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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and

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Speaker 2: there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there. And

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Speaker 2: this is the two thy sixteen Stuff You Should Know

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Speaker 2: Super Christmas Holiday Spectacular glad Tidings Edition.

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Speaker 3: In three d oh nice and stinkovision. Nice smellovision. That

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Speaker 3: was a real thing, you know, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a great idea that didn't really pan out

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Speaker 2: very well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it didn't pan out very well.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, funny, I know what you meant. Uh so,

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Speaker 3: my friend, I look forward to this every year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: me too, because, as I've said before, I save up

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Speaker 3: my vacation and take an elmmentary school break for a

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Speaker 3: solid three weeks at the end of every year, right,

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Speaker 3: which also means you get a bit of a break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a de facto decision on my behalf as well.

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Speaker 3: And this is it after in one hour, roughly you're

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Speaker 3: not going to see me again till next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know. I like to get small over the holidays.

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Speaker 2: That's cool, man. I don't blame you. I do too,

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Speaker 2: just hold up in the secretly, I'm secretly fine with

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Speaker 2: you making that decision for me particular one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so are you?

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Speaker 2: So? Are you full of cheer glad tidings.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm in a silly mood. So this will who

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Speaker 3: knows where this goes?

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Speaker 2: How's Jerry? Jerry, you're feeling pretty happy?

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Speaker 3: She is?

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Speaker 2: She's good.

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Speaker 3: Just gave a thumbs up. Yeah, she's fresh faced, but.

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Speaker 2: She tailed Are her hauls decked?

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, double decked?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess we should welcome everybody chuck to the

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Speaker 2: Christmas spectacular. Tell you, first off, to be sure to

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Speaker 2: start a fire somewhere in your house. Yes, put on sweater, maybe,

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Speaker 2: put on some slippers, put on pajamas, make yourself some eggnog,

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Speaker 2: hot butter room, something like that, and just sit down

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Speaker 2: and enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we did our holiday special every year we

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Speaker 3: like to cover. I'm always afraid we're going to recover

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Speaker 3: something which I actually pitched, something we had already covered.

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Speaker 2: I've got a list, so don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, great, well then let's ring in the holiday year.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Also, we should say, if there are any little

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Speaker 2: true believers among you, you may not want to let them

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Speaker 2: listen to this one.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there, I was going to give a warning.

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Speaker 3: They can listen to most of it, but there is

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Speaker 3: one feature of the show where where you may not

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Speaker 3: want your kids to listen to some of the detail

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Speaker 3: the deats, and we're going to give you a warning

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Speaker 3: before that comes on. Yeah, so you can.

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Speaker 2: It'll sound like this wringling knowing that's the Christmas warning.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody sit back as we begin our annual

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Speaker 2: Christmas special. So Chuck, we're gonna hop in our over

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Speaker 2: there sleigh and head on over to Catalonia. Yeah, parts

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Speaker 2: of Spain, parts of Spain, part of Spain, and there's

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Speaker 2: a Catalan tradition. There's a couple of them actually that

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Speaker 2: are really interesting and are scatological in nature. And the

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Speaker 2: first one is called Cagatillo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I had never heard of this, but I put

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Speaker 3: out and you'll see you later in the show. We

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Speaker 3: put out a call on face book for some unusual

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Speaker 3: family traditions from listeners, and a couple of people mentioned this,

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Speaker 3: like saying, we don't do this, but I've heard of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a thing, and in large parts of Spain, Portugal,

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Speaker 2: but specifically in the Catalan region of Spain, cagatillo, which

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Speaker 2: means poop log basically in Catalan, is a It's a

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Speaker 2: Christmas tradition that starts on December eighth when the family

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Speaker 2: gets around and while they've gone out, I think either

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Speaker 2: made one or they purchased a cagatillo, which is a

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Speaker 2: Even if you bought one fully featured, there's still some

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Speaker 2: So with with Kagatia, with the log, he's got a face,

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Speaker 2: And so the family brings him home, and on December eighth,

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Speaker 2: they get him prepared for the Christmas season. Right, They

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Speaker 2: wrap them in a blanket, and they basically wrap them

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Speaker 3: Keep him warm, and to maybe incubate what dwells inside

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Speaker 3: of the log. Yeah, because that's where we're headed with us.

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Speaker 3: They feed this thing orange peels, a Spanish nugat called

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Speaker 2: Right. So the kids every night while they're caring for cagatiu,

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Speaker 2: they prepare to extract the stuff from cagatio. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they do that by by hitting cagato with sticks. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not that not the original in English, it translates

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Speaker 3: literally as poop log, poop torone, hazel nuts and cottage cheese.

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Speaker 2: And so once they've beaten Kagatio with a stick enough times,

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Speaker 2: it's an amazing, wonderful little Christmas tradition.

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: But that's not the only unusual poop based cautle on

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Speaker 3: more than one. How do you pronounce this that coganer, coganaire, cogganaire, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: pretty close. So this is this is just a it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And and with the little traditional figurine, there's a

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Speaker 2: even in a joking manner. It wasn't. Originally, it was

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Speaker 2: meant because the Kaganair represented things like fertility or good

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Speaker 2: time it's definitely evolved, and now you can find Kagan

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Speaker 2: Air figures of all sorts of famous people, from Barack

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it was it good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty great. See three pooped out a nut

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Speaker 2: who knew this one was going to be so uh gross?

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Speaker 3: on December tenth, I'm sorry, December twenty ten, there was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Barcelona.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at a picture. I couldn't find any

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Speaker 3: Nice. Well, my sister lives in Portugal. Now I'm going

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Speaker 3: Uh, should we take a break, No, Josh, we shouldn't. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's ad free with one hundred percent more Christmas.

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Speaker 3: That's right, all right, So let's pile on our sleigh

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Speaker 3: and let's head on over and see how doctor Crampis

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over in the Alps, in the Alpine regions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, of Austria. So well, let's talk about Crampis. It's

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Speaker 3: a it's a weird thing, but then it's not any

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Speaker 2: He's this. No, it's really not. And it actually makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense too, because you know, Santa Claus

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Speaker 2: put in this one Smithsonian article I read, Crampis is

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Speaker 2: the Yen to Saint Nick's yang. Yeah, and they actually

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's the legend, is that Crampus shows up.

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Speaker 3: Crampus is sort of a beast of sorts, a demon,

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Speaker 2: With a long tongue. And Claus, his name, in fact,

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Speaker 3: Believe, Yeah, what's that, uh, Crampin' huh was it that simple?

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Speaker 3: So Crampus he shows up. He shows up in the

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Speaker 3: as Crampas Snacht or Crampus Knight. And uh, that's also

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Speaker 3: a Nicholas taug or Saint Nicholas date. December six is.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they show up on December fifth, the night

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Speaker 2: Right. So what's interesting is like on Crampus Knocked the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which exists in our imaginations and in Culver City, California.

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Speaker 3: That's right, of course, we're talking about a Charlie Brown

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and after all these years, is right. It's been

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Speaker 2: Which is kind of Charlie Brown, just can't come in first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They're like, we need this music because we love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically everyone who had their TV set turned on

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Speaker 3: Yep, it won a Peabody, it won a Emmy Award.

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Speaker 2: You watch Bonanza? I never did. Sure, Yeah, I never

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you were. It was probably not a

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Speaker 3: And they cut that Coca Cola sign out of there.

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Speaker 2: We're Royal Crown Cola. We don't want to advertise on

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Speaker 2: Well, they had cut out the Peanuts gang throwing snowballs

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00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: that it can on a fence scene to make room

437
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: for more ads, and it wasn't restored until nineteen ninety seven.

438
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, well they did the right thing.

439
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an important part.

440
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: And I'll be watching it this year and every year

441
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: to come till I got sure.

442
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: Charles, Yes, Charles, it would not be our Christmas special

443
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: if we didn't teach people how to make booze in

444
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: new and interesting ways.

445
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. This has become a bit of a tradish around here.

446
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a holiday drink.

447
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and.

448
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah that one.

449
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to make this one. No, I haven't

450
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: okay yet.

451
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you always follow through. I don't.

452
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I have to say I've still not had

453
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: a hot buttered rum.

454
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. See, my whole problem comes it's an effort thing.

455
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: Like I get out the bottle of bourbon and the

456
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm just like, well, I'll just pour this.

457
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 2: I really, I really don't even need a glass. I

458
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: can cut my hand and like bourbon down it.

459
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's I should really put in the effort.

460
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: This one does sound like a little bit of effort

461
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: until you really think about it. It's not that bad.

462
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: So so down in the Caribbean, it gets so hot

463
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: that you wonder do they know it's Christmas time at all? Yes? Yes,

464
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: they do actually, and in in the Caribbean, in Jamaica

465
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 2: in particular, there is a drink, a refreshing cold punch

466
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: called sorrel punch that apparently screams Christmas. It's part and

467
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: parcel with Christmas down there. But again, since it's hot,

468
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: they need something that's cool and refreshing. So we're gonna

469
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: go with Jamaican sorrel punch this year as the Christmas

470
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: drink because it sounds pretty great.

471
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: All right, Well, should we just start with the ingredients?

472
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we should we should say the first ingredient,

473
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: sorrel can be really confusing up here in the state.

474
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the deal there?

475
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: So soirel is apparently a part or a flower of

476
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: the hibiscus plant, but it's not what those of us

477
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: in the United States would think of as the high

478
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: biscus flower. It's a different flower. And you can't use

479
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: hibiscus flowers or you'll die, You'll be haunted by Danny

480
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: the the You want to use straight up dried sorrel

481
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: plant flowers, okay, And you can actually find them online

482
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: for like five six bucks on like Amazon, or if

483
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: you're if you have an international market, you can probably

484
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: find them there in that whole like cellophane dried herb

485
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: section from other parts of the world, they're probably going

486
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: to be there. But you want to start with those.

487
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: All right? A couple ounces? Yep, all right, that sounds good.

488
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: I can do that.

489
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: You want to get some fresh ginger, where do you

490
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: do that? You should be able to find that anywhere.

491
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: You want to make two one inch cubes peeled and

492
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: then finally chop them three cloves. Is a good good

493
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: next ingredient?

494
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can taste it in my head.

495
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's got like coming together Christmas spices. And

496
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: then this guy didn't use this this in his recipe,

497
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: but I also saw that you could at this point

498
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: add orange peels without the pith. You never want to

499
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: use the pith with an orange peel, and cinnamon sticks.

500
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: And you take all these things and you put them

501
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: in a heat proof bowl, and you boil five cups

502
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: of water in a saucepan and pour it over the

503
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: sorrel mixture. Okay, so basically what you're doing is making

504
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: a sorrel tea. Because you let it steep for at

505
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: least four hours or overnight.

506
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: You're putting together your roue.

507
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: I guess I would say tea is closer than rue

508
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: the mother batch. There you go, you're making the mother bat.

509
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: None of these things are applicable.

510
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: So you let you let the mother batch tea ru

511
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: sit overnight and just steep. Right, And then you want

512
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: to make a simple syrup.

513
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say if you make your

514
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: own simple syrup, if you have your own favorite recipe,

515
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: you can just use that, right sure?

516
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, special, No, it doesn't have to be special. You

517
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: just want to make a one to one simple syrup.

518
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: And since this is the Caribbean, you probably want to

519
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: just go with demorera that raw brown, not brown sugar,

520
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: but brownish in color. But de Moorera sugar is probably

521
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: a good one to use. But you make a simple syrup,

522
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: not a complicated syrup. No, a simple syrup. You get

523
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: yourself some good amber rum. Yeah, I would recommend getting

524
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: the good stuff because this is Christmas, guys.

525
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: That one's a year.

526
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: And then you add for you, you take the tea

527
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: that you've let steep for four hours or overnight, and

528
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: you strain out the ingredients in there, so you just

529
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: have the tea and then you add to it the

530
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: simple syrup in the rum, stir it up little darling

531
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: nice and then and then you add some ice cubes

532
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: and then garnished with lime and orange slices.

533
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: All right, So as far as the amounts, we're talking

534
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: a couple of ounces of the sorrel flower. We already

535
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: said that. The how much ginger? Three whole cloves, five

536
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: and three quarters cups of water, three quarters cups of

537
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: sugar for your syrup, one and a half cups of

538
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: amber rum, a little more if you're you know, yeah,

539
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: to taste and then you know garnish at will Yep,

540
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: sounds delicious. I might have to make that this year.

541
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: I cannot wait, man, I have the sorrel ordered.

542
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: Oh you do already? All right, Well I'm making it up,

543
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: all right. Maybe you can bring it to our our

544
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: holiday sauna party.

545
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: You got it. I'll bring I'll have added rue to it,

546
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: some flour, flour and butter. It's just floating in clumps and.

547
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: The man, that sounds good. Yeah, all right, so let's

548
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: hop back in the sleigh. It's cooled off a bit

549
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: because that took longer than I've thought. Yeah, so let's

550
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: heat this sucker back up and head over to another

551
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: part of the internet. All right, so we're back. We're

552
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: out of the sleigh and into the frying pan. Actually

553
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 3: that's not true, because that made it sound like we're

554
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: about to cook something.

555
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: You are in a silly mood today, aren't you.

556
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: I am. I think I've I think I'm mentally gone

557
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: on vacation.

558
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: You're giddy with delirium.

559
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: I am totally.

560
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: I like it. Man, you should mentally go on vacation

561
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: a lot. It's a good fit.

562
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: So we're gonna talk a little about missus claws. It

563
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: sort of occurred to me when we were putting this together.

564
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, you hear about Saint

565
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: Nick all the time and nowadays you see his wife

566
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: in the photo some but where did she come from?

567
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Who is this woman? And I didn't know, but she

568
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: has not been around the entire time. Sanna used to

569
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 3: be very much the batch.

570
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize that either. This article puts it

571
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: as kind of a loaner, which is funny. Yeah, but yeah,

572
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: he was given a wife finally for the first time

573
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: in eighteen forty nine. And there's an American author named

574
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: James Reese. And apparently there's an author named James Reese

575
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: that's working today. Oh and he's hogged up all of

576
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: the Google search engine patches. Cannot find any mention of

577
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: the other one. But there was apparently an author named

578
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: James Rees who wrote a short story entitled The Christmas Legend,

579
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: and it was published in eighteen forty nine.

580
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what gave him the right. Don't get

581
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: me wrong, I love it, But why did he get

582
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: to say, like, you know what, I'm going to just

583
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: write in a missus clause?

584
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: I guess literary license yeah.

585
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so is it canon? Did this get approval from

586
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: I guess George Lucas.

587
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: I think that just gets worked out over time, you know.

588
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so probably huh if enough people buy

589
00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: into it.

590
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, although it sounds like she was kind of a

591
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: device that he used because he out of necessity, because

592
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: in the story, mister and Missus Claws are like delivering

593
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: presents to a family, right, And it turns out that

594
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: there is no mister and Missus Claus. It was really

595
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: a friendly couple that the family was friends with who

596
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: had dressed up as mister and Missus Claws.

597
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the burn bombs, right, So.

598
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: The guy turns out to have no imagination whatsoever for

599
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: a short story writer.

600
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Yes, but she did stick a little bit, and then

601
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 3: she really started sticking in later years. She started kind

602
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: of popping up more and more in magazines and stories,

603
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: and then she showed up in a big way in

604
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: a picture book by Catherine Lee Bates, And this is

605
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: when she really took hold and everyone was like, Hey,

606
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: I love Sanna having a wife. She's super cool. She's

607
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: a strong lady that she is the woman behind the

608
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: man in the backbone of that whole operation. Right, And

609
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: who can argue with that?

610
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Nobody, I mean, everybody liked the fact that Sanna had

611
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: finally settled down.

612
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: He wasn't just sewing his oats across the world in

613
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: Chimney's all over the world.

614
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Seriously, baby, I'll give you a riding my sleigh. You

615
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: know something that struck me that I hadn't really realized, Chuck,

616
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: missus Claus does not have an official first name.

617
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: Well, I looked into that, did you No, did you

618
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: find one? Apparently with artistic license, you can just name

619
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: or whatever you.

620
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Want, right, Okay, that's what I found as well.

621
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: And they're like, you know, Monica, Erica, Martha.

622
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matha, which apparently is a typo.

623
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Was it?

624
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

625
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: Maybe I wasn't sure. I didn't know if that was

626
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: just a variation.

627
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure it was a variation now, but at

628
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: the time it was probably a type.

629
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: It was like a printer didn't have an R.

630
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: So they were just right, exactly fine, just forget the R.

631
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: It's the nineteen twenties.

632
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: No one cares Sandra that Sandra Claus. That sort of

633
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 3: rings a little bit. Who would you pick? What's your favorite?

634
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: Probably Rita that's what I was gonna go with. Yeah,

635
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: or Mary Mary Claus. Yeah, but because I mean also

636
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: you could.

637
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: Say Mary like emy r r y oh sure. The

638
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: one I do not agree with, I should say. The

639
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: two I do not agree with are Monica and Jessica.

640
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: Those are not missus Clau's names.

641
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: Monica Claus.

642
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, it's a little odd. Nothing nothing against

643
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: the name Monica, but just for missus Claus. Come on,

644
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: even Monica's can agree with that one?

645
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

646
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: And then Jessica, that's just too. It's Jessica Rabbit's name

647
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: that has no business being part of missus Claus.

648
00:34:52,680 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: Agreed, Charles, mm hmm.

649
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: You found something else great on the internet that I

650
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: just found very heartening. It is a it's a way oh.

651
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: Ingle dingle jingle. Yes, parents, you may not want your

652
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: kids to hear this part. It is not dirty and

653
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: filthy or weird in any way. But depending how you

654
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: run Christmas in your household, if you know what I'm saying,

655
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: we just want to give you fair warning. So we'll

656
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: give you Let's just do a little Christmas music for

657
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: like five seconds. Oh good, gokay, okay.

658
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: All right, hopefully you are not a psychopath, and you

659
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 2: got rid of any little kids who still believe.

660
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Yes, and hopefully Jerry inserted the music from the movie

661
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Psycho instead of Christmas music.

662
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: That would be wonderful, Yeah, because people would be like,

663
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: what are they?

664
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: What happened?

665
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: And understand it until we came back.

666
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: All right? So I found this This is actually new

667
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 3: this year on the social medis. This lady named Charity

668
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Hutchinson had a Facebook post that has really taken off.

669
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: Last I looked earlier that was gez had about thirty

670
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: thousand likes and has been shared quite a few times.

671
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: And she had a solution in her family on what

672
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: the conundrum parents face by lying to their children bald

673
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: face lying for years about the existence of a real

674
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: human Santa Claus as a person.

675
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Right, So she, I guess tried this with her oldest

676
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: her firstborn recently, and they've both in the last couple

677
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: of years.

678
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

679
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fell for her client's sinker. And in a way,

680
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: it's a really great thing to do. But at the

681
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: same time, you're basically you're getting out of one lie

682
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: by creating another different lie.

683
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: Right, Oh not really?

684
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Okay, All right, well, let's let everybody judge for themselves.

685
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Let's describe this, okay, So Charity says that you start

686
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: off by taking your kid out for coffee. I didn't

687
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: realize that was the thing that you do with kids

688
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: these days, but apparently it is. So you take your

689
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: kid out for coffee or whatever, maybe a milk. Sure, yeah,

690
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: we'll let's go with one of those too. But you

691
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: take your kid out and you just basically say, hey,

692
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: you know what, I've noticed you doing a lot of

693
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: really great, kind, compassionate things this year, for example, this

694
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: and that, and the time you beat up that bully

695
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: who pushed down that smaller kid, that kind of thing,

696
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: the time you laid on that bird who had no

697
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: chance of surviving without his mother. Just some nice stuff, right,

698
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: And you say, you know, son or daughter, I think

699
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: you have become compassionate enough and old enough to become

700
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: a Santa Claus.

701
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: And you drop your mic right, and you leave your

702
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: kid in Starbucks and you just walk down the street

703
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: feeling good about yourself.

704
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: You get your car, you drive off to California to

705
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: start a new life with a new name.

706
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: So no, you say, I want you, you're old not

707
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: to become Santa Claus. And then your kid is like

708
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: what yeah, and you say, get ready for your mind

709
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: to be blown, kid, because guess what. Here's the deal

710
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: with Sanna. Sanna is a construct sort of basically is

711
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: what you're trying to do is say you can become

712
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: Santa because Sanna is someone who just very kindly and

713
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 3: unselfishly gives something to others anonymously.

714
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's being Santa is anybody could be Santa.

715
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: As long as you want to give to people just

716
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: for the sheer joy of making other people happy exactly

717
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: is Santa. And anybody who does that can be Santa.

718
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: And so hey, I've got an idea. Why don't you

719
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: try starting starting it out this year, Like, just pick

720
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: somebody that you know and like and say, find out

721
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: without them knowing what's going on, something that they really want,

722
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: and then go get it for him and wrap it

723
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: up and leave it for him. But here's the key.

724
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: You have to say that it's from Santa on the

725
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: little card or tag and you can never tell them.

726
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: That it was you.

727
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: That's pretty great, Yeah, And she backs it up by

728
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: making the point that being sand is not about getting credit,

729
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: it's about just giving for the joy of giving and

730
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: making other people happy. So yeah, just never tell so

731
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: that in that way you become Santa.

732
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it gives the kid all these lessons, you know,

733
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: understanding about what's going on around the world in their

734
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: own neighborhood. Maybe this article says it gives some providence

735
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: over their own innocence. It's a great point. I think

736
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: she said that it works so great with her older kid.

737
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: Now that kid is in on it, yep, trying to

738
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: help the the new batch about to lose their innocence. Yeah.

739
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is chuck and and I don't maybe

740
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: you know and I don't, But is there some standard

741
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: way that besides this that people recommend breaking the news

742
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: to kids.

743
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: Or well, I don't know about a standard, but there's

744
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: lots of different opinions on that. I put up a

745
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: Facebook post tangentially tangentially related to this, and people were

746
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: just kind of throwing out their ideas, and one of

747
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: them I think they got the most likes was this

748
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: guy that was like he does has never described Santa

749
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: as a person, he said, he has always from the

750
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: beginning described Santa as a like I said, as a construct.

751
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Is that you don't say construct. You're three year old,

752
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: but you as just a part of the Christmas spirit.

753
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: It's a thing and not a person. Yeah, who literally

754
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: comes to your house. And he was like, I can't

755
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: tell any difference, Like they'd love that just as much

756
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: as I did, thinking it was a real guy. And

757
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: he said, you know, they see the Christmas specials and

758
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: they get that it's a made up thing, but it's

759
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: just a part of the whole idea of Christmas. Right,

760
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: So he was just kind of kind of truthful about

761
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Yeah, and they're still delighted with Sanna

762
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: and when they see Santa and the mall, they aren't like,

763
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: you're a construct, although that would be great.

764
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: It would be you did some part of you would

765
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: be pretty proud of your kid for that.

766
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think is interesting though. I mean I don't

767
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna do yet, so I got to

768
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: think this over.

769
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean there's probably parents listening right now

770
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: they're like, oh man, yeah, I don't want to do this,

771
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: but this is a pretty good out. So everybody give

772
00:41:47,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: Charity Hutchinson a pat on the back. Oh all right, Chuck,

773
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: it's almost time for soul punch.

774
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: That's right, we're gonna wrap it up here. We crowdsource

775
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: some Facebook traditions from our listeners, and I asked for

776
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: specifically unusual traditions, and I wedded through, waded through the

777
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: ninety percent that were not unusual in any way, and

778
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: managed to find some pretty interesting things. Yeah.

779
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I was I don't know what percentage

780
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: I didn't see what percentage of the actual ideas submitted

781
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: this is, but some people have some pretty cool little

782
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: traditions that I just love. Agreed, So you want to start?

783
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Victoria krum she says that on her father's

784
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: side of the family, he was I think he was Polish,

785
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: his Polish roots, and so in order to honor their

786
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: Polish roots, every year, their father makes a paupers meal

787
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: for Christmas Eve. Instead of you know, some big lavish,

788
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: extravagant thing. They made sour out soup and Parochi's and

789
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: the most reasonable priced cold water fish available.

790
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it kind of honors like the humble roots

791
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: that their family has.

792
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. So Victoria Kroum, good on you for

793
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: that one.

794
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: Nice. So how about Emily Ruth Vander.

795
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: Arks, Yes, this is actually a lot of people had this,

796
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: So this is a thing.

797
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: So her mom hides a pickle ornament on the Christmas

798
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: tree somewhere right, and on Christmas Morning, everybody tries to

799
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: find it. Whoever finds it first gets a gift. And

800
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: Emily said that it started out just being like, oh, hey,

801
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: here's a piece of chocolate. Yeah, and the person would

802
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: just be like, just throw it to the ground. But

803
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: she said that it's gotten better over the years, so

804
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: now it's like up to like a Starbucks gift card.

805
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: Whoa yeah, yeah, I saw a lot of people with

806
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: this pickle thing though, so obviously it's a thing, and

807
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: she said it's regionalized.

808
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: She said that her husband is a master ace at

809
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: finding the pickle. Yeah, and he wins it every year.

810
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: So Champ pickle Finder, Emily's husband, Emily's husband, So thanks, Emily.

811
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: Ruth vander Ark. That's a great name.

812
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: Yep. Jessica Evans Totin Tautan, this is pretty good. I

813
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: love weird dads. After my parents got divorced, my dad

814
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: was in charge of getting and wrapping his own Christmas

815
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: presents for me and my three older sisters, and he

816
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 3: had a hard time knowing what to get us, so

817
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: he made a tradition of buying us a Barbie doll

818
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: every year along with a gift receipt, and he called

819
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: it a creative gift card. I just love that, basically, like,

820
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: I know you're going to take this back, but here,

821
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: here's something at least.

822
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 2: And he also has a really fun time rejecting traditional

823
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: Christmas wrapping, right, So yeah, he would just put it

824
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: in a garbage bag for him this and then apparently

825
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 2: in his older years he's like, I can do better

826
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: than this, So now he goes to like thrift stores

827
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: in ventedge shops and finds old carpet or old briefcases.

828
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: That's awesome, and puts them in there. Yeah, which is

829
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: super eighties, like delivering a Barbie doll in a briefcase.

830
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's still doing it. They still get the barbie.

831
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: They're well into adulthood now, she points out, and he

832
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: still gets them the barbie every year. So I think

833
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: that's a really cool thing. And mister Evans, if that

834
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 3: is your name, sir, I salute you. Yep.

835
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: So Catherine Joy Figley, Yeah, this is a good one.

836
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 2: She said that her husband's family wraps presence. They also

837
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: reject traditional Christmas paper wrapping paper, so they they kind

838
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: of have like a friendly competition or theme going where

839
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: they find the weirdest thing they can wrap it in.

840
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite is the unused diaper. Yeah that's good.

841
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: My favorite birthday wrapping paper?

842
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I like it. Subversive.

843
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: It is extremely saying like, yeah, I'm gonna use wrapping paper.

844
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna it for this particular holiday.

845
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. So that's from Catherine Joy Figley.

846
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: Keep that going, all right. Check.

847
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: There's this cat named Nick Meller who has a great

848
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: Christmas Morning tradition with his mom, who he calls his mom.

849
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: So he probably spells color with a you.

850
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: I think it's a lady too, Nick.

851
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it could be Nicole, I guess yeah.

852
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: I think she's from Australia.

853
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well every Christmas morning, this would actually make

854
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot of sense that she would be from Australia.

855
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: Every Christmas morning, her mom and she get up very

856
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: early and they go to the beach and this is

857
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: where the Australian clue it kicks in before the hordes

858
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: of people get there. The says are not very popular

859
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: in the Northern Hemisphere in Christmas time. But she says

860
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: that they grab a bottle of champagne and a huge

861
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: bucket of cherries and that's what they have for breakfast.

862
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so neat.

863
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: Great Christmas tradition.

864
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: Let me see this one. I love, Tanya floyd Ellis.

865
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 3: Growing up, my mom and father in law, my grandpa,

866
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: would pass to each other a ba humbug can. They

867
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: both relish, disgusting and just sorry and disguising the can.

868
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: Don't worry, it gets disgusting to make it unrecognizable as

869
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: a rat present. And some of the more memorable additions

870
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: to the can, like you put junk in It was

871
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: a year's worth of Grandpa's tonios in there. That was

872
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: very nice. Pile of dog poop gathered in January and

873
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: left to cure until the next December. A clump of

874
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: ketchup packets held together by one broken packet now acting

875
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: as glue. I love that, Thank you, Tania floyd Ellis.

876
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: That's a good one, all right. So how about Sarah

877
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: Flora Monte's Christmas tradition. Yes, so every year on Christmas Eve,

878
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: her whole family has an ice cream eating contest with

879
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: all of her cousins. Yeah, so whoever can finish a

880
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: half a gallon of ice cream within an hour. And

881
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: here's the key without throwing it up. When's a substantial

882
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: amount of cash? She says, She doesn't say how much,

883
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: she does use the word substantial. So she says that

884
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: it's nearly impossible to do this, and it's only been

885
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: done three times before out of probably one hundred attempts.

886
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that they haven't been doing this for a century.

887
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: But just if you take the number of people who've

888
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: tried it over the years, yeah, you come up with

889
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: a hundred.

890
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: She means, yeah, I think so.

891
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: She says that a lot of people can finish but

892
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: not hold it down, and that's where that key comes in.

893
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of vomiting going on at Sarah

894
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: Flora Monte's house on Christmas Eve.

895
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she posted pictures too. She posted a couple

896
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: one of the entire family sitting around with each with

897
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: a gallon half gallon of ice cream in front of them,

898
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: and then one of a couple of people doing that

899
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: with her her grandmother just like bitter and staring at them.

900
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: She said, her grandmother hates it, so they're going to

901
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: do it as long as she's around.

902
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: It's very nice. Here's one from Norma Mullen that's really

903
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: really neat. This is not gross or anything. Our family

904
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 3: has a tablecloth that goes on the Christmas dinner table

905
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: every year and everyone signs it with a fabric pen.

906
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: And they've been doing this since nineteen ninety four, so

907
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: they use the same tablecloth and they're able to look

908
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: back every year and look at all these memories and

909
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: along with obviously people they've lost over the years and

910
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: people that they've gained over the years. So that is

911
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 3: just super cool. It's older than most of her cousins,

912
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 3: and she can see how much their family has grown

913
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: year by year.

914
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

915
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: That's really nice.

916
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: And then how about Ryan Bradfields.

917
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.

918
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: Ryan Bradfield's mom's family, who says it's a large Sicilian bunch.

919
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: They have a wind up et toy that they got

920
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 2: in the eighties and somehow it just became family tradition

921
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: for them to dress up the et doll as different

922
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: character and then they use it as a Christmas tree

923
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: topper for their grandparents tree.

924
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah that's pretty great.

925
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: So ET's been like Elvis, NBA player, Dolly parton your

926
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: favorite Yeah a show girl, And it turns out obviously weirdly,

927
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: but one of Bradfield's cousins married a member of the

928
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: or a friend I guess of this Spielberg family. So

929
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: they're trying to get them pictures of the et dressed up.

930
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: Over the years.

931
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure no one's ever tried to get Steven Spielberg

932
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: a funny et picture, right. This one is very sweet.

933
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: This is from Holly Henderson of Portland. She and her

934
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: husband bought their first house four years ago just outside

935
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: of Portland, and the very first night there, on Christmas Eve,

936
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: they spent the night in a mattress on the floor

937
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: next to the Christmas tree. And she says, now we

938
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: do that every year. We bring that mattress back in

939
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: the living room on Christmas Eve and sleep on the

940
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: mattress by the tree.

941
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: It's very sweet, lovely. And then the last one, Chuck,

942
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: how about Chelsea Alan Lindsay's.

943
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Christmas route Bega, Yeah, I love weird families.

944
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: So her family puts a Christmas Rutebiga out in the

945
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: living room along with the tree every year. And the

946
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: whole thing started from a car trip when they were

947
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: living in the UK, and she says that her grandma,

948
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: parents and her aunt had come to visit one Christmas time.

949
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: They were all in the car and everything was just

950
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: going nuts and crazy, and apparently Chelsea's mom started calling

951
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: the whole thing rude. Bega's on parade. Yeah, and I

952
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: love her mom. She bought a rudabaga and put it

953
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: on the dashboard of the car for the rest of

954
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: the trip, and then when she got home she made

955
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: a face for it out of clothes, put clothes, put

956
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: a wreath on it, and then it became a Christmas

957
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: root to Bega, Yeah, this is not just weird dad's weird.

958
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: Moms are great too.

959
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: Sure you know. I got one more, Okay, because I

960
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: forgot Michelle Greenwald. I want to be in her family

961
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: because they have a holiday they invented called Pajamaica's. Oh yeah,

962
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: and I think I see you. I'll see where this

963
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: is going. It's the day before Christmas Eve even and

964
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: she said it was necessary since we were traveling for

965
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: Christmas Day and didn't have a day that was dedicated

966
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: just to the four of us in our family. So

967
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: Pajamaicus goes down like this. It's immediate family. They get

968
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: each other pajamas and change into the pajamas all together.

969
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: Well they're all wearing the pajamas in other words. And

970
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: then they watch Christmas movies and eat breakfast for dinner,

971
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 3: which is one of my favorite things.

972
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: And it's like a no holds barred breakfast for dinner.

973
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, she says. They cook all day and have

974
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 3: a huge breakfast spread like Latcus waffles, poached eggs, briosh,

975
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: you name it.

976
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you want you get to have. Yeah for dinner.

977
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: I don't know where the green walls are, but I

978
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: want to come over for pajamakas. Yeah, it sounds pretty

979
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 3: great to just invite me and I'll be there. Get

980
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: me pajamas with feet good. I got nothing else?

981
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: So oh okay, well I guess this is the outro

982
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: then huh yeah, wow, this is great, Chuck. I mean,

983
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: it's it's officially now Christmas time.

984
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 3: For us, that's right, and other wonderful year of stuff

985
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: you should know. Twenty sixteen. We're going to close the

986
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: books on this one and thank everyone, as we do

987
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: every year, for your support, because without you, there would

988
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: be no us. We really really don't take that for granted,

989
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: and actually a very special birthday shout out. I know

990
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: people that are born around Christmas always get jipped off

991
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: in the birthday department, but one of our most delightful

992
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: and oldest, most supportive fans, Miss Gail Coots. It's her

993
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: birthday on Christmas Eve, and her husband Mark was kind

994
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: enough to email me because he knows what a big

995
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: fan she is and Gail is wonderful. So happy birthday,

996
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: Gail from Ohio. You're the best. I hope we can

997
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: all meet up someday and sounds.

998
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: Good right yep. So happy holidays to everybody. Merry Christmas,

999
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: Happy Honikah, Happy Kwanza, tip top tet all that jazz.

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