Speaker 1: Oh, Wallian Doctor.
Speaker 2: Twelve years ago, Nicki Minaj dropped the Anaconda video twelve.
Speaker 1: That was twelve years ago. Yeah, twelve years ago, yesterday.
Speaker 1: We're getting old.
Speaker 2: Not only were getting old, but do you remember that video? Yes,
Speaker 2: one of the most iconic videos. Yes, ever, you want
Speaker 2: to know what's so crazy? I'm watching this ship now
Speaker 2: because you know they're posting it because of the anniversary.
Speaker 2: This is so regular now, Oh yeah, that's like, this
Speaker 2: is scrolling on your Instagram, Instagram, no matter who you follow,
Speaker 2: like just real quick. That's like, this was the most iconic.
Speaker 2: That's a dump, like we can That's an Instagram dump.
Speaker 2: That's all that is. That was last weekend. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the weekend in Mexico. That's a dump. And
Speaker 2: when I say regular, barbes relax, I don't want to
Speaker 2: trigger you. I'm saying that video was iconic. We had
Speaker 2: never seen anything like that. Now seeing ass is so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this was like poorn when it came out. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was definitely. It definitely shook the funny you saying twelve
Speaker 2: year damn when it dropped. Yeah, Like I remembered the
Speaker 2: frenzy it caused when it dropped. The trailer of the
Speaker 2: day before, because we had never seen like, of course
Speaker 2: as existed on a low hope know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like even you know, there was still ig mile, there
Speaker 2: was still over sexualized on social media, but we had
Speaker 2: never seen like an A lister.
Speaker 1: But that was like, wait, you see nig and not
Speaker 1: just whole ass on this ship. Yeah that was crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now it's like you can't and I don't mean this
Speaker 2: disrespectfully to the women out there. Now, it's like seeing
Speaker 2: that's just that's just a lot of video.
Speaker 1: Yeah nothing. If she had pants on it be like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's a strange video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's shifting the culture putting on pants to shifting
Speaker 2: the culture that she must have a Levi's at Yeah,
Speaker 2: she better, she's aiming for one for sure. It was
Speaker 2: just fine, there's I have no like thing attached to this,
Speaker 2: like society's going.
Speaker 1: It's just funny looking at that.
Speaker 2: And if he went she took up twelve years ago,
Speaker 2: how crazy that was to see? Yeah, now this would
Speaker 2: be like a normal Instagram Now. Yeah, where do you
Speaker 2: think it's going to go from here? Because the only
Speaker 2: next step is just fucking like you're gonna see a
Speaker 2: female rapper get fucked on camera while she's rapping her verse.
Speaker 1: I think somebody he's nasty. That'd be fire.
Speaker 2: What does it say about the guy if she's able
Speaker 2: to get through her verse while he's having six Like
Speaker 2: he doesn't feel a way about that, Like well, maybe
Speaker 2: act like if she one takes it, Like what if
Speaker 2: she one takes it? If she one takes it, like
Speaker 2: if she one takes the verse while she's having sex
Speaker 2: with you on camera, Like that's as a man, you
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 1: That with bruise. It would bruise my eg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the casted as the male vic Sen,
Speaker 2: so she had no problem. And imagine if she was
Speaker 2: like double time on the verse and did add like
Speaker 2: if she did ask, if she did her own ad libs,
Speaker 2: like yeah, nah, man, as a man, you gotta feel some.
Speaker 1: Type of way for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be trying to lift her legs up just
Speaker 2: so I get that not even working.
Speaker 1: It's not even working, not even working. I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: Though. Visually though, like I think I think it has
Speaker 2: to get we joking and you know, just having fun.
Speaker 2: But I do think it has to get maybe a
Speaker 2: little more artistic though from here, I mean like sexuality
Speaker 2: has been part of pop music as exception as it
Speaker 2: should be. I'm not saying good away with the clothes,
Speaker 2: no pun intended. I'm not saying to get to do
Speaker 2: away with it. I'm just saying, like Beyonce has been
Speaker 2: in a throng. Yeah, I'm saying, uh, like the Lotto
Speaker 2: Dojah Cat video. Love that right, great video, great record,
Speaker 2: but there was there was some artistry in that though
Speaker 2: as well. Get what I'm saying, Like, so you know,
Speaker 2: we women can be be sexy. We love that, like
Speaker 2: be sexy, be women, be feminine, but don't don't just
Speaker 2: do away with the art trying to be so provocative, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it can't go that way, but Dose is great at that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in general, like all our videos, she'll you know, show
Speaker 2: some side boom and ass, but she has great visuals.
Speaker 2: I'm saying for the like the Ratchet Girls, where there
Speaker 2: is no artistic taste to this, but just not sexuality.
Speaker 2: I feel like the next thing they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: do to compete is like sign up for my only fans.
Speaker 2: I'm getting fucked while I wrap my verse, and I
Speaker 2: think it'll work in one take, no edit. It's the
Speaker 2: it's the good. Yeah, one take, one take, that's it,
Speaker 2: in and out, got this done.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up.
Speaker 2: I mean for the amount of artists that rap and
Speaker 2: also do only fans, I'm kind of shocked that that's
Speaker 2: not those two things having like what we're seeing something
Speaker 2: like what was the video with the guy he had
Speaker 2: somebody behind him having sex in the van? Remember like
Speaker 2: the truck he opened up the truck and it was
Speaker 2: somebody in the truck having sex.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those it was one of
Speaker 2: those uh you know how they put the mic on
Speaker 2: the corner. It was like it was like one of
Speaker 2: those type of vibes. But I think he was in
Speaker 2: the street and he opened like a moving truck. It
Speaker 2: was like a moving truck, and they were like it
Speaker 2: was a couple in there having sex.
Speaker 1: It's a wild place to fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember when I saw that, I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: so this is where we are. We're going all the
Speaker 2: way like you know what never took that I thought
Speaker 2: was going to And Hunter Biden's kind of doing it
Speaker 2: now with.
Speaker 1: All these interviews Hunter Biden, Okay, let me land this transition.
Speaker 2: Remember that guy, I think he was running for mayor
Speaker 2: or town count nothing like super crazy. But remember he
Speaker 2: was fucking someone on camera. We talked about it on
Speaker 2: the pod years ago.
Speaker 1: He was a.
Speaker 2: Politician running and something Peter maybe, and I think he
Speaker 2: was like he was standing on making prostitution legal, like
Speaker 2: and he leaked his own sex tape. No, it's not
Speaker 2: people just shout out the front of the show Wiener
Speaker 2: something Wiener, No, Anthony Wiener. That was not by consent.
Speaker 2: Somebody had Oh this was this was somebody that was
Speaker 2: on the Senate, like on the floor. No, he was
Speaker 2: running for some No, that was when that that little
Speaker 2: twink was getting fucked u where our laws are made okay,
Speaker 2: separate completely. It was someone running for some type of
Speaker 2: political office and he leaked his own sex tape as
Speaker 2: a political campaign, like this is the guy you're getting
Speaker 2: and like he was pounding some hike out in a
Speaker 2: hotel and he's like.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make prostitution legal. He was really running for real.
Speaker 1: I do not remember that. It was years and years ago,
Speaker 1: but we talked about it.
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to swing things where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: these politicians they're all fucking horse, so they might as well.
Speaker 1: Just tell us I thought that was gonna happen. But no,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a trailblazer.
Speaker 2: A little president trit and they took him the court
Speaker 2: for it. So you know where are we getting these
Speaker 2: mosquitoes from? Is that the same mosquito that's been in
Speaker 2: here since like Monday? Probably Jesus, he didn't die yet
Speaker 2: and we got rid of all those plants.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's the windows because now we have so many people
Speaker 2: in here that smoke. No, it was what Mikes.
Speaker 1: I do remember that name. Sounds like a middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: I do remember that name. What was he running for
Speaker 1: piece Manhattan District? Okay, I remember that name.
Speaker 2: It is No, he had a straight up sex tape
Speaker 2: as his political campaign.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta get creative role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, it's not just politically. J Cole gets
Speaker 2: in the car, goes up the East Coast politician focks
Speaker 2: prostitute like they're the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's a different type of rollout.
Speaker 2: I saw that guy that was walking from Philly to
Speaker 2: La or California finally made.
Speaker 1: It so about the guy looks like me, No, not.
Speaker 2: The white guy he's that was years ago, hopefully he's
Speaker 2: made it already. Mike Posner like, yeah, posneros shout out
Speaker 2: to Mike, posting stouts to Mike Posler. No, it's another guy.
Speaker 2: I forgot his nametti. This This dude got.
Speaker 1: Hit by a car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was a lot. And I
Speaker 2: saw the other day that he just he made it
Speaker 2: to California. I believe he walked from Philadelphia California.
Speaker 1: Where'd he get hit? Like wearing his body? Well, like
Speaker 1: what state? Oh, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not like coping Cali. It wasn't like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no he got hit like in Pennsylvania and stuff. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: he got hit way before he got the California. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he got hit by a car. I just think that
Speaker 2: that's And then I looked at the video. The video
Speaker 2: I saw had like thirty six thousand views. Now I
Speaker 2: was like if I walked from Philadelphia to California and
Speaker 2: a video only has thirty six thousand views, like I
Speaker 2: would feel like, all right, should I have been fucking
Speaker 2: from Philadelphia California?
Speaker 1: Like on stream? Like what else can you do?
Speaker 2: I'm walking clear across the country and only thirty six
Speaker 2: thousand people saw this? This is gonna sound pessimistic, and
Speaker 2: I'm still here for creativity. I want to make my
Speaker 2: stance clear there, but not bullshit works way easier. Well,
Speaker 2: I put so much money into my video with Black
Speaker 2: Odyssey and Lucky Day.
Speaker 1: Went to La shot it loved the video.
Speaker 2: It's credit did well, don't get it wrong. You know
Speaker 2: it has more views on Instagram already. My parody Come
Speaker 2: get Ready with Me to the Jake Whole concert.
Speaker 1: You know how long that took me? You know, quickly
Speaker 1: peech edited that ship together?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did that voice over in about five minutes. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't cost us anything. You don't. I didn't even
Speaker 1: pay for parking. Yeah, no, you don't. I'm street parking.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did more. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Different reasons for those types of content, yeah, push, But
Speaker 2: to your point, like, damn, I walked across the country
Speaker 2: and got thirty six thousand views.
Speaker 1: Why did I do that? Yeah, if you want to
Speaker 1: do it for reviews, it was a streaming video, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's for streaming thirty six for the whole way. No,
Speaker 1: just whatever video I saw.
Speaker 2: First off, I'm not shitting on thirty six thousand views
Speaker 2: is great, no matter what. I don't make it sound
Speaker 2: that way. I'm just saying the task of doing that
Speaker 2: it probably took him a couple of months. Yeah, for sure, Yes,
Speaker 2: I would like more than thirty six thousand streams. For Yeah,
Speaker 2: just like more people should have known and been watching that.
Speaker 2: That's something that's not an easy thing to complish. And
Speaker 2: some things are for your own internal peace and this
Speaker 2: and that, and who cares about views? I hear all that,
Speaker 2: but you are streaming it, so let's not act like
Speaker 2: you didn't peep at the data just for a second. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if I saw what Forrest Gump did, he fucking invented
Speaker 2: the smiley face, got a Nike.
Speaker 1: Deal, Like, yeah, he did a lot of what's the
Speaker 1: bumper sticker? He invented too?
Speaker 2: During that run, shit happens, like, come on, thirty six
Speaker 2: thousand people. He got Jenny back because of that shit,
Speaker 2: because everybody was watching. She was at the diner, Like
Speaker 2: we interrupted this program to show you this guy going
Speaker 2: across the country. I just don't know about walking across
Speaker 2: the country. That's a little I mean, we kept up
Speaker 2: with the Mike Poser one. There's just such a high
Speaker 2: chance of something going.
Speaker 1: Wrong when you're walking across the country. Definitely mean you
Speaker 1: get hit by a car. Mike Posner got bit by
Speaker 1: a rattlesnake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, how how does that happen? How do
Speaker 2: you get bit by? Like you don't see the snake?
Speaker 1: You're an idiot and walk through Arizona.
Speaker 2: That's what you said, But you will still see a
Speaker 2: snake though, No, No, I feel like this.
Speaker 1: You see a snake if I'm walking in but he's
Speaker 1: walking on the side.
Speaker 3: Of the road.
Speaker 1: He's not walking like in the desert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, have you ever driven through like
Speaker 2: Nevada or yeah, Arizona, you're in the desert in certain
Speaker 2: places if you're walking like right on the side, you
Speaker 2: have sunglasses on, it's super bright, you got your hat on.
Speaker 2: You don't think a tan snake couldn't hide in dirt?
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess you're right.
Speaker 2: I just like that's something I can't fat. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: even know what. How do you prepare for that? You don't, like,
Speaker 2: what's your first stay?
Speaker 1: Like that was? I definitely just got bit by a snake?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like what do you do right after that?
Speaker 2: If you're in the middle of the desert, how long would
Speaker 2: it take, like the EMS to get to you. At
Speaker 2: least thirty minutes. Yeah, and then I'd start thinking all
Speaker 2: the shit I've seen on National Geographic, like have five
Speaker 2: minutes to live. I have no survival skills in this moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, some people have zero's survival skills. I just
Speaker 2: saw a video. I don't know if it's fake or not,
Speaker 2: but uh, there was like a shootout in this suburban
Speaker 2: neighborhood and the mom ran right in the house and
Speaker 2: was like, kids come in. The parents just left their
Speaker 2: children out front, and then one of the kids ran
Speaker 2: towards the shots.
Speaker 1: He should join the Marines. Like I saw that kid.
Speaker 1: I was like, that kid is going to keep us safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people have zero survivor Like I just look
Speaker 2: at some videos sometimes and I'm just like, I see
Speaker 2: how people end up dying over like dumb shit.
Speaker 1: I see it. Well, there's different.
Speaker 2: I have survival skills here, but you you put me
Speaker 2: out in the woods, I wouldn't have y Oh. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't know how to. I don't even The most I
Speaker 2: could do is start a fire.
Speaker 1: I could do that.
Speaker 2: I could do it, but it would take me a while, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, don't think it would be some you know,
Speaker 2: then it won't be ready in an hour, Like I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do that, but I can definitely STARTIFI. Other
Speaker 2: than that, I don't know how to build a tent.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to tie ropes and notts to
Speaker 2: make it, like, I don't know how to do none
Speaker 2: of that. I'm immediately gonna eat the poison berry that
Speaker 2: like shuts your stomach down.
Speaker 1: One eating a deadly mushroom.
Speaker 2: And like I feel like I could kill an animal eventually,
Speaker 2: but then I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like animal with your bare hands, with like a rifle,
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't if I'm out in the woods, I'd imagine
Speaker 1: like it was a plane crash or just like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a gun. Yeah, so I'm not just walking
Speaker 1: through the woods abandoned.
Speaker 2: With what the animal would you kill? I don't know,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't kill nothing, Rory, not killing shit. I'm not
Speaker 2: catching a rabbit, no, definitely not Yeah, catching animals? Not
Speaker 2: catching a bird, he don't know, not catching a squirrel.
Speaker 2: If you see a bear, you're running, You're launch at
Speaker 2: that point, Like what what animal are you killing with
Speaker 2: your been hand. No, I haven't thought you would have to.
Speaker 2: You would have to literally like just get some type
Speaker 2: of netting or something and just try to fish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is the only thing you're catching is a fish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think I could sneak up on a deal.
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to think if I something deer like
Speaker 2: made no, not choke it out, No, you got get finish.
Speaker 2: You put a deer in the headline and put your
Speaker 2: fingers in his nostrils, like you know me, you know
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like if somehow I figured out like how
Speaker 2: to find a stick in the perfect rock and made
Speaker 2: some type of weapon like where I could hit its head,
Speaker 2: I still don't think I'd be able to sneak up.
Speaker 1: On them sneaking up not fucking did bro stand from
Speaker 1: behind hind legs straight to my.
Speaker 2: Thro You're not sneaking up on no dead The best
Speaker 2: your best bet for dinner if you're stranding it in
Speaker 2: the forest, in the wilderness, both of us, our best
Speaker 2: bet is to try to make some type of netting
Speaker 2: something or or something to fish. But what I was
Speaker 2: actual to say, let's say I even figure out how
Speaker 2: to kill an animal I don't know how to fillet it.
Speaker 2: I don't fucking now now I'm just a murder. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what to do with this dead body. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have survival skills, zero idea. I have survival skills
Speaker 2: in the city. I don't have survival skills.
Speaker 1: In the woods. No, No, I would have no idea
Speaker 1: what to do. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: And it's it's fucked up because we're surrounded by so much,
Speaker 2: so much forest, and you know, but it's.
Speaker 1: Just like I would not know what to do.
Speaker 2: I think about that often, like I don't know how
Speaker 2: to create a tent, Like I'm not to pitch a tent.
Speaker 2: Even if you give me a tent right now with
Speaker 2: the destructions.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to do it. I could do that,
Speaker 1: at least I don't know. I couldn't do that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but they're they're not preparing us for
Speaker 2: the end of the world, which is probably purposeful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like that's why I brought up to you and DeMars.
Speaker 2: I forgot like a year ago about the Will Smith movie.
Speaker 1: What is it? I am legend?
Speaker 2: I am legend, Yes, Like there'd be no movie if
Speaker 2: I was Smith, Like just bite me.
Speaker 1: I'm joining y'all. Really, but he had. I mean it
Speaker 1: was he was going to grocery store.
Speaker 2: He was in the city and could find certain ship.
Speaker 2: But I'd get tired at some point, like just I'll
Speaker 2: just join y'all. Y'all, y'all are surviving way better. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna keep doing this. They got my dog, like,
Speaker 2: come on, zombie me, let's do this, zombie me, Let's
Speaker 2: let's do it. I'm a zombie, Like, that's that's the
Speaker 2: race now, is the zombies. I'm on that side. Did
Speaker 2: you ever have to read the movie, not the movie,
Speaker 2: the book Hatchet. No, I don't know if that was
Speaker 2: your era of required. No, it probably was, and I
Speaker 2: still didn't read it. The kid got I think it
Speaker 2: was like a plane crash and was out in the
Speaker 2: woods and only had a hatchet with him and survived.
Speaker 2: It was only a nonfiction book could exist that way.
Speaker 2: And then the hatchet too.
Speaker 1: He got rescued, but couldn't deal with society anymore and
Speaker 1: went back out to live with adjustment. Yeah, like that
Speaker 1: is just stupid to me.
Speaker 2: Tom had Even if you give me the fucking skate,
Speaker 2: I'm not making castaway. No, we talked about that one
Speaker 2: screen sunscreen alone I need. Yeah, like that, that's that
Speaker 2: video speaking of that, you spraying sunscreen on yourselff like
Speaker 2: that was so fucking funny. I'm like, yo, well why
Speaker 2: not just put some SPF, some moisturizer and then we
Speaker 2: were going to the Barclays.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even like we.
Speaker 2: Was going, but that was the joke. Put it on
Speaker 2: sunscreen to go to an indoor event. But you never
Speaker 2: know what the lights, Yeah, they can affect your skin. No,
Speaker 2: I actually have great sunscreen that I put on my face.
Speaker 2: But yes, I was doing it and people seeming.
Speaker 1: To enjoy that that video, it was pretty funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the next one, doing an influencer
Speaker 2: get ready with me for a electronica session.
Speaker 1: Oh God, Jesus Christ, good luck, good luck with that one.
Speaker 2: What's the things that like the police officers wear for
Speaker 2: the dogs, like when they're training the dogs to bite,
Speaker 2: it's whatever.
Speaker 1: Those flock but it's like a it's it's a suit.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about buying that suit for the for
Speaker 2: the two great dans, like you gotta to walk in
Speaker 2: the studio, Yeah, but not the dogs was cool though,
Speaker 2: they're cool to you, and they're cool to me. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: because we've known them since puppies. Okay, you know I've
Speaker 2: had hospital visits. Really, those dogs will fuck you up.
Speaker 2: I mean they're great dangs, They're big dogs. But I
Speaker 2: didn't know they they bit Somebodey before allegedly allegedly, Okay,
Speaker 2: multiple people, allegedly, multiple victims are walking around after a
Speaker 2: j Electronics session. Speaking of JA Electronica, we did get
Speaker 2: a jay Z verse today, which when I woke up, I, yes,
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 1: Was AI. I thought it was A too. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie.
Speaker 2: When I first heard it, I thought it was AI.
Speaker 2: It sounded like a bunch of JA in fluctuations and
Speaker 2: things pieced together, and we know that's what AI just
Speaker 2: pulls from songs that already exist from the artist.
Speaker 1: But yeah, did I thought it was A as well.
Speaker 2: And it was posted on an a Twitter page that
Speaker 2: like hosts real ship but sometimes doesn't, So I again,
Speaker 2: I just thought it was some AI shit. But then
Speaker 2: like an hour later it was fully on Beyonce's YouTube page.
Speaker 2: So it's the Morning Doe remix featuring jay Z. I
Speaker 2: was really hoping it was you wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I like the remix version, like version of the production.
Speaker 2: It actually felt kind of like how Hove did his
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium shows with the band, Like it's a bunch
Speaker 2: of different records. We know, it's a great mashup, Like
Speaker 2: it's a really cool remix mashup that like a DJ
Speaker 2: would do. So I loved that version of it with
Speaker 2: the Sheech West shit Iley Brothers. I think there was
Speaker 2: a few big pivot sounds in there as well. Like,
Speaker 2: I just thought the mashup was really cool for the
Speaker 2: remix for Beyonce.
Speaker 3: A right.
Speaker 1: Maybe this goes back to the conversation.
Speaker 2: We were having, well, I was having with Demeris about
Speaker 2: j Cole in the Pilot's record planes.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, there's just some drunken love was my limit
Speaker 1: love drunk and Love hate record iconic record. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: some rappers. I just I don't really want to hear
Speaker 1: about they dig Gang. That's all. Was that in his
Speaker 1: version he got it. I don't think he got into
Speaker 1: that in his verse though.
Speaker 2: Well, the first four bars are a fire flip of
Speaker 2: you know how last night went, Let's see what the
Speaker 2: morning do?
Speaker 1: Sloppy like morning Do. I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it's great that Mary Mary people should talk about that.
Speaker 1: I just you don't want to hear it. I feel you,
Speaker 1: I feel you. But I'm not hating on the record again.
Speaker 1: Love the production.
Speaker 2: And if this means Hove is in the place where
Speaker 2: he's just gonna start dropping Lucy's or he's comfortable rapping
Speaker 2: again and putting music out, let's go.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, let's go. When Bleak was here,
Speaker 1: we both agreed, I don't. I don't want a new
Speaker 1: j album though, Well, I disagree with either if he
Speaker 1: has something to say on here, I'm not an album though. Well,
Speaker 1: what'd you think of the verse then?
Speaker 2: Because I thought the flat this check West part like,
Speaker 2: I like, I like that. I don't know, just it
Speaker 2: took a few listens want to realize it wasn't Ai again.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Maybe that's how our ears are
Speaker 2: now wired. It felt like on because of the mashup. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it just felt like somebody kind of just put that together.
Speaker 1: So I had to get that out of my brains.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a real Hoe verse and yeah, it
Speaker 2: was just introduced weird to me, And maybe that's the
Speaker 2: thing we have to get used to now with some
Speaker 2: of our favorite artists. AI records are gonna be I'm
Speaker 2: sorry not AI records are going to be introduced to
Speaker 2: us and we're gonna think they're AI. It didn't really
Speaker 2: even sound like a whole flow to me.
Speaker 1: It just I mean, it felt like a song that
Speaker 1: we already got from J and B. Like it felt like,
Speaker 1: like you said, like was that drunk of love? Do say?
Speaker 1: Is this ship?
Speaker 2: It kind of felt like that a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially with the quarter fuck Nigga Hate No Mob and
Speaker 2: Nigga Hate No Mob. I mean to Page's point, I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna love that record. That's gonna be the
Speaker 2: part of the record that. Yeah, that's people definitely love
Speaker 2: when it's you know, in the clubs, they're gonna play
Speaker 2: that a lot.
Speaker 1: I also like that I only hate on us on
Speaker 1: the internet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again addressing things that are out there. When I
Speaker 2: say I when Blical said is saying that I didn't
Speaker 2: want to Jay album, meaning that I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: Because again I feel like if Jay puts an album
Speaker 2: out now, one I don't know because everybody attaches, you know,
Speaker 2: success to how well did it stream, where did it chart?
Speaker 1: How long did it stay there?
Speaker 2: This, that, and the third, Like, I just think that
Speaker 2: there are more people waiting to kind of like take
Speaker 2: away from Jay's legacy then to add.
Speaker 1: To Jay's legacy at this point, but I just don't
Speaker 1: even care, Like I have no idea what four forty
Speaker 1: four did in its first I don't. I don't stand.
Speaker 2: But now today, more than ever, everybody is so fixated
Speaker 2: on that aspect of things and not the music, not
Speaker 2: how well does it sound, how well does it you know,
Speaker 2: like live and things like that.
Speaker 1: Jay doesn't have to think about that. No, not, he's
Speaker 1: not thinking about it.
Speaker 2: But that's why I would like an album from him,
Speaker 2: because he who cares and I don't think he gives
Speaker 2: a fuck. No, I know he didn't care about that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, just the the void the opinion of
Speaker 2: the public. It's like it's almost like they're waiting to say,
Speaker 2: you know, father Tom caught up with you finally, like
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 1: This is trash.
Speaker 2: Like people are almost waiting for that moment, you get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like that's what it feels like, Whereas
Speaker 2: now it's like, okay, thirty years reasonable doubt, Blueprint twenty
Speaker 2: five years, you give him those moments, sold out three
Speaker 2: nights at Yankee Stadium. Like, to me, it's like boom
Speaker 2: let that stadium. Now, you introduce a new body of
Speaker 2: music if it things for people to kind of say, oh,
Speaker 2: he's again the nitpicking here. He sounds old, he sounds outdated.
Speaker 2: He doesn't you know what I'm saying. Nobody wants to
Speaker 2: hit the same old flow. We heard this type of
Speaker 2: song already, Da da da da dah. Like I just
Speaker 2: feel like there's more people like that waiting to have
Speaker 2: those opinions than to say, damn, still sounds great. This
Speaker 2: is a different sound for Jay Love that he tried
Speaker 2: this Da da da da. To me, that's what.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning more towards. I just don't. I just feel
Speaker 1: like there's way too many people.
Speaker 2: Waiting to have that moment to judge and say, yo,
Speaker 2: there's no you know, he's too old for this genre now,
Speaker 2: like he's officially outdated. Like that's how I feel, And
Speaker 2: I just don't want to have to sit and sit
Speaker 2: through that and see that. But I think that's still
Speaker 2: that niche part of the Internet that we were talking
Speaker 2: about that was hating on the Yankee Stadium shit, and
Speaker 2: then you saw how many people were at the Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: Shit. I do think that's a small no, no, no.
Speaker 2: For sure, it's heightened in one place, which is the timeline,
Speaker 2: But that is a small group of people when you
Speaker 2: get in the scope of things, when it comes to
Speaker 2: the amount of people that are actually listen. So but
Speaker 2: even coming off to this verse, no matter what, okay,
Speaker 2: this verse. Objectively, if somebody was like, I don't like this,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't argue with them, right, But there's also the side.
Speaker 2: Let's say Hove put out his twenty twenty six version
Speaker 2: of Blueprint, and by that I mean an undeniable classic,
Speaker 2: not that sounds like Blueprint, but like, oh this is
Speaker 2: this is not right. Those same people are still waiting
Speaker 2: for the same thing, and they're gonna do the same
Speaker 2: thing and hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna change no matter. Why fuck it.
Speaker 1: Let's get the music, no matter what.
Speaker 2: If Jay has something to say, that's where I'm at
Speaker 2: with it. If he has something to say, then I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I would like to hear it, because no matter what,
Speaker 2: good or bad, that's what people are gonna go with. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it could be the greatest thing ever, but That's kind
Speaker 2: of what he was addressing on the end of this
Speaker 2: verse exactly, was like, y'all gonna be y'all twit's still
Speaker 2: gonna be tweeting. This is what we're doing it. So
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my life with my wife, right. So if
Speaker 2: we on that type of vibe for the album and
Speaker 2: it's hove, then I would love to hear. Of course,
Speaker 2: people are gonna say that, Yeah, that doesn't change much
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say it flopped regardless.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't outsell gnx Iceman or fall Off, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a flop collectively. Collectively, he has to sell
Speaker 2: more collectively, yeah, because that's now the standard. Well, actually,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the standard is. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: even when Kendrick sells well or Drake sells well, they're
Speaker 2: still saying they didn't hit another number they hit before.
Speaker 2: So at what point do we even care? Because who
Speaker 2: sold this year and numbers really don't matter to me.
Speaker 2: But in the scope of this conversation, what's a flop? Yeah,
Speaker 2: if Hope puts something out and sells under one hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: but it's incredible and he has a billion dollars and
Speaker 2: can sell out stadiums.
Speaker 1: Did I flop?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Show me where I flopped, because I'd love to flop.
Speaker 2: Now, this is not a shot at Ross or anything
Speaker 2: to do with our history whatsoever Ross selling was it
Speaker 2: nineteen thousand, which, by the way, selling nineteen thousand records great,
Speaker 2: and Ross is already solidified and everything Ross has done,
Speaker 2: he is an icon in his own right in that regard,
Speaker 2: So who cares what he sells at this part of
Speaker 2: his career? How the show is doing with the orchestra.
Speaker 2: If those are selling out? Is it a flop? If
Speaker 2: they're not. Now we can have that conversation. And I
Speaker 2: know that support of Miami anniversary thing, But to me,
Speaker 2: what you do with the album post release determines if
Speaker 2: it's a flop. If Ross does a tour and sells
Speaker 2: the shit out with the project, then nineteen thousand is
Speaker 2: not a flop to me. Now If he's not doing
Speaker 2: that all right, now, we're having a different conversation, right,
Speaker 2: but not everyone can do Gunner numbers and Gunna tour shit.
Speaker 2: But if you tell I don't know what Gives sold
Speaker 2: last year, I know Gibbs is selling out theaters. If
Speaker 2: Give sells thirty thousand records. How is that a flop
Speaker 2: to me? Don't cool?
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing numbers out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get it, man, I just you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes seeing Jordan walk away on the on the free
Speaker 2: throw line jumper is like the best way to end it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree.
Speaker 2: This is highest selling rap albums of twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: so far. Octane, fall Off, take Care, This is a
Speaker 2: right before Iceman, it came up. This is uh at
Speaker 2: this as of May twenty twenty six. I'm just blowing
Speaker 2: up Billboard shit randomly views, am I the Drama, Don't
Speaker 2: Be Dumb, Bully, GNX, Curtain Called Good Kid, Mad City, Graduation,
Speaker 2: Hope You're Happy for all the Dogs, Damp. Most of
Speaker 2: the albums that are the highest selling rap albums of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six are albums that came out ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a flop? Oh mean, well, I think we
Speaker 1: know what a flop is though.
Speaker 2: Top ten most stream rap albums twenty twenty six. This
Speaker 2: is as of one week ago. From Nfur podcast, Iceman, Octane, Graduation, Views, Rebel,
Speaker 2: take Care, The Boy Who Played Harp, The Eminem Show,
Speaker 2: Get Rich, Dot Trin, Don't Be Done. Top ten as
Speaker 2: of one week ago. Most of these came out well
Speaker 2: before twenty twenty six. Yeah, but I wouldn't say. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say Larry June flopped. Larry June sold twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2: Larry June if he announces that he's popping up in Soho,
Speaker 2: I've seen it myself. All Soho is gonna shut down.
Speaker 2: What's a flop?
Speaker 1: He can go on the tour, he can go overseas.
Speaker 1: What's a flop?
Speaker 2: Sell a bunch of merch have all twenty two thousand
Speaker 2: of those streams, every last one of those persons buying
Speaker 2: T shirt, it's a flop. Maximize your audience.
Speaker 1: Lotto thirty three thousand. I think that's incredible.
Speaker 2: I don't know if her label, with her overhead and
Speaker 2: the recording budget would go that is a flop. I
Speaker 2: don't know, because I don't know, and I'm never gonna
Speaker 2: populash Lotto.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so niche on what a flop
Speaker 2: is at this point that you can't really there's other
Speaker 2: things the factor in outside of the streams and things
Speaker 2: like that, because, like you said, if the label, if
Speaker 2: they recouped, Yeah, you know, Bully did a buck fifty
Speaker 2: Is that low for Kanye who's been Diamond before?
Speaker 1: I guess in that sentence.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure Kanye is looking at that like I
Speaker 2: did that completely independent, without any type of rollout whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I saw one hundred fifty thousand. I'm doing stadiums in
Speaker 2: fucking Bulgaria. I'm selling out Albania. Right, No, not to
Speaker 2: state I'm selling out the country.
Speaker 1: Right. Did I flop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a difference sixty percent bully songs on that
Speaker 2: set list. Everyone's singing the word did I flop? According
Speaker 2: to what the fans would say, Yeah, one fifty Kanye
Speaker 2: usually does four hundred, Right, that's a flop? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's just a sign of the
Speaker 2: times changing, especially you know the whole streaming thing.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a different time.
Speaker 2: Now, Like even this the Morning Do record, not even
Speaker 2: the remix when the first one came out, if you
Speaker 2: were you know, part of the behive, you knew that
Speaker 2: song existed before it was finally on streaming.
Speaker 1: But I saw plenty of people.
Speaker 2: That were comparing when you know, Beyonce is putting out
Speaker 2: a single to what the numbers did one morning dude,
Speaker 2: Like Damn, it's over for Beyonce.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. That sounds crazy, ins So.
Speaker 2: I don't care if Morning Dude sells nothing like just
Speaker 2: throwing some shit out for fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the ability to do that, now have
Speaker 1: the luxury to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now if you care about that and you're in the
Speaker 2: beginning of your career, then yes, that would be a flop.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The flop scale is is all over
Speaker 1: the place different.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we know who the people are
Speaker 2: that are obviously streaming well and will continue to do that.
Speaker 2: But everybody's not gonna do those numbers. But like you said,
Speaker 2: you have your audience, you have your pockets, you have
Speaker 2: your following that supports what you do, what you put out,
Speaker 2: You're able to sell hard tickets and fill venues. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's at that point, like you said, is
Speaker 2: what is flopping?
Speaker 3: Really? What is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And granted it doesn't take away from now.
Speaker 2: If you're not streaming well and your live shows are,
Speaker 2: then we can have a different conversation. Yeah, But I
Speaker 2: mean that's also why I do give credit to people
Speaker 2: like Gonna. I think Rocky did like one. I'm not
Speaker 2: taking away from that because that's so hard to do
Speaker 2: right now, it's just set like that's crazy and you
Speaker 2: guys should get your flowers for that because no one
Speaker 2: else is doing it. But that just doesn't define everything
Speaker 2: in this day and age where if you don't have
Speaker 2: a crazy first week, you can't be a successful artist.
Speaker 2: And that's really shit. Our guests that we're about to
Speaker 2: have now made a lane for himself for sure when
Speaker 2: he was in the machine and it wasn't working out
Speaker 2: like and has been consistently putting all good shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, we could just say it now because I'm
Speaker 2: sure you probably saw a description we have Trinidad James
Speaker 2: on which people said at the time flopped. We Trinerad
Speaker 2: James has been here for last ten years, hasn't disappeared,
Speaker 2: still putting out music, still putting out product. Yep, doing fine,
Speaker 2: just his way, exactly after he was called a flop.
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Speaker 2: Rory and Mall Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am Mall Rory and today Rory.
Speaker 2: We are, you know, joined by some very fashionable, very artistic,
Speaker 2: very eclectic, very fly gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I'll let them introduce themselves.
Speaker 4: How y'all doing out there? I go by best I'm
Speaker 4: dressed and we are bad stressed.
Speaker 1: Best dressed b E S S.
Speaker 3: D R S S D Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: When you when you ask what's the dress code before
Speaker 2: you go to the event, do you ever really follow
Speaker 2: the instructions?
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't followed the ruler.
Speaker 1: Somebody, this is an all white party, you're not going.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing about I always come to somebody's
Speaker 4: party a little bit different because usually the idea of
Speaker 4: it when like if I'm speaking about my dress code, right,
Speaker 4: my dress code is how fly I show up is
Speaker 4: how much.
Speaker 3: I fuck with you?
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, Like I've never been in a room where
Speaker 4: I've been outfly where anybody ever got upset of like damn.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's always like even though he didn't wear white at all,
Speaker 4: or he didn't wear black at all, he's.
Speaker 3: Like, Damn, that's him. You know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 3: made it to that place in life where it's like
Speaker 3: that's him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think we met at an event that
Speaker 2: was at the Gucci store years and years and years ago,
Speaker 2: and we were the only two that didn't have Gucci
Speaker 2: on it. That was one because I couldn't afford it
Speaker 2: into because you didn't want to.
Speaker 1: We were the only two same at the Gucci store.
Speaker 2: You had to wear Gucci to go to the event,
Speaker 2: and somehow I got in with the shitty T shirt
Speaker 2: and Jordan's.
Speaker 1: But anyways, Yeah, because what in you? It's not on
Speaker 1: you know? Right?
Speaker 5: That's really Ethos, the best stress bro. It's like the
Speaker 5: dress code is it's in you, it's not on you.
Speaker 2: Have y'all have you ever seen any artists that y'all
Speaker 2: are fans or that y'all love and you'll be like,
Speaker 2: if we could just put our thing on them.
Speaker 4: Like everybody, I don't think nobody really is that tight,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like not that tight?
Speaker 3: Like you got to think about it.
Speaker 4: We don't have stylists, right, so everything you've ever saw
Speaker 4: is where, whether you like it or not, we made
Speaker 4: that decision to wear. Most of the people that you
Speaker 4: like their fashion or don't like their fashion, they didn't
Speaker 4: even dress themselves.
Speaker 3: So it's like if we.
Speaker 4: Replaced their stylist, we would change the way that people
Speaker 4: perceive you. Because your image is highly the reason how
Speaker 4: people assess who you are as.
Speaker 3: A man or a woman. We'll change that.
Speaker 4: Like we're life changers, bro, Like no bullshit, My background
Speaker 4: is styling.
Speaker 3: Before I even did music, you.
Speaker 1: Had a store in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you was into fashion and you came
Speaker 2: in the first time we saw you on our on
Speaker 2: our televisions.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, who is this guy?
Speaker 2: Like yes, sir, Automatically, the fashion is what caught us.
Speaker 2: The music was like okay, but it was the style.
Speaker 2: Is that something that you always made sure was the statement?
Speaker 2: Like people when they saw you first, they already knew
Speaker 2: set me up from everybody else.
Speaker 4: No, I had no idea what I was doing when
Speaker 4: y'all first saw me. I just knew what I wanted
Speaker 4: to do for me. So when you see all go everything,
Speaker 4: you're looking at somebody who I planned all this out
Speaker 4: as far as like what are we doing for the video?
Speaker 4: But none of it had to do with impressing someone
Speaker 4: other than per Se, my closest friends, who if you
Speaker 4: think about it, like who are they the person? They're
Speaker 4: not famous, they're not. This is people from my hod,
Speaker 4: people I grew up with. They were already doing music
Speaker 4: before me. So the first people that I had to,
Speaker 4: like per Se do something for was for them. So
Speaker 4: everything that you see is like, I don't know America.
Speaker 4: I'm an immigrant.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I had never left Atlanta. I don't
Speaker 3: know anything. You know. I grew up in like New York.
Speaker 4: But that's from an immigrant living in Florida, living in
Speaker 4: New York, living in Atlanta, living in South Carolina. I
Speaker 4: don't really know what's happening in mainstream media, which most
Speaker 4: niggas don't know. When you start off, most artists like
Speaker 4: you just do the thing and then it becomes a thing.
Speaker 1: It was interesting that when all gold Everything hit, I
Speaker 1: feel like you got the stamp of like industry plant
Speaker 1: when it was the complete opposite. It was grassroots. Of course,
Speaker 1: like Soldier boy Id utilized YouTube and viral existed, but
Speaker 1: I don't have really had like a term. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the word vi to be.
Speaker 4: The first person, I have to be the first person,
Speaker 4: like and I love Soldia I saw the other day
Speaker 4: on the plane, and.
Speaker 2: Be careful, you the first person go viral, see if
Speaker 2: you have something to say.
Speaker 1: But all Soldier was the first.
Speaker 4: I'm the first person to the term, right, But no,
Speaker 4: I mean the thing about it is like I mean,
Speaker 4: even if you did go off, you know, like the
Speaker 4: truth is, you cannot find facts to prove that the
Speaker 4: word viral was ever used for someone in hip hop
Speaker 4: before or Turn that James came about. And so it's
Speaker 4: like to me, when words get coined like bling, bling
Speaker 4: and just all the things that you know, we coin
Speaker 4: with our culture, that's when it really holds weight.
Speaker 3: It's not the first.
Speaker 4: I always say, the first mouse gets to trap, the
Speaker 4: second mouse gets the cheese.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And that's just it
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean you you were still I felt
Speaker 2: like the blog era hit then, and it was kind
Speaker 2: of like the haves verse, the have nots of real
Speaker 2: hip hop first, Like it was that blog era. It
Speaker 2: was weird that you didn't you got tied into the
Speaker 2: opposite because I remember you had like Santo's like you
Speaker 2: was around all the lyrical blog rappers the entire time.
Speaker 2: Yet somehow do you think it was the media or
Speaker 2: the timeline that puts you on this like this is
Speaker 2: what's wrong with hip hop right now?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I think that it's definitely media. My biggest competition is media.
Speaker 3: The reason is that the people.
Speaker 4: I'm blessed that you guys give a damn about understanding
Speaker 4: the nigga when y'all pay attention to something. So if
Speaker 4: you like something, if you like something, you actually go
Speaker 4: listen to it. You might check out some stuff. How
Speaker 4: whatever you pay attention for, you just start spurting off
Speaker 4: at the mouth.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: The reason why you can say what you say is like, bro,
Speaker 4: I've seen this dude hanging around all the niggas that
Speaker 4: can round. Is because everybody loves me as a person.
Speaker 4: You will not not love me as a person if
Speaker 4: you're a person, if you're a real person, you can't
Speaker 4: not not love me because I operate in the aura
Speaker 4: of respect.
Speaker 3: First. Yeah, let's start there.
Speaker 4: You know what, you're better than me and holds no
Speaker 4: way because I'm not trying to do that.
Speaker 3: I've never and you will never see me be like
Speaker 3: I'm fin.
Speaker 4: I wrap these niggas today, bitch Like, That's never been
Speaker 4: my aura for me. I always stay to student because
Speaker 4: everybody that ended up becoming a pair of minds or
Speaker 4: a friend of mine or some or even a competitive
Speaker 4: of minds or somebody that I first was a fan
Speaker 4: of what they do because I understood gradually, year by
Speaker 4: year how hard it is to be successful in this shit.
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, And I mean I had on like just
Speaker 1: just left def Jim when you had gotten signed, but
Speaker 1: outside looking in and you know, just being in certain
Speaker 1: rooms the music.
Speaker 2: Did you kind of also invent trolling a bit? Did
Speaker 2: you kind of lean into some of the villain stuff
Speaker 2: at that time? Because when I was just like, all right,
Speaker 2: this guy seemed very strategic, highly intelligent. Is the Tim
Speaker 2: Westwood freestyle?
Speaker 1: Is this a version of leaning into being a villain
Speaker 1: and trolling before trolling was really a thing.
Speaker 4: Nah, I'm not a liar, so I just can't tell
Speaker 4: that lie. I just fucked that freestyle up. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I just fucked
Speaker 4: that up, Like that was that was genuine, just I
Speaker 4: fucked that up.
Speaker 1: I had a great well the first person a freestyle
Speaker 1: in a while.
Speaker 4: How was the intentionally going into it of like damn,
Speaker 4: I love this Drake and jay Z b hm because
Speaker 4: I loved Drake and jay Z. Yeah, and going into it,
Speaker 4: I had an idea of I had already been like
Speaker 4: rapping to it, and then I got kind of like
Speaker 4: just over conscious of like damn, I don't want to
Speaker 4: wrap something I already wrote, because then I wouldn't be freestyling.
Speaker 4: So I was overthinking the whole concept of freestyling. Hand
Speaker 4: wh I just sucked up you do it. But I
Speaker 4: wasn't trying to troll. I mean, I'm trolling. Is maybe
Speaker 4: something that I understand a lot better now, to be
Speaker 4: honest with you, But in the beginning, Bro, you just
Speaker 4: honestly seeing a raw artist.
Speaker 3: Bro, one of the hardest things to ever drewly be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you always be mis understood when you're actually a
Speaker 4: raw artist. Most people are industry plans, most people are groomed.
Speaker 3: Most people are taught. I wasn't taught anything.
Speaker 4: I have no big homies, I have no mentors, I
Speaker 4: have no none of that.
Speaker 2: I don't have on purpose? Or is that that's just
Speaker 2: I worked out?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm always say shout out to my first CEO, my
Speaker 4: boy fly in Atlanta. Yeah, always, he should helped change
Speaker 4: my life, you know what I'm saying. But shit, to
Speaker 4: a certain extent, we both didn't really know much whatever.
Speaker 4: He understood business in the streets whatever, and he understood
Speaker 4: how to listen more speak and speak when when it's important.
Speaker 4: So I picked that game up from him, and I
Speaker 4: already what kind of was that guy?
Speaker 3: Which is not the money?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So when you get the money, you get to kind
Speaker 3: of lock.
Speaker 4: Into the gentleman that you're going to be or the
Speaker 4: woman that you're going to be once money and power
Speaker 4: comes into your life.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you kind of helped usher in
Speaker 2: the lifestyle having to be paired with the music, or
Speaker 2: the lifestyle being an incentive to want to fuck with
Speaker 2: the music like of course, like his brothers in Hove,
Speaker 2: they had the drug dealing lifestyle attached to their.
Speaker 1: Music, but not everybody was a drug dealer, right were you?
Speaker 2: Do you think you were one of the first to
Speaker 2: do the lifestyle thing that was non crime related, like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is just sneaker store fashion.
Speaker 1: Lifestyle is attached to the actual music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I think? What I think?
Speaker 4: To go off what you said, I think that in
Speaker 4: twenty twelve, Trinidad James and the ASAP Crew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea AM's heavily included I whatever.
Speaker 4: You kind of showed you that, bro, you don't have
Speaker 4: to be that gangster to be popping in music and
Speaker 4: you could pop your shit. Yeah, how whatever, Like we
Speaker 4: set the tone for that. I'm a one man army.
Speaker 4: They're an army. How whatever. But we at that point
Speaker 4: in time, that's what I was pushing for the South
Speaker 4: because that's what I represent, and that's what they were
Speaker 4: pushing for the East Coast. It's like, I don't care
Speaker 4: about ACEP Rocky talking about shooting nobody, like he's had
Speaker 4: lines like that. Yeah, but it don't know, nobody gives
Speaker 4: a fuck. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'd rather more pay attention or what people pay attention to.
Speaker 3: It's like Damn.
Speaker 4: That's supreme goddamn tower, leopard print tower. When he come
Speaker 4: out the store, That's what somebody is fighting to go get.
Speaker 4: They're not fighting to go buy no gun because Rocky
Speaker 4: said I'm gonna pull to four four, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So to me, we both kind of
Speaker 4: like brought that into it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Even with Ferg like Forerow a gangster that happened, Like
Speaker 4: he's about workout shit, he's.
Speaker 3: About having fun, like fun and life and.
Speaker 4: Sharbo Ranks and you know what I'm saying, like all
Speaker 4: the other things. So you know, we definitely set the
Speaker 4: tone for that. Like it's no other artists that was
Speaker 4: going for that at the time. I mean, to me,
Speaker 4: the only people that I could think of who would
Speaker 4: be like Chris Brown and Tiger We're a fan of
Speaker 4: a fan, whereas like, but.
Speaker 3: The music was so good.
Speaker 4: It's like the music holds the way that Chris fucking round,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the fashion was good, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like because even that whole era, because we're talking lifestyle,
Speaker 4: Big Sean is a good equal duality of like Nigga carrap,
Speaker 4: but he could put this shit on. But he's also
Speaker 4: getting styled too. You know what I'm saying, like shout
Speaker 4: out to like Taz Arnold. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: we're talking definitely lifestyle. When we're talking lifestyle here, we
Speaker 4: ain't even really talking rap like that just happened to
Speaker 4: be something that niggas do. But lifestyle is kind of
Speaker 4: like our aura at the core. And I think that
Speaker 4: we introduced that, and I think I note that we
Speaker 4: introduced that because.
Speaker 3: We set the tone.
Speaker 4: Like I remember Rick Ross calling me I was in
Speaker 4: New York City and Rick Ross calling on even how
Speaker 4: you got my number?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 4: Like Yo, them loafas nigga, not Hello, how you doing?
Speaker 3: What's up? Trin that them loafas nigg That's how you
Speaker 3: start the conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when your lifestyle, that's when with your aura,
Speaker 4: And that's when that's what people see. They don't not
Speaker 4: even hear what I'm saying, right, they're not even hearing
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They don't care about my raps. It
Speaker 4: holds no weight, But this lever pretty sure. There's fit
Speaker 4: these VASACEI loafers that niggas ain't worn since Biggie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That's lifestyle, bro, Is this
Speaker 4: something you do?
Speaker 2: Y'all feel like social media has kind of ruined the
Speaker 2: sense of fashion and personality because there's so many people
Speaker 2: following each other and if somebody's wearing this, like I
Speaker 2: need to go get that, Whereas pre social media you
Speaker 2: had to really run around the cities and go to pieces,
Speaker 2: find them pieces and put it together. Like now you
Speaker 2: can see somebody like they'll see best stress. They'll follow
Speaker 2: y'all social media and be like, yo, some my stylistic look.
Speaker 2: I want to wear exactly what trinid that got. I
Speaker 2: want to wear exactly what five got on in these photos?
Speaker 2: Do y'all feel like social media has taken away kind
Speaker 2: of the responsibility of staying true to who you are
Speaker 2: as a as a person, as far as your style.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it goes beyond fashion into music, taste,
Speaker 5: all things. Honestly, it's going really out of control. And
Speaker 5: you know, my campaign right now is bringing back gatekeeping.
Speaker 5: I think, like gatekeeping.
Speaker 2: See I'm glad that's yeah, sure.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like allow the artists to have
Speaker 5: some mystery, allow the things to be a little bit
Speaker 5: sacred so that you can't admire it. You know, once
Speaker 5: everything is attainable, It's like when your kid. Once you
Speaker 5: get that toy, you want it, and then you got it,
Speaker 5: and it's nothing done with it, right, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. That's become everything, movies, entertainment, all that. So
Speaker 5: especially with fashion because it's so easy and accessible for everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got online shopping. You can buy a thing
Speaker 1: right now, right like you used to have to really
Speaker 1: like you had to go to the stores and find them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like they still have that camp out culture
Speaker 2: is still a thing, but like I'm talking about where
Speaker 2: it wasn't like you just had to know the different
Speaker 2: right the shops way, like you had to really put
Speaker 2: it together and put the whole fit together. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the music though, Let's get it. I was talking
Speaker 2: to you earlier, Trinidad about the Nobody song with you
Speaker 2: and Cody Shane, right.
Speaker 1: Right right, I did.
Speaker 4: When I say something, I say something, please do all right,
Speaker 4: So right now for every woman, man, nigga, bitch, whoever
Speaker 4: you associate yourself with, as right I am on a
Speaker 4: musical tear. You don't fucking listen. You only see what
Speaker 4: I wear and then you copy it. You see what
Speaker 4: I'm with my dogs and you copy it. You don't
Speaker 4: pay attention to the music. You niggas don't love music.
Speaker 4: You niggas just hear music. Trinidad James is on a
Speaker 4: fucking tear. Cody Shane is the start of that tear
Speaker 4: with I saw nobody started.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you heard that, that
Speaker 2: nobody right and not to not to not to put
Speaker 2: this on it, Trinidad. But when I when I first
Speaker 2: heard that, and I remember saying to myself, if this
Speaker 2: was Gunner right right, this record would be everywhere, this
Speaker 2: song would be everywhere, right because when you're listening to it,
Speaker 2: and then when you when your verse comes on the melodies,
Speaker 2: what you're saying, how you're you're.
Speaker 1: Styling on it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, music is so weird these days because if
Speaker 2: this said Gunner and Cody Shane and not Trinidad James
Speaker 2: and Cody Shane, everybody would be talking about this record.
Speaker 2: But to what you're saying as far as being on
Speaker 2: the tear, yes, I agree with that. You've been putting
Speaker 2: out some incredible, incredible songs.
Speaker 4: And that's the and I'm not delusion, though I also
Speaker 4: understood that I took four years to build my behind
Speaker 4: the scenes business and helping other artists and then not
Speaker 4: dropping my own music, So I understand how to side
Speaker 4: out of mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how whatever, But even.
Speaker 4: Still the way that taking it back to what we
Speaker 4: talked about earlier, media sets it up. Whereas like when
Speaker 4: you think of him, think all go everything. When you
Speaker 4: think of him, think of fashion, think of fashion. So
Speaker 4: it's if you consistently have media telling you that the
Speaker 4: only thing I could do is my job, which is
Speaker 4: I could keep building my ecosystem, right, and as they say,
Speaker 4: when they catch up, you'd probably worth more right, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But I must say that, and
Speaker 4: I'm happy that you brought that record up because there's
Speaker 4: so many other records that you.
Speaker 3: Could bring up.
Speaker 4: Is like that record is the start of like just
Speaker 4: an actual.
Speaker 3: Tier. Whooping ass?
Speaker 1: Could you put that on the January yep?
Speaker 3: You know, and to be keeping it a buck with you.
Speaker 3: This is twenty six.
Speaker 4: So July of twenty five, I dropped a record called
Speaker 4: joy Land with my artist thirty one grams, and that
Speaker 4: was honestly the true tier. But I was unsure because
Speaker 4: it was my first record dropping in.
Speaker 3: A while, so I was like, I don't know, it
Speaker 3: went up.
Speaker 4: It did like really good on all the social media platforms.
Speaker 4: I even got a little some money from a distribution
Speaker 4: company because there was like, shit, okay, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Numbers don't lie, Like I am not inflicting that, and
Speaker 4: I'll keep it organic because I come from the organic
Speaker 4: background up ship in time and then moving into newer
Speaker 4: times or whatever. I was like, okay, we got the
Speaker 4: music done, and I dropped my biggest hat, which was
Speaker 4: Herbie Hancock flip.
Speaker 3: And I pushed that actually all last year.
Speaker 4: Because I wanted to learn what it is to work
Speaker 4: one record now the TikTok way and this new content way.
Speaker 3: So these last couple of years been me, you know,
Speaker 3: all the things I.
Speaker 1: Helped people with.
Speaker 3: Was like, okay, how does it apply for me my
Speaker 3: own music?
Speaker 4: Because you pour into people long enough and then you realize,
Speaker 4: like now, niggas always think they did something or whatever,
Speaker 4: or they you not. They always think they could do
Speaker 4: something without you. I wouldever type shit, So it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: do it without me. But then more importantly, hey, my
Speaker 4: cup is empty and I'm feeling everybody else's cup up.
Speaker 3: Let's stop that bullshit.
Speaker 4: And so that's why I got in my bag and
Speaker 4: we linked with bro to put you know, finish up
Speaker 4: our project and get those things lined up. So it
Speaker 4: started with singles actually July twenty twenty four, keep Going,
Speaker 4: Keep Going, Keep Going, twenty twenty five, pushing a single
Speaker 4: for six months and a few more singles, and then
Speaker 4: this year tweeny twenty six started, started with the Cody
Speaker 4: because we don't have a project yet together, so it's
Speaker 4: I always dropped a single, but now this is the
Speaker 4: year of the projects, and so my first project dropping
Speaker 4: his best stress with best Yeah, so you know, and
Speaker 4: it's more, it's more to come, like my solo and
Speaker 4: just I'm back in the dropping game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I got a record with my boyfriend Long Island one take.
Speaker 4: Carter lebron posted that shit whatever a month ago. Doug
Speaker 4: lebron At talked to me in ten years. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that nigga he talked to me, says
Speaker 4: parting to Molly. I'm sweating, right man, that's the last
Speaker 4: time that nigga talked to me or whatever.
Speaker 2: And mister King is joining with Doe Boys Sauce twenty four,
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 4: Twenty four, twenty five. That's so me and I'm boom,
Speaker 4: you're paying attention like you. It's what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: paying it, y'all pit you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: that's the thing about it, is like people see what
Speaker 4: the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 4: They he's not a niggas not aware. It's just that
Speaker 4: bro I have then when I met Bro, some people,
Speaker 4: I think y'all understand this. It's like, Bro, when you're
Speaker 4: a threat, the best thing I could do is not
Speaker 4: shot you out. The best thing a person could do.
Speaker 4: The best thing that Joe Bunds could is not talk
Speaker 4: about y'all. That's the best thing he can do. I'm
Speaker 4: just keep it in the buck. That's the best thing
Speaker 4: Joe can do is not talk about y'all, because if
Speaker 4: we talk about y'all, the people that are still fans
Speaker 4: of y'all that's still over there, it's gonna bring attention
Speaker 4: to it because y'all not bad at what y'all do.
Speaker 4: And that's the whole thing about life, BRO. Is like
Speaker 4: when you actually are good at something and you don't
Speaker 4: conform or follow rules, I already tell you even I
Speaker 4: ain't followed the rule in a long time, that shit
Speaker 4: comes with consequences and you can't be delusional about those consequences.
Speaker 3: So I'm dealing with it.
Speaker 4: But every time I'm gonna get a chance to pop
Speaker 4: my shit and tell motherfuckers that y'all don't listen shit,
Speaker 4: y'all don't know shit about music. You can't outrap me
Speaker 4: no more. You can't do nothing with me because you
Speaker 4: can never address me. This is the time for me
Speaker 4: just to consistently keep dropping on your head top and
Speaker 4: then whatever the God has for me, for us, for
Speaker 4: anybody that I do shit with, because everybody I'm doing
Speaker 4: shit with, from Doe Boy to one, take Carter Leon Knight,
Speaker 4: my brother here best our shit is going up or whatever.
Speaker 3: And it's not even that I wish that my name.
Speaker 4: Does the same thing that Gunna does, because I love
Speaker 4: Gunner too, you know what I'm saying, And he put
Speaker 4: that work in to make his name do what he
Speaker 4: does or whatever.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm more focused on, like, hey, what is
Speaker 3: my path?
Speaker 4: What do I need to do consistently to make sure
Speaker 4: that whenever I'm doing something with anybody, nigga are you bringing.
Speaker 3: Value to it? That's all I care about is bringing value. Nigga.
Speaker 4: I might not bring your number one, but I promise
Speaker 4: you I am bringing eyes because all them niggas like Gunner, Thug,
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, everybody is looking at what I do the
Speaker 4: fucking move board for a long time.
Speaker 1: Bro. That's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 2: When when did you start focusing a lot on being
Speaker 2: a media personality? Because that was a shift. I feel
Speaker 2: like after the Depth jamdu it worked out.
Speaker 3: It worked out.
Speaker 4: I did my own version of a sneaker show at
Speaker 4: my condo, which was called Camp Jay. So that kind
Speaker 4: of gave me that like on camera, I'm ahead of
Speaker 4: the time. When I way ahead of time on that,
Speaker 4: I brought that idea to La. Nobody would pick up
Speaker 4: the show. What whatever my sneaker show. I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'm leaving alone. And then Complex they came
Speaker 4: and did a sneaker show and I was like, this.
Speaker 3: Shit feels like my show.
Speaker 1: What the fuck hold on?
Speaker 4: Let me get on here, And so I did it
Speaker 4: as a guest, crushed that ship, did really well. And
Speaker 4: then the host that was there when I left, he
Speaker 4: left and went to work somewhere else. And so then
Speaker 4: my accountant it was like yo, because I put him
Speaker 4: on sneakers. Referring to my accountant, He's like, he you're
Speaker 4: go and take his spot, And I was like, am
Speaker 4: I get a job for? It doesn't make sense? But
Speaker 4: then he was like, nah. Media has always been a
Speaker 4: thing that don't understand me. They never get my write
Speaker 4: ups right, they never understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The music barely like it never Why Why is that though?
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that because I have no existence prior to
Speaker 4: to my existence, So I have nobody who can be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was my man's man's or It's like no, I
Speaker 4: am a.
Speaker 3: Completely new creature. I am a completely new thing. And
Speaker 3: I'm not fake friends with niggas. Don't kiss ass, don't
Speaker 3: kiss the ring. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I barely kiss my mama. I'm not kissing shit. Bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that triggers people.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: That trickers people, you know, And I understand that it
Speaker 4: doesn't bother me because I never lose my respect. I've
Speaker 4: always respected people from the jam. When sh don't bro,
Speaker 4: I could have said all type of crazy shit about
Speaker 4: Death Jam. You've never seen me say aything about bad
Speaker 4: about Death Jam. I let them go with the narrative
Speaker 4: that they dropped me.
Speaker 3: They didn't drop me, bro, I can tell you that
Speaker 3: stretch to your face. It never dropped me.
Speaker 4: I my Boyfly, who was my first CEO at TLG,
Speaker 4: think it's a game.
Speaker 3: He literally was like, Yo, this is what's happening with
Speaker 3: shit right now.
Speaker 4: And he pitched the idea to me, like, Yo, you
Speaker 4: can actually put in a request to get off of
Speaker 4: a label. They don't have to approve it, but you
Speaker 4: can do that. And we did that and they approved it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we just separated ways or whatever. And yes, respect
Speaker 4: because it's always respect from the Karen Quarx, Sean Pecos's
Speaker 4: boo which is a CON's brother, Barry Wise whatever, Chris Atlas,
Speaker 4: I would have.
Speaker 3: Those are the five people that like.
Speaker 4: Were my champions into Death Jam, right, and everybody named
Speaker 4: there's a fucking Death Jam heavy hitter at that time. Right,
Speaker 4: So I'm not talking about no fucking peon, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm talking about real people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's how I came into the game with the five Horsemen,
Speaker 4: how whatever, and it's like as soon as I got
Speaker 4: in the five Horseman disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big shift, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like I think that the union or was
Speaker 4: twenty twelve, okay, twenty thirteen, Okay, twenty thirteen. I came
Speaker 4: out twenty twelve, and by twenty fifteen, twenty into twenty fourteen,
Speaker 4: that recourest we put in, Like twenty fifteen, that recourse
Speaker 4: we put in, that's when it got approved. I moved
Speaker 4: to LA and never turned back, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And Barry White signed me again. Barry White signed me again,
Speaker 4: bro with another.
Speaker 3: Record level with fucking Ron Perry Bro. I would ever
Speaker 3: type shit.
Speaker 4: And so it's like when I saw that, I was like, damn,
Speaker 4: I don't really understand you people, because I don't think
Speaker 4: I know y'all don't understand me. And so to go
Speaker 4: back to your question of like why is the media
Speaker 4: always have a why is it not right?
Speaker 3: How? Whatever?
Speaker 4: Is like, well, because nobody really does their fucking homework.
Speaker 4: I don't be in people face. I wouldever trying to
Speaker 4: prove to you anything. It's like you pay attention, like
Speaker 4: I'm doing the work. Your favorite artist is a fan
Speaker 4: of me. Your favorite artist is not out working me.
Speaker 4: I've been doing this shit for fifteen years now, Bro,
Speaker 4: this is year fifteen. Now, Bro, it's like, well fourteen,
Speaker 4: actually be fifteen. It's like I'm still here doing shit.
Speaker 4: Like literally Lebron posts my shit last night. My boy
Speaker 4: won't take holdever, Like so much shit, Like is so
Speaker 4: much shit on the way musically, because I've done all
Speaker 4: I've done and doing all the other things.
Speaker 3: I have my own.
Speaker 4: Brand, you know what I'm saying, Like the store, all
Speaker 4: the things that you're supposed to keep assive income as
Speaker 4: a man, like forget about the artist as a man.
Speaker 4: His things that as you graduate in from your twenties
Speaker 4: to your thirties and onwards, that like certain things to
Speaker 4: just start locking in a house, a car, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like stop leasing, Like just there's things
Speaker 4: that hey, as a man, this shit changed for your diet,
Speaker 4: working out, like just so many things. It's like, bro,
Speaker 4: I had got the time when I was in people's
Speaker 4: face and you wasn't hearing music from me. I wasn't
Speaker 4: just depressed and crying and count gold coins.
Speaker 3: Not how I was doing the work as a man.
Speaker 4: He's supposed to do because I knew that the artist
Speaker 4: would shine again, but the artists could never shine correctly
Speaker 4: if the man is incorrect. And you know, it's like
Speaker 4: being blessed to have people like best in my life
Speaker 4: who is like he's a solid individual, takes care of
Speaker 4: his family. You know what I'm saying, just bought a
Speaker 4: new house. Like those are the type of people that
Speaker 4: I have around me. Those are the type of people.
Speaker 4: If you you see me out, I don't be with
Speaker 4: a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of people la bt like literally is by yourself.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I'm saying, Like that's where niggas be.
Speaker 4: With the extra you know what I'm saying, like free
Speaker 4: my man's big you and like be with all that
Speaker 4: type of shit Like no, bro, no, no, that is
Speaker 4: not because of no gangster shit.
Speaker 3: It's because I.
Speaker 4: Know myself as a man, I understand how to respect people.
Speaker 4: Most artists don't have their shit together. They can't talk,
Speaker 4: they can't interview, they can't sit down with you, y'all.
Speaker 3: They can't. They can't do it. They can't.
Speaker 4: I do these niggas careers. I've been able to do
Speaker 4: my career and their career like both careers at the
Speaker 4: same time. And now this is me be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I could do your career and do music, so let
Speaker 4: me show you that. Because I also didn't want to
Speaker 4: have my agency, which is I created my creative agency,
Speaker 4: which is five six seven is the name of it.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be one of those people.
Speaker 4: Like one of the things that like Steve Nate Smith
Speaker 4: is the highest paid talker, right and but one of
Speaker 4: the things that always is going to be a jab
Speaker 4: to the side of him is like, bro, you don't play.
Speaker 3: You don't play.
Speaker 4: So when you say certain things because you want that
Speaker 4: viral moment or that the salacious moment, how whatever, is like, bro,
Speaker 4: you don't do the things. So I never wanted to
Speaker 4: be one of those guys that's like telling whoever you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, oh, don't do that, you can
Speaker 4: and then like I don't have none to prove.
Speaker 1: You got to be in the game.
Speaker 4: In the game, bro, Like, don't tell me about shit
Speaker 4: if you're not in the game, I feel please don't.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the music best dressed. What can
Speaker 2: we expect, what's the sound, what's the energy, what's the what? What?
Speaker 1: What is? What are we expecting from best Dressed.
Speaker 5: You know, honestly, it's us finally doing what he said,
Speaker 5: like pouring back into ourselves. So instead of doing all
Speaker 5: the things that we would do for another artist, right, produce,
Speaker 5: try to cut you off, bring Mike a little closer,
Speaker 5: of course, instead of doing all the writing and producing
Speaker 5: for everybody, setting up the rolling, playing roll out for them,
Speaker 5: you know, making sure everything connects to do that for ourselves.
Speaker 5: And you know it's beautiful because it's actually free. We
Speaker 5: don't really give a damn about all the things. We
Speaker 5: just doing what we want to do, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And that comes from music down to the style.
Speaker 5: You know, I got a suit on today, but I
Speaker 5: might have a tea on tomorrow. We would do anything crazy,
Speaker 5: and that's kind of how the music is like a
Speaker 5: smortgage board, you know, and it's all made for you
Speaker 5: to dance and feel. Field music again too, because you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of people lost. The focus has become about
Speaker 5: content and about how I can make a moment out
Speaker 5: of this dude, you know whatever, When we started this,
Speaker 5: it was only about feeling and only about sound and
Speaker 5: only about you know, the movement of it all. You know,
Speaker 5: I came into the game, and I'll give y'all a
Speaker 5: little bit about me, because we you know, got no history.
Speaker 5: But I came in with Tea Pain. So I came
Speaker 5: in with the nigga that was the ultimate hit man.
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, the feeling guy like
Speaker 5: he was relying on on that solely. And that's how
Speaker 5: I came in the game. And I met him maybe
Speaker 5: a couple of years after me Pain. And so those two,
Speaker 5: those two energies like big hit, big hit energy, big
Speaker 5: creative energy, person.
Speaker 1: Had the top hats.
Speaker 5: If you remember when Pain first came out, he was
Speaker 5: a circus, right, it was, you know, you know, as
Speaker 5: a producer, because that's why I came in primarily.
Speaker 1: It allowed me to be crazy free. You know, I
Speaker 1: could do whatever with him.
Speaker 5: He might pull up an D M B, he might
Speaker 5: pull up an R and B, he might pull up whatever,
Speaker 5: and then we just go crazy and tell and tell
Speaker 5: I met Trinida that I was really just out here
Speaker 5: kind of floating.
Speaker 1: I was kind of spoiled coming through Pain, you know,
Speaker 1: just coming out to somebody like like that.
Speaker 3: Bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm originally from Iowa, a little small town going Iowa,
Speaker 5: and so you know, when I'm at Pain, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: this guy is crazy. We can go we can wake
Speaker 5: up and do this, we can wake up and do that.
Speaker 5: And then when I moved from Atlanta to l a
Speaker 5: kind of do my own thing, I had to find
Speaker 5: new artists, you know what I mean. So I was
Speaker 5: out here working with doing the thing. If you ever
Speaker 5: worked in LA, it's a different It's like very monotonous.
Speaker 5: You're doing three sessions today. You don't know nobody. It's
Speaker 5: a bunch of strangers all the time. And then you know,
Speaker 5: through trying to find management, ended up linking with him
Speaker 5: in a random session in the midst of all of that,
Speaker 5: and you know, he the first thing he said to
Speaker 5: me was play me the craziest beats nobody can write to,
Speaker 5: which I had never heard in a session nobody. Everybody like,
Speaker 5: give me a pop smash, get smashed, give me a
Speaker 5: trap smash bro I smashed, like what you did for
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But he was just like playing, which
Speaker 5: was challenging, you know what I'm saying. And I come
Speaker 5: from the beat battle era too, where it's like you
Speaker 5: want to impress the other person through the music and
Speaker 5: it ain't no words, but it could just be the beat.
Speaker 5: And so I played something crazy on and this this
Speaker 5: man actually killed dim shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I've been in sessions.
Speaker 5: With everybody I signed the Pain, so I had everybody
Speaker 5: all the sessions, and he was the first one that I.
Speaker 1: Was just like, damn, he killed this shit. And he
Speaker 1: didn't even really know he was a songwriter at that point.
Speaker 1: He was writing kind of for other people, but like it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't really it was really just like I got more
Speaker 5: creativity than I have access to do anything with, so
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna keep creating. Then I was like, bro,
Speaker 5: you know you could be you could really be a
Speaker 5: songwriter for everybody, Like you got a crazy talent. After
Speaker 5: us really starting to get consistent with it, that's when
Speaker 5: we really locked in. I'm like, oh, this this is
Speaker 5: different because I have a perspective from the Pain side,
Speaker 5: and then he has a creative perspective that's just so
Speaker 5: left field. We get to bring people beautiful records, you know,
Speaker 5: like the assignment we did for Take Money and we
Speaker 5: did Conceded for Flow Millie. These are like newer records
Speaker 5: where we you know, are both of our world's kind
Speaker 5: of meet. You know what I'm saying, the creativity, the
Speaker 5: hard the precision because you know I came from precise
Speaker 5: type beasts too, and you know this this honestly to
Speaker 5: bring it all back to best stress though, it was
Speaker 5: like we had did that, Like he said, we've given
Speaker 5: four years of our life to other people of us
Speaker 5: your songwriting. It was like, yeah, bro, we didn't kind
Speaker 5: of learn you know, shout outs to learning on their
Speaker 5: their dollar. I will say that we learned a lot
Speaker 5: of the game through their budgets. And you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, that's one thing that I realized the job I.
Speaker 1: Was on someone else's like we got we got to
Speaker 1: pick up showing up. I'm using the session.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dressed like that, just like that, bro, So you
Speaker 5: really got to seize the opportunity because otherwise you kind
Speaker 5: of sitting and just creating in the back.
Speaker 1: And we saw that.
Speaker 5: It was like, man, look, we don't like working with
Speaker 5: niggas per se because they're very egotistical, but working with
Speaker 5: women is amazing. So we just we made a conscious
Speaker 5: decision to to work with women, focus on the women. Yeah,
Speaker 5: before the women thing was like a thing We did
Speaker 5: that in like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and we were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we respect women and we love women, and we're safe
Speaker 5: for women. I have wife, he ain't on that time,
Speaker 5: and like that, we just focus on the work. So
Speaker 5: it made us, you know, the safe place to go,
Speaker 5: and we did a lot of that stuff. And so
Speaker 5: now it's like, yeah, bro, we learned how to create
Speaker 5: a hit for a woman or a person that's outside
Speaker 5: of our own demographic right right, So that just allows
Speaker 5: us to write differently for ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well creative exactly.
Speaker 5: We learned how to do content. This shift that happened
Speaker 5: in the last week. We got to learn through other people.
Speaker 5: Like with Tay, we were very responsible for her viral success.
Speaker 5: You know, people don't know that, but we were back
Speaker 5: there doing everything. You know, I'll say this now, because
Speaker 5: you know, we were doing producing, writing, you know, mix it.
Speaker 5: We even mixed the record, We got the style, we
Speaker 5: styleed take for that video.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We did everything, you know, and so after that it's like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 5: like instead of you give all this to these artists
Speaker 5: and sometimes they just don't meet you on the other
Speaker 5: side of it with the work because right now. Like
Speaker 5: we said at the beginning, it's so heavy on media,
Speaker 5: you need to work the record through social there's something
Speaker 5: viral you gotta do. And if the artists don't do that,
Speaker 5: it don't matter how good a record is, Bro, you
Speaker 5: got the best record in the world. If they don't
Speaker 5: do something to get the shade room talking about them,
Speaker 5: to get somebody doing a trend on a that, it
Speaker 5: don't matter.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: So at that point, it's like, we might as well
Speaker 5: just do everything with ourselves, like shoot and then read
Speaker 5: the benefits, you know what I'm saying, instead of taking
Speaker 5: a little fee or whatever the fee may be.
Speaker 1: Wow, No, no, no, we're gonna do that.
Speaker 5: And then with that kind of girl, we obviously we
Speaker 5: love ourselves, so we're gonna put the best into what
Speaker 5: we do because we love ourselves. So that's what we
Speaker 5: really what this project is is just like a reflection
Speaker 5: of how we feel about ourselves.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: Take care of all the ends, just like you would
Speaker 5: take a nice outfit, Taylor, and you get to every
Speaker 5: beach is good, every mix is good, every song that part.
Speaker 5: It's literally that we said that that's what the music
Speaker 5: is all about.
Speaker 2: What's best dress. Let them know where they could catch all.
Speaker 3: At so B S S D R S s D.
Speaker 3: That's our social media.
Speaker 4: Our website is where you really need to go though,
Speaker 4: the Best Dress dot com t H E B E
Speaker 4: S S D, R S s D dot com. This
Speaker 4: is very very important man, that this is not the
Speaker 4: last you're seeing of us once again.
Speaker 3: Like I said, this is the beginning of the war.
Speaker 4: This is playing offense, like Hope said, like all right,
Speaker 4: we play defense.
Speaker 3: Long enough, I have you long enough or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm tired of people not meeting me with their best
Speaker 4: and that's why we just had to put our best
Speaker 4: into ourselves, bro, you know what I'm saying. Literally, the
Speaker 4: intro of the album is called Best Self. You know,
Speaker 4: that's the first song we start there. That's the affirmation,
Speaker 4: that is the a line like that. However, if you
Speaker 4: can't be your best self, you damn Su're not gonna
Speaker 4: be their best for me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And so that's where we're at with it musically, and
Speaker 4: every opportunity that we get, every opportunity that I get,
Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta pop my ship, bro, I gotta
Speaker 4: I gotta let people know that this is not the
Speaker 4: kid who let mad Ship slide because I don't got
Speaker 4: time to argue bullshit or whatever. It's like, Bro, I
Speaker 4: got a family to take care. I got my mom,
Speaker 4: I got mad Ship to do, my dad. They're older people.
Speaker 4: I don't have time to be arguing with a nigga
Speaker 4: that don't care about themselves.
Speaker 1: You don't actually care.
Speaker 3: About me, you know what I'm saying? Like, Bro, I've
Speaker 3: never met a nigga that actually had real smoke with me. Never.
Speaker 4: Never.
Speaker 1: Bro, it's not real.
Speaker 3: It's not real, bro.
Speaker 4: But what is real is that taking advantage of great
Speaker 4: platforms like y'all and allowing people to know it's like, Bro,
Speaker 4: listen to the new music, pay attention to the.
Speaker 1: New video, listen to the views, like.
Speaker 3: That's the point.
Speaker 4: Like a nigga's not going to be mother fucking Little
Speaker 4: Hoozy and his hips in the streets.
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking grown up bro. I don't have that.
Speaker 5: I'll say I'll say that that. Like, Bro, listen to
Speaker 5: the music. That's literally it. That's always as you don't
Speaker 5: know what, camera whatever. Just listen to the music. Please,
Speaker 5: I promise that you will not be disappointed. We put
Speaker 5: our heart and soul into it. And that's really all
Speaker 5: it is. We're not trying to really sell it in
Speaker 5: the sense of everything else. Just listen, just listen to
Speaker 5: the music.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen anytime y'all back in the city, man,
Speaker 2: please come by.
Speaker 1: There's been a pleasure kicking with y'all. Trender that.
Speaker 2: I love everything that you're doing. Bro fire looking up
Speaker 2: for everything that you'll come best.
Speaker 1: You gotta come back and talk about some t paint
Speaker 1: sessions when you guys have that's that's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got big paint records that we know that
Speaker 2: you were there for those sessions. Yes, sir, Yes sir,
Speaker 2: you guys as we gotta come back an hour and
Speaker 2: a half of just tapaining right now. Dress dress go
Speaker 2: get that. Just listen to the music. Yes, I'm that nigga.
Speaker 2: He's just that's best dressed.
Speaker 3: What's the dress code?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir,