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I'm Tanya 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: sam Post of The Money Moves Podcast powered by Greenwood. 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: This daily podcast will help give you the keys to 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of financial stability, wealth and abundance with celebrity 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: guests like Rick Ross, Amanda Sill's, angela Ye, Roland, Martin, JB. Smooth, 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: and Terrell Owens. Tune in to learn how to turn 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: liabilities into assets and make your money moves. Subscribe to 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: The Money Moves Podcast powered by Greenland on the I 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts, and 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: make sure you leave a review. My next guest is 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Judge Runda Wills. Since forming a law firm nearly two 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: decades ago, Judge Wills has recovered over one hundred million 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: dollars fighting for the rights of everyday Americans and they 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: applied against corporate giants. She uses her expertise and intellect 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: to give vorce to those who need her most. The 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: worker who has been wronged by their employer, a person 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: who has been discriminated against, sexual ass and sexual assaulted, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and those who have suffered catastrophic physical injuries. She is 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: now making a mark on TV. Come on that Starve. 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Our new court show, Relative Justice with Judge Runda Wills 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: is a new arbitration based reality court show which centers 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: on solving inter family legal just we gotta find out 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: what that's all about. Really digested with Judge Runda Wills 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: for meals in September and it's been cleared in eighty 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: percent of the country. That's a lot for a new show. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm here that's pretty impressive. And when once once everybody 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: discovered sheets, Yeah, she's gonna be okay. Please check out 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: your local listening because you should watch this show. Judge 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: will Runder Wills is on the show to talk about 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: her career and building her dream please work into money 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: making conversations for the very first time, but not the 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: last time, Judge Runda Wills, how you doing there very soon? 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: How are you? It's great to be with you. Thank you. 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I hope I got enough information about you out there, 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, because you you perked up a little bit 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: when I was talking about you. So I'm assuming a 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't tell your story when they're doing 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: these interviews. Well, you know, a lot of people do, 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: but there are always a lot of other things I 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: want people to know about me. But I think you 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: cover most of this good because you know, when when 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: we look at let's let's be out, when you look 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: at a person, you're attractive, and some people tend to 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: just feel that way and they forget the fact that 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: there's a journey for anybody no matter how they look. 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: So tell us how I know your Texas girl, because 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Texas boy, okay, and I know you live 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: in Houston. I'm from Houston, so we're already hitting it 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: off of you over there by the Tyler Rose Country 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: in East Texas. That's where he was born and raised. 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Cabral Country. She's an e cabl Country, but she's raising 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: herself and a family and and delivering the level of 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: success in Houston, Texas. Let's talk about how you got 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: started in the law business and what attracted you to that. 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Because it might show money making conversations. I try to 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: give people that you can do it too, and a 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of people stop and feel they have to be 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: born in a certain family of living in a certain 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: part of the country. But you come from a small, 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: very focus, small smith You're born and raised, but that 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't stop you from going to a big school like 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the University of Texas. Talk about your journey in early years. 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Judge Wills, So, first of all, I wish thank you 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: so much for having me on your podcast. This is amazing. 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I've been watching your podcast. You're doing great things, and 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: so I'm excited to be here. Uh. My story is 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: one of very humble beginnings from this little bitty town 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: called Winona. Uh. It's in East Texas, right outside of Tyler. 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm one of five children. I was raised by a 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: single mother and my grandmother. Uh, and was was just 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: raised in a you know, a really really frankly poor family, 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: and I always knew that there was a lot of 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: injustice in the world, and I always wanted to be 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: someone who could right those wrongs and help people. And 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: I was just very fortunate that I went to the 87 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: University of Texas undergrad on a full scholarship. I got 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: an international business degree, and then I went on to 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: the University of Texas and got a law degree, again 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 1: on a full scholarship, and started my law practice. And 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I started out working for a really, really really big 92 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: law firm, and that wasn't what I wanted to do. 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: My passion was with helping people, um and that's what 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, was to help people. Uh So 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I started my own law firm and I have focused 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: my law practice for the last two decades on helping people, 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: just everyday Americans, to fight corporate giants, because in many 98 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: of the cases that I take, if I didn't speak 99 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: for them, if I was not their voice, they wouldn't 100 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: have a voice. And when really bad things happened to people, 101 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: be being sexually assaulted or sexually harassed in the workplace, 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: being discriminated against on the basis of your race, your gender, 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: your sexual orientation, um, any of those things. Surviving a 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: catastrophic personal injury without someone to come in and help 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: you to get economic justice, a lot of people would 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: have no justice and would have no way to start 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: and try and rebuild their life after going through something 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: extremely tragic. So I always knew that I wanted to 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: be a person who would go out there and fight 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: for the voiceless and fight for people that really, really 111 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: really wouldn't have a voice unless I stood up. Now, 112 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: Judge here, I'm asking a simple question. May not be, 113 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: but to me, what makes a good lawyer? I think 114 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: that what makes a good lawyer as someone first of all, 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: who studies the law, who knows the law, and somebody 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: who's willing to go out and fight and be fearless 117 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: in the face of whoever they're up against. I'm fortunate 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: in that I'm licensed in Texas, California, and New York, 119 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: which just means I took a lot of our exams, 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: a lot of studying. But I've practiced all over this country. 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I represent people all over the country. UM. And one 122 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: thing that I found is oftentimes I can walk in 123 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: to a courtroom and there's nobody there that looks like me. 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter to me. Doesn't matter if I'm 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: the only woman in the courtroom. It doesn't matter if 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm the only black person in the courtroom. Doesn't matter 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: if I'm the only black woman in the courtroom, because 128 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm going to bring it. 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: As my grandmother always told me, you will come up 130 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: against people who have more money than you do, who 131 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: maybe went to better schools and you went to. 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I'm so happy 174 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: to be on the show. There's not a lot of 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: great things about it. Cool now that speech right there, 176 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: you got closer to the camera. You know, your forehead 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: browned a little bit, you know, because that's what attracted people. 178 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure when you did spots on television, you know, 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: use information with passion, and that's what's mission on television 180 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: right now. But boy, it's more importantly I would just 181 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: tell you, she said, No matter what's cool that, I'm 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: gonna tell you about University of Texas. That's one of 183 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: the top schools in the country. Okay, so let's go 184 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: shed just go to a regular school. It's like a 185 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: city they own Austin, Texas. So I was just put 186 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: that in perspective. She went to a great school, she 187 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: got a scholarship at an amazing school. Even though I 188 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: graduate University Houston, I still can be respectful for ut 189 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: and what they delivered down in Austin, Texas. Now, when 190 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you as an individual who started trying to make a difference, 191 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: we see so many commercials on TV. How this person? 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's you know, legal law firms 193 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: have gotten so powerful from a commercial standpoint. They actually 194 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: they actually well were sponsored news shows, the local news. 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: That's why I asked that question, what makes a good lawyer? 196 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: Because nowadays everyday people are just hit with so much 197 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: information on the radio, in print, on TV, and social media. 198 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: How do they how do they cut through that to 199 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: make the right decision to work with a lawyer that's 200 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: going to benefit them. I guess that's the question I 201 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: should have asked you initially because of the fact that 202 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: advertisement for law firms and lawyers are so dominant in 203 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: the media today. Well, first and foremost, if they need 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: a good lawyer called my law firm, Will's law firm PLLC, 205 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: so call me first. There are a lot of great 206 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: law firms out there. I think the most important thing 207 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: that people need to do is to educate themselves and 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're hiring someone as a lawyer 209 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: who's going to represent you and be passionate about representing you. 210 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I never ever stopped fighting for my clients, no matter 211 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: what um. I have gone up against some of the 212 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: biggest corporate giants. I'm One of my biggest cases was 213 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: I got a twenty million dollar settlement against Wells Fargo 214 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: in a class action case. I've represent a lot of people. 215 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of class action cases where, for example, 216 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: a group of African Americans that were being paid less 217 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: than their white counterparts. M I have, you know, represented 218 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: people that weren't paid all their wages. So for a 219 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: lot of people, they just don't get it. You know, 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: they think, Okay, well, you only got paid for forty 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: hours instead of fifty hours you work fifty hours. Well, 222 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I was raised by a single mother. Sometimes my mother 223 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: had to work two and three jobs in order to 224 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: take care of us. So I know what it means 225 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: when somebody doesn't get paid when they work fifty hours 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to forty hours, and those ten hours that 227 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: they didn't get paid for that can mean the difference 228 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: between food on the table or food not being on 229 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: the table. So, because of my humble background, I know 230 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: what it means for everyday people to struggle to fight. 231 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: And when I see these big corporations that put profits 232 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: over people, that makes me angry and that makes me fight. 233 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I've had to fight cases all the way to the U. S. 234 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I'm licensed before the U. S. Supreme Court, 235 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: So I will fight no matter how long, how hard 236 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: it requires, I will fight. In that case that had 237 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: before the U. S. Supreme Court, I want a five 238 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: point two million dollar judgment for my client who had 239 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: his throat slashed at work by a co worker. I 240 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: want a five point two million dollar verdict against that company. 241 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: And they fought me all the way to the U. S. 242 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and I fought them in one. Wow. Now, 243 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: you know you you didn't get into this business to 244 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: be on TV. Everybody you know you got into the 245 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: business because of you know, you're smart enough to get 246 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: scholarships both undergraduate and graduate and then you launch. You you 247 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: you went to a big firm and then because guess what, 248 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: your academics allowed you to be recruited and you said yes, 249 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: and then you said, you know something that's not me, 250 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: which is always a fear that people have. So there's 251 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: so many people out there listening to the show. They're 252 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: going through life, stuck in relationships, stuck at jobs that 253 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be because they fear, fearful of making that 254 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: first step. How are you conscious from a common standpoint 255 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: or did you turn to other people when you deciety 256 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: to say you know that, I know this check is 257 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: nice and it's regularly got help benefits, but it's not me. 258 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: What what pushed you to that next level to say 259 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ride and die with Randa Wills, Well, 260 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: there was one case I had in particular, I had 261 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: a trial and the person on the I represented a 262 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: big corporation and the person on the other side of 263 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: that case was a black man. And this black man 264 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: um was denied a contract, a multimillion dollar contract, and 265 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: I had to go in court and fight against this 266 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: black man who had beat his own business, had worked hard, 267 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and my job was to go in and break this 268 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: man down and destroy him. And we tried the case 269 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: and ultimately we beat him, and my mother came and 270 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: she watched me in that trial. And at the end 271 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: of that trial, my mother looked at me and she said, baby, 272 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: you did a great job, and that poor little man 273 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: over there, you're gonna beat him. But she said, are 274 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: you really on the right side of this? Just because 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: in do something doesn't mean you should be doing that. 276 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think you need to look at yourself in 277 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: the mirror and ask yourself, is this really what I 278 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: went to law school for. And so when my mother 279 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: broke that down to me like that, I realized, no, 280 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: this is not what I went to law school for. 281 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: I went to law school to represent people like the 282 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: man that I just broke down and beat in court. 283 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: And that was my wake up call. We know that 284 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a minute on that, because that was 285 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: pretty powerful because sometimes in life money doesn't mean any 286 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I always tell people I'm not in the game for 287 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the money. I'm in the game for the opportunity, if 288 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to present yourself that's something that I feel 289 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: personally benefit me and the people around me. Did not 290 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: move forward on that, and that's the case. I think 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: what's happening there. The money brought you the opportunity, but 292 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: the opportunities wasn't what you wanted to pursue long term. 293 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: And so when you when That's why parents are great 294 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: because they can look over the other side and go, child, 295 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, why are you doing that? Okay? You 296 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: just you puss a plate on their food, on they 297 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: plate something else, you know, some other ways. You know, 298 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I know that's right. So you know what, Rishan. The 299 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: most amazing thing about it is, so I was working 300 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: at that big firm and the check is good. I'm 301 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Check is really good. 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Okay? 348 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: We know the queen out there, Judge Judy, she'd been 349 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: the queen. Judge Hut is on TV each uptime four 350 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: hours a day some sitty. Now you come in there 351 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people have come in. I 352 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: know my boy, you know, uh, Judge, Judge, Judge, Judge 353 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Joe Brown. How was my boy? Uh? You know there 354 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: doing if Judge math is my boy? Judge may Leblien, 355 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: that's my girl and now my girl. I'm calling my 356 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: girl to Judge Ronda Wills coming out there. Yes, why 357 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: did you because you say you have a great family 358 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and great mom. Why are you in the why are 359 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: you getting the TV business like this with this show, 360 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: which is a wonderful show, by the way, Thank you. 361 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: So first of all, before I did Relative Justice, I 362 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: had another show on WE TV called Sisters in Law 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: and it was a reality based TV show based in 364 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Houston that followed my legal career, and so that kind 365 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: of got me into thinking about TV is something that 366 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I might want to do. Before that, I never even 367 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: thought about it. When this opportunity came along, it seemed 368 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: perfect for me because I'm from a huge family. I 369 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: have four kids of my own. I'm one of five kids. 370 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: My grandmother had ten kids and I got more than 371 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: fifty first cousins. So I'm a huge family. So what 372 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: makes this show, my show Relative Justice with Judge Ronda Wills. 373 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: What makes it different from the other court TV shows 374 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: is that we folk us only on disputes between family members. 375 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: So everyone that comes on my show, every litigant that 376 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you see, they're related by blood or marriage for children. Right. 377 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: So that's what made this fascinating for me because it's 378 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: different from every other core TV show. Right when you know, 379 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: you tobody out, you know, uh and family girl that 380 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: can be ugly. Now, Yeah, I was just thinking because 381 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, because you set up there make me funny 382 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: about Rodney. You know what you're talking about a big family. 383 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: I come from six sister, two brothers, So I'm about 384 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: to kill that little big family theory that you pitched 385 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: out there. You know I was I was number five. 386 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: You just only had five, Okay, you running right, So 387 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: we're just gonna kill that little big family when you're 388 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: talking to me. And my aunt had sixteen kids, so 389 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: we don't kill out the story. Okay. So so but 390 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: that's my fun part of just talking to you. But 391 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: when you get into these what made you pay? First 392 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: of all, you take in the l a where's it 393 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: take that the show's the show has taken in Lexington, Kentucky, 394 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: which for me was great because I'm a small town 395 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: girl and I'm a Southern girl, so it was like 396 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: going home for me to be filming in Lexington. Oh, 397 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: it's beautiful because they do have their white picket fish 398 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: when you go around and drive those Kentucky Hart Ranges. 399 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Just beautiful Kentucky. So I've been up there. Now now 400 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: when you're putting this show together, like so you have 401 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: to stand on reality TV. And I always tell people 402 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: when I interview people who do reality t V, why 403 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: you know, why would you do reality TV? And then 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: you told us an opportunity to come and do your 405 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: own show, Relative Justice with Judge Randa Wills, and you're 406 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: taking it in Kentucky. But you live in Houston, and 407 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: then you have you still have a successful law firm. 408 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Why I have to ask the question why? And that's 409 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: that's a positive. Why it's not a negative? Why when 410 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: I say that, because some people will tell you it 411 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: isn't enough enough. Don't you have? You got it going on? 412 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: You look good, you got money, you got kids, you 413 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: got you When you're gonna stop da, what's what's your problem? Girl? Well? 414 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I will tell you that I feel like a full 415 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: It is a blessing, and every blessing that God brings 416 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: to me, I embrace it with open arms and I 417 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: run with it. So when this opportunity was brought to 418 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: me to do this show again, this was a unique concept. 419 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: There's no other Core TV show out there like this 420 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: one because we only focus on families. Now. When they 421 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: come into my courtroom, it's a money dispute, and I 422 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: resolved the money dispute. But above and beyond that money dispute, 423 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: because these are families that you're dealing with, I try 424 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: to bring the families back together again. There are some 425 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: cases in my courtroom where sisters get into a dispute 426 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: about money and they haven't spoken for years, and they 427 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: come into my courtroom. I have to resolve this money 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: issue and then try to get them back to being 429 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: sisters again. I had one case where a mother had 430 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: a mother was there against her son and daughter in law. 431 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: She had taken out our restraining order against her daughter 432 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: in law, so they had fine waivers just to be 433 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: in the courtroom because she had a restraining order against 434 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: her daughter in law. That's how broken down this family was. 435 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: At the end of this episode. At the end of 436 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: my resolution of this case, the mother, the daughter in law, 437 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: and the son are all crying and hugging and are 438 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: have committed to building their relationship again and being a 439 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: family again. So it's things like that that made me 440 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: feel like I'm really really making a difference. I got 441 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: into the practice of law to make a difference, and 442 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing this TV show to make a difference. And 443 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the other thing with Seawan that you're gonna see about 444 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: my show Relative Justice, that's different from other shows. So 445 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: oftentimes a lot of these family dramas, a lot of 446 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: it um it's not just something that people can work 447 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: through on their own. And I refer people for counseling 448 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: and therapy where appropriate, either family counseling, individual counting. Sometimes 449 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: it's drug counseling, sometimes it's trauma therapy. But I we 450 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: also had a therapist on staff who is there and 451 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I would refer some of the families to sit down 452 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: and meet with the therapist because there's so much stigma 453 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: attached to getting therapy and getting counseling, and oftentimes, especially 454 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: with families, there's a money dis you here, But that's 455 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: just the surface, and when you scratch underneath the surface, 456 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: there's something much deeper and much more dramatic going on, 457 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: and sometimes you need the help of a therapist, a 458 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: family therapist in particular, to help you as a family 459 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: work through it. Well, you know, I'm talking. I'm talking 460 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: to Judge Randa. Since it has a new show. Uh, 461 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: there's gonna be eight of the country again. Congratulations. That's 462 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: a high number for a news show. A lot of 463 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: people understand in syndication, which which is a very competitive market, 464 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: and you know you're presiding over the show through they 465 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: say you're show compassion and tough love, resolved litans, legal disputes, 466 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: but to work towards, like you said, bringing families back 467 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: together in the process. We all know that that that 468 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: that's the end goal. But happened. I know you're early 469 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: in your judge career in this TV format. Has anything 470 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: shocked you yet You're going, I can't believe they just 471 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: couldn't understand like you just talked about like you just 472 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: talked about the restraining order and for the daughter in law, 473 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: and it's just so many things that are going on 474 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: out there's anything really went Wow, that's crazy, So Rashan 475 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: like every day that's crazy. It's something. But I can 476 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: tell you the amazing thing about relative justice. People who 477 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: want to tune in every day, because every day is different. 478 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Some days where with some cases, I'm laughing so hard 479 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: that i can barely get my ruling out because I'm falling. 480 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm about to fall from And there are other cases 481 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: where it's just so sad, I'm crying. I'm almost crying. 482 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Everybody in the audience is crying. To live against a crying. 483 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: And then there are other cases where people do something 484 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: that's so wrong, so toxic, getting so terrible that I 485 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: have to tell them. I have to tell them you're 486 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: wrong and you need to change and you need to 487 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: do better, and I have to actually go in on them. 488 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: So every single day is different. We have experts that 489 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: come in, we have demonstrations. Okay, so once there you go. 490 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: We have we have a pull dancer. One of the 491 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: litigants is a dancer, and you don't want to miss 492 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: the episode with the dancer, Like my mouth was, ball 493 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: dancers out there, you don't want to miss that. Well, 494 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna just tell you, you know, just watching your energy, 495 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: you're amazing. I'm gonna compliment you on that and I'm 496 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: just happy, just trying to just be you know, rond 497 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: the Wills in this interview, because sometimes we can get 498 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: stiff and just trying to deliver information. And hopefully my 499 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: story and my interview and this and the way I 500 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: was just walking you through the process gave you a 501 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: confidence zone. You are funny, you are, you are smart, 502 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: you are. I'm going to watch the show and I 503 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: want to bring you back on in the spring when 504 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: we talk about you and of the country. But again, 505 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: I just want to say congratulations on this show. And 506 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm tell your team and I got almost a million 507 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: followers on social media, so tell your team to send 508 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: me some banners so I can post it on on 509 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: social media. Your Texas girl, I'm a Texas boy. I 510 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: gotta support you no matter what. Girl. Okay, thank you, 511 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and good luck for your show. Alright, 512 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate good luck And if you want to 513 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: see you here any of my interviews on Money Making Conversations, 514 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: please go to money Making Conversation dot com. 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