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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live. Happy to be part of

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Speaker 2: your afternoon on what officially feels like a summer day

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Speaker 2: in Western New York. It took till June fourth, but

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Speaker 2: we made it.

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Speaker 1: It's so hot, man, I can't wait till it cools down. God,

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Speaker 1: so dry, so full of it. It's so dry, absolutely

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Speaker 1: full of cloud covering.

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Speaker 2: Some moisture is what we really need, right, bite your

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Speaker 2: tongue because there will there is rain in the forecast.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a little bit of a little bit

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Speaker 1: of late rival. I will admit, even to me, who

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Speaker 1: is a staunch Western New York advocate, yep, whether or otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And you know, looks it's getaway time that

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Speaker 2: we're quickly approaching that part of the NFL calendar because

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Speaker 2: we have Mini camp next week and then it's sure

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Speaker 2: people zooming out of here, the players, chiefly because they

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Speaker 2: have approximately five to six weeks before training camp and

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Speaker 2: then it's on like Donkey Kong at that point.

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Speaker 1: Then, yeah, it's all hands on deck. Yeah, you kind of.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun to be a part of, you know,

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Speaker 1: particularly in this point in history, for Brownie and I

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Speaker 1: to be here every day and the season is so

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Speaker 1: it's steam rolls, right. I mean we've all we've all

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Speaker 1: talked about it, and we all feel it. You know

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Speaker 1: that bill season starts training camp and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you tumbling that you're tumbling downhill and it's man,

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Speaker 1: there's no stopping it. Uh, And it's it's just happened

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Speaker 1: so fast. That part of that is the all the

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Speaker 1: glacial pace that July brings. The last half of June

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Speaker 1: and July bring, it's like nothing going on. I think

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Speaker 1: that's I think that's deliberate by the league.

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Speaker 2: Well it's probably healthy too. I mean, even as much

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Speaker 2: as people are obsessed with the NFL, you can develop

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Speaker 2: fatigue for just about anything. Sure, so if it's in

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Speaker 2: your face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the league does a nice job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's say it's the best run sports league

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Speaker 1: in the on the planet. I'll die on that hill.

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Speaker 1: And they do the stuff that they the tenth Poll.

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Speaker 1: Events that we talk about that we our show centers

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Speaker 1: around in the off season, free agency, the combine, the

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Speaker 1: draft and OTAs. I mean, you just there's there's so

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Speaker 1: vastly different aspects of the game. People really look forward

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Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're junkies for all of those events, right,

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's nice. I guess it's nice except for

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Speaker 1: people like you and me who work through it. It's

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Speaker 1: nice then, man that Lee just stops in the summer,

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Speaker 1: takes a deep breath before they jump in with both feet,

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Speaker 1: and it goes right back to the front page of

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Speaker 1: the the finger quote front pages. No front pages anymore,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but the title page of the off of

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Speaker 1: the season. Man, it's right back in the center of

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Speaker 1: everybody's plate, right right through the fall and into the winter.

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Speaker 1: So it's nice. I'm I'm trying to decide whether I'm

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Speaker 1: ready for a deep breath yet. Not yet, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to Well, I'm not talking about our show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, see later. I'm out here.

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Speaker 1: I can ride you through one more show. But I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about yes, exactly, I'm talking about just I want

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Speaker 2: OTA Week three is pretty much wrapped up at this point,

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Speaker 2: although Tarren Johnson, who was noted as having a red

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Speaker 2: News that he had surgery for a torn labram in

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Speaker 2: was wearing said red non contact jersey. Recovery time for

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Speaker 2: laborm tears in the shoulder typically go three to six months,

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Speaker 2: so it's anticipated he will be fine for training camp.

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Speaker 2: Mandatory mini camp, as we know, is next week, starts

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Speaker 2: on June tenth, which is a week from yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: then the Rubber will meet the road on a couple

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Speaker 2: not attended any of the voluntary sessions to this point.

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Speaker 2: The NFL announced that NFL Network will be carrying twenty

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Speaker 2: one preseason games this summer, and there is one Bills

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Speaker 2: game on that docket, So if you're outside the local

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Speaker 2: able to catch Buffalo's preseason opener on Saturday, August ninth,

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Speaker 2: it's their one pm game here at high Mark Stadium

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Speaker 1: It's always fun and it people don't think about it

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Speaker 1: it's Dion Walker comes out. I'm like, no, he looks

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Speaker 1: You look at me like, oh that guy, he looks

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Speaker 1: than anybody, and it changes the way you feel about

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Speaker 1: the team and the individual players and all your value.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have value. You know, we're like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: We have our own opinions and we talk about them

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Speaker 1: all the time. But it changes it when you see

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Speaker 1: him in person. That's a fun It's part of the

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Speaker 2: We were watching Max Harriston yesterday and we both were

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Speaker 1: We couldn't stop talking about it. He looked almost fluid.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't do it justice, I said. It looked like his

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the topic of discussion here today, but

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Speaker 2: Looked really good yesterday moving around on the field, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Would I would argue he has the best pedal and

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Speaker 1: I'm and I know this show, we haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: do anything. I mean they're running around in shorts right so,

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Speaker 1: and like we were all and everybody's still a little

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Speaker 1: bit gaga over a guy like Sauce Gardener. Listen, Sauce

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Speaker 1: Gardener could play a game for the Jets in shorts

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Speaker 1: contact as he's gonna get the whole game. He avoids it.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I don't like him as a corner.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't mix up.

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Speaker 2: He's not remember Ray Davis running over him at the

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Speaker 1: That's right, I mean, just he just doesn't want any

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Speaker 1: the elite level of cornerback. Now, certainly he's an elite

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You got to be a football player

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Speaker 1: and there's sometimes he just decided he didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking at Maxwell Harrison and we're talking about him,

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Speaker 1: but it's shorts and T shirts. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Texans quarterback c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud has not been throwing at Houston OTA's this week

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Speaker 2: or any of the other media viewed sessions. Head coach

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Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans, when asked about it, said the team is

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Speaker 2: not concerned and labeled Stroud's malady as shoulder soreness. When

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Speaker 2: Ryan's was asked if Stroud would throw at mandatory mini

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Speaker 2: also did not answer when asked if Stroud had any

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Speaker 2: shoulder treatment this offseason. He would only say he'll go

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Speaker 2: when he's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You think he had it worked on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to think here. Coach Ryan's gave

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Speaker 2: to me, this is a red flag.

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Speaker 1: Well it is unless he had it worked on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not at the end of his rehabilitation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: cleaned up, that's a that would be good news.

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Speaker 1: If it's not, you got problems, big problems, because if

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Speaker 2: Get right right. And you have to think about this too.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that to some degree anyway revamped

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Speaker 2: to their receiving corps. No Stefan Diggs, no Robert Woods,

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Speaker 2: two brand new draft choices out of Iowa State, and

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Speaker 2: Higgins and Jaylen Noel who were drafted, no reps with

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Speaker 2: there's don't will time to be made up.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm a Texans fan, I'm not really clutching

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Speaker 1: my pearls until I find out that the reason he's

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Speaker 1: set back in the day when they decided they wanted

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Speaker 1: to go without surgery. So all right, we're gonna wait

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Speaker 1: hold him out of OTAs then many by many. If

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Speaker 1: he's not ready by mini camp and hasn't been throwing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got enough. If he goes in mini camp throws,

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Speaker 1: no problem, Yeah, then that. But if he's if he's

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Speaker 1: telling us he's not throwing because he's sore, that's me

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Speaker 1: they got.

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Speaker 2: That's not good.

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Speaker 1: That's not good.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The Pittsburgh Steelers talks with the Dolphins to acquire

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Speaker 2: tight end John who Smith is back on. According to reports,

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Speaker 2: there had been talks a week ago, but they died down.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday in Ota, Steelers free agent signeye tight end

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Speaker 2: Donald Parham suffered an achilles tendentear and is done for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So it has prompted the Steelers to reinquire about Smith's availability.

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Speaker 2: Smith's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, stated publicly that Smith's number one

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Speaker 2: preference is to remain with the Dolphins. I believe he's

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Speaker 2: a Florida native, went to Florida International in college and

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Speaker 2: would like to stay close to home. But as we know,

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Speaker 2: in this business, players very rarely make those decisions.

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Speaker 1: How about if you're Donald Parnham Parham, Yeah, going to

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Speaker 1: a new team, the Steelers, let's go. We got a

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Speaker 1: good contract, you know, and then bang done?

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Speaker 2: Bounty of choices here. I mean, there's a part of

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing we and we've been talking about it

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Speaker 5: Ye, if I'm not mistaken, the Bills have been fall

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Speaker 5: He threw a forty yards down the field and there

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Speaker 1: Having control of a player contractually doesn't necessarily mean the

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Speaker 1: make them think about it, Yeah, easily. So And it

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Speaker 1: comes down to brown Brownie's Brownie has He was talking

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Speaker 1: to me about James Cook before the Bills drafted him,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta love the guy. Man. He had a

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Speaker 1: He had a whale of a season last year for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. He was he was a force and was

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Speaker 1: important in a lot of their wins.

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Speaker 2: In their playoff wins.

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Speaker 1: In their playoff wins. Yeah, I mean the guy is

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Speaker 1: not just a guy. But and I say this all

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Speaker 1: the time, the difference between James Cook and just a

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Speaker 1: guy is not is not worth the money you have

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Speaker 1: to pay a guy like James Cook to give him

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Speaker 1: what he's worth. If he if you say he's even

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Speaker 1: the top five guy in the league, he's making twice

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Speaker 1: as much as he is now and he we would

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Speaker 1: you can get him in the conversation as a top

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Speaker 1: three or four. Forget about top ten. So, but the

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Speaker 1: difference between James Cook and you can say what you want,

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Speaker 1: you can poop poo this if you want, but I'm

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Speaker 1: it's true to me. Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, James Cook,

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Speaker 1: who's another one, McCaffrey, Josh Jacobs, Josh Jacobs, those guys.

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Speaker 1: The difference between them and the Ty Johnson and Ray Davis'

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Speaker 1: of the world is not massive. It's it's about opportunity

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Speaker 1: and circumstance, and then it's about their talent as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that James Cook's talent allows him

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Speaker 2: to make plays by himself. He made plays in that

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Speaker 2: Chiefs playoff game by himself. He scored a touchdown that

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Speaker 2: was horribly executed by himself with two defenders draped all

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Speaker 2: over him.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the over the goal line, yeah, reach

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Speaker 1: for the goal line?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Yeah, he can make plays by himself. Some

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Speaker 2: of the other running can't do that as effective.

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Speaker 1: Well, you say they can't, but they don't get the chance.

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Speaker 1: And the this guy.

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Speaker 2: Played less than half the snaps for the team less.

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Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, but he also the

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Speaker 1: Bills also handed it off as much as any team

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Speaker 1: in the league, or I'm not as over. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: over fifty running plays, so I'm you know, maybe Ray

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Speaker 1: Davis doesn't reach the ball over at the one, maybe

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Speaker 1: he still gets in. Maybe Ty Johnson still gets in

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Speaker 1: even with two guys around him. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say they get thrown for I'm they're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: thrown for a loss. I mean, I'm just saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was the guy carrying the ball, but he's also

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Speaker 1: the guy that was back there that Josh had to

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Speaker 1: hand it to. And I don't know that. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: There's just no way you can convince me that that position,

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Speaker 1: with the amount of talent that there is in the

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Speaker 1: game these days, that it's say what eight if he

483
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Speaker 1: gets fifteen million, and there's no way he's thirteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars better than the guys standing on the sidelines. That's

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Speaker 1: the point I've always made, And whether it's true or not,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's what that's my belief. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Getting back to the topic of discussion, which defensive lineman

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Speaker 2: will lead the charge this season for the Bills. To

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Speaker 2: the phones, we go into Issy in North Carolina, what's

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Speaker 2: up is he?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how are you good?

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Speaker 6: And I think that this is gonna be aj Epeness's

493
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Speaker 6: coming out party this year because he'd never had anybody,

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Speaker 6: you know, helping him on each side, you know, the

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Speaker 6: line on defense and these two guys that we got,

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Speaker 6: somebody's got to free up aj so that he could

497
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Speaker 6: rushed to passer. I mean, I just can't wait to

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Speaker 6: see this defense.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So, I mean it would be good if Epinessa

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Speaker 2: did have a big year because he's in a contract

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Speaker 2: year because last year, as we know, is a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Any sign a two year extension with Buffalo, so this

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Speaker 2: is year two. So if he can make it happen

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Speaker 2: this year and put up a big production season, it'll

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Speaker 2: be very good for his wallet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I'd like to know is he what

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Speaker 1: you know, what you've seen from aj Panessa that makes

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Speaker 1: you think he's like a force waiting to be to emerge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's coming into his four fifth year.

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Speaker 2: Let's see twenty years, sixth years.

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Speaker 1: He's coming into his sixth year. I mean, and he

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Speaker 1: had von Miller at his best and he said Greg

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Speaker 1: Russeau over there. He's had Ed Oliver and all these

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Speaker 1: guys and I'll say this too. We have said a

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Speaker 1: lot about Ed Oliver, about Greg Russeau, and about aj

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Speaker 1: Panessa and others who have played for this team. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we need them. All they need is some help up there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you think those guys, why don't they help? You know,

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Speaker 1: we're waiting on one of these guys to become a force.

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Speaker 1: Not von Miller. He didn't always have a guy on

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Speaker 1: the other side of him helping him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's kind of I mean, if you look

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Speaker 2: at his stats from the last three seasons, he's been

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Speaker 2: kind of the same person. Last three seasons. Six and

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Speaker 2: a half sacks, six and a half sacks, six sacks,

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Speaker 2: tackles for a loss seven, seven and eight quarterback hits ten,

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Speaker 2: ten and eleven. I think he kind of is what

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Speaker 2: he is. He's a good role player for this team.

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Speaker 1: He's a steady, very sharp guy. He plays well, he

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Speaker 1: gives him a full effort, he prepares well. He's part

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Speaker 1: of the chemistry that makes it go.

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Speaker 2: But I leading this group, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's his thing. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, But more of your

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Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back, Dan in Lancaster, Cindy

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Speaker 2: Niagara Falls will lead us off at eight O three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty. As we're asking you which defensive

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Speaker 2: lineman will lead the charge this season for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: your phone calls next here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by co Loid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you and discussing the defensive line contingent. Which Bill's

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman will lead the charge for this team in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. A lot of changes up front, a

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Speaker 2: lot of new talent on the roster. Maybe it's an

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Speaker 2: incumbent that with that new talent reaches a new level

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Speaker 2: of play. But you let us know at eight h

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Speaker 2: three zero five point fifty one eighty eight five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty. Back to the phones and to

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Speaker 2: Dan and Lancaster. What do you got for us? Dan?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the gentlemen, thank you for taking my call. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 4: I well, you don't have a favorite with defensive wine, man,

556
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like it's like I'm looking at the receivers,

557
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the whole team. It's kind of like

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00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: fruit loops in a bowl of milk. I like them all.

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00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: You got Pivlo collars, and I got the swoon pool

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00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: open up for my cats. Sleek foot pool coming up today.

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Speaker 2: So thanks, Okay, Dan, gotta go, gotta get the pool open.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us a call first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate Dan, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Is it unusual that I'm that I was channeling far

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Speaker 2: As Gump. Yes, Like life is like a box of chocolate,

567
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: the Bill's defensive line is like a bowl of fruit.

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00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Like the whole teams like fruit loops. You like them all.

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Speaker 1: Even maybe the team I was on could have been

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Speaker 1: referred to more accurately as fruit loops. But but I

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Speaker 1: get the analogy. Yeah, we've talked about it. It is

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Speaker 1: a good roster. It is a good roster. And just

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Speaker 1: because you don't have a favorite, right, but we're talking,

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Speaker 1: we're just and you can call it. Listen, everybody, you

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00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: can call in talk about anything you want. Our question

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Speaker 1: is about which defensive lineman you think is going to

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Speaker 1: turn into a guy on this team this year with

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Speaker 1: the new editions, with the change in chemistry. What's it

579
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Speaker 1: going to take? So, but you can call and talk

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Speaker 1: about anything you want like Dan did. And I hope

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Speaker 1: your pool opens up really well, that's all I can say.

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Speaker 2: And it's not green. Let's let's go to Cindy and

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Speaker 2: Niagara Falls next. What's up, Cindy.

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I want to

585
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Speaker 7: go back to the Cook story because I called in

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Speaker 7: six months ago. I know it's the same crap called

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Speaker 7: in six months ago and I said, they really should

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Speaker 7: take care of him. You know, he's he's a good player,

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Speaker 7: and I think it thinks that he hasn't come to

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Speaker 7: the OTAs and I think he should have. But they

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Speaker 7: need to give him what he's asking for. Look, they

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Speaker 7: held what was his name?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 7: What was the one that I said the I can't

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Speaker 7: think of it.

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Speaker 2: In any event, What's what's the point you're trying to make, Cindy.

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Speaker 7: The point I'm trying to make is they need to

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Speaker 7: give Cook what he.

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Speaker 4: What he deserves.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, what he's been playing for. So you guys

601
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Speaker 7: six months ago said no, no, no, he's got a

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Speaker 7: gear before his contract. Well, look what he's doing. He's

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Speaker 7: not showing up to the OTAs.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I get it. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: this Cindy, how good will the Bills be without him?

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Speaker 7: You know what, I think? He contributes a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, how good are they going to be without him?

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Speaker 7: Von Miller they kept for how many years?

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Speaker 4: And he was useless?

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Speaker 7: And I said that too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if he's useless, but I get

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Speaker 1: your point because he got hurt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, he just never did anything and never came to

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Speaker 7: fruition with this playing.

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Speaker 1: So how might James Cook be different?

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Speaker 7: James Cook has produced a lot. He has really really comes.

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Speaker 8: Floorwards.

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Speaker 7: He's been getting better every year he makes the plays.

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Speaker 7: So that's all I wanted to say.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, fair enough, Siddy. I don't think it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a case of the Bill's not

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Speaker 2: valuing James Cook. They clearly value him as a player.

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Speaker 2: I just think what their value is and what James's

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: value is on himself are two different things, and clearly

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Speaker 2: there's too much distance between those two values to get

627
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Speaker 2: some somewhere in the middle and find some middle ground

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Speaker 2: to get a deal done. So to just arbitrarily, it's

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Speaker 2: easy as a fan, Cindy, and I don't mean any

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Speaker 2: offense by this. It's easy as a fan to say,

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Speaker 2: sign him for what he wants. Well, if the Bills

632
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Speaker 2: and every other NFL team did that, every one of

633
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: them would be over the cap by one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Just get oh, how.

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Speaker 1: Much do you need?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, no problems, let me write the check. How

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Speaker 2: much do you want?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, Like it doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: Not only they'd be one hundred million over the cap,

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Speaker 1: they'd have three players on their team. Yeah. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody wants to see James Cook not here,

644
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Speaker 1: and they don't want to see him here unhappy. If

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, if I'm James Cook, as hard as

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Speaker 1: it is to hear, I know, I've got to come

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Speaker 1: in and play and play well. If but leading up

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: to training camp and the regular season and once that

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Speaker 1: starts and you're you've got to be in the building

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Speaker 1: and you got to be going hard. You got to

651
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Speaker 1: give the team everything you gave them last year and more.

652
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Speaker 1: You've got to do it up until that, up until

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Speaker 1: training camp, up until regular season and men mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 1: I would be in and do all of that, but

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Speaker 1: only that what's what's required and when they when I

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Speaker 1: when they line me up, I give them everything I've

657
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Speaker 1: got because at the end of it, I know I'm

658
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Speaker 1: gonna be on a really good team. I'm gonna have

659
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Speaker 1: opportunities that A ton of running backs around this, a

660
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Speaker 1: ton of starting running backs who get a lot more

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Speaker 1: touches than me, who get a lot more receptions and

662
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Speaker 1: targets than me, would kill for the opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: in the spot that I'm in. And if I don't

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Speaker 1: kill it in this spot, there's not going to be

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Speaker 1: another spot that is going to allow me more opportunity

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Speaker 1: or better opportunity, maybe more opportunity, more touches, more receive,

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Speaker 1: more targets, all that. But there's there's no better situation

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Speaker 1: for James Cook than the one right here. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm him, I disappear when it's voluntary, when it's mandatory,

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Speaker 1: show up and show up in a big way. That's

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Speaker 1: what I would do. I would put my best face

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Speaker 1: forward and make the best of it. I know he

673
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Speaker 1: has outperformed a rookie contract for a second round pick

674
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, for a running back, but by the

675
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Speaker 1: same token, he's playing behind an offensive line that lost

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Speaker 1: one game to one starter last year and for two

677
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Speaker 1: years in a row. That's the only time they've lost

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Speaker 1: time for starters. They've got an outstanding offensive line, they've

679
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Speaker 1: got an MVP at quarterback, and they scored more points

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Speaker 1: than any team in the league through the regular and

681
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Speaker 1: postseason last year, scored more points than anybody. You've got

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Speaker 1: to make Hay in that environment. You've got to make

683
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Speaker 1: yourself legendary on that offense. The opportunities you get. Don't

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Speaker 1: blow it by coming here unready to play, or by

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Speaker 1: missing that opportunity by sitting out. You've got to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. As hard as it is to hear,

687
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Speaker 1: you've got to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones where we're asking you

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Speaker 2: which defensive lineman will lead the charge this season for

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00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: the Bills and to Gary on a sale, what do

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Speaker 2: you got for us? Gary?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I all do. I hope it's for so

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Speaker 8: Uh that's what we need to do it. I mean,

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Speaker 8: they're paying him for it, and he's their biggest, strongest,

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Speaker 8: best defensive player on the line and not with those

696
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Speaker 8: rotations of defensive tackles. I think he's gonna produce. I

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Speaker 8: think he needs to. They're gonna win. He needs to

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Speaker 8: be the he needs to one of the leads the

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Speaker 8: charge to mocket and he's he's healthy. Bosa gets hurt

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Speaker 8: all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and he did it last year Gary,

702
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Speaker 2: as we mentioned earlier. I mean, he led the team

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Speaker 2: in sacks, tackles for loss, quarterback hits, and forced fumbles.

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Speaker 2: So he did it last year and the team is

705
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Speaker 2: thirteen and four. The problem was, once they got to

706
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Speaker 2: the postseason, it didn't look like opposing quarterbacks were under

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Speaker 2: a ton of duress, with maybe the exception of Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: They got to Lamar, he had a costly fumble and

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Speaker 2: a turnover and it swung that game. Outside of him,

710
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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks look comfortable for too much of the game in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You think you're gonna beat Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati

713
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Speaker 1: Bengals without a pass rush and their offensive line is

714
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Speaker 1: compared to the Bills, their offensive lines and atrocity, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play against those if you can't take advantage

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Speaker 1: of that, which the it's questionable. What are the Bills

717
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Speaker 1: could If you can't take advantage of that, they'll carve

718
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Speaker 1: you up. I don't care who you got playing in

719
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Speaker 1: the DBS in the defensive backfield, So you're gonna be

720
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Speaker 1: in these games against these top notch teams. The Bills

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Speaker 1: play six playoff teams from a year ago on their

722
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Speaker 1: schedule this year, and they're they're all divisions. It's a

723
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Speaker 1: wrecking the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Eagles, Tampa Bay, Houston, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: They got them all. So you need those guys to

725
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Speaker 1: show up. I do like the point Gary Maid though

726
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Speaker 1: they've got some young guys rotating. That looks like they're

727
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Speaker 1: gonna have young guys rotating in a defensive tackle. They

728
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Speaker 1: need a veteran guy to come in there and say, listen,

729
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: this is how it's gonna be. Let's go. Rousseau would

730
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Speaker 1: be a great candidate for that. Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: He just signed the extension, you know, this offseason.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if they if they could just put up.

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Speaker 2: The money now, you put up the next level of.

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Speaker 1: Production, right, if they hire got the right guys, I

735
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Speaker 1: will never forget it. Peyton Manning signed up back in

736
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Speaker 1: the day, signed a fifty million his second contracts like

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Speaker 1: fifty three million dollars or something like one hundred three million,

738
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Speaker 1: something like it is, and people were unbel it was

739
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Speaker 1: like oh my gosh. And they and they sit to

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Speaker 1: a sit down interview with Peyton and they go, what

741
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Speaker 1: do you do after you sign a contract? Lot? And

742
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Speaker 1: he says, I'm gonna go earn it. I thought that

743
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Speaker 1: was it was a really smart answer, really smart answer.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear too many guys say it though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make them happy they I'm gonna make

747
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Speaker 1: it look like a bargain. Let's go. You'd love to

748
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: see have a guy life. You pay the right guys,

749
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Speaker 1: that's the way they feel. I'm gonna make them so

750
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Speaker 1: glad they paying me this money. That's that's not everybody's

751
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: like that. Let's face it.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but more of

753
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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back. Which defensive lineman

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: will lead the charge this season for the Bills? You

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: tell us next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: co Loid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

758
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: with you. Which defensive lineman will lead the charge this

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Speaker 2: season for the Bills. Someone whose production will be going

760
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: nuts And you'll sit there at the end of the season,

761
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Speaker 2: going that guy is the alpha of this group, and

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. Eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board one eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. And to the phones we go,

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Speaker 2: and to Ali in Denver, what's up, Ali?

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Speaker 9: How's it going?

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Speaker 7: Fellows?

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Speaker 10: Things for taking my call?

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 10: I think the way I'm thinking about this is, you know,

771
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Speaker 10: because we rotate so heavily. I mean, you said what

772
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Speaker 10: Ed played like sixty seven percent of the snaps. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I don't know that we're necessarily going to have like

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Speaker 10: a clear guy who's like the dude until maybe the

775
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Speaker 10: end of the season the playoffs. But the way that

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Speaker 10: I'm kind of envisioning it is, you know, we know

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Speaker 10: what we have with our our existing guys, but I'm wondering, like,

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Speaker 10: you know, TJ. Sanders, Dean Walker, you know, if one

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Speaker 10: of them comes in and you know, takes Lamar down

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Speaker 10: or Patrick Mahomes down or whatever, you know, in a

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Speaker 10: playoff game, you know, because we've you know, given them

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Speaker 10: time to develop and they kind of become that dude.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that maybe the statuet will reflect it

784
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Speaker 10: numbers wise, but I'm really really anxious to see what

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Speaker 10: those guys look like. And obviously we have really strong

786
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Speaker 10: vent leadership and we know that they are consistent producers.

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Speaker 10: But I'm going to be excited to see what the

788
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Speaker 10: rookies can look like at the end of the year.

789
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Speaker 10: And you know, maybe they are the difference that one

790
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Speaker 10: splash play that we need to to get to Santa Clara.

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Speaker 10: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's a good point. Ali. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It brings me to the point where, yes, it's tough

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Dion Walker or TJ. Sanders to

795
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Speaker 1: come in.

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Speaker 2: I'll forget land and Jackson.

797
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: Landon Jackson and last year Dwayne Carter, any of those

798
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Speaker 1: guys come in. And it's not so much about maybe

799
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Speaker 1: putting up a twelve SAX season or fifteen SAX season

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Speaker 1: from the defensive tackle spot. But you know when you're in,

801
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: when you're in the season and you're in your opening

802
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: night of the year and you're play the Baltimore Ravens

803
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football when you need it, one of

804
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: those guys comes through. And then later on when you're

805
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: you're playing New England at home and New England scrappy

806
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: and you need to play one of those guys, the

807
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Speaker 1: same guy steps up and makes that play, and then

808
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: later on you're in You're Kansas City at home and

809
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: you gotta have it and want the same guy again

810
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: shows up. Maybe they're not getting twenty sacks, but they

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Speaker 1: get four sacks that are game winning. They're they're putting

812
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: games away guys. Yeah, and when you, let's face it,

813
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Speaker 1: you get the end of the season and you know,

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Speaker 1: we had you know, Peyton Manning came in town the

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Speaker 1: other you know, a month ago and was doing a

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00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about the Bills curse about not

817
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: being able to get to the super Bowl. Maybe they

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00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: don't lose their last game of the season again. Maybe

819
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: they just keep winning because a guy shows up at

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Speaker 1: the right minute and the right moment on the right play.

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Speaker 1: I like that philosophy. Yeah, maybe you don't need a

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Speaker 1: guy that's gonna have a seventeen and have sex like

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00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: a Trey Hendrickson. But you guy that got a guy

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Speaker 1: that's got seven of them and four or five of

825
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Speaker 1: them are game winners. Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: To Alan in Lancaster next, what's up, Alan?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Hey, my call is somewhat a development of what

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Speaker 11: the previous call had called about that.

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Speaker 9: While it's very easy to pick Greg Russo because he

830
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Speaker 9: has been for the best the best tons of alignment,

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Speaker 9: I would rather talk about what could be and I

832
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Speaker 9: wanted to focus on TJ. Sanders, and TJ. Sanders has

833
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Speaker 9: an asset that I think is particularly important to the

834
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Speaker 9: Bills because he is able to maneuver well in the interior.

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Speaker 9: And while we always talk about the offensive line as

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Speaker 9: being a unit, the interior defensive line is also a

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Speaker 9: unit unto itself. And where I am thinking is that TJ.

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Speaker 9: Sanders is a very good compliment to Ed Oliver, and

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Speaker 9: Ed Oliver, in my opinion, when they drafted him, I

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Speaker 9: had in my mind Aaron Donald, and of course I'm

841
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 9: that's a disappointment, and who is Aaron Donald anyway?

842
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 4: No one else.

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Speaker 9: But at any rate, what I do foresee is a

844
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Speaker 9: possibility is that the interior between TJ. Sanders and Ed

845
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Speaker 9: Oliver can synergistically work together where both are more than

846
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Speaker 9: the sum of its parts. And I've seen the potential

847
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 9: are really what this all is about, anyway, and that's

848
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Speaker 9: rushing to quarterback particularly, and I see that the interior

849
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Speaker 9: and pushing the quarterback off of his spot, pushing him back,

850
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 9: putting pressure through the middle of the line on the

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Speaker 9: defense have a greatly desired effect where they could team

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00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 9: up and become like a team of sharks going after

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Speaker 9: the quarterback. Okay, and that's what I would like to

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00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 9: see happening.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a good call, Allen. Yeah, I mean,

856
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: I look, interior pressure has value. It's why defensive tackles

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00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: are so coveted, and it's why their average annual salary

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00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: has gone through the roof over the last ten to

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Speaker 2: fifteen years. I mean, when it no longer became necessary

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Speaker 2: to have a giant, space eating nose tackle in the

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Speaker 2: middle of your defensive front, and it became more of

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00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: a passing league, the players that were the penetrating get

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Speaker 2: up the field, force a quarterback or keep a quarterback

864
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: from stepping up in the pocket or flushing them out

865
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: to the edges became valuable. It's players like TJ. Sanders

866
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: and Oliver that you're after now. And the Bills have

867
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: two such players and maybe have a third. And Dion

868
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: Walker will have to see he's a bigger guy, but

869
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: he has penetrating ability as well.

870
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: And with the rotational philosophy, we talk about all the

871
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: time up front. It may have to look like you

872
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: say you'd like it to look, Allen. You may have

873
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: to have guys who are better than the sum of

874
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: their parts. It may have to be that kind of

875
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: chemistry that and whatever player is the catalyst that elevates

876
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: that to the spot, maybe the guy we're talking about.

877
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: But you're right, I think it's hard, with the philosophy

878
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: of guys going in and out and in and out,

879
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: in and out, to have one of those guys. It's

880
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: going to be like, you know, a star quite frankly,

881
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna get enough reps.

882
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we return, second hour

883
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: of the show is going to begin with Pro Football

884
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: Focus NFL analyst John Costco gonna break down some of

885
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: the PFF cornerback, tight end, and quarterback ratings upcoming for

886
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season. We'll also talk a little

887
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: Max Hairston with him when we return. Here On One

888
00:50:30,360 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

889
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: These One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health. All Right,

890
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Hour number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

891
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: with you and pleased to bring on board. Now NFL

892
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: analysts for Pro Football Focus, John Costco joining us is

893
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: we wanted to kind of have him help us break

894
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: down some of these rankings at the specific positions as

895
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: PFF is known to do. So John, first, thanks for

896
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: joining us. Second, I wanted to leap right into the

897
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: cornerback rankings because the Bills, you know, had to make

898
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: some additions there this offseason, and yet despite that, two

899
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: of their corners are in the top twenty here in

900
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: Christian Benford and Tarren Johnson. So I don't know, I'm

901
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: kind of curious, being on the outside looking in, what

902
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: do you feel is like the general consensus on Buffalo's

903
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: cornerback contingent now knowing they've added you know, Tredevious White

904
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: and Dane Jackson back to the fold to come back

905
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: for their second stints, and then Max Harrison Duran Strong

906
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: in the draft to go in there with Taron Johnson

907
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: and Christian Benford.

908
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me on. I think Benford

909
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: is really underrated, and I think as a whole, the

910
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: Bills have some work to do, especially you know, and

911
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: you know, outside of him, Karen Johnson was injured last year,

912
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: and he didn't. He didn't have a great year in

913
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. But Benford for me was one of

914
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: the better cornerbacks in the NFL last year and for

915
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: a large stretch of the season was the best cornerback

916
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: in the NFL. I think he faulted a little bit

917
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: toward at the end of the season, but he's been

918
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: excellent the last two years. His coverage grade of eighty

919
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: seven point one at PFF is the fourth best among

920
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: cornerbacks in the NFL. He stays sticky in coverage and

921
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean he's a really sure tackler, so you know,

922
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: and you know PFF grades across the board. He's just

923
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: been excellent. So I think Terren Johnson he's gonna have

924
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: a bounce back year. I think he's a really quality player.

925
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: And you know they're there. The Bills had some issues

926
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: last year in the secondary, but it wasn't It wasn't

927
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: Benford for sure. Uh and Taron Johnson I think was

928
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: as an injury thing.

929
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: How much of in your evaluation process to go because

930
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, you get every cornerback end, every player gets

931
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: criticized and praised at the same time. Guys like Sauce

932
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Gardner great coverage guy, but he shies away from contact.

933
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: How much how much of the tackling and the physicality

934
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: the sport play into the evaluations for these guys.

935
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: Well, for quarterbacks, they're most you know, their priority is

936
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: to stop the receiver from catching the football and then

937
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: if they do, to obviously stop them as quickly as possible,

938
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 3: and and Sauce Gardner does that as better than anybody

939
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But since he's entered the league, Uh,

940
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: does he shy away from tackles? Sometimes? Sure he does,

941
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 3: But when backs throw his way, there's almost nobody better

942
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: than breaking up that pass and preventing a completion from happening.

943
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: He's the best in the NFL since entering the league

944
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: and completion percentage allowed, and he's the best at forcing

945
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 3: incompletions as well. So not just he is he breaking

946
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: up the pass, but he's also like preventing the receiver

947
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: from getting to the ball even if he's not specifically

948
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: in his hands on the ball. So he's been phenomenal

949
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: sticking in coverage. Yeah, maybe when the ball is and

950
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: you know he's trying to make a tackle and stuff

951
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: like that. He's not the greatest, but I think that

952
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: the most important thing is for cornerbacks to prevent passes

953
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: being thrown their way, and when they do, to prevent

954
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: them from being complete. And he's the best in the

955
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: NFL at that.

956
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned completion percentage against, and that was a

957
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: glaring number for the Bills last year. I think it

958
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: was fifth highest in the league. It was like sixty

959
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: eight and a half percent, and a lot of that

960
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: had to do with the lack of duress on opposing quarterbacks.

961
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: The Bills try to address both the front of their

962
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: defense in the back end of their defense. I don't

963
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: think it necessarily gets added into your PFF grades, but

964
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: it looks like what they've done up front should help

965
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: the guys on the back end a little bit more,

966
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: at least from the standpoint of maybe not having a

967
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: cover as long as they did you know on snaps

968
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: last year.

969
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't. We don't specifically go all right, there

970
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: there are pass rush isn't as good, So then we

971
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: adjust the grating for the for the player. If you know,

972
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: if a quarterback has four seconds in the pocket and

973
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: finds this guy deep downfield, and say the cornerback is

974
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: the one that busted that coverage or at least got

975
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 3: beat out deep downfield. You know, we're still grading those

976
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: guys accordingly, but we can make adjustments based on like

977
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: how how long in terms of like, you know, after

978
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: the fact and saying, hey, this guy had had a

979
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: bad situation to deal with last year because of a

980
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: porous uh, you know, a really bad pass rush. You know,

981
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: we can make adjustments after the fact, but when we're

982
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 3: in the moment you're looking at it's like a guy

983
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 3: got beat. A guy got beat regardless of of a guy.

984
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: You know, the pass rushers getting there in two seconds

985
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: or four seconds. If you get beat regardless, it doesn't matter.

986
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: So does does a pass rush help a secondary? Absolutely

987
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: does it. Does a good secondary help a past rest?

988
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: Same thing, right, So you can look at those things

989
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: after the fact, and obviously coach coaches are going to

990
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: want to make adjustments for their guys if they can

991
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: hold up, you know, how long do they hold up

992
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: in coverage versus you know, hey, a guy's not going

993
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback and you know two seconds,

994
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: maybe the pass rush is going to take two and

995
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: a half seconds or three seconds or whatever. If you

996
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: if you have a cornerback that can hold up a

997
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: little bit longer, obviously that's better. But again, I think

998
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 3: like from a grading perspective, we're not really looking at

999
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 3: that of like, well this was this was four seconds

1000
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: down the field and now he got beat. You got beat,

1001
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: you got beat, right, So I think at the end

1002
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: of the day, you've got to get your job done,

1003
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: and obviously a better pass rush will help help the secondary.

1004
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: Who is the who's the best most underrated corner in

1005
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: your opinion? I know, because you got the guys like

1006
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: the well, like, uh was the guy the kid from Chicago,

1007
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, great corner, but you know, he's on a

1008
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: team that doesn't win many games. People don't see him

1009
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: on prime time. He's not a name at the top

1010
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: of everybody's list, But there are guys like him out

1011
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: there who are top notch players playing in a situation

1012
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: where nobody ever knows.

1013
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think DJ Reid is probably that guy that's

1014
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: probably the most underrated in the NFL. And he's a

1015
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: guy that has been consistent ever since he's entered the league.

1016
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: He's great in you know, seventy two plus in coverage

1017
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: every single year of his career, and I think he's

1018
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: he's a guy and he was just signed by Detroit

1019
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: this offseason, so he's going over there to help them

1020
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: who had their injury issues this past year. But I

1021
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: think with Reid, he was probably overshadowed by the fact that,

1022
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, Sauce Gardner was was also locking it down

1023
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: on the other side of the field. And I think

1024
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: he does a really excellent job, and I think he's

1025
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: he's he's underrated in my opinion from a from a

1026
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: you know, our grading perspective. He's been a top you know, six'

1027
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: five guy in THE nfl the past couple of, seasons

1028
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: AND i think he's gonna get his his, worth you,

1029
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: know In detroit and we'll, see we'll see if was

1030
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: he a product of maybe saucebying out there and that

1031
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: defense for a couple of years was really, good or

1032
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: is he a guy that you, know doesn't doesn't need

1033
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: that help and he's been that, Good so there isn't

1034
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: there is a factor in that where like you, know

1035
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: from a grading, perspective maybe you do grade a little

1036
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: bit better based on your. Situation BUT i Think reid

1037
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: has been, phenomenal you, know the past couple of years.

1038
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: For, sure pivoting to the tight end. Position you, Know

1039
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: Dalton kincaid comes back down to earth after a record

1040
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: breaking at least in terms of team records tight end

1041
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: rookie season with seventy three receptions in twenty twenty. Three last,

1042
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: year battles two knee injuries and a collarbone, injury and you,

1043
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: know doesn't match the, production doesn't even come. Close and

1044
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: yet still number ten on Your Guys rankings, list which

1045
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: might surprise Some bills fans quite, frankly how do you square? That?

1046
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i MEAN i think so when we grade, him,

1047
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: right he actually created slightly better in his second season

1048
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: than he did in his rookie, year and you, know

1049
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: we take into, consideration you, know you, know the production

1050
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: is the. Production, Right he missed you, know four games

1051
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: and parts of other games because of his. Injury but you,

1052
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: know on a he was targeted twenty fewer times last

1053
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: year than he was in as a. Rookie obviously caught

1054
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: three fewer, passes but for, HIM i think he's still

1055
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: on a per target. Basis he was, doing he was playing,

1056
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: well AND i think you, know he only dropped four

1057
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: passes last. Year, yeah the yardage wasn't, there and everything like.

1058
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: That but you, know he forced more miss tackles per

1059
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: catch this year than he did last, year had more explosive.

1060
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: Plays you, know he had ten in twenty twenty four

1061
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: versus twelve and twenty twenty. Three and you're talking about

1062
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: missing all those. Games you, know on a per per catch,

1063
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: basis he's breaking you, know off bigger. Games so if

1064
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: he has a full season where he can be, HEALTHY

1065
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: i think you're going to see him to go back

1066
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: to those rookie numbers and maybe even surpass. Them you,

1067
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 3: know yards per reception was highed in his second, year

1068
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: SO i think the injuries kind of took its. Toll

1069
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: but when he was getting the, ball he was very

1070
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: effective with the ball in his.

1071
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: Hands give us a little idea because The bills kind

1072
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: of bang their heads against The Kansas City Chiefs wall

1073
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: every year at the end of the, season and, Notably

1074
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: Travis kelcey had a down. Year they were eleven and

1075
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: oh coming Into. Buffalo buffalo gave him their first. Loss

1076
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: they were had they had an incredibly good, season But

1077
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: Travis kelcey was notably absent from. That what did you

1078
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: notice about his play and where it might be. Headed, Yeah.

1079
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: KELSEY i think is he slowed down AND i started

1080
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: to see that in twenty twenty, three but he just

1081
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: doesn't have the same juice and ability to just like

1082
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: there'd be a game changer like he was in the

1083
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: prime of his, career and you, know in the prime

1084
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 3: of his career is not even that far. Away BUT

1085
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: i think for, him it's the age is catching up to.

1086
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: Him he's not quite as explosive and quick out of

1087
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: his breaks as he once. Was he's still very. EFFECTIVE

1088
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: i think he's still like a top tight ten tight,

1089
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: end BUT i think his reign at the, top you,

1090
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: know you, know the past couple of years before this,

1091
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: year he's, been you, know a top two. GUY i

1092
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: think that that that's coming to an end for. Him

1093
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: BUT i think he's he's still a good tight, end

1094
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: just not that elite level as he once. Was AND

1095
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: i think last year kind of showed that where, uh you,

1096
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: know grading, wise it was the worst season of his,

1097
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: career AND i, think you, know you, know there could

1098
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: be a bounce back year in play for. Him, obviously

1099
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: the chief situation around him was not great in terms

1100
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: of the receivers going. Down BUT i think what we

1101
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: saw from a from a film, perspective and what he's

1102
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: in an athletic, Ability he's just not what he once.

1103
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: Was the last. One And i've got for, You, john

1104
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: and we'll give credit where it's. Due you actually Mocked

1105
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: Max harriston to The bills in one of your mock,

1106
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: drafts and you, know sure, enough there he goes thirtieth.

1107
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: OVERALL i would argue that he probably would not have

1108
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: lasted that long had his coverage grades been, better you,

1109
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: know in twenty twenty, four or at least more in

1110
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: line with what they were in twenty twenty three according

1111
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: to your guys. NUMBERS i, mean he went from an

1112
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: eighty one to eight overall in twenty twenty three down

1113
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: to a fifty five to one in his final year At.

1114
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: Kentucky were there any things that stuck out in, particular you,

1115
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: know in terms of reaching that lower metric than the

1116
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: one he had in twenty twenty three that compromised his.

1117
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: Rating, Yeah andrey kind of took a play part for. Him. Right,

1118
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: so when you get, injured and especially for, like just

1119
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: if you're a physical cornerback like he, is and especially

1120
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: if it's in his upper, body that's gonna be a

1121
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: detriment to you and you're not going to be able

1122
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: to do the things that you need to be able to.

1123
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: Do you, Know so when one of the things that

1124
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: at the cornerback position to understand is it's really kind of.

1125
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: Volatile Right if if you can be in tight coverage

1126
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: and you make the play on the ball versus not

1127
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 3: making the play on the, ball there's you, know that's

1128
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: a difference of potentially a thirty yard game or something

1129
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: like that versus a past, breakup because you, know sometimes

1130
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: the ball was just a perfect ball and there's nothing

1131
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: you can do about, it and sometimes when you're you

1132
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 3: are in tight coverage that, ball you get your hand

1133
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: on that. Ball so there's there's a few things that

1134
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: come into play for these, cornerbacks you, know for when

1135
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: when they're able to make the. Plays you, know he

1136
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: had five interceptions in his in his twenty twenty three.

1137
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: Season he only had one last, year so get you,

1138
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: know some of that is a bit luck in terms

1139
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: of maybe getting targeted when you are jumping the route

1140
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: and you read it out correctly and sometimes they, hey,

1141
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: this we know this guy has stud let's avoid throwing his.

1142
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: Way he only had twenty two targets in twenty twenty,

1143
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: four you, know versus sixty seven as a you, know

1144
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: in his sophomore. Year so there's a lot that kind

1145
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: of goes into that wasn't he wasn't challenged as much as,

1146
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: often you, know as often he was as a as a,

1147
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: sophomore and therefore his grade kind of suffers that. Way

1148
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: and of the public facing grade that we, have you,

1149
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: know one of the one of the grades THAT i

1150
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: talk about in the article THAT i you, know the

1151
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: cornerback ranking ARTICLE i have is Our advanced coverage, grade

1152
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: which isn't a published a publicly published grade that we have,

1153
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: currently and that takes into consideration where where you're sticking

1154
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: it sticky and coverage on plays that weren't, targeted, Right

1155
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: so if you're if you're if you're preventing a past

1156
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: from going your. Way our old coverage, grade the one

1157
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: that's publicly, FACING i call it her old, one but

1158
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: it's the public and facing. One it doesn't actually kind

1159
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: of take that into consideration of like you had a

1160
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: positive play on this on this, play, Right so the

1161
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: advanced one kind of, does and it's you, know we're

1162
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: WE'RE i think we're in the works of making that

1163
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: more publicly. Available but you know he. Did he still

1164
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: is was sticky in. Coverage it's just when you're not

1165
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: targeted as, much you have fewer opportunities to gain those positive.

1166
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: Plays, john good. Stuff really appreciate you spending some time with. Us,

1167
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: yeah my.

1168
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: Pleasure steve And, chris you guys have a great rest of.

1169
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 3: Today it's always happy to talk ball and especially the.

1170
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: Rankings all, right thanks, Again, john appreciate. It That's Pro

1171
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: Football FOCUS nfl Analyst John costco joining us kind of

1172
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: spelling out some of the cornerback rankings BY pff and

1173
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: tight end as. Well we touched on didn't get over to.

1174
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: Quarterback but for people, Wondering josh was number four on

1175
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: the list from last going into the.

1176
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: Twenty they have him ranked In Tears elite And josh

1177
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: is up there with, well let's just say he's With

1178
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: joe And pat And lamar And, josh which is right

1179
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: where you'd expect, him, Right so there's not that's not

1180
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: the order they came. IN i think it. WAS i

1181
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: think it Was, Pat, Joe Lamar, josh or maybe it

1182
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: Was Pat, Lamar Joe. Josh i'm Not, yeah but there you.

1183
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: Go he was up. There it's all he really need to.

1184
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: Know and, yeah and he was THE. Mvp by the,

1185
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: WAY i don't know if you heard that's.

1186
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: Right he was resuming our topic of discussion for you.

1187
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: Today which defensive lineman will lead the charge this? Season

1188
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: for The? Bill we Saw Greg russeau kind of lead

1189
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: all categories last year and zachs tackles for lost quarterback

1190
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: hits and forced. Fumbles who leads the charge this? Year

1191
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: eight h three zero five point fifty won eighty eight

1192
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: five point fifty two five. Fifty that's the number to

1193
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 2: jump on board To dennis And Niagara, falls who's been waiting?

1194
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: Patiently what do you got Fors? Dennis thanks for taking my.

1195
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 9: Call. Guys.

1196
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: Sure my opinion is.

1197
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 9: Because we have such a good defensive, line the linebackers

1198
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 9: are going to show up and be the leaders on the.

1199
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 4: Defense all.

1200
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: Right so you, so are you expecting like big time

1201
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: production From bernard And? Milano is? That is that what

1202
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: you're getting?

1203
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 9: At, yes because of the defensive line is going to

1204
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 9: be so big it's can take up everybody and they're

1205
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 9: going to be able to blitz.

1206
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: Or kind of keep those guys. Clean i'm guessing so

1207
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: they can run ahead and make. Plays all. Right that's

1208
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: a different way to look at, it for. Sure, YEAH

1209
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: i was trying to think of you, know think About.

1210
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: Bernard his breakout season was his first year as a.

1211
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: Starter Three he had like one hundred and forty three.

1212
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: Tackles he had, interceptions forced. Fumbles even last.

1213
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: Year he remember he had the game ceiling interception against

1214
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: The chiefs. Yep and then he also had the force

1215
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: fumble in the playoff game against The ravens when he

1216
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: punched it out Of Mark andrews and kind of turned everything.

1217
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: Around plays like, That and of Course, MILANO i, mean

1218
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: His moniker is timely big, plays, right he Had he

1219
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: had a fumble recovery in a GAME i was watching

1220
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: the other. Day what was? It it? Was we talked

1221
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: about the game that was getting, replayed The detroit. Game

1222
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: somebody Al Monross Saint brown came across the, middle caught

1223
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: it and held it away from his body for three,

1224
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: steps gotten knocked. Out milana was on. It those two

1225
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: guys are the guys on this defense that are the

1226
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: always around, it making it happen kind of. Guys they are.

1227
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: Playmakers they're not like they're not. Grinders they are flash,

1228
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: players impact players who make the other team make mistakes

1229
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: or take advantage of a mistake that the other team.

1230
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: MAKES i think that is and that's one of the

1231
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: reasons as. Well this, defense for as unpredictable as it

1232
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: is as a stat this defense is top three or,

1233
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: four top five for sure every single year in.

1234
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: Turnovers, yeah and they were second in the league last

1235
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 2: year in turnover, margin second in the league in total.

1236
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: Interceptions those two guys are a big part of, it

1237
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,440
Speaker 1: a big part of, it AND i like their mentality.

1238
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: There they are mentally it seems you just get the

1239
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: idea that when things like that, happen those guys are

1240
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: seeing it and they're way ahead of it. Mentally that's

1241
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: WHAT i get From lano And. Bernard maybe they'll have

1242
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: another year like.

1243
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: That maybe it's. Possible it'd be nice if they could

1244
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: play a little bit more, together you. Know, Obviously milano's

1245
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: injuries have kind of compromised them as a. TANDEM i,

1246
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: MEAN i remember all the way back to twenty twenty

1247
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: three started the. Season it's their first year as a

1248
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: tandem as, starters and the team is leading the league

1249
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: in takeaways heading into The london game In week five

1250
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: and Then milano breaks his leg and that was the

1251
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: end of. That and then unfortunately there was a similar

1252
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: outcome last, year you, know in leading up to the regular.

1253
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: Season it's after training. Camp we're back here at One

1254
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: bill's drive and non contact ruptures a bicep. Tendon same,

1255
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: deal can't keep them together on the. Field so hopefully

1256
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 2: that changes this year and they can get back to

1257
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: those splash playmaking ways as a. Duo so we'll. See

1258
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: let's check out the tweets sheet brought to you By

1259
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1260
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: Bills want to see what you have to say. There

1261
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: which defensive lineman will lead the charge this season for The.

1262
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Bills here's a wild. Card jacob Says Javon solomon will

1263
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: lead the team in. Sacks, WOW i like. IT i

1264
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: was you were bullish on him last?

1265
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: Year, YES i, was and he got on the field a,

1266
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: little not too. Much but.

1267
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: He's sacking a force fumble here in a home, game

1268
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: in a game that was decided. Early it might have

1269
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: been The jacksonville, game The monday night. GAME i want

1270
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: to say is when it.

1271
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: HAPPENED i like the way he. PLAYS i like his.

1272
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: EXPLOSIVENESS i like him coming off the. Edge he seems

1273
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: to have a feel for, it you, know kind of

1274
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: a creativity about him that gives him a. Chance i've

1275
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: always liked.

1276
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: Him he's a, guy you. KNOW i, know about a

1277
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 2: week or so, ago we were talking About Dwayne carter

1278
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: and how he must feel with two defensive tackles. Drafted

1279
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: let's not forget That Joey bosa got signed And Landon

1280
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: jackson got. Drafted at the position That Javon solomon, plays

1281
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: he's probably feeling. Similar it's To Dwayne.

1282
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: Carter it's sobering when that, Happens it really. Is it's.

1283
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: Sobering you gotta, think oh, gosh you, know because there's

1284
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: no question it says something about. You at least that's

1285
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: the way it, feels, well, right even if it's not

1286
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: directly about.

1287
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: You, Yeah and he was fighting just to get on

1288
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: the active game day roster last, year and he's, Thinking,

1289
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: okay you, know get my rookie season under my, belt

1290
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: bigger and better this, Year i'm gonna get on the

1291
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: fifty three and be dressing, out you, know every game,

1292
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: day and then the draft comes. Along you, Know bosa

1293
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: gets signed and it's like man. Alive the competition just

1294
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: stepped up a couple of. Notches now the task is

1295
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: even more. Challenging, yeah that's, right but that's.

1296
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: Good that's good the.

1297
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: Way THE nfl cutthroat league as we. Know steve on

1298
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet, says after bolstering the interior of the defensive,

1299
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: LINE i feel Like groot will have the opportunity to

1300
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: truly thrive this. SEASON i think where people are Hoping

1301
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: rousseau gets to is double digit sack territory and maybe

1302
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: even A Pro, bowl like if he's doing that kind of. Production,

1303
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 2: LIKE i think that's What bill's fans are waiting to

1304
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: see out Of rousseau, more maybe more than, anything.

1305
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: A first Team Pro bowl selection in this BIG i,

1306
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: mean these, days it seems like everybody goes to The

1307
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: Pro bowl because nobody wants to play in, it and

1308
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: everybody says, no and then they. Go they got the

1309
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: fifth alternate playing, quarterback that kind of, Stuff so that.

1310
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Happens but, yeah they've all got the opportunity to thrive this.

1311
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: Season how much help each of them needs should be

1312
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: a secondary. Issue I'm i'm maybe showing my age WHICH

1313
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: i do once in a, WHILE i played with a

1314
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: guy who didn't need any help and didn't get any

1315
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: help until then when another guy showed up to give

1316
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: him some. Help that guy was the DEFENSIVE mvp because

1317
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: of the first. Guy so when you got a guy

1318
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: Like Bruce smith out, there who's a one a kind,

1319
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: ATHLETE i, mean you're you're lining up six or seven

1320
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: tackling dummies and you still got. Problems so the more

1321
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: help these, guys and certainly a good team is a

1322
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: good team and a lot the more good players you,

1323
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: have the better you're going to. Be but, man, there

1324
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: if you want to see somebody who's really really good

1325
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: you you don't have to look far if he's on your.

1326
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: TEAM i, mean this would be a ridiculous question back

1327
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: in the, day but it's a QUESTION i think. Now, well,

1328
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: YEAH i think for, two obviously we put on the.

1329
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: SHOW i, mean we both, CAN'T.

1330
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: I, Think but it's mainly for two. Reasons one That

1331
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: alpha hasn't shown up yet and two, philosophically the group

1332
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: rotates so much it's hard to pinpoint who that person could.

1333
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: Be and that's why we pose the question today BECAUSE

1334
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: i think it is a little nebulous as to who

1335
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: that will. Be and you, know one person's guest might

1336
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: be as good as anybody else's in determining who that,

1337
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: guy who it is that emerges and is the leader

1338
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: in production and in leading that group come season's. End

1339
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: we do have to take a break, here more thoughts

1340
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: on the tweet, sheet and maybe a little time for

1341
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: SOME nfl true false when we return here On One

1342
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: Bill's live presented By Colida, health it's S Buffalo Bills.

1343
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: Radio all, right back here On One Bill's, Live Chris,

1344
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasker with you and discussing who you believe

1345
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: will be the defensive alignment to leave the charge for

1346
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: The bills this season in terms of individual. Production who's

1347
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: gonna light it up this? Season eighth, three five point fifty,

1348
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: one eighty, eight five point fifty, two five Fifty joey

1349
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: on the tweet she says it's gonna Be Dion. Walker

1350
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: the young man is a, beast BUT. Tj sanders is

1351
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: not far. Behind we've got a couple of votes for

1352
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: some of the young. Pups Dion, WALKER. Tj, Sanders Dwayne.

1353
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: CARTER i gotta Say I'm i'm, very very excited to

1354
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: see these guys.

1355
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: Play you, Know Dwayne carter was derailed last year by

1356
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: a wrist. Injury you, know he's never he couldn't get

1357
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: back into the, saddle And Dian walker AND. Tj. Sanders

1358
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,839
Speaker 1: i'm very interested in seeing how they come out and emerge.

1359
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: It these guys they look great on you, know running

1360
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: around in shorts and doing all their. Drills they look very.

1361
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: Capable they look athletic enough they bring something to the.

1362
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: TABLE i want to see how they.

1363
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: Do, yeah and no one's really Mentioned Landon, jackson who

1364
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: defensive Coordinator Bobby babbage said yesterday has three down player.

1365
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: Potential probably not gonna play all three downs as a

1366
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: rookie because of the rotation and some of the other

1367
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 2: veterans on the, roster but three down player potential for

1368
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: one Land In, Jackson so don't think he should be

1369
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: dismissed out of hand either in this. Equation robbie on

1370
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet says Ed, oliver our new ends are

1371
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: going to keep quarterbacks in the pocket more often for

1372
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 2: cowboy ed to rope and. Wrangle what do you think

1373
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: about that, Thought.

1374
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: Well we thought it was going to happen with the

1375
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: addition Of vaughan and you, know the whole and it hasn't.

1376
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: Yet and the defensive tackles Around, ed you, know his,

1377
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: cohorts you, Know Daikwon jones is a good, Player Jordan

1378
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: phillips really good. Player but they were all you, know

1379
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: they all, had you, know ten years in the, league.

1380
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean this.

1381
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 2: Guy thinks the ends are going to keep the quarterbacks hemmed.

1382
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 5: In.

1383
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah my point by saying that about the other defensive tackles,

1384
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: is you Know ed's never really had, that, right they're

1385
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: trying to give it to. Him they're trying to give

1386
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: him some help out there and all, that Because ed's

1387
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that you wish the offensive team

1388
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: would single. Right AND i think one of the things,

1389
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: too is some of the quarterbacks The bills, play particularly

1390
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: division winners in the playoff, teams you get quarterbacks who

1391
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: don't just stand in the. Bar they can move, around

1392
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: and that precludes The bill's ability to run stunts up

1393
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: front because when you start crossing your defensive, line when

1394
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: we do the the acts where the outside guy comes

1395
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: in or the ox the, inside the outside guy comes

1396
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: in and there the, acts the inside guy goes. Out

1397
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: all you, know they cross and they, act and that

1398
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: leaves open running lanes and mobile quarterbacks take advantage of.

1399
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: That so The bills are a little bit reticent to do,

1400
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: that and it makes it tougher on your defensive line

1401
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: to get, home particularly from the. Interior opening it up

1402
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: with some guys who can other guys who can command double.

1403
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: Teams it's got to pay. Dividends it's got to pay,

1404
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: dividends you would.

1405
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 2: Think And i'm curious too if that can work the

1406
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: other way as, well because we were talking about it.

1407
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: Earlier you have penetrating up the, field defensive TACKLES. Tj,

1408
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: sanders Ed oliver maybe to a lesser, Extent Eon, walker

1409
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: and What Larry Ogan joby brings you when he gets.

1410
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 2: Back we'll have to. See do they create more opportunities

1411
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: for the guys on the edges by flushing the quarterback

1412
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: from the pocket out to the.

1413
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Edges, yeah it's pretty. Simple better players make you, better

1414
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: and you've got to feel that there's more potential in

1415
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: the room now than there has been in quite some

1416
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: time because of the guys they brought in that are

1417
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: brand new and the high. End If Joey bosa comes

1418
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: in and stays, healthy forget, it, Man it's gonna be.

1419
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: Awesome BUT i don't know that you'd be hard pressed

1420
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: to find somebody who has total faith in THAT.

1421
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 2: Jt on the, tweet she, SAYS i think everybody on

1422
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: THIS d line is going to eat McDermott has shown

1423
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: he likes to rotate the. LINE i Think oliver is

1424
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: going to explode this. Year with all the help we

1425
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: have around, him it's going to unleash a different beast in. Him,

1426
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: ALSO i Believe land And jackson will thrive. Here here's

1427
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: the first mention Of land And. Jackson it'll be interesting to.

1428
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: See we talk about it a. Lot it's it's a

1429
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: real thing at Least brownie AND i believe it's a real.

1430
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: Thing guys tend to thrive here on and off the.

1431
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: Field they play their best As Buffalo. Bills they're happiest

1432
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: when They're Buffalo, bills and they're the most productive As buffalo.

1433
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: Bills so if you've got guys who can't do it here,

1434
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: THAT i don't think they're going anywhere else and doing

1435
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: it a Lot Like Gabe davis is back on the

1436
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: street after one after signing a big. Contract back out

1437
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: on the. Street you, Know Tredavius white was an all

1438
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: pro corner back. Here now it was all. Pro now

1439
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: he got, INJURED i get, It but he was all

1440
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: pro at an elite, spot a money. Spot Dan, Jackson

1441
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Dane jackson is, YEAH i Mean Jordan phillips, went you

1442
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: came back.

1443
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: Twice.

1444
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah the list goes on and. On in The sean McDermott,

1445
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: era guys play their best, here and it's both a

1446
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: blessing and a curse because you get the most out

1447
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: of guys who would be just mediocre everyplace. Else so

1448
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: what are you really. Getting you get their top. End,

1449
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: yeah you get. It they're good. Pros but that's the

1450
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: that's their, end that's their high. End if you get

1451
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: a guy with elite talent and he comes in and

1452
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: thrives and all of a, sudden the guy you know

1453
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: in fifteen years or twenty, years you're slipping a gold

1454
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: jacket on the guy in that, situation, right that's what

1455
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: you're kind of shooting. For the problem, is you draft

1456
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: thirtieth every, year thirty first or twenty. Eighth you never

1457
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: get those guys unless you trade up twice and get

1458
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: him at number. Seven he turns out to be AN.

1459
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: Mvp right there you.

1460
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Go that'd be the exception to the.

1461
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: Rule exception to the.

1462
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 2: Rule let's spin it over to a LITTLE nfl true

1463
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: false HERE nfl true false presented By Patron, tequila the

1464
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: official tequila of The Buffalo. Bills Love This.

1465
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: Party true.

1466
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: False number, One Steve Daniel jones will beat Out Anthony

1467
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: richardson for The colts starting quarterback. Job true or.

1468
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: FALSE i would say. True there's a couple of factors

1469
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: in this. One Daniel jones runs AN nfl. Offense he's

1470
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: a mediocre, quarterback but he does think through, it and

1471
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: he's got, experience and he has done it at a

1472
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: playoff level with a lesser roster like all of The

1473
01:21:54,720 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: New York giants in two thousand whatever it was Three and,

1474
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: also on a more somber, note the owner just passed.

1475
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: Away Jim ersey just passed. Away there will, be in my,

1476
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: opinion probably less interference from the higher ups in that

1477
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: organization is to make the call as to who's going

1478
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: to start because of money or whatever. Else because of

1479
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: the investment of a first round draft Picking Anthony, richardson

1480
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: there's going to be less pressure from outside other than football. Considerations,

1481
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,799
Speaker 1: yeah to make that, call AND i Think Daniel jones

1482
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: is just going to be too steady and too consistent

1483
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: for the occasional flashes That Anthony richardson gives.

1484
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: You AND i think that is why we are right

1485
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 2: back where we were When Joe flacco was there as

1486
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: the veteran. Backup With, richardson it becomes a question of

1487
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: is the offense better off with a veteran who can

1488
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: make the offense, functional or are they better off With

1489
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: richardson who can make the offense special because of his

1490
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: unique physical. Gifts the challenge For richardson is being functional

1491
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: while also possessing the elite physical. Wowplays we know the

1492
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: wow plays are in. There the problem is can he

1493
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: do the other simple plays to stay on the, field

1494
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: move the, sticks and sustain. Drives to this, point he

1495
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: has not been able to do. That if he comes

1496
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: in and training camp in the preseason and he's matriculating

1497
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: the ball down the field and then there's two or

1498
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: three special plays then nobody else on the roster can, make,

1499
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: well then, yeah he's gonna be the. Starter short of,

1500
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: that he probably won't. BE i, mean let's not forget

1501
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: this is year three For Shane steichen the head, coach

1502
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: like it's gotta. Happen, yeah he's gonna go with what

1503
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: keeps the offense, FUNCTIONAL i, Think and If richardson can't do, that,

1504
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: yeah it will Be Daniel. Jones so for, Now i'll,

1505
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: say even THOUGH i have about as much faith In

1506
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Daniel jones as you.

1507
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Know, Well Daniel jones may make him functional in, smooth

1508
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: that's that doesn't mean they're gonna win. Games AND i

1509
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: get the allure making a change just for change his

1510
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: sake when you're not. Winning they may end up doing,

1511
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: That But Daniel jones is either going to be the

1512
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: last guy standing or the first guy out of the.

1513
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: Gate Could they're not going to be satisfied with the.

1514
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: PRODUCT i don't think in either. Case so whoever wins

1515
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: the job out of training, camp the hook is already

1516
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: in the. Hand so, yeah you know WHAT i.

1517
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Mean SO i mean in ALL i, mean as you,

1518
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Know i'm not a Huge Daniel jones. FAN i, MEAN

1519
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: i have about as much faith In Daniel jones AS

1520
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: i do and had two Tall jones playing. Quarterback But

1521
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: Anthony richardson hasn't given me any faith to believe in him.

1522
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: EITHER i mean the guy lost out to a thirty

1523
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: eight year Old Joe.

1524
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: Flacco, right so and When Anthony, yeah And Anthony. RICHARDS

1525
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: i think he's gonna be a while before he climbs

1526
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 1: out of The Holy dug himself when he needed a.

1527
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: Break and that's you, know that's a hard thing to

1528
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: climb back, for particularly in the locker room full of

1529
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: guys who, were you, know. Hurting so we'll see how that.

1530
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Goes but that's my CAL nfl true.

1531
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: False number, Two Justin fields will have a career year

1532
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: with The jets in twenty twenty.

1533
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: FIVE i will say true to that as, well really

1534
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 1: because it's pretty low bars to him having a career.

1535
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: Year, well don't forget he did have a one thousand

1536
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: yard rushing season with The, Bears so there is. That

1537
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 2: you're clearly.

1538
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: Unimpressed, yeah if he, throws he'll throw For if he

1539
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: plays seventeen, weeks seventeen, games he'll throw for between three

1540
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: and four thousand. Yards.

1541
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah his highest passing yardage total was his last year In.

1542
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Chicago started thirteen games and had just over twenty five

1543
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: hundred yards. Passing, yeah sixteen, touchdowns.

1544
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: Picks he'll, yes he'll surpass. That if he plays that

1545
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,480
Speaker 1: much with The jets.

1546
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: New offensive, system first time offensive coordinator in THE, nfl

1547
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: And Tanner, heergstrand who was an assistant Under Ben johnson In.

1548
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: DETROIT i am inclined to go false. Here why you might, ASK.

1549
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're gonna, say But i'll let

1550
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: you say. IT i don't want to put words in

1551
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: your mouth because it's The, jets.

1552
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: And i'd understand That Aaron glenn is really trying to

1553
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: change the culture, there BUT i think he's pushing a

1554
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: boulder up a hill with the ownership that is still

1555
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: in place there and player development has been sorely. ABSENT

1556
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: i JUST i can't see. HIM i, mean his best

1557
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: year in passing yards is twenty five. Hundred he might

1558
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: do better than, that but is he topping seventeen touchdown?

1559
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: PASSES i don't think he is run five in BUT

1560
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: i don't think he's topping seventeen touchdown. Passes and his

1561
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: best passer rating in his career was last year in

1562
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: a part time role with The steelers at ninety three.

1563
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: THREE i don't think he's stopping.

1564
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: That for my own, Reason i've got a lot of

1565
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: respect For Aaron glenn a lot of. RESPECT i played

1566
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: against him as a. Player he was a, CORNER i

1567
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: was a, receiver and you just felt any success you

1568
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: had against him was short. LIVED i, mean the, guy he's,

1569
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: relentless he's a smart, guy and he was making chicken

1570
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: salad last year In detroit with the injuries that he

1571
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: had to face as a defensive. COORDINATOR i mean it Was,

1572
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 1: staples duct tape and spit holding them together In, detroit

1573
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: and you, know ultimately it got. Him he has made

1574
01:27:55,640 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: enormous leaps into WHAT i think was important from a,

1575
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Distance i'm you, know we're a thousand miles. Away the

1576
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: things that happened to in the building In New york

1577
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: In Florham, park right out of the, GATE i thought

1578
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: were absolutely necessary and had never been done, Before meaning

1579
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: they cleared the building. Out it's all, new staff, new

1580
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: get all that out of, there clear it, out just,

1581
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: leave take a, retirement get out of our. Sight we're

1582
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: starting from, scratch and that doesn't mean just the footballs get.

1583
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Out AND i think that is a really really good.

1584
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: Start break time for us. Here we'll try to squeeze

1585
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 2: in one more true false when we come back on.

1586
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: One bill's lives stay with.

1587
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 5: Us.

1588
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: All, right our LAST nfl true. False for, You, Steve

1589
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: giants pass Rusher Abduall carter will have a bigger impact

1590
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: than Quarterback Jackson dart in their rookie.

1591
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: Seasons this is tough quarterback versus pass.

1592
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: Rusher it comes down to how many starts is dark

1593
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 2: gonna get well because you've Got Russell wilson And Jameis winston.

1594
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: There Abduall, Carter.

1595
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah it's got to Be. CARTER i think, here he's

1596
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: gonna play a, lot and he's Got Brian burns on

1597
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: the other, Side Dexter lawrence. Inside they have a GOOD

1598
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: d line, there so he's even gonna get some one

1599
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: on one. Opportunities SO i would Say, Carter, yeah he's

1600
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: the answer. There all. Right THAT'S nfl true. False and

1601
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: that's it for us, Today, steve And i'll see tomorrow at.

1602
01:29:45,439 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: One enjoy the weather if you're here In, buffalo everybody

1603
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: y