WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Prayers For Damar

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<v Speaker 1>Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Board and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast, the Prayers for Damar edition, as

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<v Speaker 1>we reflect on the life saving treatment that Damar Hamlin

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<v Speaker 1>received on Monday night, and then look ahead to Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>game against Baltimore Coming up. Bengals long snapper cal Adamidas

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<v Speaker 1>shares thoughts about his former high school and college teammate

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<v Speaker 1>who is making progress at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Special Teams captain Michael Thomas describes how he and his

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<v Speaker 1>teammates are dealing with their emotions as they prepare to

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<v Speaker 1>return to action. Peter King from NBC Sports gives us

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<v Speaker 1>the national perspective on what took place in Cincinnati on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night, and finally, in this week's Know the Fast

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<v Speaker 1>segment will spend a few minutes with former Ravens wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver Codrea Smile. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency Action Plan and the dedicated professionals at pay Course

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium who saved the life of Damar Hamlin. The NFL's

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency Action Plan or EAP, is utilized in instances of

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<v Speaker 1>severe trauma. Every team in the league is required to

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<v Speaker 1>rehearse it twice each year before the start of preseason games,

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<v Speaker 1>then sixty minutes before every game, the medical professionals in

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<v Speaker 1>attendance hold a meeting to go over everybody's assignment so

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<v Speaker 1>that there is no confusion if an emergency takes place.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, every second counts. On average, there are roughly

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<v Speaker 1>thirty medical staffers at every NFL game, including doctors, trainers, paramedics,

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<v Speaker 1>and an airway management physician that's the person responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the emergency measures required to save a player who has

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<v Speaker 1>stopped breathing. There is an ambulance parked close to the

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<v Speaker 1>field at every stadium that includes cardiac life support equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything I just described proved to be crucial when Damar

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<v Speaker 1>Hamlin went into cardiac arrest. The EAP is comprehensive and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody involved at pay Course Stadium followed it with speed

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<v Speaker 1>and skill to restore Damar's heartbeat before he was transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital. As I record this podcast on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>there is encouraging news as Damar is awake and communicating

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<v Speaker 1>with family members. His doctors say he has shown substantial

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<v Speaker 1>improvement in the last twenty four hours. Damar Hamlin is

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<v Speaker 1>in his second year with the Buffalo Bills after being

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<v Speaker 1>a four year starter at pitt Prior to that, he

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<v Speaker 1>was ranked as one of the top defensive back recruits

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<v Speaker 1>in the country while playing for Pittsburgh Central Catholic High School.

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<v Speaker 1>In high school and college, one of his teammates was

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals long snapper cal Adamidas. I talked to Cal about

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<v Speaker 1>his friend. You were his high school and college teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you like people to know about tomorrow? I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, a lot of what he's done through

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<v Speaker 1>his career is kind of public knowledge now with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his foundation and his toy drive and all that

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<v Speaker 1>those different things. But you know, UM, just really with

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, UM knowing Damar through high school and in

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<v Speaker 1>college and he's just always, Um, although he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, he was our biggest recruit and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the star of our team. He was always a good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was a guy who was always

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for playing time and uh, this is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was still a tight end. And he you know, always

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<v Speaker 1>treated everyone on that team the same way. And whether

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<v Speaker 1>you had thirty offers or you know, we're helping out

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<v Speaker 1>on the scout team. So I think that's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an important thing to remember about him. And while you

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<v Speaker 1>keep him in your prayers, could you tell from an

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<v Speaker 1>early age that he was likely to realize this dream

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<v Speaker 1>of being an NFL player? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he uh, he definitely was just not only you know

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<v Speaker 1>as extremely physically gifted, um, even at high school. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know had had a great work ethic always

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And uh you know in high school he

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<v Speaker 1>was always getting extra workouts and always working with two

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<v Speaker 1>tents speed and agility, which is you know the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Donald trains with as well, and um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's constantly constantly worked with him. Um, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know even in college as well, Um, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way he prepared for every game and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>took care of his body and I'm sure continues to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of his body throughout his professional career so far.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he just knew he was he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pro before he was a pro. Basically, the outpouring of

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<v Speaker 1>support has been amazing. The last time I looked, more

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<v Speaker 1>than six million dollars has been raised for his children's

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<v Speaker 1>toy drive. What is that showing you? What does that

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<v Speaker 1>meant to you? You know, that's definitely the the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the silver lining of all this so far, as just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how many people you know, love dMar and care

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<v Speaker 1>for him and just just that outpouring of support. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been uh, you know, it's been a men's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>borderline overwhelming. You know, it's uh, and I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how how his family's feeling with just the roller

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<v Speaker 1>coaster of emotions and uh, you know, just just pray

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<v Speaker 1>that people keep supporting because you know it's uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>still still gonna be a battle for for some time,

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<v Speaker 1>um from what I've heard, but UM, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's anyone that's gonna I think, is capable to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pull through and you know, be able to live the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their life, the way they want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna be DeMar So, you are a captain

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<v Speaker 1>your last year at Pitt, he was a captain the

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<v Speaker 1>year before. That's a player elected title at at Pitt.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he a no brainer to be in that role? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think everyone pretty much saw it

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<v Speaker 1>coming that that he'd be one of our captains just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for kind of the the reasons that um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I just mentioned with him, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>being a weight room guy. Not only just a gifted

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<v Speaker 1>player on the field with you know, great football IQ

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<v Speaker 1>and and senses, but just um, just the way he

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<v Speaker 1>prepares for every game. And that was always something that

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<v Speaker 1>stuck out and you know, something that I learned from

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<v Speaker 1>as well, being a year younger him, you know, through

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<v Speaker 1>my time at Central Land at PIT. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely definitely a no brainer that that he was would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of our captains at pit. How emotional and

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<v Speaker 1>difficult has this been for you having known him for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you have and been his teammate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's um, you know, to be quite frank, it's just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's still things are still sinking in each day,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, it is odd because you know, obviously, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time with him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's weird. It's always uncomfortable, like get a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of people reaching out to you, and uh, it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>like you appreciate it, but also like just it can

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<v Speaker 1>be uncomfortable at times, like you don't necessarily want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the center of attention and a time like this,

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<v Speaker 1>um and you just want to keep all the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the prayers and the love going towards him and his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's greatly appreciated all the support that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with people reaching out to me, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>who also played with him in high school, and all

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<v Speaker 1>our high school teammates just getting back in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>each other and supporting each other. But it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of too many emotions of process. Really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>sharing some thoughts on Damar and we're obviously all praying

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<v Speaker 1>for his continued recovery and hope to get great news.

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<v Speaker 1>Suit Absolutely thank you. Kalla schedule to join us on

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<v Speaker 1>the active roster who are no longer in their twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback Brandon Allen, who is thirty and special teams

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<v Speaker 1>captain Michael Thomas, who is thirty two. Mike is in

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<v Speaker 1>his eleventh NFL season, and I reached out to him

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<v Speaker 1>this week to get his perspective on returning to the

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<v Speaker 1>field on Sunday. Mike grabbing this conversation on Wednesday at

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<v Speaker 1>about one thirty in the afternoon. How are you and

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<v Speaker 1>your teammates doing? Still processing everything? I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's trying to get back to what it's normal to

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<v Speaker 1>us since we, you know, have work to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's no mistake, like there is no normal heels in normal.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened it's not normal, and I think guys are

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<v Speaker 1>still processing it. But it's good to be back around

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<v Speaker 1>each other and you know, joking in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lifting weights and and and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably more questions than answers at this point, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think us doing being there together, I think that helps

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<v Speaker 1>WIT moving forward. Could you sleep on Monday night? What

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<v Speaker 1>you do on Tuesday? Yeah, there's absolutely no sleep. Man

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<v Speaker 1>and wife talking. Thank god they were here, just so

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<v Speaker 1>I can have somebody to go back to and be

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<v Speaker 1>with after the game. Just talking just put things in

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<v Speaker 1>perspective as the first time in my career where I

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<v Speaker 1>actually I had any type of thoughts of like and

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<v Speaker 1>as what I'm doing right? You know, it's just worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>As my wife and kids came from Houston for this

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<v Speaker 1>game and they were in the stands. Yeah, Tuesday though

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<v Speaker 1>filled with a lot of calls, a lot of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what's happening. A lot of guys had questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I still had questions. I'm still processing everything, wrapped my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to wrap my head around of what we just experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>In my loving year career, I've never seen, heard of

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<v Speaker 1>or experience anything like that um and accepting the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that like, yeah, I was a little shit and not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to brush you know what I'm saying, like like

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<v Speaker 1>brush over that and trying to you know, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of teammates hitting me up asking questions, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get answers, visiting constant communication with

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<v Speaker 1>leadership or whether that's the NFLPA, and you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>an execuve committee member, I was still serving. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, I'm actively involved in experienced this, but

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<v Speaker 1>still serving. I'm in serving the Bills players, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was in contact with a couple of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys serving uh De mar Reese Smith actually flew down

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<v Speaker 1>and we took a visit to the hospital. We met

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<v Speaker 1>with DeMar's family and they were appreciative of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that I'm thankful that the Bengals organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, NFLPA were just providing so many resources to

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<v Speaker 1>their family because they felt the love, they felt the support.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what about Tuesday looked like we're visiting that.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas, what did this episode, this incident tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about the NFL brotherhood. It's bigger than football, man, It's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than competing. It's bigger than trying to win a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl or a conference championship or the Vision Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like at the end of the day, nobody ever wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see somebody injured, let alone fighting for their life

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<v Speaker 1>from playing on the field. I've never again, never experienced

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like then. And to see how we all came

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<v Speaker 1>together once we saw what happened and realize that, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not no regular injury. There's something bigger than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love the fact that we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, we didn't have to huddle. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>instantly everybody like, nah, like this we're trying, we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like come together, we're praying together. We we we've

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<v Speaker 1>been together, we're fighting together because that's one of our

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<v Speaker 1>brothers down there. And then to see instantly how the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of our brothers across the league, in our membership

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<v Speaker 1>past present, came together. And then you saw it because

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<v Speaker 1>you saw that, you saw how the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>how the rest of the US, how the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sports world, just regular sittings, how they poured

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<v Speaker 1>their love and started prayer. Like that's just how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is way bigger than a sport of competition

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<v Speaker 1>like this, somebody fighting for their live. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>human you know what I'm saying. And that's that's we were.

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<v Speaker 1>We were, I guess, force to recognize that in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And we you know, we don't normally live in that

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<v Speaker 1>with football. That's normally I escape football being in this facility,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's normally I escaped. And we were forced to

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<v Speaker 1>like deal with something real at that point. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just love the fact that we all there was no

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<v Speaker 1>discussion needed, like we all just came together and did

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing, the human thing, the brotherhood thing. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it just came together and was praying together. And because

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of our brothers on the field fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for his life, the world is praying for Damar. Many

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<v Speaker 1>of us are also praying for t Higgins. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an unfortunate accident. It was a freak accident. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody could reasonably think that he did anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet simply from being involved, many of us are

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<v Speaker 1>just worried about his mental space. How will you and

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<v Speaker 1>your teammates try to help Tea continue to ask him

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<v Speaker 1>if he's all right, which it will be like paying

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<v Speaker 1>a little close attention. And I'm saying that with a

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<v Speaker 1>smile and like a smirk because T's are naturally quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, individual he has a different personality and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's unique in that way. So to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well he's being quiet or he's being to himself like na,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually kind of normal, you know. So it's like nah,

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<v Speaker 1>but spending a little bit extra time like saying what

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<v Speaker 1>up going by checking on him and I think guys

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<v Speaker 1>are naturally doing that. Don't want to make it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy, want to keep some type of normal seeing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like just letting him know we're here from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly there was nothing menacing or you know, like malicious.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing malicious or ill you know intended like

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<v Speaker 1>play with T the more number. That was a football play.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just a and that to be honest, just

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, that's kind of what shaking everybody too,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was just a football play and that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like so down we were gonna continue to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put our arms around tea and like brother, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I say, you are brother, We got you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you didn't do nothing wrong, the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>all and so much love and support for everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>that Bills organization, the players, man. Like, we've been in

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<v Speaker 1>constant conversation, communication and having conversations with them, your regards

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a relationship with guys, even the ones

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. Everybody's still just been texting, hitting up, hitting

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<v Speaker 1>each other up on social media, CoA and just let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody letting each other know. No one you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That was nobody's fault and we're still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what happened, you know. So it's as being

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<v Speaker 1>there for our brothers, being there for each other. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. As a Bengals fan, I'm proud to have,

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<v Speaker 1>proud to have Zach Taylor as our head coach. After

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how he conducted himself, after seeing him go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital to visit tomorrow that night. Does this incident

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<v Speaker 1>st a light on your head, coach? Absolutely? I Mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many things you can try to a ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can try to describe it and say, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason why he's such a great head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the reason why he took that approach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a former player, he understand like that

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of it in the need to have a more

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<v Speaker 1>humane and personally, you know, personable reaction to what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Or you know, he's just a great guy

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just a great human being, or you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's passing, he's a players Like that's just who

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor is. And he knew and understood the magnitude

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<v Speaker 1>of everything where football did not matter in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a son, that was an older brother, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a teammate that was laying down, They're fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>his life, and at that point football did not matter

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<v Speaker 1>no more. And he knew as a head coach, if

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at as a leader of this organization, as

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<v Speaker 1>this team to face whatever, it's my job if I

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<v Speaker 1>got a team coming to my you know, my house,

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<v Speaker 1>my stadium, that I stand up and say, like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>we care that every single person in here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new came to compete. They're leaving out of here healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and if they can't, I'm gonna make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>show y'all enough respect to come to y'all locker room

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<v Speaker 1>and say what do y'all want to do? Oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>has to spend the night over here and y'all going

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<v Speaker 1>back home. I'm gonna go I'm gonna treat like you

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<v Speaker 1>one of my players. I'm gonna go see you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, that's who Zach Taylor is. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing but respect. I mean, he had that most

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<v Speaker 1>respect for him before, but that's just you know, adds

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<v Speaker 1>on to who he is as you just know that

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<v Speaker 1>in the immediate aftermath, the game is insignificant, but player

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<v Speaker 1>is going to continue on Sunday. It's an important game

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<v Speaker 1>for the bank. You're taking on a division rival, you

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<v Speaker 1>are still in Super Bowl contention. You know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you approach practicing and playing this way? I mean, again, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>with so many questions that we don't have answers too.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we know that life

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<v Speaker 1>continues to go like this, sport continues to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>all we can do is keep pressing forward and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find We're gonna find out what that looks like together.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna figure that out together. But at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I think there's something to it of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever that looks like, doing it together and

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to our routine. It allows us to not

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<v Speaker 1>take our minds off of it, but just grow and

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<v Speaker 1>go through that process together to try to find healing

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And if we have questions, I love the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that this organization has provided so many resources, the NFLP,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, They've provided so many resources for us to

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<v Speaker 1>just even have open space to talk, like ask a question,

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<v Speaker 1>even if we don't have to answer and ask a question,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know y'all feeling that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>allows us to move forward and get and prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>these games. And again, yeah, we're experiencing on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but shoot, everybody else was watching. They're experiencing it too.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the same questions too, And we know that

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<v Speaker 1>just because of our union and the calls we've had

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<v Speaker 1>just in these last twenty four forty eight hours, and guys,

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<v Speaker 1>guys are feeling the same thing around the league. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, we got an important game, but nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>more important than the more fighting for his life and

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<v Speaker 1>us trying to figure out when what happened in two

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<v Speaker 1>like is he gonna be okay, we didn't get that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy got injured, but he walked off on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy had to get on the court, but he

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a thumbs up. We haven't gotten that, and

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<v Speaker 1>normally that's what gives guys a strength to keep fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep putting that, putting it on the line out

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<v Speaker 1>there on the field. We haven't gotten it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>prayers are going to continue to go. We just want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him continue fight and be trending into a

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<v Speaker 1>positive direction when it comes to this healing. But our

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<v Speaker 1>prayers they're going out for him, his family, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna keep finding a way whatever that looks like. Together.

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<v Speaker 1>I said at the beginning of the broadcast on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night that it didn't feel like just a playoff atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it felt like a Super Bowl atmosphere. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the Olympic opening ceremonies. And you guys came

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<v Speaker 1>out and it looked like you were going to play

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<v Speaker 1>your absolute best game. I think by my math, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the one and twenty fifth NFL game that you've

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<v Speaker 1>played in. Had you experienced anything like that in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season? Like though, you, like you said, there, we

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<v Speaker 1>approach and that's what I love about this team. We

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<v Speaker 1>approach everything like, nah, it's just another game. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to go through our process and be who we are

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<v Speaker 1>and just do what we do. Guys knew what that

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<v Speaker 1>can be. And I love the fact that everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>executing at a high level. Well, even if we gave

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<v Speaker 1>up a play, there was something great either somebody you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being physical coming off the ball, like making a play,

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<v Speaker 1>making a block, like everybody kind of raised they level

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And it definitely did have any electric feel.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely did have that Super Bowl type just level

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<v Speaker 1>of concentration, level of focused, level of execution. So for

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<v Speaker 1>what is worth whatever it ends up being called a

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<v Speaker 1>dress rehearsal by no no contest whatever, Like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got the answers we wanted. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your willingness to talk about this and your thoughtfulness.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all thinking about you, guys. Obviously our prayers

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<v Speaker 1>are mostly centered around tomorrow Hamlin, but we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>all of you and we wish you all the best

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. Thank you, Dan, appreciate it Man that we're

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<v Speaker 1>praying for his family too. Thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 1>paycorps dot com. The NFL has not announced if the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals game against Buffalo will be continued. The most likely

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<v Speaker 1>scenario seems to be that the game will be declared

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<v Speaker 1>no contest and that the Bengals and Bills will play

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<v Speaker 1>one fewer game than everybody else. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals would no longer have a shot at the

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<v Speaker 1>number one seed in the AFC, but could still be

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<v Speaker 1>the number two seed if they beat Baltimore and Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>loses to New England. That's a big deal because the

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<v Speaker 1>number two seed gets a second home game if it

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<v Speaker 1>wins its playoff opener. If the Bengals Bills game is

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<v Speaker 1>declared no contest and Buffalo beats New England on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>then Cincinnati would be the AFC North champion and the

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<v Speaker 1>number three seed in the AFC, regardless us of their

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Ravens, because they would have a better

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<v Speaker 1>winning percentage than Baltimore. If they're the number two seed,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals would potentially host the Dolphins, Patriots, or Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're the number three seed, they would host the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens or the Chargers for the national perspective on last

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<v Speaker 1>week's events, we turned to Peter King from NBC Sports.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been covering the NFL for nearly forty years, beginning

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<v Speaker 1>with a stint on the Bengals beat for the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Inquirer back in nineteen eighty four. Peter, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think of how the NFL and the two teams handled

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<v Speaker 1>the terrifying situation on Monday night. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they could have handled it a lot better. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing they probably could have done is called the game

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit sooner. But you know, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>there was a there was consideration on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 1>league that they wanted to talk to everybody involved. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to the union, they wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the officials, they wanted to talk to the coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to talk internally about what not playing this

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<v Speaker 1>game means. I don't know enough Dan to say whether

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<v Speaker 1>indeed somebody inside the league told both teams, although I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that this happened. We're picking up this game in

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Zach Taylor basically denied it, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>his remarks to the press on Wednesday, so I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>take him at his word, and so I think, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reminded of something when people would be critical of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it took sixty six minutes from the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the injury to the time that the game

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<v Speaker 1>was officially called. I think one thing I'm reminded of

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<v Speaker 1>is in twenty twenty when there was a COVID crisis

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<v Speaker 1>around the league and it was almost week to week

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<v Speaker 1>when you wondered how many games we're going to get called,

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<v Speaker 1>how many games would be played, wouldn't be played? All that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just reminded of the fact that someone told me

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<v Speaker 1>inside the league they're going to be multiple times this

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<v Speaker 1>year where you're going to say, what are they doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And just keep in mind Roger Goodell likes to wait

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<v Speaker 1>until either the last minute or until he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make a decision until he has to, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>so that is when I think about that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation. You're going to hear from everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just going to sit there and you're gonna say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the best decision. And obviously I think you and

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<v Speaker 1>I and most observers thought about a half hour into this.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I heard the three letters CPR. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a guy's heart stopped, it's pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 1>ask those players to continue to play after that. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor showed great compassion in the way he interacted with

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Sean McDermott agreed. He went to the hospital that night

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to visit Tamar Hamlin. Joe Burrow led the Bengals captains

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to the other side of the stadium to visit with

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo captains. What did you think of the leadership

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>displayed by those two guys in particular? Fantastic. I mean,

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, as crazy as it sounds, I almost get

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>emotional when I think about both guys, And it was

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>clear that they were the adults in the room. And

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what Sean McDermott said to Zach Taylor when

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Taylor walked across the field, and basically, Sean McDermott said,

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I belong with my player. I can't coach this game.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>That's basically all you needed to know about the kind

0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of person Sean McDermott is. And and for Zach Taylor,

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor's whole attitude was, Hey, listen, whatever you want,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>We're going to support. And I mean, I'm very oversimplifying

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know how you'd want two better men

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>leading your programs. Do you think the game should be completed? No,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it will be completed, nor do I

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>think it should be I think it is borderline cruel

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>asking the Buffalo Bills to return to Cincinnati to play

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this game on the field where their teammate was felled

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and very nearly died. So I don't think it should

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>be played, and I don't think it will be played.

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So let's get to the Bengals going into Sunday's game

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>against Baltimore. They've won seventh straight, they were off to

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous start on Monday night against the Bills. How

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>do you think they stack up right now among the

0:26:55.200 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>NFL's elite. I think, right now, at this moment, the

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 1>two best teams in football or Cincinnati in San Francisco. Now,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on a given day, Kansas City could beat him both

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>by two touchdowns. You know, on a given day, Buffalo

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>could beat him both. But I'm just saying that right now.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>To me, if I were one of those power rankings people,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I would have San Francisco or Cincinnati as the number

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>one team in football. And I kind of feel for

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. I honestly do I feel for the Ravens

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's clear that five weeks and two days ago,

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 1>or however many days it's been now, that they did

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>not think that Lamar Jackson's injury was going to end

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>his season. And again, I don't know if he's going

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 1>to play on Sunday or not, but it sure looks

0:27:54.760 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>doubtful that he will play and without without Lamar Jackson

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. It's not that I don't give him any chance.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be have to be an absolutely

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>heroic performance by the running game of the Baltimore Ravens

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>at also a defense that has at times really been

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>able to be gouged this year for them to have

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a good chance to win. You might not be a

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>power rankings person, but you are an MVP candidate rankings person,

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're a Football Morning in America column. You've had

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow a listed fourth, I believe for the last

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>few weeks. Why fourth? And were you looking at Monday's

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>game as a possible opportunity for him to jump to

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the top of the list without any question? If Joe

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Burrow had been able to play sixty minutes in this game,

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>or the game had been able to be finished and

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati won the game. There's a chance I can't. It's

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>so hypothetical. I would need to see the game. But

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>part of me would have been thinking, well, you know,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he ended the season winning whatever would be, what nine

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in a row or don't I forget what it would

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>be that they would have won at the end. Plus

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>he would have ended the season with two of those

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>wins being over two of the top four candidates for

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the MVP. And so I would have given significant consideration

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to voting for Burrow. And again, look, I still have

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>some thought to give, but my gut feeling is right

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>now that, barring a major change this weekend, I'm probably

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>going to vote for Patrick Mahomes number one. Now keep

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in mind this is a different year voting for the

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Most Valuable Player. In the past, the fifty media members

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>who have been handed a ballot I happen to be

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>one of them, have voted for one person for the

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Most Valuable Player, the Associated S, which is the keeper

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Holy Grail. This year, change the rules for

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>voting and they are going to have us vote for

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>five people in order so the number one person on

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>your list is going to get ten points. The number

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>two person on your list is going to get five points.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So there's a tremendous amount of importance given to the

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>person who you have number one on your list. So

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be very hard for the person who

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>gets the magic. If one person gets you know, basically

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>gets twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight first place votes,

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be very hard to beat that person.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So look, I think as of now, mahomes as my

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>leader in the clubhouse, and let's see what happens in

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>week eighteen. We're visiting with Peter King from NBC Sports.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have some of the great young stars in

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the NFL right now, and Burrow and Jamar Chase and

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon and others. Is there anybody on this team

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>or anything about this team that you think has flown

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>under the radar and deserves more attention? Louie and Rumo

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what's going to happen in the postseason.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL owners love to hire offensive coaches. Everybody wants to

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>have the next Sean McVeagh, wants to hire the next

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Sean McVeigh. But I do think there are some there

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>would be some reason to really try to really do

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>their best to in essence say that this year, maybe

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>what we should do is we should consider the best

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>coaches overall. Okay, and I think this year, I think

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be unjust if people like Demiko Ryan's of

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers, Leslie Frasier the Buffalo Bills, lou

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>An Arumo of the Cincinnati Bengals, if those guys don't

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 1>get serious and significant consideration when head coaching opportunities are

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>available after the season. Peter, the Chiefs have been a

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl contender since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>By and large throughout the Aaron Rodgers era in Green Bay,

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they have been a Super Bowl contender just about every year.

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you see that in the future for the Bengals

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>as long as Joe Burrows their quarterback. Yes, but I'll

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>give you an asterisk. I think what has happened to

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>this team right now? I remember thirteen months ago or so,

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit longer, I was in Cincinnati and

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>had an extended conversation with Mike Brown about about Burrow

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and about about his team basically, but a lot of

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it was about Burrow. And you know, when I asked

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>him about the reports that I considered quite frankly, pretty

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>reliable that Miami would have traded five number one draft

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>choices for the right to pick Joe Burrow or the

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>equivalent of five number one draft choices, Mike Brown said, right,

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean literally, when that question came out of my mouth,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the answer was, it would not have mattered what they offered.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And look for everybody in Cincinnati, and I understand, I

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>lived there for five years. I covered the Bengals my

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>last year there. I understand the feelings about the Brown

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>family and all that, But you know, I do also

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>understand that Mike Brown absolutely, totally, one hundred percent understands

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>that in many ways, the only thing that matters is

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>whether you've answered the question about your quarterback. If you

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback, you always have a chance. The big

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>thing about Kansas City that is special is that they

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>have a coach who's a metronome, you know, who just

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>wakes up. This is his life, this is what he

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to do. He has trained a general manager in

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Brett Veach, to say, I want you to go out

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>every year and use every opportunity to make us better.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And why do I mention that this year because before

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the trading deadline, when nobody was even thinking about it,

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs went out and stole Cadarius Tony,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a top fifteen talent in the twenty twenty one draft,

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a receiver from Florida who happens to be a little

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>bit of a blockhead, okay, but he's an incredible talent.

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City went out and got him. And you saw,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you've seen a couple of times down the stretch, you know,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>most notably last week, Cadarius Tony was their most important

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive weapon on the field. So, Kansas City, it isn't

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>only Patrick Mahomes. It is the organization, the coach, the

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>ethos that Andy Reid has built there in his one

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>decade atop this team. And I just think that cannot

0:35:53.600 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>be eliminated from consideration. And look, I forget what exactly

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the record is now, but Patrick Mahomes, now this is

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it's an amazing stat. Since the last game of the

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen season, which he started in Denver, you know,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>against the Broncos. Since the last game of the twenty

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>seventeen season, Patrick Mahomes has never lost a Division road game,

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and you'd have to add that up to figure out

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>how many it is, but it's a lot. And that's

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>an absolutely amazing thing to say, especially because that division's

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>gotten a little bit better. Last thing for Peter King

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Bengals versus Ravens Sunday at pay Corpse Stadium. At minimum,

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are playing for the possibility of being the

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>number two seed in the AFC and have the chance

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>at hosting a couple of playoff games. Are you curious

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>what it's going to look like on Sunday? I hadn't

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>even thought of that until you said that, Dan, But

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm very I am curious. I'm quite curious. In fact,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest there's no question the fans will

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>come out and support this team that they have absolutely

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>grown to love over the last two years, which is

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>such a great thing. I mean, I was not in

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati at a great time when I covered him. Anyway,

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>they had had the incredible year to play San Francisco

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl in Detroit, and whenever things got

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>hot in Cincinnati and I was working at the Inquirer.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Then it's an incredible place to be a sports fan.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>But obviously there's been a lot of lean years, and

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the love of the Bengals has come back

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>with a vengeance. It's wonderful to see. I think you're

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>going to see incredible support for the Bengals on Sunday.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll see them go out and play a really,

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 1>really good game. And Dan, you know, there's this kind

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of cliche. I'm not exactly sure why, but it's just

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the way it's fallen that teams that lose the Super

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Bowl tend to go down to slide the next year. Well,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have going in the opposite direction. They're better

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>than when they lost the Super Bowl. And so I

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of look at this team right now and say,

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as Joe Burrows healthy and they

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>can be that attacking offensive team that they are and

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>be a better defense than anybody gives them credit for.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody's going to beat them, but

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>whoever does is going to be a damn good football team. Peter,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I always appreciate your time and your wisdom. Thanks so

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. You're welcome, Dan, Hey listen, have

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.759
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0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not for this week's No the Faux segment. Kagrey

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a Smile won a Super Bowl ring with the Ravens

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and has spent several years on their broadcast team. He

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>joined Dave Lapham and Wayne box Miller this week on

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Game Plan Show. Are from an injury standpoint

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>going into this football game against the Bengals. The injury

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>reports or the estimated injury reports, because walkthroughs are pretty

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>much what's going on now these days. As the season

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>winds on, a lot of rest players, a lot of

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>players who were categorized as rested a little illness. You

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>get Nick Boyle with a little bit of illness. But

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the one that you know jumps out at you is

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson still is not practicing with the knee injury,

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and John Harbaugh has asked about it and didn't really

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>want to address it very much. Is there any truth

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to the rumor that he's got a bone bruise on

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>his patella. Wow. I mean that you're literally the first

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>person that has mentioned something specific when it came to

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the PCL injury. We know that they were saying it's

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a PCL injury, and that you know, first reports it's

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>one to three weeks, which falls under a grade one sprain,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and then it went into three to six week category,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a grade two and depending upon how it

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>continues to go, which is both we're at the full

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>week mark now, it could very well be what you know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, oh, we don't know. Here in Baltimore specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's been, you know, trying to speculate and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly is the degree of the injury. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know your your guess is as good as mine. We

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<v Speaker 1>know this that he has not practiced and stepped on

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the practice field during any portion of the media viewing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we're right now looking at a game

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<v Speaker 1>in which Lamar is going to be held out yet again.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously this team has made the playoffs, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess his first time back is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playoff action, which I think it will be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how it all unfolds. So you think he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>going to be held back. I guess the follow up

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<v Speaker 1>question would be if it's not you know, that type

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<v Speaker 1>of a situation with a more serious injury than initially thought.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not a contractual thing. And you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing a power play of any sort, do you?

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<v Speaker 1>So for him, it doesn't seem like that's how he's

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<v Speaker 1>wired in his DNA of you know, this is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be like the ultimate holding out flash holding

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>in power planning. Um, I've never seen it. And you know,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously you've had guys hold out for an entire year.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You've had guys hold out for training camps. You've had

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, all sorts of things when it comes to

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, different strategies. But this is brand new, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just, I just I don't see that being you know,

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, something that Lamar Jackson would do as far

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 1>as you know who he is and his character, right, Yeah,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know Cosreys. The game against Pittsburgh obviously didn't go

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the way the Ravens wanted. If you looked at one

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>thing that they need to correct before they get to

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati this Sunday, what would be the priority? The main

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<v Speaker 1>priority would be defensively, like that final two four minutes

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>of the game, that four minute offense of whatever team

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that they've faced has just gotten the advantage and edge

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>over this Ravens defense. And I think, you know, a

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>necessary stop, an interception of fumble or force fumble was

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>something that just seals the deal for a Ravens defense

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>that's been playing really, really well. I think on the

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>other side of the ball, it looks like it's gonna

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>be Tyler Huntley again, not exactly sure. You know, it's

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>interesting when you get a new quarterback and you see

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it every single time. Um, I guess purty out in

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, San fran is kind of the exception

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so far to the rule. But teams start to figure

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you out and adjust to your game and your play.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think for Tyler, you know, there's an adjustment

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that's going on that you know, he's now going to

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>have to readjust his game to how teams are playing them. Um,

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>but I think he needs to play way better than

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>what we saw against the Steelers. So yeah, there's there's

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of priorities to go up against. I think

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 1>a Bengals team that's hitting its stride and and look

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>in the part of the AFC representative from last year.

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 1>They're they're looking very poised to be the AFC representative

0:43:53.960 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>again and at worst AFC News Champions. So cocky, No surprise,

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>John Harbaugh, he's an outstanding football coach. Everybody knows that

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>he feels like he has to go old school football

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>with particularly with what's going on at the quarterback position.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>All of his special teams worst case scenario, tied for

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 1>seventh or better. I mean, every single one is in

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the top seven all four categories. They're running the ball,

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they're stopping the run, they're dictating field position. I mean,

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the flying the ointment obviously is quarterback play. But they're

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>still They're two and two in the four games that

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Huntley has played. Even with the struggles that he has

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>had this football team. I mean, John Harbaugh has built

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>this team the way he wants to build it, hasn't he?

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He has, and you know, I think both he and

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>general manager Erica Costa, you know, they they've hung their

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 1>hat on Lamar Jackson and surrounding him with an offensive

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>coordinator that likes to run the football and really feature

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Lamar's talents. But it's a tight end centric offense. That

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>as of now, we we're seeing an offense that hasn't

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>really gotten into its rhythm this year, and it's been

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 1>very inconsistent. So yes, John has done a fine job

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>of you know, putting together a staff and all that,

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's not as guests from the outside looking in,

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it looks like, oh okay, well another typical rapis year.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>They hey, they made the playoffs. I've horrible and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the expectation here in Baltimore, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the generational talent the likes of Lamar Jackson, I think

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>there was an expectation of more than what's actually being

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>put out there on the field that's going to do it.

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