1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: up on this football Friday. Of course we're talking football. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: It's conference championship weekend in the NFL. We're gonna break 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: it all down. We're going to make our picks against 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: the spread as well, and we're gonna rank head coaching 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: openings in the NFL. A couple more were officially filled yesterday, 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: but they are more available. But who's got the worst 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: of the bunch. We'll get into that for you here. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: We're also going to have a conversation about the ratings, 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: good news when it comes to college football and the 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: number of people interested. And we've got the usual fun 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: stuff in Shenanigans. It's all yours coming up next here, 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe on a Football Friday, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: And away we go. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: It is two Pros and a cup of Joe here 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. And he's LeVar Arrington, that guy's 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. I'm jonastch. You can listen to us as 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: always on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of affiliates all across the country. Wherever you are 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: making us a part of your Friday morning, we appreciate 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: you doing so. If you're listening on the podcast, thank you, 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: and we will be taking here live until nine am 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific. 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: Damn right, it's a great song. 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your best one yet. Oh yeah, it's your 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: best one yet. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: Oh. 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Sanford and Son was pretty good. 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 5: I stumbled on it. Yes, Sanford Sundays is the whole 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: time greatest stumbled stumbled upon a best song. You know, 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 5: by the way, anything great you have to stumble upon Jonas. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: But I was basically getting at. 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: Well, you've been firing off rounds from what I hear 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: before the show, So. 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: Dang, what are you talking about? 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: What are you talking on? Jonas? 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Would you say Patty speaks? 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 6: Looks like, oh, that's that's rude. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 5: I'm going hem, Well, well he made the voice. It 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: was like, dang, does he look like Cartman? He's much 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: taller than Cartman. Come on, it's not a more jackl Yeah, 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: matching the pills see that ray? 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was. 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Pretty good. 47 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: That was that. You don't watch South Park? 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: No, No, he doesn't watch I'm more of a South 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 6: central guy, Are you read ready to do that again? 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 8: No? 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: No, if I can, he didn't come out as good 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: that time. 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: No, that was actually pretty good. 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: It wasn't the best. I guess I ail firing off 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: shots right now? 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: What's that about? 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 7: You know what you need? 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Dude wipes. 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: You've ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and wondered, is this as good as he gets? It's 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable dude 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: wipes because weather just cleans better. Available on Amazon and 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: a major retailers nationwide. 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: Dude Wipe's best clean pants down. 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: All right, So, I mean that's just a wild ending, man. 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you stick the landing, but it's just that's 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: a wild ending for screws. 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 6: I don't know why they don't take my little model. 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 6: It's a breath men for your ass. Yeah, I do 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 6: feel like that holds true. 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: I do say that. I declare that that is it's 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: pretty good. That is pretty good. Bro could be taking 73 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: that pants down. 74 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure you would take it the wrong way. 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: Some people would, but why why why would a breath 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: mint be taking the wrong way? 77 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: As people? People take everything the wrong way? 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: Now you want to you want to know what's crazy, Jonas, 79 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: I use dude wipes and and even just yesterday, it's like, 80 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: man like, when I use dude wipes, I think of 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: a breath mint for my ass, and. 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: Honest to God, that's what's in my head in that moment. 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Now, can I be honest too? 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think I've said this before to you guys, 85 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 6: but I sincerely mean that you get a free pass. 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 6: You get one free pass, that first one that comes 87 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 6: out like first fart, can't smell it? 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, talking, I mean that's a selling point right there. 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Man, I mean, come on, what is happening right now? 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: What do you mean we're having to do. 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: That's what happens when the Ravens hired Jesse Minner. Yeah, 92 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: it's like a right good high I see. 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: All right. 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: So here's my question about the Jesse Mintor hire with 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens, because Steve Bashatti sat up there and said, Hey, 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson wants to be involved with this whole 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: hiring process, you know he's going to get his ass 98 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: up from Florida and be a part of this whole thing. 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the hire of Jesse Mintor and 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'll bet Lamar never got on the plane. 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: I'll bet he never even showed up, because it just 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it feels like a listen, he spent a couple of 103 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: years with Harbaugh at the at the NFL level, at 104 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: the college level, he spent time with the Ravens organization. 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: It just feels like, oh, well, we know him better 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: than the other guys, so we'll just bring him back 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: because he's familiar with how we operate around here. Like it, 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like this would have been if you 109 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: were trying to maximize the back portion of Lamar Jackson's career, 110 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: that this would have been the direction you would have gone. 111 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean maybe I First off, I just sent 112 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 6: you a text as to five days ago at least 113 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: what I think Lamar has been up to. 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: But you're not wrong. 115 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 6: He most he might have been consultant in all this, 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 6: but I don't believe based on recent footage, he was 117 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 6: deeply involved in these head coaching interviews. But my big 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: question is, Okay, so you got your guy to help 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: the defense improve, who's the OC like And I don't 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 6: mean that and in like a derogatory manner about any 121 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 6: defensive minded head coach we'll get to what I sent 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 6: you ex give it a second. But the reality is 123 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 6: it's the same thing if you hire a defensive mind 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 6: of head coach in Buffalo, who's the OC because you 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: know that's as big, if not, you know, bigger of 126 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 6: a higher when you've got a quarterback like Lamar Jackson, 127 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 6: when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen. But again, 128 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: I don't think, based on my research, guys, that Lamar 129 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: was heavily involved in these head coaching interviews. 130 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: I feel like he's a relative unknown Guys. I don't 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: I know who he is. 132 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, y'all want to saw you look at 133 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: Lamar one more, y'all want to address Lamar. 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: So I think that that's I do remember seeing that 135 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: a little while back, Lamar Jackson at a field travel 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: in what looks to be an altered state. He appeared 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to be just time traveling and was getting some to 138 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: go food at at a food truck. But you sure can, Reverend, 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you can smoke it too, But I do. I do 140 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: wonder if that was Lamar's first time at that food truck, 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: because it appeared like he was familiar with the surroundings. 142 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: So I mean it looked like some good food man, 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: you know, and that's like the that's the new thing, 144 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: the new wave is taking your good food to you know, 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: the food truck. I mean, go to where the fish are. 146 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 5: Don't try to get the fish to come to you. 147 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: You know, that's what you know in the business, you know, 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: with brick and mortar becoming kind of weird and you know, 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: all this technology changing how you're able to get a 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 5: hold of your food. I mean, Lamar, Lamar did it 151 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: like he got up, you know, he went to the 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 5: food truck and got himself while he was filling. I 153 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 5: wonder if he went to the food truck feeling good 154 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: after he saw this hire though. 155 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: That's what I mean. 156 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: The guy did play receiver when he was a player. Now, 157 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: I don't understand this whole flip flop up with guys. 158 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 5: You know that, you know, he he was an offensive guy. 159 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: He just ended up coaching defense and more often than not, 160 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: I mean I coached an I was an offensive coordinator 161 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 5: my last year of coaching high school football, and I 162 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: was a defense. 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: What happened? 164 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: What happened? 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Looks like he's left the country, oh man, now VARs 166 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: time traveling. 167 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: He's back here. 168 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: Damn, I heard all the whole time. I'm not time traveling. 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I could be it's Friday, but not yet. 170 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, right, it could be a great hire. 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: He is to me an obscure, unknown entity, so I 172 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: can't really judging one way or the other. I would say, 173 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: the biggest question here is what group of people went 174 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: into the selection of him being the head coach. 175 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: I don't think this is an indictment on him. 176 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 5: I don't feel like there's I don't feel like I 177 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 5: need to attack him because the verdict would be out 178 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 5: talking about a new start, I said, I would want 179 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: to see a new start. I'm tired of retrades. But man, 180 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: I don't know who he is, so I would be curious. 181 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 5: I mean, do you guys have any like Q. Do 182 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: you have any type of understanding, got background how they 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: went about? You know, how they went about? 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: Don't know how. But I've got a lot of background 185 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: on Jesse. I played actually for his dad. 186 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 6: His dall was our defensive coordinator my last two years 187 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 6: during my time at Notre Dame, and it's one of 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 6: the reasons why he transitioned from playing wide receivers. You 189 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 6: pointed out at Mount Saint Joseph and then turning over 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 6: to the defensive side of the ball, which he's been 191 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: on for the entirety of his coaching career, starting a 192 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 6: Notre Dame back when he was a graduate intern my 193 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: senior year, and then going to Cincinnati as a graduate. 194 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: Assistant and and so forth from there. So he's he's 195 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: been on that side of the ball for a while. 196 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 6: He's, you know, one of those like kind of young 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 6: minds when I mean you jump into it and you're 198 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 6: in the NFL in you know, kind of a you know, 199 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say somewhat of a significant role, you know, 200 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 6: after I'd had coached for a while. But also at 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: the same time, like you know, he's he's been a 202 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: coordinator too, Like early in his career. He was probably 203 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 6: twenty eight twenty nine when he first started calling defense 204 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 6: back in college. So that kind of says a lot, 205 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 6: right like when you're and he might have been younger, 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 6: because I think it at Indiana State he called the defense. 207 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: But he's he's been doing this kind of for a 208 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: while now. 209 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 6: It's just he's been hasn't been known up the NFL ranks, 210 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: but his dad's was was well known in coaching circles. 211 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: He built up a lot of credibility, I know with 212 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 6: the Ravens organization back when he first went there. And 213 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 6: then obviously he has the uh, the voter confidence on 214 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: the hardballs, like that's that's a huge thing. And if 215 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 6: you think about too, when Baltimore went to Mike McDonald 216 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: as their defensive coordinator, which now looking at what he's 217 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 6: doing in Seattle and how that's worked out, it seems 218 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: like they have a pretty good feel how to pick 219 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 6: some of these guys. So I think he was impressive 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 6: enough in his first stint with Baltimore, even though it 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 6: was as a you know, assistant, that they've kept tabs 222 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 6: on it, and they feel like based on you know, 223 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 6: how he's continued to call defense at the college level. 224 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: He was really good at Michigan. 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: You know, back in the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty 226 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 6: three and spare me the whole you know, spygate stuff 227 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 6: and all that. Like with with Connor Stallions, they were 228 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 6: damn good. And you know, now it's La Chargers and 229 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 6: now he's through the head coach. So I think if 230 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 6: you're Baltimore and you say, hey, look, this is our identity. 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 6: We want to get back to playing really really good defense. 232 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: Like you mentioned yesterday, var just about kind of Trent 233 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 6: dilferd like it was a defensive mind of team. 234 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: You're right that when we played against them. 235 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 9: What. 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 7: White white? Wait wait wait what did you just say? 237 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: What when you talked about like Baltimore's defense before that, 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: we're after that? 239 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 4: What you said? You said? What that was right? 240 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: Rady when talking about beath Warres defense. 241 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: Godly, man, this is going to be a great Friday. 242 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: Come on, go ahead, keep going, man. 243 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 6: Well, the general point is that, like, that's their identity, 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 6: that's who they are. It's it's it's they need to 245 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 6: get back to that. And then obviously you need to 246 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 6: figure out who you're gonna pair with Lamar Jackson to 247 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 6: make the offense work. But I look at this team, 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 6: I feel like they need to get back to putting 249 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 6: the fear of God in their opponents with their defense. 250 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: And and look, maybe that comes when you have ed Reed, 251 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: Maybe it comes when you have ray Lewis or some 252 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 6: of the other defensive players they had over the years 253 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 6: that are granted Hall of famers. But still there was 254 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 6: a mentality there too. And I think he's got the 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 6: ability to bring that back. And I think whoever they 256 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 6: bring in as THEOC, it's gonna be a huge move 257 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 6: and they're gonna have to keep finding probably new ocs 258 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 6: if things go well, But I think this hire is. 259 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: One that could work for what they need most right now. 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: There's also the other element that probably didn't get discussed enough, 261 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: but the injuries were a real problem for Baltimore this year. 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Like that was that was a real issue and they 263 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy. And I'm just I'm assuming unless you're 264 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers and you just deal with it 265 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: every year, I'm assuming health would be a little bit 266 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: more on the side of Baltimore this year, which probably 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: would help. And who knows, maybe it turns into a 268 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Seattle situation where Seattle's defense looks fantastic and they've got 269 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, they're running the show and you're just hoping 270 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: you get enough on offense and there's no catastrophic mistakes 271 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that keep you in games because you know the defense 272 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: is going to do their part. So from that standpoint, 273 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this this could work. But if 274 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's not out there and not and not healthy, 275 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: and available and playing like it just feels like they're 276 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: going to be up against it in that division. 277 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: That's going to be the biggest story moving forward. I mean, 278 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: that's it's I mean, obviously the owner set of you know. 279 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: Biscotti. 280 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: Vashadi set a tone, but I said he can't give 281 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 5: the power to his players, but he wants their input. 282 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: A lot of criticism and scrutiny has fallen upon Lamar Jackson, 283 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 5: and I think that this is going to be a 284 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: telling moment for Lamar Jackson's career, you know, because I 285 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: know for me, not speaking for anyone else, and I 286 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: know we're up against the break, but I just know 287 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: for me, I came away from this season I'm not 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,479 Speaker 5: sure Lamar Jackson. 289 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: Hasn't hit his ceiling. Wow, I'm not sure. I know 290 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: he's a great talent. 291 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 7: I know that. 292 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: I know that he hasn't been able to stay healthy, 293 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: and that plays a part in my thought process of 294 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 5: could he have hit his ceiling? But it just seems 295 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 5: as though if this new start doesn't show a rejuvenation 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: of how I'm viewing what Lamar Jackson is able to 297 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: do and what I saw this season, it just makes 298 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: me wonder how intense does the scrutiny get next year 299 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: if Lamar Jackson isn't able to deliver. And if I 300 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: were a betting man, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't bet 301 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: that he's going to deliver next year versus what he 302 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: did this year. That's just how I would feel about it. 303 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna depend on the contract situation, which 304 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 6: that's I mean, as Steve Biscotti as you call him, 305 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: mentioned that it's it's gonna be a big it's gonna 306 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: be a big conversation this offseason like that. That's one 307 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: of the bigger discussion points because the last time they 308 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 6: became such a distraction and the owner has already given 309 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson all the leverage saying like we need to 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 6: get this on. It's a seventy five million dollar cap it. 311 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 6: They can't carry that going into twenty twenty six. So 312 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 6: he's going to get a new deal. It's gonna be 313 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 6: one that probably sets him up as one of the 314 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 6: top in the market, and that once that conversation is over, 315 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 6: then it will turn onto the field. But let's not 316 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 6: get it twisted. They're not moving on from him anywhere 317 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 6: in the next three or four years. So regardless of 318 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: how he performs this year, like that, dude, that new 319 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 6: deal is going to insulate him from a lot of 320 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 6: that criticism because it's gonna be Jesse Meners first year 321 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 6: as head coach, first year in a new offense. 322 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: There's gonna be all those things that occur. 323 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 6: But the contract he's going to sign too, is going 324 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 6: to play a huge role in keeping him basically there 325 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 6: and without really any blame for the next three or 326 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: four years. 327 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Oh wait, you mean they're not going to trade him 328 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: to the Raiders for the number one pick. I saw 329 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: that getting some run on social media. 330 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 7: I did. 331 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a possibility. Who, Like, who would do that? 332 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Why would Baltimore do that? 333 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's go ahead and trade an established quarterback still 334 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: in his prime for the chance to draft Fernando Mendoza, Like, 335 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: who would do that? 336 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: It makes no sense? But it got Did he. 337 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: Help on the coaching search? Do you guys think he did? 338 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 10: No? 339 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: And I was actually gonna ask you guys this because 340 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: obviously that one all right, So I was gonna say this, 341 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: But you guys, obviously being elite athletes and knowing health 342 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: and fitness more so than ninety nine percent of the 343 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: public out there. I'm just curious, do you think, if 344 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: you've had a history with nagging injuries like Lamar has, 345 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: that the best thing for your body is Mongolian food 346 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: off a lunch truck while high in Baltimore. 347 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: Do you think that that would be a little bit judgmental. 348 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm asking the question. 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: You have a Sali, that's all. 350 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm asking the question. But I'm just trying 351 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: to get to the bottom. 352 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: Of my answers. I don't think the Mongolian food has 353 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: anything to do with it. 354 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm curious. 355 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: I know he's going to be insulated by what type 356 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: of money he makes in the contract that he has, 357 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: and listen, I don't I'm not saying that he should 358 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 5: be gone. I'm not saying that, but I do think 359 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: that it doesn't insulate the Baltimore Ravens, doesn't insulate their GM, 360 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 5: and now that the owner has inserted himself through this process, 361 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 5: it doesn't insulate him. And I think that he's going 362 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 5: to have to perform because there's a standard that's connected 363 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: to the success of this organization, and I know the 364 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: owner is aware of that. 365 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: So I just wonder. 366 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: I know Lamar Jackson is aware of that, but how 367 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 5: is he going to handle things moving forward? You know, 368 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: how are the Baltimore Ravens going to handle things moving forward? 369 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 5: Because a lot of that scrutiny and criticism is going 370 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: to land at Lamar's feet if it doesn't go the 371 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: way it's supposed to go. 372 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: Listen, Lamar, why don't you skip the lunch truck and 373 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: get you some pizza Hud Because here's a game name 374 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: tip order pizza. QB shouts the first and if you're hungry, 375 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: the big New Yorkers got those giant foldable slices and 376 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: right now it's just ten bucks, the biggest pizza for 377 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: the biggest games, only at Pizza Hut. So it is 378 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox 379 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh forgot to mention this. 380 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: To you guys. 381 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: It is a football Friday. It's football Friday. 382 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 7: Come on, far. 383 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: Gotta go to Prey, got it, go to break, Gotta. 384 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: Go to Preak. Yeah, yeah, come on, come on, Lorando. 385 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: Let's get the break. Let's do it for Come on, 386 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: do it for Eddie, Come on, come on. 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Did you 442 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: try to fade me? 443 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: That's not true, that's not true. I actually support people. 444 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: What do you want me to do it? Jonahstyles good? 445 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 10: Oh? 446 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: Hey, we finished the season two over five hundred. 447 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: What a win. 448 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: That's rude. 449 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean that's what you usually say when really you 450 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: lose out on the veig. So it's still not good enough. 451 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: You have nobody cares about the vig. 452 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, anyone who's actually a gamble who takes our advice. 453 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Does well, Like, for example, you got to pay a little. 454 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: It's like an attacks on gambling. 455 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to pay a little to bed a little. 456 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's what a vig is called. Is that 457 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 4: an acronym? 458 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: So if you see a line that is minus one ten, 459 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: fix if you see something that's minus one ten that's 460 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: a standard big to where you're paying one hundred ten 461 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: to win one hundred, So you may win one hundred, 462 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: but you run the risk of it so they can 463 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: get their cut, so they can get their share. 464 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 5: But I still don't know, Like, okay, I understand what 465 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 5: big means. But where did the term come from? 466 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 7: I don't know. 467 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: V I g some uh, some guy you know, smoking 468 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: three packs a day, who thought, what's a good term 469 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: for this? What's a good term for y'all went and 470 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: y'all went for it? 471 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? 472 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so we do. 473 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 6: It's short for vigorous. It's called juice or rake. It's 474 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 6: the commissioner fees sports charges for taking your bet. 475 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: It is. 476 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: It is, thank you. 477 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: It's not even worth bringing up unless you're trying to 478 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: shame a friend on the air. 479 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like right now there, because Jonas is trying to 480 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: make a case. Oh we are two games over five hundred, 481 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: it's still. 482 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 6: Not good enough for our listeners. That's why I just 483 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 6: take my NFL bets because we've been red hot all 484 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 6: year long. Stomping out LeVar, stomping out Jonas. That's all 485 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: you need to listen to. Okay, all right, So. 486 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: We meaning you and whoever you're doing. 487 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 3: Now, that's a royal wi. The royal wei is talking 488 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: in the singular, even though it sounds plural. 489 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, dang, it's a it's a nickel and dime betting 490 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: operation that Brady runs. 491 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: But that's fine. If we're going to brag about it, 492 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: we can do right now, let's brag about this, dang. 493 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Up top, The National Championship Game average thirty point one 494 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: million viewers, according to Neils. It's also the second most 495 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: watched college football title game and cable telecast on record. 496 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: Ohio State's win over Oregon in January of twenty fifteen 497 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: still holds the record at thirty three point nine million 498 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: more from ESPN. It was the most viewed non NFL 499 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: sports telecast since Game seven of the twenty sixteen World 500 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Series between the Chicago Cubs and the Cleveland Indians. Up top, Brady, 501 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: I'm talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, that didn't work out. 502 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: So if I'm Fox Sports, why why do I not? 503 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: Why am I not making more of a stink? Like 504 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: Brady said the other week to get in on this, 505 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 5: why is why is Fox still boxed out on being 506 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 5: able to be a part of the diversification of the 507 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 5: college football playoffs and potentially you know, I love the 508 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 5: production of Fox. I love the way they produced their 509 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: morning shows, their pregame shows, the games. Why why wouldn't 510 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: they get in, Like, why wouldn't they be able to 511 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 5: get in on this? Like it's a great estwork. It's 512 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 5: a great question. 513 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: And the answer is that ESPN owns the rights to it, 514 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 6: so for the foreseeable future, until there is an expansion 515 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 6: that most likely goes beyond sixteen, let's stay at twenty four. 516 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 6: As of now, it would be ESPN or Disney, who 517 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 6: owns ESPN, will be the exclusive rights holder to it. 518 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: They haven't just boxed out Fox, They've boxed out CBS, NBC, 519 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 6: really anyone else who's willing to be a part of it. 520 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: TNT is the only other network that they've given access to. 521 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 6: After TNT missed out on basketball, they realized they needed 522 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 6: some sort of content, so they sublet out well, quite honestly, 523 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 6: some of the worst games. I think they had the 524 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 6: organ JMU game right if I'm not mistaken, which had 525 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 6: the Bears Packers on Fox, which which it's funny. So 526 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 6: the National Championship game. It peaked at like thirty three million, 527 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 6: but the average was thirty point one. They actually averaged, though, 528 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 6: per game, like fifteen million, which is pretty incredible all 529 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 6: things considered, because you did have two games Old Miss Tulane, 530 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 6: which is about a little over six million, and then 531 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: Oregon JMU was like four. 532 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: And a half somewhere in that ballpark. 533 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 6: So despite those terrible first round games, you still had 534 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 6: a fifteen. 535 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: Million average per game. 536 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 6: So the answer to that is, you know, again, Disney 537 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 6: has the exclusive rights to it until it expands. It's 538 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: gonna stay within Disney, and they get the you know, 539 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 6: pick and choose who they want to, you know, decide 540 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 6: to sub let it out to. And they obviously have 541 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 6: the tn T, but they used ESPN personnel. And I 542 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 6: think one of the most interesting things about that is 543 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 6: when I watched those games, you can't really tell if 544 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 6: it was it was on TNT because if they have 545 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 6: college like if they have college football coverage, and I 546 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 6: believe they do, like I think Champ Bailey some of 547 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: their guys do some studio work for them at Adam Lefko, 548 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 6: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, but. 549 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: To Keo and Victor Cruz maybe, yeah, I think so. 550 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 6: I think so, but there's not enough of a presence 551 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 6: throughout the course of the year where you actually like 552 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 6: recognize that. So when you see it, even though it 553 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 6: has TNT on it, you're like, oh, this is like 554 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 6: a ESPN broadcast. That's how it feels. So it's a 555 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: smart move for ESPN to keep controlling it. But I 556 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: still go back for a sport that is in such 557 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 6: a healthy spot in a sense of this it's number 558 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: two to the NFL. It's continually growing. I mean the 559 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: storylines behind Mendoza and Indiana and Kurt Signetti clearly drove this. 560 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: I mean, this isn't a knock on Miami. I think 561 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 6: there's Miami fans out there, But the intrigue about this 562 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 6: game was about this this coach, this quarterback, this team 563 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 6: that turned around what was one of the worst, if 564 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 6: not the worst FBS program into a championship program sixteen 565 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 6: or no undefeated like that was the story throughout the 566 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: course of the year. I mean, it captivated any football fan, 567 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 6: and the more you saw and the more you watched, 568 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 6: you're like, this is incredible. And again, it's not a 569 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: knock to Miami, but miight be lost A couple of 570 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: games throughout the course of the season. They had a 571 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 6: nice run, but it's a small alumni base. Their ratings 572 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 6: typically aren't that big anyway throughout the course of the year. 573 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 6: And if you actually look at the ratings throughout the 574 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: course of the year for the Big Ten, Indiana continually 575 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 6: grew and like drew a decent sized audience. So I 576 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 6: think if you are in college football right now and 577 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 6: you're a fan, you should be clamoring for there to 578 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 6: be maybe you'd say, more teams in the playoff, but 579 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 6: also like different perspectives in coverage. And because I'll keep 580 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: saying this, the bias towards the SEC is ridiculous. After 581 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: what we've witnessed now for three years in a row, 582 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 6: it's just time to realize there's way more parody in 583 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: college football. 584 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: You know. 585 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: Nick Staateman conphrase it however he wants. Paul Finebaum's out 586 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 6: there apologizing but really just making excuses seeing the SEC 587 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 6: is broken. 588 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: And then there's some people in Denier. 589 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 6: Booker McFarland still thinks the SEC is the best. Again, 590 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: went to the SEC school, so not surprising. I don't 591 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 6: have a dog in a fight. I played for an 592 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 6: independent and I've worked for Fox. We've covered the Big twelve, 593 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 6: we covered all I watched tape. 594 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: On all this. 595 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: There is a lot more parody in college football than 596 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 6: people realize. And right now the Big ten's at the top. 597 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: It just it is what it is. Those are the facts. 598 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: I have a dog in the fight. 599 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 5: And here's what I would ask this because I'm curious, 600 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: how did who did ESPN acquire or Disney acquire the 601 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 5: rights to the college football Playoff? Because again, we've had 602 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 5: the conversations before about crowning a national champion before there 603 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: was a playoff. And basically, you know, you could claim 604 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 5: you're the national title holder or you could say you 605 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 5: won the national title at one point in time. I mean, 606 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: you have the coach's poll and all that stuff, or 607 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: the right's poll. I get all that, but for what 608 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 5: it's worth, you know, if you want to say, hey, 609 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: Penn State went undefeated the same year Nebraska went undefeated, 610 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: who's the national champion? Like, okay, for some reason, there's 611 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 5: disagreement where it's like, okay, we're going to agree that 612 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 5: this is the public the media is going to say 613 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 5: this is the national champ. 614 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 4: So that's the national champ. 615 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 5: Where we're at right now, it's ESPN dictating who's the 616 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: national champ, well, not dictating it, but they control the 617 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 5: tournament that comes into play. Why went in fox Because 618 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 5: you're talking about because there's the end being Okay, go, 619 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: So this is the reason. 620 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 6: So back in twenty fourteen, when the playoff was first started, 621 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 6: ESPN obviously owned by Disney. They they they pitched for 622 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 6: the exclusive rights to it and then they paid billions 623 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: for it for only the fourteen playoff and so that 624 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: control then back in twenty fourteen allowed them to continue 625 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 6: to have a stranglehold on this all the way through 626 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 6: the extent through twenty thirty two. 627 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 5: Because that money to all the conferences, all the conferences 628 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 5: threw the playoffs the amount of money, right, Okay, that's 629 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 5: that's what I was trying to get to because why 630 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: would just create their own playoff? 631 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was thinking. 632 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't they create their own playoffs? 633 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 6: Building that stops them from doing that? But like again, 634 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 6: it's expensive and you have to find value in that, 635 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: and you have to have a business that operates within that. 636 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 6: So it's not easy as easily said and done. I mean, 637 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 6: if you really want to go down this warmole. I 638 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 6: don't think we have a ton of time for it, 639 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 6: but like you can, you could make you can ask 640 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 6: that question about any media rights, like how does a 641 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 6: TV network make any money off of whatever they're paying 642 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: a ton of money for? You know, like TGL is 643 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 6: something that I'm heavily involved in and looking at. 644 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: And you know, ESPN was paying. 645 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 6: Thirty five million for the past two years for those rights, 646 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: and those rights are about up, So like, what are 647 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 6: those rights going to go for? Their average viewership's a 648 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 6: little over five hundred thousand per match? Is is that 649 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 6: going to warrant them doubling what they initially had paid 650 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 6: for because the content they had in that time slot 651 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 6: beforehand was about one hundred and fifty thousand, maybe two 652 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 6: hundred thousand viewers, So they're getting double what they paid for. 653 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: But when you put it into. 654 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 6: Comparison to like a college football playoff game that gets 655 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 6: fifteen million average viewership for those games, and ESPN was 656 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 6: supposedly trying to sell us for like fifty million a pob, 657 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 6: you kind of look at the economics that go, Man, 658 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 6: it might be hard to make our money back in 659 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 6: So it's obviously all all business conversation. 660 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 5: Sure, sure, and that's the advertisers. People like that, that 661 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 5: fifty million and all the money and the money and 662 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: the money, that's the advertisers. I mean, you're getting your 663 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: money through howls. Yeah, but I mean to your point. 664 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 6: Though, hopefully, hopefully they can get it done at some 665 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 6: point for the expansion, Fox other networks can get involved, 666 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 6: because I think how the NFL presents their sport is 667 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 6: the best way to get it done. And by the way, 668 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 6: for the ones who get it done. Granger offers access 669 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 6: to over a million products and a scale to deliver 670 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 6: when and where you need them. 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And 709 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: also apparently I am Eric Carmon today in La It's 710 00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: that mat. 711 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: Did Eric carbon I we know it? 712 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean that's how far he said. 713 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: I look like him. 714 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't, but he said it. 715 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 7: Patty, you missed it. 716 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: Patty, You're a way too pleasant for this world. 717 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 718 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even a compliment at this point, 719 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: but we'll take it. 720 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: I will take it. 721 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 9: Well, it's stop very casey mystic time, guys, and the 722 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 9: first one I got. 723 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 4: For you here. 724 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 9: So big Ben Roethlisberger is back in the news. 725 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: He was actually on his podcast Footballing. 726 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 9: He was talking about rebuilding or like what the Steelers 727 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 9: should do to rebuild their organization. 728 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: Just give me some pointers in there. 729 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 9: We actually have some sound where he kind of had 730 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 9: his views on this. 731 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: Give listen. 732 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 12: I would not draft a quarterback for at least two 733 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 12: to three years. That's just just my opinion. The issue 734 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 12: that I see with a lot of teams is they 735 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 12: get a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. 736 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 12: I think it should be the other way around. I 737 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 12: think you should build a team and put your quarterback 738 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 12: in it. It happened to me there was a I 739 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 12: had a great football team. They plugged me in. 740 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 7: We had a veteran group. It just it works. 741 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 12: It works better than trying to grab a quarterback and 742 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 12: be Okay, we're gonna build around this quarterba, because then 743 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 12: you're it's gonna take you four or five years to 744 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 12: build around that quarterback. He's probably gonna look like Pooh 745 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 12: up to it, and then you're like, is he really 746 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 12: our guy? 747 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 4: Is he not our guy? 748 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: That's realistic. 749 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 3: Well, I like how we talked about Pooh, you know, 750 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: I feel like that was a nice little probom. 751 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: The idea that a team would get three years to 752 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: to just wait and draft a quarterback and build around 753 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: him nowadays just doesn't seem possible. 754 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 6: I also feel like there's varying years of like what 755 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 6: the quarterbacks look like this year Fernanda Mendoza then who 756 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 6: were talking about, you know, like there's a big drop 757 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 6: a Tice Hymsen out of Alabama, Like there's a big 758 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 6: drop off to like who that next guy is and 759 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 6: probably the evaluation of him in next year's draft. In 760 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven, different story. So it's also like how 761 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 6: you would time that or hit that right? Like I think, 762 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 6: if you find the guy, you have to take the guy. 763 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 6: But you're constantly trying to build your roster anyway, Like 764 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 6: aren't you trying to you know, every single draft, every 765 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 6: single year, trying to make sure you're as good as 766 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 6: you could be at every position. 767 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks are going in the first round? 768 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 4: You would think, you would hope is he the only one? 769 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 6: I would say I would set the over under at 770 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 6: one and a half and I think it'll be one 771 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 6: maybe two. 772 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: Wow. So Dante Moore going back kind. 773 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: Of that changed things. There's a's a there's a number 774 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: of guys. 775 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 5: You know what else we got Patty, I don't understand 776 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 5: his perspective that that is what he came from, that 777 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 5: that's what he he started his career in. And I mean, 778 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 5: I would say, if you have a really really good organization, 779 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 5: like he didn't add that, you got to take into consideration. 780 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 5: He was added to a veteran heavy team with a 781 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 5: lot of great leadership. But it was it's a great 782 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 5: organization too. See, Ben didn't have to experience a poorly 783 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: ran you know, organization. You can't take that for you 784 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 5: can't take that light either. So I mean you, you know, 785 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 5: I had a ton of great vets that I was 786 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 5: around my rookie year. Our organization was crap, and that 787 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: talent did not it did not outperform the dysfunction, you know. 788 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 5: So there's always a whole lot of balancing that has 789 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 5: to be connected to what been through out there. It's 790 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 5: not that simple. So you got a quarterback, Take the quarterback, 791 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 5: go ahead. 792 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 9: All right, I got one more for us. So Jannis 793 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 9: was in the news recently. On Wednesday, he had a 794 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 9: press conference after getting blown out by the thunder. He 795 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 9: called out his teammates, saying, we're not playing hard, we 796 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 9: aren't doing the right thing, We're not playing together. Chemistry 797 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 9: is not there, and guys are being selfish. Called them out. 798 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: Guys, Well, what does he Carry's not gonna be there 799 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: much longer anyways. 800 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the deadline? February fifth? 801 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always during Super Bowl week. We always have 802 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: to cover a trade. When we're sitting there at radio 803 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: road three in the morning, we. 804 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: Don't have to, but dang, who's going Who's going to 805 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: give up? 806 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 10: What? 807 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 4: Who's going where? 808 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: Jahn Moran's probably gonna get dealt. 809 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 4: I know that. 810 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't use. 811 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 4: Too bad. 812 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: What has wrong with you, dude,