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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Buck Brief. David Harsanyi back with

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Speaker 2: us now. He is a senior columnist at the Washington Examiner.

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Speaker 2: He's also you got a book coming out, don't you,

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Speaker 2: David soon like the Conspiracy Book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rise of blewing On. It's still a still

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Speaker 1: a bit of way November, but yeah, coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's coming up. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: But they're very exciting, all right. Yeah, let's let's.

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Speaker 1: I expect a lot of that to happen after the election,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, well, let's let's dive right into that.

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Speaker 2: I I can't say this enough to me. It was

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Speaker 2: it was apparent that Kamala Harris was losing ground in

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Speaker 2: recent weeks because the strategy of hide her from the

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Speaker 2: public was too just sort of dishonest and gross for

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Speaker 2: it to work in any meaningful way. Now I look

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Speaker 2: at it, and I say, but the strategy of having

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Speaker 2: or speak in public is also not a good strategy. David,

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Speaker 2: What is going on all this media all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: What's terrible about it for her, I think is that

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Speaker 1: everyone with a brain knows that these are softball interviews,

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Speaker 1: and she can't even answer questions in that capacity, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, where they're just sort of giving

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Speaker 1: your questions that she knows she's going to be asked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're going to be asked about

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Speaker 1: the economy and what you do. Differently, you know you're

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Speaker 1: going to be asked about Israel and where you stand.

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Speaker 1: And yet she just offers up these words, ouads, these platitudes.

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Speaker 1: They make no sense. It's completely without any you know,

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Speaker 1: factual basis or any serious understanding of the issue she's

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Speaker 1: talking about. I don't think she's a stupid person, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that she's particularly bright. But I feel

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Speaker 1: like maybe she is just scared to answer her question.

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Speaker 1: You know, she just can't. She's scared, or she doesn't know,

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Speaker 1: or she's forgotten what she believes. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: It really feel to me like she is such a

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Speaker 2: weak candidate that if if Donald Trump loses to her,

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Speaker 2: and you know, there are people who would say, well,

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Speaker 2: Trump has some particular vulnerabilities, and you know, we'll see,

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Speaker 2: but if Donald Trump loses to her, it will be

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Speaker 2: so demoralizing for Republicans because if Kamala Harris, with a

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Speaker 2: it just means like their system, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, the.

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Speaker 2: Whole thing, like the whole machinery that Democrats have is

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Speaker 2: just currently superior to whatever Republicans can put forward because

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Speaker 2: she is a uniquely lacking candidate at a national level.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think there are people out there who just

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Speaker 1: don't like Donald Trump and that you know, it just

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Speaker 1: you know in states, and maybe they're better prepared for

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Speaker 1: this sort of thing. But the very idea, setting aside

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Speaker 1: their personalities and the things we don't like about the candidate,

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Speaker 1: it's the very idea that someone who is part of

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Speaker 1: the administration going right now, who did what they did

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Speaker 1: to our economy, who has left the world you know,

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Speaker 1: a flame, is not losing this race by like a

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Speaker 1: pretty big margin, just tells you that we're just very

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Speaker 1: tribal about politics probably and that it doesn't even matter

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people who's running, they're just going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, to me, that just means that they can

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Speaker 2: have any Democrat run and the outcome is roughly the same,

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Speaker 2: Right it doesn't They could just pick somebody out of

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Speaker 2: a similar outcome. Becau Kamala Harrison, he's just not good

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Speaker 2: at this. So on the one hand, that's reassuring going

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Speaker 2: terrifying because if somebody, in my estimation, who's so lacking

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Speaker 2: Clay asked me this on the radio show. I kind

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Speaker 2: I don't like to say someone's lying unless I know

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Speaker 2: don't buy it. Where do you come down on that?

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Speaker 2: And also just if she does own a gun, to me,

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Speaker 2: that raises some questions about, well, then why have you

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Speaker 1: Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if she was lying, but

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Speaker 1: But I say this, so what, there are tons of

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Speaker 1: authoritarians who have guns. They want guns, They want you

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Speaker 1: to me that she has a gun does not change

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Speaker 1: One of her positions was that you can use an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like it's also interesting that she's

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Speaker 2: whether it's the gun issue the border now she's a

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris that we knew in public life until July

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Speaker 2: truly like amazing. It's like a Soviet rewriting of the

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Speaker 2: history of the last ten years of this person, and

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Speaker 2: no one's allowed to notice that that's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: That is exactly what is going on.

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Speaker 1: An It's mind boggling. I would say, historically speaking, there

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Speaker 1: is no other presidential candidate who's changed there. I can't

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Speaker 1: even say she changed her mind, that flip positions on

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Speaker 1: so many major issues. And here's the thing, I don't

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Speaker 1: even buy that she flipped. I would not accept that

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Speaker 1: she flipped an issue. If I flip on something, I

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Speaker 1: changed my mind as a columnist, and I'm a nobody,

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Speaker 1: I explain why. If you don't explain why you took

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I mean, just because she says

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Speaker 1: took a new position, really that should be accepted by

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Speaker 2: to get get back into the political stuff. Well, this

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Speaker 2: switching into it was the October seventh, one year anniversary yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing when you see crazy things happening in

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Speaker 2: just like, well, you know, we know how they feel

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't excuse it, but it's just the

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Speaker 2: But when you see Americans doing this, like, what is

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Speaker 2: what is the thought process here for people marching with

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Speaker 2: Palestinian flags on October seventh? Uh? Like what do they

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Speaker 1: I wish I had a good answer for it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: They're wearing terror, his headbands, they're flying his ball of

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Speaker 1: saying they sure do. But there are also a lot

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Speaker 2: Can we can we dive into that? Actually, people that

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Speaker 2: I never heard of the CBS, and for those who

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Speaker 2: It's like a seven minute long interview. You can see

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Speaker 2: it on YouTube or wherever. And and Tana Hasei is

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Speaker 2: He is. He's one of these guys who, particularly among

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe six years ago or something when

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Speaker 2: But put that aside for a second. That's not surprising that,

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Speaker 2: an ignoramus about the Arabisraeli conflict, about Middle East political dynamics,

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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't write a book about Israel Palestine either.

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Speaker 1: and I'm ready to answer those questions. If you're not,

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand how you can be a writer,

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Speaker 1: or a pundit or an intellectual. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: point of it. We're supposed to be arguing about these things,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he can. Not many of them can,

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Speaker 1: because they're on the wrong side. Frankly, they're on the

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Speaker 1: side Hamas and that's by a place to be.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into this, bring it back to I

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Speaker 2: want to bring it back to the election and Michigan

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Speaker 2: and Kamala and the decisions that were made here because

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Speaker 2: to me, well, we'll get there in a second. You know,

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Speaker 2: how effective they are, I think you'll really want to

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Speaker 2: have one in your home defense repertoire, David, they didn't

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Speaker 2: pick Shapiro, and we were more or less told this

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Speaker 2: story that it was because Kamala really liked Walls, but

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Speaker 2: everybody was kind of like, Ah, you really need to

462
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Speaker 2: win Pennsylvania, not Minnesota, and Shapiro seemed like an obvious pick.

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Speaker 2: And you have a problem right now in Michigan because

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Speaker 2: this is another thing. There's some bigotries that exist on

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Speaker 2: the on the in the Democrat world, on the left

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Speaker 2: that everyone just kind of accepts, like there may be

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Speaker 2: a certain demographic that has very regressive views on gays,

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Speaker 2: for example, within the Democrat Party that nobody ever talks

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Speaker 2: about it. You know, it's very interesting there certain groups

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Speaker 2: are allowed to have certain views and and it seems

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Speaker 2: like the Democrat Muslim voters of you know, dearborn Michigan

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Speaker 2: in the surrounding area are like allowed to just really

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Speaker 2: not like Jews and that's okay. And am I missing

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Speaker 2: something because it seems to me like they're trying to

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Speaker 2: they're just trying to pander to them and say, oh, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: we'll we'll stay we don't want to get we don't

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Speaker 2: want to have too much Jewish stuff going on here

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Speaker 2: in the Democrat Party in this election Michigan voters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're trying to have it both way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First of all, yes, I don't there's no rational reason

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Speaker 1: any political person would pick Tim Wallas, who's terrible, who's

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Speaker 1: been caught lying about everything from how his children were

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Speaker 1: conceived to his military service. Over Shapiro you might not

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Speaker 1: like or whatever, but he's sort of carved out a

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Speaker 1: centrist governance in Pennsylvania and he's somewhat popular, so if

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Speaker 1: you want to win that Pennsylvania. But they're nervous about

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Speaker 1: the about Michigan and there is open anti Semim there

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Speaker 1: and they are trying to placid and modify those people.

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Speaker 1: There's no way around it. Just every time she talks,

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Speaker 1: it's this is why she can't answer. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw that sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Answer, Oh yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the reason she can't answer that question is because

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want to lose the votes in Michigan. But

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Speaker 1: she also has to worry about Jewish voters to some extent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, a lot of Jewish people are in

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Speaker 1: red state and areas she's not going to lose. But

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Speaker 1: you know, there's Pennsylvania, there's Florida, there's other places, and

499
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Speaker 1: she's just you know, all over the place. So I

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Speaker 1: think this administration has been the worst for Israel of

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Speaker 1: any in history. I think any Jewish person who sees

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Speaker 1: what's going on in the Democratic Party, where's Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 1: You just talked about all these Hamas marches in New York,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, as he said a word about them. Now

505
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Speaker 1: they're scared to offend people who hate Jews, and you

506
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Speaker 1: know the trajectory of anti Semitism is the same, and

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Speaker 1: we're seeing it. Last year, you know, it was some

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Speaker 1: rationalization for this. Now there's just open celebration of October

509
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Speaker 1: seven all over the country and all the things that

510
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Speaker 1: you advertise, the pepper gun, the ar fifteen's. Jews should

511
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Speaker 1: be buying those things because in this country, thank God,

512
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Speaker 1: you can defend yourself and we're not going to go

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Speaker 1: through the same thing we did in Europe here and

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Speaker 1: because of His World's existence, there's not going to happen again.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's all I can say. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to sound too no realistic about this thing, but it

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Speaker 1: is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Did you see The New York Times even had a piece?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I watch Morning Joe every morning. I don't think I've

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Speaker 2: ever told I, Oh yeah, I mean I fast. I

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Speaker 2: watch it on like high speed or whatever. I watch

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Speaker 2: it kind of after an hour has passed, I can

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Speaker 2: skip to totally. But I want to know what I

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Speaker 2: kind of want to know what the enemy is thinking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I view it, and it is.

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Speaker 2: It gets me fired up from my radio shoe because

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Speaker 2: of the radio show too, because I'm just like, these

529
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Speaker 2: people are so dumb and they like Joe Scarborough is

530
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Speaker 2: such a fraud and Mika they are such elitist frauds.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is a put on, like people can

532
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Speaker 2: like me or not like me. I sound exactly the

533
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Speaker 2: same about all of this stuff, whether I'm just hanging

534
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Speaker 2: out with friends or you know, with my wife and

535
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Speaker 2: walking around and talking to people as they do on

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Speaker 2: the radio. I mean, Joe's scarve, there're the whole thing

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Speaker 2: is a put on. But anyway, wait, I just got

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Speaker 2: so fired up about this. I I uh, I lost

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Speaker 2: my train of thought. Where where were you a second ago?

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Speaker 1: Was it about the sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: No New York New York Times. New York Times put

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Speaker 2: out this piece where where they're saying, yeah, there's the

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Speaker 2: Muslim support for Kamala Has like it's operated in Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and I mean one it's it's because they you know,

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Speaker 2: they don't like Jews and they don't like Israel. That

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Speaker 2: that's what's going on. But I also always want to

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Speaker 2: ask some of these voters that they talked to for

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Speaker 2: this New York Times piece, like what do you want

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Speaker 2: America to do here? Exactly? Like if you know, dude,

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Speaker 2: but do you know what I mean? Like what? Then

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Speaker 2: there's a whole other question too of like what does

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Speaker 2: Hamas even want? The people that are saying like, oh,

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Speaker 2: like Hamas is a resistance organization, we put that aside

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Speaker 2: for a second because I you and I know what

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Speaker 2: they want. But I'm just saying they'll never answer that question.

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Speaker 2: But what are the the Muslim voters of deer Bard.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there are Muslims who are going to

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Speaker 2: vote for Trump and who are not, you know, in

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Speaker 2: this category, to be very clear, in Michigan and elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: But those who are like hate Israel and therefore angry

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Speaker 2: at the Biden administration. I would see her. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what do they think? Like, what is a good president

563
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Speaker 2: doing the circumstances? What do they think? Do you have

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Speaker 2: any idea on that? I honestly have no idea, just rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'd be happy until I just don't

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Speaker 1: think they'd be happy until they were carpet bombing Tel

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Speaker 1: Aviv or something Americans, you know, I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: would make them happy. I guess they want the United

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Speaker 1: States to stop aiding and selling weapons to Israel, just like,

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Speaker 1: for instance, when the Squad and other Democrats voted against

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Speaker 1: defensive weapons for Israel, which actually saved lives in the

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Speaker 1: long run. But I don't know what they want to,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's getting to the point where

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Speaker 1: at some point in the Democratic art Party, and it's

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Speaker 1: not all Muslims, but many Muslim voters are going to

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Speaker 1: be and those Muslim voters are going to be more

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Speaker 1: important than Jewish voters, especially since a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Jewish community as it were, of course, have abandoned Judaism.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about Israel, They're not They're only Jews

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Speaker 1: in name only. I guess you'd say and you know,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to these far left appropriations of Judaism, approximations of Judaism.

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Speaker 1: They're not really you know, they don't care about Judaism

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Speaker 1: or Jews anymore. And that's the sad truth of it.

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Speaker 1: And those people will sometimes even be marching out there

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Speaker 1: with the people who wanted to see Israel destroyed.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's another fascinating part of this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there are Jews who are out there marching with the

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Speaker 2: pro Hamas people in the streets. That is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because they're not they're they're they're Jews like

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Speaker 1: Trotsky is Jewish, you know, they're socials, they're they've been

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Speaker 1: taken over by some left wing extremist views of the world,

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Speaker 1: and they're not critical of Israel. I love when people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't be critical. Of course, you can be critical

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Speaker 1: of people critical of Israel in Israel. It happens everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But when you put on when you're pro Hamas, which

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Speaker 1: wants the which believe you know, from the river to

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Speaker 1: the sea and all of that stuff, and those are

598
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Speaker 1: things that people are channing, you're no longer a critical

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Speaker 1: of Israel. You decided that this one country where Jews

600
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Speaker 1: live doesn't deserve to exist and everyone else does. They're

601
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Speaker 1: not out there marching for Kurds, they're not marching against Chinese.

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Speaker 2: Everybody. You got, you got mostly Arab Muslim militias in

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Speaker 2: the South Sudan that are just raping and massacring right now.

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Speaker 2: Black Africans in by the thousands and thousands. No one

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Speaker 2: even I tell people that they don't even know what's happening,

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Speaker 2: never mind, aren't focused on them. They don't have no idea.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of subjugation going on in the world

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Speaker 1: and bangled, you know, it happens everywhere, and they don't care.

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Speaker 1: They are focused on this one country that in my

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Speaker 1: view is sort of a bulwark of Western civilization there

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Speaker 1: and you know, by the way, has made peace with

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Speaker 1: almost every soon the Arab country. If it wasn't for Iran,

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Speaker 1: which funds Hamas has Balah, Hutis and Yemen and other

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Speaker 1: and Syria, there would be mostly be in the Middle

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Speaker 1: East right now. But yet what did Democrats do, What

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Speaker 1: does Biden do? What does what did Obama do? They

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Speaker 1: coddle Iran. They're pro Iran in many ways, and they

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Speaker 1: want to see a sort of balance there between Iran

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Speaker 1: and Israel. But Iran is a theocratic regime. They're not

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Speaker 1: a rational power. Why are they even attacking Israel? They

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Speaker 1: have literally no geopolitical reason to do that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I don't know, and I'm all

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Speaker 1: over the place, But the point is that if you're

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Speaker 1: pro Israel and you care about that a lot, I

625
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Speaker 1: don't see how you can vote for a Democrat anymore.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I in fact, Jewish to Jewish people,

627
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Speaker 1: I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked my Jewish friends that question all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I just and I got to tell you, I

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Speaker 2: did not. I think you might see a five percent,

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Speaker 2: maybe a ten percent increase in the Jewish vote for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I don't think it's going to be bigger

633
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Speaker 2: than that. Do you do you think.

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Speaker 1: I've been here, I've been no. I've been hearing this forever,

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Speaker 1: and it never comes true. You know, the Jewish vote

636
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Speaker 1: for many reasons, for traditional reasons, where Jewish people were

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Speaker 1: in the urban areas where they they congregated. Me and myself,

638
00:31:12,217 --> 00:31:14,017
Speaker 1: I grew up in New York and I hardly knew

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Speaker 1: anyone who wasn't a Democrat. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I think that maybe there'll be less maybe fewer

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Speaker 1: Jews will come out to vote for Democrats. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're going to see a huge bump in

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me your conversation