1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Jake bateson to try to win this game. There it 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: is Fox, the whole chick away, it is up. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Then it is good. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: It is Week fifteen in the NFL season, and I 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: have a very special guest for you guys this week. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Matt Ryan, former League MVP, current analysts for CBS Sports. Matt, 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: thanks for joining me. I appreciate you taking the time. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 4: Of course, happy to be on with you. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: So week fifteen, monster matchup between Detroit and Buffalo. Just 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: how much are you looking forward to, just as a 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: football fan of this matchup Sunday between two MVP you 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: know candidates and Jared Goff and Josh Allen. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: How much you looking forward to that matchup? 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: Now? I'm fired up. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing better than when you see teams 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: this time of the year that are playing really good 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: football go head ahead. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: And you know, quite. 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Honestly, we've got a chance to see this as a 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: preview of what could happen in February, and so I'm looking. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 4: Forward to it. The energy of the Lions fan base. 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: You know, I've only been to a game as a player, right, 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: and so you know, maybe it wasn't the same the 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: same Lions football team that we're seeing now, but the 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: energy from the fans has always been unbelievable. Great fan 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: base and looking forward to to kind of feeling that energy. 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: But then watching this game, I think you're talking about 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: two teams that are explosive on the offensive side of 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: the ball, opportunistic on the defensive side of the ball. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to watching it. It's gonna be a lot 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: of fun. 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Your your crew will be in Detroit in the pregame 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: show for this matchup. 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: You get to see it in person. 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: Matt, how much would you have loved to play for 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and this offense with with all the weapons 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: that that Jared has at his disposal. 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would have. I would have loved it. 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Right, You've got you've got pieces, you know on the outside, 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, explosive pieces, and they've got multiple different guys, right, 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: And I think that's always you know, you're r you know, 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: your best situation as a quarterback when you have you know, 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: three or four different targets that you trust that all 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: kind of have different skill sets. 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: But then you you know, you talk. 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: About the running back combination uh and and sonic and 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: knuckles and what they can do and their ability to 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: be explosive not only in the run game, but checking 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: the football down or screening it to him, which they 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: do an. 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: Excellent job of. 53 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and by the way, we might have the 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: best offensive line in football. And on top of that, 55 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: you've got a creative, you know, play caller that is 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: not scared to take shots, it's not scared to call gadgets. 57 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: But at their core, they're a run the football. 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: Play action team and for me as a quarterback, that 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: was that was kind of my strength, right was was 60 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: in that play action pass game. And I love what 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: they're doing with Jarrett. I think he's done an excellent job. 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: When you watch Jared, what impresses you the most about 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: just the way he's played and the consistency that he 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: has shown really all year long. 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's just it. I think it's the consistency. Right. 66 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: You have that one outlier game where they turn the 67 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: foot where he turned the football over five times, but 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: you know, other than that, he's taking great care of 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: the football while being aggressive and being explosive in the 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: past game, and really, you know that's that's like the 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: Shangri law of playing quarterback, right. You don't want to 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: turn the football over, but you want to create these 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: explosive plays and take advantage of opportunities down the field. 74 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: And I think he's done a great job with it. 75 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: But to me, it comes down to decision making, right, Like, 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: if you're going to balance those two right of not 77 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: turning the football over and still creating these chunk plays, 78 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: you have to be an excellent decision maker, and I 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: think he has been that. I think he's talked about 80 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: it too, right of in the last two years, not 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: feeling like he has to do too much right, just 82 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: letting the game come to him and making the plays 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: when they're there. And I think he's done that about 84 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: as well as anybody in the league this year. 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: And you see Josh Allen that that's kind of been 86 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: the mo o with him this year too. You look 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: at the interceptions last I think it was eighteen. He's 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: had double digit interceptions in each of the last four years, 89 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: but only five is it kind of the same thing 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: when you watch them too. 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: He's playing within the offense. 92 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: He knows he's got weapons around him, and he's kind 93 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: of letting the game come to him more than he 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: has in years pass Is that why we're talking about 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: him as an MVP candidate as well? 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 97 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, good quarterback play starts 98 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: with that, right, It's making good decisions, you know. I think, Josh, 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: they're a little bit different, at least from my perspective, 100 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: offensively with what they do right, and it's not there's 101 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of play action in there, but it's 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: not like predict Their passing game is not predicated on 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: kind of hard Selle play action like the Lions is. 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: But I agree with you. I think he's making great decisions. 105 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: He probably runs with the football more than j I mean, 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: he definitely runs with the football more than Jared does, 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: and I think that's a big part of what he 108 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: brings to the offense as well. I think they're passing numbers, 109 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, the yardage and those kind of things doesn't 110 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: jump off the charts, but it's the efficiency with which 111 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: you're playing and then his ability to extend plays and 112 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: use his legs that I think has him right, you know, 113 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: at the top of the MVP you know discussion. 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: Look, you played with some good offensive lines, especially when 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: you made that run in sixteen to the Super Bowl. 116 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: But you mentioned a little bit earlier. 117 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: But when you have an offensive line that's as versatile 118 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: as Detroits, that's as talented. I mean we're talking about 119 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: the best tackle, the best center, one of the best guards, 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean across the board, they're really good. What does 121 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: that allow Ben Jared this offense to do when you've 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: got an offensive line that's not. 123 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Only really skilled, but also versatile. 124 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: Matt, Yeah, I think I think the versatility is probably 125 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: in the athleticism of their offensive line is probably the 126 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: thing that you know jumps off the tape when you 127 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: watch them, and I think it allows Ben to be 128 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: multiple in how they attack you, right, whether it's the 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: screen game. You know, there's some unbelievable clips of Penne 130 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: Suill getting out in front right twenty five yards down 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: the field, you know, picking off dbs, and the athleticism 132 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: to be able to do that in space allows them. 133 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: I think they're a very good screen team. In the 134 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: run game, they're multiple, right, Like, so they're really good 135 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: in the zone scheme, they're good with the pinning polls, 136 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: they're good in the gap scheme, and I think it 137 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: allows you know Ben to kind of take a look 138 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: at his call sheet and feel comfortable calling anything. 139 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: Right. 140 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: It's not like, man, this is all we can do. 141 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to feature this, We're gonna have to 142 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: find different ways to do it. 143 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: You know, I think he's. 144 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: Comfortable whether it's pulling those guys up front, whether it's 145 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: getting into the zone schemes and allowing them to run 146 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: and capture. He does an excellent job of keeping things 147 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: multiple and really not allowing a defense to feel like 148 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: they're dialed into what you're doing. And ultimately, I think 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: that's his greatest strength. 150 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: You know, quarterbacks love those kind of security blanket players, right, 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: that really reliable slot receiver, that that tight end that 152 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: can make plays over the middle. Just when you have 153 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: a slot receiver like i'mon Ross Saint Brown and you 154 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: have a tight end like Sam Laporta. 155 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Just how much comfort does that give a quarterback? 156 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: That look, when things break down or when you need 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: a big play on third down, that that that that 158 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: middle of the field, those guys always find a way 159 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: to get open and make a play. Just what kind 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: of a security blanket is that for a quarterback? 161 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 5: Well? 162 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: I think it's huge. You know, particularly in the areas 163 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: that you mentioned third down and the red area. To me, 164 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, that's where matchups become probably the most important, 165 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: right is it's one on one, whether it's in zone 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: coverage in a space trying to beat that one on 167 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: one defender, or it's in man and man coverage. And 168 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: I think both those guys like you mentioned are are 169 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: kind of nightmare matchup their matchup nightmares for for defenders 170 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: because you know, typically you nickel corner or or your 171 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: backers or your safeties are are your worst guys in coverage, right, 172 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: your corners are going to be your best. And then 173 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: as you work your way inside or deep kind of 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: in the secondary, you know, the ability to cover in 175 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: small space and in one on ones just it's just 176 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: not as good, right. And so I've always felt like, 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: you know, third down in red zone was the area 178 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: where if you had a great slot and you had 179 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: a tight end that could play. I was lucky I 180 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: played with Tony Gonzalez. I played with guys like Harry 181 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Douglas and mohammedsanuw who were really good slot you know, 182 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: slot wide receivers they ate in those kind of situations, right, 183 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: They their production came from those kinds of situations, and 184 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: I think that's huge as a quarterback to be able 185 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: to have that and then also to have guys on 186 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: the outside too. It's one thing that if you got 187 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: these guys on the inside and they account for it, 188 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: but if you get one on ones on the outside too. 189 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: You talk about Jamison going over the top or some 190 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: of the stop routes and stuff he can do on 191 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: on the outside, it makes it really difficult and it 192 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: frees you up as a quarterback. 193 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: When do you look at this matchup? 194 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: What do you what do you think is the key 195 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: for both sides on Sunday to come away with a win? 196 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's boring, but it's about 197 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: winning up front, you know, And and as much as 198 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: the league has changed, that part of it really hasn't right. 199 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: And and I look at both of these teams as 200 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: as kind of having that down right of understanding that 201 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: this game is going to be won and loss, you know, 202 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: in the trenches. And so I think both of them, 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, do a really good job. But if if 204 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: you're looking at it from Detroit's standpoint, which I know 205 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: all the fans here are, I really think it comes 206 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: down to the defensive side of the ball, and it's 207 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: it's been hard, right, It's been tough sledding on that 208 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: side of the ball with injuries the entire year, right, 209 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: And and you know, everybody has this next man up mentality, 210 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: and nobody has done it better than Detroit. 211 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: But it becomes difficult. It really does. 212 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: When when you keep having injuries and you keep going 213 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,239 Speaker 2: deeper and deeper into the roster, it becomes difficult. 214 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: And I'm looking for them, I think, you. 215 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Know, if Detroit is going to be successful, I really 216 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: feel like defense has to step up. I expect the 217 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: offense to play well, right, They're going to steal some 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: of the stuff that La did well last week against 219 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: the Bills and go use it in their own way 220 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: and be aggressive. But I think the defense, if I'm 221 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: looking at it, you know, I'm looking at those guys 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: having to step up, and I think Aaron Glenn, I mean, 223 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: I can't say enough about the job that he's done 224 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball given all of 225 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: the issues that they've had, the injuries that they've had, 226 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, the ability to turn it on every week 227 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: and keep them in ball games has been awesome. 228 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And to your point, Levi own, Zerique, Josh Pascal, 229 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: DJ Reader. They hope they get all those guys back 230 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: this week, so that'll be huge against Josh Allen, trying 231 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: to keep him in the pocket win that battle up front. 232 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Like you talked about, Look, you've played in Detroit before. 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: You mentioned as a player looking forward to to to 234 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: seeing it as a fan as an analyst, when you 235 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: watch Detroit, when you've watched some of their home games, 236 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: has that environment, has that atmosphere, has that noise shown 237 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: through the screen? And how much are you looking forward 238 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: to getting into that building? 239 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Matt. 240 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: It's really become one of the toughest places to play 241 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: in this league because of what these fans have become, 242 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: because of what this team has become, and they've just 243 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: been dying for it for so long, and and they're 244 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: showing out and showing up and they're loud, and how 245 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: much are you looking forward to just the environment And 246 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: have you noticed it on TV? 247 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean it jumps off the screen. There's there's no 248 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: doubt about it. Right when you're watching games and you 249 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: see the passion and the energy and the just the 250 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: noise right coming from the stands, you feel that as 251 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: a fan watching it on TV, and it's it's awesome, 252 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: you know. I think for the city of Detroit, for 253 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: the fan base there, you guys have incredibly loyal fans, guys, 254 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: you know. 255 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: And men and women that have. 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Have been loyal to this organization for a long time 257 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: and are starving, you know, starving for some of what 258 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: they're seeing right now. And I think they're enjoying that 259 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: and they should, you know, because it's one of the 260 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: best football teams in the NFL right now. I think, 261 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, talent why there as good as anybody. I 262 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: think they're as well coached a football team as there 263 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: is in the league. And you mentioned it right that 264 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: the fans are doing their part too right making it 265 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: This is really difficult, and it's always been a tough place. 266 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you know, we played there a lot, 267 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: and it's always been a tough place to come play. 268 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like it's it's gone to 269 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: another level. And the noise inside that that dome is 270 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: is pretty impressive. 271 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing it. 272 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: How much would you have loved to play for Dan Campbell? 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: Just some of some of the aggressiveness you see the 274 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: interaction between him and Jared deciding to go forward on 275 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: fourth down. 276 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: There. 277 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: Jared talks about it all the time, just his love 278 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: for playing with him. Look, you had some terrific coaches 279 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: in your career too, some some some great guys. But 280 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: how much would you have loved to play for Dan Campbell? 281 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: I think anybody would love to and I certainly would. 282 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: You know, his aggressive mindset, right, his trust and his players. 283 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: I think as a player, that's the thing that that 284 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: jumps out to me, right, the belief that he has 285 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: in his guys, the love that he has for him, 286 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: but also you know, the ability to hold him to 287 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: account right is so important too, and I think he 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: navigates that entire space really really well. And oddly enough, 289 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: I believe this is true Dan was. I played against 290 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: Dan in my first game in the NFL. He was 291 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: a tight end with the Lions. So my first game 292 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: was against the Lions back in two thousand and eight, 293 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: and so pretty cool to come full circle see him 294 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: doing his thing as a guy that I played against. 295 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: All Right, last one for you, Matt. You obviously know 296 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 3: what it takes to get to a super Bowl. You've 297 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: been there, You've played in one. Does this Detroit Lions 298 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: team in your opinion just watching them all ye long, 299 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: did did they have the pieces to make a run 300 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: and be playing in that final game? 301 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: I absolutely believe they do. You know, I look around. 302 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: I think Jarrett and his experience prior to coming to Detroit, 303 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: right and having done that and knowing what it takes 304 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: right and being comfortable in those type of games is huge. 305 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: And then I think their run last year, right and 306 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: the disappointment, you know, I think that that is huge. 307 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: In my case. 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: You know, we went to the NFC Championship game in 309 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: twenty twelve and lost, right disappointing, much like much like 310 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: Detroit last year. It was against San Francisco, and I 311 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: know the hunger and the fire that that builds, and 312 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: remember having teammates that were both on those twenty twelve 313 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: teams and then the team that we were on in sixteen, 314 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: remembering those type of experiences. 315 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: So I think, you. 316 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: Know, given the way the roster's built, given their experience 317 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: running you know, deep into the playoffs last year, I 318 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: absolutely believe this team's prime to. 319 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: Make a run. 320 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's Week fifteen. The best matchup in the NFL 321 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: will be in Detroit Buffalo Bills versus Detroit Lions. 322 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan will be there. 323 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: Him and his crew will be breaking it all down 324 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: in Detroit on CBS beforehand, and he gets to enjoy 325 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: one as a fan in ford Field. 326 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: It'd be a good one. 327 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: Matt, thanks so much for joining you joining me. I 328 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time you got it. 329 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Can't wait to get there on Sunday, Welcome back to 330 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: the Twin. 331 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: In the Huddle podcasts and on this show. I always 332 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: like to feature guys who maybe don't get a ton 333 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: of the spot, but especially like I've had Jack Fox on, 334 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: I've had Khalil Dorsey on before. 335 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Some of these guys that make such. 336 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: An impact on teams, And how much do you love 337 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: this place, this atmosphere, this head coach that puts such 338 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: a value in what all you guys do on teams? 339 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 6: You know, I love it. I mean it's like there's 340 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 6: certain teams that take special teams for granted, and then 341 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 6: there's this team that doesn't take anything for granted. It's 342 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: like any play that you put on there, you don't 343 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 6: want to put on bad film. 344 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: How we play? 345 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 6: You know, how versatile people are in terms of like 346 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 6: switching around in the different positions and special teams and 347 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: then on defense and everything like that. It's it's just 348 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: amazing how. 349 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: Much tougher is that. 350 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: But I'm glad you mentioned the defense because you've played 351 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: a critical role there too, but always being ready and 352 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: having that kind of double duty mindset because you're one 353 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: snap away from being the start quarter on this team too. 354 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: But then you've got all this responsibility and special teams. 355 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: How much is on your plate week do week? How 356 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: much are you pulling defensive beatings to special teams to 357 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff? 358 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: And you do you love that? 359 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: Do you relish? 360 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 361 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I love it. I love the pressure. It 362 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 6: makes me who I am today. I was at a 363 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 6: point where, you know, there was no pressure put on me. 364 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: Now it's like, you know, all the all the pressures 365 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: put on you. But realistically, it's like, I just got 366 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 6: to do what I'm what I'm told, what I'm supposed 367 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 6: to do. It's a lot of film study, a lot 368 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 6: of film studies, special teams, defense, everything, but I make 369 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: it manageable. 370 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: One thing you're doing at an extremely high level, and 371 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: Dance talked about this. You are one of the best 372 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: gunners in the league. 373 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 374 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you are how much do you love playing 375 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: with Jack and how much does Jack make you a 376 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: better gunner? 377 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 6: I love playing with Jack. Gives me plenty of time, 378 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 6: you know, to get down the field with his hangtime 379 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 6: and then their their operation time. 380 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know, I love it. 381 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 6: I was like, if I were to go somewhere else, 382 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 6: I would want him to be exactly like him. Versatile 383 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: in terms of you know, he can kick it left, 384 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 6: kick it right, kick it down the middle. He can 385 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 6: boom it. You know, we seen him boom boom it 386 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 6: multiple times. And yeah, no, he makes it. He makes 387 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 6: my job a lot easier. 388 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: Also, kicker turn had a big one earlier the year. 389 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: How much did you want that one? 390 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: Oh? 391 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: My god, you won the last guy? 392 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy. It's crazy is that I was 393 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: talking to. 394 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 6: I think it was Jamier after because I think that 395 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 6: week he went like twenty one, I want to say, 396 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: or he was like high up in the twenties. 397 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: It's like slow. So what was that time for you? 398 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 6: I think it was like a twenty twenty point something. 399 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Jamo was twenty point four I think last week. 400 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: So last week. 401 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so what is the forty time for you? 402 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 6: For me, I mean I only had a hand time. 403 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: It was for three one. 404 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: But who's the fastest guy, Like if it was Jamo you, Yeah, 405 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: like it would be there, top three fastest on the 406 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: team because we will have to throw leaf in there too. 407 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it's it's it's. 408 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: All four of us. 409 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 6: Four are definitely I think all go crazy. 410 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: I think La had a few kickoff returns last week. 411 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: I look at Buffalo, they're in the top half of 412 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: the league in terms of allowing guys to turn. When 413 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: you see an opponent like that, how excited are you 414 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: that might you might get some opportunity. 415 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely excited. The scheme that's going in 416 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 6: and everything. Uh you know, got a little something for him. 417 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, you heard it here. 418 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: First, just the opponent, the magnitude of the game, national broadcast, 419 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: two of the best teams in their respective conferences. Just 420 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: how much are you guys looking forward to this game, 421 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: this matchup against this team at your place. 422 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: In that kind of environment. 423 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 6: We're definitely looking forward to it any any competition. I mean, 424 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 6: they were saying the same thing about Green Bay last week, 425 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 6: and you know, we're just excited for the next team, 426 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 6: So I mean, we're not focused on anything after. We're 427 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 6: focused on this week right now. 428 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's the right mindset to have go get 429 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: twelve in a row. One of the best gunners, one 430 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: of the best return man, one of the best special 431 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: teamers in the league. 432 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Collie Doors The appreciate you, hig you. 433 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and 434 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: I am very happy welcome. And Chris Brown, the play 435 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: by play man for the Buffalo Bills. Nobody knows Buffalo 436 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: football better than Chris. Chris, thanks for taking the time. 437 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 438 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: Sure good to be with you. 439 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: All right. 440 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: I usually start this way with all my guests from 441 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: from opposing cities. Here is injury wise, It's looked like 442 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: Detroit is going to get you know, a bunch of 443 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: guys back this week. They've been kind of decimated by injury. 444 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: Over the last couple of weeks. 445 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: How is Buffalo now midweek handle handling the injury situation? 446 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: What's it looking like for Sunday on their front? 447 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: Looking better on the offensive side of the ball right 448 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: now because guys that they've missed for the last month. 449 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: Dalton can Get and Keon Coleman are both practicing fully again. Finally, 450 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 5: they've missed those two players. The last time those two 451 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 5: guys played was in Week eight at Seattle, so it's 452 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 5: been a minute and Coleman had his best game as 453 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: a pro. He had one hundred and twenty five yards 454 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: and a touchdown and was making yards after the catch. 455 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 5: He's one of the league leaders in that area as 456 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: a matter of fact, and then all of a sudden 457 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 5: he's got a wrist injury and he's gone for four games. 458 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: Kincaid suffered a knee injury the next week, and we 459 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 5: haven't seen Hyde nor hair of him either. So getting 460 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: those two guys back in the offensive lineup will be great, 461 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: especially considering they scored forty two points without those two 462 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: last week. 463 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, just what Josh Allen needs is more weapons. Right 464 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: after that performance last week, just talk about that a 465 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: little bit, Chris, I. 466 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Mean, have you ever seen anything like that? 467 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're getting a pretty accustomed to 468 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: terrific performances from an MVP candidate like him, but to 469 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: throw for that many yards and three touchdowns and then 470 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: rush for three touchdowns and unfortunately you lose the game. 471 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: But just how good is he playing right now? 472 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean all the talk all season long has 473 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 5: been how he has played more within the structure of 474 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: the offense, which has been a more balanced attack this 475 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: year with the exploits of James Cook, which go largely 476 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: unnoticed because Josh is such a huge figure in the 477 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: league that he kind of blocks out the sun with 478 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 5: everything else that goes on here in Buffalo, and James 479 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 5: Cook very quietly had almost sixteen hundred all purpose yards 480 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 5: last year and nobody knew about it because of what 481 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 5: Josh does every week. And this year he's almost as productive. 482 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he's got eleven rushing touchdowns. I think he's 483 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: got thirteen total on the season, and you don't hear 484 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 5: anything about it because of what Josh does, especially last week, 485 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 5: which I think only Otto Graham did in a nineteen 486 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: fifty four championship game, going for a hat trick with 487 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns and passing touchdowns in the same game. 488 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: The biggest shame of. 489 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 5: It is they lost the dang game. But Josh for 490 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: the most part is not putting the cape on as 491 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 5: much as he has in previous years, and I think 492 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: it's because Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator, has done an 493 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 5: excellent job of convincing him that all he needs to 494 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 5: be is a point guard and a facilitator. And if 495 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: there are three or four plays where you have to 496 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: do something amazing in a game, great. In previous years 497 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: it was more like ten or twelve. And I think 498 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: they they like the fact that he's asked to do 499 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: less in this year's version of the offense because it's 500 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: less wear and tear on him. 501 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's less turnovers too, And that's something that 502 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: Dan Campbell talked about this week. He talked about, you know, 503 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: when asked about Alan is how patient he is and 504 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: noticing that. I mean, you look at the past four 505 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: years double digit interceptions. I think he's only got five, 506 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, you know, this season. But 507 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: that's something that that you know, people outside of Buffalo 508 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: have taken notice too. 509 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: And when you can play that well and. 510 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: Limit those turnovers, that's been huge for this football team, 511 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: hasn't it. 512 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 513 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: And once again it comes back to playing within the 514 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: structure of the offense, which Bradish should get credit for. 515 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 5: He's probably the first coordinator that's convinced Josh to do 516 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: more of that. I think there's also been a concerted 517 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: effort on Josh's part, you know, going into the offseason 518 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 5: and coming into this season, was to reduce the turnovers. 519 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 5: I think just in reviewing all the film from last year, 520 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: he realized how costly those were. But I think one 521 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 5: of his biggest sticking points in his development has been 522 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: leaving the pocket too early when in many cases it 523 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: wasn't necessary. And I think he's done. 524 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: A better job of that too. 525 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 5: More patients in the pocket to Dan Campbell's point, and yes, 526 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: he will still make plays off script, but not nearly 527 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 5: as much as he has in the past because I 528 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 5: think he's hanging in there that extra half second and 529 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: letting the progressions of the play unfold to give him 530 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 5: options to throw the football. 531 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: And now he's got two more options. As we talked 532 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: about earlier. That'll be important this week. How were was 533 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: the forty two points and you still lose a football game? 534 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Look that happens their third loss. But is there any 535 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: lingering worry about the defense, especially heading indoors on a 536 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: fast track this week against the Detroit Lions team that's 537 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: number one in the NFL in scoring. 538 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're going to chalk it up to 539 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 5: bad day at the office. I think Sean McDermott was 540 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 5: pretty honest in his assessment, basically saying they didn't come 541 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: with the sense of urgency that you needed to against 542 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 5: a team that's quite literally fighting for their playoff lives 543 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: in the RAMS. They didn't match that intensity. They didn't 544 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: match that urgency. And this league is too close, even 545 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: from the best team to the worst team in the 546 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 5: league to play like that and expect to win a 547 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: football game. So that's on them, and they don't make 548 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 5: any bones about it. They know they just flat out 549 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: we're not good enough. I think they have to do 550 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: a better job of getting back on task in marrying 551 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: the rush with their coverage because it was a complete 552 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: disconnect last week and a lot of the guys on 553 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: the back end got hung up out to dry. Now, 554 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: all that being said, Nikua and Cup in that game, 555 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: between the two of them made six unbelievable plays in 556 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 5: tight coverage, and that's where you just kind of tip 557 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: your hat and be like, you know, that's good on 558 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: good and you were better on that play. And those 559 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: two guys did that a half dozen times in that game, 560 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 5: But there were also instances where you had guys running 561 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: wide open making plays and you don't usually see that 562 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: from a Bill's defense. So I think they're going to 563 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 5: make their necessary corrections. And I think because they were 564 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: a little embarrassed last week giving up the most points 565 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 5: they have, I think in a couple of seasons that 566 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: they're going to be out to reestablish pride in themselves 567 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: because they got embarrassed last week, and I think they 568 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 5: want to prove that's not. 569 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: Us, all right, Who's one player Detroit Lions fans might 570 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: not know? 571 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Obviously? 572 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: Interconference matchup here two teams that aren't familiar, even though 573 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: pretty close play in the preseason. But who's maybe somebody 574 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: that that Lions fans don't know who could make an 575 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: impact in that game? 576 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I would say on the offensive side 577 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: of the ball, Coleman coming back to the lineup is intriguing. 578 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: Not a lot has been said about him because, like 579 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: I said, he's missed the last month of the season. 580 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 5: He was just starting to take control of football games 581 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: in his last two games on the field and then 582 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: it's a shame like his progress got completely interrupted by 583 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: the injury. What does he look like his first game back, 584 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a good question. I think he's gonna 585 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: have to really knock some rust off, maybe through the 586 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: first couple of quarters. But that kid's an unbelievable physical talent. 587 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 5: He's an above the rim player. He's got a thirty 588 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 5: eight inch vertical and he's six y three. I mean, 589 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 5: the guy was mister basketball in the state of Louisiana 590 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: in high school and played college hoops at Michigan State, 591 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 5: which you guys probably remember before he transferred to Florida 592 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 5: State playing for Tom Izzo. That's not nothing. He plays 593 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 5: like a basketball player. He is an athletic body type 594 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 5: like a basketball player should be. And so you know, 595 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 5: I think he can out leave just about any corner 596 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: out there in the league, and he's open when he's 597 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: not open. So I'm very curious to see how they 598 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: incorporate him back into the offense. That would be probably 599 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: the first guy I would pick on the offensive side 600 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 5: of the ball defensive side of the ball. It's Christian Benford, 601 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 5: sixth round draft choice out of Villanova. He's in his 602 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 5: third season and he is their number one lockdown corner 603 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: and I think opponent passer rating against him is something ridiculous. 604 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 4: It's like under fifty. 605 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: He just really Quarterbacks don't even throw his way anymore 606 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: because guys are rarely open. Last week there were a 607 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: couple of plays made against him in zone coverage, but 608 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 5: he is phenomenal whether it's man or zone. And I 609 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: think he's still a guy that is not on a 610 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: lot of people's radar in this league. But he has 611 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: been top ten corner worthy this season. 612 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: All right, Chris, And in your opinion, how does Buffalo 613 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: go on the road against a good team and come 614 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: away with a victory at forfield? What's the biggest key 615 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: in your opinion. 616 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think you have a chance against Detroit 617 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 5: unless you match their physicality at the line of scrimmage. 618 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 5: So that's job one on both sides of the ball. 619 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 5: And then I think the second part is gonna have 620 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 5: to be time of possession. I think they have to 621 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: be better than the Lions in that area because if 622 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 5: you give the Lions time with the ball, that's a problem. 623 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 5: They'll just wear you down. So I think getting off 624 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: the field quick on defense and long sustained drives on 625 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 5: offense could be a good recipe to try to pull 626 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 5: off an upset in Detroit. 627 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: It should be a really fun game, Chris. I mean, 628 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: two of the best in their conference. I think it's 629 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: the game of the week nationally televised. It's crunch time 630 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: right the last month of the season, of the regular season, 631 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: and everybody's jockeying for that playoff position. 632 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a. 633 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: Crazy atmosphere there and a really good matchup against two 634 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: really good teams. Chris Brown, the play by play man 635 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: for the Buffalo Bill. Thank you for joining me so much. 636 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Safe travels over here, and I'll make sure 637 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: I stop buying Salo. 638 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Good to be with you. 639 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 5: Thanks Jimm