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Speaker 3: We do. We need cook we need we need cooking
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Speaker 3: need CD to be cooking. We need a bunch of
Speaker 3: guys be cooking. But I would be remissed as the
Speaker 3: host of this show today and as a DFW transplant,
Speaker 3: I would be remissed if I did, if I burned
Speaker 3: the lead. I know that we are here to talk
Speaker 3: Cowboys Eagles. I know that we are always here to
Speaker 3: talk football. But an historic thing happened last night. For
Speaker 3: the first time in franchise history. Yours hours, the Now
Speaker 3: Worlds and Texas Rangers are twenty twenty three World Series champions. Kurt,
Speaker 3: I know that's that is Deer.
Speaker 4: That's real.
Speaker 3: There was big near Deer. That's real, right, dear Deer.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be here tomorrow. Fellers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's real, right there, We'll give you that like,
Speaker 1: that's real.
Speaker 3: I know that's real.
Speaker 4: See I can't be fake, so they ain't my team.
Speaker 4: But yes, that's real.
Speaker 3: That's why I passed into the kurr.
Speaker 4: Huh, say, what what did I do wrong?
Speaker 3: Mike talking to you like, oh, come on, man, like,
Speaker 3: just just walk us through, take us through that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was awesome, you know, just seeing it
Speaker 6: finally it was quite quite experienced. How many years it
Speaker 6: was actually at the game?
Speaker 3: So nice time they were in. So they were in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's big money down there at the day was money.
Speaker 3: Can't hide it can't. In fact, you shouldn't hide it, right,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't it.
Speaker 4: Well, stop hiding it, Holliday and get you.
Speaker 3: I'm holding it. I'm holding it. I ain't said I
Speaker 3: was hiding, and I'm just holding on you. I know
Speaker 3: I share.
Speaker 4: I should know you share what I'm saying. Don't hold on.
Speaker 3: I know it's coming. I've been looking, Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 4: How many years though? How many years did you work from?
Speaker 5: How I worked from for about eight?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: So yeah, before that, I was a fan. So pretty cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty cool. Texas Rangers twenty twenty three World Series champions.
Speaker 3: It was you know, I'm a I'm not a diehard
Speaker 3: baseball fan. I'm a casual baseball fan, transparant like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but enjoying it.
Speaker 3: But I enjoy I enjoyed, you know, the relationships I
Speaker 3: built over time with baseball baseball players, the organization, and
Speaker 3: be able to to watch it happen and it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, this season has its highs and lows, and
Speaker 3: it's ups and downs. It's great win streaks, win streaks,
Speaker 3: and it's not so great win streaks the way the
Speaker 3: year ended, and then you I think that the greatest.
Speaker 3: There's two things that I that really I appreciated just
Speaker 3: as a former player, as an athlete. There's two things.
Speaker 3: One was the ability for Bochi to come in and
Speaker 3: kind of being that zen master right to pulling all
Speaker 3: the right strings and the right pieces, because that's huge
Speaker 3: to a champion. You know this to a championship team.
Speaker 3: Coaching makes a difference not only not only acquiring the talent,
Speaker 3: but how to manage the talent when you know how
Speaker 3: to talk to the talent, because certain guys you can
Speaker 3: talk to certain ways. Some guys, you know, I can't
Speaker 3: come down hard on this, dude, because I was losing
Speaker 3: more than I already got and I already lost them.
Speaker 3: Some guys need that, that tough love and they appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Sound like that, dude, Yeah, Sometimes some people need that
Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes a little pound, little pound go a long way,
Speaker 3: but lock an attitude right about you. Yeah, there was
Speaker 3: two things I said. Oh and then the ability to
Speaker 3: go on the road. Ye like to win every single
Speaker 3: one of their games on the road. That's that's really
Speaker 3: unheart I don't, I don't. I'm not a baseball historian,
Speaker 3: but I doubt that it's ever been done on a
Speaker 3: road to winning winning a World Series, that you win
Speaker 3: every single game on the road.
Speaker 4: None at home.
Speaker 3: But what was it one?
Speaker 4: There wasn't game one?
Speaker 3: Game one? Yeah, but for the most you went every
Speaker 3: single game on the road. And hey, congratulations, congratulations to
Speaker 3: the world champion.
Speaker 4: Yes, Texas Rangers for the fans man.
Speaker 5: The road, win this Sunday. That'd be nice.
Speaker 4: Oh that's that's on the way, though I didn't.
Speaker 3: Whenever whenever Nick gets into that into that bag, it's
Speaker 3: always a little bit, it's always a little bit scary.
Speaker 4: You know why, mister.
Speaker 1: Holly, I missed, Hollis I'm serious, looking, Yeah, miss.
Speaker 4: Three or four shows me and you do know me,
Speaker 4: and you will go get it.
Speaker 1: There, three or four shows out of listen to three
Speaker 1: or four shows.
Speaker 4: And no one is picking us like I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm the lone ranger.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the lone ranger the odd nobody's
Speaker 1: picking us.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about it more as we go into
Speaker 3: this game. Cowboys verse the Philadelphia Eagles at the Link, Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: three o'clock Central Time, game four pm Eastern time. Let's
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Jalen Hurts and it's Philadelphia offense,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna I'm gonna pass it and share it
Speaker 3: with you guys before I give my take on what
Speaker 3: I saw on film. You know, Kurt put put something
Speaker 3: that was pretty interesting in the notes and I will
Speaker 3: let we'll elaborate off that. But the Eagles are top
Speaker 3: ten in both rushing and passing. Can we the Cowboys
Speaker 3: make them one dimensional?
Speaker 4: We have to. We have no other choice.
Speaker 1: They cannot run the football, Please please, they cannot run
Speaker 1: the football. The reason I'm the reason I'm saying that
Speaker 1: history has shown the Dallas Cowboys whenever a winning team
Speaker 1: and I ain't looked this up, just my eyes tend
Speaker 1: to mean this. Whenever he winning team, a team with
Speaker 1: one or two games better than five.
Speaker 4: Hundred rush for more than one hundred and twenty yards,
Speaker 4: we do not win. That is just what I believe.
Speaker 1: We cannot let them rush anywhere near one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards. We gonna have to put pressure on Jalen
Speaker 1: because when he's when he pure pressure is applied, he's
Speaker 1: around fifty fifty two percent. He's got six touchdowns and
Speaker 1: five interceptions. You know, I found it out from Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand back this morning. He brought it up, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's good to know. That's good to know that if
Speaker 1: we put pressure on this kid, you know, and take away,
Speaker 1: slow down the run pass option. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: really stop it, but slow it down. And every chance
Speaker 1: you get to hit this young man, you have to
Speaker 1: hit him.
Speaker 5: So is it like just keep him to one hundred yards?
Speaker 6: Is it got to be if you know fifty yards?
Speaker 4: You know what I want is the average not to
Speaker 4: be great?
Speaker 1: Say they round three point three point seven, three point
Speaker 1: si somewhere around there.
Speaker 4: You know, we have to allow our strength, and that's
Speaker 4: to rush the pass or to take effect.
Speaker 1: And the only way we can do that is we
Speaker 1: cannot cannot let them run the ball.
Speaker 3: And far as running the ball, for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 3: they use a trio of running backs with the lead
Speaker 3: dog being DeAndre Swift. They use Keniff gainwell more so
Speaker 3: in the passing game, and then they'll sprinkle in Boston
Speaker 3: Scott here and there. But what I've seen from this
Speaker 3: team as far as running is one of the things
Speaker 3: that I think a lot of teams that program into
Speaker 3: their mind is that you worry about the running backs,
Speaker 3: but then you also worry about who Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 3: as a runner.
Speaker 4: Yes, now.
Speaker 3: He's been a little bit sensitive about what he's been
Speaker 3: saying about this is supposed broom bruces knee injury that
Speaker 3: he's having. But again, I do always feel like it's
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. So whatever they have to pull out of,
Speaker 3: you know, injuries, whatever it is, whatever they have to
Speaker 3: do to get over that stuff, they'll get back to
Speaker 3: a point of Jalen Hurst being a running component in
Speaker 3: this offense. When you look at the way the Cowboys
Speaker 3: that played them in the past, they've used our aggression,
Speaker 3: our over aggressiveness, Micah Parsons in particular, to set up
Speaker 3: those RPOs that they use. One of the things that
Speaker 3: I've seen on film that they've done more so this
Speaker 3: year that they have in the past is I call
Speaker 3: them when I played. We call them long handoffs. That's
Speaker 3: when you see the screen game, right, You see this,
Speaker 3: You see the bubble screens, you see the tight end screens.
Speaker 3: And they use them on first down, they use them
Speaker 3: on second down, they use them on any down. But
Speaker 3: to me, it's it's an extension of the handoff because
Speaker 3: it's behind a line of scrimmage. And now I know
Speaker 3: they counted as a pass, but it's I get the
Speaker 3: ball right now I get into space. You'll see a
Speaker 3: lot of Swift and company. They'll run vertical corraupes to
Speaker 3: get everything lifted, and they'll take the running back and
Speaker 3: they'll just line them up boot he'll sit right over
Speaker 3: the center. They'll dump the ball to them. And now
Speaker 3: what you've created is this opportunity of space and opportunity.
Speaker 3: And when one of the running backs catch the ball,
Speaker 3: it's turning. Now you have to have a linebacker make
Speaker 3: the tackle on a two way go. So they're using
Speaker 3: these different components to what I look.
Speaker 4: At it as.
Speaker 3: Here are other ways that we technically run the football, right,
Speaker 3: you know, because they do most of their work they're
Speaker 3: twelve personnel team, they're twelve personnel team, eleven personnel team.
Speaker 3: But eighty five to ninety percent of the time you're
Speaker 3: going to see two tight ends, one running back, two
Speaker 3: wide receivers. That's twelve personnel, and they use that personnel
Speaker 3: a lot, and they kind of low you to sleep
Speaker 3: a little bit. With Goddard. They'll have him been blocking.
Speaker 3: They have n't been blocking, to have him been blocking.
Speaker 3: Boot quick pass to them, they'll block them to block
Speaker 3: and block them, tightened screen to them, right. So they'll
Speaker 3: use different components and mechanisms with the tight ends they'll
Speaker 3: use and they'll bring what's the other receiver's name, Smith, No, not,
Speaker 3: they'll use DeVante said, but but the Zacharias, they'll use
Speaker 3: him sometimes in the screen game. They'll use aj Brown
Speaker 3: in the screen game. To me, the screen game is
Speaker 3: just an extension of what they want to do in
Speaker 3: the running game. It's how can I get those guys
Speaker 3: the ball right now? And then what Jalen Hurts they
Speaker 3: make you play eleven on eleven football. That's one of
Speaker 3: the ways that they can hurt you is if they
Speaker 3: decide to deploy Jalen Hurts as a runner. And it's
Speaker 3: been kind of eh, it hasn't been as forceful as
Speaker 3: it has been in the past. He'll run if things
Speaker 3: break down, But as him being a run knee a runner,
Speaker 3: it's been a little bit down since since the supposed
Speaker 3: knee injury, So that's something that we have to look
Speaker 3: out for. And then, of course you get to the
Speaker 3: passing game. The passing game is going to be key.
Speaker 3: It's going to be crucial because I think Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: has developed into a decent passer. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 3: he's elite. I'm not gonna go elite. That's not I'm
Speaker 3: not going there. I think he has I think every
Speaker 3: year when we first came in, we thought he's a runner.
Speaker 3: He's a runner. He's a runner, he's a he's an
Speaker 3: athletic quarterback. Right He's becoming more now than a quarterback
Speaker 3: that has athleticism. He's taking those steps to get.
Speaker 6: To a would you consider him and maybe this is
Speaker 6: for after the break, but would you consider him the
Speaker 6: best quarterback going these days?
Speaker 5: Maybe not as a pure passer, but overall.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's a great question.
Speaker 4: Let's do this.
Speaker 3: Let's take a break, because I do want to break
Speaker 3: the passing game. Now, we'll answer that question on the
Speaker 3: other side of this break. We'll get more into Eagles
Speaker 3: offense Cowboys defense as we get ready for this heavy
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Speaker 6: I should say, you had some weird illness or something,
Speaker 6: but you've taken care of that fine, I think.
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Speaker 3: for this amazing This is this is this was probably
Speaker 3: for me. This is just just just me personally. This
Speaker 3: is probably the second game that I had circled on
Speaker 3: the proverbial cow Cowboys calendar. First was forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: That that was we looked, we looked at that one,
Speaker 3: and that was like, you know, that's when the brother
Speaker 3: meets the rod and uh to use the term that
Speaker 3: your boy Patrick, no c uh uses that this is
Speaker 3: the mid term. This is this is the mid term.
Speaker 3: They failed the first testing and the niners this is
Speaker 3: their their mid term, right, this is an opportunity.
Speaker 4: To pick up pick up a got an F and
Speaker 4: that didn't pick up a A.
Speaker 3: I mean listen, and then you get another chance at
Speaker 3: the end of the year to kind of really before
Speaker 3: the semester close, you know what I'm saying, and everything
Speaker 3: else is in between, the can kind of kind of
Speaker 3: be some extra credit points. You know you beat Yeah, the.
Speaker 5: First one was an F, y A or nothing or
Speaker 5: if they pull out a they got or something.
Speaker 4: Win.
Speaker 3: No, you gotta win.
Speaker 4: Gotta win.
Speaker 3: The win is the only way. There's no moral victory. No,
Speaker 3: your profession ain't never gave you a moral b. You
Speaker 3: ain't got him. You ain't never got that GPA, ain't
Speaker 3: never been like, well, you know, we're not going to
Speaker 3: give you your your degree, but morally, you know you came,
Speaker 3: you saw you conquered kinda so, But to Kurt's question
Speaker 3: before we went to the break, was is Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: the best quarterback going right now. It's hard, and it's
Speaker 3: just flashed up on the screen. It's hard when you
Speaker 3: talk about quarterback and quarterback play. It's hard to put
Speaker 3: anyone above the alien in Kansas City. I mean, he's right,
Speaker 3: it's it's difficult. It becomes it becomes difficult to put
Speaker 3: anyone individually above him like he is him. He can
Speaker 3: truly carry a team, he yes, and we're seeing it.
Speaker 3: We're seeing him in Travis Kelce, especially when when Tite
Speaker 3: is in attendance, literally carry their football team to victories.
Speaker 3: But I think for Jalen Hurts, and you tell me,
Speaker 3: Nate is Jalen Hurts. He's not the best. Where do
Speaker 3: you kind of see Jalen Hurts his progression? Where how
Speaker 3: far he's come and and and kind of where it
Speaker 3: is he the best quarterback in the NFC East?
Speaker 4: Hands down? Hands now?
Speaker 1: He the best quarterback in the nfcast He the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the East.
Speaker 3: Is he the best quarterback in the NFC?
Speaker 1: NFC Yes, okay, yeah, because you know you got the alien,
Speaker 1: like you say, Mahomes, then you got the kid that
Speaker 1: since and.
Speaker 4: Now I don't care this dude, This dude is Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: He is something different.
Speaker 1: And now this is the first time ever Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: is it's lead for the first time in my book,
Speaker 1: for the first time elver.
Speaker 4: But I can't eat six stay. We will find out interesting.
Speaker 3: And as we continue to break down Philadelphia's offense, I
Speaker 3: wanted to get more into the passing game. But before
Speaker 3: I do that, Nate just kind of give give us
Speaker 3: something on the offensive line. Now, we talked about Philly's
Speaker 3: offensive line. We talked about Jalen Hurst might not being elite,
Speaker 3: but there aren't too many offensive lines as a whole
Speaker 3: that are better than the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: The right guard, the right tacker. As a man, he's
Speaker 1: a man, full grown. And I don't think that our
Speaker 1: number one.
Speaker 4: Pass rusher got that would be Lane Johnson, and Johnson
Speaker 4: he's elite.
Speaker 1: So don't don't waste your time. If every snap you
Speaker 1: raced over there, it's like Jesse saying, you dropping back.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to dropped back in his zone because
Speaker 1: you're kind of wasting your time.
Speaker 4: He kind of know you.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, don't don't maybe one or two times just
Speaker 1: to keep it even.
Speaker 5: You know another guy in the slouch in another end is.
Speaker 4: Yeah a lota, you can move it. He can't move
Speaker 4: his feet.
Speaker 1: But now if he if he can cheat the snap,
Speaker 1: which both of their tackles are great at cheating the snap,
Speaker 1: if he get out there, he gonna make you come
Speaker 1: to his body and you ain't running.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of right. And they got the best
Speaker 4: center in football.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't need it.
Speaker 4: Right, So if he but but if you.
Speaker 1: Put someone on his head and just bring it full
Speaker 1: board every every snap, that's why I would use Mazie. Mazie,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you like just beating up a guy.
Speaker 1: Come beat up this guy. You know, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: They got the best center in the game, and the
Speaker 1: two guards are good, but they are great because of
Speaker 1: the other three guys.
Speaker 5: So how do you attack the two guards with the
Speaker 5: other three guys can put the pressure on.
Speaker 1: If we had that mac truck look like most good
Speaker 1: teams have where they put a guy with the center,
Speaker 1: guy with both guards. A but a few teams can
Speaker 1: do that, and Philly is one of those teams that
Speaker 1: can line that up. I would like for us to
Speaker 1: do that. You know, put three heavy hitters.
Speaker 3: Right over there.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and uh in Gallimore, put them guys and
Speaker 1: just line them up and you know, and then put
Speaker 1: your guys out.
Speaker 4: Whye your two best rush guys out? Why to let
Speaker 4: them go?
Speaker 1: That's if you can be successful on first and second down,
Speaker 1: and that has been the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you look at what this team is now
Speaker 3: from a passing standpoint, A J. Brown is on a
Speaker 3: tear like let's just let's just call it.
Speaker 9: What it is.
Speaker 3: And we were talking about elite, this elite, that elite,
Speaker 3: this elite that A J. Brown is in the conversation
Speaker 3: as if not the best receiver in the league, it's
Speaker 3: him Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: Like I don't in Tyreek Hill him, and then everybody
Speaker 4: else sir, yes.
Speaker 3: He'll be the toughest they've they've seen. And we joked
Speaker 3: about it about you know, sometimes a little bit complaining
Speaker 3: can go a long way. After he had that situation
Speaker 3: with Dayalen Hurts on the sideline six seven weeks ago,
Speaker 3: he is turned on to a different level. And I
Speaker 3: was literally thinking about this last night. I thought about
Speaker 3: it again in the shower. No, I was not thinking
Speaker 3: about a man in the shower. I was thinking about
Speaker 3: a concepts around the men that I'm getting ready to
Speaker 3: talk about in the shower, because I was saying, like,
Speaker 3: all right, how can I say this and it not
Speaker 3: be misinterpreted for something else, not the shower situation. What
Speaker 3: I'm about to say it already miss But I kept
Speaker 3: going back from that, and I just said, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm I'm Jesse Holly, I say things. I'm Zaddie.
Speaker 3: My show was called on the field, Just say it.
Speaker 3: And I thought to myself, the cowboys in the secondary,
Speaker 3: they do not have a player, man for man that
Speaker 3: can stop a J. Brown.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: See see look you are, You've already missed it. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the folks and the man in the room
Speaker 3: right next to me. You've already missed. Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Am I saying that dron Bland can't win some battles?
Speaker 3: Not saying that? Am I saying that Gilly can't win
Speaker 3: some I know there's a there's a video out there
Speaker 3: floating about what Gilly did when they were when he
Speaker 3: was with the coach, and that was eons ago. It
Speaker 3: feels like I'm saying that where AJ Brown is right now,
Speaker 3: as a player.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, if.
Speaker 3: You lined him up and matched him up with anybody
Speaker 3: in our secondary over just man and man coverage, they
Speaker 3: would lose more than they would win. And that's not
Speaker 3: just our secondary, right, that's the Giants, that's Washington. Pick
Speaker 3: a team.
Speaker 5: So is it pick a team when you do it
Speaker 5: in zone or you bring the guy over to help, or.
Speaker 3: You have to mix it up and you have it
Speaker 3: starts up front, right, You have to figure out ways
Speaker 3: to pressure Jalen Hurts. When Jalen Hurts is going backwards,
Speaker 3: he's not an accurate quarterback. What they do with Aj
Speaker 3: Brown is they're going to throw the ball to him.
Speaker 3: He is You know what it reminded me of I
Speaker 3: played with Des. I played football with Des Bryant, and
Speaker 3: there was a stretch of football where Dez was so
Speaker 3: unguardable when you threw the ball vertically down the field
Speaker 3: one guy, two guys, it didn't matter if you gave
Speaker 3: him a chance to go up and get the football.
Speaker 3: He was winning a large percentage of the time. Like that,
Speaker 3: to me is the mode that Aj Brown is in
Speaker 3: right now. Where he is physical, he's big, he's strong,
Speaker 3: he's fast, he's physical at the point of attack when
Speaker 3: the ball, when he's when the ball is in the air,
Speaker 3: it don't matter if you pulling his face mask, if
Speaker 3: you're grabbing his arms, if you hanging on his back.
Speaker 3: I mean, it is a strong, strong catch every single
Speaker 3: time when they line um up on the left side.
Speaker 3: I know, we've heard many shows talk about it. When
Speaker 3: they line him up on the left side, that's when
Speaker 3: they take their shots. I've called multiple receivers. I've called
Speaker 3: multiple quarterbacks just asking the question. Some quarterbacks said, when
Speaker 3: you throw that. If I'm a right handed quarterback, if
Speaker 3: I'm throwing the ball to the left, the trajectory is
Speaker 3: an easier trajectory than is when I throw it to
Speaker 3: the right, I can line it up differently to that
Speaker 3: arch to where I can miss the way I miss.
Speaker 3: If I miss a little bit inside, I can see it,
Speaker 3: but I can kind of get it over to wherever
Speaker 3: I'm throwing it down the right hash I kind of
Speaker 3: my arc is different, you know. Also it's kind of
Speaker 3: when I open up my step, it just it just
Speaker 3: flows better. Some receivers like to catch the ball over
Speaker 3: there right shoulder. It becomes easier catch when you catch
Speaker 3: it over your right shoulder, oppose the catching it over
Speaker 3: your left shoulder. So it's it was a back and
Speaker 3: forth conversation. But a J Brown and Jalen Hurts when
Speaker 3: he's on the left hand side, that's where that is
Speaker 3: going up. And that's Duran Bland. And if there's we
Speaker 3: talk about how Dron Bland continued on having the success
Speaker 3: of taking the football away like Diggs. The one of
Speaker 3: one of the other things that Dron Blank kind of
Speaker 3: adopted with Diggs. You can beat them on a double move.
Speaker 3: It happens that way. So for me, I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: Malie Hooker, you gotta be a little bit more shaded
Speaker 3: to that side especially. But again, they move him around,
Speaker 3: they put him in motion, they put him in orbit motion,
Speaker 3: they line him up tight formations like and that's that.
Speaker 3: That is the gift of the New Age NFL is
Speaker 3: that you're able to line these guys up in these
Speaker 3: different formations in different places where it becomes difficult to
Speaker 3: jam at the line of scrimmage or to because if
Speaker 3: I line him up, if I line AJ Brown in
Speaker 3: a in a tight formation or a bunch formation, if
Speaker 3: he's not the point of the formation, then automatically the
Speaker 3: coverage means he's off. And then now if I have
Speaker 3: a bunch of room to the sideline, what is that?
Speaker 3: How do the safety how do you have to play?
Speaker 3: Because if I got some, if I got some vertically
Speaker 3: coming at you, you have to maintain your integrity to
Speaker 3: the vertical route coming at you. And it kind of
Speaker 3: almost limits what you can do out there with AJ Brown.
Speaker 3: But he's gonna win some. I hope that that that
Speaker 3: the ron Blam wins some. But it's gonna be I mean,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be difficult to stop AJ Brown, like, go ahead, Well, it.
Speaker 6: Just seems like he opens it up for his other
Speaker 6: of the receivers too. I mean DeVante Smith's sixty yards
Speaker 6: a game where our second receivers ever, and you're in
Speaker 6: thirty two yards again, I mean is that the case?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, all focused, Yeah, all eyes are focused
Speaker 3: on him. The tight end gets involved in it. You know,
Speaker 3: Dallas Gollard, they run the over route, they run the
Speaker 3: quick out routes. With these guys, it gives Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: the opportunity to have three levels worth of options. The
Speaker 3: backs are always there for a checkdown, the tight ends
Speaker 3: are on that intermediate show we got fifteen more minutes.
Speaker 5: Forty five yards a game. Our tight ends thirty three
Speaker 5: yards game.
Speaker 4: I mean it just can we can we leave?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 3: Why you want to go? I mean I'm gonna talk
Speaker 3: about our defense in a good way as well too.
Speaker 3: We have some matchups.
Speaker 5: Don't get depressed.
Speaker 1: I mean, this dude's been talking for thirty five minutes
Speaker 1: about the same old Come on, man, change the script.
Speaker 3: All right, Davante Smith, Stephan Gilbot, You're gonna have a day,
Speaker 3: my boy.
Speaker 4: It's it's great stuff.
Speaker 3: This will be this will be another Offensively, this team
Speaker 3: may not have the schematic, intelligence, style and flare of
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, it might be more talented.
Speaker 4: Player for player, Like definitely.
Speaker 5: Their offense is like last in motion and that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff.
Speaker 3: So player for player, I think this quarterback, receivers, running backs,
Speaker 3: tight ends, definitely, offensive line is is more talented man
Speaker 3: for man than what the Niners were. But it's gonna,
Speaker 3: it's gonna, it's gonna for this Cowboys team. It's always
Speaker 3: gonna end up being one of the Cowboys. Defense is
Speaker 3: always gonna end up being can you stop the run? Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: because they're gonna test it they're gonna test it. And
Speaker 3: it reminds me when we go back and think about
Speaker 3: might have been a year or two ago and they
Speaker 3: had they had these two significant drives. They had a
Speaker 3: drive in the first half and the night they did
Speaker 3: the same thing. And they had a drive in the
Speaker 3: second half that was like six to eight minutes long
Speaker 3: and it was like eleven straight runs. Remember that drive
Speaker 3: And to me, I never forgot that drive because they
Speaker 3: didn't have a great running game, but it was the
Speaker 3: drive that said we need to put in a four
Speaker 3: minute drive, a man drive, and you know what's coming,
Speaker 3: and we know the drive is coming, what are you
Speaker 3: gonna be able to do to stop it? And there
Speaker 3: was nothing that we were able to do to stop
Speaker 3: that drive. And they went down it. It was either
Speaker 3: touchdown or field goal, and it kind of stealed the deal,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so they don't they
Speaker 3: didn't forget that. Still players are still there that did that.
Speaker 3: So for the Cowboys, it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 3: stopping you know that front. We'll take our last break
Speaker 3: when we come back, we'll talk. We'll talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, boy, you talk and talk just equally. I
Speaker 1: was asked about our defense equally are better.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yes.
Speaker 3: On the other side of this break, this is hanging
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Speaker 4: Enter today, back Hanging with the Boys. Hello, this segment
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Speaker 1: This is Hanging with the Boys, and Jesse just gave
Speaker 1: you fifteen minutes of just uncut greatness on one guy
Speaker 1: aj Brown, and now he's finna present to you the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense.
Speaker 3: Go Jesse, you can actually do this, bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can do it. I want you to do it.
Speaker 3: You can actually do this.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 11: That was good.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: I saw the official dating app of the.
Speaker 4: Dallas cous Right, here's Jesse, Here's Jesse. Yeah, here's Kurt.
Speaker 4: Come home up, Fred, What do you want from me?
Speaker 1: Everything you just gave us about the offense and then
Speaker 1: wide receiver give us to the Parsons and kind of question.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I was reading on the Eagles website. They're
Speaker 6: worried about the Cowboys speed on defense. There's a lot
Speaker 6: of stunts. Well, obviously they you know, they linebackers and
Speaker 6: chosen speed. When you're playing a big, physical team like Philly.
Speaker 6: Does that speed help or hurt?
Speaker 3: Speed always helps when it's going in the right direction.
Speaker 4: Yes, it does.
Speaker 3: Discipline. Speed always helps, yes, yeah, but the Eagles have used.
Speaker 5: That against explain more going in the right direction.
Speaker 3: So one of the things that the Eagles did to
Speaker 3: the Cowboys a few times, you know, it was Michael
Speaker 3: We talked about it is Michael Parsons. He's such a
Speaker 3: he's such an athlete, and he wants to he wants
Speaker 3: to do well a lot of times. But it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, Michael, if you have outside containment, then I
Speaker 3: know that it may feel like you can beat them
Speaker 3: inside with speed, but when you go inside with speed,
Speaker 3: you give about side containment. And when they get into
Speaker 3: those RPOs, you have to be patient enough to say, Okay,
Speaker 3: I understand who has the running back, and I also
Speaker 3: understand that who has the quarterback, and you can't you
Speaker 3: can't get going so fast that you go get the
Speaker 3: running back and you forgot, oh, I supposed to have
Speaker 3: quarterback and now he running around the sideline for a
Speaker 3: first down or for a big play, right, you know,
Speaker 3: shaves back to shaves back to Josh Dobbs on the
Speaker 3: first play of the game running down the side line
Speaker 3: for forty seven yards. It's ah, you're going so fast
Speaker 3: and you know you're going with. I know where you're going,
Speaker 3: but I ain't where you're supposed to be going. Your
Speaker 3: assignment was to hold containment. That that's the biggest thing
Speaker 3: is is the speed is there because when they have
Speaker 3: to go back to pass. This is why the Philadelphia
Speaker 3: like to use those screens, those quick passes to negate
Speaker 3: that speed to negate those things happening up front, right
Speaker 3: Because if you're coming quick on the inside and I
Speaker 3: get it to the outside, now you got to put
Speaker 3: your foot in the ground and reroute and run all
Speaker 3: the way twenty five yards out there. The residual's effect
Speaker 3: of that all throughout the game wears you down because
Speaker 3: I'm chasing. I'm chasing him a three hundred pounds a
Speaker 3: lotta I got to run out here because the screen
Speaker 3: is still out here. I'm still to the go. You know,
Speaker 3: eleven guys to the football that wears you down over
Speaker 3: the course.
Speaker 4: Of a game.
Speaker 3: I'm giving you.
Speaker 4: No no, I want to hear.
Speaker 3: Do I get your ten dollars?
Speaker 1: You get it every bit of Just tell us for
Speaker 1: the next three or four minutes, how great the Dallas defense.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Cowboys defense. Finally, of course it starts it
Speaker 3: starts begins the middle in the end with Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: and I am with you one hundred percent. I think
Speaker 3: one of the ways that you uh that you use
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, you continue to use Michael Parsons in the
Speaker 3: way that you've used him before to your point earlier,
Speaker 3: which I would disagree with. I want to take and
Speaker 3: do what we've done a lot of time, what we
Speaker 3: did in the Rams game with Michaeh is I want
Speaker 3: to line up those other two defensive ends over the guards.
Speaker 3: Then have my other ends kind of in that WY
Speaker 3: nine where I mean outside of the tackles, and then
Speaker 3: I want to line Micah up right over Jason Kelce
Speaker 3: because and then I want to stunt with those guys,
Speaker 3: because when I stunt, what happens is when I stunt,
Speaker 3: those guards can't come in and give excuse me, Jason
Speaker 3: Kelsey help. When there's a stunt happening on our side,
Speaker 3: I have to sit and tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: But as a guard, I gotta sit and wait for it.
Speaker 3: If that guy goes away, my mind is telling me
Speaker 3: somebody's coming back, right So before I can kind of
Speaker 3: give my body help to the to the center. I
Speaker 3: gotta sit and maintain. I might be able to give
Speaker 3: an arm, but I gotta sit and maintain because I
Speaker 3: know that that defensive end is coming back into this space.
Speaker 3: What does that create if I now have Jason Kelce
Speaker 3: with those two guards spread out, because those the tackles
Speaker 3: have lined up wise, So I gotta split. I gotta
Speaker 3: make my split wide. I give a two way go. Now,
Speaker 3: you can't do whatever single time, but I think that
Speaker 3: is a way that you can. You can get the
Speaker 3: pressure on the jailing hurts. Have him now run you
Speaker 3: want to chase him into those defensive ends that are
Speaker 3: coming up the field or those tackle that now come
Speaker 3: out and loop looped around.
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 6: We've already you were saying that the guards or the
Speaker 6: weak spot of the line. Is there a way to
Speaker 6: run the stunt where you're getting Parsons one on one
Speaker 6: with one of the guards instead of Kelsey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done it. We've we've done it before. It's
Speaker 3: it's when you see you'll see Micah. Sometimes he'll come,
Speaker 3: he'll have his hand in the dirt and he'll be
Speaker 3: an end on one side, and then what will happen
Speaker 3: is the same thing, the same tackle stunt. But now
Speaker 3: I'll take a guy like Hankins and put him over
Speaker 3: the over the center. You know, I'll make him a
Speaker 3: nose and I'll say, here's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Hank You get on and you latch on to Kelsey,
Speaker 3: and I don't care about nothing else. Your job is
Speaker 3: now to drive him back.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: You ain't got responsibility, no responsibility, because now what I
Speaker 3: want is I want that center to be drove back
Speaker 3: and again once that tackle now has to bump out
Speaker 3: because that down lineman looped, Kelsey's occupied. The guard now
Speaker 3: is sitting there waiting for whatever comes back underneath. Out
Speaker 3: of that twist, the twisting guy you now make Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: and that now gives him a two way go at
Speaker 3: the guard. So there's waves that you can do it,
Speaker 3: and they've done it with Michael Parsons before. But what
Speaker 3: you have to no, don't come in and talk now.
Speaker 8: No. No.
Speaker 3: What you have to do though, is you got they
Speaker 3: got me talking offensive line. You got a six times
Speaker 3: super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: I just want to hear what you had. Give me,
Speaker 1: give me some props on your on my defense. But anyway,
Speaker 1: what you have to do is first and second down
Speaker 1: is so key. Now for what he's talking about, we're
Speaker 1: talking about six or more. We need them in third
Speaker 1: and six. We need them in second and six. You know,
Speaker 1: even though they will run on those downs, you got
Speaker 1: to put them in longer, long situations. If you put
Speaker 1: them in short situations, none of this works. None of
Speaker 1: this works. You at the end of this game, if
Speaker 1: they have seven, eight or nine third down situations, you
Speaker 1: want them to be at thirty percent. You want them
Speaker 1: to be at thirty percent. That means that's that's loan
Speaker 1: yardage that they're looking at. So in order for all
Speaker 1: this now, I just wanted Jesse because he has that capability.
Speaker 1: I mean you you you you kissed all over aj
Speaker 1: I wanted you to kiss all over our defense.
Speaker 4: Man, for real, you you hurt me then? Man, it's
Speaker 4: like every show I'm on now, I just feel like
Speaker 4: I'm a lost soul.
Speaker 3: Bro, We'll speak up.
Speaker 4: I'm a lost soul.
Speaker 3: Speak up, Just speak up.
Speaker 5: Tell us your thoughts on the defense and on our defense.
Speaker 4: We're great, We're great.
Speaker 1: We've shot down to run in the last two games
Speaker 1: where we're playing Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: See you're doing Whether Cowboys, Whether cow again where the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are really good at and I love the stuff
Speaker 3: that you put in their curve. The Cowboys are first
Speaker 3: in the league and stunts their top ten league in
Speaker 3: blitches and allowing that to be a part of what
Speaker 3: they do. And there are there are opportunities because here's
Speaker 3: when you get Jalen Hurts in trouble. And I think
Speaker 3: we have the ability to do so. Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 3: a one read quarterback. He's not a quarterback that's sitting
Speaker 3: back there and he's scanning the field for three or
Speaker 3: four five reads. They've simplified his offense and here's where
Speaker 3: you're going with the football. Here's the look that we want.
Speaker 3: If it's not there, you'll start see him kind of
Speaker 3: like backpedal, backpedal trying to mix something not of nothing
Speaker 3: or til eventually we throw the ball out of bounds.
Speaker 3: We have to and we've done this two quarterbacks. We
Speaker 3: have to hurry their process. We have to hurry up
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. We have to take away option number one
Speaker 3: for Jalen Hurts. When he lines up and he looks
Speaker 3: out there, he can't get the ball and throw the
Speaker 3: quick out to the tight end. He can't throw that
Speaker 3: ten yard speed out to Davonte Smith. He can't have
Speaker 3: the option. Now, the screen play, you can't do nothing
Speaker 3: about the screenplays, the bubble screens. What you can do is,
Speaker 3: I can defeat which Dron Bland has been really good at.
Speaker 3: I mean exceptional, I mean really really really, really really
Speaker 3: really good at defeating the blocker in the bubble screens.
Speaker 3: The Marquise Bell has been really good at defeating linemen,
Speaker 3: getting to the backfield, defeating the blocks. This team has
Speaker 3: been really good at that in those key spots. Stefan
Speaker 3: give him On not so much, but Deron Blan, He's
Speaker 3: been really good at it. He's been really, really really
Speaker 3: good at it, defeating that initial block and then blowing
Speaker 3: up that. You know, but this is gonna be this
Speaker 3: is gonna be a big game for a guy like
Speaker 3: Jayron Curse. This is gonna be this is gonna be
Speaker 3: a game practice, I know, with a toe injury, but
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a big game for jay Ron Curse.
Speaker 4: I just know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, he's just giving you the I think
Speaker 3: this is going to be a really good game for
Speaker 3: for jay Ron kurtse he's gonna he's gonna have his
Speaker 3: playful dealing with Dallas Goddard and such. But yeah, this this,
Speaker 3: this is a good football team we're playing. It makes
Speaker 3: no make no bones about it. This is a good,
Speaker 3: good football team.
Speaker 4: So you think we should move the Rangers parade to Sunday?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, get that out the way. Get some
Speaker 3: joy out the way, because you might not have no
Speaker 3: joy on Sunday.
Speaker 4: You're just by that game is going on. If he
Speaker 4: ain't doing speeches and I can't get nobody to ride
Speaker 4: with me, man Chris Bean riding with me?
Speaker 3: Chris Bean, how do you feel about the game?
Speaker 12: I'm scared as Hello, Shannon will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Will take your phone calls tomorrow. Eighty eight eight five
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Speaker 4: Jo, Yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 3: Pray for pray for Nate tonight.
Speaker 4: Please. I feel like a lost soul.
Speaker 10: Uh.
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Speaker 4: He will be back tomorrow. Okay, so he has computer? Jump,
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Speaker 3: All right, man, Appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Nate, Chris, thank you for being here for the jokes
Speaker 3: and keeping us up and running the back on somebody
Speaker 3: whoa you one?
Speaker 4: He let.
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