1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: your host, James D. Bo Harrison. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Please make sure you like subscribing download where you. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Get your podcasts. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: How you're doing today, Joe, I am doing so good. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: De Bo. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: I missed you. I missed you, brother, I missed. I 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: missed everybody. I missed the chat. I missed American soil. 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: I missed my kids. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: I missed. I miss McDonald's. I missed, I missed the finer. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: I missed. I missed the simple things in life, you. 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: Know, friends, I don't need. Look, I don't even eat 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 3: McDonald's and I miss McDonald's. Okay, but the devout. I'm 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: glad that I'm back, brother, honestly home kicking it here. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing amazing. I'm doing American. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Joe, I ain't gonna lie. Man had me 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: a little shook. I called the man. I called the 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: man El Hancho. Yes, you know what I'm saying, El Mincho. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I called him El Honcho. You know what I'm saying. 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: And then his homeboy was that El Julio, Yes, yes, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: took off, he went and ordered all the chaos that 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: happened after that, the army went and got him. This 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: dude put what was it, twenty twenty thousand pays sols 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: bro on officers, soldiers heads out there. Dude, that's only 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: like twelve hundred that's twe hundred dollars. Hey, Hey, I 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: ain't I ain't killing no, I ain't killing nobody for 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars. 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: No man, no sir, no man, no man, no sir. 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: But they say you could go back. 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: Now, it's only a level two awareness that's needed if 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you go back. 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Anybody that take yourself over there to. 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Mexico right now, look, any time in the future, you 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: are out of your mind. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: You want to go back. Joe. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: So this this, this is my This is my thing. 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: So I went out there for the golf trip with 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: my homies and they looking at me, hitting me up 40 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: now like Joe, you got us looking like like the 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: trip was the craziest, like it never everything it. 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: This is what happened, guys. The trip was amazing. 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: The spot that we stayed at Debo, we was at 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: Chilno Bay. When I looked and saw how we should 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: have stayed, we would stayed until things started popping off 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Sunday, when things got to popping off, that 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: was when everybody was supposed to leave anyway. So everybody's like, okay, boom, cobo, 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: We're at the spot Chilano Bay. Now I could speak 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: up my location because I'm safe. I'm in my home now. 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: Nobody knows what my private location is. So we was 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: at Chileno Bay. This place is amazing. Shout out to 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: Gino de Silvio that set it up. The trip was unbelievable. 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: But bro we on the space, were on the campus, 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: were chilling. We got the golf cart taking us to 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: the house, taking us to the course, A light up 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: nine holes, boom, everything's fun. We're having a blast. I'm 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: like sipping the margaritas. That that thing I showed you 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: whatever deeplehuck got the margarita saying give me a mark. 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: That was real time drinking margs. Literally that was joy 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: in my eyes. 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: And then let me get to the grety. 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: So Sunday, everybody saying okay, bet okay, yeah, oh it's 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: looking like okay, it's popping off. 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Everybody's like, okay. 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: Bet, our flights are out, okay, woo woo, so the airport, 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: the airport everything was popping off at was not the 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: airport that we were headed to. 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: So we went to the Carbo airport. It's a lot 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: of people in the airport. You know what I'm saying. 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm used to pack the airports and my boys and everybody. 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. My flight, I have a 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: connecting flight. I'm going to DC. They said, everything back 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: to DC. It's a snowstorm. So your everything back to 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: DC is canceled. So now my boys are going to LA. 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: So I'm like this, Okay, that's fine. Just get me 76 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: on the flight with my boys. You know what I'm saying, 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: I go to LA. I just need to get out 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: of Mexico. I didn't need to get out of Mexico. 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Bring me to La. 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: What they say, anybody say, oh, everybody's that all that 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: flight's completely booked. There's there's no flights that you can 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: get on to get out of here right now. Okay, 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: but we can. We can set you up on a 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: flight tomorrow, Joe, I say, I'm gonna tell you what 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: you can. 86 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Though, it could have been like a like a like 87 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a like a seat, like a lap child like because 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: you're under two hundred. 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: But no, I'm trying to find any jump. 90 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: I'm like this, no, no, you don't have to get 91 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: me the same flight, like you don't got to be 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: for I get this. Just get me on the plane. 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't care what sea. I'll you know, I set 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: up with the lady. You know what I'm saying. I 95 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: could be a flight attendant. I will help in any 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: way to get out of here. I'm sorry, sir, No, 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to go downstairs and go get your bags, 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Because there's no flights for 99 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: you today. We're gonna have you out tomorrow. So my 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: boys leave and that's when I'm like, okay, back, that's Sunday, 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: and that's when we had a show on Monday. So 102 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, bet let me get this, let me get 103 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: my little let me okay boom, let me give mem 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: a flight. Right, So then I have to get my 105 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: own hotel room. I go to this nice jump montage, 106 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: been there before, beautiful. We go back to the resort. 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: Everybody's chilling, nobody acting like nothing's going on. So then 108 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: next day wake up for the show and it's getting 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: more and more tricky. 110 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: They're starting. 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: There's just it's not it's not like where I'm at. 112 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: But who knows what cartel? When they say they're just 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: throwing up roadblocks, I say, where are the roadblocks? 114 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Like how you going to tell me that a roadblock 115 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: can't be out here? Like y'all don't know them, y'all 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: don't know why I stop back. So now I'm just 117 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: on my own self like this, Yeah, I hear what 118 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: you're saying, but you don't know the cartel. You didn't 119 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: talk to l Child, You didn't talk to them. You 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: didn't talk to you, ain't talk to you, ain't talk 121 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: to al. 122 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Metcha, you ain't talk too. 123 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: He mad, he hot, he hot, he's random. He could 124 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: just stop, he could just stop my street bank, Jody, 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: y'all ain't getting past. What am I going to say? 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm all right, bet let me get 127 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: out of here. 128 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: They hit me and said, Joe this a little earlier 129 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: flight while we're right before we about to get I'm like, 130 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: cause I'm not even one that. I'm like, doebe I 131 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: need to jump in and jump out. You're like, bro, 132 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: all right, get home. So then I end up getting 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: to the airport, make it to the airport for the 134 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: earlier flight. They're still pressing me now, going through my 135 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: bags again. I have nothing. I have nothing for you. 136 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I have that had too much. My cologne was too big, 137 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: and I had a too much. Joe took my cologne, 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: took my pad owner. 139 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I almost said, take it off. I don't want anything. 140 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: I just want my passport. Can I have my passport, 141 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: my chain and my watch and just send me home. 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: Golf clubs stay, everything stay. But then we got on 143 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: the flight. I was able to get home debo, but 144 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: that joint was. 145 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: What happened, got my connect. 146 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Then I got home late late Tuesday, late Tuesday. 147 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, I ain't gonna watch you. Joe. 148 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Look, man, I'm now that you're home safe. Yes, all right, Yes, 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I have to let. 150 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: You in on a little secret. Now, what's up, man? 151 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: I had to have a plan B, just in case, 152 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, m before here. This is what happened, so 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: before things you know transpired. You know everybody you know, 154 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: you got to have a plan B. Yeah, you got to. 155 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: So I'm done with the show and I start texting you, Joe. 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm getting no response, and I'm seeing bubbles. Right, 157 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the bubbles, Joe, but you ain't responding, right, Yeah, 158 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: So now I'm nervous. All right, I'm super nervous. So 159 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: then that's when I text you. I say, niggas say something. 160 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: So now I'm nervous, right, I'm scared. So you still 161 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: ain't text nothing, but I'm seeing bubbles. 162 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 163 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Now before you answer back, you know what I did. 164 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: I started making calls. I got I got extracted Team 165 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: three ready on standby. 166 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm bo? I do know who you talk? Okay? 167 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: The boys? Yeah, the boy I got them. You know 168 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: what I'm talking. I got him on stand by. 169 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't call it. I didn't call Hey, Joe, Joe stuck. 170 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I just need to 171 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: know what's going on. But now you know, now I'm 172 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: thinking though, and I'm like, I'm like, damn, we're donna 173 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: lost your So I say, you know what I got 174 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: to go through My Joe adecks okay and my Joe 175 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: A decks is contact to people I know name Joe. 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: To see who can do the show with me. Oh 177 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: you're looking for my listen, Joe, Joe. I'm just listening. 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, listen, Joe. Okay, I'm still listen. So 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like Joe Burrow. I'm like, yes that, I'm. 180 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Like that, you know. So I go into I go 181 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: into damage mode. I going to you know, and I'm 182 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: just Joe. I'm a business man too, you know what 183 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm but you ay, you safe, but listen. 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: So I go into business mode, and I'm like, you 185 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: know what this is, really bring the brotherhood together. You 186 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: got a guy from Cincinnati, a guy from Pittsburgh. We 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: get together and we agree to do this. You know 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Keep it in the AFC North, keep it, 189 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: keep it, you know, keep it the brotherhood. And you know, 190 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: came up with a rendering Joe where you would still 191 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: be in the show. So where your face would be 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: would be Joe's face, where my face would be would 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: still be my face again over the debo and Joe, 194 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: that's right there in the shadows. 195 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: It'd be like a shadow white light type of you 196 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: with an angel halo wowen and rememberance of you. So 197 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: you would be every. 198 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Show that's crazy debo again. No I thought I thought 199 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: we would, but. 200 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: Hey, it don't matter. Yeah, you don't matter. 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: You don't if I'm here. Yeah, you're good. But you know, 202 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I just had to let. 203 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: You know you funny meat for that debo. You're funny 204 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: team and I. 205 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: We had that rendering together, you know, I mean you 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: gotta were we was hold. 207 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: But like I said, I still had I had Extraction 208 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Team three ready. You did, and you hit me just 209 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: in case they took over my phone. Hey, hey, hey Joe, 210 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: what did I what a Jo said? 211 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Deebo said, Bro, if you ain't hit me back, I 212 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: was sending the drone. 213 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: I said. 214 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: I said, I said you got forty I said, you 215 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: got forty five seconds to hit me back, or I'm 216 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: sending the drone strike where your flocation is? I said, 217 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: tell all of them took your head between your ladies 218 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and asked you by debo. You see, That's what I'm saying. Man, 219 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I knew you you were to look up for Joe Burrow. 220 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: You lying to the for me. You were still trying 221 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: to distract me. Bro. I appreciate that. I felt it. 222 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, and I'm sitting there. I'm like, 223 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: I can't say something because if I send it and 224 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: then it don't happen in forty five seconds. They got him, 225 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: got him. Then I was I was in bubbles, Debo, 226 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: because I was literally I was trying to figure out 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: what I was going to say. 228 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 3: And then I was talking to the you. I was 229 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: talking to the airline people. So I'm like, I don't 230 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: know what to tell them. Well, I should be, I 231 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: should be. I should have said I'm safe. That's why 232 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: I should have said. Because I didn't know what to say. 233 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: I'm like Nigley say so. 234 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: But Debo looked this honestly, real, real stuff, bro keeping 235 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: it a bean. 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: I do like traveling. 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 3: But I'm going to tell you this after that situation, 238 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: feeling the feeling of helplessness sometimes when you like this 239 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: when you say when you say somebody could just block 240 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: the road and me no speak no and me don't 241 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: speak no Spanish Spanish. 242 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, love, you know. 243 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Yo, I got on no doors trades part I got, 244 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: I got. I can count, I can count get bit there, 245 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: but they do you know, like you know I can 246 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: get up there. I can do some numbers for you. 247 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: But when I'm get to talking, like when you sitting 248 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: there and you don't know the language. 249 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: Like they're like, no, They're like no you me, no me. 250 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: No. 251 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just feel compromised. And then if the 252 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: cartel mess around to pull up, they don't have the 253 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: same law, the laws as a law. So I'm like, yeah, 254 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: that joint really made me feel but like another shot 255 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: back again, ChIL ain't no bay result or fire amazing. 256 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: I never felt you know what I'm saying, like that's joint. 257 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: It was so nice, but. 258 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: It's just like you never know outside that though, and 259 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I don't see no ESPANYEO, yes, sir. 260 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: I told you, Joe, I wait, I wait, what what's 261 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen wherever I go? And 262 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: if I can't deal with the worst thing that can happen, Joe, 263 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I can't go. Yeah, I can't go, b Joe, you 264 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: got you gotta understand that, Like I'm already already. Like 265 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: when I went to Mexico City, I told my people, 266 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I said, hey, if they say they got me and 267 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: they won't ransom day line, I fought and they had 268 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: to kill me where I was at. 269 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: They just took my. 270 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: See it's not sitting no pay See dude, this is 271 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I will I will pay for my release. 272 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm just trying to get me 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: out of here safely. 274 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: Please. 275 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean no harm people. I'm just trying to come 276 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: and hear chill. Enjoy this water, enjoy this view, Enjoy. 277 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: This vibe, Enjoy these tacos and these vibes. 278 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm no one old drama, you know, no drama senior 279 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: or no one no drama. Mm hmmm, Joe. The NFL, 280 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: he A. I don't know if they released it or 281 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: who released it, but the report cards that came out 282 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins ranked first, and dude, the Stellers are 283 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: worse this year on the survey. They got the locker 284 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: room as a F minus. Yeah, players reported having only 285 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: five bathroom stars for the entire team. 286 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: That is true that you. 287 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Know, you gotta run upstairs, you get heavy, you got 288 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: to go catch one before you know. 289 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: That's crazy, it said. 290 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Another one, uh was the owners ranked last and the 291 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: willingness to invest in the facilities. 292 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: Yes, the lowest. 293 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: Ranked home field in the league by a wide margin, 294 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: they said, due to high school and college u leading 295 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: the poor field conditions. That was another F minus. You 296 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: got the strength coaches ranked last in the NFL. That 297 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: was another F and then the training staff was actually first, 298 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: though I don't I don't know if that grade just 299 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: go hold after you know, we're transpired this year. But 300 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think of these grades? 301 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Which ones you think are appropriate? Which ones you think aren't? 302 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Of the I would say the one thing that I 303 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: see here that's just glowing is that the locker room, Yes, 304 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: minus for sure. And when they state facts like five bathrooms, 305 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: when we think about it, like that's just the way. 306 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: It was, right, It's not okay, it's a hunt. 307 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: It could be one hundred people in that jone at 308 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: one time. You know what I'm saying, That people gotta 309 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: go when you gotta go to get practice. And then 310 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: with the showers, you know what I'm saying, Like it's 311 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: not a lot of them joints in there too. And 312 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: then the locker room, when you walk in there, it's, oh, 313 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: it's would it got your little name on the jump. 314 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: But like when we look at it back in the day, 315 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: coming from I was looking at like kulture, this is 316 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: what it is. 317 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 318 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: But at the end, when you do look at it, 319 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: it's like, now this is messed up. We need to 320 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: have bathrooms available and like nice lockers, you know what 321 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like there's no reason why it shouldn't be 322 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: up to grade, and that old mentality of like no, no, no, 323 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: do you get what you this is what this is. 324 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: We have what we have the requirements. It may not 325 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: be as extravagant as you like it, but they have 326 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: everything that you need. 327 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: So but the levels of the locker room, that's crazy. 328 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: Five bathrooms or think about it, that's kind of crazy. 329 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: So I did, dude, I never really counted it to 330 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: be honest or paid attention to it, to be honest 331 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: to you, because I'm like, all right, I know, I'm 332 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: gonna go in there, scan real quick, see if all 333 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: the feet on there, then I'm gonna shoot straight upstairs 334 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: to hope I get one of the. 335 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Two that's up there. That's crazy, you know what I'm 336 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: saying Right on the bathroom. The field is what it is. 337 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, when you get late into that season it 338 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: gets poor. I don't think they switch it in and out, 339 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: don't you know, switch over the field long enough to 340 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: replace it, And then sometimes they can't because of the 341 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: time it takes for it to be able to cure 342 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: and you know, seal down onto it. The strength coach 343 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: ranked last. That's that's something right there, dude. That I 344 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: think is uh, it's more of a I don't of 345 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: any of the ones. I don't really agree with that one. Yeah, 346 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I think the stremth coaches aren't. I think that I 347 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: like them pretty good. They're more flexible to They're just 348 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: not gonna give you exactly everybody has to do. 349 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: The same thing. 350 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: They're more uh two flexible to what you're what you need, 351 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I wouldn't I would 352 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: definitely say that the strength staff was better. I would 353 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: go to field was probably like it is, I think 354 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: because a lot of people use it, the. 355 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: College teams, high school teams, event so on it all 356 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the time, quick turnover and you got to get back 357 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: out there. And that field is natural grass. So that's 358 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: just gonna get beat up if somebody goes and use 359 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: it a day or like a little couple of days 360 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: before you use it. 361 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 362 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I think with the strength coaches that the ranking that's 363 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of on an individual basis, to be honest with you, 364 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: because if you want a real good strength coach. 365 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: They need time, dude. 366 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: And the biggest issue of them needing time is a 367 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: great strength coach is going to. 368 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: Make his. 369 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: Program to fit each person. It's going to be catered 370 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: to that person. 371 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to say. I was not 372 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: to what they want to do. 373 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys I think didn't want 374 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: to do the kind of lifting that they were doing 375 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: over there. You know fromout from from what I was hearing, 376 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: it was hard manual lifting. But the biggest thing that 377 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: they have to understand is a strength coach is there 378 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: to build strength. And I think, I know if you're 379 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: a good strength coach, you build and you cater to 380 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: the person's needs that their body tells you their need, 381 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: because you can't have an imbalance. And the biggest thing 382 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: is when you get a ten percent imbalance in between muscles, 383 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: So say my hamstring. 384 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: And my quad. 385 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: If my quad is stronger by more than ten percent, 386 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: now it ups the risk of injury. Now, if you 387 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: get into that fifteen and higher percent, it's not about win. 388 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not about it. If it's about win, 389 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: you're going to pull something. Yes, So people who pull 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: their ham strings a lot are quad dominant. They have 391 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: a greater deficiency there that's causing the other muscle to 392 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: strain in the effect of trying to do what it 393 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: needs to do. Now, if they're able to go and 394 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: do a body you know, maintenance or a body evaluation 395 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: of each player and then make the program accordingly, then 396 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: that's better. But when you have coaches that a lot 397 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: of them, they build a. 398 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: Program that's for each group. 399 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Now that program for that group that week may be 400 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: posterior base for your ham strings and everything else. 401 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: Well, this person is already hamstring dominant. 402 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be doing a straight pa week hamstring something. 403 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: They need to be doing something for the quads. But 404 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: you don't know that unless you get those measurements. So 405 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: what you do is you get those measurements, you're like, 406 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna get something, and this is what 407 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you focus more on so that i 408 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: can close down that gap, that deficiency. 409 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: Then we re evaluate the body you know later on. 410 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Three weeks later to see if we're closer within that 411 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: that ten percent range debo. 412 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: That is exactly right. 413 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: That makes it a really good strength coach, because I'm 414 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: saying the strength coach that you think is coming in there, 415 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: everybody gotta do the same thing. 416 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 2: This is what we do. This is why we're doing it. 417 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, each individual players, we're professional athletes here. 418 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: We're here for the right reason. 419 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Some people's hamstrings need a little bit of work, some 420 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: people need a little bit more upper body stuff. So 421 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: when you're able to cater to the individual athlete, that's 422 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: what I think makes a really. 423 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: Good strength coach. 424 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: And when I was there, Gee, he did a good 425 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: job with me of evaluating what I needed, well, so 426 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I need to get working. 427 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: I was good at that and that's what we worked on. 428 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know who. 429 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: Was working on them, but I'm like, the evaluation is 430 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: if they're doing that, I think that's a good strength coach. 431 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, NFL. 432 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: NFL said they will review the twenty twenty six NFLPA 433 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: cards leak. They're going to review the leak because they 434 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: don't want their dirty laundry out there and the NFLPA 435 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: may have what do you call it, accidentally leaked it. 436 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know however you want to call it. If 437 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: they get caught, they're going to be caught, and that's 438 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: and it's stupid to do it and make like it's 439 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: a leak or whatever, But that's the NFLPA because they're trash, Dude. 440 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: They're trash and they have been trash since we lost 441 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Gene Upshaw two. 442 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: Thousand and eight. 443 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, Gene Upshaw told us, were 444 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: you playing in two thousand and seven, No, twenty ten, 445 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: you We ain't play til two thousand and ten. Two 446 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: thousand and seven Geen Shaw came in, dude, and he 447 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: told us. He said, from that point forward, everybody saved 448 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: thirty percent of your money every year leading up to 449 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the lockout in twenty eleven. He said, it's not about 450 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: if they lock us out. He said, they're going to 451 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: lock us out. This is four years prior. 452 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: Dude. Okay, you have to be able to last at 453 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: least eighteen. 454 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Months, so that would give you one hundred and twenty 455 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: percent of what the money is that you made. 456 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: You have sitting there ready to go for a lockout, right. 457 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: Yes, he gets diagnosed with cancer, dude, and three days 458 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: later he passes. Then comes the worst NFLP executive director 459 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: we have ever had in the history, the Marcus Fitch 460 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean Marcus Fitzgerald Smith. Yes, trash track the only 461 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: thing he did, and his tenure was make rules that 462 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: kept himself in power. 463 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: That's it. 464 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: He actually changed the rules after the twenty eleven Collective 465 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: Bartoning Agreement because he almost lost it. 466 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: So back then you had, well you still do. You 467 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: got thirty two player. 468 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Reps, okay, one player for team, and those players are 469 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: the guys that go to all the meetings. We're supposed 470 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: to go to all the meets, get you all the information. 471 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: So back then those player reps would approve or disapprove 472 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: to bring it to the players. They improved to bring 473 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: it to the players. They bring it to the players. 474 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: The players would then vote on it, okay, then the 475 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: numbers would be sent in. Hey, this is what they voted. 476 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: This was the numbers. Jordi wins. Boom boom, boom boom. 477 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: They changed that so now only the thirty two player 478 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: representatives get to actually make the vote. They don't have 479 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: to bring it to the players. They don't have to 480 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: bring it to the players. So it's the thirty two 481 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: that approve or don't approve the CBA. And on top 482 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: of that, the election or re election of the executive director. 483 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: So the players don't even have a vote no more, 484 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: because why it's easier to control thirty two. It is 485 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: what almost thirty two hundred every time it comes to vote, 486 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: because you vote in the offseason, sixteen hundred players are 487 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: there that won't even be there at the start of 488 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: the season. They're go to there fifty percent that they're 489 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: looking for anyway, all they need is fifty one, okay, 490 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: And then of that sixteen hundred, how many invested maybe 491 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: six five, six hundred are actually invested into the program? 492 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: You know, there there's no accounted ability or oversight of 493 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: what the reps actually vote because there's no record of it. 494 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: And the only way the guys will know is to 495 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: ask the representative, what did you vote? 496 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: And he could lie. 497 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: Now, like where we're at with the executive committee is 498 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: like crucial because now the executive committee is like twelve 499 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: or fourteen guys, okay, and these guys actually pick who 500 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: you get to vote for. So they send it out 501 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: to a third party. 502 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 503 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: The third party is supposed to the third party is 504 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: supposed to see who's qualified, and they send that back 505 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: to the committee okay, and then the committee can pick 506 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: who they want to actually put out to the player 507 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: representatives to vote for. 508 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: The new NFL. 509 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Executive NFLPA executive director, or the CBA. 510 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: If that's the timing of what it is. 511 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: So if the NFLPA Executive Committee member don't put your 512 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: name in a hat, you don't even get a chance 513 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: to make it to get put to the third party. 514 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: And then even if you do make it past, that's 515 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: the third party and they bring it back and say, 516 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: all right, these are the six guys that made it. 517 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: They then can pull you from that and put out 518 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: whose side they want to present to the player reps. 519 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: They just fired the dude, Craig Jones. Dude, they just 520 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: fired this dude. He worked there, I guess almost seventeen 521 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: eighteen years something like that. In January, he was placed 522 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: on an administrative leave for sending emails that they said 523 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: they deemed antagonists because he was asking Jalen Maven, the 524 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: current Uh what is he the president of the NFLPA. 525 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: He was, you know what, he was basically asking him 526 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: play that for him. He was basically asking me this question. Listen. 527 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: Let me see. 528 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody is saying that this process needs 529 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: to be transparent to the media, but when. 530 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 4: You have people in your players reporters, they did not 531 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 4: know information about who is selected or who they can 532 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: That's Mike Jones. 533 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: I think that the exactive did not make that recommendation. 534 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Is that to the fact you guys are saying, oh, 535 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: we didn't like them, Annoyd. 536 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 4: But why would you not want to make sure that 537 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: they were more informed and listening all the information they 538 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 4: need so they can vote for the best unit as possible. 539 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: I think we have in short that they're informed. You know, 540 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: we've given a lot. 541 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 5: Of feedback with bad meetings with our our board members 542 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 5: and like I said, I don't think that no every 543 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 5: everyone's not gonna be touched. That's always want to be 544 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 5: someone who may not have been as engaged or may 545 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: have missed something. 546 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: But uh, like I said, I'm proud of our process. 547 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: Long we've got. 548 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 5: Outside council give us recommendations on changes that should be made, 549 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: and you know, we we've implemented build changes we've said 550 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 5: and to ask our board members, know, what do you 551 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: want to see? Is there anything that you all feel 552 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 5: like needs to be done to this process? And we've 553 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: sat there and we've heard them out, and you know, 554 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 5: we've continue for with our process and. 555 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe there are maybe I could be missing something. 556 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: Maybe there are a lot of people who you know, 557 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 5: did not feel like they were in the note. 558 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: But I know for a fact that we put into 559 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: work and ensured uh. 560 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 5: You know, everyone has the access and the ability to 561 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 5: know what's going on, and everyone we've kind of made 562 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: the rules to the game up front, and you know, 563 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: our player leadership knows that, and you know that that's 564 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: what we have to stand on it. You know, I 565 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: can't answer for for everyone, but the work that I 566 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 5: put in and the work that they the community has 567 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 5: done as has been with integrity and you know, the 568 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: best service our members and to be opening to hear 569 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 5: from them and make sure we're moving in accordance with 570 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 5: the players. 571 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: I've asked for it. 572 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: I know that we do that every day and every weekend. 573 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 5: You know, I don't really think it's our child to 574 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: just prove that to everyone. 575 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: They know it, we know it, and that's where it 576 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: will stand, all right, Joe, Joe. 577 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: The first thing he said, I think, I think, I think, Jalen, 578 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: you don't think he just told you. No, you haven't, 579 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: he said, So, they said, so you're in the meeting 580 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: with the board members. You need to be in the 581 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: meeting with the players because you don't care about the players. 582 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: You need the board members so that you can get 583 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the vote so you don't lose your job. You're proud 584 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: of the process. How are you proud of the process. 585 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: It's the same process that you're going to use that 586 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: got the last NFLPA executive director that you had. He's 587 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: gone under that process because y'all obviously messed up. So 588 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: come on, and on top of that, you want to say, 589 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: he said he made the rules to the game. He 590 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: gave you the rules to the game up front. 591 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: No, you didn't. 592 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: You just said it's no transparency. He just said it's no. 593 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: You can't find out. There's no transparency. Nobody knows who 594 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: voted for what. And the worst was, it's not your 595 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: job to prove that. It's one hundred percent your job 596 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: to prove that to the players you represent. 597 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: Dumb ass. If you can't do it, get out of there, dude. 598 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: That's why I'm running for the n f l PA 599 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: executive director. You need somebody in there that's actually in 600 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: there for the players. 601 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so hey, listen, the nfl PA executive Hey, the 602 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: people who actually make those decisions. Cam, you're one, my guy, 603 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: you said you was gonna make sure I was on 604 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: the list, all right. On the other one, the lay 605 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: is Campbell, he's the president. He said, hey, hey, I'm here, 606 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: my guy. He said, listen, calm down, man, it ain't 607 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, it ain't there yet. We gonna get you 608 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: in there. No, I'm not gonna calm down. 609 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 610 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Austin Eckler also talk to him, he's another vice president. 611 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Holler at you boy, please and thank. 612 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: You, because devote I'm gonna lie you are honestly speaking 613 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: facts because this is my thing. 614 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: They're keeping it like like the ownership. They're keeping it 615 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: like the. 616 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: Way that the NFL runs their stuff if it's for 617 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: the players, and you really for the players, and you like, no, no, no, 618 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: the NFL is doing. 619 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: It how they should do it. 620 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Were the protecting the NFL, That's what I'm saying, not 621 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: protecting our players here. 622 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: We're acting like no, we're acting like there's a little 623 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: boys club at the top though of the NFL PA. 624 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: That's not really all the. 625 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: Guys that you're not job That's what I'm saying. Those 626 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: dudes are not trying to keep it as open because 627 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: if you're not doing what you're supposed to do, sir, 628 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: then get somebody in there that doesn't the players don't 629 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: feel as informed. Well, I think that we're doing it 630 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: in our process. Your process isn't good enough because the 631 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: players don't know what the hell is going on, and 632 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: you don't feel like they should because you know if 633 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: they did, you wouldn't be in your position. So you're 634 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: gonna keep it just how it is so you can 635 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: let it, let it go, have goals. I want it 636 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: to be open. I want Deebo's names. You'll be in 637 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: there because end of the day, if this bull stuff 638 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: going on, you're trying to get it all out for 639 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: the players. I'm just feeling like these dudes are getting 640 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: so comfortable in their position and they're answering this so 641 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: matter of fact, and so like, what do you mean 642 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: you you're talking to I brought it to the board, 643 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: the board. We need to make sure that this is 644 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: the NFL. 645 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: They're saying the board members didn't even know. The board 646 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: members didn't even know, didn't even vote. Dude at the 647 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: meeting this year at. 648 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: The super Bowl, it was executive committee members that weren't 649 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: even there. 650 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: How are you gonna miss your own meeting for something. 651 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: You're running what they don't I need? How does that work? 652 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: Do you even know who Jaalen is? 653 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: But he's running, He's actually damn there running this thing 654 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: right now. Nobody knows who he is is. The players 655 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know who he is. Nobody knows who he is. 656 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: You know who voted him in the executive committee? 657 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: Why? I don't know? Shit? 658 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Neither do I because active players don't get the vote anymore. 659 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: This affects all players. This also affects retired players. This 660 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: affects you right now. You're in the retirement phase where 661 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: you still are getting your health benefits, but you only 662 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: get that for five years. Then that's taken away. Wait 663 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: till you find out that insurance costs oh my god, 664 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: to keep. 665 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: The one that they have. They'll say, hey, listen, we'll 666 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: make it easy for you. 667 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: You can just keep their insurance you got, and we'll 668 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: automatically just deduct it. Because when you go to try 669 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: and get paid for this stuff, dude, when I say 670 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: you have to go through a process. 671 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: If it wasn't for the fact that I didn't. 672 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: Have a regular nine to five, if you have a 673 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: regular nine to five job, after you're done playing. You're 674 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: not going to be able to get to your your NFL, 675 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: to your HR, your health reimbursement account. You're not gonna 676 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: be able to get to it. They're only open during 677 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: business hours. In the process of going through it and 678 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, you can't do it. I 679 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: got lucky and I ended up getting hooked up with 680 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: a guy after my fourth fifth time calling and he 681 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm gonna take you to the steps, 682 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: and he would he would sit there on it with 683 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: me to this day, he will sit there on the 684 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: phone with me going through the process of calling my 685 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: insurance company, calling the doctor, getting all this other information 686 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: that I would have no idea how to get. 687 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: Bro. 688 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: I was on the phone for an hour and forty 689 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: five minutes one time to get reimbursed two hundred dollars. 690 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh no, And that's the game, BRO, that's their business. 691 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: BRO. 692 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: Make it as hard as possible for you to get it. 693 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: So a lot of guys don't even go for it, dude, 694 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: because the process is so hard. 695 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: And when you say, Okay, I don't go for this 696 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: two hundred, I don't go for this one hundred. I 697 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: don't do that. And you get that over thirty forty 698 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: times over the course of the year. 699 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Da da dah, you done missed out on a few 700 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: grand now, yeah, and that's one player they're doing that 701 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: with and thinking how many players still got that money 702 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: sitting here. 703 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 704 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: They they didn't make the process so hard to get 705 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: back that guys don't even know how to do it. 706 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: And like I said, if I didn't get lucky and 707 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: get in contact with the right person because everybody else, 708 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: well you gotta call your h way, you gotta call 709 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: this and then you got to pull it from here. 710 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: I can shout out to that, where the hell do 711 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: I go for that? Nah? For sure, I get one thing. 712 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: M ain't gonna lie my agent I had, you know, 713 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 3: Dwayne Starks Uh, my agent, Drew. He called me yesterday 714 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: and was just checking up on me, making sure all 715 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: of this stuff was good. So that's that's why I 716 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: can shout out to Drew because he's where he works with. 717 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: Drew Rosehus, my old agent, and they still hitting checking 718 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: up body once. 719 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: A year for the retired guy. So I got the 720 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: call yesterday, so that was actually pretty dope. Yeah, dude, 721 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: they know how to do the process though. 722 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, yeah, you got a team that will be 723 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: there and help you with that process. I was me, 724 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know it, especially guys is older than us 725 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: that that's really no control. That is Listen, you don't 726 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: know what you own. I do not know why he 727 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: is even in there. Nobody knows of him. And here's 728 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: a crazy thing. 729 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: I went to. 730 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: One the year before when they got Lloyd, same thing 731 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: press conference. Dude, it was like it was like somebody 732 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: just doing like word solid man, he just saying the 733 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: same thing here. 734 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: But it was worse even then. Nobody even knows who is. 735 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: You know, when you you know when you don't have 736 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, when you're not standing on nothing, that you're 737 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: really just trying to deflect. 738 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: He's not saying he's trying to stand on holding his job. 739 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: That's it. I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That is it. 740 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 2: He's not doing nothing else. 741 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Bro, Look here James Harrison for NFLPA executive director. 742 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: And your hat got to be in there, and they 743 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 2: got to at least get you to the do we 744 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: know if you're getting sent to the to the third 745 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: party nothing. 746 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: They were supposed to have a meeting in March at 747 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: the meeting this year at the Super Bowl. They don't 748 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: even have a timeline anymore of that date. They don't 749 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: even have the date no more. It's supposed to be March. 750 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: They don't even know exact date. Because when they act, 751 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: the whole NFLP is acting. 752 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: About you that. 753 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, when they like you got it 754 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: is trash, super trash. You're talking about being informed and 755 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: trying to make sure people are going. 756 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: To the meeting. 757 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: You had this out of the Super Bowl. They didn't 758 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: even show up to their own meeting. So how you 759 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: you like that doesn't make any sense. 760 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: The guys that the only the thirty two guys that 761 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: have the vote, plus the fourteen or eleven committee members, Dude, 762 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: I guarantee you it might have been seven or eight 763 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: guys in there from that whole forty something. 764 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people got stuff on their plates. 765 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: But when we're talking about this stuff, if you do, 766 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: you got a kind of gracefully bow out and we 767 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: got to get somebody. 768 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: That's what that can be. Who is the guy that 769 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: ended up getting that job? Every year, most of the 770 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: time when they. 771 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: First start off, it's just one of the best players nope. Oh, 772 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: best players don't want it. It's too much work. So 773 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: you get a guy that's like, you know what, I'll 774 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: do it, and if they really care about it and 775 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: they're the best player, then yeah, they'll they'll get care 776 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: about it. 777 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: Or that's just going as. 778 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: Because I'm the big name on the team and I 779 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: should be there representing. 780 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 2: That's not who should be there. 781 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: It should be the person that's actually do Dude that 782 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: can't wait, that's trying to get his jont that can't 783 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: wait to be like, I'm invested, I want to see 784 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: exactly what's going on in here, and like that's really 785 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: interested in the process. 786 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: Who was in there before he was even in vested, 787 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: I believe. But do you know what, how are you 788 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: on a NFL p A and you're not even vested 789 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: into the program. You are now one of the members 790 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: that are supposed to be going out here leading it 791 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: and trying what. 792 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: My laws messed up on that too? It gotta be 793 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 2: like it gotta be. 794 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: They're not telling anybody to start saving up or nothing, dude, 795 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: because it's going to be a lockout. Players, listen, save 796 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: thirty percent all the way up into the lockout, because 797 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be another lockout. The NFL wants to 798 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: go and get this done as fast as possible. You're 799 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: trying to get it done as fast as possible because 800 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: you want a deal that's for them. They're not going 801 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: to give us a good deal. They're not going to 802 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: give the players a great deal. They're not going to 803 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: do that. We had the opportunity and we let de 804 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: Smith file it up. Period Like we need report cars 805 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: on the nfl PA. Bro oh man, they would definitely 806 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: not let them things get out. We need report cars 807 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: on the nfl PA. 808 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: Miss. We got, miss we got, we got, we got 809 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: some Stiller. Let's get over here. See what the Steelers 810 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: talking about? Brother, So we got Mike Flores. Ooh. He said. 811 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: People around the league are skeptical of Stellers love for 812 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: Will Howard. 813 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 814 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: They said the Stellers met with Alabama's Tye Simpson. What 815 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: do you what do you think of that statement? You 816 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: think that's a that's a correct statement. 817 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: What do you do? How do you view that? 818 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: Joe, We got the right to be skeptical, but I 819 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: think how it needs a chance. We didn't draft them 820 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: for no reason, thank you? Body like I don't care 821 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: what everybody else says. We got him on our roster 822 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 3: right now. We picked him. He's a stealer. I love 823 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 3: the coach. I love the way that he was able 824 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 3: to develop quarterbacks. So man, I'm not in love with 825 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: Todd Simpson. Everybody else say that too. Like quarterbacks, people 826 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: fall in love and all of a sudden he's one 827 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: of the best quarterbacks ever. 828 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 829 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it. We got Will Howard. 830 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: We see what he could do in college. In the 831 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: collegiate level. He's on our squad. Let's use everything that 832 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: we got to make everything around him better. Let's make 833 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 3: this Let's make it like Sam darnaldish where he doesn't 834 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: have to go out there and be Patrick Mahomes, not 835 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: mess it up, do good, hit the players when they 836 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: need to, and we run the ball well, have a 837 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 3: solid defense, and Will's gonna look better than I think advertised. 838 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: People always want to jump around and do all of 839 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 3: the quarterback stuff and. 840 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: Say that shit. 841 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: But for me, I'm staying with Will. I'm not going 842 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: to abandon ship. I'm gonna keep it right there. I 843 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 3: actually do. I want to give him a shot. If 844 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 3: the sink. If it falls, it falls, we're gonna be 845 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: able to see what happens next year and be able 846 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: to Now, we really got to go get a quarterback. 847 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 3: We know that's the position of need. We knew Aaron 848 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: Rodgers isn't going to be the fix. We know if 849 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: we're going to have to find out if we're Howard's 850 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: going to be the fix. Then if he's not, we're 851 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: in the same boat. But we don't know until we 852 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: don't know. So I'm like, we got Mason backing up Rudolph. 853 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Mason Rudolph backing them up. We still got 854 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: Will Howard, So you like Mason Rudolph as a I mean, 855 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: we can, we can, we can do something else. I mean, 856 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: you know what you're gonna get. You know what I'm saying, 857 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm not don't mean that I won't that, I mean 858 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 3: for sure, for sure. I'm just saying for right now, 859 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just throwing out Will. I just said Mason, 860 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 3: because Mason is a good friend of mine. I played 861 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: with him, and I know what I was gonna get 862 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: solid you just that's I think that's why they probably 863 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: put him in before they even gave Will a chance. 864 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: Because you just consistent, you knew what you gonna get. 865 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 3: But now new coaching staff, that was with coach tve 866 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 3: so now Will Howard, new coach, new vibe. 867 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: Give him a shot, give him some ops, let him 868 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: see what's up. Yeah, I'm I'm all with you. 869 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are are saying, you know, 870 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: the GM on mar Con. He you know he has 871 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: to do He hasn't done nothing. Well, I can say 872 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: with certainty that he has had little control of what 873 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: has came out of the top draft picks. So this year, 874 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: for me, will definitely be a point where I believe 875 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: the Stellers are going to go back to doing what 876 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: they did before and not make the mistake of allowing 877 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: a single individual to ultimately have the say of being 878 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: able to, you know, pick a dude higher than the 879 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: majority has has ruled him. So I'm looking forward to 880 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: seeing how he drafts this year. Okay, and from this 881 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 1: year on it's where I'm gonna I'm going to judge, 882 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, O mar Khan, That's that's just where I 883 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: sit now. The will I want I won't. 884 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: I want Will to get a chance. The reason I 885 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: want Will to. 886 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: Get a chance is even looking at Tye ty Simpsons 887 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: numbers and it's not I mean Will's. Will's numbers were 888 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: actually better. I don't, I don't. I don't think we 889 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: need to grab him. If he's there, they don't think 890 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: he'll be there at what is it, twenty one, twenty two, 891 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: something like that, twenty whatever it may be. 892 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 2: Ty If ty Simpson is there, you think we should 893 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: get him. If the Stellers think that he's a franchise quarterback. Me, no, 894 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't want. I don't. That's where I'm no. 895 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 3: I think we can get somebody that's nice for sure, 896 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 3: that's going to start on our squad. 897 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: And like we got we got TJ. 898 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: Wade at thirty two, Like there's there's good players there 899 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: that we could get. 900 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: The receivers. It's a stack receiver squad you want to 901 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: go get. Actually, I don't think that we want to 902 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: go here. 903 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: But it's a cornerback fire at that position where you 904 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: could lock it up with Joey Porter Jr. The best 905 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: tackle the best, you know what I'm saying, something something 906 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: of the best of the best that you like. I 907 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 3: don't think that we got to go trying to go 908 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 3: reaching like oh no, the quarterbacks. No, I mean, he's 909 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 3: not the one. If you think he's the guy, I don't. 910 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: But if the team does, if they believe in them, whatever, 911 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, right now, we got too many holes, 912 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: too many gaps. 913 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: Quarterback is one of the main positions. But before the 914 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: season started, I wasn't looking at Ty Simpson like, oh, 915 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: if we the Stellers got him, not to be the one. No, 916 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking basically, any of these quarterbacks for real, 917 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 3: were really making me feel like we need to go 918 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 3: up and get him. 919 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't even lie, dude, I had to. I 920 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: had to go back and look at uh Will Howard stuff. 921 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: Dude. His senior year. 922 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: Dude, he was seventy three percent completion man, had over 923 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: four thousand yards. He was almost ten yards of catch 924 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: bro like averaged almost tend to catch. He had thirty 925 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: five touchdowns, tend and SUPs. And we ain't get out 926 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: a shot or a chance to even show what he 927 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: could do. Now, I don't know that, don't don't that 928 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: don't make sense to me. You drafted him, You drafted 929 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: him for a reason. At least put him out there 930 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 1: and see. 931 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 2: What he could do. I know he was at Ohio 932 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: State with them weapons, but get him some. 933 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: Even even before that, when he was at where was 934 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: that it was it Kansas, I don't know where he 935 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: went before. I think it was, but he improved there 936 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: each year, well for the last two years of his career, 937 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: he improved there without the weapons. I mean the numbers 938 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: weren't as great because I'm rocking, well. Once he got 939 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: those weapons, it did, it did a whole lot better. 940 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: Another thing, he was a big body brou Yeah, like 941 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: he's not no little dude. Yeah, six two two o 942 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: eight on the books. That don't you know with Simpson, 943 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: that don't That don't feel good to me, especially you 944 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: know with some of the contact he may have to 945 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: come into depending on how the line is doing that day. 946 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 947 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 3: And we want to play and these quarterback when we 948 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 3: get him, we wanted to play for a long time. 949 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: And the frailer, the smaller, I don't know how long. Well, 950 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, we was in there. 951 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 2: For a minute. 952 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: So let me not speak out of term, but I 953 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 1: like a big frame quarterback.