WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: NBA Trade talk 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.160 Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:05.480 Of twenty four hour NBA news. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:11.920 This you lo, Chris Hans, It's time, works time, It's 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:12.920 so time. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.840 This League uncut is underway in on fire. This should 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:28.720 be a good one. Hello friends, Thursday afternoon. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.040 As Chris and I tape this latest edition of this 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.959 League Uncut, the finals are over. The twenty twenty two 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.960 to twenty three season is in the books. Trade season, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.280 or at least the chatter it generates, is already underway. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:55.680 The Denver Nuggets championship parade is raging right now as 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.720 we speak, as we tape, and we will get to 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.120 the Nuggets eventually. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.240 We will put a bow on their title run. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:09.840 The first championship in that franchise is forty seven season 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.039 run in the NBA, and of course there were nine 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:17.039 glorious seasons before that in the ABA. First title in 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.639 more than fifty years for Denver. We will, I promise, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.040 get to that. But first we got to start with 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:29.160 the trade chatter because it has been so aggressive already. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.840 You just say trade season. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.400 Do we gotta spell that with a s ZN like 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.959 I tweeted out a couple of pieces before we started 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.120 taping this I feel a little I feel a little 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.920 too old to be saying trade season and spell it. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.679 S z N. If anybody can get away with it, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.280 that's forty five and older. You can. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.200 You can do that, so you get I. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.880 Don't even remember. I don't even remember forty. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.600 Five to Nice. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.800 That was a long that was It was almost a 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:58.440 decade ago. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:01:59.880 Nice. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.560 Let's just jump right into it. Bradley Beal, I think 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.320 the situation is more advanced than it's been described. I 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:17.040 think the end is near. Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Draymond Green, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.799 all drafted in twenty ten twelve, with you. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.200 Donnis Haslam retiring. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:27.040 Now, those three are tied for the third longest tenure 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.680 with one team. The only players who've been with their 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.960 teams longer the Splash Brothers Stephen Curry drafted in two 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.720 thousand and nine Klay Thompson drafted in twenty eleven. Those 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:43.040 are the only two players with a longer longevity run 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.519 than Bradley Beal in Washington, Damian Lillard in Portland, Draymond 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:53.960 Green yet another Warrior at this point, you know, Dame Lillard. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.240 His name keeps coming up. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.840 We have no indication yet that there's any real real 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.079 trade smoke there. But Bradley Beial to me, the trade 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.760 smoke is very, very very legit. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:07.960 What do you see? 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.120 I agree, I think you know, you look at that. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.240 There's new regime over there. There's a new general manager 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.720 over there in charge of the basketball operations over there, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.480 Michael Winger. So you have to understand that when changes 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:27.320 like that are made, oftentimes they want to establish a 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.480 new team, establish a new identity, a new culture, and 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.920 that often leads to personnel changes on the roster and 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.839 Bradley Bial being the main stay there. The Wizards were 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.680 not going anywhere. They haven't went anywhere in a while, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.000 and so if that's going to be the case, I mean, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.440 I think it's obvious to look at some form of 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.960 a rebuild and I think, well, that's not a thing. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.760 Bradley Bial doesn't want to be a part of rebuild. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.040 And thus why we're, you know, in the situation we 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.920 are now. This is the realist that has ever been 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.680 with Bradley Beal, and I think that's what needs to 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.520 be relaid out there. Like we've heard of Bradley Beal 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.440 talk over the last few years, linking him to the Lakers, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.320 or to the Miami He you know, that's been going 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.520 on for the last three four years. This is as 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.040 real as it's gotten. Let me know what you think, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.080 but Stein, I would be surprised if he's a member 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.240 of the Wizards going into next season. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.000 Do you have that? Are you? Are you that? Do 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.599 you just feel that strongly about it as well? 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:31.800 I do? 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.360 I agree with you because the crazy part about this, though, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.320 is Bradley Beal holds pretty much all the cards, which 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.480 is makes this such a unique situation. I wish I 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.120 could remember exactly how old I was when I first 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.800 heard the term no trade clause, and it was I know, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.160 I was pretty young because in baseball, it was it 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.960 was a thing, you know, I was. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.520 Baseball was my first love, you know. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.320 I want to say early by the early eighties, the 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.120 prospect of the no trade clause in baseball was starting 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:12.799 to get more prevalent. Like I said, I really should 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.760 have researched this better. It might have even been late 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.320 seventies in baseball. But in the NBA, I've written about 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.800 this a bazillion times because I've always found this a 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.400 pretty interesting subject. In the NBA, a no trade clause 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.520 is so hard to come by. You have to have 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.279 eight years of service time and four with the same team. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.920 But the wrinkle that makes it tough is it can 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.000 only be in a new deal and most of the 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.360 best players in the league they do extensions. They play 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.279 out their rookie scale, play out their rookie scale deal, 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.760 then they do a rookie scale extension. Then you know, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.800 they typically extend off of that. Like you have to 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.320 get all the way to unrestricted free agency to get 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.159 a no trade clause to add it into a new deal. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.680 And that's exactly what Bradley Beal did last summer. He 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.599 went to unrestricted free agency and then sign that massive 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.320 five year, two hundred and fifty one million dollar deal 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.000 with the Wizards. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:12.359 And the Wizards they gave him a trade kicker fifteen percent, and. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.920 They gave him the no trade clause and it is 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.599 the only full no trade clause on the NBA map. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:24.159 And because Ted leonsis blessed that last year, Bradley Beal 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.000 and his agent Mark Bartostein they are in control of this. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:33.760 The Wizards cannot trade Bradley Beal unless he blesses it. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.080 And I think, as we've seen, because you know, you mentioned. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.080 You know, there was talk last year, will he try 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.640 to go to the Lakers? Will he try to go 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.279 to the Heat. You know, Bradley Beal has stuck with 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.560 the Wizards his whole career. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.400 He's not just gonna go anywhere. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.320 He's not just gonna say yes to the deal Washington 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.800 wants to make that might bring Washington back the most 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:01.560 in terms of assets. By all accounts, Miami. That is 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:06.760 the team that is most intriguing to Bradley Beal. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.760 Maybe others will emerge. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.240 As this process goes on farther, but at this point, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.920 it's not the Knicks. I don't think Boston or Philly. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.600 I don't think either one of those Eastern powers is 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:25.679 even pursuing this. You know, Miami right now, that's the team. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:31.280 And because of that no trade clause, it really puts 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.360 Washington in this brutal position of they're probably gonna and 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.760 you know what, whether it's Miami or someone else, even 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.000 if some other team emerges, Miami's going to have to 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.200 consider trade proposals that they probably would not have considered 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:46.960 because again. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.400 Bradley Beal is the ultimate decision maker here. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.080 I would throw Brooklyn in there as well as a 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.920 team that interesting, I could potentially get in the mix 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:03.800 if Bill. You know, that's again you talked on just 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.200 how scarce it is for an NBA player to have 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.960 that no trade clause. So that eliminates a lot of teams. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.200 So I know, like fans like to you know, they 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.520 love rumors, they love rumors, they like nuggets, they like 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.520 the details, they like to stay on top of how 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.520 things are progressing. But with the Bill situation, we have 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.880 that no trade clause, it's going to eliminate a lot 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.160 of those potential rumors out there, and it's going it. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.040 Could be boring. I don't know. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.400 I don't know if this is something that's going to 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.200 play out where he's linked to the Mavericks, he's linked 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.240 to here, he's linked to here there. Those reports still 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:43.480 may get out, but they might not hold validity because 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.400 of the power that Bill holds in it. And so 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:48.880 you know that that's one thing to be you know, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.760 but I expect over the course of over the weekend 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.439 leading to next week, we'll see a few teams start 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.880 emerging in the Bill sweepstakes. And then we'll we also 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.559 here may start hearing about teams that Bill doesn't want 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.760 to go to as well. That can very much happen. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:12.520 I remember when Anthony Davis was requested his trade in 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.240 New Orleans and. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.240 He didn't have no trade clause. It wasn't like that, but. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.240 I reported it was probably a few weeks before the 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:28.480 trade deadline. I reported that he had no interest in 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.880 being traded to the Boston Celtics. Remember because at that 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.439 time the Celtics were in place, and so a lot 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:40.480 of times what that does when when the word gets 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.760 out that a player is not interest interested, it messes 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.760 up there and messed up their value, and then teams 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.760 start to think, well, is it worth having a is 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.600 it worth bringing a player like ad over because he 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.040 may just bounce at the end of the year, Like 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.439 it's it worth trading away all those assets for a 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.440 year rental. We've seen what happened with Toronto Fadl semi 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.160 worked out because they got a championship out. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.360 Of it with with Kawhi Leonard. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.440 But those are things you have to weigh, and those 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.200 are the type of stories or developments that could come 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:15.319 out of the process of us continuing to monitor Bradley 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:16.080 Bill's situation. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.000 Yeah, you said it, ad The hammer ad had was 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.720 if I get traded somewhere, I don't want to go. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.520 I'm just going to leave in free agency at the 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.320 first opportunity. But this hammer that Beal has really is 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:35.160 the mightiest hammer you can have, because you know he 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.400 can block the trade. It was the end of May 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.840 when Washington struck the deal to hire Michael Winger to 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.200 basically take over Monumental Sports. He has oversight of both 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.559 the Wizards and the WNBA's mystics. And you know, from 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:57.040 that point in rival front offices, this expectation has been 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:02.240 building that a teardown was likely, that the Wizards were 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.120 gonna go on this aggressive path to remake the roster, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.160 and obviously that starts with Bradley Beale. And look, I 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.040 think in a perfect world, the Wizards would love to 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.760 know that they could get draft picks and cap relief. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.640 But again, because Beale holds so much sway here with 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.200 that no trade clause, it's gonna force the Wizards to 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:31.680 look at proposals that they just nor they wouldn't even 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.800 consider if they had more leverage and ability here. But 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.520 it will make it a lot easier if it would 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.920 be a lot easier if if Bradley Beal would tell 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.040 us exactly where he is or isn't willing to go. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.000 But I'm gonna leave it to I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.640 leave it up to a reporter like Chris Haynes to 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.080 get to the bottom of that, which I'm actually gonna 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.960 I'm actually I'm not a betting man, but I'm gonna 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.959 bet on Haynes to be among those who among those 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.760 who very likely will figure out exactly where mister Beal does. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.600 And doesn't want to go. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.880 But it's it's funny how you said how much the 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.800 people you know love these kind of stories. Today in 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:16.920 Dallas we had huge news locally where Norm hitchkis, who 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.800 is an absolute institution locally. He's been on Dallas radio 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:28.079 for nearly fifty years. I mean, you know, he had 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.920 the first morning show in Dallas in terms of sports, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.959 and one of the first in the country. I remember 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.880 seeing him on ESPN Baseball broadcast before I moved to Dallas, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.400 and you know, I've lived here a quarter century now, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.240 and you know he's been on the radio that whole time. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.680 Just he's Norm Hitchkiss is a Dallas sports franchise. Onto 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:52.600 his unto himself when I posted my congratulatory note to 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.920 Norm after he announced his retirement. The first response on Twitter, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.760 when is your next pod discussing Mavericks trade in draft chatter? 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.480 So that just tells. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.160 You nobody has time for Nobody has time for sentiment 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.479 right now or anything else they want. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.199 They want the trade talk. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.680 And they are quick with it. It makes me believe 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.720 that they got that in draft. So no matter what 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:20.880 you tweet, you could have tweeted rest in peace to somebody. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.360 We don't care about that. Where's where's Chris Paul going? 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.880 Don't even think about It's funny you brought him up too. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.320 I got a call from a team today. What do 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.319 you know about Chris Paul? What is Haynes telling you 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:33.959 about Chris Paul? 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.839 I'm like, heyes. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:36.959 What Haines is telling me is what's on the pod. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.640 Everything we've said on the pod. That's what I listen 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.040 to the pod. That's what I said. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:44.719 That's a good way to bring on me a star. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:45.520 That's a good way. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:46.720 It works. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:52.320 But try so Look, Bradley Beal, on one hand, you 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.520 know that that it's a five year, two hundred and 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.360 fifty one million dollar deal. So look, any team that's 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:03.720 trading for him, you really have to do some serious 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.360 numbers crunching to fit him in because in this new CBA. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.600 You know, that's really my question with. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.000 The Heat that Okay, maybe Bradley Beal is going to 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.400 want to go to Miami, and maybe that's the direction 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.880 this is going to go. But what kind of deal 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.720 can the Heat assemble to bring in Bradley Beal as 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.880 basically your third guy? Their two main guys are going 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:34.080 to stay Jimmy and Bam. This is Jimmy's team and 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.120 Bam out of Bio with the defense he plays that 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.440 you know, the interior anchor that he is. I mean, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.920 that's the twosomewhere it all starts. If you're bringing in 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.320 Bradley Beal at that number again in this new CBA, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.840 it's going to be really tough to put a balanced 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.920 roster around three guys making that kind of money. So 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.280 to me, I do wonder is this the direction that 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:02.200 Miami really wants to go? And I think it is 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.800 at this point, But I throw in the disclaimer that, okay, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:12.440 does someone else they like better than Bradley Beal become available? 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.760 And the natural name to throw out is Dame. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.880 But again, as we speak as we're recording this on 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:22.360 the afternoon of June fifteenth, Damian Lillard to this point 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.160 is not in trade play for Miami or anyone else. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:31.000 So at this point, I do think Beal is at 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.120 the top of Miami's list, but it is fluid. Things 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.720 could change if Dame or someone else they. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.880 Like becomes available. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.400 All right, let's move to the first big potential underlying 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:04.000 the word patental trade story that emerged. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.080 After the NBA Finals. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.160 We are as we're recording this, we're one week away 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:15.080 from the NBA Draft on June twenty second. New Orleans 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:22.120 interest in Scoot Henderson has become a significant talking point. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.520 A lot of people around the league are buzzing about this, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.600 and the reality is the Pelicans they have the fourteenth pick, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.080 and to make sure they have a shot at Scoot Henderson, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.880 they would need the number two pick because the Hornets, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.960 who hold number two, are still deliberating between Scoot Henderson 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:46.120 and Brandon Miller, which one of those players would they draft. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.000 If the Hornets keep the pick, they've kind of kept 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.000 the league off balance. Some days you hear it's going 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.720 to be Scoot. Some days you hear it's going to 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.720 be Miller. That's obviously by design. The Hornets are trying 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.880 to keep teams off balance. But the talk is, and 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.080 you know, I went into I went into this in 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.679 depth with a story on Wednesday, and based on what 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:15.560 I'm hearing, yes, the Pelicans are legitimately considering. Doesn't mean 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.520 they would one hundred percent do it, but they are 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.159 considering the prospect of trying to assemble a deal for 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:27.440 Charlotte's number two pick that would feature Zion Williamson. And 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.240 at first blush, you say. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:32.840 Wait a minute. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.560 For only four years removed from Zion going number one overall, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.560 New Orleans would actually seriously consider trading him. And again 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.160 the word I'm hearing is yes, it's something that they 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:51.240 are weighing. What do you see in the Fresno crystal 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.600 ball here? Could you see New Orleans actually parting with 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.760 Zion to get up to number two in the draft 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.880 or number three? Lynn is the other kind of variable here. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.960 But if you trade for number three, you might not 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.879 get Scoot. Charlotte might stay on too, might hold firm 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.800 and take Scoot Henderson at number two. So look into 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.760 your crystal ball. What do you see, mister Haynes. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.400 I think the only way. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.159 Well, first of all, as answer your first question, do 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.720 I think they could move Zion, Yes, I do. Giants 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.440 availability has been an issue, you know, there have been 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.840 questions about how he has how he has attacked his 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.560 several rehab stints. So you have that, and then you 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.800 just have the urgency of the Pelicans. They're trying to win, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.240 They're trying to do something now. So you put all 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.320 that out there that leads me to believe. Yes, I 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.600 do agree that they would consider moving him now when 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.040 it comes to moving up to try to get scooted 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:57.480 unless Charlotte lets everybody knows that they're going with Brandon, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:58.400 which I. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.800 Don't think Charlotte should do. I don't think they will do. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.320 I think you keep that very close to the Vest 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.520 to give yourself the opportunity to get the best deal possible, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.160 to get New Orleans to want to do a deal 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.520 with you opposed to a deal with the Blazers at 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:21.200 number three. And so I think from New Orleans standpoint, 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.040 if they really want Scoop, they have to figure out 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.959 a deal to get that second pick. And that's what 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.040 I think Charlotte should hold close to the Vest and 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.480 New Orleans that they've been looking for. They've been in 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.359 need of a point guard. You know. CJ has been 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.400 playing that position, but he's more of an off guard. 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.720 And I don't know will that make New Orleans better? 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.560 You know, Scoop. Look, I had to I was invited 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:47.959 to Scoots. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:53.119 He had a personal workout in Atlanta last week, but 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.800 I was covering. I was covering game three or Game 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.479 four of the finals, and I couldn't make it. But 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.160 just from the video footage I watched from a couple 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:02.360 of his workouts, Man. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.240 The guy, I mean, body wise, he's NBA ready. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.480 You know, he's like he's really he's really a physical 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.840 specimen already. And he's played in the G League and 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.600 he's nineteen, and a lot of nineteen year olds are 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.800 not ready day one of the NBA. But the fact 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.120 that he's played against grown men already, I think that 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.199 puts him a step above probably his his counterparts. So 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.920 with that being said, if New Orleans really wants that, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.359 I think they gotta go. They got a trade for 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.440 that number two pick. I don't think he can mess 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.200 around and try to wait and hope that he falls 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.359 number three and try to do some with Portland. I 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.440 think that would be a catastrophic move. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.920 You've always been plugged into the Scoot Henderson camp. He's 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.200 never going to admit it. They're never going to publicly say, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.720 but just if you were surmising, will use that word 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.600 instead of speculating, would he be excited to land in 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:58.280 New Orleans? 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.480 You think that's something that would appeal to him? 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:03.639 You know, I haven't. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.359 I haven't spoken with him since this had this had 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:11.119 surface before it was just Charlotte New Orleans. And I 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.919 know he's a big Dame fan, and you know, I 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.000 think at some point Dame and Scoop might talk in 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.280 the near future, but so yeah, I haven't. I haven't 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.120 spoken to them, uh in recent days since this new 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.239 surface about New Orleans. So I really I don't know 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:29.280 how he feels about it. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.520 I guess so he's been He has been pretty outspoken 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.119 about the Portland thing, hasn't he like he he wants to. 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.840 He's convinced that he can he can become that. 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:40.840 If he ended up with the Blazers, that he could 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.240 play next to Dame and be an instant contributor. 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:43.720 For sure. 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:45.720 He wants he wants to play next to Dame. He 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.160 wants to play the next Dame. So you know, Dame 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:50.959 has a decision. You know, I know this is a 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.960 scoot New Orleans topic, but you know, Dame kind of 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.719 a nice segue into into what Dame is going to do. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.720 He has a decision to make. Is he going to 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.040 be happy with the number three pick? The players also 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.440 have believe that twenty third pick as well. So it's 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.880 like Portland they can do a few things like if 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.320 they keep the number three, if Dame feels good about 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.920 the possibility of him and Scoop being able to work together, 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.600 and he thinks that, you know, Scoop can take help 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.080 take this team to the next level, then there's other 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.640 packages that Portland could look into trading the number twenty 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.520 three pick along with we've been hearing you know, Athrety 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:31.920 Simon's name being available. 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.400 Does Simons in the number twenty three get you. 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:41.679 A good quality starter waterline all star player? 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:43.000 Does it? I don't know. 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.200 And so Portland has a lot They got a lot. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:48.080 Of decisions to weigh. 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.840 But as it pertains the Scoop, you know, he believes 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.280 he's ready day one, he believes he's prepared, he believes 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.919 he's yeah, very confident he believes he's prepared more than 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:03.800 anybody in this draft class. And so for New Orleans standpoint, 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.280 that bodes well for them if they're able to make 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:06.919 that happen. 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.639 The thing is with Zion, so let's transition to Zion. 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:12.439