1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The game is over New York World. You play to 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: win the game. He's got a lost Jet lockdown. You're 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: listening to the Official New York Jets podcast, a Jets 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: three sixty production. What's up, everybody? Thanks for downloading the 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Official Jets podcast. He A, it's a little chilly up 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: here in the Northeast. When we went to Nashville, it 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: was a beautiful day. It was about seventy and Sonny 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: announced chili. It's winter greens. I know it. It's winter greens. 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: And as fans will soon find out, during my interview 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown and Buffalo Bills dot Com, he told 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: me that there is a little bit of white stuff 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: for waiting us in then six. Yeah, So basically, e 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: A spoke to Chris Brown of Buffalo Bills dot Com 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see what he had to say. What did 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Chris have to say? Well, what did you guys hit on? 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I figured that you guys on the quarterback? I talked 17 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot about the quarterbacks. Actually, um, you know, typically 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: we're not promoting a ton of content outside the Jets 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: because we have so many miles to feed here. But 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Chris actually asked me a series of questions about Sam Donald, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: and then a few questions about Josh Allen because he 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: is writing a story this week where he's going to 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: talk about both these guys potentially facing off for the 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: first time in their NFL careers. As we tape right now, 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: it's Wednesday morning. Donald was limited at practice, didn't play 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: last week. Let's see if they can ramp them up 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: a little bit today. UH, have him shake off some 28 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: of that rust and maybe I'll be ready to go. 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: But that's how it started this week with me and 30 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Brownie and I said, hey, can you come on the podcast. 31 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Most of my questions were focused on the freak who 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: is Josh Allen, and also a little bit about a 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: potential matchup of Donald going against a very good Buffalo 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Bills defense. Back in April, when Sam Donald was drafted 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: third overall and Josh Allen was drafted seventh overall, everyone 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: thought that this was going to be the matchup of 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the a f C East for the years to come, 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the post Brady era, and they didn't play against each 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: other in Week ten. None of those guys played in 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: Week ten. Josh Allen was still dealing with an elbow injury. 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley played in his place, Josh McCown. His first 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: start of the season came against the Buffalo Bills because 43 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald had strained his right foot the week before 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: in Week nine. So if these two guys play Sunday 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: in Buffalo in the seven one six, the home of 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the A, what are you expecting out of these two guys? 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: And on from a macro level is this I have 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: to imagine Jets and Bills fans are excited about this 49 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: potential matchup for the years to come. Well, listen, I 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: think over the last few weeks, I think if you're 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: a Jets fan, uh, you want your team to win. 52 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people the other end 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: of the spectrum are thinking about the draft and I 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: get that too. Listen, we we can't completely ignore that, 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: especially if you are a fan, because you definitely want 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: the top overall pick, because that means you would have 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: the choice of the most talented guys in the country. 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: But that's not the way you think inside an organization. 59 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: But you want to see Sam Donald play. He hasn't 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: played more than a month, and that's tough if you're 61 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: a fan. Just like the Bills went through something similar 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: where you mentioned Alan strained elbow, so he was out 63 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: of the lineup for three or four weeks. You know, 64 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: you want both these guys on the field because these 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: guys are your respective futures. I mean, I think they're 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: both big time talents. I told you this before the draft, 67 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: and I went back and forth on Allen for a while. 68 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: But by the time we spoke to a lot of people. Yeah, 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: if I if my memory serves me correctly, once you 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: came back from the owners meetings, you are in. Yeah. 71 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: I like, these were my top two in the two 72 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen draft class, and nothing that has been 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: done this season has changed my mind. I know Sam 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Donald's leading the NFL and interceptions and he hasn't played 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: more than a month. I know Josh Allen his accuracy um. 76 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: He continues to come up because people are talking about 77 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: he's completing what fifty of his passes and things like that, 78 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: and he's got some playground um to his game. But 79 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: I like both of these kids, and I think they're 80 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: gonna be very good players. I'm very interested to see 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: how Sam Donald comes back from his time away from 82 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: the starting spot, because you talked about Josh Allen, and 83 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: you see what he did since coming back from his injury, 84 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: and regardless of the result of the games, I feel 85 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen has been making more plays and last 86 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: week you look at it, he ran for a hundred 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: thirty five yards on nine carries. I'm just curious to 88 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: see how much the game slows down for Sam Donald 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: after coming back from injury, after watching Josh mccount operate 90 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: the offense, not only operate the offense and on game day, 91 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: but in practice and how he goes about a game 92 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: week as the starting quarterback for the team. So I'm 93 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: very excited to see Donald play because we've talked about 94 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: it numerous times that any reps a rookie gets are 95 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: important reps because you start to develop quicker, you start 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: to learn a little faster, and maybe maybe you never know, 97 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: this time away will really expedite Donald's learning curve greens. 98 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback. I hope you know that by now, 99 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: but you could watching the last time Donald's out there 100 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: in the field Miami, his feet and his eyes were off. 101 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: If you just watched the film, his feet weren't where 102 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: they needed to be, and he probably had his worst 103 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: performance of his rookie season. And that's not a knock 104 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: on Donald. I expected ups and downs, but you were 105 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: seeing him hit a little roadblock in the season. He 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: had struggled the previous three games. I would mention though, 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: that McCown, the consummate pro, the consummate vet who knows 108 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: this offense inside it out, has come on the field 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: the last three games and the Jets offense hasn't really 110 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: changed too much. That maybe the turnovers haven't been as 111 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: high because I think Donald had seven interceptions in the 112 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: three games prior. He had four in his last meeting 113 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: in week now. Yeah, yeah, against Miami, but he also 114 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: had I think it was three against Minnesota. You can 115 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. He didn't have any against 116 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: the Bear. I thought it was. Yeah, it could have 117 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: been definitely too. So here here's my deal, though, is 118 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that the Jets offensive struggles that can't not be blamed 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: on Sam Donald alone because we saw Josh McCown come 120 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: out there the last couple of weeks and again, not 121 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: a knock and McCown. It's eleven guys as we're seeing 122 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: because the Jets easily could have beat the Tennessee Titans. 123 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Not easily, we're in position to beat the Tennessee Titans, 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: and I couldn't get anything going inside the red zone. 125 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Zero three inside the red zone, Jason Meyer is a 126 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: great game, but you gotta finish inside the twenty. The 127 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: one encouraging sign offensively I thought was Jets rushed the 128 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: ball for what one fifty six and four point seven 129 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: yards to carry Jonathan Harrison playing center again, Dacota Dozer 130 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: stepped up at left guard. I like that. Uh, maybe 131 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the Jets can continue that path as far as you know, 132 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: they having that balance, they got it going on the ground. 133 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: But uh, you know Donald, long, long story short, Donald 134 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: has unable to now take a step back, like you mentioned, 135 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: because he was struggling at the point watch at the 136 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: point he went down watch Josh McCown um. Also, you know, 137 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: you get a different perspective from being on the sideline 138 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: because you mentioned Allen. I think Allen has played better 139 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: since he was hurt and the Bill signed Derrick Anderson. 140 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I think probably helped him a little bit. I don't 141 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: want to make any excuses for this Jets offense, but 142 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: I will say that if Sam Donald starts Sunday against 143 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the Bills, I think this will be the healthiest offense 144 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: offensive unit that he's played within a while. When you 145 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: consider the bye week playing in and Quincy Noon were 146 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: getting fully healthy. Quincy, Robbie, and Jermaine Curse all played 147 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: in Week nine against the Dolphins. But remember Robbie then 148 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: missed the following week against the Hills, so I don't 149 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: think he was fully healthy. And then you consider that 150 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Roll I think had his best game in a 151 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: long time against Tennessee Titans. Then you factor an Eli McGuire, 152 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: You're factoring all these guys. It makes me a little 153 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: excited because I think Donald will have the fullest healthy 154 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: arsenal at his disposing in a long time. If he 155 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: gets the starts on that, the Bills are really going 156 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: to challenge you. That's a good defensive football team. Their 157 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: offense is not player playoff caliber, their defense certainly is 158 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: their number one team in terms of past defense in 159 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League. The Jets have a great safety, 160 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: a budding star in Jamal Adams. This safety pair that 161 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: the Bills have Mica High Jordan player very good. Um, 162 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna throw out his own at you. And I 163 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: know a lot of people point that Donald struggled against 164 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: the zone as rookie season. Well, maybe that's what the 165 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: numbers indicate. I also watched Donald had the best game 166 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: of his NFL career against the Indianapolis Colts zone defense, 167 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: when he completed eight percent of his passes. That was 168 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: his best game when the team was storing. All his 169 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: zone coverage is at him. But this Buffalo defense, it's nasty. 170 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: They don't give up a lot of yards greens. I 171 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be another forty one to ten 172 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: a fair another one side of affair. I think it 173 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: will be a close game in Buffalo. Yeah, I just 174 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: think that the last time these two teams met again, 175 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: all players say this was the only time in the 176 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: season that the Jets really got smacked and it was unfortunate. 177 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: It rained, it poured, Everything went the wrong way for 178 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the Jets that day. And I don't think that will 179 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: be the case in Buffalo this week. But we'll talk 180 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: about the Bills more in a bit, But I think 181 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: it's time to hear from the man in the seven 182 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: one six Chris Brown of Buffalo Bills dot Com. Alright, Chris, 183 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: we gotta start with Josh Allen and what he did 184 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. How big of a step forward 185 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: was that last week for the Wyomi product who the 186 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: Bills hope is the franchise passer. Yeah, I mean there's 187 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: still some some work to be done by him because 188 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: he still doesn't always trust what he's seeing from coverage. 189 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, teams are still throwing curveballs at him. But 190 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: he is a dynamic, unique physical talent um who can 191 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: do with his feet as well as with his legs. 192 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: The encouraging thing about when he does take off and 193 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: run is he has become more judicious and how he's 194 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: finishing his runs now, he's not taking hits fighting for 195 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: extra yard. It he's getting out of bounds or he's sliding. 196 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the game last week against Miami 197 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: is the Dolphins did not have a linebacker who was 198 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: fast enough to spy him. Uh. They put Kiko Alonso 199 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: on him as a spy, and he was not enough 200 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: to keep up with him so that nobody could run 201 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: with him. Because he is so deceptively fast for a 202 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: big guy at six ft five, So he was just 203 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: he could run whenever he wanted to. He could have 204 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: run for over two hundred yards in that game if 205 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to. He finished with one thirty five on 206 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: just nine carries. I mean he had three carries for 207 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty five yards or more. When he gets through the 208 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: second level and all the TVs have their back turn. Now, 209 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: you know they want him to progress as a pastor naturally, 210 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's taking incremental steps there. He's starting 211 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: to develop a nice rapport with Za Jones, the second receiver, 212 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 1: second year receiver who works out of the slot. Um 213 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: still not connecting as much as he wants to on 214 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: those deep shots, but you know they're coming here and there, 215 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: and I really just think it's a matter of time 216 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: for him. What do you think about this week's matchup? 217 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna spend most of our time here today 218 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: Brownie talking about the quarterbacks. But in terms of Lan 219 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: when he faces the Jets defense, you mentioned a lon 220 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: So in Miami attempting to spy with him. Do you 221 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: think the Jets might opt for a similar plan but 222 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: with a faster guy. In terms of Darren Lee, yeah, 223 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: I think the Jets have a better answer quite Frankly, 224 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: I remember Darrenly, I think you're in a four or 225 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: four or three at the combine. Uh, that's more the 226 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: type of linebacker you need to shadow him, uh and 227 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: at least corral him or cut him off. I mean, 228 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: if if Keiko Alonso did not take the perfect angle, 229 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: he was flat out screwed. Um. With Josh coming at 230 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: him and he was making him look silly out there 231 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: trying to run him down, he just couldn't do it. Uh. 232 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: There were a couple of plays late in the game 233 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: where they actually had Manka Fitzpatrick spying him because because 234 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: Kiko couldn't keep up with him and Manka, you know, 235 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: while he is a big safety, he's not big in 236 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: comparison to Alan. So you really better have a linebacker 237 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: who can run, who's big enough to bring him down. 238 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: I mean, just two weeks ago against Jacksonville, Josh Allen 239 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: on a quarterback draw from the fourteen yard line, stiffed 240 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: armed defensive and Yannick in Gokway knocked him to the 241 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: ground and then ran over a linebacker to dive into 242 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown on a QB draw play. Um, 243 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: he's just such a big human being. I mean, he's 244 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's side, that's how big you um. And I 245 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize that until they 246 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: see him in person and then they're like, holy cow, 247 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: he's a giant and oh, by the way, he can run. Um, 248 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: you know. But again, I think everybody wants to see 249 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: him develop more as a passer, and you know, I 250 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: think he's finally in the handle on this offense. I mean, 251 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: he's missed. He missed three games because of the elbow injury, 252 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, much like Sam Donald's been sidelined. But I 253 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: think he really benefited from that watching a veteran like 254 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson and even Matt Barkley run walked through in practice, 255 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: run first team in practice. How they watch and digest 256 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: film and you know, get ready for the upcoming opponent. 257 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: I think seeing a veteran doing it really helped him 258 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: in the time that he was sidelined, and so when 259 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: he did get back into the lineup, I think he 260 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: was that much more prepared because he had a better 261 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: means of procedure in getting ready for games. How's he 262 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: developing in terms of being that passer inside the pocket? 263 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: Like you said, you think it's a matter of time 264 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: before he hits on some of these deep ones. But 265 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: the knock on Allen coming out of Wyoming, as we 266 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: know very well, was he wasn't an accurate thrower of 267 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: the football. There are a lot of different takes on 268 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: both sides of that. You know that more than anybody. 269 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: What have you thought about him, not just the arm strength, 270 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: but making those throws that you have to each Sunday 271 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yeah, I mean he's certainly 272 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: got the armed talent to do it. But yes, accuracy 273 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: and ball location is a big deal. I think he's 274 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: improved with his ball location. He's worked for a countless 275 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: number of hours with quarterbacks coach David Culley on his base. 276 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: I think they tied his accuracy issues too, inconsistency with 277 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: his feet in terms of base and balance, and so 278 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: they've worked a lot on his feet, uh, to make 279 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: sure he's got his feet underneath him when he delivers 280 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: the football. Obviously, they are going to be improvisational plays 281 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: where there is not time to do that, um, But 282 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: in most cases when he can set up in the 283 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: pocket or even step up in the pocket, they are 284 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: drilling him on a firm base. So his accuracy with 285 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: his arm follows, and we've seen improvements in that area. Again, 286 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: still not where they wanted to be, but it's certainly 287 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: better than it looked his last year of wyoming in college. Well, 288 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: let's go back to April, and I know you don't 289 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: have the draft grades, but do you think the Bills 290 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: had interest in Sam Donald as well? Obviously they had 291 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: to move up just to get to number seven, And 292 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: to Josh Ellen, it's hard to really entertain who they 293 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: like the most. They had all of those guys in 294 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: for personal visits. Sean McDermott is huge on having guys 295 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: that he says has the Bills d n A. And 296 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: what he means by that is guys who are team first, 297 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: grinder type guys that you don't have to wonder what 298 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get from them on week one or Week seventeen, 299 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: no matter what your one lost record is, you're gonna 300 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: get the same work ethic from those guys every single day. 301 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: Those are the people he wants in the building. And 302 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: it's why a guy like Kelvin Benjamin was just released 303 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: by the team this afternoon, a guy whose effort was 304 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: questioned from time to time by fans and by teammates, 305 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: wasn't pulling the rope with everybody else in the same way. Uh, 306 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: They gave him every opportunity to change his tune. It 307 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: didn't happen, and you know he's released this week, you know, 308 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: and God off this roster because younger receivers are stepping up. 309 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of people he wants on his roster. 310 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Work ethic guys, and if you're not that guy, you're 311 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: not gonna be here. Josh Allen passed that test, and 312 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: I believe I don't know this for sure, but I 313 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: believe Sam Donald got check marks in those boxes as well. 314 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, some of the other guys not sure. I 315 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: know Josh Rosen had some personality questions coming out. I 316 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: don't know if he checked all those boxes. Uh So, 317 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have been on their 318 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: list per se, but I believe Donald was. If Donald 319 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: indeed gets the ball the Sunday afternoon, as we're all 320 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: anticipating VI his tod Bowl. So last week he could 321 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: have played, but he just wanted to get him more reps. 322 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: And by Sunday it will be more than a month 323 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: since we've seen Donald in action. What kind of challenges 324 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: will this Bill's defense present him? Because Chris, I know 325 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the Bills are just four and eight, but that defense 326 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: is playing in at a playoff caliber I would say, yeah, 327 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean number two in the league overall, and then 328 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: number one against the past. I mean, do you want 329 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: to talk about a formidable challenge for the Jets passing game, 330 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: it's the Bills pass defense. I mean, the last four 331 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: opponents in a row have not put together a hundred 332 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: and fifty net passing yards against the Bills. And it's 333 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: not because they've been running all over them. Uh you know, Jacksonville. 334 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: You could say, Okay, they're a running team, They're not 335 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna throw it a lot anyway. You could understand why 336 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: they might not get to a hundred and fifty net 337 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: passing yards. But you know last week against the Dolphins, 338 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: yes and Nicol and dime passing attack, but they had 339 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: a hundred fifteen net passing yards. They've just really been 340 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: locking it down on the back end, and their pass 341 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: rush is improved from what it was last year. Leslie 342 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Fraser has done a good job of scheming new wrinkles 343 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: in each and every week with the pass rush. They 344 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: have a new package this year with their free agent 345 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: signing Raphael Bush, who is a backup safety, but he's 346 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: been so good at such a great training camp that 347 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to get him on the field. So they 348 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: have this three safety package, which is kind of gut 349 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: Bush is a hybrid linebacker and he was blitzing off 350 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: the ends last week in a new wrinkle that really 351 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: had the Dolphins crossed up. Uh. So, you know, with 352 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: all of that role together, you know, and two safeties 353 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: who can disguise coverage with the best of them. I mean, 354 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick got a conference call last year, could not 355 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: say enough about Micah Hyde and Jordan poy Are saying 356 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: what they do before the snap most teams cannot do. 357 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: They literally wait until the absolute last second before they 358 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: get it. He says. Sometimes you snap the ball, they're 359 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: out of position. Um, but somehow they get to their 360 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: spots and oh, it's this look that you weren't expecting 361 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: because they hide it for they hold their cards to 362 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: the vest for so long that they make it even 363 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: difficult sometimes for Tom Brady to discern what's going on. 364 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: So for a rookie like Sam Donald, you know, especially 365 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: first game back, it's going to be a challenge. Rightfully 366 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: saw them top narrative this weekend. Will be the first 367 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: time in their careers where it appears Josh Allen and 368 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald will go toe to toe. But how about 369 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: the L s U products taken in the first round 370 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: last year by these respective teams. Jamal Adams goes number 371 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: six overall and then the Bills traded back and they 372 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: pick up a guy trade Davis White at both L 373 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: s U products. What do you think about both of 374 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: those guys, because you've seen Adams a number of times 375 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: so far early in his career as well. Yeah, I mean, 376 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: I think they're cornerstone defensive players for their respective clubs. 377 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. I think 378 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Adams is more of a true leader type, at least 379 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: from what I've heard and seen from him, you know, 380 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: so not only a dynamic player at the safety spot, 381 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: and I know he's probably I know, I believe he's 382 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the number one blitzer also, I mean he is their 383 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: blitz back its essentially. And White, you know, is a dynamic, 384 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: lockdown corner. Not quite the vocal leader um that maybe 385 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Adams is, but you know that nose to the grindstone, 386 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: loves the work every day, genuinely loves playing and wants 387 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: to be the best. I mean, Trudeavias White has a 388 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: picture of a Hall of Fame gold jacket above his locker, 389 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: just to kind of remind himself every day of where 390 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: he wants to end up when his career is over. 391 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I know Adams kind of grinds the same way. There 392 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: are two players that look like they're cut from the 393 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: same cloth, and I think everybody's talking about Donald and 394 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: Allen facing each other for the next ten years, hopefully 395 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: if all goes well for both clubs. I think those 396 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: two guys are ten year players on these teams as well. Well. Chris, 397 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to coming back home. And thanks so 398 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: much for coming on the podcast this week. Yeah, I mean, 399 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: we've got some snow ready for you now. I don't 400 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: know if it'll be here on the weekend, but maybe 401 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: i'll throw a shovel in your hand. Thanks buddy. All Right, 402 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: that was Chris Brown. Many thanks to Chris, and Yeah, 403 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because we get so wrapped up 404 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: in Alan and Donald and Alan and Donald, we forget 405 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: that there's actually two great friends on the opposite sides 406 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: of the ball here in Jamal Adams and Tradevious White 407 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: seen first round picked for the Jets and Bills, respectively, 408 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: And both of those guys we know about Jamal Adams 409 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: this year one of the stars for the Jets. Well, 410 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: Trenevis White equally one of the stars for that Bill's defense. Yeah, 411 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Brownie said, they just go about their business different ways. 412 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, Jamal's the vocal He's becoming the vocal leader 413 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: inside that locker room where tree. Davious White is a 414 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: shutdown corner. I like that. You know, he's got uh 415 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: photos of Hall of Fame jacket inside his locker and 416 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: things like and things like that. So he was more 417 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: of low key, not a big talker. But he's a 418 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: very good player. And I remember asking Tomorrow after he 419 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: got drafted about Tradevius White, and he said, you know, 420 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: that's my dog and that's my guy, and uh, those 421 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: two guys are a very good defensive players. And I 422 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: think they both should be Pro Bowl bound this year 423 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: because Davious White he's a lockdown guy. He's he's just 424 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: the top five corner in the league. Right now, What 425 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: a what a college secondary that was. I know, it's 426 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: almost like you're thinking about it like it's like that 427 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: the wide receiver group l s U and a couple 428 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: of years ago with Backham and Landry, right, It's crazy 429 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: when you think about all the talent that L. S 430 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: US produced over the year, and of course Morris Clayborne 431 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: was a part of that back in the day, Patrick 432 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Peterson back in the day. I mean, the list goes 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: on and on, Tyron Matthew back in the day, so 434 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: that the L. S U bloodline runs deep in the NFL, 435 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Yeah, I think that's just 436 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: a storyline that I'm glad you brought it up because 437 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about it with Brownie. Is that rightfully? 438 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the quarterbacks a lot this week, 439 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: but Adams and White are going to be fixed on 440 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: both of these teams, on these defenses for a long time. 441 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about Josh 442 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Allen because we know about the rocket arms, the ad 443 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: R bombs, that he can throw, the quick release that 444 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: we've seen in the multiple press box TVs. But I 445 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: don't think what people realize, and Chris Brown mentioned this 446 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is huge and he's Cam Newton size, 447 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: which means that he's an athletic freak and he'll put 448 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: you in the ground if you're in his way. The 449 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: comparison you've heard a lot for Josh you know, has 450 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: been Ben Roethlisberger, and Chris has said this a lot 451 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. He said, like you mentioned, 452 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: the true comparison is Cam Newton, because he's so big, 453 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: he's so agile, he's fast, he's literally fast, and he 454 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: had Kikollon so out of these shoes a couple of 455 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: times last week because the Dolphins tried to spy him. Now, 456 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: I asked Bart Scott, which you can watch Jets flight 457 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: playing eleven thirty am CBS Sunday morning, about how do 458 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: you defend this guy you spy him? He said, well, 459 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: you gotta fource some left. It's interesting. One of the 460 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: plays we went over, which you have, Penny, you saw 461 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Allen being rolled left, thrown across his body with a 462 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: strike unbelievable accuracy twenty three yards down the field when 463 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: he was going left. So um. The other thing is 464 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: do you spire him? The Jets might have that guy 465 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: and Darren Lee, And that's what Chris Brown said, Hey, 466 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: listen Lee. As far as being athletic, keego Lions will 467 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: run and hit linebacker and he's a good player. I 468 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: don't know if he is quite the speed is lee. 469 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm very interested in this ball game and the elements too, 470 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: because if it is though, will be the first time 471 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: probably Donald's ever played in a game. I think he 472 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: played in the snow. I think he talked about Utah. Yeah, 473 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: I think that he's tame but not positive. But it 474 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: was definitely a cold. And the other thing that Donald 475 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: would be able to gain experience with, it's just playing 476 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: in one of the rowdiest environments. And I know both 477 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: these teams are going to playoffs, and both these teams 478 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: are gonna likely be top ten picks, but uh, this 479 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: environment will be quite rowdy, and this is a good 480 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: defense and be a great challenge for him and um 481 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I anticipate that whole play a lot better than the 482 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: last time we saw him. But the Justice gotta figure 483 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: it out offensively right now. It's it's tough going right now. 484 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, and it's just not 485 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: just stats. I think it was so frustrating for them 486 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: to a man that just couldn't finish, and he couldn't 487 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: finish in the red zone. But there's the play late 488 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: where you try to run the ball to Cannon. One 489 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: first down probably clinches that game. Without a doubt, and 490 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: and that locker room was you know, there were few men, 491 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: as top Bowls would say, and this is big time adversity, man, 492 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: because you're talking about professionals six game losing streak. They 493 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: played hard in Tennessee. Again here we go. No moral victories, 494 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: no participation trophies or anything like that, but they felt 495 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: like they let one get away, and it's been so long. 496 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: I just think that's a lot of pent up anger 497 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: right now. I agree. I think that being the locker 498 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: room after the game, it was almost fumid in a 499 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: disbelief kind of way. I talked to Jonathan Harrison after 500 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: the game, and he didn't really have answers for anything. 501 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: He couldn't fully digest. I don't think norc a lot 502 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: of the players fully digest what had just happened, because 503 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: the Jets had the lead until there were forty two 504 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: seconds left in the game. Yeah, fifty eight minutes, and 505 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: then Todd Bowl said that the one's gonna stick with 506 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: him for the rest of his life. But how quickly 507 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: can you turn the page? Because again I think there's 508 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: a double whammy because it's really testing your professional pride. 509 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Because Number one Buffalo came in your house and give 510 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: you a beat down. They really did it, pushed you 511 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: around in the trenches. Secondly, is Tennessee your latest game? 512 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: You had one within your grasp and you couldn't finish. 513 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: So how are you gonna respond? I guess we'll find 514 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: out Sunday, Yes we will. Do you have any anything 515 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: else here? Before we close up, Brownie said, bring your 516 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: shovels Okay, that's fair, spoken like a true guy from 517 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: the seven six. We will bring the shovel to Buffalo again, 518 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Jets Bill Sunday, one pm. Perhaps we shall see the 519 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: first meeting of Josh Allen and Sam Donald, two best 520 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: friends that anyone could have. That's all we have here 521 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: on the Official Jets Podcast. Thanks for tuning in, and 522 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: we'll see you next week of eight Doctors on actors 523 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: and a