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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast, and I hope we

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Speaker 1: start right here. We wanted a different ending on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought that this team was ripe to

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Speaker 1: be picked off, and I'm talking about the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. Lacking offensively and right now, just

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Speaker 1: the way that it is in the NFL and with

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Speaker 1: this team, Learra, let me start with you. All eyes

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Speaker 1: will always be on Anthony Richardson here. They certainly will

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Speaker 1: against the Lions. I want to start with here. Didn't

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Speaker 1: get some help that he needed in some areas. Drops,

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Speaker 1: We had some penalties that was ridiculous. The amount of

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Speaker 1: numbers will get to those, but ar overall, the stat

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Speaker 1: line and the win loss, the way they came out

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Speaker 1: there was a different story right there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a much bigger picture than what the stat

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Speaker 2: line will reflect. In terms of Anthony's performance on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: I thought he was really decisive with some of his throws.

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Speaker 3: He had some great runs, broke off some really nice runs.

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Speaker 2: No sacks allowed, which was huge against this defensive front. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately the story of this one was just

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Speaker 2: gonna be that you had ten penalties and it's not

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Speaker 2: even necessarily the number of penalties, it's the plays on

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Speaker 2: which they came. Almost every big play downfield was called

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Speaker 2: back due to an array of penalties just across various people.

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Speaker 2: Not to put the blame on any one person, never

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Speaker 2: is that way. But yeah, there were just these great catches,

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Speaker 3: That would then be negated.

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Speaker 2: So it was kind of one of those days where

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Speaker 2: you just i mean, for lack of better explanation, but

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Speaker 2: just like nothing was falling into your lap. Like against

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Speaker 2: a team like the Detroit Lions, the hottest team in football,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have some things that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of go your way.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have some luck at some points, you got

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Speaker 2: to have some things that are out of favor on

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Speaker 2: their front, and everything.

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Speaker 3: Was just going the way of Detroit on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, none of those breaks came the Colts way. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you did have a lat too, with a nice highlight

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Speaker 2: the strip sack of Jared Goff. You had some opportunities

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Speaker 2: there with your defensive front, but just you know, not

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Speaker 2: enough consistent plays and what really killed you. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I think that the two things you're gonna point to

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Speaker 2: penalties arming one of them, the other is just lack

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Speaker 2: of converting within the red zone. You had early on,

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Speaker 2: in particular, really nice drives. You were moving the ball well.

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Speaker 2: You controlled time of possession through the first half, which

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Speaker 2: you knew was going to be a significant factor in

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Speaker 2: terms of keeping that Detroit offense off the field as

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Speaker 2: much as possible. But you got into the red zone

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Speaker 2: and you had to settle for field goals versus touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And that is just not going to do it against

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Speaker 2: that is as high scoring as Detroit is. So that's

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Speaker 2: the couple of factors right there that I'm going to

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Speaker 4: I'm want to go back to what you talked about

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Speaker 4: with Anthony and the sacks, because that is an impact here,

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Speaker 4: right of Like you can look at his stat line

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Speaker 4: and say eleven to twenty eight, and if you don't

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Speaker 4: watch the game, if you don't turn on the tape,

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Speaker 4: you might say, man, he sucked that game. He was awful.

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Speaker 4: But Anthony Richardson in this game, he was under pressure

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Speaker 4: on thirteen dropbacks. Per Pro Football Focus, he was not

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Speaker 4: sacked once. There were two quarterbacks in Week twelve who

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Speaker 4: were not sacked. Anthony Richardson on thirteen dropbacks and Baker

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Speaker 4: Mayfield on four dropbacks. So that tells you how good

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson was at avoiding sacks and a throwaway versus

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Speaker 4: a sack. You're looking at a loss of eight on

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Speaker 4: a sack or zero because of the throwaway. Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 4: threw three passes away when he was pressured, so those

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Speaker 4: all count toward his ledger, right, But those are all

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Speaker 4: plays that could have been sacks had he not got

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Speaker 4: the ball away. I mean, like I saw someone tweet

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Speaker 4: out I don't remember who it was that like Will

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Speaker 4: Levis is some of the best tape of any quarterback,

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Speaker 4: second year quarterback over the last few weeks. Okay, you

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Speaker 4: look at Will Levis's passing stats against the Texans, great

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Speaker 4: thumbs up. He took eight sacks in that game. Anthony

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Speaker 4: Richardson took zero. So who would you rather have there?

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Speaker 4: Would you rather have the guy who's losing you five

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Speaker 4: making all these excuses for Anthony Richardson and all that,

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Speaker 4: but like, just turn on the tape please, before you

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Speaker 4: have a take about Anthony Richardson, go and watch the tape.

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Speaker 4: Watch every one of his incompletions, Watch every one of

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Speaker 4: like you said, Lara, I thought the decisiveness was there.

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Speaker 4: This was not the type of game or he has

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Speaker 4: a sub fifty percent completion percentage that we saw earlier

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Speaker 4: no no interceptions, no, not even a ball thrown into

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Speaker 4: Harm's way. In this game, there was, you know, none

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Speaker 4: of those plays where you felt like he was maybe

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Speaker 4: really wasn't a lot of that. And that gives me

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Speaker 4: a lot of positivity about Anthony Richardson going through these

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Speaker 4: last five games, which you're gonna get into that your

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Speaker 4: season still lies ahead of you right now, and if

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Speaker 4: you get this play out Anthony Richardson and you get

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Speaker 4: better execution from the guys around him, the Colts could

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Speaker 4: win quite a few of these games.

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Speaker 1: Stay in this zone with me for a minute both ways.

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Speaker 1: Where you just said Anthony needs a little bit of help,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the offensive line. Give me

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Speaker 1: the Anthony angle with the offensive line. Obviously he had

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Speaker 1: three or four plays where they would have been sacks.

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Speaker 1: He made them no sacks, just like we said. But

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Speaker 1: then on the other side, Jonathan Taylor in the lack

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Speaker 1: of the running game, Lair, I'm gonna go over with you.

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Speaker 1: I want to concentrate on the offensive line. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of youngsters up there right.

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Speaker 3: Now, rookies.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many offenses are starting three rookies on

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Speaker 2: Tony Soprano has done an incredible job preparing that group

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Speaker 2: So they're just going to make it incredibly difficult whoever

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this Colts team is going to struggle

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Speaker 4: to be consistent when Jonathan Taylor is really averaging under

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Speaker 4: I know JT was a little over three in this

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Speaker 4: it's that's not sustainable there, and whatever the solution is,

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Speaker 4: you know, Shane Stikeen kind of told us that's kind

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Speaker 4: of top of mind this week that look, regardless of

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Speaker 4: who's on the field for the offensive line, if you've

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Speaker 4: being the concussion protocol. You just signed Mark Lewinsky to

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Speaker 4: about attrition during the season and like how that impacts you,

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Speaker 4: and he was like, it can whoever is on the field.

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Speaker 4: You've got to find a solution on how every team

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Speaker 4: Colts have dealt with a lot of attrition on their

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Speaker 4: offensive line when let's not forget when Will Fryes got hurt.

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Speaker 4: He was playing like one of the best, if not

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Speaker 4: a big loss for this football team.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was just remind me, remind me, you

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Speaker 2: remind everyone else. When is the earliest Ryan Kelly can

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 4: What's the Broncos game?

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Speaker 3: Broncos?

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Speaker 4: So you will be without him for one at least

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Speaker 4: one more game. Okay, hopefully he's back for that game

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Speaker 4: against Denver. He can get back for the stretch run

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Speaker 4: after the Bible.

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Speaker 2: Trying to like I was trying to keep it in line, Like,

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Speaker 2: oh I was yesterday I had Taekwon Lewis for Colts

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Speaker 2: did he miss or what game did he get hurt in?

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Speaker 2: How many did he miss when was Juju Brents when

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Speaker 1: Where are we at with Tanner Bordelini? Where are we

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Speaker 4: We'll see with Bordolini. Shane Stiken told us on Monday

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Speaker 4: that he's in the concussion protocol. It's not impossible for

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Speaker 4: pretty rare. So Shane Shane did say, you know, Danny

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Speaker 4: Pincer would be the guy in there. You know the

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Speaker 4: Colts kept Danny Pincer around this offseason. He missed all

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Speaker 4: I think it was an ankle ankle, broken ankle that

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Speaker 3: In the preseason game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that that's a He's a guy

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Speaker 4: who's got some experience in there. We've seen him play

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Speaker 4: some good football at center, specifically.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because he stepped in for Ryan Kelly in

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one. So you know, the Colts captain

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Speaker 4: Brown for a reason, and this is the reason he

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Speaker 4: if he has to go start you a game, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna need workable play out of him at center because

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Speaker 4: you got to be able to run the ball against

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Speaker 4: New England if you want.

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Speaker 1: To have a shot in this cause it's I'm going

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Speaker 1: to play the Devil's advocate. The guy that's watching from

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Speaker 1: the upper deck over there, you've got an RPO quarterback,

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm that guy up there looking,

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Speaker 1: why isn't that more consistent? We've talked about it on

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Speaker 1: this show. The more you feed that beast, the better

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Speaker 1: he gets. Obviously didn't show up right there. Is this

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Speaker 1: strictly an offensive line issue, And I want to bring

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Speaker 1: up you know what ar brings with that RPO. If

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Speaker 1: he's gonna tuck and run, that's an option there. Or

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, Hey, you got smooth sale, And why isn't

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Speaker 1: it flowing right there? Is it all centered on this

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Speaker 4: No, I think there. You know, Shane Stikeen kind of

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was a huge momentum. It would have been

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Speaker 2: The other area that I look to is the fact

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Speaker 4: Convert off of that, you turn that into something exactly.

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Speaker 2: You weren't able to capitalize on your defense, putting you

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Speaker 1: Halfay, before we get into the swing of what the

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Speaker 4: of set it in forget it JJ.

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Speaker 2: And also, I mean a lot of the time that

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Speaker 4: And I think it just gets magnified when they have

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Speaker 1: I saw a nice mature moment. I don't mean that

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Speaker 1: He was right in the face of his tight end

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Speaker 4: And after the game what he said, I thought it

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Speaker 2: Like it was just so such great like command, he

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Speaker 1: JJ, this Lions team didn't need fifty points like they

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Speaker 4: So, getting Taekwon back means you are as close to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Because DeForest Buckner left Week one with a back

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Jared Goff like you've got sacks and

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Speaker 2: Taekwon Lewis who you know, one of those guys who

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Speaker 2: how to attack rehab because he said, the rehab process

437
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Speaker 2: is so.

438
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Speaker 3: Much more mental than physical.

439
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Speaker 2: So just being through some of those crazy injuries that

440
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 2: he'd had, both Patilla and all of that, that he

441
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 2: just was like, okay.

442
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 3: With this one.

443
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Speaker 2: This is the rare injury in which I know my

444
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,679
Speaker 2: season's not over. If I have a glimpse of your

445
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 2: telling me, oh, I can come back. Not only am

446
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 2: I coming back, but I'm going to fast track that

447
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 2: by you know, maybe three weeks to get back sooner

448
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 2: than what we initially accept.

449
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Speaker 1: A man with an injury list that Taekwon's ad in

450
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: the last three four years, some people pack it up,

451
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: send it in, say enough, that's a warrior. That guy

452
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 1: keeps showing up, showing up, showing up, going through major

453
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: injury and he's such a solid player like that. Guys,

454
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 1: I ask a lot of dumb questions. I'm gonna ask

455
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Speaker 1: JJ the first one here, stupid question one. It is

456
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: it good? Is it bad? We've got three of the

457
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Speaker 1: top ten tacklers in the NFL.

458
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Speaker 3: UH.

459
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Speaker 4: I think that is probably a sign of how teams

460
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 4: have attacked this defense, that it's that many players. I

461
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 4: think individually, you're like, Okay, you're getting good play out

462
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 4: of zire Franklin, Nick Cross has been rock solid, really

463
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Speaker 4: really impressed with Nick Cross, the seasoned, the development he's made,

464
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Speaker 4: the strides he has made, you know, EJ Speed getting

465
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Speaker 4: in there too. I think that's probably been a product

466
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Speaker 4: of how teams have attacked the Colts. If it's like

467
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: we've had years where it's been like one guy right right,

468
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Speaker 4: or like Z's up there, he's got one hundred and

469
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Speaker 4: seventy tackles, and it's like that's because he's just a

470
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Speaker 4: monster in the interior. This is like you're getting a

471
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Speaker 4: ton of opportunities for tackles and you got to make them. Like,

472
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 4: those guys are still making the plays. This isn't to

473
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Speaker 4: diminish that, hey, the players are coming to them and

474
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 4: they're they're making them. But I think having that many

475
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Speaker 4: guys up there is probably signed teams are trying to

476
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: attack this Colts team with the ground game, which obviously

477
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 4: we saw early in the year, and then probably with

478
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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff over the middle of me. How

479
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 4: many times did Jared GoF dump it off to David

480
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 4: Montgomery right on a check game this game, the screen

481
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 4: game exactly, Like that's how teams are attacking this Colts defense.

482
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Speaker 4: It seems like.

483
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Speaker 1: Nick Cross A little bit more on him, quiet guy,

484
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Speaker 1: don't hear a lot of them out of the press,

485
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Speaker 1: had some issues. He was bench stage up. He was

486
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Speaker 1: benched in the last couple of years. But like you said,

487
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Speaker 1: you're really surprised.

488
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Speaker 3: He was a really young player when he came in, right, you.

489
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Speaker 2: Know, twenty, Yeah, when he was the youngest he made

490
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 2: his debut, Yeah, twenty out of Maryland. And I talked

491
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Speaker 2: to Shane about this on Monday when we sat down

492
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Speaker 2: for Colts three sixty, and he said that really going

493
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Speaker 2: back to last.

494
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Speaker 3: Season, this is not just a this season thing.

495
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Speaker 2: This is going back to last year. Nick committed to

496
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Speaker 2: being one of the first guys in this building. Shane said,

497
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Speaker 2: he's here at five thirty. He's one of the earliest

498
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Speaker 2: guys into the building doing all the additional extra things.

499
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Speaker 2: He's just really committed and taken. You know, I mean,

500
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Speaker 2: how much have we heard this season in the process,

501
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Speaker 2: the process of the process. I think Nick Cross is

502
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Speaker 2: a great example of committing to the process, looking at

503
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: the guys around and figuring out, what are the additional

504
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: things that I need to do if I'm going to

505
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: be the best version of myself for this defense. And

506
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: he took all of those things to heart. Seriously, Shane said,

507
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: it's every additional thing, extra time in film, meeting room,

508
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: getting in here, early training room, whatever it is. Nick

509
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: Cross is committed to it and it is seeing dividends

510
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

511
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Speaker 4: It's another reminder that like development is not linear. Like yeah,

512
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: Nick Cross started off, Hey, this is great. First remember

513
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 4: the first REPI head and training camp be picked off

514
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: Matt Ryan and seven on seven.

515
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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, oh really a lifetime that.

516
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: Does feel like a lifetime ago. And you're like you're

517
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: sitting there being like, man, okay, like maybe the colt's

518
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: got something here, maybe he's going to start week one.

519
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 4: He does start week one, he is benched by week two,

520
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: and then he doesn't start again until he gets some

521
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: you know, a little at the end of last year

522
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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, look where he.

523
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Speaker 2: Is well, because I think that early on he's relying

524
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Speaker 2: on like I mean, he is just genetically like talented,

525
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: like physically like I mean, it was unbelievable when you

526
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: look at some of you know, his measurables coming out

527
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: of college, right, So like there's a level of that

528
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: that you kind of get by with early on in particular,

529
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: you're playing instinct of you're playing fast, but then you

530
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: kind of figure out how the rest of the league.

531
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Speaker 2: You know how complex everything is when you're facing different

532
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: offenses weekend and week out, you're facing different quarterbacks, you

533
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: have to make different adjustments and all of that. So yeah,

534
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: I think that we have really seen Nick Cross build

535
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: himself into a complete player and that's such a credit

536
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: to him.

537
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Speaker 4: And look, I mean there's still more development to go there, No, certainly,

538
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: but I think but now he.

539
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Speaker 2: Knows the things right to invest in the development and

540
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: how you get there.

541
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Speaker 4: And like if we're zooming out, I think you go

542
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: into next year and you're like, okay, like Nick Cross

543
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: is a starting safety on this football team, and we

544
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: can envision maybe even another step for him. Okay, you've

545
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: established yourself as you can start in this league on

546
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: this defense. That's the next next level. Can you take

547
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: a next step? And and you know, hey, next year

548
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: is a contract there from across Big.

549
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Speaker 1: One coming up. Hey, this is the Thanksgiving edition. Obviously

550
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: it's coming up at the end of this week. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be giving thanks on this show in just

552
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Speaker 1: a minute. Thanks to everybody that's watching on the YouTube channel,

553
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: and of course our Colts Audio network. Thanks for listening

554
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: in all the information you want, especially from these two

555
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: about the upcoming game and what the rest of the

556
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: season looks like. Go to Colts dot com at Larra Overton,

557
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter x at JJ Stankowitz. Same way. Time now

558
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: to give thanks. Oh wait a minute, not not not

559
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: give thanks exactly, just yet? Can we talk about the

560
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: fan bases at that's going on at Lucas Oil Stadium.

561
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Just just be quick with me, guys. We're all on

562
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: the field down there. We hear it. JJ, you're upstairs.

563
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: Let's go Lions chance, we heard those. We heard the

564
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: Steelers when they came in. We saw the Bears rit

565
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: this really quick. Fans kind of gotten to.

566
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: Draw just some really ravid mid Western fans.

567
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Speaker 3: Been a weird year. Steelers, Bills, Lions, Bears showing up.

568
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: They travel well, it's an easy trip, like it's just

569
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: kind of I think that's part of it is.

570
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: It's a little to you. You were talking about things

571
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: being magnified.

572
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: I think that's a little magnified this year, just because

573
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: of how the schedule is.

574
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: They're showing up, but you didn't notice Steelers and Bears

575
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: fans in those games because the Colts won. Yeah, and you, okay,

576
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: you notice Bills and Lions fans because Lines won those

577
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: games by three by three score.

578
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: And I mean, and they're two of the hotter teams

579
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: in the league right now.

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00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean the Super Bowl.

581
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Speaker 4: I think they're the two best teams in the league.

582
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you're looking at those are probably teams that

583
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: are going to be in the respective conference champions.

584
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Speaker 1: And you said it earlier under five hundred. You know,

585
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: some people are going to show up, some are you know,

586
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: you get to nine and three at this point of

587
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: the year, there's gonna be a lot of fans.

588
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Zire Franklin hit it on the head

589
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: where he got asked about it on Monday and he said.

590
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: I asked them about it in the lot right on

591
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 3: Sunday too.

592
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Speaker 4: And I thought it was you know, his answer was great,

593
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, we got to give them more to

594
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: cheer for, We got to give them more of a reason.

595
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Can I say one thing too.

596
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I was talking to a good friend of mine who is,

597
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: you know, the Lions reporter, and we were talking a

598
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: little bit, and you also feel.

599
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 3: Like that it's such a long suffering fan base. They

600
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: have been they they have been.

601
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: In the cellar, right, they have dwelled in there for

602
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: years and years, and now they're kind of finally finding

603
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: under Dan Campbell and because of some of these incredible

604
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: moves that they've made the trade for golf, they've drafted

605
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: well all of that, and that this is like we've

606
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: waited so long for this, this is our window.

607
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: We are not wasting it, you know, like.

608
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: They can they can see the light because they took

609
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: the paper bags off their heads, Like yeah, like good

610
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: for them, by the way.

611
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: So I think that that's also why it's a bit

612
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: heightened maybe from from the Detroit standpoint, is you know,

613
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: because you have Detroit fans who are like, I've never

614
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: seen a playoff win until last year.

615
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: I also think Detroit and like kind of Buffalo sort

616
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 4: of have this like us against the world mentality to

617
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: their their fan bases that is like probably a nice

618
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: little motivating factor of like, hey we're we're Detroit and Buffalo.

619
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Speaker 4: I mean you're not like you know, we thought about

620
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: as you know, the you know, your New York's, your Chicago's,

621
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: Miami's whatever, right, and hey, when we get to show

622
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: ourselves and our civic pride, we're going to go show

623
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 4: it on the road. And I got it. We got

624
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 4: we got football teams to drive it to.

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00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Them outside of Detroit, Michigan. And I have family back home,

626
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: and we were texting through the game and called after

627
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: the game and previously and everything, every one of those

628
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: fans back home. Lions. Sorry, son, we love you, Sorry, bro,

629
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: we love you. Sorry cause we love you. You know,

630
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: we love you. But it's our lions. It's our lions

631
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: are rooting them on. So a little bit of a

632
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: tip of the happy because it's been over fifty some

633
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: years that they've had zero success, So a little bit,

634
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: a little bit uh, never too late, never too whatever.

635
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: That phrase is.

636
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: Glad we only see him every four years.

637
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Who knows? All right, let's give

638
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: thanks the Patriots, await And what I say by giving

639
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: thanks is yes or no to both of you. JJ. First,

640
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: we got to win out to make the playoffs, yes

641
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: or no.

642
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 4: No, But but it's real hard. But it's real hard,

643
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: it's real hard. There is a path to making it.

644
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: At nine and eight, you gotta beat Denver, you have

645
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: to beat Denver, and you got to get some other

646
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: games to go your way. And honestly, that other loss

647
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 4: probably needs to be the New York Giants because that

648
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: doesn't count for the AFC Conference tie break. So having

649
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: said all of that, this game on Sundays must win

650
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: in my mind.

651
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely disagree or agree on. I'm saying win out there myself.

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00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: I know what JJ sam because his sneaking league.

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: You.

654
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I think part of it, anything can happen.

655
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: Part of it for me is.

656
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: Less about who you're facing and just about stacking wins

657
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: and building some momentum and building some confidence and just

658
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: kind of going we're going on a run. And we

659
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: have seen this locker room. A lot of guys have

660
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: been part of a team that has done that in

661
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: the past.

662
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: I think it's just.

663
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: A little bit about playing the most complete football you've

664
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: played all season, and then doing it in consecutive weeks

665
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: and back to back and finding another level because now

666
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: you finally have a little bit of continuity that you

667
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: can carry for all.

668
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Right, you know what I want to see this weekend?

669
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

670
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: I want to see the Colts win by two scores.

671
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: There you go.

672
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: How great have we been able to breathe in the

673
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: fourth court.

674
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: The Colts have not won of their five games. The

675
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: biggest margin to victory has been six points. Win a

676
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: game by two scars, and that that just I don't

677
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: care who you're playing, because you're gonna be playing a

678
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: lot of teams that we're gonna be saying, I don't

679
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 4: care who you're playing over the last stretch of this season.

680
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: Win some games by two scores. Go beat opponents that

681
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: you are better than by more than six. Don't let

682
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: it come down to the last possession. Make sure that

683
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: you go put your thumb on this game and say

684
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: we are the better football team. Let's show it. I

685
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: think that's how you can spark a run.

686
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Drake Mays playing great young quarterback. We see what they got,

687
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Stevenson the running back, he's always gonna do what he does.

688
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: Jared Mayle first first year, and that they're gonna be tough.

689
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: It's going to be up there. But just for yes,

690
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: let me let me have some fun here. We beat

691
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots, we got the bye week, we go into

692
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: the Denver, we beat the Broncos. Are you just sitting

693
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: high in much.

694
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: Because you're seven and seven and you're like, we got

695
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: two more games left against the Titans and the Jaguars,

696
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: and our only road game left is against the New

697
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: York Giants. There is a possibility that those three teams

698
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: will be picking one, two, three in the twenty twenty

699
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: five NFL draft. Now, having said that, having said that,

700
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 4: do not count your chickens, no, because twenty twenty one

701
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: we might have counted our chickens a little bit before.

702
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: The team that had the number one overall picked, I've

703
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: changed them with a winning in the playoffs.

704
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: I know that the scenarios that away are a ridiculous.

705
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: Oh okay, hold on, I got another one for you.

706
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: Ahead.

707
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: If the Houston Texans, oh boy, lose to the Jacksonville

708
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: Jaguars and the division at jackson in the division, there's

709
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: a chance you win the division. Still that's in place

710
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: right now, it is it is not in concrete right now.

711
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: I want to just go back to you.

712
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so real quick, here's Houston's remaining schedule. They go

713
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: to Jacksonville. They then get the Miami Dolphins.

714
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: O the.

715
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me get let me get this right,

716
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: because I just there's a buzzsaw stretch. It is I

717
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: buzzsaw here here's the buzzsaw. I should have I thought

718
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: I could do this memory all right. At Jacksonville, they

719
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: get their bye week same as US Week fourteen home

720
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: against Miami, a surging Miami Dolphins team, the healthy tw

721
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: with healthy Tua. Apparently John hus Smith is the second

722
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: coming of Tony Gonzalez. Then you've got at Kansas City

723
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: on December twenty first. Four days later you're hosting the

724
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens. Then you end the season against the team

725
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: that ended the Jacksonville Jaguars season last year in Nashville,

726
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans. Wow, and the chaos of Will Levis

727
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: who beat the beat the Texans on the road despite

728
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: getting sacked eight times and throwing a pick six. This

729
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: is great, This don't. What I'm saying is if the

730
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: Texans lose this weekend and the Colts win, do not

731
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: right off the division just yet.

732
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay, since we're talking about Thanksgiving and we're talking we

733
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: dropped Miami in there. Did you guys hear the quote

734
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: from Mike McDaniel about preparing the Dolphins to play in

735
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Green Bay on Thanksgiving?

736
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: How do you do that?

737
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Because what am I gonna do?

738
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Walk around with ice cubes in my pocket and throw

739
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: it at him like he's so funny, Like he's like

740
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: he's so witty and dry, like I think he's hilarious.

741
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: But I just thought that's great, Like.

742
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: You're always gonna get asked about, oh, frozen, you know,

743
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: frozen Tundra Lamboufield, especially when you know you're Miami.

744
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: But it's like, what are we gonna do? Like we

745
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: can only what do we what do you alter? Like

746
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: what how do you prepare a team? I don't know.

747
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: We just go in and we play in it, right,

748
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: like hilarious, walk around ice cubes in my pocket and

749
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: throw them at him.

750
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: So the Miami Dolphins, this is a big game on Thanksgiving. Oh,

751
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: like big game for the Colts.

752
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Keep your eye on them, Colts fans, Denver and Miami,

753
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: we gotta keep our eyes.

754
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 4: Go Pack go. That's because Miami. After that, they they

755
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: get they get the Jets twice, be moribund to New

756
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: York Jets. They had that aforementioned game at Houston. They

757
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: get the forty nine ers, which that San Francisco is

758
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna they're kind of a mess right now, but

759
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: they'll be back. They go to the Cleveland Browns yep,

760
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: which you know Jamis is good for you know, random

761
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: win over the Steelers and quote, what I'm saying is

762
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins end of the season schedule, little little,

763
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: soft little they've got a shot at making a run

764
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: here and making that Colts win in week seven count

765
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: a little bit more.

766
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: And when this happens, and yeah, we're calling it early.

767
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: We all I always do. At least, hey, we're gonna

768
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: go into the you know, going to New England, do

769
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: what we have to do, take care of business. Somehow someway,

770
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: go out to a tough, upcoming Sean Payton led Broncos team,

771
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: and then you go into these two. I'm talking to

772
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: you specifically on this because you know about these division games.

773
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: You've been around here long enough. They stink and drive

774
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: you nuts. You've got bad, bad teams, and they've got

775
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: great teams. But boy boy, those end of the year games,

776
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: they go into your barn and you're like, well, we'll

777
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: win this one and the line's thirteen, and somehow, some way,

778
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: you lose twenty four to twenty to a team that

779
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: you shouldn't well.

780
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: And the Titans always love to play it tough.

781
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they no matter what their season looks like,

782
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: that you were gonna get their best.

783
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: That is just in their DNA.

784
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: That is how they attack, and that's kind of just

785
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: tends to be, you know with division games, how it

786
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: plays out.

787
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got you got them in your barn, and.

788
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: That's that's huge.

789
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: That's two at home. That's why I mean massive. Yeah,

790
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: we got we got Tennessee in Jacksonville. Houston also is

791
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: Tennessee and Jacksonville. But they got him on the road.

792
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: So that is where I'm like, Okay, you know, if

793
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: you're if you're envisioning a world where the Colts look

794
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: to win the division, they probably gotta win.

795
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Out right, absolutely, Yeah, I mean.

796
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: So because you're you're not, you can't win the tiebreaker

797
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: over Houston and.

798
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: You gotta have And by the way, some wheels got

799
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: to fall off in Houston for that to happen. But

800
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: they did it.

801
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: Are they already? It's true, but that.

802
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: They we saw their flip last year. They ended up

803
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: being representative.

804
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: We also saw the Jaguars flip last year. Right, It's

805
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: a reminder nothing is ever settled.

806
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I like the we're at though, guys. I like where

807
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: we're at with five games left. Obviously, you guys will

808
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: both be up in uh both be up in New England.

809
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Give me it real quick. It's gonna be cold up there.

810
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: Do you get out?

811
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Do you actually don't think it's colder there than here?

812
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: Actually forties, it'll be Yeah.

813
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I think the low is in like the high twenties.

814
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: The high is right around forty. So yeah, not terrible,

815
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: but uh yeah, we'll get out and we'll do a

816
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: little dinner up there and everything.

817
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: So I heard, I heard a bird flew on my

818
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: shoulder and said the great Amanda Foster from Colts dot com.

819
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: You can read her obviously, Yes, is good as headed

820
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: to Boston? Is that true?

821
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna be well, not Boston, because the game's not

822
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: in Boston, Jeffrey, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna be uh

823
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: tag team in coverage from good Foxborough.

824
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: And by good for you, I said that because she's

825
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: sitting right behind the cameras. Have fun out there too,

826
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: New England native, New England native.

827
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: That's true.

828
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: That's true.

829
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, real quick on the Patriots now, because we

830
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: don't have a preview show on Thursday on account of

831
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: a being Thanksgiving. Drake May is kind of nice. Yeah,

832
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 4: Drake May is kind of nice player. The little bits

833
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: and pieces I've seen from him, I'm like, I think

834
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: this kid can ball a little bit. You gotta be,

835
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 4: you gotta be a little bit worried about just like

836
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: he can come make a couple of plays with his

837
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: legs that make you just worried enough. This is not

838
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: gonna be a cakewalk for the Colts. You know, you

839
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 4: look at their receiving talent and you're like, who's he

840
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: throwing the ball to? You got Pop Douglas, you know,

841
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 4: a couple of guys, but he's Drake May just has

842
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: like some sort of it factor. Yeah, that you gotta be.

843
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: You got to be accountable for him because he can

844
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: he can also run it. You look at what he's

845
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: done right on the ground.

846
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Great TV last week on the run, sprinting out to

847
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: the right, getting bared down on defensive.

848
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: Larry's for ninety five yards against the Titans earlier this month.

849
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he, Drake Drake May is gonna be a

850
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: good player in this league. And I think right now

851
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: you're already seeing the signs that he's gonna be.

852
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: A good And that's part of why I think that

853
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: for this defense, you got to kind of come out

854
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: like you did against the Jets and just smother him early. Yes,

855
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: you know, like the way that you went their first

856
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: five drives and didn't allow them a first down. Like again,

857
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: you know, I mean obviously, like I'm not to not

858
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: to equate Aaron Rodgers to Drake May right this, but

859
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of saying that some people might.

860
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: Say Drake May is playing better right now, well.

861
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just saying that same type of imposing

862
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: front domination early.

863
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: I think that if you can do that.

864
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: I loved what we saw in that performance, so I

865
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: think if you can come out with some sort of

866
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: similar effectiveness and draw upon what went well in that game,

867
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: especially you know, knowing how the Jets were going to

868
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: try to run on you and what you were able

869
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: to do. So that's just kind of that's something that

870
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: I think noted right of course, the good young quarterback

871
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: that Drake May is, I think for this defense you

872
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: would like to see some sort of similar attack.

873
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: By the way, Drake May is the only starting quarterback

874
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: in the NFL young.

875
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? And little fun tidbit

876
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: you probably remember Clyde Christensen, of course, offensive coordinator quarterbacks.

877
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: I spent the last couple of years, last three years

878
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: volunteer assisting for Mac Brown's squad down there in North Carolina.

879
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: Knew all about Josh Downs, raved about Josh Downs. We

880
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: asked him about Drake May last year. He said, I said, well,

881
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: who's you reminded? He said, here's what he is. If

882
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: you want as close as you can get to Andrew Luck,

883
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: it's Drake May.

884
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: Wow.

885
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: And he and he had coached Andrew locking that so

886
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: high praise for him, and now he's getting the reps

887
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: that he needs. Like I had said, I saw an

888
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: incredible touchdown pass from Drake May on the run out

889
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: of the pocket, busted making a thirty five forty five

890
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: yard throw, crossed the middle touchdown. So the kids got it.

891
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Colts are gonna be faced with the guy who's you know,

892
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: he is ready to run and ready to throw. I

893
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: don't know that he has a receiver help out there

894
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: that they really want, because when you talk about the

895
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: receivers out there, you talk more about the tight ends,

896
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: the two tight ends, and the whiteouts.

897
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: You know, well, it's funny like Drake May. After the

898
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two college season, it was like, all right,

899
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: it's him and Caleb Williams neck and neck to be

900
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: the number one overall pick. After the twenty three season.

901
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: Drake May's play falls off a little bit with North

902
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: Carolina last year because he doesn't have Josh Downs. Josh

903
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: Downs was his guy. He was throwing to downs. One

904
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: thousand yard seasons, seventy eighty catches. He loses Josh Downs.

905
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: That offense loses Josh Downs, and the numbers don't look

906
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: as good. The tape was still there and that's why

907
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: he was a top three pick.

908
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: Would you say he was playing back in his tar

909
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: heels a little bit?

910
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Ah?

911
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 4: I will I In fact, I would say that.

912
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: Good one guys, all right, hey, good show. Obviously the

913
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Patriots wll wait, that's a one o'clock kickoff up in Foxborough.

914
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: JJ and Learra will have boots on the ground and

915
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: a Manda as well.

916
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: I probably will have boots.

917
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will have those.

918
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

919
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: The coldest I've ever been, I've traveled to a lot

920
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: of places around this world. The coldest I've ever been

921
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: is a Boston Common going across that field one day

922
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: in January, across that area and not having the proper

923
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: lining that I had on, and I wanted to stop

924
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: and just I mean, it was the coldest I've ever

925
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: been is Boston. So unfortunately I won't be up there

926
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: this weekend with you, but guys, I'm there with you

927
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: in spirit.

928
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: Appreciate it and snow boots and snow boots and snow boots.

929
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: All right, Thanksgiving time, guys. I want to go with

930
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: this obviously Thursday football. Three great games, three great games

931
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: are happening this coming Thursday. I want to go over

932
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: some traditions. Are you getting your hands dirty? Miss Overton?

933
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you in the kitchen all? Are you

934
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: going to relatives? Are gonna feed you? What's the well,

935
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: it's a lineup.

936
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: I already have on my waistbandy.

937
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: Stretch, yeah you need those.

938
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: Already got these also their silk swim keep sliding off.

939
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: If you've just been seeing me, I'm just like sliding postures.

940
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: Really awful day, Really.

941
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: Mom, I'm so sorry, I like very much.

942
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sliding around so yeah, I already got

943
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: on my strategy pants, so ready to go with an

944
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: elastic waistband. We are going to my husband's famley on Thursday,

945
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: and then on Friday, we'll head to Louisville. We will

946
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: see my family night and we will make a little

947
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: venture over to Churchill Downs and you know, kind of

948
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: taking all of all of Louisville.

949
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: So Churchill Downs. Yeah, for the race, the.

950
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: Fam goes over to racing take the end of the

951
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: fall meet.

952
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.

953
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: Just go over and watch the ponies.

954
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, give me it. What's going on in

955
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: the stink of itself?

956
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: My my favorite Thanksgiving tradition is that my my lovely,

957
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: wonderful mother makes me a non dairy pumpkin pie that

958
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: no one else eats because everyone else is like, give

959
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: me the real stuff. And I get a whole pumpkin

960
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: pie to myself every week a.

961
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Couple of days. It's gone a couple of weeks just

962
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: for me.

963
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 4: Not cheese.

964
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Right, So, are you getting your hands dirty in the

965
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: kitchen at all? Helping out the wife or it all?

966
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: We're going to some relatives place up in Chicago, so

967
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: I'll probably just be on making sure my boys don't

968
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: break anything around the house duty for the most part.

969
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, but as we will be on football right

970
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: of course on the TV.

971
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: I got Drumstick Dash.

972
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Ye oh yeah, get a quick little a.

973
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: Quick little plug for anyone who is around Indianapolis on

974
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving morning, the Wheeler Mission Drumstick Dash goes through Broad Ripple.

975
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: All are welcome. It is family friendly. There is a

976
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: two and a half mile course. There's also a four

977
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: point three mile course. Biggest fundraiser of the year for

978
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: Wheeler Mission and all the phenomenal work that they do

979
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: with the city's homelessness and to provide services for women

980
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: and children across Central Indiana. So it's an outstanding cause.

981
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: I will be there. It's an annual tradition that I

982
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: very much love so much. And you can try to

983
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: catch Dash the turkey. You know, we were talking about

984
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: eluding bears and alligators, but this is one you want to.

985
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 4: Catch the churchy, no serpentine.

986
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: There's a prize when you catch a dash there at

987
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: the starting good call on that.

988
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: Wheeler Mission has always worked at the Colts for a

989
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: long long time. People, Hey, amazing people down there. If

990
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: you want to help people less fortunate than you are

991
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: on this holiday season, it's coming up. We got the

992
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: next six weeks of it go to Wheeler Mission. I

993
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's Wheeler Mission dot Com. But you

994
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 1: can find out they can.

995
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: Get giving Tuesday.

996
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: They do great work up there, A good quale. I'm

997
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: glad that you said that. And by the way, we

998
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: need an update, Larra Overton. How many miles for how

999
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: many days? Now? You have run at least one mile?

1000
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: So on November one it was five years? So November

1001
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: one plus twenty four or five or whatever we're at.

1002
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: So I don't like eighteen hundred and fifty something, eighteen.

1003
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty something consecutive.

1004
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Keep it.

1005
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: I still keep a paper planner on very old school,

1006
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: so I write it down in my notepad.

1007
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: So I've got running at least a mile a day.

1008
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: For give me the number again. It's ridiculous.

1009
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: Eighteen hundred and fifty something eighteen to fifty basically five.

1010
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Years in almost one month. Wow, we're coming up on Yeah.

1011
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: I have eaten for eighteen hundred straight days. I've known that.

1012
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: That's about best. Hey, Jon, close us out right now, buddy.

1013
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: You mentioned, uh, we're going to be tuned into football

1014
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: on Thanksgiving. Fortunately, Thanksgiving dinner starts at three point thirty

1015
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: pm Central, which is the kickoff of the line or

1016
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: not the Lions, the Giants Cowboys game. Oh yeah, which

1017
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm still going to tune into because I'm

1018
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: a Sickoh absolutely, but that that's the that's a good

1019
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: little break in between Bears, Lions, and Dolphins passes.

1020
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: Okay, really quickly though, Jaja, you mentioned, of course you

1021
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: want to be rooting Colts.

1022
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 3: Fans should be rooting for the Packers right in this one.

1023
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Are there any other games that we've been watching with

1024
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: implications for the Indianapolis Colts on not.

1025
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: On Thursday, but over Thanksgiving?

1026
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers Bangels, Black Friday game now.

1027
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: Which is Raiders Chiefs. Not much of an impact there,

1028
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 4: Steelers Bangles. If you want to potentially think about the

1029
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: Steelers getting drawn into a late season wild card positioning battle,

1030
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: they're eight and three, you're pretty far behind them right now.

1031
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: You want to root for the Bengals if you say,

1032
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: I just want the Bengals to be done and out

1033
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: of my mind, you want the Steelers to win. Since

1034
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: he's still four and seven, they still a shot if

1035
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: they can run the table Houston at Jacksonville. Keep an

1036
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: eye on that one, and then let's see what else

1037
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: we got. Oh, Monday night Browns at Broncos.

1038
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: Nice. Oh, I'm saying.

1039
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: Jams Winston already winning one game in the snow.

1040
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: And Broncos have the same bye week as the Colts.

1041
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: They do, so both teams real quick, real quick on

1042
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: the late bye week. So the Colts have a week

1043
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 4: four late, latest possible bye. There's there are five other

1044
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: teams that have the latest possible by all of them

1045
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: played on Thursday night. The Colts have not. So all

1046
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 4: those other teams have got mini bye to get a

1047
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: little bit of rest, a little extra self scout, a

1048
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 4: little just mental break. The Colts have not got that.

1049
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Hey, this pretty good one. Uh, No chance that Broncos

1050
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: Colts game could be flexed.

1051
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's too late, right, it already

1052
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: made that.

1053
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: Calla it's not going to get flexed. You got Packers

1054
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: Seahawks on Sunday night. It's too where, it's too late

1055
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: for the Thursday night game.

1056
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Okay, just curious because that one, that's implication. I mean,

1057
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, the loser could be out of the mix

1058
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: at that point. Who knows if both teams?

1059
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not.

1060
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Did you you didn't talk to Goodel about that when

1061
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: he was at the game on Sunday, I make a suggesting.

1062
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: You didn't go up to him and say God, I.

1063
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: Did get a chance to say hi to him. Yeah,

1064
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: he came right in front of me a commissioner, are

1065
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: same thing. I'm not bagging your commissioner, I'm not, but

1066
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: you break my hand every time I've shooken your I've

1067
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: shooken shaken shook in your hand. I mean he goes

1068
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: for the crush, not the crush, but it goes for

1069
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: to let you there. I'm almost down to one knee.

1070
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: When you think when you shake hands you need to

1071
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: work on your grips, yeah, coach, I mean, I'm serious.

1072
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: Is that these guys in the back. I've shookn a

1073
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: lot of hands over my life. But Goodell goes on

1074
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: and he's like like this, you're down to one knee.

1075
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Love your commission by the way I think you find me.

1076
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: I think there's probably like a ten year moratorium on

1077
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: Colts Broncos primetime games after the two Thursday I came.

1078
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: I don't think we're getting out until about twenty thirty two.

1079
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: That's right, good point. Hey, good show today, Thanks for

1080
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: your help.

1081
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: Have a great thanks to hey, Hey, great.

1082
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for both of you.

1083
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for Ava behind the camera and Amanda Foster.

1084
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Thank you both, and a big giving thanks to you guys,

1085
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening every week that

1086
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: you guys are here, and I know you Colts fans

1087
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: that are rabid and they're going to be filling the

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