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Speaker 1: announced chili. It's winter greens. I know it. It's winter greens.
Speaker 1: And as fans will soon find out, during my interview
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown and Buffalo Bills dot Com, he told
Speaker 1: me that there is a little bit of white stuff
Speaker 1: for waiting us in then six. Yeah, So basically, e
Speaker 1: A spoke to Chris Brown of Buffalo Bills dot Com
Speaker 1: and we'll see what he had to say. What did
Speaker 1: Chris have to say? Well, what did you guys hit on?
Speaker 1: I figured that you guys on the quarterback? I talked
Speaker 1: a lot about the quarterbacks. Actually, um, you know, typically
Speaker 1: we're not promoting a ton of content outside the Jets
Speaker 1: because we have so many miles to feed here. But
Speaker 1: Chris actually asked me a series of questions about Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: and then a few questions about Josh Allen because he
Speaker 1: is writing a story this week where he's going to
Speaker 1: talk about both these guys potentially facing off for the
Speaker 1: first time in their NFL careers. As we tape right now,
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday morning. Donald was limited at practice, didn't play
Speaker 1: last week. Let's see if they can ramp them up
Speaker 1: a little bit today. UH, have him shake off some
Speaker 1: of that rust and maybe I'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1: But that's how it started this week with me and
Speaker 1: Brownie and I said, hey, can you come on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Most of my questions were focused on the freak who
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen, and also a little bit about a
Speaker 1: potential matchup of Donald going against a very good Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills defense. Back in April, when Sam Donald was drafted
Speaker 1: third overall and Josh Allen was drafted seventh overall, everyone
Speaker 1: thought that this was going to be the matchup of
Speaker 1: the a f C East for the years to come,
Speaker 1: the post Brady era, and they didn't play against each
Speaker 1: other in Week ten. None of those guys played in
Speaker 1: Week ten. Josh Allen was still dealing with an elbow injury.
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley played in his place, Josh McCown. His first
Speaker 1: start of the season came against the Buffalo Bills because
Speaker 1: Sam Donald had strained his right foot the week before
Speaker 1: in Week nine. So if these two guys play Sunday
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in the seven one six, the home of
Speaker 1: the A, what are you expecting out of these two guys?
Speaker 1: And on from a macro level is this I have
Speaker 1: to imagine Jets and Bills fans are excited about this
Speaker 1: potential matchup for the years to come. Well, listen, I
Speaker 1: think over the last few weeks, I think if you're
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, uh, you want your team to win.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people the other end
Speaker 1: of the spectrum are thinking about the draft and I
Speaker 1: get that too. Listen, we we can't completely ignore that,
Speaker 1: especially if you are a fan, because you definitely want
Speaker 1: the top overall pick, because that means you would have
Speaker 1: the choice of the most talented guys in the country.
Speaker 1: But that's not the way you think inside an organization.
Speaker 1: But you want to see Sam Donald play. He hasn't
Speaker 1: played more than a month, and that's tough if you're
Speaker 1: a fan. Just like the Bills went through something similar
Speaker 1: where you mentioned Alan strained elbow, so he was out
Speaker 1: of the lineup for three or four weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: you want both these guys on the field because these
Speaker 1: guys are your respective futures. I mean, I think they're
Speaker 1: both big time talents. I told you this before the draft,
Speaker 1: and I went back and forth on Allen for a while.
Speaker 1: But by the time we spoke to a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I if my memory serves me correctly, once you
Speaker 1: came back from the owners meetings, you are in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like, these were my top two in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen draft class, and nothing that has been
Speaker 1: done this season has changed my mind. I know Sam
Speaker 1: Donald's leading the NFL and interceptions and he hasn't played
Speaker 1: more than a month. I know Josh Allen his accuracy um.
Speaker 1: He continues to come up because people are talking about
Speaker 1: he's completing what fifty of his passes and things like that,
Speaker 1: and he's got some playground um to his game. But
Speaker 1: I like both of these kids, and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be very good players. I'm very interested to see
Speaker 1: how Sam Donald comes back from his time away from
Speaker 1: the starting spot, because you talked about Josh Allen, and
Speaker 1: you see what he did since coming back from his injury,
Speaker 1: and regardless of the result of the games, I feel
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen has been making more plays and last
Speaker 1: week you look at it, he ran for a hundred
Speaker 1: thirty five yards on nine carries. I'm just curious to
Speaker 1: see how much the game slows down for Sam Donald
Speaker 1: after coming back from injury, after watching Josh mccount operate
Speaker 1: the offense, not only operate the offense and on game day,
Speaker 1: but in practice and how he goes about a game
Speaker 1: week as the starting quarterback for the team. So I'm
Speaker 1: very excited to see Donald play because we've talked about
Speaker 1: it numerous times that any reps a rookie gets are
Speaker 1: important reps because you start to develop quicker, you start
Speaker 1: to learn a little faster, and maybe maybe you never know,
Speaker 1: this time away will really expedite Donald's learning curve greens.
Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback. I hope you know that by now,
Speaker 1: but you could watching the last time Donald's out there
Speaker 1: in the field Miami, his feet and his eyes were off.
Speaker 1: If you just watched the film, his feet weren't where
Speaker 1: they needed to be, and he probably had his worst
Speaker 1: performance of his rookie season. And that's not a knock
Speaker 1: on Donald. I expected ups and downs, but you were
Speaker 1: seeing him hit a little roadblock in the season. He
Speaker 1: had struggled the previous three games. I would mention though,
Speaker 1: that McCown, the consummate pro, the consummate vet who knows
Speaker 1: this offense inside it out, has come on the field
Speaker 1: the last three games and the Jets offense hasn't really
Speaker 1: changed too much. That maybe the turnovers haven't been as
Speaker 1: high because I think Donald had seven interceptions in the
Speaker 1: three games prior. He had four in his last meeting
Speaker 1: in week now. Yeah, yeah, against Miami, but he also
Speaker 1: had I think it was three against Minnesota. You can
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. He didn't have any against
Speaker 1: the Bear. I thought it was. Yeah, it could have
Speaker 1: been definitely too. So here here's my deal, though, is
Speaker 1: that the Jets offensive struggles that can't not be blamed
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald alone because we saw Josh McCown come
Speaker 1: out there the last couple of weeks and again, not
Speaker 1: a knock and McCown. It's eleven guys as we're seeing
Speaker 1: because the Jets easily could have beat the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Not easily, we're in position to beat the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get anything going inside the red zone.
Speaker 1: Zero three inside the red zone, Jason Meyer is a
Speaker 1: great game, but you gotta finish inside the twenty. The
Speaker 1: one encouraging sign offensively I thought was Jets rushed the
Speaker 1: ball for what one fifty six and four point seven
Speaker 1: yards to carry Jonathan Harrison playing center again, Dacota Dozer
Speaker 1: stepped up at left guard. I like that. Uh, maybe
Speaker 1: the Jets can continue that path as far as you know,
Speaker 1: they having that balance, they got it going on the ground.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know Donald, long, long story short, Donald
Speaker 1: has unable to now take a step back, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: because he was struggling at the point watch at the
Speaker 1: point he went down watch Josh McCown um. Also, you know,
Speaker 1: you get a different perspective from being on the sideline
Speaker 1: because you mentioned Allen. I think Allen has played better
Speaker 1: since he was hurt and the Bill signed Derrick Anderson.
Speaker 1: I think probably helped him a little bit. I don't
Speaker 1: want to make any excuses for this Jets offense, but
Speaker 1: I will say that if Sam Donald starts Sunday against
Speaker 1: the Bills, I think this will be the healthiest offense
Speaker 1: offensive unit that he's played within a while. When you
Speaker 1: consider the bye week playing in and Quincy Noon were
Speaker 1: getting fully healthy. Quincy, Robbie, and Jermaine Curse all played
Speaker 1: in Week nine against the Dolphins. But remember Robbie then
Speaker 1: missed the following week against the Hills, so I don't
Speaker 1: think he was fully healthy. And then you consider that
Speaker 1: Isaiah Roll I think had his best game in a
Speaker 1: long time against Tennessee Titans. Then you factor an Eli McGuire,
Speaker 1: You're factoring all these guys. It makes me a little
Speaker 1: excited because I think Donald will have the fullest healthy
Speaker 1: arsenal at his disposing in a long time. If he
Speaker 1: gets the starts on that, the Bills are really going
Speaker 1: to challenge you. That's a good defensive football team. Their
Speaker 1: offense is not player playoff caliber, their defense certainly is
Speaker 1: their number one team in terms of past defense in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. The Jets have a great safety,
Speaker 1: a budding star in Jamal Adams. This safety pair that
Speaker 1: the Bills have Mica High Jordan player very good. Um,
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw out his own at you. And I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people point that Donald struggled against
Speaker 1: the zone as rookie season. Well, maybe that's what the
Speaker 1: numbers indicate. I also watched Donald had the best game
Speaker 1: of his NFL career against the Indianapolis Colts zone defense,
Speaker 1: when he completed eight percent of his passes. That was
Speaker 1: his best game when the team was storing. All his
Speaker 1: zone coverage is at him. But this Buffalo defense, it's nasty.
Speaker 1: They don't give up a lot of yards greens. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be another forty one to ten
Speaker 1: a fair another one side of affair. I think it
Speaker 1: will be a close game in Buffalo. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: think that the last time these two teams met again,
Speaker 1: all players say this was the only time in the
Speaker 1: season that the Jets really got smacked and it was unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It rained, it poured, Everything went the wrong way for
Speaker 1: the Jets that day. And I don't think that will
Speaker 1: be the case in Buffalo this week. But we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Bills more in a bit, But I think
Speaker 1: it's time to hear from the man in the seven
Speaker 1: one six Chris Brown of Buffalo Bills dot Com. Alright, Chris,
Speaker 1: we gotta start with Josh Allen and what he did
Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. How big of a step forward
Speaker 1: was that last week for the Wyomi product who the
Speaker 1: Bills hope is the franchise passer. Yeah, I mean there's
Speaker 1: still some some work to be done by him because
Speaker 1: he still doesn't always trust what he's seeing from coverage.
Speaker 1: You know, teams are still throwing curveballs at him. But
Speaker 1: he is a dynamic, unique physical talent um who can
Speaker 1: do with his feet as well as with his legs.
Speaker 1: The encouraging thing about when he does take off and
Speaker 1: run is he has become more judicious and how he's
Speaker 1: finishing his runs now, he's not taking hits fighting for
Speaker 1: extra yard. It he's getting out of bounds or he's sliding.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the game last week against Miami
Speaker 1: is the Dolphins did not have a linebacker who was
Speaker 1: fast enough to spy him. Uh. They put Kiko Alonso
Speaker 1: on him as a spy, and he was not enough
Speaker 1: to keep up with him so that nobody could run
Speaker 1: with him. Because he is so deceptively fast for a
Speaker 1: big guy at six ft five, So he was just
Speaker 1: he could run whenever he wanted to. He could have
Speaker 1: run for over two hundred yards in that game if
Speaker 1: he wanted to. He finished with one thirty five on
Speaker 1: just nine carries. I mean he had three carries for
Speaker 1: twenty five yards or more. When he gets through the
Speaker 1: second level and all the TVs have their back turn. Now,
Speaker 1: you know they want him to progress as a pastor naturally,
Speaker 1: and I think he's taking incremental steps there. He's starting
Speaker 1: to develop a nice rapport with Za Jones, the second receiver,
Speaker 1: second year receiver who works out of the slot. Um
Speaker 1: still not connecting as much as he wants to on
Speaker 1: those deep shots, but you know they're coming here and there,
Speaker 1: and I really just think it's a matter of time
Speaker 1: for him. What do you think about this week's matchup?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna spend most of our time here today
Speaker 1: Brownie talking about the quarterbacks. But in terms of Lan
Speaker 1: when he faces the Jets defense, you mentioned a lon
Speaker 1: So in Miami attempting to spy with him. Do you
Speaker 1: think the Jets might opt for a similar plan but
Speaker 1: with a faster guy. In terms of Darren Lee, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets have a better answer quite Frankly,
Speaker 1: I remember Darrenly, I think you're in a four or
Speaker 1: four or three at the combine. Uh, that's more the
Speaker 1: type of linebacker you need to shadow him, uh and
Speaker 1: at least corral him or cut him off. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if Keiko Alonso did not take the perfect angle,
Speaker 1: he was flat out screwed. Um. With Josh coming at
Speaker 1: him and he was making him look silly out there
Speaker 1: trying to run him down, he just couldn't do it. Uh.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of plays late in the game
Speaker 1: where they actually had Manka Fitzpatrick spying him because because
Speaker 1: Kiko couldn't keep up with him and Manka, you know,
Speaker 1: while he is a big safety, he's not big in
Speaker 1: comparison to Alan. So you really better have a linebacker
Speaker 1: who can run, who's big enough to bring him down.
Speaker 1: I mean, just two weeks ago against Jacksonville, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: on a quarterback draw from the fourteen yard line, stiffed
Speaker 1: armed defensive and Yannick in Gokway knocked him to the
Speaker 1: ground and then ran over a linebacker to dive into
Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown on a QB draw play. Um,
Speaker 1: he's just such a big human being. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's side, that's how big you um. And I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize that until they
Speaker 1: see him in person and then they're like, holy cow,
Speaker 1: he's a giant and oh, by the way, he can run. Um,
Speaker 1: you know. But again, I think everybody wants to see
Speaker 1: him develop more as a passer, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think he's finally in the handle on this offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's missed. He missed three games because of the elbow injury,
Speaker 1: you know, much like Sam Donald's been sidelined. But I
Speaker 1: think he really benefited from that watching a veteran like
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson and even Matt Barkley run walked through in practice,
Speaker 1: run first team in practice. How they watch and digest
Speaker 1: film and you know, get ready for the upcoming opponent.
Speaker 1: I think seeing a veteran doing it really helped him
Speaker 1: in the time that he was sidelined, and so when
Speaker 1: he did get back into the lineup, I think he
Speaker 1: was that much more prepared because he had a better
Speaker 1: means of procedure in getting ready for games. How's he
Speaker 1: developing in terms of being that passer inside the pocket?
Speaker 1: Like you said, you think it's a matter of time
Speaker 1: before he hits on some of these deep ones. But
Speaker 1: the knock on Allen coming out of Wyoming, as we
Speaker 1: know very well, was he wasn't an accurate thrower of
Speaker 1: the football. There are a lot of different takes on
Speaker 1: both sides of that. You know that more than anybody.
Speaker 1: What have you thought about him, not just the arm strength,
Speaker 1: but making those throws that you have to each Sunday
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yeah, I mean he's certainly
Speaker 1: got the armed talent to do it. But yes, accuracy
Speaker 1: and ball location is a big deal. I think he's
Speaker 1: improved with his ball location. He's worked for a countless
Speaker 1: number of hours with quarterbacks coach David Culley on his base.
Speaker 1: I think they tied his accuracy issues too, inconsistency with
Speaker 1: his feet in terms of base and balance, and so
Speaker 1: they've worked a lot on his feet, uh, to make
Speaker 1: sure he's got his feet underneath him when he delivers
Speaker 1: the football. Obviously, they are going to be improvisational plays
Speaker 1: where there is not time to do that, um, But
Speaker 1: in most cases when he can set up in the
Speaker 1: pocket or even step up in the pocket, they are
Speaker 1: drilling him on a firm base. So his accuracy with
Speaker 1: his arm follows, and we've seen improvements in that area. Again,
Speaker 1: still not where they wanted to be, but it's certainly
Speaker 1: better than it looked his last year of wyoming in college. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go back to April, and I know you don't
Speaker 1: have the draft grades, but do you think the Bills
Speaker 1: had interest in Sam Donald as well? Obviously they had
Speaker 1: to move up just to get to number seven, And
Speaker 1: to Josh Ellen, it's hard to really entertain who they
Speaker 1: like the most. They had all of those guys in
Speaker 1: for personal visits. Sean McDermott is huge on having guys
Speaker 1: that he says has the Bills d n A. And
Speaker 1: what he means by that is guys who are team first,
Speaker 1: grinder type guys that you don't have to wonder what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get from them on week one or Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: no matter what your one lost record is, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the same work ethic from those guys every single day.
Speaker 1: Those are the people he wants in the building. And
Speaker 1: it's why a guy like Kelvin Benjamin was just released
Speaker 1: by the team this afternoon, a guy whose effort was
Speaker 1: questioned from time to time by fans and by teammates,
Speaker 1: wasn't pulling the rope with everybody else in the same way. Uh,
Speaker 1: They gave him every opportunity to change his tune. It
Speaker 1: didn't happen, and you know he's released this week, you know,
Speaker 1: and God off this roster because younger receivers are stepping up.
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of people he wants on his roster.
Speaker 1: Work ethic guys, and if you're not that guy, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be here. Josh Allen passed that test, and
Speaker 1: I believe I don't know this for sure, but I
Speaker 1: believe Sam Donald got check marks in those boxes as well.
Speaker 1: You know, some of the other guys not sure. I
Speaker 1: know Josh Rosen had some personality questions coming out. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he checked all those boxes. Uh So,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have been on their
Speaker 1: list per se, but I believe Donald was. If Donald
Speaker 1: indeed gets the ball the Sunday afternoon, as we're all
Speaker 1: anticipating VI his tod Bowl. So last week he could
Speaker 1: have played, but he just wanted to get him more reps.
Speaker 1: And by Sunday it will be more than a month
Speaker 1: since we've seen Donald in action. What kind of challenges
Speaker 1: will this Bill's defense present him? Because Chris, I know
Speaker 1: the Bills are just four and eight, but that defense
Speaker 1: is playing in at a playoff caliber I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean number two in the league overall, and then
Speaker 1: number one against the past. I mean, do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about a formidable challenge for the Jets passing game,
Speaker 1: it's the Bills pass defense. I mean, the last four
Speaker 1: opponents in a row have not put together a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty net passing yards against the Bills. And it's
Speaker 1: not because they've been running all over them. Uh you know, Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: You could say, Okay, they're a running team, They're not
Speaker 1: gonna throw it a lot anyway. You could understand why
Speaker 1: they might not get to a hundred and fifty net
Speaker 1: passing yards. But you know last week against the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: yes and Nicol and dime passing attack, but they had
Speaker 1: a hundred fifteen net passing yards. They've just really been
Speaker 1: locking it down on the back end, and their pass
Speaker 1: rush is improved from what it was last year. Leslie
Speaker 1: Fraser has done a good job of scheming new wrinkles
Speaker 1: in each and every week with the pass rush. They
Speaker 1: have a new package this year with their free agent
Speaker 1: signing Raphael Bush, who is a backup safety, but he's
Speaker 1: been so good at such a great training camp that
Speaker 1: they wanted to get him on the field. So they
Speaker 1: have this three safety package, which is kind of gut
Speaker 1: Bush is a hybrid linebacker and he was blitzing off
Speaker 1: the ends last week in a new wrinkle that really
Speaker 1: had the Dolphins crossed up. Uh. So, you know, with
Speaker 1: all of that role together, you know, and two safeties
Speaker 1: who can disguise coverage with the best of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick got a conference call last year, could not
Speaker 1: say enough about Micah Hyde and Jordan poy Are saying
Speaker 1: what they do before the snap most teams cannot do.
Speaker 1: They literally wait until the absolute last second before they
Speaker 1: get it. He says. Sometimes you snap the ball, they're
Speaker 1: out of position. Um, but somehow they get to their
Speaker 1: spots and oh, it's this look that you weren't expecting
Speaker 1: because they hide it for they hold their cards to
Speaker 1: the vest for so long that they make it even
Speaker 1: difficult sometimes for Tom Brady to discern what's going on.
Speaker 1: So for a rookie like Sam Donald, you know, especially
Speaker 1: first game back, it's going to be a challenge. Rightfully
Speaker 1: saw them top narrative this weekend. Will be the first
Speaker 1: time in their careers where it appears Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: Sam Donald will go toe to toe. But how about
Speaker 1: the L s U products taken in the first round
Speaker 1: last year by these respective teams. Jamal Adams goes number
Speaker 1: six overall and then the Bills traded back and they
Speaker 1: pick up a guy trade Davis White at both L
Speaker 1: s U products. What do you think about both of
Speaker 1: those guys, because you've seen Adams a number of times
Speaker 1: so far early in his career as well. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they're cornerstone defensive players for their respective clubs.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. I think
Speaker 1: Adams is more of a true leader type, at least
Speaker 1: from what I've heard and seen from him, you know,
Speaker 1: so not only a dynamic player at the safety spot,
Speaker 1: and I know he's probably I know, I believe he's
Speaker 1: the number one blitzer also, I mean he is their
Speaker 1: blitz back its essentially. And White, you know, is a dynamic,
Speaker 1: lockdown corner. Not quite the vocal leader um that maybe
Speaker 1: Adams is, but you know that nose to the grindstone,
Speaker 1: loves the work every day, genuinely loves playing and wants
Speaker 1: to be the best. I mean, Trudeavias White has a
Speaker 1: picture of a Hall of Fame gold jacket above his locker,
Speaker 1: just to kind of remind himself every day of where
Speaker 1: he wants to end up when his career is over.
Speaker 1: I know Adams kind of grinds the same way. There
Speaker 1: are two players that look like they're cut from the
Speaker 1: same cloth, and I think everybody's talking about Donald and
Speaker 1: Allen facing each other for the next ten years, hopefully
Speaker 1: if all goes well for both clubs. I think those
Speaker 1: two guys are ten year players on these teams as well. Well. Chris,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to coming back home. And thanks so
Speaker 1: much for coming on the podcast this week. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got some snow ready for you now. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it'll be here on the weekend, but maybe
Speaker 1: i'll throw a shovel in your hand. Thanks buddy. All Right,
Speaker 1: that was Chris Brown. Many thanks to Chris, and Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because we get so wrapped up
Speaker 1: in Alan and Donald and Alan and Donald, we forget
Speaker 1: that there's actually two great friends on the opposite sides
Speaker 1: of the ball here in Jamal Adams and Tradevious White
Speaker 1: seen first round picked for the Jets and Bills, respectively,
Speaker 1: And both of those guys we know about Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: this year one of the stars for the Jets. Well,
Speaker 1: Trenevis White equally one of the stars for that Bill's defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brownie said, they just go about their business different ways.
Speaker 1: You know, Jamal's the vocal He's becoming the vocal leader
Speaker 1: inside that locker room where tree. Davious White is a
Speaker 1: shutdown corner. I like that. You know, he's got uh
Speaker 1: photos of Hall of Fame jacket inside his locker and
Speaker 1: things like and things like that. So he was more
Speaker 1: of low key, not a big talker. But he's a
Speaker 1: very good player. And I remember asking Tomorrow after he
Speaker 1: got drafted about Tradevius White, and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: that's my dog and that's my guy, and uh, those
Speaker 1: two guys are a very good defensive players. And I
Speaker 1: think they both should be Pro Bowl bound this year
Speaker 1: because Davious White he's a lockdown guy. He's he's just
Speaker 1: the top five corner in the league. Right now, What
Speaker 1: a what a college secondary that was. I know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like you're thinking about it like it's like that
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group l s U and a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago with Backham and Landry, right, It's crazy
Speaker 1: when you think about all the talent that L. S
Speaker 1: US produced over the year, and of course Morris Clayborne
Speaker 1: was a part of that back in the day, Patrick
Speaker 1: Peterson back in the day. I mean, the list goes
Speaker 1: on and on, Tyron Matthew back in the day, so
Speaker 1: that the L. S U bloodline runs deep in the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Yeah, I think that's just
Speaker 1: a storyline that I'm glad you brought it up because
Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about it with Brownie. Is that rightfully?
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the quarterbacks a lot this week,
Speaker 1: but Adams and White are going to be fixed on
Speaker 1: both of these teams, on these defenses for a long time.
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about Josh
Speaker 1: Allen because we know about the rocket arms, the ad
Speaker 1: R bombs, that he can throw, the quick release that
Speaker 1: we've seen in the multiple press box TVs. But I
Speaker 1: don't think what people realize, and Chris Brown mentioned this
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is huge and he's Cam Newton size,
Speaker 1: which means that he's an athletic freak and he'll put
Speaker 1: you in the ground if you're in his way. The
Speaker 1: comparison you've heard a lot for Josh you know, has
Speaker 1: been Ben Roethlisberger, and Chris has said this a lot
Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. He said, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: the true comparison is Cam Newton, because he's so big,
Speaker 1: he's so agile, he's fast, he's literally fast, and he
Speaker 1: had Kikollon so out of these shoes a couple of
Speaker 1: times last week because the Dolphins tried to spy him. Now,
Speaker 1: I asked Bart Scott, which you can watch Jets flight
Speaker 1: playing eleven thirty am CBS Sunday morning, about how do
Speaker 1: you defend this guy you spy him? He said, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta fource some left. It's interesting. One of the
Speaker 1: plays we went over, which you have, Penny, you saw
Speaker 1: Allen being rolled left, thrown across his body with a
Speaker 1: strike unbelievable accuracy twenty three yards down the field when
Speaker 1: he was going left. So um. The other thing is
Speaker 1: do you spire him? The Jets might have that guy
Speaker 1: and Darren Lee, And that's what Chris Brown said, Hey,
Speaker 1: listen Lee. As far as being athletic, keego Lions will
Speaker 1: run and hit linebacker and he's a good player. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he is quite the speed is lee.
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in this ball game and the elements too,
Speaker 1: because if it is though, will be the first time
Speaker 1: probably Donald's ever played in a game. I think he
Speaker 1: played in the snow. I think he talked about Utah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that he's tame but not positive. But it
Speaker 1: was definitely a cold. And the other thing that Donald
Speaker 1: would be able to gain experience with, it's just playing
Speaker 1: in one of the rowdiest environments. And I know both
Speaker 1: these teams are going to playoffs, and both these teams
Speaker 1: are gonna likely be top ten picks, but uh, this
Speaker 1: environment will be quite rowdy, and this is a good
Speaker 1: defense and be a great challenge for him and um
Speaker 1: I anticipate that whole play a lot better than the
Speaker 1: last time we saw him. But the Justice gotta figure
Speaker 1: it out offensively right now. It's it's tough going right now.
Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, and it's just not
Speaker 1: just stats. I think it was so frustrating for them
Speaker 1: to a man that just couldn't finish, and he couldn't
Speaker 1: finish in the red zone. But there's the play late
Speaker 1: where you try to run the ball to Cannon. One
Speaker 1: first down probably clinches that game. Without a doubt, and
Speaker 1: and that locker room was you know, there were few men,
Speaker 1: as top Bowls would say, and this is big time adversity, man,
Speaker 1: because you're talking about professionals six game losing streak. They
Speaker 1: played hard in Tennessee. Again here we go. No moral victories,
Speaker 1: no participation trophies or anything like that, but they felt
Speaker 1: like they let one get away, and it's been so long.
Speaker 1: I just think that's a lot of pent up anger
Speaker 1: right now. I agree. I think that being the locker
Speaker 1: room after the game, it was almost fumid in a
Speaker 1: disbelief kind of way. I talked to Jonathan Harrison after
Speaker 1: the game, and he didn't really have answers for anything.
Speaker 1: He couldn't fully digest. I don't think norc a lot
Speaker 1: of the players fully digest what had just happened, because
Speaker 1: the Jets had the lead until there were forty two
Speaker 1: seconds left in the game. Yeah, fifty eight minutes, and
Speaker 1: then Todd Bowl said that the one's gonna stick with
Speaker 1: him for the rest of his life. But how quickly
Speaker 1: can you turn the page? Because again I think there's
Speaker 1: a double whammy because it's really testing your professional pride.
Speaker 1: Because Number one Buffalo came in your house and give
Speaker 1: you a beat down. They really did it, pushed you
Speaker 1: around in the trenches. Secondly, is Tennessee your latest game?
Speaker 1: You had one within your grasp and you couldn't finish.
Speaker 1: So how are you gonna respond? I guess we'll find
Speaker 1: out Sunday, Yes we will. Do you have any anything
Speaker 1: else here? Before we close up, Brownie said, bring your
Speaker 1: shovels Okay, that's fair, spoken like a true guy from
Speaker 1: the seven six. We will bring the shovel to Buffalo again,
Speaker 1: Jets Bill Sunday, one pm. Perhaps we shall see the
Speaker 1: first meeting of Josh Allen and Sam Donald, two best
Speaker 1: friends that anyone could have. That's all we have here
Speaker 1: on the Official Jets Podcast. Thanks for tuning in, and
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