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Speaker 1: My guest today is the iconic Sharon Osborne. Sharon is

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Speaker 1: a boss. She has an impressive mind for business and

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Speaker 1: has done a masterful job managing the music career of

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Speaker 1: her husband, Ozzy Osborne. Fans across the world fell in

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Speaker 1: love with her and Ozzie when they start in their

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Speaker 1: reality show The Osborne's on MTV. Since then, you've seen

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Speaker 1: Sharon hosting everywhere, The Sharon Osborne Show, The X Factor,

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Speaker 1: America's Got Talent, The Talk, and more. She is an

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Speaker 1: opinionated person who is not afraid to speak her mind.

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Speaker 1: Sound familiar and I think you're going to love this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Let's get started. So nice to meet you. I feel

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Speaker 1: like have we met? Have we met on your show?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I know you, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I've actually ever met you know, we haven't met.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, Okay, Well, yeah, there's been a lot about

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Speaker 1: you that over the years, about a lot about your

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Speaker 1: family and you guys have been in this crazy stew

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Speaker 1: of entertainment and drama and media and really in the

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Speaker 1: beginning of reality television as we know it now with

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Speaker 1: family dramas and then all the branches of your family

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Speaker 1: going off in different ways. And um, wow, as I

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Speaker 1: as I think about you, I think you have had

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Speaker 1: a very colorful, crazy life. Yeah, I don't know, Bethany.

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Speaker 1: When you get to my age, you feel you've lived

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Speaker 1: like three lifetimes. You know, It's like because we were

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Speaker 1: always changing, these people aren't We were always evolving. So

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Speaker 1: you know what it was forty years ago, it isn't today.

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Speaker 1: You know, Well, what do you think about It's like,

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Speaker 1: what when you think about age? What do you feel

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Speaker 1: about age? What do you think about age? And are

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Speaker 1: you vain? Are you insecure? You're trying to chase youth

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Speaker 1: in any way? Like where are you on age? No,

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Speaker 1: age doesn't bother me. It bothers me. It'll health bothers me,

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Speaker 1: but age doesn't bother me. I've never been one of

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Speaker 1: these women that have been crazy about age. And oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I mustn't tell my real age. And I've

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Speaker 1: got to keep trying to look better I look. I

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Speaker 1: have cosmetic surgery for me, for me, not for anybody else,

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't a very good looking young girl. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I do it for me, and I it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel confident. But I don't go in there

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Speaker 1: and say I want to look forty or fifty, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just certain things about my face I've

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Speaker 1: never liked and I've changed and I'm happy. But being

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Speaker 1: seventy in a month doesn't bother me. I couldn't give

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Speaker 1: a ship because I've got confidence, I've got knowledge, and

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Speaker 1: I have more knowledge being seventy obviously than I did

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Speaker 1: for example me, so I've I've had botox, but not

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Speaker 1: maybe once a year, not because I wouldn't get it

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Speaker 1: more off, and I forget like I'm not a vain person,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I almost wish that I were more

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Speaker 1: meaning if I get my makeup done and my I

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Speaker 1: do my own color, but and I never get my

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Speaker 1: hair cut. But if I get my own makeup done,

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Speaker 1: I want to look good, and then I feel bad

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Speaker 1: if I don't like, I'll look at the picture and

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Speaker 1: annoy me. But I'm not a proactive look at my

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Speaker 1: celebrities say to me, um, oh honey, you're late, Like

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Speaker 1: everyone else is just lying. They're all doing it, And

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Speaker 1: then I get anxiety. I think, like probably many women

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Speaker 1: listening where I'm like, well, how do I know? And

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Speaker 1: And who's going to tell you when you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: string thing that's the kiss of death. That's like it

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Speaker 1: was like a phase. Certain doctors do it, and it's horrific.

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Speaker 1: It's very dangerous. It's horrific. But the thing is, you

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Speaker 1: about anybody else. If you're good in your skin, then

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Speaker 1: why I ask you, because but it's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: people and you go, whoa dear, But do you know

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Speaker 1: what you learned for the next time? Wh it's a ship?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a nice person? Are you have

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Speaker 1: you got a good soul? That's soul that really matches.

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Speaker 1: It's the people who have no real humility, real sense

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Speaker 1: We need more role models that are not. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's good. You know what, I'm glad you're saying. If

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Speaker 1: it doesn't bother you, don't look for don't look for

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Speaker 1: aunts at the picnic. Like if I'm not bothered, so

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Speaker 1: people listening, if don't do it because you hear other

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Speaker 1: do it. So that's where I'm gonna stand on vanity

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Speaker 1: and age. I'm gonna stick where I am. Okay, your

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Speaker 1: how much how much do you have your own identity

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Speaker 1: in this relationship? Like you became you were you were

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Speaker 1: you were you were in the music industry, so you've

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Speaker 1: always sort of been in mess. You've been together since

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Speaker 1: you were kids, Like how have you created your own

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Speaker 1: life and your own destiny while so attached and adjacent

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Speaker 1: to someone else. I worked for my father, who was

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Speaker 1: not She's okay, she can she knows what she's talking about.

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Speaker 1: It was always, oh, she's the daughter of But I

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Speaker 1: started to manage Aussie, it was oh, well she's fucking hymn.

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Speaker 1: So you know what. And then I decided in my head,

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going to take this. I know more

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Speaker 1: going to be somebody. And I developed this persona for

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Speaker 1: myself of don't mess with me because I know much

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Speaker 1: more than you. So I would go into meetings and

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Speaker 1: to give me respect. But then they because I was

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Speaker 1: a woman acting that way, she's a bit, she's a bit.

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Speaker 1: But when a guy acts that way, oh he is

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Speaker 1: a tough he don't mess with him. Fifty years ago,

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Speaker 1: I had to develop this that was long before people

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Speaker 1: were always talking about feminism and female empowerment and the

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Speaker 1: glass ceiling and all those things. That's a language that's

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Speaker 1: creeping created that is very valuable. But it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing for me because not until I break it down

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Speaker 1: times that men have tried to explain things to me.

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Speaker 1: I recently did something and I spoke to a man

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Speaker 1: and we're in the exact same position in something, and

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Speaker 1: Like I had to lift my leg and urinate all

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Speaker 1: I've experienced the disparity in the workplace, Like I couldn't

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Speaker 1: I mean. Like you're saying, like I wasn't thinking about

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Speaker 1: my god? But you have to. You know, how many

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Speaker 1: like that's happened a thousand times of men that I've

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Speaker 1: worked I didn't even think about it because that's the

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Speaker 1: way it was. Like imagine be like, oh, nice bulge, Dan, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's just crazy the stuff that we've out with that

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Speaker 1: talking to men the way mentor no, big dick, Hey,

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Speaker 1: someone is just saying something that you got used to.

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Speaker 1: You didn't even realize it, you know. But do you

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Speaker 1: know what, I never was in that bracket because of

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Speaker 1: the way I look, and I used to be two

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Speaker 1: when I come in that room, they'll know who's come

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Speaker 1: in that room. Wow, that's interesting. Okay, So that's another

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Speaker 1: big area for you with your family. Food, food noise,

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Speaker 1: the relationship to food, like the ups and downs. So

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Speaker 1: how do you navigate that? What have you learned about

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Speaker 1: your relationship with your food? Your family's wished of the

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Speaker 1: way that everybody was raised with frankly, a lot of excess,

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Speaker 1: probably excess food, excess drugs, alcohol, highs, lows, famous, not famous,

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Speaker 1: money enough like all that. My kids have seen so

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Speaker 1: much when they were kids, so much. Unfortunately, they've witnessed, roused,

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Speaker 1: people that we've worked with that you know out of it,

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Speaker 1: draw drugs, whatever. And I would always say, you never

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Speaker 1: And it's like that you did it with that and

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Speaker 1: whole life. It's not your fucking job. Massage my neck

426
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: and get the funk out of here. These were your rules,

427
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: you make up. These are wow, so but that never worked.

428
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: The rule, the rule, the rule, the last button on

429
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: the coach, then then then the then the screen gets smaller.

430
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Right now you're on the like O. Then you get

431
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: busted big time because he gets away, he gets away,

432
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: he gets away, and then there's some fucking Russian in

433
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: England and the fucking you know, somebody from Japan coming

434
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: over wants to see more. It's like, your fucking busted me.

435
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: You're busted. But what does that even? Okay, So you

436
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: have kids. Your kids are probably knowing about this, and

437
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: they have a different viewpoint of all this, I'm sure,

438
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: but you're busted. What does that mean? You're married, you

439
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: made a choice to be here, and it sounds like

440
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: you've been. Really, that's an interesting thing. You made a

441
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: choice that those things are not mutually exclusive. That's terrible

442
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: and that's something that is unacceptable at that level based

443
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: on the rules that you guys set with each other.

444
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: But you and as that to the commitment you were married.

445
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: As you get older, as you get old, remember I've

446
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: known him since I was eighteen. As get older and

447
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: you get forty, fifty, sixty, and when it happens when

448
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: you're in your sixties, you're like, you have to be

449
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: fucking joking. This is this is a fucking nightmare, right,

450
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: fucking insanity? Fuck am I doing with you? If you

451
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: don't respect me enough that you are playing games and

452
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: lying con certainly lying about what you're doing, who you're

453
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: talking to, who you're texting, It's like, then you know what,

454
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: I don't respect you, to get the funk out of

455
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: my house. But then does that work. It's the last

456
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: time I did it. I left him. I wouldn't talk

457
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: to him for three months, and he the children were

458
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: my son was like, see your dad and my goals.

459
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: Of course their daddy is, you know, and they shouldn't

460
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: interfere because it isn't their business. They're adults were, you know,

461
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: on the last chapter of our lives, and it's like,

462
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with them, but my goals were

463
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: course with their daddy. And it's just like, this is insanity.

464
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have my last chapter of my

465
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: life with you still fucking going after these. And he

466
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: always went with women. And I know a lot of

467
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: people are going to say to me, oh, you're just

468
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: saying that because you you know, it makes you feel better,

469
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: But he would always go with women that were less

470
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: than because it made him feel bigger. Well also, I mean,

471
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. It literally has so little

472
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: to do with looks in the world. It's someone going

473
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: for someone else to make them feel like a god

474
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: who's not going to nag them about the stupid ship

475
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and what they're eating. And this is the line. This

476
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: is the line. This is what I wear every day

477
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: with my fiance. Okay, Like I don't have makeup, and

478
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: I told you Matt vain so and and he is

479
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: the most loyal person. But men are gonna not like

480
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: we're not making the same effort we used to. And

481
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm not been saying that I even't signed up, but

482
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: no one you didn't sign up with you. Yeah, I'll

483
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: put I'll put myself out what I want to do.

484
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: I walk around. I'm not one of these women that

485
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: do the sexy loans now I know that's the fact.

486
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm fucking years past that anyway, And it's as like, oh,

487
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: in my country, you're a god and love you. All

488
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: this adulation, constant, constant adulation where I go, shut the

489
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: funk up and go eat your broccoli and don't have

490
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: drunk food. Yeah, exactly. It's not sexy to be the wife.

491
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: It's sexy to be the hooker. Yeah, I got it.

492
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: And so after the last time, which of course got everywhere,

493
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassed. There's nothing to me at all. Have

494
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: I done? What have I done? It's him, he's the arshole,

495
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: not me. But the three months I told him to

496
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: stay away, he missed his family. He actually moved in

497
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: with Kelly, and um, he missed his family unit, he

498
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: missed me. He then decided to stop doing the drink

499
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: because he he was Those are related? Those are those

500
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: are related? Drinking and infidelity. I mean it's stupid decisions,

501
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: your judgment. Yes, and he's been ten years clean and sober.

502
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: He's listen. He's been his since forty years. He's been

503
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: trying to get clean and sober. He would go a year,

504
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: he would go a year and a half of them foo,

505
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: he would lose it again. And so periodically through our relationships,

506
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: theres been long terms of sobriety. He'd go out, he'd

507
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: go back into rehab, he clear, clean up. But this

508
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: time it's been a period of ten years and his

509
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: age and where he is in his life, and he's

510
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: wants to make amends to everybody and in particular himself. Nice.

511
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: You just wasted on the young, right. Yeah, he's making amends.

512
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: He's a better person. We are fine. I love him

513
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: more than any man I've ever met in my life.

514
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I was never never a big data or you know,

515
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: I was never one of those women. I was work, work, working,

516
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: each You don't not you. You have no interest in

517
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: going out, and like sexism, what's driving you? That's not

518
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: the void. You want to go shop, You may want

519
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: to go eat, but you don't you having sex is

520
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: not your thing. You're's not your noise. And it happens

521
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot more for men for some reason than women,

522
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: although there are women who have that. But the reason

523
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I what I'm getting to, and this is saying youth

524
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: has waste abound me young. I think a lot of

525
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: young women who just want the dress and the ring

526
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: and the wedding and the stupid ship boy friend. Yes,

527
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: either sports person or he's got to be an entertainer

528
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: or or a racing driver. It's like, come on, or

529
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: just the money. They just want to be taking. They

530
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: don't know what this whole ride is going to be.

531
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: And you've got to look for someone who's going to

532
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: be ride or die and who's going to be in

533
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the foxhole with you. And I think that, you know,

534
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: in talking to Hillary Clinton, it was interesting to me

535
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: because you know, her whole life and relationship has been

536
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: boiled down to a series of infidelities with her husband,

537
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: and I imagine they've had a lot more go on

538
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: in the three d sixty five days of a year

539
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: than just some infidelity, Like why did you stay with him?

540
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Why he's my husband? I made a commitment. These are

541
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: my reasons in my life, on my journey, and this

542
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: is what matters to me and my commitment. Like everybody

543
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: wants to put whatever they think in their mind, the

544
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: construct in their mindor relationships supposed to be on everybody

545
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: else until they're in those shoes. And so I understood

546
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, like, it's not about what someone's doing on

547
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, what do they do in the other three

548
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: sixty four? So I fought around, okay, but what else?

549
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I totally understood Hillary Clinton with every single thing she

550
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: did until she ran for president. And she didn't say

551
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I know what your roles thinking. I know what you're thinking.

552
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: And when she did the debate with Trump, same and

553
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: game Trump had all those women, the first thing I

554
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: would have said was I would have come out and

555
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: let's say, ladies and gentlemen America, I want you all

556
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: to know that Mr Trump has brought several ladies here

557
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: that my husband is like in delities with welcome them.

558
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Please yes, Because I think she should have she should

559
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: have said when she when you go low, I go hot.

560
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: She should have said you going low. But you know

561
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: what I'm getting in the mud with you. The thing

562
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: is that you have a similarity and that you have

563
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: a relationship and a and a lifestyle that seems to

564
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: have defined your relationship. And there's been so much more.

565
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: And I ask you what matters in relationship? We're not

566
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: going to get at all. No one's gonna get someone's

567
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: loyal and rich and caring and bedside so and hot

568
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: or whatever. What what matters? Like what has kept this

569
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: partnership together? Because you have said you love him more

570
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: than anything in the world, and he has definitely publicly

571
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: disrespected you. So what really matters if you're trying to

572
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: get three you know five out of ten things in

573
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: a relationship. What matters to you and to your relationship? Obviously,

574
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I loved him more than any man I've ever known.

575
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: I respect him as a person, and I know that

576
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: sounds funny because at times he definitely hasn't respected me,

577
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: but I expect him. He's the funniest fuck I've ever met.

578
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: In my makes me laugh so much. I know in

579
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: my soul, in my heart, in everything that he says

580
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: to me, that he's never loved anyone the way he

581
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: loves me, and he knows he's disrespected me, he knows

582
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: everything that he's done to me, and he lies beside

583
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: me at night, holds me and says, I'm sorry, I'm here.

584
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I love you. If I could do it all again,

585
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: and what what more can I ask for? I married

586
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: him knowing I was marrying an alcoholic addict. I knew

587
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: that rapstor and so you know, right, I knew what

588
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I was marrying, but I thought I could change him.

589
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: And you have to know you cannot change anyone. They

590
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: have to want to change themselves, better themselves, change themselves.

591
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do. You can lead them to

592
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: a path, but did they take that path? Totally true?

593
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: And even I think about this with staff, with friends,

594
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: with relationships. You can't make a dog a cat. If

595
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: you have a cat, it's a cat. You cannot make

596
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: a dog a cat. You cannot make a cat a dog.

597
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: You have to embrace what someone is. And you did

598
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: marry so yeah, you have to take your a couple.

599
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: But you're married a rock star at it. So there

600
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: you know. I went out with lawyers, I went out

601
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: with accountants. I but did I wanted that type of man. No,

602
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: So I have to have a dark side inside of me.

603
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: But I could have gone for the what was expected

604
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: of me to marry some professional man, and I didn't.

605
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. Yes, So now you you know,

606
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: as much as I always talk about cancelation, my perspective

607
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: is just a viewer that's not like living inside Sharon's

608
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: life or head. Was that you were on the Talk

609
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and I think it was on the Talk talking about

610
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: what Piers Morgan's said, and then you ended up being

611
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: called a racist because of something you said about Piers.

612
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: And then shortly thereafter, for another reason, you are asked

613
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: to leave the show, which I don't believe is separate.

614
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: I believe everything's connected. And then I message you like

615
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: either sorry that happened to you or good you're using

616
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: your voice. I don't know what I said, but I

617
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: felt something for what had happened to you, because I

618
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: too had said a sentence about Maggie Markel and literally

619
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: lost hundreds of thousands of dollars of deals, and like people,

620
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, what just what the fund do?

621
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: What just happened? And now it's popular to talk about

622
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: this person a year later saying the exact same thing

623
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: and not get in trouble, and it's all it's crazy,

624
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: it's insanity, it's insanity. And then the world has put it. Oh,

625
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm team Sharon, Oh I'm team this one here. Political

626
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: or because you say something about a person, you're a

627
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: racist or a Republican orger what if you just have

628
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: an opinion about a person. Yeah, and this thing you say,

629
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: just politics, right, why can't It's very weird to me

630
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: that this country is so huge and there's only two parties.

631
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: That that's what I never understand about this country. If

632
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: you also, if you're not wearing a mask and you

633
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: and you voted for Trump, and if you don't like

634
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Megan Markle, you voted for Trump, like that that what

635
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: does that have to do it? Planity? It's insanity. Yeah,

636
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: pick you up, put you in that box like, hey, hey,

637
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: I like this bit about this party, this bit about

638
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: this party. So I'm in the middle, right, No, yeah,

639
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: if you like the stachio ice cream, you voted for

640
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. I mean it's so arbitra. Yes, it's something.

641
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: It's all like, it's all everybody puts you with these boxes.

642
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh you must be this, you must be this, or

643
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: hold on. My friend happened to know Megan Markle and

644
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: that was never put out here, but he knew Megan

645
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Markle for a year. They would hang. She was the

646
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: one that reached out to him on social media. La

647
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: la la. She was a fan. So many of you.

648
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I know that, yes, I know this because I know

649
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: she also wanted to get on watch What Happens Live

650
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: and they didn't. She wasn't at that point. She was

651
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: just thought she was on suits and wasn't an interesting Yes, nobody,

652
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: did you see did you ever see Megan Markle on

653
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the cover of a magazine when she was in suits?

654
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: Did you ever see her on a late night chat

655
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: show when she was in suits? No? No? And that's

656
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: by the way, it's fine to carry up. It's fine

657
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: what we what we're watching now? And I thought to

658
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: myself because I've spoken out on this a lot, as

659
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, and we have to look within ourselves as

660
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: to what it what bothers us is it's something fraudulent,

661
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: is it's something inauthentic? Why it bothers us? Because we

662
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: have to look at that. I look at myself. Pierce

663
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: has to look at himself. We you know, but I

664
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: I each our own face every day and go are

665
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: you good? Are you bad? You shouldn't have done that? Right?

666
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Why do I think about this and not the brittany thing?

667
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: And I do so. So I today was thinking why

668
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: because to have to be an authority on so many

669
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: things when what you've done is you've been on television

670
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: and you stand at podiums. You are a podium stander

671
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: talking like what you you went to you Valdi And okay,

672
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: you're on a podium talking to people or like you're

673
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: just like you're on a podium tour. So so that

674
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're smarter than me, or because you married

675
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: a prince. You have this institutional knowledge about the world

676
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: that I don't have. And I was saying on here,

677
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: I think that people don't like to be talked down to.

678
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: Did you see what Mandela is now son said, well,

679
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: there was a comment that Megan had made about in

680
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: South Africa. She was told by this actor from Lion King.

681
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Was told by this South African actor that in South

682
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: Africa when she got married, they were dancing in the

683
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: streets like they did when Mandela was released from jail

684
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: after twenty six years in prison. So she she repeated

685
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: that story on her podcast. Now the actor who she

686
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: was was meant to have said, this doesn't recall the conversation.

687
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Does that matter? Yeah, so ah, this is Craiz. Listen.

688
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: After that, Mendellas, Mandela's son turned around and said, how

689
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: can you compare when my father fought sixty My my

690
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: grandfa my grandfather fought sixty years for apartite and you

691
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: just married a white prince. How can you compere? So?

692
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Is he being by it? Is he being struck off?

693
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Is he blacklisted? No? But Sharon, here's the thing that

694
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I think is important for people to know. Timing and

695
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the way I got caught in the cross party, the timing,

696
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: how could I the big, the big partners at these

697
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: major multibillion dollar companies kids and deals with me. I

698
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: was like, what I said a sentence, like, but it's

699
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: okay to say that sentence today. It wasn't a year ago.

700
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: Because tides turn, and it's really hard to be a

701
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: person who's willing to speak your mind when you're supposed

702
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: to wait for it to be popular. It's like, what

703
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the hell? And so the thing now as you say,

704
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: it's like eighteen months later, anybody can say anything. I

705
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: know it's not it wasn't popular them. But that's just

706
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: to say with you, you went through a bit of

707
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: a ship storm and I'm sure upset you mine. It's

708
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: made it that, um, I'm untouchable. I am untouchable in

709
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: this country. I can go to Australia I can go

710
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: to Canada. I can go to not for long. I

711
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think for long, and I

712
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit. But I decided to

713
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: go back in and my friends were like, why the hell.

714
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to. I checked my balance

715
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: on my my bank and I did the show to talk,

716
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: not to stifle and say the same thing everybody else

717
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: is saying. At the filter my pictures, it was like,

718
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: we know what it's like. This is the way I

719
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: felt about it. CBS and a few women that were

720
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: obviously um not liking me, and I thought that they

721
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: did stab me in the back. And the thing is

722
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: that they're going to stop me doing something for for

723
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: me that I love to do. Are they going to

724
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: put the full stop on my career? No way, I

725
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: will not allow that to happen. So it's like you

726
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: just carry on. You carry on. It's like you think, oh,

727
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: time walk here at all. It hasn't killed here. And

728
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: I bet I bet you were coming there too. You

729
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: probably haven't popped your head out enough because you still

730
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: think it's the same way. But just having popped my

731
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: head out, it's different. And my question to you is

732
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: where does Piers lie in all this is he how

733
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: he's on top of the world, doesn't he? So can

734
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: you work with him and do something? We do? We do?

735
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: We do And Piers has been up. See I've known

736
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: him for thirty years and he has always always supported

737
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Aussie and I he adores Aussie. He adores my kids

738
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: as I adore his kids. It's a true friend. And

739
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: when it happened, he was like, you've got to get

740
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: up and fight. You cannot allow this. But also the

741
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: thing about getting up and fighting, I agree with your way.

742
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I agree things get swollen and things are pick that

743
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: and need to do. You need to step back and

744
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: let them heal and then come in a different way.

745
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: You're not a person who just goes to sleep forever.

746
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: But I don't. I'll go and say what I feel

747
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: and then I'll go into my turtle shelf for a

748
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: minute because if it comes too much, I'm nauseated over

749
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: myself and my own thoughts. So you got to pick

750
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: your spots and um. But you're not one who wants

751
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: to be stifled. And where is your career now? Like

752
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: how do you feel about your career now? What do

753
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: you want it to be? And what is it. I'm

754
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: busy and that's what I cannot. I've work since I

755
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: was fifteen, so I'm not going to stop now. Oh

756
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: these new album is coming out tomorrow Sat Camber nine.

757
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: We're doing a movie, a life movie on him. I've

758
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: got three different shows in England I'm working on. So

759
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm fine, You're busy, you're successful, you feel

760
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: financially thrilled, like you're fine. Money is never an issue

761
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: for you, know because I've always had Aussie there great,

762
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: so you don't have that worry. You're doing what you

763
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: want to do and feeling passionate. But don't you also

764
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: feel like for me? So I've never been offered more

765
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: things and have more opportunities. I've never turned more things down.

766
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: I only want to do what I like to do.

767
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: And even like, you know you'll get my publicist, Well,

768
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: this is something and you really should do it, and

769
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: we know it's not paid, but this person did it,

770
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: and that famous person did it and you and I'm like,

771
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: but I don't want to do it. I don't think

772
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: it's going to change anything. I don't want is it

773
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: is it philanthropy? Is it paid? Is it not? Time

774
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: away from my daughter, like is it here in my house?

775
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: These are the things I want. I don't want to

776
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: do things that I that I don't want to do

777
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: that even make a lot of money. I have turned

778
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: down millions of dollars on Housewives, millions of dollars on

779
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: selling stuff on TV, like I keep taking it down

780
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: smaller and this I want to do. I want to

781
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: talk to you. I want to say what I feel.

782
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this. I don't want to do what I

783
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: don't enjoy me to me too. It's like you come

784
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: to a point in your life where what are you

785
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: you want to be? Uh in your face celebrity or

786
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: do you want to be true to yourself? Yes? And

787
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: and and for people even who are even who just

788
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: work in an office or different levels of their career.

789
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: You the muscle like you don't realize even how many

790
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: things you're saying yes to, like as a mother with

791
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: your kids, and with the friends, and with the social

792
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: plans and the traveling Like I went on four trips

793
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: this summer. I realized I don't like to leave my house.

794
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: Why am I going away and packing and transacting and

795
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: doing these things that look good on paper? And then

796
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: you do them, and you're like, that's not even me.

797
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with work. We just say

798
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: yes to so many things. They sound good on a

799
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: calendar four months, your people pleasing yes exactly exactly. You go,

800
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: why the funk am I here? I do want to

801
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: be here? Why did I say yes? Yes? And now

802
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: people that have worked for me, some of them for

803
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: over thirty years, and they go to me, why are

804
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: you saying yes, you're right? And I'm like, you're right,

805
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right because you people, please, sure, I'll

806
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: turn up for you. Yes, I'll be there. I'll do this. Oh,

807
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind if it's twelve hours for well and

808
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: then you're there and you're grabbed. She's like, why am

809
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: I exactly? So we agree on a lot. So I

810
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: just always ask what your rose and your thorn of

811
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: your career work, because sometimes these are surprising, even though

812
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: we talked about so much, Oh, my lord, my roses,

813
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: my husband's career. My thorn was a show that I

814
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: did for v H one. They did what I think

815
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: that they do on Housewives. They'll wind somebody up so

816
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: they know your achilles heel. Wow. Oh yes, and I've

817
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: got this girl's hair extensions and I yank and they

818
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: said something about my husband and I just went. But

819
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: it was a wind up by the production crew because

820
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: this girl didn't have the mentality to think about herself.

821
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: But I've never worked on one of those shows before.

822
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: I love to set you against each other, and that

823
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: was the thorn. That's so amazing. So that's not something

824
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: anyone would ever think. And then last, how are your kids?

825
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: I think great. My son just had his fourth daughter, wow,

826
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: four girls, and Kelly is pregnant and she's due in

827
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: two months. And my eldest daughter is doing her writing

828
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: and living her life and she's as happy as anything.

829
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: So so you're happy every every the band is back together,

830
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: good as he is getting better, you know, with his illness,

831
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: every day is getting stronger and stronger. So my life

832
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: is good and I can honestly say I'm not I'm now.

833
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: I hold no hostilities against anything that was done to

834
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: me except for CBS, and I will never ever forgive

835
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: that network. How can you fight CBS. I didn't want

836
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: to take two three years in core fight in them.

837
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: It's like that would have been two or three years

838
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: out of my life. That's all I would have done

839
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: was do depositions and think about them, and it's like

840
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: you're not worth it. They didn't give me, like it

841
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: was reported millions of dollars when I went, yeah, no,

842
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I never want anyone to say that I was paid

843
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: that money because I wasn't and I don't want their money,

844
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: so it's like, fuck them. That's like a movie, like

845
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: the Roger Ales movie about Fox. It sounds like a

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Speaker 1: documentary and it will happen one day. Yeah, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: better watch out. Um, you're amazing and it's such a

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Speaker 1: good time. I'm so glad I got to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Sharon Osborne legend, married to a legend, so early in

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Speaker 1: the reality television space with her family, that was just exhilarating.

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Speaker 1: People are so filtered and worried, and I always say,

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Speaker 1: just you know, mentioned at all and if you want

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Speaker 1: to take something out, this has not got you at all.

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Speaker 1: But I want to have conversations and really hear about someone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sharon is just a gangster. She was so honest.

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Speaker 1: There's no way she couldn't have been honest. She didn't

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Speaker 1: watch a single comma, not a word, just like me.

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Speaker 1: We are so similar and I always find these similarities

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Speaker 1: in people on the show that I just find extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: I was so amazing. That was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: interviews ever. Sharon gives zero Fox and just amazing, and

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Speaker 1: she went through the goddamn ringer over defending Piers Morgan

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Speaker 1: in relation to Meg and Markel. Like Sharon and I

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Speaker 1: both have a thing that happened to us surrounding Mega Markle.

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Speaker 1: So wow, just an amazing, amazing interview. Thank you for listening.