1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:00,890 Speaker 1: What did you have to learn? 2 00:00:01,250 --> 00:00:04,570 Speaker 2: What was the, what was the, was it a lesson 3 00:00:04,670 --> 00:00:05,950 Speaker 2: or it was just the, I don't know. 4 00:00:05,970 --> 00:00:09,049 Speaker 3: I mean, I, what I will say is that I 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,340 Speaker 3: know I'm a fire wife now. Like, you know, I 6 00:00:11,490 --> 00:00:13,410 Speaker 3: definitely learned a lot. 7 00:00:20,510 --> 00:00:22,889 Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for watching. This episode is brought to 8 00:00:22,930 --> 00:00:26,430 Speaker 4: you by Boost Mobile. Today's guest went from a child 9 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:29,470 Speaker 4: star to becoming one of the defining faces of a 10 00:00:29,590 --> 00:00:33,550 Speaker 4: generation of cinema. starting as a leading lady in classics 11 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:35,550 Speaker 4: like Stomp the Yard and Think Like a Man. She 12 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:38,050 Speaker 4: became a household name. And since then, she's stepped behind 13 00:00:38,090 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: the camera as a director and producer on several projects 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 4: of her own. She uses her voice openly and authentically 15 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:48,500 Speaker 4: from speaking on issues that she cares about to making 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,100 Speaker 4: deeply personal choices, even when there is public scrutiny. She 17 00:00:52,140 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: does everything she does with authenticity. She is now returning 18 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: as a series regular for season four of Hulu's Reasonable Doubt. 19 00:00:58,380 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: Please welcome Megan Good to I.R.M. 20 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:02,660 Speaker 3: Hi Meg! 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,860 Speaker 5: How are you? 22 00:01:06,940 --> 00:01:08,130 Speaker 1: Season 4 is good. 23 00:01:08,150 --> 00:01:10,890 Speaker 3: Season 4 is so good. It's really good. 24 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:13,950 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a real hard world right now. 25 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:16,530 Speaker 4: I don't know, season 4 is of shows. You don't 26 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:17,990 Speaker 4: even hear that so much. 27 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:21,390 Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. But this is definitely a special show. 28 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:22,900 Speaker 6: But here we are. It's insane. 29 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,300 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? What's happening? You happy? I'm happy. 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: Every time I see you, you just see your skin's 31 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: always glowing. I receive that. The cheeks are up here 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:31,780 Speaker 1: like this. 33 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 6: I take that. 35 00:01:32,980 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: You know, I take that. 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,300 Speaker 4: Before you came in, they were showing me a clip 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,940 Speaker 4: of you in Friday at 13 years old. 38 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 39 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:40,740 Speaker 1: That was your film debut. 40 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:41,179 Speaker 5: Yeah. 41 00:01:41,740 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: And I thought, because you look like such a little baby. 42 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: You were a baby. 43 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: I was. I was. 44 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,540 Speaker 1: What do you think that girl would say about who 45 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:51,540 Speaker 1: you are now? Hmm. 46 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,420 Speaker 3: Oh, that almost made me emotional. 47 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 6: Really? 48 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,530 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 49 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:58,810 Speaker 5: Because it's been such a journey. I mean, you know, 50 00:01:58,830 --> 00:02:02,810 Speaker 5: life's a journey for everybody. But being a child actor 51 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:05,990 Speaker 5: and growing up where I grew up and just what 52 00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:08,410 Speaker 5: it's taken to get to the place of, you know, 53 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 5: what you said, an introduction of just complete authenticity and 54 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: completely unapologetic and completely in self-love and all of that. 55 00:02:16,540 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: It's been a journey. 56 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:20,150 Speaker 5: So I think she would be really, really proud of 57 00:02:20,190 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 5: the woman that I've become. And yeah, so the other 58 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: day I was like, I, I, I, for me, and 59 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: I say this in a humble way, I've become exactly 60 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,090 Speaker 5: who I hoped that I would be. 61 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,290 Speaker 1: How many people could say that? 62 00:02:31,310 --> 00:02:35,329 Speaker 3: I don't know. But I'm like, okay, girl, you did, you, 63 00:02:35,490 --> 00:02:35,950 Speaker 3: you do it. 64 00:02:36,010 --> 00:02:38,710 Speaker 5: You did it. You're doing it. And, and you're doing it. 65 00:02:39,380 --> 00:02:42,150 Speaker 5: on your terms and being honest and in your skin. 66 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:45,690 Speaker 4: Were you always that like, because women, especially young women 67 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:50,810 Speaker 4: struggle with that, you know, outside noises, outside opinions, expectations, 68 00:02:50,889 --> 00:02:51,550 Speaker 4: all those things. 69 00:02:51,710 --> 00:02:52,130 Speaker 1: Right. 70 00:02:52,210 --> 00:02:53,570 Speaker 5: And I think, I mean, I struggled with all those 71 00:02:53,610 --> 00:02:55,670 Speaker 5: things as well, but I think as a kid, I 72 00:02:55,710 --> 00:03:00,500 Speaker 5: was always very determined because of growing up in a 73 00:03:00,530 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: predominantly white neighborhood. And there was just like lots of racism, 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 5: lots of name-calling and I had to decide inside of myself, like, no. 75 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,030 Speaker 6: I'm it. 76 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:10,150 Speaker 3: Okay. 77 00:03:10,990 --> 00:03:12,570 Speaker 5: And like when I mean, I had I had a 78 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:15,230 Speaker 5: teacher who told me when I was like, I want 79 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:17,950 Speaker 5: to say like 12. And I was like, yeah, I'm 80 00:03:18,010 --> 00:03:19,950 Speaker 5: an actress. And she was like, yeah, I don't know 81 00:03:20,010 --> 00:03:22,090 Speaker 5: if that's going to work out for you, honey. And 82 00:03:22,130 --> 00:03:22,860 Speaker 5: I kind of had to say. 83 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: What a horrible woman. 84 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,140 Speaker 3: Oh, a lot of horrible teachers, believe it or not. 85 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,859 Speaker 3: But I also had a great teacher, Mr. Sharon Dave. 86 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: She was amazing. 87 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:32,700 Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy how teachers could literally change everything? The 88 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,900 Speaker 4: course of somebody's life. Is that what your teacher did 89 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,180 Speaker 4: for you? 90 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,780 Speaker 5: Um, Misha shared naive did because, because I did struggle 91 00:03:40,820 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: with a lot of what was going on. 92 00:03:42,660 --> 00:03:44,809 Speaker 3: She was the one teacher that was like, you know what? Like, 93 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:45,470 Speaker 3: what do you need? 94 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:47,950 Speaker 5: You know, I had lost my work permit right before Friday. 95 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:50,830 Speaker 5: I had been working since I was like four. doing commercials, 96 00:03:50,870 --> 00:03:53,350 Speaker 5: little things here and there. So you're already kind of- Yeah, 97 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:56,050 Speaker 5: I was already immersed in it. But by that age, 98 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:57,570 Speaker 5: I was like, no, I really want to do this. 99 00:03:57,590 --> 00:03:59,550 Speaker 5: This is not just a hobby after school. This is 100 00:03:59,570 --> 00:04:02,750 Speaker 5: something I really want to pursue. And that particular year, 101 00:04:02,770 --> 00:04:04,660 Speaker 5: the year before, I lost my work permit because you 102 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,020 Speaker 5: have to keep a certain grade point average in order 103 00:04:07,060 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: to work if you're under the age of 17. So 104 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:10,820 Speaker 5: that year I lost my work permit and she worked 105 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: with me over the whole summer and helped me bring 106 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: my grades up. And the very next thing I caught 107 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: was Friday. And that was like the beginning of just, 108 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,420 Speaker 5: you know. 109 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: Wow. 110 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:20,580 Speaker 5: But then I also had other teachers that just made 111 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: it really hard for me. And were really just kind 112 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,740 Speaker 5: of challenging for whatever be the reason. And they also, 113 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: they just gave me determination. They just made me go, 114 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 5: you know what? 115 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:32,299 Speaker 6: I'll show you. 116 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: And it's funny that you work at it. It's like, 117 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: I understand it's people's own fears, right? So they're like, 118 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: you know, that's not like being a successful actress, you know. 119 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:41,550 Speaker 4: But the fact that you were doing it at four 120 00:04:41,580 --> 00:04:45,410 Speaker 4: and showing signs of success. some type of calling or 121 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:47,849 Speaker 4: some type of connection to something for somebody to still 122 00:04:47,890 --> 00:04:50,330 Speaker 4: kind of like shit on your dream at that point. 123 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:51,969 Speaker 1: It's really crazy. 124 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:53,530 Speaker 3: You're not very pretty. That same teacher. 125 00:04:53,690 --> 00:04:54,190 Speaker 1: What? 126 00:04:54,510 --> 00:04:56,270 Speaker 4: So this was just a miserable person. 127 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,220 Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about? 128 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: You're not going to make me feel bad about myself. 129 00:05:00,020 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 6: I'm beautiful. 130 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,220 Speaker 4: You made me want to give Mr. Devin off a 131 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,660 Speaker 4: shout out. That was my, what grade was that? Sixth 132 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: grade teacher. We did my, I did a school play. 133 00:05:08,430 --> 00:05:11,010 Speaker 4: And I went up to go, I had to go 134 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:13,089 Speaker 4: do my lines in front of the class. And I 135 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:14,740 Speaker 4: was like, I was auditioning actually. 136 00:05:14,779 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: It was the audition. 137 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: And I started, I got so nervous that I started 138 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,779 Speaker 4: crying because I just. 139 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:21,390 Speaker 1: Was like, I couldn't, I was like overwhelmed. 140 00:05:21,450 --> 00:05:23,089 Speaker 4: And I started crying and I was about to go 141 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:24,910 Speaker 4: run back to my chair and never do that. 142 00:05:25,089 --> 00:05:27,529 Speaker 1: Anything, never do anything again. 143 00:05:27,730 --> 00:05:28,010 Speaker 4: Right. 144 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:30,670 Speaker 1: And he, and he, he was like, go ahead, take a, 145 00:05:30,750 --> 00:05:32,190 Speaker 1: take a minute. He was like, come on, you got it. 146 00:05:32,210 --> 00:05:35,470 Speaker 4: And then he made me do it again. And then 147 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:37,190 Speaker 4: I did it again without crying and I was fine. 148 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:39,060 Speaker 1: And it was okay. Whatever I had learned. 149 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,330 Speaker 6: Okay. 150 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,060 Speaker 1: You got to push through. 151 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: But then the next day he came in and he said, 152 00:05:42,770 --> 00:05:44,630 Speaker 4: I went home. First of all, we don't think teachers 153 00:05:44,650 --> 00:05:46,390 Speaker 4: have real lives, right? He was like, I went home 154 00:05:46,450 --> 00:05:50,170 Speaker 4: and I showed my wife the tape and she said, man, when, 155 00:05:50,210 --> 00:05:52,670 Speaker 4: when you came back after you got scared and you like, 156 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:54,630 Speaker 4: he really like leaned it into me. 157 00:05:54,650 --> 00:05:57,250 Speaker 1: Like you came back and she thought you were so amazing. 158 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:01,180 Speaker 4: And I, and I've never, and just little things like 159 00:06:01,210 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: that with moments with a young person could literally shift 160 00:06:06,529 --> 00:06:07,930 Speaker 4: So when you were talking about your teacher, I don't know, 161 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,089 Speaker 4: it just reminded me, I don't know what he's going 162 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:11,270 Speaker 4: through in his life, but he called on me. 163 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:12,070 Speaker 1: Like, give him a little shout. 164 00:06:12,089 --> 00:06:13,870 Speaker 5: But that's so great, though, because it's like he made 165 00:06:13,910 --> 00:06:15,750 Speaker 5: that moment, and then now here you sit. 166 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:18,539 Speaker 4: Yeah, so even, so as a girl, comfortably, but not 167 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,740 Speaker 4: all the time, but even if I know, even if 168 00:06:20,820 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: I'm not. 169 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I know to get, I know to. 170 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:24,740 Speaker 4: Not be defeated by that. 171 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,540 Speaker 1: I know to get back up and do it again. 172 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 173 00:06:27,260 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: And you learn that from hopefully a parent or a 174 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: teacher or something, but it really does make a difference, right? 175 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,300 Speaker 6: It does. 176 00:06:32,380 --> 00:06:32,940 Speaker 3: It really does. 177 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:34,250 Speaker 1: Do you ever, ever have. 178 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:36,690 Speaker 4: That like a fear or by the way, I just, 179 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:42,290 Speaker 4: your speech at the Hollywood impact awards was so good. 180 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:44,510 Speaker 1: Is that on camera? Can we get like a clip 181 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:46,029 Speaker 1: of that, that we could share that. 182 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: When it's all said and done? 183 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 7: I don't want to be remembered for beauty or for 184 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,900 Speaker 7: decades I put in the game or for any roles 185 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 7: I've played. I want to be remembered as someone who 186 00:06:55,730 --> 00:07:07,050 Speaker 7: loved others well. I want to live a life that 187 00:07:07,070 --> 00:07:10,730 Speaker 7: hopefully has been a small catalyst for kindness, for someone 188 00:07:10,770 --> 00:07:14,550 Speaker 7: choosing compassion, for someone standing up for another person, for 189 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:17,510 Speaker 7: someone deciding to stay when it would have been easier 190 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:18,100 Speaker 7: to walk away. 191 00:07:18,430 --> 00:07:20,150 Speaker 1: And I was just sitting there watching you. 192 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:26,740 Speaker 4: And it's not a regular speech. It's like a speech 193 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: with your heart. Your heart, your faith, your love is 194 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: in the audience. 195 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:33,710 Speaker 1: Gleaming, watching you. 196 00:07:34,510 --> 00:07:37,030 Speaker 4: You just seem so free in that moment to be 197 00:07:37,070 --> 00:07:38,990 Speaker 4: so kind of vulnerable and share in that moment. 198 00:07:39,090 --> 00:07:42,370 Speaker 1: Is that always the case? Do you always feel that? 199 00:07:42,630 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: That's how I have to lead. Because I'm actually terrified 200 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,620 Speaker 5: of giving speeches. 201 00:07:46,780 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 6: Really? 202 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:48,460 Speaker 1: Terrified. 203 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: I've gotten better. 204 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:52,820 Speaker 5: But like, I remember I gave a speech at this 205 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: college and I, it was my first one really. And 206 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: I was just so scared. And they were like, you 207 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: just need to be up there for 10 minutes. And 208 00:07:57,660 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: I was like, can we just do a panel? And 209 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:01,300 Speaker 5: like someone talked to me and I can elaborate, you know, 210 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,100 Speaker 5: and they were like, no, we need a speech. And so, Um, 211 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: I gave the speech and girl was just like sweating 212 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,460 Speaker 5: and so nervous and all the things. And, and at 213 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 5: the end of it, I was talking about how you 214 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,180 Speaker 5: can push through and how you can do anything. And 215 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,580 Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I just came up here 216 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: and did a speech and I was terrified where I 217 00:08:16,140 --> 00:08:17,490 Speaker 5: got off the stage. I was up there for like 218 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:20,270 Speaker 5: three minutes. I, I thought I was up there for 219 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:22,670 Speaker 5: like a full 10 minutes, but I had cue cards 220 00:08:22,730 --> 00:08:24,330 Speaker 5: and everything, but I was just, I guess I. 221 00:08:24,330 --> 00:08:24,990 Speaker 3: Was really nervous. 222 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:29,770 Speaker 5: But, but yeah, so, um, it's just, yeah, speeches are 223 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:32,689 Speaker 5: not really my thing, but in that moment I knew, um, 224 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:35,819 Speaker 5: I knew what I wanted to say and I knew 225 00:08:35,860 --> 00:08:37,459 Speaker 5: what was in my heart. And I know that if 226 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,660 Speaker 5: I speak from the heart that I can't lose, it's just, 227 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 5: it's honest and it's my truth and the right people 228 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,300 Speaker 5: will connect to it, you know? And I feel like 229 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 5: you can't, you can't lose that way if you're coming 230 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 5: from a truthful place. 231 00:08:49,020 --> 00:08:50,730 Speaker 1: You had to learn that at some point though, right? 232 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,950 Speaker 1: That didn't just happen to you that night. I'm sure 233 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:54,110 Speaker 1: over time. 234 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:59,490 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Because if I'm being honest, part of what 235 00:08:59,530 --> 00:09:01,810 Speaker 5: scares me about speeches is the same thing that scares 236 00:09:01,850 --> 00:09:04,170 Speaker 5: me about presenting. And I don't know if you remember this. 237 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:07,810 Speaker 5: I think you were there that night. It was Black 238 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:11,380 Speaker 5: Girls Rock. And it was my first time presenting by myself. 239 00:09:12,130 --> 00:09:14,859 Speaker 5: And I was so nervous. And I was giving an 240 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: award to Janelle Monae the year that she had just 241 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:19,940 Speaker 5: came out. And I could barely pronounce her name. And 242 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: I got up on stage and I was 30. And 243 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: it was the first time that I was like, oh 244 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:27,500 Speaker 5: my God, I can't read this teleprompter. Like, I can't 245 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:30,930 Speaker 5: see this. And I was just like, I'm sorry, can 246 00:09:30,950 --> 00:09:32,610 Speaker 5: we start again? And I went backstage and I was like, 247 00:09:32,670 --> 00:09:33,380 Speaker 5: oh my God, what do I do? 248 00:09:33,410 --> 00:09:33,790 Speaker 6: What do I do? 249 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:35,420 Speaker 5: What do I do? And they called me again and 250 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,460 Speaker 5: I came back out and I was like, uh, can 251 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,260 Speaker 5: we start over? And then I went back there. I 252 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,780 Speaker 5: was like, oh my God, I can't read it. 253 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: What do we do? 254 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:44,540 Speaker 3: And I just, and then I went back out there. 255 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,380 Speaker 1: Oh my God. 256 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,750 Speaker 3: And I was like, and I was like, Janelle Moniette 257 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:51,770 Speaker 3: is a girl. 258 00:09:52,190 --> 00:09:55,270 Speaker 5: And I made up the entire speech from just little 259 00:09:55,309 --> 00:09:58,150 Speaker 5: pieces that I remember looking over in the car. It 260 00:09:58,170 --> 00:10:01,219 Speaker 5: was so bad and so mortifying. And I like went 261 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,580 Speaker 5: backstage and I just cried. And then I like went 262 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:06,780 Speaker 5: out to the crowd and I just like apologized to 263 00:10:06,820 --> 00:10:08,610 Speaker 5: her profusely. I was like, I'm so sorry. 264 00:10:08,890 --> 00:10:09,850 Speaker 3: She was like, no, it's okay. 265 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,610 Speaker 5: And I was like, no, it's really not. Cause this 266 00:10:11,630 --> 00:10:13,510 Speaker 5: was a special moment for you. And I, you know, 267 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:17,290 Speaker 5: botched it. So after that, I was just like traumatized. 268 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:20,130 Speaker 5: And then like the next time I presented somewhere, I 269 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:22,189 Speaker 5: think it was like the people's choice in the car. 270 00:10:22,210 --> 00:10:24,310 Speaker 3: I had a panic attack on the way there. I 271 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:26,150 Speaker 3: literally had like a panic attack and I was like, 272 00:10:26,170 --> 00:10:27,830 Speaker 3: you got to get your shit together. Can I say that? 273 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:28,209 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course. 274 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:29,690 Speaker 5: You got to get your shit together. I was like, 275 00:10:29,710 --> 00:10:32,110 Speaker 5: this girl, you cannot be like this. And so I 276 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:33,610 Speaker 5: got up there, it went better. And from there, I 277 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:36,390 Speaker 5: kind of like started pushing forward and then started working 278 00:10:36,429 --> 00:10:37,150 Speaker 5: my way into speeches. 279 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:39,870 Speaker 3: But it was like a progression because it was just 280 00:10:39,950 --> 00:10:40,670 Speaker 3: not my thing. 281 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Oh my God. To know that. And then to see 282 00:10:43,010 --> 00:10:45,500 Speaker 1: you stand in that moment. 283 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,819 Speaker 3: Yeah. 284 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: And I just was so like, I don't know. I 285 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,190 Speaker 1: was blown away by it. 286 00:10:51,380 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 287 00:10:51,940 --> 00:10:54,180 Speaker 4: Because it's one thing to like read a prompter and 288 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,590 Speaker 4: read lines and do an intro to somebody's name, but 289 00:10:56,620 --> 00:10:59,470 Speaker 4: it's another thing to go up there and just kind 290 00:10:59,510 --> 00:11:00,710 Speaker 4: of like share your truth. 291 00:11:01,050 --> 00:11:03,930 Speaker 1: And, you know, just, it was really, it was really impactful. 292 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:06,309 Speaker 1: It was beautiful. Now you're like a pro. 293 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:08,059 Speaker 3: Thank you. I received that. 294 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,700 Speaker 1: How do you go from that? 295 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,820 Speaker 4: Because I'm sure there's people out there, man, that have, 296 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: whether it's speaking publicly or whatever their thing is. 297 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: That's funny. 298 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,460 Speaker 1: It's like the Mr. Devenoff thing, right? 299 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,569 Speaker 4: It's like when you're like afraid of something, it's like, 300 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:25,470 Speaker 4: because you could have told your team, I'm never presenting again. 301 00:11:25,490 --> 00:11:28,709 Speaker 1: I'm just going to act. I'll show up on set. 302 00:11:28,929 --> 00:11:29,770 Speaker 1: I'll read the lines. 303 00:11:29,830 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: But you could have easily said, please don't ever book 304 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,020 Speaker 4: me to do, you know, but you didn't do that. 305 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: No, because I didn't want it to defeat me. And 306 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: then I was like, the worst already happened. 307 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. The absolute worst case scenario that happened. 308 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Well, there's nowhere to go. 309 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:47,300 Speaker 1: But up from here. 310 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,459 Speaker 5: And I was just like, I just I just have 311 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:50,900 Speaker 5: to push through because I don't want it to have 312 00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:53,530 Speaker 5: I don't want to have that fear. And the worst 313 00:11:53,550 --> 00:11:55,110 Speaker 5: thing that could happen is I can embarrass myself. 314 00:11:55,170 --> 00:11:55,829 Speaker 3: I've already done that. 315 00:11:55,970 --> 00:11:56,770 Speaker 1: But what did you do next? 316 00:11:56,809 --> 00:11:58,270 Speaker 4: Did you, was there like a, I don't know, is 317 00:11:58,309 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: there any tricks to like fears or when you're nervous, 318 00:12:01,780 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: is it a prayer? 319 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Is it a definitely a prayer? 320 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:06,660 Speaker 5: Um, and then being like, you know, let me go 321 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,460 Speaker 5: in advance to like, let me see the teleprompter. 322 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: Let me see the size, the word preparation, you know, 323 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: really reading over it. 324 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: And then when I started to do speeches, really like 325 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,060 Speaker 5: writing it and really just going through all the beats 326 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 5: that I want to cover and, you know, And then 327 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,930 Speaker 5: just knowing, just come from the heart and you'll be okay. 328 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:28,390 Speaker 1: Yeah. 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Oh, so you've been, you got the first year down. 376 00:14:16,050 --> 00:14:16,309 Speaker 5: Yeah. 377 00:14:16,590 --> 00:14:18,390 Speaker 1: They say the first, is the first year the hardest 378 00:14:18,450 --> 00:14:19,530 Speaker 1: or the best? Which one? 379 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:24,210 Speaker 5: They say it's the hardest. I think for us, especially 380 00:14:24,250 --> 00:14:26,660 Speaker 5: as the last few months, It's been really amazing. 381 00:14:26,780 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: Really? 382 00:14:27,070 --> 00:14:28,109 Speaker 3: It's been really fun. 383 00:14:28,130 --> 00:14:31,230 Speaker 5: I think the way that we've gotten to know each 384 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:33,850 Speaker 5: other even more, the friendship that we've built because the 385 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: love was already there. The lover was already there, you know, 386 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: all that stuff. But the friendship has become really, really 387 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,110 Speaker 5: amazing and a lot of fun. 388 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: Just a lot of fun. 389 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,100 Speaker 1: What is the key to that? 390 00:14:44,130 --> 00:14:44,700 Speaker 5: How? Why? 391 00:14:44,770 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Because I would imagine you had a friendship before. 392 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: We did, but it's different. 393 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,460 Speaker 1: It's just because it's the everyday. I think it is. 394 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:54,180 Speaker 5: I think it's also the marriage. It's like, all right, it's, 395 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,180 Speaker 5: it's me, you know, it's us against the world, you know? And, 396 00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:01,700 Speaker 5: and we're just the way that we're locked in. There's 397 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: just a lot of joy and fun. It's just literally 398 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: like being married to your best friend. And like, it 399 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,330 Speaker 5: reminds me of like my best friend, Amy. like when 400 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:11,750 Speaker 5: we were like 16, 17, 18 years old, like I 401 00:15:11,790 --> 00:15:13,310 Speaker 5: used to think at that time, I was like, damn, 402 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:14,610 Speaker 5: this is the best time of my life. I'm having 403 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:16,530 Speaker 5: so much fun with my best friend. And I would 404 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:19,310 Speaker 5: sleep at her house and all that stuff. And then 405 00:15:19,330 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 5: I made a conscious decision to decide every season of 406 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,980 Speaker 5: my life would be the best time of my life. 407 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 5: But this is one of the first times where it 408 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: feels like that good. 409 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, we're adults. 410 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 5: Like, I can't believe like someone like let us live 411 00:15:32,020 --> 00:15:35,570 Speaker 5: in a house together and like do what we want, 412 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:36,970 Speaker 5: like make, we want the kitchen. 413 00:15:37,010 --> 00:15:39,540 Speaker 3: Let's not burn the house down. Like, So it's, it's 414 00:15:39,580 --> 00:15:40,140 Speaker 3: really fun. 415 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:47,670 Speaker 1: That is so cute. That's really cute. I love, I loved, 416 00:15:48,590 --> 00:15:48,890 Speaker 1: I don't know. 417 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:50,850 Speaker 4: I wonder this about you because we've been talking about 418 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:53,930 Speaker 4: your authenticity and you're following your faith and knowing who 419 00:15:53,970 --> 00:15:57,010 Speaker 4: you are, you know, how your relationship started and, and 420 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:59,670 Speaker 4: so much, I don't know, just. 421 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:00,940 Speaker 3: Eyeballs and crazy. 422 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:01,780 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 423 00:16:01,820 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: It was a crazy time, which we don't have to 424 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,620 Speaker 4: go back into that now. But, but the idea that 425 00:16:06,140 --> 00:16:08,990 Speaker 4: when you're getting to know somebody, When you first start 426 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:13,350 Speaker 4: dating somebody, there's always like, you're getting to know them. 427 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,450 Speaker 4: You're not committed to them yet, but you're getting to 428 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: know him in a noisy period. 429 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:21,820 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think what's interesting is it only brought 430 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,460 Speaker 5: us closer because we had to make a conscious decision 431 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: to drown out the noise. We had to make a 432 00:16:26,580 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: conscious decision to protect each other, to check on each other, 433 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 5: to be in tune with each other. And there was 434 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:35,820 Speaker 5: definitely a lot of noise and it really tried to 435 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,210 Speaker 5: be noisy, but When I tell you I'm a little 436 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:42,570 Speaker 5: determined spirit, when I've decided, and I'm like me and God, 437 00:16:42,650 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: and I'm like, Lord, are you, is this, okay, cool. 438 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,620 Speaker 5: If we're here, that's it. I don't care about nothing else, period. 439 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: So for me, it was easier for me. For Jonathan, 440 00:16:54,260 --> 00:16:58,260 Speaker 5: a lot of it was new. I had been through 441 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,830 Speaker 5: a few little kind of like storms that I thank 442 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:02,950 Speaker 5: God for, because I'm like, that prepared me. Because by 443 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:05,129 Speaker 5: the time I got to this place, I had already 444 00:17:05,210 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 5: been through a lot of just different public things and 445 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,190 Speaker 5: people picking at me and people deciding who I was 446 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:13,350 Speaker 5: or deciding that I was the bad guy or whatever 447 00:17:13,369 --> 00:17:15,690 Speaker 5: it was. And so when I got to this place, 448 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:18,090 Speaker 5: I just was so in my skin, even though I 449 00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:20,989 Speaker 5: was still healing, I was just like, I just know 450 00:17:21,010 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 5: what I know that I know. So that's, what's that, 451 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 5: you know, um, for him, it was, it was, you know, 452 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 5: it was, it was blindsiding, you know, it was really, 453 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:32,179 Speaker 5: it was like, you know, you. 454 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 4: Were probably like, you were probably like an angel to 455 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,450 Speaker 4: him to be able to have, Not just because obviously 456 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: he had fallen in love with you, but somebody who 457 00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: had already those experiences who could come to the table 458 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:46,860 Speaker 4: with that type of understanding of how to navigate those 459 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,980 Speaker 4: waters was probably really helpful to him. 460 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:53,300 Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely was a blessing to both of us 461 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,939 Speaker 5: because even still, I was still navigating it as we 462 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 5: were going, you know. And then he's been an angel 463 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,790 Speaker 5: to me in a totally different way. What I was 464 00:18:03,810 --> 00:18:07,889 Speaker 5: dealing with privately that people aren't really aware of, he 465 00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:12,100 Speaker 5: brought me through and breathed life back into me. 466 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: He's such a godsend. 467 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:19,740 Speaker 5: And yeah, we were really what each other needed. And 468 00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 5: then that's just constantly grown. So I would say the 469 00:18:22,619 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 5: first year of marriage has been amazing because We started 470 00:18:26,380 --> 00:18:29,100 Speaker 5: at step one and we slid all. 471 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,530 Speaker 3: The way down to step eight and nine and, you know. 472 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:34,490 Speaker 5: And then got to come back and start doing two 473 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:37,170 Speaker 5: and three and four. And so when you've already done 474 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,490 Speaker 5: eight and nine and ten, it's like. 475 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:41,409 Speaker 1: This is the fun part. Now you get to have 476 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:41,909 Speaker 1: some fun. 477 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:44,210 Speaker 3: Now we get to breathe and like, you know. 478 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:46,980 Speaker 4: And work together and do really cool little projects and 479 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,620 Speaker 4: things like that. 480 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah. 481 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 482 00:18:54,570 --> 00:18:56,730 Speaker 4: What is that thing where you talk about if it's 483 00:18:56,790 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 4: okay with God and you're locked in and he's locked 484 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: in with you? 485 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:03,580 Speaker 1: How do you, how do you get those answers? 486 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,540 Speaker 5: Prayer and listening and being honest with yourself, not convincing 487 00:19:09,580 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: yourself that you're hearing what you want to hear. 488 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: I feel like God's telling me and then I'm like, 489 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: but is that me telling me? 490 00:19:16,609 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: Right. 491 00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:19,530 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get a little, a little, a little confused 492 00:19:19,550 --> 00:19:20,209 Speaker 1: in those waters. 493 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:23,350 Speaker 5: I think for me, it's, It's not a general rule 494 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:25,850 Speaker 5: of thumb, but it often works. Often what you don't 495 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:27,590 Speaker 5: want to do is what you're supposed to do. And 496 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:29,429 Speaker 5: often what you want to do is probably not what 497 00:19:29,470 --> 00:19:30,060 Speaker 5: you should do. 498 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:30,670 Speaker 1: Really? 499 00:19:30,930 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: Oftentimes. 500 00:19:31,820 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: That is disappointing. 501 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,979 Speaker 5: But what you find every time that you do that 502 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: is you end up exactly where you're supposed to be. 503 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:41,780 Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, thank God. 504 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,270 Speaker 5: Because if I did it my way, I'd have watched 505 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:49,060 Speaker 5: the whole thing, you know? But I think also sometimes 506 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,659 Speaker 5: just praying and just, I mean, I feel my spirit. 507 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:55,420 Speaker 5: I feel God telling me like, yes. Other times I'm like, 508 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:57,900 Speaker 5: I don't know if I can hear you. So then 509 00:19:57,940 --> 00:19:59,460 Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I'm going to make a move and 510 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,570 Speaker 5: you go make it very clear once I make that move. 511 00:20:01,650 --> 00:20:02,369 Speaker 3: And he always does. 512 00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:03,090 Speaker 4: Wow. 513 00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:05,330 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by people. 514 00:20:05,369 --> 00:20:07,570 Speaker 4: This has come up easily three or four times on 515 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: this podcast when I'm talking to people about this. There's 516 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: some people who connect differently and actually can hear his voice. 517 00:20:16,619 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can hear his voice. 518 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:18,300 Speaker 1: You can? 519 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:18,500 Speaker 6: Yeah. 520 00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:22,830 Speaker 4: That is fascinating to me because I feel very connected, 521 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:25,950 Speaker 4: especially when I'm trying, when I'm working on it and 522 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:27,709 Speaker 4: being diligent about prayer and things like that. 523 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:28,410 Speaker 1: I feel connected. 524 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:32,350 Speaker 4: But hearing a voice, I don't hear actual voice. Where 525 00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:37,100 Speaker 4: people say... Tasha Smith, Tamar Braxton. 526 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: Who else? There was somebody recently. Miss Pat was just on. 527 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,619 Speaker 4: She just adopted. Was it one more child? It's like 528 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:47,310 Speaker 4: her eighth child. She's adopted eight children. She said, I 529 00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:51,810 Speaker 4: didn't want no more kids. But God said. And so 530 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:53,690 Speaker 4: she just did it. She just adopted the kids because 531 00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:56,030 Speaker 4: God said. And I said, well, what does that feel like? 532 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:58,390 Speaker 1: How do you know? It's actual voice. And she can 533 00:20:58,450 --> 00:20:58,889 Speaker 1: hear it. 534 00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:02,220 Speaker 3: You can actually. And sometimes it's different. Sometimes it's loud. 535 00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:06,090 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's really quiet. Sometimes you can hear, feel it. 536 00:21:06,670 --> 00:21:07,270 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 537 00:21:07,410 --> 00:21:08,310 Speaker 1: Hear, feel it, I get. 538 00:21:08,410 --> 00:21:10,409 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. But there's, I mean, that's so crazy. 539 00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:12,649 Speaker 1: I've been trying hard. I've been listening, trying to hear 540 00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:13,590 Speaker 1: actual voice. 541 00:21:13,609 --> 00:21:15,669 Speaker 3: Well, but I mean, look, we got time. 542 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:16,330 Speaker 5: We got time. 543 00:21:16,410 --> 00:21:16,869 Speaker 6: I'm willing. 544 00:21:16,890 --> 00:21:17,650 Speaker 3: We have plenty of time. 545 00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:19,770 Speaker 1: I keep talking about it because I think I'm willing it. 546 00:21:19,869 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: I keep wanting to hear it. 547 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,060 Speaker 3: Well, now it's going to happen. 548 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: You think so? 549 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: I think so. 550 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: I hope so. 551 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 552 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,300 Speaker 1: I find it fascinating. 553 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: And everybody who tells me about the actual voice, the 554 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: description is similar. 555 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:30,420 Speaker 2: Yeah. 556 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,500 Speaker 1: So that's interesting to me always. 557 00:21:33,619 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: It's so funny because I was thinking just as we 558 00:21:36,619 --> 00:21:41,389 Speaker 5: were talking about this, how there was a period of 559 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:45,170 Speaker 5: time where I heard God a lot. And then when 560 00:21:45,210 --> 00:21:47,690 Speaker 5: I was going through like the roughest season, I actually 561 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:48,290 Speaker 5: didn't hear. 562 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:50,740 Speaker 3: God at all. I was like, where are you? What's happening? 563 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 564 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 5: And I was so mad because I, because in my 565 00:21:53,550 --> 00:21:55,909 Speaker 5: mind I was like, well, there's some things that you 566 00:21:55,950 --> 00:21:57,330 Speaker 5: told me to do when I did, and that didn't 567 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:58,949 Speaker 5: work out so well. So now I'm mad at you 568 00:21:58,970 --> 00:22:00,530 Speaker 5: and now I can't even hear you what's going on, 569 00:22:00,590 --> 00:22:04,770 Speaker 5: you know? Um, and it's so interesting because, because now, 570 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:09,220 Speaker 5: you know, coming full circle, starting to hear God again. And, 571 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,580 Speaker 5: and also the, our dynamic has changed, you know, like the, 572 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:16,790 Speaker 5: it's like, you all, I think we always think that 573 00:22:16,810 --> 00:22:18,790 Speaker 5: we're in a deep place with them, but then like 574 00:22:18,850 --> 00:22:21,070 Speaker 5: things keep shifting and then you just go deeper and 575 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:23,100 Speaker 5: deeper and deeper. And you're like, well, I didn't even 576 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,100 Speaker 5: know this was available to me. So I say all 577 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: that to say that I'm sure that you will continue. 578 00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 579 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure you will. 580 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited. 581 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: We're all growing. 582 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,100 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. 583 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,980 Speaker 4: What, what is, I'm sure you've talked about so many 584 00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 4: things and so many, but what do you like define 585 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:43,179 Speaker 4: as the, as the low, as the most challenging that 586 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,250 Speaker 4: you had to get up from? Like when you look 587 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:50,410 Speaker 4: at the history of your life, and I know, you know. 588 00:22:51,530 --> 00:22:55,340 Speaker 3: Well, one of the hardest things is watching some of 589 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,190 Speaker 3: what Jonathan went through. 590 00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:57,230 Speaker 4: Oh, really? 591 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:01,899 Speaker 5: You know, that was really heartbreaking. You know, when you 592 00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: know what I know, and you wish other people knew 593 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,540 Speaker 5: it too, you know, that for me was really, really, 594 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: really hard to watch. 595 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:15,030 Speaker 4: Um, because of what it was doing to him or 596 00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:19,390 Speaker 4: because of like what it says about the world or people. 597 00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:21,310 Speaker 3: You know? 598 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:24,230 Speaker 6: Um, and. 599 00:23:25,369 --> 00:23:28,169 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's probably one of the hardest times. 600 00:23:28,190 --> 00:23:31,010 Speaker 5: And then there's been other hard times, like, you know, 601 00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:33,430 Speaker 5: when I, when I was going through the divorce, cause 602 00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:35,830 Speaker 5: it wasn't so much the divorce itself. 603 00:23:36,490 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: It was more the God part of it. 604 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:38,209 Speaker 6: Hmm. 605 00:23:38,770 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: Um, because God had told me to marry that person, 606 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,139 Speaker 5: you know? And so I was just like, I just 607 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,060 Speaker 5: don't understand why this would be the outcome. Now I understand. 608 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: And all of it's a blessing, you know, and you know, 609 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,980 Speaker 5: he's well and his wife's well, and I wish them 610 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:56,090 Speaker 5: every beautiful, positive, amazing thing. And I'm well, and my 611 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:59,850 Speaker 5: husband's well, and you know, and so it's, it's, it's 612 00:24:00,050 --> 00:24:02,950 Speaker 5: interesting because when it does come full circle and some 613 00:24:02,970 --> 00:24:05,260 Speaker 5: things never make sense, but for me, this makes sense. 614 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,060 Speaker 2: You know, um, what did you have to learn? What 615 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,419 Speaker 2: was the, what was the, was it a lesson or 616 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: it was just a. 617 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,750 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I, what I will say 618 00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:16,990 Speaker 3: is that I know I'm a fire wife now. 619 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:24,300 Speaker 5: Like, you know, I definitely learned a lot. Um, and, 620 00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: and then also I learned a lot about myself, you know, 621 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: a lot about, um, some of the traumas that I 622 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,830 Speaker 5: had in the past. Um, some of the things that 623 00:24:34,170 --> 00:24:38,300 Speaker 5: informed how I moved or what I thought, um, I 624 00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 5: definitely became less religious, I guess you could say. I'm 625 00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:47,780 Speaker 5: definitely Jesus freak through, through and through and through. Um, and, 626 00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:50,939 Speaker 5: and I'm saved and I'm a Christian, but I realized, like, 627 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,190 Speaker 5: as I said, my dynamic with God changed so much. 628 00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:56,429 Speaker 5: I had this experience where I was talking to God 629 00:24:56,590 --> 00:25:01,890 Speaker 5: and I said, um, Lord, am I getting it right? Hmm. 630 00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:07,830 Speaker 5: And all I heard was, it's okay. And I was 631 00:25:07,869 --> 00:25:10,690 Speaker 5: just like, and it suddenly occurred to me, I wasn't 632 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:12,590 Speaker 5: getting it right. And I wasn't getting it wrong. 633 00:25:13,109 --> 00:25:15,130 Speaker 1: It's okay. 634 00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:18,530 Speaker 5: And I felt this feeling of like, I saw myself 635 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:20,770 Speaker 5: just like I was up in the air and I 636 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:22,659 Speaker 5: was with God. 637 00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:23,890 Speaker 3: In this space. 638 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: And all of a sudden I just opened my arms 639 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,100 Speaker 5: and I just fell back. And it's just like, I 640 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: went falling and I was completely free. 641 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:35,139 Speaker 3: You know? And so I don't. 642 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 5: Think I could have gotten to that place without being 643 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 5: in the other place. That broke me down to such 644 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 5: a point that everything was questionable and everything was like, well, 645 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,899 Speaker 5: this doesn't make sense to me now. And I've got 646 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,660 Speaker 5: to a point where I was like, I'm mad at you, Lord. 647 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,580 Speaker 5: I don't trust you anymore. I don't trust you. Oh, wow. 648 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,290 Speaker 3: Like you bamboozled me. That's how I feel. And I 649 00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:55,790 Speaker 3: don't understand, you know? 650 00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,770 Speaker 5: But getting to a place where I had to get 651 00:25:59,869 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: really real with God and really, stop like, you know, 652 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,870 Speaker 5: showing up like, Oh, I'm doing everything right. I'm trying 653 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,609 Speaker 5: to do this and trying to like, just, I am 654 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:11,990 Speaker 5: there and I am raw and I am, I don't know. 655 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:15,690 Speaker 5: And you have to tell me because, you know, um, 656 00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:17,570 Speaker 5: and it never would have turned me away from God. 657 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:20,369 Speaker 5: I was just mad at him, you know? And, and 658 00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:22,670 Speaker 5: he was kind of like, energy was kind of like, good. 659 00:26:22,730 --> 00:26:24,410 Speaker 5: Now we really talking good for you. 660 00:26:24,609 --> 00:26:25,109 Speaker 6: Wow. 661 00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:26,910 Speaker 3: Let's get there, you know? 662 00:26:26,990 --> 00:26:30,070 Speaker 5: So, um, I don't think I could have gotten to 663 00:26:30,109 --> 00:26:33,750 Speaker 5: so many places without that experience, that experience as rough 664 00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:36,270 Speaker 5: as it was, it was such a blessing to me. 665 00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:40,770 Speaker 3: And I'm a better woman, a better wife, a better. 666 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:42,129 Speaker 1: Person, a fire wife. 667 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:42,610 Speaker 5: Yeah. 668 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:44,070 Speaker 3: A fire. 669 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:47,290 Speaker 1: What is a fire wife? What makes a fire wife? 670 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:48,609 Speaker 1: I have to know. 671 00:26:49,369 --> 00:26:52,070 Speaker 4: Well, for you, for you, not for everybody, but why, 672 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:54,810 Speaker 4: why you do, do you feel like that? I, I 673 00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:58,890 Speaker 4: just feel so in tune with him. 674 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: And his needs and who he really is at the 675 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 5: core and able to see like what informs what, and 676 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,860 Speaker 5: what is this about? And how can I, you know, 677 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,580 Speaker 5: be of service to him this way? And how can 678 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,870 Speaker 5: I cover him this way as a wife? And, you know, 679 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,250 Speaker 5: I just, and I'm, and I'm also in a different space. 680 00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:22,830 Speaker 5: So I just love to just be home and up 681 00:27:22,930 --> 00:27:25,909 Speaker 5: under him and just cooking and like, I don't want 682 00:27:25,930 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: to do nothing else. 683 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: And like, I miss him right now. 684 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: Like, I wish I could get on the plane when 685 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,500 Speaker 5: I leave here and just go and just be in 686 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:31,940 Speaker 5: his arms. 687 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,620 Speaker 1: You guys were supposed to do the show together. 688 00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: I think at one point we were booked, something happened, whatever. 689 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:38,420 Speaker 1: It's fine. We'll do it one day. We'll do it 690 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: one day. So you don't have to be away. You 691 00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: can do press together. 692 00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:44,100 Speaker 3: Yeah. 693 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 5: I just feel, I just feel, um, more equipped, you know, 694 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,300 Speaker 5: I feel like, I know something that I can now 695 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:58,300 Speaker 5: expand upon and make specifically for him. And, and also 696 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: I feel more in my skin and more aware of 697 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,169 Speaker 5: myself and my needs and who, you know, and I'm 698 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:07,330 Speaker 5: able to articulate and he's able to articulate, we're able 699 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:10,470 Speaker 5: to actually listen and like not be defensive and like, just, 700 00:28:10,490 --> 00:28:13,070 Speaker 5: you know, it's just, it's just wonderful. Right. 701 00:28:13,090 --> 00:28:14,330 Speaker 3: So, Yeah, it's fire. 702 00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I love that for you. 703 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: And you're pretty great at a few other things, too, 704 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:21,420 Speaker 4: besides being a wife, right? 705 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:21,700 Speaker 5: Yeah. 706 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Do you feel like. 707 00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:26,740 Speaker 4: You're deep in your, like, I don't know, because now 708 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,340 Speaker 4: it's not just acting, it's directing. 709 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,300 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, you put a few different 710 00:28:30,340 --> 00:28:30,939 Speaker 1: hats on. 711 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,899 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're in your stride and your 712 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:33,740 Speaker 4: bag with that? 713 00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:34,460 Speaker 1: I do. 714 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,370 Speaker 3: I mean, I really love directing, you know. I know 715 00:28:38,410 --> 00:28:39,550 Speaker 3: I love it because I would do it for free. 716 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:39,990 Speaker 6: Yeah. 717 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:43,510 Speaker 5: Like, I give you all 12, 15 hours of the 718 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:46,510 Speaker 5: day for free every day for months on out. 719 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:47,470 Speaker 3: That's how much I love it. 720 00:28:47,530 --> 00:28:48,650 Speaker 1: What was the first thing you directed? 721 00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: First thing I directed, I started doing music videos. 722 00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh, was it Video Girl? 723 00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 5: No. 724 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: No, no, I produced that. 725 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: You produced that. 726 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:56,700 Speaker 3: That's one of the first things I produced that you 727 00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:57,380 Speaker 3: came and played. 728 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,500 Speaker 1: Yay! I got to see. But I felt like you 729 00:28:59,540 --> 00:29:01,460 Speaker 1: were in your... You were a producer. 730 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: I was in my producing bag. 731 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:04,180 Speaker 1: But I feel like you were in the directing bag 732 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:06,020 Speaker 1: a little bit, too. Like, I think... Well, I think 733 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: that's why. Maybe internally, like, you were starting to. 734 00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:10,030 Speaker 3: I think so. 735 00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:12,910 Speaker 5: Because when you're on set and you see things and 736 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:14,330 Speaker 5: you're like, well, if we just do this, we could 737 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:16,850 Speaker 5: actually get this and that, and this would actually be 738 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:19,729 Speaker 5: a beautiful like floating shot. And like, well, I don't 739 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:21,590 Speaker 5: know why we're not putting this in this, you know, 740 00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:23,910 Speaker 5: and it's just like, you see all the things or like, 741 00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:25,630 Speaker 5: you're like, oh, this is a fight scene. You know, 742 00:29:25,650 --> 00:29:27,989 Speaker 5: if you did, if you started with this, that would 743 00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:30,130 Speaker 5: actually make that work better, you know? And so I 744 00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:32,990 Speaker 5: already was in that space and in that mindset. So 745 00:29:33,010 --> 00:29:37,020 Speaker 5: it was a natural progression, to move into directing. But 746 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,459 Speaker 5: what's interesting is, is acting. I, I chose it as 747 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,260 Speaker 5: a child, you know, but I was a child. And 748 00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:46,740 Speaker 5: so it's always been my first love and I, I 749 00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: will always love it. And I will always be in 750 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,110 Speaker 5: front of the camera to some degree, but directing, I 751 00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:55,390 Speaker 5: chose as an adult when I knew myself. 752 00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:56,970 Speaker 3: And as I know myself. 753 00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:58,610 Speaker 1: And also with your bag of tools. 754 00:29:58,910 --> 00:29:59,430 Speaker 5: Yeah. 755 00:29:59,650 --> 00:30:01,230 Speaker 1: You've learned so much over the years. 756 00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:05,150 Speaker 5: There's potential that it might not be my first love, 757 00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: but it might be my greatest love. 758 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: It's like right there. 759 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 5: Oh, wow. Yeah. 760 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,980 Speaker 3: Oh, wow. 761 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 762 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: So more to come. 763 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. 764 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: What is the project with Jonathan that you're doing? Honor Culture. 765 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,660 Speaker 3: Honor Culture. 766 00:30:16,790 --> 00:30:19,430 Speaker 1: Tell me about Honor Culture. Yeah. 767 00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: So when everything was going on, Jim. 768 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:27,570 Speaker 5: Going to the gym became kind of our refuge. And 769 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:30,450 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, you can pray, you can, you know, 770 00:30:30,550 --> 00:30:32,350 Speaker 5: get therapy, you can do all these things and not 771 00:30:32,370 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 5: the prayer goes in the same category. But sometimes you 772 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: need to physically move your body in a way that 773 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 5: something can come off you and it can't come off 774 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: in any other way. And I kind of like, you know, it's, 775 00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, when God has us to 776 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,270 Speaker 5: get baptized, you know, it's like, it's not that you 777 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:52,090 Speaker 5: actually have to go in the water and come up. 778 00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:54,820 Speaker 5: it's a physical thing that you need to do for 779 00:30:54,860 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: your brain to understand what it is that God is 780 00:30:57,580 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 5: sharing with you and for you to understand what this 781 00:31:00,460 --> 00:31:03,850 Speaker 5: means to be born again, you know? And so going 782 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,870 Speaker 5: to the gym, the way that Jonathan was working out, 783 00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:11,130 Speaker 5: I found that things were starting to come off of 784 00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:13,850 Speaker 5: me where I, after like a set or something, I 785 00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 5: would just sit there and I would just cry. And 786 00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:18,940 Speaker 5: it would be like the deep guttural, like just, just 787 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,050 Speaker 5: things needed to come out. And for some reason, I 788 00:31:21,070 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 5: couldn't get to it any other way. 789 00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: And so. 790 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: I started inviting my sister and then my brother-in-law, who 791 00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 5: had just lost his mother at the time. And then 792 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,540 Speaker 5: my best friend, who was working on getting pregnant. And 793 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,710 Speaker 5: then my godmother, my godfather, Jim Brown, had just passed away. 794 00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:39,810 Speaker 5: And then his two youngest. And next thing you know, 795 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 5: there's about a group of 20 of us. And we're 796 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,900 Speaker 5: working out this way and everybody's having the same experience. 797 00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: And I'm like, I've worked out my entire life to 798 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,860 Speaker 5: some degree. I don't know why this is different, but 799 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:55,070 Speaker 5: it is. And Jonathan has such a massive wealth of 800 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:58,350 Speaker 5: knowledge on the body from magazine dreams, from creed, from, 801 00:31:58,430 --> 00:32:00,770 Speaker 5: you know, and then he just, our house is like 802 00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:03,330 Speaker 5: full of books now because he reads everything and he's 803 00:32:03,370 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: constantly educating himself. And so what he brought specifically to 804 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:09,780 Speaker 5: the workout just started to transition everything. 805 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,740 Speaker 1: And so, um, what is that though? What is that? Like, 806 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,420 Speaker 1: is it just, is it a routine? 807 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:19,180 Speaker 4: Is it a mental, like when you say you brought everybody, 808 00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: what is the experience? 809 00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:21,340 Speaker 3: Well, everyone just shows up. 810 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,740 Speaker 5: Some show up at 5am, some show up at 9am 811 00:32:24,370 --> 00:32:26,910 Speaker 5: and we get into the workouts and Jonathan leads them. 812 00:32:27,290 --> 00:32:29,370 Speaker 5: And then we just like work, work, work. And then 813 00:32:29,550 --> 00:32:31,770 Speaker 5: things just start happening. And it's more of like a 814 00:32:31,790 --> 00:32:36,990 Speaker 5: spiritual experience. And, um, And then everybody's body started transforming 815 00:32:37,030 --> 00:32:39,250 Speaker 5: really quick, which for me was amazing because I'm like, look, 816 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:42,670 Speaker 5: you know, at this time, I think I was like 40, 41, 817 00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:44,870 Speaker 5: maybe 42. But I was like, I've never seen my 818 00:32:44,910 --> 00:32:48,410 Speaker 5: body change this quickly. And especially at this age, that's crazy. 819 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:50,830 Speaker 5: And everybody was having the same experience. The oldest person 820 00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:54,970 Speaker 5: in the group was 56 and the youngest person was 21. 821 00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:59,890 Speaker 3: Everybody's bodies change. Everybody's. And so how do we do it? 822 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: What do we do? 823 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,180 Speaker 3: So we have it coming out. 824 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: We're working on an app now and we're going to 825 00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 5: start putting some of the workouts out, but we just, 826 00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 5: just right now we just started the community, which is 827 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,410 Speaker 5: on Instagram. And then now we're getting ready to do 828 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:15,010 Speaker 5: the run clubs and go to different States and kind 829 00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:18,030 Speaker 5: of do like a tour basically of the workouts. And 830 00:33:18,370 --> 00:33:20,350 Speaker 5: then we have something called the honor shuffle, which is 831 00:33:20,370 --> 00:33:22,190 Speaker 5: something that you can do at home without going to 832 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:22,730 Speaker 5: the gym. 833 00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:26,060 Speaker 3: So it really just became. 834 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:30,380 Speaker 5: A kind of a movement around honoring yourself. honoring your 835 00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: mind your body your spirit um honoring what you're going 836 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,940 Speaker 5: through honoring each other holding each other accountable and um 837 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,990 Speaker 5: and yeah it's like a budding. 838 00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:41,970 Speaker 4: I needed i needed i needed to hear all that 839 00:33:42,010 --> 00:33:43,370 Speaker 4: today i told you when you came in i was 840 00:33:43,410 --> 00:33:47,670 Speaker 4: like i'm starting a new kind of discipline i'm trying 841 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:49,830 Speaker 4: a new way of looking at the gym yeah yeah 842 00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:51,870 Speaker 4: yeah i've never really been able to lock into the 843 00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:54,350 Speaker 4: discipline of it but i just recently was like okay 844 00:33:54,370 --> 00:33:56,550 Speaker 4: i'm gonna try this and it has to it's just 845 00:33:56,590 --> 00:33:58,940 Speaker 4: a It's just, it's an internal thing, how I look 846 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,180 Speaker 4: at it, reframing my discipline about it, like reprioritizing. 847 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: So that was my goal in my new place. I 848 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: just moved into a new spot. So I'm in that, 849 00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:09,750 Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'm open to. 850 00:34:09,670 --> 00:34:11,770 Speaker 3: Like those type of gems. 851 00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:15,190 Speaker 5: Because I have the moments where I'm just like, no, 852 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:17,980 Speaker 5: I just remind myself, I will never regret it. 853 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 3: Anytime I go, I'll never regret it. 854 00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:22,970 Speaker 5: And there's not many things in life that you can 855 00:34:22,989 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 5: say that for sure about, but you can absolutely say 856 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,339 Speaker 5: that about the gems. 857 00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: You go, you will never regret it. 858 00:34:28,420 --> 00:34:28,780 Speaker 5: Always. 859 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: You've always been pretty disciplined though, right? Like of that. 860 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,250 Speaker 1: Cause I feel like you've always, at least from the outside, 861 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:34,370 Speaker 1: it always looked like you're in shape. 862 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 5: Uh, I, I, I've gotten better discipline. Um, I think 863 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: because of being a child actor, I was just disciplined 864 00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:44,260 Speaker 5: as an actor. 865 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 866 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:48,430 Speaker 5: And whatever that entailed. But outside of that. 867 00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:49,989 Speaker 1: Also, it's like a hot girl actor, too. 868 00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:54,610 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you were cast as, you know, the 869 00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:54,910 Speaker 4: hot girl. 870 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:57,529 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's expectation also connected to that. 871 00:34:57,550 --> 00:34:57,830 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. 872 00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:59,390 Speaker 1: How you show up physically, right? 873 00:34:59,410 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 5: What's interesting is I, before, before, like, 27, I didn't 874 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 5: have to work at it. 875 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: It was just, my, naturally, genetically, it was not a 876 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:08,459 Speaker 3: big deal. 877 00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:11,299 Speaker 5: And then 26, I just was like, I just want 878 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,489 Speaker 5: to get voluptuous and I just got way too comfortable 879 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,690 Speaker 5: and started eating like burgers and chili cheese fries, like 880 00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:18,770 Speaker 5: a few times a week. Next thing, you know, I 881 00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:22,450 Speaker 5: gained like probably 20 pounds and on, you know, five 882 00:35:22,489 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 5: foot three for me, it was a lot. Like I 883 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 5: couldn't get into my jings. I was like getting on 884 00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: a bed, like, ah, and like, it was just a lot. 885 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,779 Speaker 5: And then I went to do this job and I 886 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 5: had previously worked with a studio on waist deep and 887 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 5: they offered me this job. And when I got there, 888 00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:40,670 Speaker 5: they were like, Oh no, sweetheart, you're going to have 889 00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:42,819 Speaker 5: to lose some weight. Oh, Like, and that's back when 890 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,299 Speaker 5: they couldn't say that, you know? And they were like, yeah, 891 00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 5: if you want to work on this movie, that's, that's. 892 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:50,060 Speaker 5: And so I was like on set literally. And the 893 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,170 Speaker 5: other lead girl, she was too thin. So both of 894 00:35:53,290 --> 00:35:55,750 Speaker 5: us at lunch, she would have to stock up and 895 00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:57,469 Speaker 5: she'd be like trying to really eat. 896 00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:58,910 Speaker 3: And they would be watching me. 897 00:35:58,989 --> 00:36:00,390 Speaker 5: Like I could see the producers at the end of 898 00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:01,549 Speaker 5: the thing, like seeing what I was going to put 899 00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:02,150 Speaker 5: on my plate. 900 00:36:02,739 --> 00:36:06,020 Speaker 3: Girl, I'd go home at night and this was in Chicago. 901 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:06,739 Speaker 3: I'd go home at night. 902 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,739 Speaker 5: I had like a little chocolate thing underneath my pillow 903 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 5: and I'd take one bite at night and cry. 904 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh my God. That's horrible Megan. 905 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:15,739 Speaker 5: But you know, but then I was like, I, I, 906 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,310 Speaker 5: you know, I, I felt like I looked good, but 907 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:20,550 Speaker 5: I also was like, but you're not healthy. And that's 908 00:36:20,610 --> 00:36:23,150 Speaker 5: the issue is you feel, you don't feel great. And 909 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:27,530 Speaker 5: so after that, I kind of like yo-yoed for years. 910 00:36:28,070 --> 00:36:30,290 Speaker 5: And then around like 34, I was like, that's it. 911 00:36:30,350 --> 00:36:31,390 Speaker 5: I'm going to get in the best shape of my 912 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:33,860 Speaker 5: life because you're not getting any younger and you got it. 913 00:36:33,969 --> 00:36:37,010 Speaker 5: You have to start deciding what you want for yourself 914 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,660 Speaker 5: in the future, you know? And so that year I 915 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 5: decided to really get in shape and really be disciplined 916 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 5: about it. And I was like, I'm going to get 917 00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 5: in the DC or Marvel universe by the end of 918 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,620 Speaker 5: this year. And I did, I ended up getting into 919 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:52,469 Speaker 5: DC by the end of that year. But I, I 920 00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: can be off and on the, the, the child actor 921 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,250 Speaker 5: in me is like really rebellious. 922 00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:59,430 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want anyone telling me what to do. 923 00:36:59,469 --> 00:37:00,969 Speaker 3: I don't want to have any responsibility. 924 00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:03,470 Speaker 5: I already have a shitload of responsibilities that I already 925 00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:06,129 Speaker 5: got to do and pay attention to and make sure that, 926 00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:08,910 Speaker 5: and when I think of it, I've been working my 927 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:11,950 Speaker 5: entire life. I've never not had a job. There's never 928 00:37:11,969 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 5: been a year. There's, I think there's only been one 929 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 5: year in my entire career that I haven't worked. 930 00:37:15,820 --> 00:37:17,060 Speaker 1: Wow. 931 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,980 Speaker 3: By the grace of God. 932 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 5: So, but it wasn't, it's not like I'm going to 933 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 5: just be an actor and have a. 934 00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: Career because This is the only job I've had my 935 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,100 Speaker 3: entire life. I got to work, you know? And so 936 00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:29,860 Speaker 3: that was the mentality for so long. 937 00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: So whenever I wasn't working, I didn't really want to 938 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 5: work out. Now I work out because it's not about 939 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,180 Speaker 5: the job. It's about the life that I want. It's 940 00:37:39,219 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: about starting a family. It's about making sure that I 941 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:44,410 Speaker 5: can run around with that kid. It's about my husband 942 00:37:44,489 --> 00:37:46,830 Speaker 5: is eight years younger than me. You know, I want 943 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:48,270 Speaker 5: to travel the world with him. 944 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,750 Speaker 1: You got a young boy you got to keep up with. 945 00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:52,890 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a little young boy. So, you know, 946 00:37:52,969 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 5: you got to keep up with him. And I do. 947 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,620 Speaker 5: But it's about having quality of life. And I want 948 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 5: to look up and be 60 and 70 and be 949 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 5: in shape and be in the fitness space as someone 950 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,219 Speaker 5: who is consistently doing that. 951 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,100 Speaker 3: That's important to me. That to me is legacy and 952 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,500 Speaker 3: that's what I want. Yeah, for life. 953 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: More so than just those roles. 954 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine the fact that that was okay 955 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 4: back then is absolutely nuts. 956 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: Isn't it crazy? 957 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,020 Speaker 1: No, it's crazy. And I'm glad that we've come so far. 958 00:38:28,219 --> 00:38:29,580 Speaker 1: That's not okay. 959 00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 5: They weren't telling it to girls who didn't look like me. 960 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 5: There was a time where they were telling it to 961 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,950 Speaker 5: everybody and then there was a season where it was like, 962 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,779 Speaker 5: Certain people like Kate Winslet or Scarlett Johansson, whoever they are, 963 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 5: Jennifer Lawrence, they'd be like, go F yourself. No. 964 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,109 Speaker 3: But you couldn't say that. Yeah, back then. 965 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:50,590 Speaker 4: But even with age, we were just talking about Jasmine 966 00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:53,489 Speaker 4: Guy and the way that's been a big conversation about- 967 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:57,170 Speaker 4: Just crazy. Have you seen some of that with Different World? 968 00:38:57,969 --> 00:39:01,890 Speaker 4: I love that she didn't just sit home and let 969 00:39:01,930 --> 00:39:06,940 Speaker 4: the comments eat at her spirit and- you know, whatever, 970 00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: have to live in that quietly, which is what a 971 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: lot of people do, right? You sit, you sit at 972 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,700 Speaker 4: home and you read that and you're like, and. 973 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:15,970 Speaker 5: Then you just like, oh, you know, and then you 974 00:39:15,989 --> 00:39:19,790 Speaker 5: carry it by yourself and people assume that it doesn't 975 00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:22,790 Speaker 5: affect you or people, you know, they just, they forget 976 00:39:22,810 --> 00:39:23,970 Speaker 5: that that's actually. 977 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:24,310 Speaker 3: A human being. 978 00:39:24,330 --> 00:39:28,069 Speaker 5: And I'm really glad that she said something because, you know, 979 00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:29,730 Speaker 5: it's like, we're at the end of the day, we're 980 00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:34,340 Speaker 5: all aging. Every single human harsh on women specifically, everybody's aging, 981 00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: you know, like a certain, uh, some man somewhere, his 982 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 5: body's not doing exactly what he wants it to do 983 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 5: right now. And that feels terrible, you know, but this, 984 00:39:41,820 --> 00:39:44,339 Speaker 5: but being able to age, getting a chance to age, 985 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:48,020 Speaker 5: we should be celebrating that and we should be supporting 986 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,870 Speaker 5: everybody in that. But especially women in the sense of like, yeah, 987 00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:54,930 Speaker 5: we're going to look different. That's going to happen. We're 988 00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:56,390 Speaker 5: never going to look the way that we used to look. 989 00:39:56,650 --> 00:39:57,169 Speaker 3: And that's fine. 990 00:39:57,210 --> 00:39:59,780 Speaker 5: It's about looking and feeling your best at every single 991 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,860 Speaker 5: age and understanding that that is different for everyone and 992 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,819 Speaker 5: celebrating that, you know? Yeah. 993 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,100 Speaker 1: Good for her. I like to see when we clap 994 00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:10,060 Speaker 1: back a little bit. 995 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,210 Speaker 3: Her little self, she's such a beautiful little spirit. 996 00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you know her? 997 00:40:14,270 --> 00:40:14,670 Speaker 5: Yeah. 998 00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:15,509 Speaker 3: We did Harlem together. 999 00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:17,690 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. Oh my God. That's right. 1000 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:18,190 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1001 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: Shaz, my guy. Have you seen Different Worlds? It's so good, right? 1002 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:22,610 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet. 1003 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: Oh my God, it's so good. You should watch it. 1004 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: I think you'll like it. 1005 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,020 Speaker 3: I've been traveling, but I have it on my list 1006 00:40:27,060 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 3: to watch. I can't wait. 1007 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 4: What happened is I watched it and then it took 1008 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,900 Speaker 4: me to the old ones. And so now I've been 1009 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 4: binge watching the original, which is really cute to see too. 1010 00:40:34,739 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: It's like, oh wow, it just takes you to a 1011 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 4: whole different time. whatever what are you watching right now 1012 00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 4: do you watch yourself are you watching reasonable death. 1013 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,140 Speaker 3: I am gonna watch will you watch it i will definitely. 1014 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: Be watching it yeah at home with your husband like 1015 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: what do you do. 1016 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 5: A thousand percent really a thousand percent yeah he doesn't 1017 00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:51,290 Speaker 5: watch himself at all but i watch myself i'm like 1018 00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:54,630 Speaker 5: no i'm gonna watch this you know um so it's 1019 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:57,290 Speaker 5: gonna be it's gonna be such a good season really 1020 00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:59,630 Speaker 5: like i can't wait to like i mean some of 1021 00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:01,549 Speaker 5: the stuff and i'm like reading the scripts i'm like 1022 00:41:01,650 --> 00:41:04,380 Speaker 5: oh And then like other times I'm like crying. 1023 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is the sweetest thing ever. 1024 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 5: And then like other times I'm like, oh, this is crazy. Oh, 1025 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: this is about to get so wild. I can't wait 1026 00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:11,460 Speaker 5: to see how this turns out. Yeah. 1027 00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's officially out. 1028 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 4: Hey guys, this episode of IRL is brought to you 1029 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,460 Speaker 4: by Monopoly at McDonald's. Monopoly at McDonald's is back and 1030 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: you can win big this year. Register in the McDonald's 1031 00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:26,220 Speaker 4: app before you order and then make sure you opted 1032 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:30,390 Speaker 4: in for rewards. Then you peel on eligible items like 1033 00:41:30,430 --> 00:41:33,750 Speaker 4: a Big Mac. 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I have a bowl. 1051 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: This is our in real life bowl. 1052 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,180 Speaker 3: Okay. 1053 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 1054 00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:32,300 Speaker 1: Take a little question in there. 1055 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:33,460 Speaker 3: Okay. 1056 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:43,589 Speaker 5: What do you hope people learn from you? I hope 1057 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:55,190 Speaker 5: that people learn that it doesn't matter where you've been, 1058 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:58,060 Speaker 5: what you've done, or what's been done to you, that 1059 00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:01,110 Speaker 5: you are so worthy of of God's best. 1060 00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:03,069 Speaker 3: And that's what God has for you. 1061 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 5: And I hope that people get from me that your 1062 00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 5: authenticity is the fullness of who you are. 1063 00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 3: And we need that. 1064 00:43:17,570 --> 00:43:19,990 Speaker 5: And you can't go wrong in just being the fullness 1065 00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:24,630 Speaker 5: of who you are and that people move unapologetically and 1066 00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:28,250 Speaker 5: that they really listen to God, you know, and, and 1067 00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:31,940 Speaker 5: if them and God are good, then That's it. Move 1068 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,940 Speaker 5: from that place and everything else will come the way 1069 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 5: it's supposed to come and be a blessing. 1070 00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not a bad little inspiration to leave 1071 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: on people. Thank you. I hope so. In real life, 1072 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:52,970 Speaker 4: I guess that's the same thing. I'll leave that. 1073 00:43:53,410 --> 00:43:54,670 Speaker 1: What are you still working on? 1074 00:43:57,489 --> 00:43:58,130 Speaker 3: More discipline. 1075 00:43:58,989 --> 00:43:59,489 Speaker 6: Really? 1076 00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:00,690 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. 1077 00:44:00,770 --> 00:44:01,969 Speaker 3: But not with working out. 1078 00:44:02,090 --> 00:44:06,310 Speaker 5: Just I'm, I'm such a free spirited person that like, 1079 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: you know, growing up, like, you know, if I was 1080 00:44:08,219 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 5: like 19, someone's like, let's go to Vegas right now. 1081 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,589 Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go. 1082 00:44:10,610 --> 00:44:12,859 Speaker 1: It's like, we don't have a hotel room. 1083 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll figure it out. 1084 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,580 Speaker 5: You know? And I do love that about myself, but 1085 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:20,380 Speaker 5: I also want, um, I want to make sure that 1086 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 5: in my free spirit. Um, that everything that I do 1087 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 5: is serving me. what I want to accomplish. Um, because 1088 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 5: sometimes when you're too free spirited, it can be more 1089 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,500 Speaker 5: destructive than helpful at certain times. 1090 00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: Like a focus, right? 1091 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:36,939 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1092 00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:37,180 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1093 00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:41,180 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so I think growing up, sometimes it was destructive. 1094 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 5: I mean, not just growing up, like, I mean, like 1095 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,660 Speaker 5: growing up in my twenties and thirties and forties sometimes, you. 1096 00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: Know, we'll give yourself a break. Cause you are a creative. 1097 00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: That's true. 1098 00:44:49,219 --> 00:44:51,299 Speaker 1: You can't be too tight of a box. Then how 1099 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,030 Speaker 1: can you be free and creative? 1100 00:44:53,050 --> 00:44:55,430 Speaker 5: But I also think like, I thought this was going 1101 00:44:55,450 --> 00:44:56,890 Speaker 5: to sound bad, but I also think a lot of 1102 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 5: creatives crash and burn because they, because they need a 1103 00:44:59,460 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 5: little bit more like without, without, without dimming that creativity 1104 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:08,900 Speaker 5: and without losing that light and that freedom, making sure 1105 00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:11,930 Speaker 5: that some of those things are just good things that 1106 00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:13,730 Speaker 5: are good for them, you know, and things that are 1107 00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:16,089 Speaker 5: serving what their ultimate goals are. 1108 00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:16,490 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1109 00:45:16,590 --> 00:45:20,009 Speaker 5: You know, some, some creatives like, you know, can't really feel, 1110 00:45:20,030 --> 00:45:23,260 Speaker 5: don't feel comfortable making a song without, you know, smoking 1111 00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 5: a lot, then that's fine to each his own. 1112 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,830 Speaker 3: But like, if you're, if you're a singer at some point, 1113 00:45:28,850 --> 00:45:31,089 Speaker 3: that's going to damage your voice, you know? And it's 1114 00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:35,910 Speaker 3: like just having the balance of, of being free and 1115 00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:36,630 Speaker 3: using wisdom. 1116 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:40,089 Speaker 1: I get that. Should we do a voice note? 1117 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:43,070 Speaker 4: Hey guys, you ever signed up for a phone plan thinking, wow, 1118 00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:43,950 Speaker 4: what a great price. 1119 00:45:44,090 --> 00:45:46,270 Speaker 1: And then a few months later, it's like, surprise, your 1120 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: bill is higher. We hate that. 1121 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 4: With Boost Mobile, you pay $ 25 a month forever. That's 1122 00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:55,790 Speaker 4: unlimited talk, text, and data starting at just $ 25 a month. 1123 00:45:55,810 --> 00:45:59,450 Speaker 4: There's no price hikes, there's no contract, and this is forever. 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Customers will pay $ 25 a month as long 1133 00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:27,590 Speaker 4: as they remain active on the Boost unlimited plan. 1134 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:29,549 Speaker 1: We have a segment called Voice Notes. Somebody asked you 1135 00:46:29,570 --> 00:46:30,530 Speaker 1: a question or a comment? 1136 00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:31,150 Speaker 6: Okay. 1137 00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:33,790 Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. We got an IRL 1138 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:35,430 Speaker 1: voice note for Meg. 1139 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:37,530 Speaker 3: Hi, Megan. 1140 00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:42,270 Speaker 8: I love two of your movies. I love Waste Deep 1141 00:46:42,469 --> 00:46:45,779 Speaker 8: and Debs. I think those are some of your throwback 1142 00:46:45,860 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 8: greatest hits. But which one did you have more fun shooting? 1143 00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: This is your life. 1144 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,260 Speaker 5: Right. 1145 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,340 Speaker 1: This is your movie life. 1146 00:46:56,810 --> 00:46:57,790 Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness. 1147 00:46:58,070 --> 00:47:07,300 Speaker 5: Okay, so I was 21 when I shot Debs. I'm 1148 00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 5: 22 and I was 24 when I shot Waste Deep. I. 1149 00:47:11,550 --> 00:47:14,290 Speaker 3: Waste Deep. 1150 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:14,980 Speaker 5: Yeah. I.... 1151 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:18,770 Speaker 3: I had fun on both of them. 1152 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:27,380 Speaker 5: But maybe Debs because all I wanted to do and 1153 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,020 Speaker 5: sometimes all I want to do is wear a short 1154 00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 5: skirt and walk around with a gun and shoot things. 1155 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,780 Speaker 3: So with Debs. 1156 00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:39,810 Speaker 5: It was really fun because it had this Charlie's Angel 1157 00:47:40,010 --> 00:47:43,330 Speaker 5: element to it. But then Max was such a badass 1158 00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:46,700 Speaker 5: and so tough. And then I also was like, I 1159 00:47:46,739 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 5: remember being inside my trailer using my guns because they were. 1160 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,660 Speaker 3: So heavy as weights to work out. 1161 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,379 Speaker 5: So maybe Debs, but I did have fun on Waste 1162 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,540 Speaker 5: Deep because Tyrese is my brother. 1163 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: Good times all around. Do you always have fun on 1164 00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: the set? 1165 00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:01,259 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1166 00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:01,700 Speaker 4: Really? 1167 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1168 00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 3: It's my choice. 1169 00:48:02,540 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: You really enjoy it, right? 1170 00:48:03,739 --> 00:48:07,210 Speaker 5: Yeah. But I'm like a conscious, you know, I, I 1171 00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:09,630 Speaker 5: create the space that I want to live in and 1172 00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:12,660 Speaker 5: I try to make sure that I bring like just 1173 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 5: positivity and good energy to every set that I go to, 1174 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: to every actor, to every crew member, to everybody involved. 1175 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:21,810 Speaker 3: I really try to create that everywhere. 1176 00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:23,930 Speaker 5: And then there's places sometimes where, you know, other people 1177 00:48:23,969 --> 00:48:26,630 Speaker 5: got things going on. And so, you know, I create 1178 00:48:26,670 --> 00:48:28,890 Speaker 5: that space just like off to the side of my 1179 00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:30,330 Speaker 5: own little world and, you know. 1180 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,390 Speaker 1: Protect yourself. 1181 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,100 Speaker 3: And I shoot my superpowers of love towards them and 1182 00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:35,260 Speaker 3: keep it pushing. 1183 00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: You do have a free spirit to it. 1184 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,020 Speaker 4: I also, before you were coming, I watched the Friday 1185 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 4: clip and then there was a clip of you. 1186 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:43,660 Speaker 1: God, you had to be in your 20s. I guess 1187 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: you had like a wardrobe malfunction or something. 1188 00:48:45,739 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1189 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: It was on TMZ. And you were like, I'm so sorry. 1190 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,860 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to make a nipple slip. But I 1191 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:52,910 Speaker 1: didn't have a bra on. But like... You were just like, 1192 00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:55,300 Speaker 1: but who cares? I'm totally fine with it. 1193 00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:55,870 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 1194 00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:59,029 Speaker 1: You just always had this like freedom about you. 1195 00:48:59,050 --> 00:49:02,950 Speaker 3: It's nice that... There was a time where. 1196 00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:05,810 Speaker 5: I felt that I kind of like lost that a bit. 1197 00:49:05,830 --> 00:49:07,410 Speaker 3: Like I really had... I just. 1198 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 3: I felt a bit suffocated. 1199 00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:14,100 Speaker 5: The rebel in me was like, yeah, but I am 1200 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,549 Speaker 5: who I am and I love who I am. you know? Um, 1201 00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:18,890 Speaker 5: but I was like, let me just find the balance. 1202 00:49:19,530 --> 00:49:22,250 Speaker 5: And I think that, I think I've just now gotten 1203 00:49:22,310 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 5: back to that Megan where that kind of freedom, like 1204 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,379 Speaker 5: I saw this post that it said, um, you know, 1205 00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:32,580 Speaker 5: being in your forties is like being 16 again, except 1206 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 5: for not judging yourself. 1207 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,100 Speaker 3: You know? 1208 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,859 Speaker 5: And I think at that time, like by the time 1209 00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:39,779 Speaker 5: I was in my twenties, I just was completely free. 1210 00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:42,270 Speaker 5: And then I think I went to a space of 1211 00:49:42,330 --> 00:49:44,290 Speaker 5: kind of judging myself a little bit, but being like, 1212 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:45,230 Speaker 5: but I'm still going to be me. 1213 00:49:45,810 --> 00:49:48,250 Speaker 3: And now I just feel kind of like that 16 1214 00:49:48,250 --> 00:49:48,930 Speaker 3: year old again. 1215 00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:52,890 Speaker 1: Free again. Yeah. 1216 00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:54,069 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1217 00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:58,219 Speaker 1: In real life, I'm no longer available for. Bullshit. 1218 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,780 Speaker 5: Yes. 1219 00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:01,180 Speaker 1: On any level. 1220 00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:04,180 Speaker 3: And exhaustion. I like to be exhausted. 1221 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: You sleep well? 1222 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: I sleep well, but sometimes people exhaust me. 1223 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 5: So I'm like, I just can't. 1224 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,500 Speaker 3: Before, I just sit there and I'm like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 1225 00:50:12,820 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 3: Now I'm like, I'm so sorry. 1226 00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 6: I can't. 1227 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 5: I got to go to this thing. You get out. Yeah, 1228 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:18,730 Speaker 5: I can't do it. 1229 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,739 Speaker 3: I've done enough to not feel bad about saying I can't. 1230 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,430 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. I'm going to read you 1231 00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:27,830 Speaker 1: a bit. I'll be right back. I can't do this. 1232 00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:29,009 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I can't do this. 1233 00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:30,589 Speaker 3: I'm nice about it, but I'm bored. 1234 00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:37,330 Speaker 1: Lately, I have been reminding myself that. 1235 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:42,469 Speaker 5: God's got it all like under control. And I think 1236 00:50:42,489 --> 00:50:45,549 Speaker 5: sometimes we forget to just be like, oh yeah, you 1237 00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:46,010 Speaker 5: know what? 1238 00:50:46,410 --> 00:50:49,250 Speaker 3: No matter what, God's got it all under control. It's 1239 00:50:49,489 --> 00:50:49,910 Speaker 3: all good. 1240 00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: Do you have a bucket list thing? Is there anything 1241 00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: that you haven't done at this point? 1242 00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 5: Oh, my bucket list is to have me, my husband 1243 00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:04,750 Speaker 5: and my baby just like backpacking. you know, just go 1244 00:51:04,989 --> 00:51:07,149 Speaker 5: out into the world and just like backpack for like 1245 00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:09,550 Speaker 5: a year, just not with much stuff. 1246 00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:11,290 Speaker 3: I mean, you can give me a tent. I don't 1247 00:51:11,330 --> 00:51:11,850 Speaker 3: need much. 1248 00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:13,549 Speaker 5: Like I just, as long as I can brush my 1249 00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:16,810 Speaker 5: teeth and have a brow pencil, I'm just kidding. 1250 00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 3: No, some good chapstick. Um, yeah. And, and he's really 1251 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 3: liked that too. 1252 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:25,779 Speaker 5: So it's, yeah, that's, I just want to travel like 1253 00:51:25,860 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 5: with me and my husband and my child and just travel, 1254 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 5: go live somewhere like Lisbon, you know, for a year 1255 00:51:32,260 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 5: and just explore. 1256 00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:33,259 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1257 00:51:33,650 --> 00:51:36,169 Speaker 1: And be free and just in the moment. 1258 00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:38,990 Speaker 3: I want to go where nobody knows my name. 1259 00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:40,969 Speaker 1: In real life, what was the last time you cried 1260 00:51:41,010 --> 00:51:41,770 Speaker 1: from gratitude? 1261 00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:45,529 Speaker 3: That almost just made me cry. 1262 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:46,270 Speaker 1: What? 1263 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:47,330 Speaker 3: Just the question. 1264 00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:48,010 Speaker 4: Really? 1265 00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:51,820 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm in such gratitude. I'm in such gratitude. 1266 00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:54,420 Speaker 3: Like such gratitude. 1267 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:55,259 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1268 00:51:56,020 --> 00:51:56,540 Speaker 1: For? 1269 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 3: What God has brought me through. 1270 00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1271 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:07,589 Speaker 5: For my husband, for my family, for the family that 1272 00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:12,810 Speaker 5: I believe is coming, for the career that I've had, 1273 00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:18,950 Speaker 5: for the friends that I have, for the joy that 1274 00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:23,109 Speaker 5: I hold, that I protect very well, or that God 1275 00:52:23,150 --> 00:52:28,330 Speaker 5: protects very well, to be healthy, to have made it 1276 00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:37,930 Speaker 5: to 45. to make people smile when people come up 1277 00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:40,980 Speaker 5: to me on the street and they say how i 1278 00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 5: inspired them or i was their childhood or they loved 1279 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,530 Speaker 5: harlem or whatever it is um to be in that 1280 00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:53,270 Speaker 5: position and to be whole and to have gotten to 1281 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:57,150 Speaker 5: this point inside myself and outside myself i'm in such. 1282 00:52:56,989 --> 00:53:00,650 Speaker 4: Gratitude That's going to take me to my last bowl question, 1283 00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:02,170 Speaker 4: which is always my favorite. 1284 00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:04,730 Speaker 1: Even when they don't pick it, I ask it every episode. 1285 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: That if God were to text you right now, what 1286 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: would it say? 1287 00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:20,650 Speaker 6: I think he would say he's proud of me. 1288 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:27,569 Speaker 1: Gets you, right? And you believe that, yeah? 1289 00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:29,669 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 1290 00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: Well then, well done. You win. I mean, if you 1291 00:53:32,890 --> 00:53:34,340 Speaker 1: made him proud, right? You did good. 1292 00:53:34,420 --> 00:53:34,780 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1293 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,180 Speaker 1: You did great. And also, you got a show coming 1294 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,580 Speaker 1: and you got. 1295 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:41,660 Speaker 3: Yeah. You got to do stuff. Y'all watch Reasonable Doubt. 1296 00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 8: It's so good. 1297 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 4: And you can leave everybody with one thing because you have... 1298 00:53:47,980 --> 00:53:51,590 Speaker 4: You are in this beautiful space of grace and joy 1299 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:53,970 Speaker 4: and love and all those things. It's like you really 1300 00:53:54,010 --> 00:53:55,830 Speaker 4: have figured this thing out, right? 1301 00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:56,750 Speaker 1: It seems like it. 1302 00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:59,150 Speaker 3: Well, girl, you have until you know how life goes. 1303 00:53:59,190 --> 00:54:01,390 Speaker 3: I know. Then different seasons. 1304 00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:04,950 Speaker 4: But if somebody's watching and really inspired by that and 1305 00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 4: not really there yet, or in the dark of where 1306 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,779 Speaker 4: you have been, or in the down of where, what 1307 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 4: would you say to them? 1308 00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:13,819 Speaker 1: Let's leave them with that. 1309 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,700 Speaker 5: I would say it may not feel like it, but 1310 00:54:19,739 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 5: God really has you. 1311 00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:22,780 Speaker 3: God really has you. 1312 00:54:23,550 --> 00:54:30,650 Speaker 5: Every horrible or hard thing that happens, rather private, rather public, 1313 00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:34,910 Speaker 5: all of it at some point will turn around and 1314 00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:37,250 Speaker 5: be such a blessing and add to who you are 1315 00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:39,750 Speaker 5: as a person and make you so much more powerful, 1316 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:43,250 Speaker 5: so much stronger, will give you the ability to pour 1317 00:54:43,290 --> 00:54:47,460 Speaker 5: into other people's lives. from a place of authority and truth. 1318 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:54,460 Speaker 5: And you will come through stronger and better than you 1319 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,730 Speaker 5: ever were before. And the going through part is the 1320 00:54:59,770 --> 00:55:01,860 Speaker 5: hard part, but there's so much to get out of it. 1321 00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:04,070 Speaker 5: And there is a way to dance even in the rain. 1322 00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:09,290 Speaker 5: And just don't forget your dance and know that the rain. 1323 00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 3: Will come and go. 1324 00:55:13,530 --> 00:55:16,590 Speaker 1: Making good in real life. 1325 00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:21,710 Speaker 3: This is making good in real life. 1326 00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:23,130 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for watching. 1327 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:26,609 Speaker 4: Make sure you subscribe, like, comment, and check out all 1328 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:29,610 Speaker 4: of the other episodes we have on Angel Martinez IRL podcast.