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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola and Bill Jones, Oh, do we ever have

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Speaker 1: a great Wednesday night for you here at the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Club at Fort Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones along with our legend Mickey Spacoy at the house. Yeah. Hello,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that Bill very much. But let's not exaggerate. Ok,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, Well we may have another legend

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Speaker 1: that mean, Mickey, Well, it means one and only one thing.

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Speaker 1: That it must be Walt Garrison in the house. All right,

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Speaker 1: We've got Walt Garrison, our Cowboys Legends guest. Hello, Walt

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Speaker 1: how you doing up to now? So far? Good? Well,

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Speaker 1: good to have you. We haven't seen you in a while.

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Speaker 1: Well you hadn't come out to Frisco. Yeah, where I live.

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Speaker 1: And the shame of it is, we only live about

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Speaker 1: his place and I've been out to his place too.

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Speaker 1: It's like a museum, isn't it. Yeah, I love that place.

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Speaker 1: Log cabin out in Argyle. That this means you old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sign for a minute. Rookie season been a few moons ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it has nineteen sixty six, right, that's a long time ago. Goodness, gracious, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's over fifty years ago. Did you know that? No,

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Speaker 1: Walt Garrison here, We've got Danny Serek over there with

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Speaker 1: over the course of the next hour, Danny will look

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Speaker 1: you up and we'll put your question on the air.

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Speaker 1: We'll put you on the air and you can ask

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Speaker 1: a question. And Walt, Walt, you paid attention to this

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Speaker 1: current Cowboys team? Yes and no. Yeah, when they win,

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Speaker 1: you're paying attention. We got it. You weren't paying attention Sunday. No,

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Speaker 1: they're done all right, they've done good. It's just you know,

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Speaker 1: they got some great players. So when we were driving here,

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Speaker 1: And so, why don't you tell us a story about

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Speaker 1: You wanted to hitch. Uh yeah, I want to hitch

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Speaker 1: on the Pontiac they gave me. And the hitch cost

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Speaker 1: to show it to Text. Uh yeah, oh yeah, Text.

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Speaker 1: I drove my Pontiac to training, I mean to the

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Speaker 1: training room, and Text was there and he come out.

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Speaker 1: He said, you come in at pontiacc. I said, that's

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Speaker 1: a playing I got to drive, you know. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: came in. He said, can I go look at it?

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Speaker 1: I said yeah, And he got out on his knees

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Speaker 1: and then on his back and slid under the back

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Speaker 1: of the pontiac to look. And I said, what the

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Speaker 1: hell are you looking for? He said, I want to

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Speaker 1: see a damn hitch it towards fifteen hundred dollars Walk Garrison,

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Speaker 1: our guest here on the Cowboys Legend Show. And we

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Speaker 1: continue in a moment from the Star in Frisco. Makers Mark.

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Speaker 1: to the SWBC Mortgage tell Us Cowboys Legends Show broadcasting

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Speaker 1: Life from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Fans United, where you can find game day gear for

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Speaker 1: here at the Star are in Frisco. Mickey Spagnola. There

444
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: is so much to do out here at the Start.

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00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: There sure is bill, you can shop, you can eat,

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00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: there's high school, football on Thursday and Friday nights here absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and you can see it from the Cowboys Club if

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Speaker 1: you're a member up here too. By the way, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly right. I got a nice crowd here. We're here

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Speaker 1: each and every Wednesday night, and our guests this week

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Speaker 1: is Walt Garrison Mickey. Before we go on, give us

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Speaker 1: a little update on what's going on with this Cowboys

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Speaker 1: team as far as injuries are concerned. Well, Shanlee is

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00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: out for a little while. I got my injury lists

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00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: somewhere here, Bill, Yeah, Shawn Lee out probably a week

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Speaker 1: or two with a strained hamstring, so he didn't practice.

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00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: Maliek Collins still nursing a sprained MCL his knee, he

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Speaker 1: did not practice, and obviously Travis Frederick's still not back yet.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, most of the other people are.

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00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're limited, but they're able to do something.

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00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: So by time I think they get to Sunday's game,

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00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be able to be able to play. Now Detroit,

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Speaker 1: one of their main pass rusher, Ziggy Onza, has been

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Speaker 1: hurting with a shoulder and it showed today that he

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Speaker 1: didn't practice either. And by the way, the Lions come

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Speaker 1: in here on Sunday at noon with the number one

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00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: ranked pass defense in the National Football League. They do. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they also are the what was it they were last

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Speaker 1: in rushing offense. Maybe it was it was a weird Well,

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Speaker 1: now there were last against the run, but there first

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Speaker 1: against the past. All right, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they finally had one hundred yard rusher their last

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Speaker 1: game against New England. They beat New England on Sunday

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Speaker 1: night and carry On Johnson, a rookie out of Auburn,

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Speaker 1: first time since twenty thirteen they had a one hundred

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Speaker 1: yard rusher in a game. Danny with the wireless microphone,

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Speaker 1: Hello Danny, Hi, guys. The question now, Walt, is actually

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Speaker 1: come from me. Oh you better be ready. Here comes

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00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: the here comes the fastball. I know you competed in

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Speaker 1: some rodeos, and I'm just curious which is more strenuous

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Speaker 1: on your body, competing in a rodeo or playing an

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Speaker 1: NFL game getting tackled. Well, I was a steer rasher

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Speaker 1: and the stairs don't knock you down like them defense

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Speaker 1: your vinds and tackles do in football, but uh no

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Speaker 1: I never did. Uh I only got hurt one time

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Speaker 1: rodeo on and that was it? But what do you

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Speaker 1: mean that was it? That was the last injury you had,

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Speaker 1: or that it was the only injury I had. You

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Speaker 1: hurt your knee, right, yep. But you're jumping off the

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Speaker 1: horse and grabbing this this animal it was called a steer,

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Speaker 1: a steer, but it is an animal, you're right, and

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Speaker 1: you and you grabbed onto the horns or what's the deal?

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Speaker 1: Then throw them down? How do you learn? Like, how

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Speaker 1: do you practice? How do you learn that? Well, you practiced,

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Speaker 1: but took So when was the first time that you

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Speaker 1: wrestled a steer? When I was in a high school? Okay,

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Speaker 1: when I was a junior or senior in high school,

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Speaker 1: because they had the t Y Texas Youth Rodeal Association

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Speaker 1: and they had a lot of rodeos and they had

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Speaker 1: the finals in Hallisville, Texas and I got to go

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Speaker 1: there twice. So what made you think I should jump

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Speaker 1: off a horse while it's running and jump on Because

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Speaker 1: they pay you money if you do it quick enough.

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Speaker 1: That's why. So when you graduated from Louisville High School

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Speaker 1: and then you you said that you would you entertained

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Speaker 1: offers to go be a college wrestler if you had

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Speaker 1: it your way, if all things being equal, would you

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Speaker 1: have rather been a wrestler or no rodeo? I'm not wrestling,

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Speaker 1: I mean sorry, Well I was a steer wrestler. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be a rodeo cowboy or a Dallas cowboy? Well,

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Speaker 1: the way it worked out, those cowboys paid me more

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Speaker 1: than I ever made rodeo and so, but if rodeo

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Speaker 1: would have paid as much as the Dallas Cowboys exactly,

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Speaker 1: what was your first love? Oh? I loved the rodeo.

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Speaker 1: I still do, I still roll. Did you do all

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Speaker 1: the events or just one? Well? When I was in

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Speaker 1: high school, I rode bulls and bay back horses and

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Speaker 1: bulldog and then I got too big to ride back

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Speaker 1: back horses because you look at all the world championship

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Speaker 1: stuff like may Hand or those guys. They don't weigh

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty pounds, you know,

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Speaker 1: because this up here pulls you off into your hands. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So did you do it in college at Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 1: like during the season or off season summers and off season? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I did it with the Cowboys. Uh, when I

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Speaker 1: was a rookie because I wasn't playing, because I mean

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Speaker 1: I was on the Kama Coze squads, you know, specialty

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Speaker 1: covering bunch and kickoffs and stuff, right because Don park

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Speaker 1: Kins was the hell of a guy in a hell

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Speaker 1: of a fullback. But so I would go to Mesquite

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Speaker 1: on sertain that we had a meeting to start with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but I could leave as soon as the

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Speaker 1: meeting was over and get there and the buddy Mane

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00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: would carry the Hazing horse and the bulldog and horse

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Speaker 1: over so the night before the game. Yeah, And that

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Speaker 1: worked for four or five weeks, and then somebody called

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Speaker 1: coach Landry and they said, man, we want to say thanks,

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Speaker 1: and he said, well, you're welcome up for He said,

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Speaker 1: well y'all at walk I'm over here in Bulldog at

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Speaker 1: Mosquite and now before football games. And that was the

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Speaker 1: last time I did that. How did that go down?

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Speaker 1: Did he call you? He called me into the little office,

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Speaker 1: which was pretty small, and he said, he said, well,

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Speaker 1: did you go through the old certain night? I said,

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Speaker 1: I knew, he knew. I said that's old line to

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Speaker 1: coach Landry wasn't good? And I said yes, sir. He said, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get hurt doing that. I said, you

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00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: can get hurt playing football too. Time. I said, ignorance

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Speaker 1: is what makes any sport dangerous. And I said, I've

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Speaker 1: been bulldogan since high school and I don't take chances,

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Speaker 1: you know. He said, well, we won't do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: During the season, we won't do it. I said, no, sir,

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Speaker 1: we won't, and so I didn't. So did you give

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Speaker 1: it up for a while? Then, well the I did

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00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: an off season, yeah, and that was okay with him.

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Speaker 1: Well he came to the rodeo one night, did he really? Yeah? Mosquite?

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Speaker 1: And uh, so I was out there on Sadling. I

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Speaker 1: won like second or third in the bulldogan and I

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00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: was out there on side of my horse and somebody

560
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Speaker 1: tapped me on the shoulder and I turned around. I went,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, that's not as dangerous as I

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Speaker 1: thought it was. Really, Yeah, he said, but we won't

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Speaker 1: do that during the season. What was Uh? And you

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Speaker 1: got pretty good at it too, right, didn't you do

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Speaker 1: some national rodeos? But I never did win world but

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Speaker 1: uh world nationals? Yeah, I got to go to the

567
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: national finals a couple of times, so in in bulldogging.

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Speaker 1: And then when did you start roping. Uh, when they

569
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Speaker 1: wouldn't let me bulldog anymore. A little safer. But even

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Speaker 1: the roping you had to well, you don't have to

571
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Speaker 1: get off your horse. Show roping, okay, and heading and

572
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: healing that calf roping, you gotta get off the tie

573
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Speaker 1: calf bright, heading and heating on and stair open. You know.

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Speaker 1: One guy ropes of heads, other ropes of heels and uh,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't have to get off your horse. I

576
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Speaker 1: got you and he and he has a kind of

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Speaker 1: a rodeo ring. What do you call it? Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a roping arena. There to have arena at his house. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where you can still practice. Yeah, yeah, I still like

580
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Speaker 1: the rade horses. Yeah, tell me about the whitland. When

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Speaker 1: did you get started whittling? U? When I was in

582
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Speaker 1: high school, I used to go to a we used

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Speaker 1: to go Buddy Might live in Irving, Texas, and he

584
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Speaker 1: used to taking me to a barbecue play sir. And

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00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: this guy had whoodlands. He had whoodlands in the Smithsonian Institute.

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Speaker 1: Is how good he was? Really? And I said, well,

587
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty close to that. Would you teach me how

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Speaker 1: to whiddle? And he said, I ain't got time bore.

589
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: And then I kept going in there and sitting over.

590
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: He had a bench that you could go in there

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Speaker 1: and whiddle if you wanted to make shavings, because I

592
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: couldn't make anything. And finally he said, Okay, I'm gonna

593
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: show you something. And he showed me about the grain

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Speaker 1: and wood and everything else, you know, and and uh

595
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: so he taught me a lot of stuff, how to

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Speaker 1: how to whittle stuff. Well you've seen a bunch of yeah,

597
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: well you want to see. Well he's got a big

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00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: room in his house and it's all whittling and shavings

599
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: and and he makes knives blades. So is that barbecue

600
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: play still in Irving or is it barbs barbecue? Now?

601
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Harvey passed away, God bless him. And I put a

602
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: naf in his come in his uh casket. Yeah, so

603
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Wilt is Walt's given me. Wilt Walt's given me some

604
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: of his woodlings, and uh my favorite one. It's a

605
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: little wooden platform and it's got like three little stools,

606
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: like stools that you would milk a cow on, you know,

607
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: the little deals. And on the sign it says, so

608
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: there's three of them and they're a little bit different,

609
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: and it says stool sample his his humor, not mine.

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00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: His it is. And then he's he's got this little

611
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: deal that he just gave me. It's uh two us

612
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: and show him how it works. It's just we called

613
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: a cowboy. Yo yo, go to chuff cans. Uh huh.

614
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: But he's got them all over the house. Uh, it's

615
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: just amazing. But his room is amazing. They're nice. The

616
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: stuff that he's got in his house. This isn't nice, No,

617
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: but they're they're I mean, this stuff is. I can't

618
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: believe he has the patience to do that from a

619
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: piece of wood. Well. I used to whittle in training camp,

620
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, because we work out in the mornings and

621
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: you had like two or three hours and everybody went

622
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: to sleep. May I couldn't sleep in the day. Hell

623
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I slept at night and day. And so I went

624
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: to this barbecue place and Irving and Walter Harvey he's

625
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: got got woodlands in the smithsoning the Institute. Yeah, And

626
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: he was good. And I said, brother Harbor, I said,

627
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: could you teach me how to whittle? He ain't got time, bore,

628
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: but some way you learned. I would go in there

629
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Speaker 1: and whittle and finally he came over. He said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna teach you a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Well he taught you well because he's got stuff and

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Speaker 1: he and he's got him stacked up on the shelves,

633
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Speaker 1: and I might like, what do you do with all

634
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: this stuff? And you give him away? And people actually

635
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Speaker 1: buy him for charity events. Yeah, I delated a lot

636
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Speaker 1: of stuff to charities, you know, and and uh and

637
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: people do buy them. And uh, I mean one guy

638
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Speaker 1: gave him like six hundred or something dollars for one

639
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Speaker 1: of my whittlings and no one over to him. I said,

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Speaker 1: you want another one? Then it. Walk's got a beautiful

641
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: log home there in Argyle. Uh. It was an honor

642
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Speaker 1: to be able to head out there and and interview

643
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Speaker 1: you about the Ice Bowl once upon a time. And

644
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: it was cold. It was it was cold at the

645
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Speaker 1: Ice Bowl. We'll get into that. It's more memories down

646
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Speaker 1: memory lane with Walk Garrison here on the Cowboys Legend Show.

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Speaker 1: A just a ball, but it's a touchdown. It's a

648
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Speaker 1: touchdown to the SWBC Mortgage dell Us Cowboys Legends Show

649
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: broadcasting Life from the Cowboys Club at the Star in

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Frisco Final ten minutes or of the Cowboys Legend Show

651
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Speaker 1: from here at the Star in Frisco or inside the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Club. We're here each and every Wednesday night during

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Speaker 1: the football season from seven to eight o'clock Bill Jones

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: with Mickey Spagnola and our legends. Guest this week, the

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Speaker 1: Great Walk Garrison And guess what what do you always

656
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: ask me? And I never have the answer for you.

657
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: The guest next week, that's right, you know you have it.

658
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: I do have it. It's gonna be Randy White. Oh,

659
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Speaker 1: the Manster will be in the house next Wednesday night.

660
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Speaker 1: And how about the next I got two weeks out

661
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Speaker 1: absolutely Hall of Fame nominee gil Brand. All right, jil Brand,

662
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Speaker 1: you got Randy White. Jil Brand, Walt's Walt's favorite guy. Yeah,

663
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Speaker 1: Randy White is a good guess. And with that we'll

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Speaker 1: go to Dandy the audience. Guys. Our next question is

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Speaker 1: going to come from Lisa from Dallas. Hi, Walt, I

666
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Speaker 1: just want to thank you for your service with the Cowboys.

667
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Speaker 1: Born and raised in Dallas. All right, and my question

668
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Speaker 1: for you is what advice would you give Elliott in

669
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Speaker 1: today's game? Ezekiel Elliott, what advice would you give a

670
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: player he's learned to play basketball. It's a rough and

671
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: tough game. It's football, it is, but a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't get to play my first three

673
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Speaker 1: years in the league. You know, Uh, I got to

674
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: play on third down situation because Don Perkins, who is

675
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: a starting fullback, couldn't catch a cold in a blizzard.

676
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: But it takes a walk to get adjusted pro football

677
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: because it's nothing like collegues football like I thought it was. Yeah,

678
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: And you know, and he's he's pretty well adjusted seeing

679
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: as a rookie came in and won a rushing title

680
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: and right now three games into the season, he's tied

681
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: for the league, is right? You know what? One of

682
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: my favorite things having Walk Garrison on these Legends show

683
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: is because is the you can find it on YouTube,

684
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Speaker 1: but he says he can do it for us tonight.

685
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: It's the poem that he wrote and it will do

686
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Speaker 1: on command a lot. And that is people are funny critters.

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Speaker 1: They really are funny, aren't there, aren't they? Walt? Yeah,

688
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Speaker 1: and this is an audience participation saying, so guys, pay

689
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Speaker 1: attention when it's your turn. The only thing that y'all

690
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: need to remember is when I say people are funny critters,

691
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: you say, what do you mean? What do you mean?

692
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: And if you listen, you'll hear yourself in here somewhere. Yeah,

693
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: so nice and loud, so the Michael pick it up. Yeah, Okay,

694
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Speaker 1: people are funny critters. What do you mean? Well, there's

695
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Speaker 1: apple pie bakers and crooked bookmakers and blinds and brunetts

696
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: and birthday forgetters and chicken fat lovers and blue eyed

697
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: soul brothers and drinkers boozers and winners and losers and

698
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: the elephant trains and tireless campaigners and fixtures and minutes

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00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: and paper clip benders and gores and stayers and pinuckle

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00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: players and handkersiff users and tissue abusers and interstate bikers

701
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: and wilderness hikers and joggers and attics and handball fanatics

702
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and kissers and tellers and friends with the fellers and

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00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: lovers and fighters and fingernail butters and mayonnaise dippers and

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Speaker 1: miracle whippers and newspaper readers and drivers and speeders and

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Speaker 1: old wade hookers and magazine lookers and people with answers

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Speaker 1: and bottomless dancers and quivering flunkers and basketball dunkers and

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Speaker 1: readers and thinkers and double scotch drinkers and solder straw

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00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: manglers and barnapkins, strangers and teasers and criers and high

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Speaker 1: rolling flowers and uncles and sisters and passive resistors and

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00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: virtuous girlies and sillies and squirrelies and weirdos and sickies

711
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: and five dollar quickies and xylophone pickers and popsickle lookers

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00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: and yawners and nappers and one handicappers and zippie old

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Speaker 1: tammers and lunatic rammers. People are funny critters, y'alld Pigasi

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Speaker 1: lying that's good. That is a mazy Why how do

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Speaker 1: you do that? Um? I don't know. Ya. Wow, that

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Speaker 1: was awesome. When did you learn that? About four? Made

717
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Speaker 1: it up four or five years ago? You've been doing

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Speaker 1: it for oh, okay, twenty five years, twenty five okay?

719
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Speaker 1: Something like you didn't do that when you played football,

720
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Speaker 1: Like when they made you stand up and sing, that

721
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: wasn't your routine. I did a couple of things, but

722
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Speaker 1: not that Meredith. He was He saved my life when

723
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Speaker 1: I was a rookie, I mean, because he'd get me

724
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Speaker 1: up to sing like the rookies have to do at meals,

725
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, at training camp. And uh, Meredith, the only

726
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: thing I knew was country music, you know. And so

727
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I started the country music song and Meredith gets up,

728
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: puts his arm around me, and starts singing with me.

729
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: So from then on the other veterans left me alone.

730
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Speaker 1: They didn't mess with you. You're guy. I was married

731
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Speaker 1: us a little boy. We all know, Meredith loved to

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Speaker 1: see turn out, but he couldn't. Ye now you could no, no, okay,

733
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Speaker 1: what was your favorite memory as a cowboy? Of course

734
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Speaker 1: you won a super Bowl? M uh. And and and

735
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Speaker 1: probably that was probably the most perfect game we ever

736
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Speaker 1: played because we beat my name in twenty four to three,

737
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: and they had a heck of a team then, you know,

738
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Speaker 1: and and uh, but we were one year away from

739
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: perfect season, one year away from being great. But uh,

740
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: and losing to us probably gave him some an issue

741
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Speaker 1: to uh sort of let you guys when you lost

742
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Speaker 1: the year before in the in the Super Bowl. Yes,

743
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Speaker 1: you ready to bring that one up? Micky, Well, it

744
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: was it led to their success. Well, and it's just

745
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: like I say, somebody said, well, y'all got beat Baltimore

746
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Speaker 1: Beach O sixteen thirteen. I said, well, there's a lot

747
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Speaker 1: of other teams that wasn't in the Super Trowel. That's right,

748
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Speaker 1: you know, And it's an honor to be in the

749
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl because they take the two best teams to

750
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Speaker 1: play and sometimes you win sometimes. And you know, before

751
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: there was the Super Bowl? Was the Super Bowl in

752
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Walt's first year, he probably didn't know any better. The

753
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: first two year he's in the league, they go to

754
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: the NFL Championship Game, which was the game at that right, Yeah,

755
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: you probably thought that's what just about what happened. Yeah,

756
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: but I mean I didn't play much in because Don

757
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Perkins was a hell of I was still ahead of

758
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: your right, but I got to play third damn situations

759
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: because Perk couldn't catch cold in a blizzard. Speaking of

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00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: cold in a blizzard, how cold was it at the

761
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: Ice Bowl? Thirteen below? Thirteen below? Do you have any

762
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: residual effects of the frost bid or anything afterwards? No,

763
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: some of them did, but I didn't. I didn't play

764
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Speaker 1: that much. So you had your hands. I had my

765
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Speaker 1: hands in the coat. Bye heater, you're Bob, Well, Bob

766
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Speaker 1: did it on the field. I was I didn't hardly

767
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: get on the field, and that's trouper bowl. But now

768
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Speaker 1: I played with some of the greatest guys in the world.

769
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Speaker 1: Don murdis one of the funniest white men I ever

770
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: and Lily was a pretty good player. Yea, yeah, mister

771
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: cowboy Bob, he's doing great. He's doing good. He's a

772
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: great guy. And uh, you know, and Dan Reeves that's

773
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: the best thing ever happened to meet. He picked me

774
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: for a roommate when I was a rookie, and he's

775
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: one of the smartest sumbucks I was ever around in

776
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: my life. So you had two guys that helped you

777
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: out right on the staff, Oh yeah. And so when

778
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: new house came along, I helped. He would run to

779
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: play and I said, no, god, dang, that's a Fresco

780
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: stack be fence. You don't block the end of block

781
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: the tackle, dummy. Did he have big thighs from Yeah? Yeah?

782
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: And good guy guy, what a great yeah he was. Well, Walt,

783
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: it's been great, haven't you here? Yeah, legend show Frisco's

784
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: all grown up now. Well, you know, I used to

785
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: livings and it was like two thousand people or maybe

786
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: fourteen in the City of Living sign. He's both on

787
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: the same post. All right, We got the Manster Randy

788
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: White in the house next Wednesday night here on the

789
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys Legend Show. That's what I told him one time.

790
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: He a good guy. I said, Randy, the only way

791
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: you could be dumber, it'd be bigger. All Right, walk

792
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: Carre saying thank you very much. We'll see you next

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Speaker 1: week right here on the Cowboys Legend Show. From the

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Speaker 1: Star