inside. Like when

1477
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: he fought Nicholas Walter was like, oh my god, I

1478
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: want to see him against the slugger. Walter's got to taste. Luki,

1479
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: He's like, nah, I'm good, guys. You know I'm not

1480
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not you know, savior, I mean Riggingdald did

1481
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: the same thing. But it's like, you know, I'm not

1482
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: gonna give you that satisfaction of watching this guy just

1483
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: break me. That guy's back Luke at thirty three, and

1484
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: I think, sometimes we just get stuff wrong. Obviously we're

1485
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 2: not perfect. We can't see the future. I look back

1486
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: and I go, man, I should have believed that Charles

1487
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: Oliver could be this great. I should have believed that

1488
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: Limachako might still be the best lightweight in the world,

1489
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I had downgraded that

1490
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: belief from seeing what was a perfect night for Teo

1491
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: Femo Lopez, a riot, you know, an alien that rose

1492
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 2: to the highest level of what he could be and

1493
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: is now humbled back down a bit. We'll see what

1494
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: happens for Lopez moving forward. But on that night, Luke,

1495
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: someone had had greater magic than him, and I took

1496
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: away a little bit too much of what he still had,

1497
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: even though I still have him in my top ten

1498
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: pounds per pound, but he reminded us he resuscitated any

1499
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: remaining questions, and I love that. I love the way

1500
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: he reacted to the loss against Tayo No Luke. I mean,

1501
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: there were some moves that were highly suss okay, as

1502
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: the kids would say, but his mindset is back to

1503
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,919
Speaker 2: where it needs to be. Did you see those video packages?

1504
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: All he cares about are the belts, Luke. Some guys

1505
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: are lusting for the fame and the money or whatever.

1506
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: They want easy fights to look good. This guy just

1507
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: wants the royal side of this game. He wants the belts.

1508
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: He wants Camboso's for all four. He would fight Stevenson

1509
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: for all four, won thirty belts, but he just wants

1510
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: the fights that give him the most prestige in that

1511
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: lay and you have to respect that. And I thought

1512
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: it was very interesting his little prefight video where he

1513
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: was given his take on every other lightweight and division,

1514
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: and some of it's trash talk heavy, some of it's

1515
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: just confidence. Look, he pissed all over Dravonte. He believes

1516
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: Dravonte is like an actual clown, which shocks me that

1517
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: he's that critical openly against the guy who's so good.

1518
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: But that's an interesting take right there.

1519
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is obviously we have a higher opinion of Driva.

1520
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you them that. But here's the thing for me,

1521
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: For folks who didn't see this fight, two things really

1522
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: stood out to me, well actually one one and a half.

1523
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: The basic thing is this, I never thought he lost

1524
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: his skills after Lopez. You would still imagine them being around.

1525
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: But you know, in that twelfth round there was a

1526
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: moment where the fight was kind of hanging there when

1527
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: he fought Lopez, and it was Lopez who dug deeper,

1528
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: like far deeper of the two and really like showed

1529
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: his competitive fire to win that, which is why to me,

1530
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: I don't really have any problem with that scoring in

1531
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: that fight in the way that Limonchenko still does. Dude,

1532
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: here's what I saw in this fight and not Katani one.

1533
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 1: It was a lot of skill in razzle dazzle. This

1534
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: one was skill and razzle dazzle and a little bit

1535
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: of meanness, a little bit of like fuck you and

1536
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: he and him and Richard Komy they had they were

1537
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: gentlemen before they exchanged the nicest of congratulatory gradulations to

1538
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: each other in their own ways, obviously since Komi lost,

1539
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: but they were tons of respect shown post fight. But

1540
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: in the fight itself, dude. He was not angry, fired up.

1541
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: It was what was totally missing I'm having.

1542
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 2: Probably it's the perfect pivot right now. This this guy's

1543
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: a genius, right, he's thirty three, and he has a

1544
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: style Luke, that on its surface is so reliant upon

1545
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: athleticism and footwork and and speed and quick reaction that

1546
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: naturally we're like, oh man, when that thing starts to age,

1547
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: people are gonna catch up with him. He's gonna have

1548
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: to be in wars. He's getting ahead of that, Luke,

1549
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, a nineteen ninety three Michael

1550
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: Jordan started adding that high post game with that fadeaway jumper.

1551
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: He was getting ahead of what was coming in terms of,

1552
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: you know, just age catching up with you. Luke, did

1553
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: you see his commitment to not just being nasty what

1554
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: you're right and pushing calm he constantly but owning the

1555
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: clinch game, Luke, he worked in a level of offense

1556
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: in close. He's still trying to get around your shoulder

1557
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: and make you miss, but now he's digging in and

1558
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: really going to town with the uppercuts and willing to

1559
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: be physically a force in there. He's not he's basically saying,

1560
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna slow down, but I'm not gonna

1561
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: get man handled in there. He's in great shape, obviously,

1562
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: Luke seems a little bit bigger than before. But his

1563
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: commitment now to trying to offset that and saying, Okay,

1564
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: I'll fight you on short term a short distance, but

1565
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it completely on my term. Still, that's

1566
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: something to watch, Luke. His fight's moving forward. Win or

1567
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: lose are gonna be They're gonna be really fun. And

1568
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: if people don't know how good Richard Komi is and

1569
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: for him to be able to make him look that

1570
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: they can get to the point where we're questioning if

1571
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Lima is just carrying him. He's still there, Luke, It's

1572
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: still there in a big way.

1573
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: It's there in a huge way.

1574
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: I was.

1575
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: I was so impressed with the as I as I

1576
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: indicated the competitive fire in this and as you indicated

1577
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: you can see it from the point you raised not

1578
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: just in the ring, of course, but then outside the

1579
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: ring with the video packages and like Polimlanaji, you had

1580
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: a great tweet. It's like, dude, this guy in uh

1581
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: if Vasili Limachenko in terms of you know, the kind

1582
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: of effort he's putting in the kind of fights he's taking.

1583
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: He's out there doing it all at the best he

1584
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: can anyway at lightweighting doesn't even have any belts. He's

1585
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: out there just taking these kinds of risk and putting

1586
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: on these fights without even the belts being a sort

1587
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: of on the line here. Imagine what he would do

1588
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: if he actually had that in his in his place,

1589
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: and I will see if they can make those fights happen.

1590
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: By the way, you also mentioned the clinch game. How

1591
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: about that left hook that dropped Comy. He had an

1592
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: underhook and as soon as he began pulling it out

1593
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: and Comy would retreat it, he timed it perfectly and

1594
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: then circled a left hook over the top sat him

1595
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: down right along the fence line.

1596
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: Dude, you'll be seeing that shortly. And have you seen

1597
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: this shit? Luke? Thisazingfore so hearing his comments on the

1598
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: other fighters, like I said, was interesting because he doesn't

1599
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: pull any punches, and he gave Ryan Garcia, by the way,

1600
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: a ton of respect for getting off the canvas against

1601
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: Luke Campbell and showing him that hunger. But his mean

1602
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 2: he's going next level piss job on Gravante. So that

1603
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 2: makes me think it's it's sort of a long play

1604
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: of like trying to lure them to get, you know,

1605
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: to accept this fight. Luke, there were times when thought

1606
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: Tayo was bigger and better and he would have been

1607
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: a part of this conversation, But right now, Tayo Fema

1608
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: was taking a backstep. The best fight you can make

1609
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 2: in this division it's Tank versus Loma. It really is.

1610
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably the hardest fight to make in

1611
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: this division, but dude, that's the best fight you can

1612
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: make right now. Even though I think hany Is is

1613
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: really finding out where he's going, the best fight you

1614
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: can make is could you imagine? Could you imagine the

1615
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: theater of Dravonte against against Lomachenko. Are you kidding me?

1616
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: That's a huge fight. That's a huge, huge, huge fight.

1617
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought of it, really, I mean, honestly,

1618
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: we've sort of contemplated it, But now that you're selling

1619
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,480
Speaker 1: it to me, it sounds so appetizing because.

1620
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: Even if, even if, even if Loma's right, meaning that

1621
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: we think the skill between the two is fairly close.

1622
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: Although I think, look, Lomachenko was a wizard, he's got

1623
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: a deeper level of skill and ring generalship and all that.

1624
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: But we think for Jervonte kin Box, even if he

1625
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: gets completely owned in the in the in that level

1626
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: of it, he's got that power Luke and that in

1627
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: multiple ways to deliver it that he's going to discipline

1628
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: Loma with the threat of that. There's no question about it.

1629
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: So to see what would happen next is it would

1630
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: be wild.

1631
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: Do you think lastly on this and then we'll talk

1632
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: about Nono don't air. Do you think that after this performance,

1633
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: how likely is it that they actually make the Shaquer

1634
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: Stevenson fight in twenty twenty two? And I think, uh

1635
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: to me, to me, it seemed like it actually became

1636
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: less likely.

1637
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'll say less likely because he really said

1638
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 2: the only way is if the only way he'd go

1639
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: back down to one thirty is if if Sha Kak

1640
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: can bring all the belts there. I think Loma wants

1641
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: he's he's focused on lightweight man. He wants to be

1642
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: the undisputed champion. And again, so not likely, But you know,

1643
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: the future's fun. Future is gonna be gonna be a

1644
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: lot of fun. It's gonna be good.

1645
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: And last, but certainly not least, we moved to point

1646
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: number five now here wasn't necessarily the biggest fight over

1647
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: the weekend. But you want to talk about feel good

1648
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: events in combat sports. We saw him at UFC. You

1649
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: should have seen him on show time on Saturday night

1650
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: as well. How about Nonito Donair, thirty nine years of age,

1651
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: going back down in wait and giving raymart Gabayo goodbye Gabalio.

1652
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce its directly gobay See they were going

1653
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: to say they were saying Gabalio on the broadcast, they

1654
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: were actually saying the L and the Y. So I

1655
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: don't know. In any case, with a fourth round stoppage,

1656
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: vicious body punching BC, what can you say about Donair

1657
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: at this late stage in his career? And then I

1658
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: want to talk about whether the in a way rematch

1659
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: should be next. But yeah, guys, please review this, please.

1660
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: This is something special. This is really something special. It's

1661
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: not going to get the headlines of even you know, look,

1662
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: don't you know Donare has always been under the shadow

1663
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: of many Pakiao as Philippine you know, icons and fighters

1664
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: that have accomplished so much rightfully, so right Manny Pacio

1665
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,879
Speaker 2: is a force commercially in mar But what what Pakiao

1666
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: has done in recent years thaying so relevant late in age,

1667
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, this is right on par with that one

1668
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: Denara is doing. I mean, to be able to move

1669
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: down two weight divisions even further to a weight class

1670
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: at one eighteen where where speed is such a dominant

1671
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: factor and still be this much of a threat as

1672
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: a puncher and already prove you can go in there

1673
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: against the you know, a guy who's number two or

1674
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 2: three pound for pound in a new way who probably

1675
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: in all I mean should a new way should have

1676
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: destroyed him. Luke, we were like nervous for Donair's health

1677
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: by accepting that fight, and he went in there and

1678
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: was like the bigger man and key moments. That's one thing, Okay,

1679
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: that's the last of what he's got left in the jar, right, No,

1680
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: he's taken on all comers. Gabayo is twenty four and

1681
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: oh with twenty two KOs coming in. I mean, he's

1682
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: fighting these hungry, tough guys in this division real quickly.

1683
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: You can see. I just want to point out, for

1684
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: the audience's sake, they showed the highlights here. Look, he

1685
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: actually waits till the eight count and then stands and

1686
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: realizes he can't stand, and then goes back to the knee.

1687
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: Even though they were at the end of the round.

1688
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: All he had to do was hold on for a

1689
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: few more seconds. Look wid watch him, and he just, ah,

1690
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: he can't do it. He has to go right back down. Dude,

1691
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: Donaire must have stuck him with a heavy punch.

1692
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in insane shape. He's really in a

1693
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: great place, you know, mentally, spiritually in terms of what

1694
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: he feels like his role is in the game right

1695
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: now and all of that, and I respect all of

1696
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: that for sure, but looke just to deal with the

1697
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: speed and to rely on his craft so much in

1698
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: in wily veteran stuff, you know, not in a dirty way,

1699
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: like like like a like we sometimes you know, use

1700
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: that term for but like in a smart way. He's

1701
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: a he's a factor. And and this is uh again,

1702
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: that's something that's only gonna get so much attention, but

1703
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: should be getting more across, you know, even the entire

1704
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: sports world. I mean, this is a truly remarkable run

1705
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: that he's on right now, and and and he's a

1706
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: credit to boxing and does not get the respect overall,

1707
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 2: you know, for who he is and what he's accomplished

1708
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: that he deserves.

1709
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but but Donair is fighting right now on on

1710
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: a separate network and promoter than what in a way

1711
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: is on with top rank in ESPN. So how likely

1712
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: is it that there could be an in a way rematch? Uh?

1713
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: You know, it depends it's done?

1714
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: Likely? Right?

1715
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1716
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: Not not?

1717
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: You know, that wouldn't demand the money that would necessitate

1718
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: two networks coming together to do a pay per view fight.

1719
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: So that's where the difficulty is in making it. I

1720
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: don't know the specifics of Donators showtime deal and how

1721
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: many fights he has left or whatever of that. I

1722
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: would love if both parties could come together and have

1723
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: a conversation, but it doesn't seem likely under boxing's current

1724
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: business structure. But you know, he keeps saying that's the

1725
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: fight I want, So let's see what happens, Luke.

1726
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: Look at that liver shot, boy, That is just a

1727
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: well placed punch.

1728
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: Oh. By the way, John John Reel Casimiro did not

1729
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: end up having his fight in Dubai. He ended up

1730
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: having to pull out of it, Luke, So you know

1731
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 2: that on the table right absolutely, that could still be

1732
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: a unification fight. That would be fun as heck. And

1733
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 2: you know Casamero goes after it, so that'd be a war.

1734
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: All right. Well, that is it for us on our

1735
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: top five topics. Now it is time for you to

1736
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: ask us questions. It is time for dms from dogs.

1737
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 2: He haw he haw.

1738
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: As everyone knows, we put up a post on Morning

1739
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Combats Instagram page every Sunday asking you guys for questions.

1740
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: You then fill them in, the producers select them, and

1741
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: then we answer. All right, So first, at Z to

1742
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: the N seven. Who's going to let this huge m

1743
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: K win get to their head first? And why is it? Brian?

1744
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: Will this be a destructive boost to our ego? You're

1745
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: damn right.

1746
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think we're gonna go. I think

1747
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Tampa, and you know, I plan

1748
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: on doing a great job there. But the MK, you

1749
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: know that audience who goes to those fights like the

1750
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: the like for example, the audience that was there for

1751
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: Jake versus Tyron one, those were not typical fight fans.

1752
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be, you know, back to Cinderella's

1753
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna be back to without a slipper here pretty soon.

1754
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're damn right, Luke. We're gonna We're gonna

1755
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: carry this bde even further. And look, it's not gonna

1756
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: forget stopping us. We didn't. We didn't level out here.

1757
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: This only lights a deeper fire for us to push

1758
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: and go after it, Luke. And if you know, if

1759
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: we get a little arrogant along the way and doing that, Luke,

1760
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: that's okay, because we're coming.

1761
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: I will say that our post win celebration was not

1762
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: as good as it could have been, in large part

1763
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: because we didn't plan to win, so we didn't have

1764
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: any champagne ready in the limo. The limo was procured

1765
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: last minute, although they did get it. I was actually

1766
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: pretty impressive they got it. We went to dinner and

1767
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: then both Brian and I left the dinner early so

1768
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: we could go to bed. So, you know, not the

1769
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: most like outrageous partying ever.

1770
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: But I mean we're still two old whitewashed dads, and

1771
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: that's I guess the appeal of this show, Luke.

1772
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: Right, I guess so all right? From at Dylan Magnuson

1773
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: one is Dustin now a gatekeeper at the lightweight division. See,

1774
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: I really don't like this framing about gatekeeper gatekeeper. Yes,

1775
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,879
Speaker 1: Dustin is at a position where he can't quite ascend

1776
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: to the level he wants, and so he kind of

1777
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: operates the space a little bit outside of that. In

1778
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: that sense, he's a gatekeeper. But that's not really what

1779
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: gatekeeper means. Gatekeeper is designed to mean somebody who's actually

1780
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: much further down in the rankings list, probably even outside

1781
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: the top ten or top even top fifteen. Well, to

1782
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: argue that, it's like you don't get into the good

1783
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: space until you beat this guy, if you're just outside

1784
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: of the title space. Bec just to wrap this up,

1785
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: that's not typically a term where gatekeeper is applied, or

1786
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: a position.

1787
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: Rather, I mean, you're being literal, and you're right, but

1788
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: let's but there are levels to gatekeepering, and I think

1789
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: the spirit of this question is really, will he be

1790
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: the celebrity gatekeeper, the guy, you know, a guy who

1791
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 2: still takes big fights but is serving himself up in

1792
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: some ways to the next risers. No, I don't think

1793
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, even if he goes down the road.

1794
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 2: I sort of said earlier about more chasing big fights

1795
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: than trying to get back in line he's still I

1796
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: think good enough, Luke. If he decides to get back

1797
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 2: in line, he'll be there, and he may end up

1798
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: there anyway, just for being a competent, ready name who

1799
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: takes on big fights. So no to all of the above,

1800
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: even though Luke this, this is the type of spot

1801
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,919
Speaker 2: where most guys break out and become that celebrity gatekeeper.

1802
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: I just think there's still more fight left in them.

1803
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. That's fair from TVGC MMA. With the

1804
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Nunez defeat, can we now stop calling people the goat

1805
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: until their career is over as supposed to claiming it

1806
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: while they are in the middle of a good slash

1807
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: great run. Well that was more than a good slash

1808
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: great run. Let's go back through this one more time.

1809
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Even prior to the Katz and Ghano loss, for example,

1810
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: Amanda Nunez had wins over Jermaine de random Me, Sheila Gaff,

1811
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: Julia bud Vanessa Porto. She had some good wins before that,

1812
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: but then this is the run that made her right.

1813
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Shana Basler tko, Sarah McMahon submission, Valentina Chevchenko decision, Misha

1814
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,839
Speaker 1: Tate submission, Ronda Rousey TKO Schevchenko again decision, Raquel Pennington TKO,

1815
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: Chris Cyborg KO, Holly Holm TKO, Jermaine Randomy decision for

1816
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: the suspenser decision Megan Anderson's submission, Dude, that I mean

1817
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: that is a fucking all time home run.

1818
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, this was a special case scenario with a special

1819
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, athlete and performer where I felt okay doing that.

1820
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: But the spirit of this question, I think is interesting.

1821
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: I usually lean on the idea of saying, who cares,

1822
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: let's have these debates, but sometimes that's work related. We're

1823
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: always thinking of, you know, filling podcast or radio time

1824
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: with interesting conversation. I do agree that we do need

1825
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: to take a little bit of a step. I wish

1826
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: there was another way, another term that we could use

1827
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 2: in this situation where someone you know might have gotten

1828
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 2: themselves up to a high level. Because the thing is,

1829
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: sometimes one fight can have such a meaning on where

1830
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: somebody in that moment ends up, you know. So it

1831
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: is unfair when when Daniel Cormier knocks out Stepe and

1832
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I think he just joined

1833
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: the upper room, you know, like, and then he loses

1834
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: the rematch and I'm like, oh, I think he just

1835
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: fell out of the upper room. That's not fair. We

1836
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: really shouldn't be I like the idea of having one goat.

1837
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: We should take more time and step back and let

1838
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: someone finish authoring the entire career before we vote on that.

1839
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: It's just not the news cycle the way we operate today.

1840
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 2: I wish there was another term, luke that you know,

1841
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: like they're in the holding queue. They might be getting ready,

1842
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: but they're not there yet. You know, maybe we need

1843
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 2: to care.

1844
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the situation was weird when you had I think

1845
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Silvia or GSP may have been retired at this point,

1846
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: but Silva was kind of still going but then losing

1847
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then Demetrius Johnson was winning when

1848
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: he had that big long win streak, and so there

1849
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: was this constant jockeing where Demetrious would get one win

1850
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: and then Jones would fight, and then also there was

1851
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: this constant changing of position about who might be got

1852
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: in that case. That I think is a certainly a

1853
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: fair point where you should just back off until wait

1854
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: till these things are turned in a little bit more

1855
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: before you can say with Amanda, as you indicated, that

1856
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: run is so uniquely beyond anyone else's run in the

1857
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: women's weight classes and in the history of the sport

1858
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: that I don't have nearly the same trepidation about calling

1859
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: her that, And I don't think that this loss, by

1860
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: the way, changes that, to be honest with you. But

1861
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: fair point, we could there is too much goat talk

1862
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: too early, and we could probably use a little less

1863
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, right from lou Weres eighty seven. Regardless

1864
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 1: if Coldie Garbrett gets released from the UFC or not,

1865
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: which by the way, is a thing we should think about.

1866
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: Do you believe he can still compete at a high

1867
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: level of MMA? What changes does he need to make

1868
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: to find success again?

1869
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: BC, Well, if the issue is what we think it is,

1870
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:27,879
Speaker 2: you know, a major glaring punch resistance issue or strike resistance,

1871
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,879
Speaker 2: at the moment, I don't. I don't think it is fixable.

1872
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: So look, he can still compete at a very high

1873
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 2: level and it might win some of those, but he's

1874
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: a threat to lose, you know, like American was, where

1875
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: it's like every step it's like you're on pins and needles,

1876
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: and that's a spot where you get hurt, and you

1877
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: get hurt a lot. So I'm not saying he has

1878
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: to quit. I'm not saying the UFC has to cut him,

1879
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: but he's in a very tough spot. Could what could change?

1880
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 2: Could he go back and reinvent himself as a wrestle

1881
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 2: first guy, Luke who punches more when he needs to.

1882
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think you could change somebody

1883
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: who's had such a high level success and believes in themselves,

1884
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: and he was in great shape, Like you know, this

1885
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: is one of those really hard moments, Luke, when you know, I, yeah,

1886
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: it's tough to even talk about, Luke, because you know,

1887
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: sometimes people make changes and they make runs, and they

1888
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: put a win losing streak behind them, and they changed

1889
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: things in their life behind the scenes that we didn't

1890
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: know as an issue, and then they fully bloom. I hope.

1891
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: I don't want to close that door on that being possible,

1892
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: but I don't see it.

1893
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think it

1894
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: would be having seen some of the situations I've seen previously,

1895
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: I would not want to be in the space today.

1896
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: Nor am I going to be of saying I don't

1897
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: know if Cody can fight high level anymore. I think

1898
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 1: that's a you know, I'm not saying it's an altogether

1899
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: unfair question to ponder, but even to a hazard an

1900
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: answer seems a little bit unfair with what we're at

1901
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: right now. Plus the guy just fucking lost, Like, let's

1902
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: give him a bit of a break.

1903
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: But Luke, but we it's rare that we see it,

1904
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 2: but we did, just you know, live the end of

1905
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: the Hennon Burrell run where he went from the champ

1906
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: being in like almost pound for pound king to being

1907
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: knocked out. You know, every time you don't see that.

1908
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Even Anderson Silva after he beats Stephan Bonner in like

1909
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: this way of total ease, then he loses to Wideman

1910
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: and he did have so you know, wins after that.

1911
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: Obviously this new boxing thing is great, but in general, Mma,

1912
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that was it like he went from beating

1913
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Bonner with like the most incredible display of skale to

1914
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: just the slow over actually not slow but overnight and

1915
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 1: then continued decline like it can happen that way. But

1916
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,839
Speaker 1: that means, you know, the difference would be like Anderson

1917
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: had this long record before and sometimes.

1918
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Anderson's little different. I mean, Johnny Hendrix is another comparison.

1919
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes when it falls off, it's it's bone.

1920
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: It's immediate. Yes, I mean, here's the thing. People are

1921
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: making this out to be about his chin, which I

1922
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: do think is a relevant factor, especially like it wasn't

1923
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: great at thirty five and then you're dehydrating down to

1924
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: one twenty five, Like this is not doing you any favors.

1925
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: But to me, the other issue that we just kind

1926
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: of have to recognize, and this is what the problem

1927
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: is very significant to me. He gets hit clean, man,

1928
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: he gets hit very clean. A lot people who throw

1929
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: big punches land on him early and often, and that

1930
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,520
Speaker 1: is in part some of the way he is structuring

1931
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: his defense. I think in part it's like understanding what's coming.

1932
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't have I think a lot of the skills

1933
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: necessary from an anticipatory standpoint to make reads about again,

1934
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: with the quarterback that's under center and he's looking at

1935
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: the field, about where you want to throw coverage and

1936
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: what the defense is setting up if you're you're winning

1937
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: that game or winning that series, and that particular down

1938
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,759
Speaker 1: by what judgment calls you make at the line of scrimmage.

1939
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Then you fall back and you see what kind of

1940
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the great reads at the line of scrimmage.

1941
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. What I fear is that I think I think

1942
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: they already tried to make a dramatic change. I think

1943
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: he came out much more like he was circling away

1944
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: early in this fight.

1945
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

1946
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: I thought there was a much I thought he was

1947
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: trying to show that he had really worked on not

1948
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: you know, doing everything to avoid getting into a war.

1949
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 2: I think he was. He was even over compensating to

1950
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 2: show you that. So if they've already tried that and

1951
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: more here, yikes, Luke, yikes.

1952
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: So they're not to beat him up anymore. We'll move

1953
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: on at MT Booble. If SNL Saturday Night Live were

1954
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: to do a parody of m K, who would you

1955
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: want to play you? Oh God, I don't. I don't

1956
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: even know who's on.

1957
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who's on the cast these days.

1958
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: But is there anyone a recent history of Luke that

1959
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: you think, I mean, could have Could Pete Davidson put

1960
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: on a beard and play you, Luke?

1961
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: No? I wonder if that fat ship could play you.

1962
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: I'm why don't we get why don't we get a

1963
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: who's the guy that does? Jason sudeikis you know, Luke?

1964
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he'd be a guest. But you

1965
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: know who I have for turning brothers call me all

1966
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: the time. They call me Kenny Powers because I'm so

1967
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: like dismissive of everybody else. Yeah, I wonder if you

1968
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: could get who's the guy who plays Kenny Powers. It

1969
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: is it's tip of my y McBride, Danny McBride, Dan McBride.

1970
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: You could get him as a guest to play. I

1971
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: think it would be kind of funny. That's it, Someone

1972
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 1: says on the we have we have our staff cutting

1973
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: jokes in the chat. Here can Pete Davidson play me

1974
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: so I can have a shot at some Kardashians. Very funny?

1975
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: All right?

1976
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look, that's a different Yeah, I'll en no,

1977
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 2: no LBB conversation, keep it going.

1978
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: All right. With that in mind, it's time for your ship.

1979
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Let's see it.

1980
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what we do. We searched the globe,

1981
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: the his and lows, the good and bad, the ugly,

1982
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: the in between of combat sports and beyond. Yeah, it's

1983
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 2: called have you seen this ship? All right? Luke UFC

1984
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: two sixty nine in Las Vegas, opening Fight of the Night.

1985
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: How about Priscilla catch AWAYA If you.

1986
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Ain't catch awaya. Did you go to Camp Hiawatha and

1987
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: get the place?

1988
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 2: Has that five hundred?

1989
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1990
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: If you ain't cheating, Luke, you ain't trying. This is

1991
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: dangerous as ship. Putting her thumb deep deep into Jillian

1992
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Jillian Robertson's eyes. Robertson would get the win. But that's

1993
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 2: that's grimy, Luke.

1994
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: That's dirty as shit.

1995
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: That is that is hella dirty? Yes, wow somewhere who's

1996
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: the ref that tried to let her go out on

1997
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: her shoe?

1998
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: And it nearly works too, right, because if you don't

1999
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: understand this, your head has to be on the opposite

2000
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: side of the choking arm, and she was. Because you

2001
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 1: can't have your head and the choking arm on the

2002
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: same side. The mechanics of the choke won't work. It

2003
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: has to be on the other side. So watch as

2004
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: she pushes the thumb here, she actually pushes it almost

2005
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: over to the other side, and then Robinson has to

2006
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: bring her eye back. That actually would have released the

2007
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: choke mechanically, but Robertson hung on. That was dirty as shit.

2008
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 2: From Yeahcila was like head like a hole, black as

2009
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 2: your soul, Luke. I'd rather die than give you control

2010
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, bow down, right, Luke.

2011
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Okay, you can move on to the next one.

2012
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, got weird. Also there Luke Real recognizing

2013
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 2: real as Justin Gatchie. Maybe the next opponent for Charles

2014
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: olivera given him some love. This got me giddy. This

2015
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: got me excited to see these guys stand next.

2016
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 1: Can we also say we got to give a shout

2017
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: out to Justin Gaichee. Justin Gaigee was actually at he

2018
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: was at Friday's World MMA Awards. Brian and I were

2019
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: not together this time. I was outside and he was inside,

2020
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: and we had switched places for a little wile because

2021
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: we're running all over the place trying to find people

2022
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Independent so Brian and I were not together.

2023
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: Justin Gaechee stopped both Brian and I by name to

2024
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: congratulate us on MK. He saught me. He's like, hey, Luke,

2025
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: look Luca and he shook out his hands. He's got

2026
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: medy hands for a one fifty fiver and he was congratulations,

2027
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: do great job. But he was enthusiastic, So shouts.

2028
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Gaichee, Well that was well done from Justin Geigee.

2029
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 2: You want to be in the upper tier of the

2030
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 2: MK Favorite Fighters Guild, Luke. That includes Billy Q and

2031
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Joanna and uh and a few other Latin faucis. That's

2032
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 2: how you do it, Lake. Okay, wow, wait if.

2033
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: I am I Latin fauci or are they Latin foun

2034
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: you are.

2035
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Because you are protecting, Yes, and they're all circumstances. All right,

2036
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here, Sean O'Malley got the finish

2037
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 2: of haleon pey paiva peva, Luke, But how about the celebration?

2038
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: Can you grade this, Luke?

2039
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is he doing here? Who's this?

2040
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Like?

2041
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: Is he doing the Steph Curry?

2042
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah thing, that's his thing? Though he's got the tatt

2043
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 2: on the neck of him doing that? Is that cool? Luke?

2044
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 2: Is that what the people want?

2045
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I guess his hair matched his owl tattooed chest piece,

2046
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 1: which I thought was.

2047
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: Kind of I will say, like, I underestimated how much

2048
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: of this crowd would go nuts for Amanda Nunis. They

2049
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 2: love her, but they love them some char O'Malley. I

2050
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 2: mean this this is working, Luke, That's what I'm saying.

2051
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 2: Like he's got the whole crowd in his hands.

2052
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm telling you, man, the crowd popped big for him,

2053
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: and he do. He delivers, Sean O'Malley fucking delivers. So

2054
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when he gets to the upper

2055
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: tier of the division. But what he's doing right now,

2056
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: it is working all right.

2057
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 2: Wholesome moment before the start of two six ' nine,

2058
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 2: Luke Is, Amanda Nunis and Nina Nunis come out with

2059
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: daughter Reagan the bus. Luke. I love that she. I mean, look,

2060
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: obviously the fight was this disaster, but that she really

2061
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 2: tries to include her daughter and in this and get

2062
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 2: the experience. Look, there's some wholesome stuff within UFC once.

2063
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: In a while. Yeah, this is super super cute. And

2064
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: as somebody who was just in this kind of place

2065
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: with their own daughter, I know the feels. Man, It

2066
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: is an awesome, awesome feeling. So congratulations to the new

2067
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: nez is there into this little one. Very very cute.

2068
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: But once the Paena upset happened Luke, stuff went wild,

2069
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: including Michael Kiessa, who's a teammate of Juliana Pena wrong

2070
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: video here, but we'll show it. This is him celebrating.

2071
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: This is fine, dude, because we'll talk about it. I

2072
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: know which one you're talking about. He was feeling it.

2073
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: He was feeling it for his teammate. I don't want

2074
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: to say he's not shouting to Michael Kissa. He likes

2075
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: chocolate mus because he's a he's an animal, but other

2076
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: than that, he's a good guy. He was also drunk

2077
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: as a skunk and it overwhelmed. It overwhelmed him like

2078
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: it has you and I many a time. But congrats,

2079
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: we have that video Corey it.

2080
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, he jumped the fence. Yes, I saw him in

2081
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: front of the media table. A security was dragging him

2082
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: out and he had a huge cut. Apparently. Dama said

2083
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 2: afterwards that he tripped and fell and hit his face,

2084
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 2: but he got the uh oh, we don't have that. Okay,

2085
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: that could be my bad, but either way, he got

2086
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 2: the hug. They are long time teammates and friends. So

2087
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: it's great to see, all right, Luke Beckst, Let's keep

2088
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 2: it going tight. Toy Vasa got a big knockout of

2089
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 2: Augusto Sakaida win his fourth straight, and he gave the

2090
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: people what he wanted, what they wanted atop the cage. Luke,

2091
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: this has become you talk about a crowd embracing someone. Dude,

2092
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 2: Vegas gets this guy and he delivers Luke.

2093
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm a little bit over the shoey thing.

2094
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: I think I've said that before. You know, it's it

2095
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: was fun to do. It's played out a little bit.

2096
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: But I could find the tape. But he ended up

2097
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 2: doing about three or four shoeies as he's walking down

2098
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 2: the aisle and then he got he got it in

2099
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: his eye on the last one and he was like

2100
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 2: a mess. He was staggering around as he went backstage. Luke,

2101
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he was like a legit mess.

2102
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: This part is gross and I don't really have a

2103
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: lot to say about it except it's a little bit

2104
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: played out. But Tui Vasa four stoppages in a row,

2105
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: I believe, and he's only twenty eight years old in

2106
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division. He's changing up his training scenario. Dude,

2107
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: he keep your eye on old tie to Vasa. I

2108
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly. I thought he was just kind of

2109
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 1: like a heavy set brawler from Australia and he started

2110
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: out that way ABC, but he might become something pretty special.

2111
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes.

2112
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he may become that again and just be

2113
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 2: a fun TV guy. But for now, he's gonna try

2114
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: to find out how good he can be. This is

2115
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: fun to watch, Luke. We mentioned the World MMA Awards

2116
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 2: that went down on Friday night, shout out to Fighters

2117
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: Only magazine. We got a great mix of d and

2118
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: eliss celebrity.

2119
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 1: We got that.

2120
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: We got the Ocean Spray guy from the Fleetwood Max song.

2121
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 2: That guy was there, the.

2122
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: Guy who went viral for like a TikTok video or whatever.

2123
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Luke. We also had host Chail Sun and

2124
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 2: out here slaying with the one liners. Here's a little

2125
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 2: piece if you missed it. I got my eye on

2126
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 2: this guy so many fighters they should nickname him child Support.

2127
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: But we're not gonna talk about Connor McGregor. This is

2128
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: the awards. I said that, Yeah, that was a good one.

2129
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: That was uh look uh my wife and kids, by

2130
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 2: the way, watched this this stream live and we're just like,

2131
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 2: what planet are you on with some of those performances.

2132
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 2: But they didn't enjoy uh Chill's humor. But I thought

2133
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 2: he nailed at.

2134
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: Luke across the board, Yeah dude, he There was definitely

2135
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 1: some audible silence and groans. But you me and Courtney

2136
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: from Showtime, we were We were lolling back there. He

2137
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: was going for dude, here's who took a beating from,

2138
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: like all the jokes at the MMA Awards, Sjw's there's

2139
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot of jokes at their expense. Yeah, Tito Ortiz.

2140
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Tito Orte's got just bludgeoned by the jokes that were there.

2141
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: John Jones got bludgeoned a little bit, but definitely Tito.

2142
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: Poor Tito. He took. He took quite the l there

2143
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: at the Oh.

2144
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: He came at Chob too, He came at him.

2145
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: Oh, it's job, yes, shop shop out a bit of

2146
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: a beat in there too.

2147
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of January sixth material, but jail delivered

2148
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 2: overalls he had If.

2149
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: You guys didn't see it, he was like, you know,

2150
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Colby so fast he got search good cardio, probably from

2151
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 1: running inside and outside the Capitol Building on January sixth.

2152
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: Me and BC PopEd for that one. We thought that

2153
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: was a great joke.

2154
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: Uh, top break boxing from MSG. You mentioned that hook

2155
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 2: that Loma had to knock Richard Kome down.

2156
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: Off to look at that. Dude, look at I mean,

2157
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,480
Speaker 1: look at the timing and the window and dude, mechanically

2158
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: it's not a super efficient punch, right, he's not. There's

2159
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: no wind up.

2160
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 2: Bah.

2161
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Look at that dude. That is a master craftsman against

2162
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,879
Speaker 1: not some chump against very good opposition.

2163
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 2: He's is old school, he can box, he can punch.

2164
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean he got made to look like an amateur

2165
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,759
Speaker 2: in this fight. Holy crap, that was wizard like stuff

2166
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 2: on the undercard though, Luke John Boza going in against

2167
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Michael Williams Junior and uh, congratulations, you've got a one

2168
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 2: way ticket to hell. Do we have the video or

2169
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: can I elongate this awkward pause even more? Is there

2170
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: any ship back there that we can we can inspect?

2171
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: Here we go, here, we go backwards too. Yikes, yikes.

2172
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the top break undercards they give

2173
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 2: you that they give you the knockouts you're looking for.

2174
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: It's usually Yeah, it's like the Bellatur undercards. There's a

2175
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: lot of death and destruction on those things.

2176
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Ah wow, all right, Luke real

2177
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: recognizing real. At ringside, a very intoxicated Tyson Fury came

2178
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 2: to sing Happy Birthday to ninety year old Bob Aram

2179
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: and old tender Usik was there in the front row,

2180
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: so we got a little uh little size in each

2181
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 2: other up, Luke, A nice little moment here. I got

2182
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 2: fired up.

2183
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: You Yeah, Usik Usik not Usik not being weird about

2184
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: it in the sense of he's still a weird person,

2185
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: but he wasn't being weird about like them fighting or something.

2186
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: You know.

2187
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see when Fury sat on the desk

2188
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: with the uh with Testitur and all of them and

2189
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: tried to do it that It was like an SNL segment.

2190
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 2: It was to watch. Fury was just he was He

2191
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 2: was like chill sunnon in that moment, Luke, All right,

2192
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 2: let's go back into the ring. Silver medalist at the Olympics,

2193
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Keishawn Davis improves to four and oh, Luke, he's just

2194
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 2: twenty two. Look at how uh wow, we are out

2195
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 2: of order here? Uh do we not have that one? Guys?

2196
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Which one is this?

2197
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 2: Uh?

2198
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: We're trying to.

2199
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go. Here's Keishan Davis and

2200
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 2: the Black Trunks. Luke, look at this body shot to

2201
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: just break Jose Zaragoza. Wow.

2202
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, man, he.

2203
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Is someone to watch. Just twenty two four and oh

2204
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: his brother was also on the card and had a

2205
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: nice knockout win. But be on the lookout. There another name, Luke,

2206
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 2: Big Baby Anderson, Jared Anderson, the unbeaten heavyweight prospect. He's

2207
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 2: got his own section here of have you seen this ship.

2208
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 2: Let's start with the walk to the ring, looking like

2209
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Samaki Walker on Draft night. Luke, Look at this.

2210
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: This is BC walking up to except his award on Friday.

2211
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 1: Right here.

2212
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean that outfit should come with hoes, Luke, that's fantastic.

2213
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: I love that right there.

2214
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Really should It's quite the scene.

2215
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 2: He continued the drama inside the ring against Alexander tes Lenko.

2216
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: This is Big Baby putting it on him.

2217
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Oh double jab Ooh got him with the old stanky.

2218
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 2: You know, he's a good looking prospect. And some people say, hey,

2219
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 2: ain't there too many people named big Baby? Luke. When

2220
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 2: I think of big Baby, I think of Glenn Davis

2221
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight Celtics NBA Champions, and the two

2222
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: babies got together before the fight in the locker room.

2223
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 2: If we could advance the slide.

2224
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about Jerrell Miller.

2225
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah there's yeah, there's there's too many big babies. You're right, Luke,

2226
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 2: there is Okay, all right, let's keep it going. Let's

2227
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 2: check out Mma from around the globe. We head to

2228
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 2: one championship and Luke check out this the jujits on

2229
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 2: this referee after this finish.

2230
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Oh no, loft a heel hook?

2231
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus hap tapper, tapper snap.

2232
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not a he'll hook it. It's almost like

2233
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: a knee bar. But he's a little bit off. He's

2234
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: he's stretching in a little bit.

2235
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy tap quick. He's like, come on, let's go,

2236
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: come on, Yeah, none of that. All right, Let's go

2237
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 2: over to EFC forty three. Meddi de car Luke with

2238
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 2: a diving ko are you kidding me?

2239
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I saw this?

2240
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 2: I could Are you kidding me?

2241
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. The narrowest of windows off balance,

2242
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 1: a literal arm punch, but he just found a way.

2243
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: The guy didn't see it coming and it had an

2244
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:36,520
Speaker 1: effect unbelievable.

2245
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 2: That's like a full court shot to win the game

2246
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 2: or something that's just wacky.

2247
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: And he did that Tyson shift watch where he throws

2248
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: the punch and then pivots. He watch he throws it,

2249
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: pivots off to the side and then just dove into it.

2250
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 1: It's a powerful punch when you land it to the

2251
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: body from that southball stance. But he watched he pivots

2252
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: and then throws. That's crazy, man.

2253
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,560
Speaker 2: Look let's go back to one championship. He may be

2254
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: pushing fifty, but Sexa Yama still throwing dudes around.

2255
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Luke.

2256
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Check out this high level judo work.

2257
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just an outside trip. Looks like let me

2258
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: see one more time. Yeah no, I'd say Harai Guoshi.

2259
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: I think both legs he's got there.

2260
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 2: He's still jacked, Luke. This guy's still jack. He's got.

2261
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 2: I would love to see his dms.

2262
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,560
Speaker 1: You probably couldn't read them because they're going to be

2263
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: in Korean or Japanese.

2264
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, okay, I don't know how to feel that.

2265
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Let's go over to FAC eleven. Here's Van sand making

2266
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 2: justin little throw up after Luke. That's an immediate TKO.

2267
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is me after you record like

2268
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: wrestling content.

2269
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well did he roll in the park? Yeah all right?

2270
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 2: Uh de his own boxing from England, Luke. Big day

2271
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: for Connor ben Right, son of Royalty, twenty five years old.

2272
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 2: He keeps his unbeaten run alive at Walter Wait against

2273
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 2: the veteran Chris al Jerry good.

2274
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: This was about Chris Al Jerry VITTI pass from Jenna

2275
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: Montrix made this point on it Instagram. You know Chris

2276
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: algery not You're not saying he's the best fighter ever

2277
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 1: and he is thirty seven, but dude, he's always an

2278
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: impeccable shape. He's like a strength and conditioning guy for

2279
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: other boxers now, and I don't think I've seen anyone

2280
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: put it on him with a one to two like

2281
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: that ever. Have you even Pakia No?

2282
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Spence ate him up, but a

2283
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 2: lot of that was to the body, but not like this, dude.

2284
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,839
Speaker 2: I mean that this is a lot of people comparing

2285
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 2: this knockout to to when Marvin Hagler knocked out Roberto

2286
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 2: duran with one I'm sorry Thomas Thomas him and Hearn's

2287
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 2: knocking out Roberto Durant with that vicious shot in round

2288
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 2: two just by the way Al Jerry fell. It was

2289
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I mean, that's a shotgun going off

2290
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 2: and it's over that is that's beautiful? It looks Connor

2291
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 2: Ben's making noise a lot of people trying to get

2292
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,560
Speaker 2: me to ABC. Is he for real? He's starting to

2293
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: beat the guys. He's getting closer to that him. He's

2294
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 2: got wins over Sebastian Formela, Samuel Vargas, Adrian Grenados, and

2295
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: now you put this type of destructive win against Algerry.

2296
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: He's certainly not there yet, but he's he's showing signs.

2297
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch this guy rise. He's he's pretty nasty.

2298
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 2: So Luke, let's keep it going. Showtime Boxing brand Dunlee

2299
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 2: Luke just twenty.

2300
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: Two years old, Brandon Lee and Thump. Dude.

2301
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: We know he's a puncher, but this was the fight

2302
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 2: against Jana Raaldez to show how good he really is. Dude,

2303
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: he passed this test with flying colors.

2304
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 1: He sure did. This guy has been on the he

2305
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: started out on still in ten rounders. But you know

2306
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: you're seeing right away why like PBC and Showtime have

2307
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of spotlight this spotlet this kid. He can absolutely

2308
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: bring the hammers and he's he can box too. He's quick,

2309
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: he's young, he's twenty four and oh someone to watch.

2310
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty four and oh with twenty two. Ko's just

2311
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: twenty two years old. That went down on Saturday on

2312
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 2: the Donair undercard at the the The Punch bowl, as

2313
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: Moro calls it. Let's keep it rolling here, Luke, Patricio Pippoll, dude,

2314
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 2: they I mean this, this rivalry between him and Chandler,

2315
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 2: it's never gonna die. You see him send Chandler to

2316
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: hell on Twitter? Here Luke, we zoom in.

2317
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: What does I would never ever quit? Chandler says, I

2318
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: went out on my shield after being separated from consciousness.

2319
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: Congrats to OLIVERA. So is he?

2320
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is Chandler sending a shot

2321
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 2: at Poria and trying to say he he quit. But

2322
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 2: Pipole comes out with you turned your back to Charles

2323
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 2: and run away after being clipped. You quit against gae Chee. Also,

2324
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: let's not forget you asked Will Brooks for a time out.

2325
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 2: Shut your damn mouf. You've been pathetic. Look he that's

2326
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 2: like Oz where the guy chat on the other guy

2327
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 2: that I mean, he just dropped that that dump right there.

2328
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: I know.

2329
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: And the part that's weird is like pitpull got the

2330
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 1: best of him and he's still bitter at him, you

2331
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2332
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's a real blood feud, right there? Is

2333
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 2: he right though? Is he right?

2334
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Luke?

2335
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 2: Not?

2336
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Really? I mean yes, he did ask for the time

2337
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: out against will Brooks because he was his He must

2338
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: have been so rattled. But I don't think he quit

2339
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,759
Speaker 1: against gae Chee and he ran from Charles because Charles

2340
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: was punching him in the face. So you know, all right,

2341
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little bit more forgiving of

2342
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Pitbull than Luke.

2343
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 2: If you look for Easter eggs, you'll find them, And

2344
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 2: there's hidden Mickey's everywhere. Check out this town's Christmas lighting. Luke,

2345
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: Well we go. What are we doing here? I mean,

2346
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean, does anyone fact checking quality control here? Luke?

2347
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: For this town?

2348
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: That's my neighborhood. I didn't tell you that, but that's

2349
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: my neighborhood right there.

2350
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dick City. Where are you from, Luke Shatcksville? Yeah yeah, Wow, okay,

2351
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: uh Luke. Anytime there's a brutal rolling thunder, ko, we'll

2352
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: we'll find it. Here's a karate match.

2353
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: Oh Sun, this is BC. When he says, you know

2354
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: I got cold fries when I when I ordered him

2355
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: at Arby's, don't be doing that ship.

2356
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 2: You know, the World m A Awards had some cold sliders, Luke.

2357
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean that ship was not due whatever Awards, which

2358
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: by the way, was in generally a great event and

2359
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm very glad we attended. But they served catering food

2360
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: which tasted fine, but they didn't have any heating elements

2361
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: under it. So by the time you got to it,

2362
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: I was like, did you guys refreeze these What happened

2363
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: of this food?

2364
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 2: It was?

2365
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: It was ice.

2366
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 2: I do like their idea. They're like, what do we

2367
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 2: feed these people? Let's get four thousand sliders. They'll love that,

2368
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 2: you know.

2369
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 1: So that means what they weren't wrong.

2370
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't wrong, all right, Luke. You ever hear

2371
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 2: a ghost ride the whip public ghost ride, this spinning truck?

2372
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,919
Speaker 2: Either way, Luke, it's bound to catch a few lols.

2373
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh wow. This is just I love seeing

2374
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: the idiots like, hey everyone, bop there you go, there

2375
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 1: we go?

2376
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 2: All right? Look BKFC Shenanigan's Julian Lange of Let's Bang

2377
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 2: Let Me Bang bro successfully baited Mike Perry on the

2378
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: broadcast into a fight. You asked for it, you get

2379
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 2: it with MP here, Luke, did you see this platinum

2380
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 2: dust up?

2381
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 1: Let me say, let me ask a question. Who goes

2382
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 1: to a BKFC event and wears a mask that seems like.

2383
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: I have a second view where you can actually see

2384
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 2: the fighting here. As the broadcast chose not to show

2385
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: the live tape of the fighting, luckily fans saw it.

2386
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: Wow, Luke, you know Gribacca Hitman put this the best,

2387
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 1: which is Mike Perry is home this really, dude, I'm not,

2388
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not doing a bit. He is going

2389
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: to elevate his brand this way.

2390
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 2: Like, this is so pro wrestling. I can't I love it.

2391
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is this is some of the

2392
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 2: things that BKFC does does really well. They basically put

2393
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 2: crazy people in there to create pro wrestling like moments

2394
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: that are like I mean, it's a little Jerry Springer.

2395
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 2: It's a little ridiculous, but uh it does get you

2396
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: to care about the fight, Luke, or at least uh,

2397
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's not bad promoting,

2398
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. They got the right people

2399
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 2: for that over there. Wow, all right, Luke, let's keep

2400
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 2: it going here. This video has made the rounds. This

2401
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 2: guy takes a hard l I'm not saying this isn't fake, Luke,

2402
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 2: but eventually it was gonna make the show either way.

2403
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 1: No, it's fake. It's fake. It's not real. This is

2404
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: this is me most times at the gym warming up.

2405
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Just what the fuck is happening in my life? Was

2406
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 1: right there?

2407
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, I got one more for you. We're

2408
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 2: gonna have to play the audio.

2409
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: There wasn't nearly enough drunk chicks for this one. I'm

2410
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: a little bit disappointed.

2411
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 2: And what happened? Here you go. You want drunk chicks?

2412
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 2: We got him, Luke, All right, here we go. Oh wow,

2413
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: it's over. It's over, ladies and gentlemen. White girl summer

2414
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 2: has been canceled.

2415
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I can't hear me, see now I can hear him? Yeah, dude,

2416
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: that is. Let me ask you, what's more annoying if

2417
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 1: you're at a bar and you see a van pull up?

2418
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: A van full of drunk dudes or a van full

2419
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 1: of drunk chicks? What's more annoying?

2420
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 2: If it's a bachelorette party, then the band the drum chicks,

2421
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 2: without question.

2422
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Look, dude, I got these these bachelorette I mean, Vegas

2423
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 1: is just so gross. These are so gross. It's unbelievably

2424
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: fucking gross. These bachelorette parties at Vegas where like by

2425
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 1: the time the bride to be is done and she's

2426
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: walking around MGM at three in the morning like this

2427
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: and none of none of, none of the bridal party

2428
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 1: has shoes and they're walking around and like things are slipped.

2429
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: These these women are are heinous creatures. That's one point.

2430
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 2: By the way, it was it was Rodeo weekend. Look,

2431
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 2: I always get stuck in Rodeo weekend in Vegas always.

2432
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I said this on Friday. You

2433
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 1: know what's interesting about these guys who are on the

2434
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: rodeo They love wearing masks. They love that ship.

2435
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah that made Luke Fauci very happy.

2436
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

2437
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all the ship I got this week.

2438
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was good. That was good. All right, BC.

2439
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 1: We have time now for maybe a quick story worth

2440
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: mentioning that maybe maybe a missed. It's time for odds

2441
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: and ends. What do you have for us?

2442
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 2: I just want to say this this year for the UFC,

2443
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: which is not over. We've got one more fight card

2444
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 2: this Saturday. But you know the pay per view seasons

2445
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 2: behind us. We know it's their number one year financially. Ever,

2446
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: this is this is the ESPN deal come full bloom

2447
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 2: in terms of what they're capable of, and this year

2448
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 2: has been incredible. Savor the flavor, like, really enjoy it.

2449
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 2: This might this is the this is the time right now,

2450
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 2: Like this is the best it's ever been. You may

2451
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: have more. You may have a certain love that came

2452
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 2: with where this brand was, you know, in the in

2453
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 2: the mid two thousands and in coming bloom that may

2454
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 2: be more romanticized twenty sixteen. As I always say, you know,

2455
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: covering going on the road for all those big counterfeits.

2456
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: It was something I never experienced. But Luke, the sport

2457
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 2: is like as healthy as can be, not just in UFC,

2458
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 2: but with you know, PFL making moves, Bellatur's got a

2459
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: huge TV deal, all this stuff. This is, this is

2460
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if it can get any better. I mean,

2461
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 2: there's just badass fights every week and this year has

2462
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: been incredible for the leaders UFC at the top, and

2463
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: I want to give them their just due. Do I

2464
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 2: feel a storm is coming one day with with the

2465
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 2: fighter pay thing. Once that comes full boom, yeah, that's

2466
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a that's gonna be a tough time to

2467
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,919
Speaker 2: navigate to see if if the business could still operate

2468
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: this fan friendly once once the pay gets where it

2469
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: should be to be fair, I don't know. We'll see

2470
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 2: what happens then. But until that storm hits, Luke, like,

2471
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 2: let's take a moment here, like we we benefit from

2472
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 2: this sport being this thriving this much. Absolutely, of course,

2473
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 2: you know the show is built around that. But you know, yeah,

2474
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 2: I got to tip my cap to Dana and company

2475
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 2: and it was great. Uh great, getting a chance to

2476
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 2: sick cage side again for a fight card. This amazing.

2477
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 2: But uh, look, this may be the best of times.

2478
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: It certainly. Maybe there is one more UFC card this

2479
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: upcoming weekend, which we'll talk about as the week goes on,

2480
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: although we're going to be in Tampa for the Jake

2481
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: Paul fight. But they have do that their UFC has

2482
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: not had a bad year. They have had an absolutely

2483
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: murderously good year and there's no reason why in twenty

2484
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: twenty two that should not continue. So we've said it before,

2485
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: we'll say it again, for not just this reason, but

2486
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: for many reasons. I do think this is the golden

2487
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 1: age of combat sports. For my odds and ends, it

2488
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: was briefly I think challenged for a little while, but

2489
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: subsequent reports have shown that it is true. UFC two

2490
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: seventy one will be headlined by a middleweight title bout

2491
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: between Israel Atasignia and Robert Whitaker. Of course they fought previously.

2492
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: Whittaker has since rattled off wins over Gastolum, over cannoneer

2493
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: over Till and has brought him back to this position.

2494
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: We don't. I think it's not. I believe it's going

2495
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 1: to be in Houston, Texas at the Toyota Center. Also

2496
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: in that card, another fellow KIWEK, Carlos Alberg will be

2497
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 1: on it and we'll see how else it fills out.

2498
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 1: But initially there were some questions about ottasign Is saying

2499
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't true. I'm the reportings that the contracts have

2500
01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: not been signed, just verbally agreed to. UFC went ahead

2501
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 1: and announced it anyway. But you get the idea of BC,

2502
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 1: you're excited for the remaster out sign and Whitaker.

2503
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 2: It's number one fight I need to see next year.

2504
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 2: The fact that it's you know, happening makes that even sweeter. Luke,

2505
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 2: this is in the US, as you're saying, dude, we

2506
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 2: may have.

2507
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: To go to that. I think so too. I haven't

2508
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: been to an out of signing fight in a long time.

2509
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's like a fight, like we may have

2510
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 2: to be there, Like this could be special, Luke. I'm

2511
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: you know, I could talk this up and it could

2512
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: just be another day at the office and maybe out

2513
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 2: of signya does that all over again. I don't know,

2514
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 2: but I think this is going to be an epic fight.

2515
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 2: And these two are you know, historically all time great guys,

2516
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: uh in this division, in this sport, I think. But

2517
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, when all said and done, is you know,

2518
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 2: these guys are the goods. This is gonna be great theater.

2519
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for this, bye, Luke.

2520
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is going to be pretty interesting. Okay,

2521
01:57:56,120 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: be see. That is it for today. Just want to folks,

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Speaker 2: I use that lawnmower Luke. They got the guard on there,

2530
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Speaker 2: so you can't cut yourself. I mean, that's what you

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Speaker 2: really want to know as a guy. Okay, I'll buy

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Speaker 2: your guy products, do they you know, well, I not

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 2: get cut. When I clean up it, you know, you'll

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01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 2: be fine. You'll be just fine.

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Speaker 1: So you have the ear you have the lawnmower, you

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01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: have the thing for trimming your ear hair. Go to

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Speaker 1: manscape dot com, use the code combat ko mb a

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01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: T and there you have it that will take care

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01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: of you for the holidays or your your male friends

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01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: or whoever. Also, you can go to Morning Coombat dot store.

2541
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: You can get our merch. Holiday merch is here order

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01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 1: now to make sure you get it on time. But

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01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 1: BC indicated we have crazy sweaters, we have crazy underwear.

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01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, they didn't nominate Factory Town MMA

2545
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: for of the Year BC, but we have Factory Town

2546
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: MMA gear.

2547
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 2: Go damn right, we do.

2548
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: BC. We're sitting next each other at the awards ceremony

2549
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, and then now the nominees for a

2550
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 1: Gym of the Year, and they went through them all

2551
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: and BC goes, you know, Factory Town MM got robbed.

2552
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, maybe they did a little bit. Uh,

2553
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 1: let's see showtime dot com get a thirty day free trial.

2554
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Plenty of combat sports coming your way in twenty twenty

2555
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 1: two on Showtime, No time like the Present, get a

2556
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: thirty day free trial. If you like it, you can

2557
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: keep it. If not, you can go pound sand Of course,

2558
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 1: like and subscribe. If you're listening on YouTube, give us

2559
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: a nice review for the podcast side of things. If

2560
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: you were listening on the audio side, and oh yes,

2561
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 1: for Wednesdays, fan subs and for Friday is Dead Wrong

2562
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: Morningcombat at gmail dot com Morning Call at gmail dot com.

2563
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: We'll be the place for that. We do.

2564
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 2: You know, we have Dead Wrong every Friday where we

2565
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: take the stand and we own up. We haven't always

2566
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: been perfect on our communication over social media to you

2567
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 2: guys when our show schedule changes due to travel. This

2568
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: weekend is obviously a big pay per view Saturday night

2569
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 2: Showtime Paper when Tyron Woodley gets a second chance at Jake,

2570
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 2: Paul Luke and I will be there in Tampa this

2571
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 2: week beginning on Wednesday. We will have some alternate times

2572
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: for our shows at least Wednesday afternoon definitely, so we'll

2573
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 2: keep you abreast of that. Hope hopefully at full cup

2574
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 2: right and on Twitter, on on social media, on ig

2575
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 2: but the show could be fluid on Wednesday based on

2576
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: what time we get it going. But Luke, expect great

2577
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 2: content from us this week when we're on the ground,

2578
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 2: uh in one of the one of the one of

2579
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 2: our country's beautiful areas. There that Tampa Saint Pete White

2580
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: Sand Beaches. Luke, that's I love that. That's an under

2581
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: underrated hang that area. Luke.

2582
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably gonna get COVID, but that's okay, Well

2583
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna do so, Yes, we're looking forward to that,

2584
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 1: but we get our showtimes might be adjusted a little

2585
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: bit on Wednesday and Friday. We will do our absolute

2586
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 1: best to keep you informed. But don't forget BC and

2587
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 1: are going to be hosting the workouts the way in

2588
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 1: the press. We'll be there for everything. We got you

2589
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: covered for this second go round on all that madness.

2590
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 1: So if you we're out in Tampa, come say hi

2591
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. All right, BC, one more time,

2592
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: Let's think, of course, all the CBS staff, all the

2593
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 1: showtime staff, all of the Malka staff. If we haven't

2594
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 1: been clear about how much they do for us as well,

2595
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 1: and let's thank those MK fans. Dude, I didn't believe

2596
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: we could do it, and we did it. Let's take

2597
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: that momentum that they helped lift us to and let's

2598
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: have a big twenty twenty two.

2599
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, you guys put the spotlight on us. This

2600
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 2: makes up have to raise our game even more if

2601
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: there's going to be a shot at you know, more

2602
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 2: eyes on this product from this great success that you

2603
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 2: gave it us. Thank you. We're going to rise to

2604
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 2: the occasion and that's what we do here MK all day,

2605
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 2: nearly every day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you. Thank you for for Malka, for

2607
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, for Showtime, for Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas

2608
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 1: until next time. We won and we're not surprised. Mother fuckers.