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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Almost Famous to OG's. It is Bob and Trista and

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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen. We are recapping jones huge Golden Bacherette

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Speaker 2: finale last night. I mean, honestly, that was next level stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm so freaking happy for her. I just ye oh gosh,

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Speaker 3: I adore her and I I've been playing ketchup, so

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen some of the episodes, but I watched.

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Speaker 1: The finale last night because I feel like, I, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Had talked to her, so yeah, but I just want

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Speaker 3: to see, like what kind of transpired, what happened. But

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Speaker 3: I am just overall just so happy for her. I

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Speaker 3: feel like it came up numerous times throughout the season,

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Speaker 3: where you know, and and she said on Golden Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: I feel invisible. I totally I related to that, even

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Speaker 3: though I have not, thank god, lost a husband or

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Speaker 3: a partner and am not as old as her. Although

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Speaker 3: we are very close to we are very close. We

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Speaker 3: are very close.

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Speaker 1: We're closer to them.

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Speaker 3: Than we are to the Yeah you know, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Heard her when she said she felt invisible. I heard

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Speaker 3: her this season when she said that she felt like

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Speaker 3: she was being selfish by looking for somebody else to

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Speaker 3: love in life, you know, and that she didn't want

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Speaker 3: to replace John. But but yet she felt guilty for

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Speaker 3: looking for somebody to make her happy for the rest

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Speaker 3: of her life. And that just makes me so sad

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Speaker 3: because I'm sure she is not alone. There have got

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Speaker 3: to be millions of people who feel that way.

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Speaker 1: That they feel like.

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Speaker 3: First of all, they don't deserve it for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: which is so sad to me, And then that they

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Speaker 3: feel selfish, that they give of their life every day

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Speaker 3: to their family, to their job, to whatever, and that

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Speaker 3: they don't feel like like they're like they're being selfish

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Speaker 3: if they're looking for love again. So I love that

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Speaker 3: she found it.

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Speaker 2: I know me too, I agree with you, I mean, Joan,

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Speaker 2: I think put a little bit of a magnifying glass

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Speaker 2: I mean, you hear about it with actresses, you hear

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Speaker 2: about it with you know, people that you know, when

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Speaker 2: they reach a certain age, they feel like they've almost

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Speaker 2: been like pushed aside for the younger, you know, demographic

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Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. And she she kind of

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Speaker 2: put a little bit of a magnifying glass on that,

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Speaker 2: and to a certain degree, I think for me, even

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Speaker 2: made me think about my mom differently, Like I had

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Speaker 2: to look at my mom and go Oni and my

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Speaker 2: dad died a few years ago, and my mom, you know,

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Speaker 2: she doesn't. I mean, she she's wonderful with my kids

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but that doesn't that's not how she,

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Speaker 2: you know, has to live the rest of her life

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Speaker 2: is being an on call babysitter, you know. And I

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Speaker 2: mean don't even said that. She's like, I love my grandchildren,

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Speaker 2: but I want to do some things for myself still

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Speaker 2: and not feel bad about it. And God bless her,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I think I think the ending

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Speaker 2: was pretty spectacular. You know. I didn't feel like I

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Speaker 2: got to know Chalk at all throughout the course of

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Speaker 2: the season, so obviously I know he had left a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and I love that he came back, and

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Speaker 2: you know that she it was almost like a different

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Speaker 2: Joan when he was around, you know, like you could tell,

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Speaker 2: like the other guys are cool too, and we've gotten

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Speaker 2: several of them from the show and stuff, but I

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Speaker 2: that it was pretty magic. You know, it was great

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Speaker 3: I do want to say though that so when I

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Speaker 3: had my like little coffee chat with her, she definitely

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Speaker 3: Chalk was was one of the one of the strongest

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Speaker 3: I feel like relationships at that time, and I think

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Speaker 3: it was it was before Hometowns, so there were actually

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Speaker 3: seven guys still when I talked to her. So I

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Speaker 3: know that Chalk was a was a she was having

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Speaker 3: strong feelings for him, but Pascal she was having very

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Speaker 3: have happened if if Pascal hadn't left, you know. I

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Speaker 3: I think that it doesn't take away from the feelings

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Speaker 3: has now for Chalk, but I just wonder, you know,

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Speaker 3: what would have happened. And and that is just for

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Speaker 3: me to say. I hope that she doesn't hear this

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Speaker 3: with Pascal. But you know, part of me is just

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Speaker 3: a viewer, not as a as a friend, wonders, you know,

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Speaker 3: if Pascal had stayed and so it's it's just so hard.

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Speaker 1: This show is just so crazy.

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Speaker 3: And and you know, I wonder how Chalk feels about that,

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Speaker 3: you know, if if it's come up in conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it has because why wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, and we all know too, we know better than anyone.

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Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff is editing too, you know,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, they make it so that you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, and you just buy into the narrative

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Speaker 2: and then you're like, you know, she could be like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was, I was. I was

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Speaker 2: feeling conflicted when Pascal left. But you know, Chocolate my

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Speaker 2: guy the whole time. You know why, I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 2: fight out a lot, you know, after it's all said

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Speaker 2: and done. Well, I'm excited about Trista is that if

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Speaker 2: there is a wedding on this one, you already secured

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Speaker 2: me an invite. I am so fared up. I'm finally

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Speaker 2: getting the good in the big show.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 1: No, they're going to get married at Disney World or something.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, they probably are. Everyone's invited. The world's invited.

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Speaker 2: I'll just be like sitting there, one of the world.

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Speaker 1: If you just so happen to be at Disney that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, okay, everyone, if you've got a special

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Speaker 2: bracelet come into our reception. Bob Well to push you

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Speaker 2: at the bar if you want, you just be a

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Speaker 2: our tender today. I'm like, I'll work it, hey man,

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Speaker 2: I'll take let her I can get. I just want

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Speaker 1: I'm just so happy for her.

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Speaker 3: She you know, when we last talked, which was I

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Speaker 3: think a week or two ago, she was just on

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Speaker 1: She was. She's so happy.

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Speaker 3: I feel like she feels she feels like safe again.

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Speaker 3: She feels like she can she can be happy. It's

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Speaker 2: I love it too. I love it too. No one

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say no one deserves this more and

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Speaker 2: you know, who's still young and heart and vibrant and

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Speaker 2: love isn't just for young, dumb teenagers, right or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's it's for everybody. And it's nice to know that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can find like that second shot at love,

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Speaker 2: you know, after after you know the love of your

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Speaker 1: I love her.

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Speaker 2: I think she's super nice and what a great choice.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised at the end they didn't

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Speaker 2: announce a new Golden Bachelor or Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: True story, well, they would, they would announce Golden Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: But for me, I just I wonder if first of all,

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Speaker 3: they're in conversations with people. I don't have any inside

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Speaker 3: on social Charles was being discussed. He's the adorable Asian man.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love him, like I just want

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Speaker 1: to wrap him. I just he's so cute. And then Mark,

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Speaker 3: there's Mark, there's Pascal, which he would be like, you know,

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Speaker 3: hold back. He's walking around in his tidy whities on camera, like.

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Speaker 2: I saw that they might not be able to contain him.

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Speaker 3: For you know, but I think, you know, people people

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Speaker 3: and I really don't. I don't think all the drama

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Speaker 3: course the media makes it out to be. So sure,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of good guys. But one question I

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Speaker 2: You know, I have thought about that. I feel like

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Speaker 2: we talked about it a few times. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: manufactured drama, you know. And yeah, I'm joking about of

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Speaker 2: course I could. You know, I have no problem watching it,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I feel like that would cheapen

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Speaker 2: that way, but my I love in the integrity of

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Speaker 2: how I look at this show right now, which is

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Speaker 2: everyone gets along there, you know. I feel like Bachelor

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Speaker 2: in Paradise and that whole thing is a little rooted

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Speaker 2: in a little more of the backbiting, conniving stuff, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean that for everyone, but that's just

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Speaker 2: my high level, thirty thousand foot view, and I just

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Speaker 2: see these people differently, I really do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I tend to agree.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I wonder if there's a way that

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Speaker 3: they could do it without it being like salacious, you know,

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Speaker 3: where it's still because listen, the bottom line of Bachelor

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Speaker 3: in Paradise is that all kinds of people from the

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Speaker 3: from the show that we've known all the shows can

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Speaker 3: come together and people can meet, you know, on camera,

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Speaker 3: of course, but in a in an environment where we

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Speaker 3: can introduce people from different.

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Speaker 1: Shows to each other. Right, So it.

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Speaker 3: Would be like bringing Golden Bachelorette and Golden Bachelor together

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Speaker 3: in a way, but maybe not do it salaciously, Like

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not on the beach. Maybe it's you know,

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Speaker 3: not in tidy whities and speedo's, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess we're gonna find out in due time,

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Speaker 2: because it's going to be it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: great one if it happened, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So thank you everybody for tuning in for this

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Speaker 3: little catch up session really quick, little what are we

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 3: A little recap of the Golden Bachelorette finale, the first

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Speaker 3: ever Golden Bachelorette, and so happy for Joan.

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Speaker 1: We are so.

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Speaker 2: Happy for you, Joan.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, We love you, Joan, We love you Joan and Chalk.

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Speaker 3: We're so happy for you, guys and your newfound love.

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Speaker 3: You're well, well, well deserved love, So happy for you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in, everybody, and go enjoy the golf

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Speaker 3: course today.

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Speaker 2: Bob Guinea, Hi, Will, I'll talk to you guys soon,

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening, Bye everybody,