1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training competition. Here are 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, and 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: we welcome you into the Dog Bowl in Baria. Day 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: number seven, Dave seven right, day seven seven. Yeah, I 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: don't even know what day it is. That's how good 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: this has been. Uh, it's one of those things you 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: just keep grinding. And it's week two Brown's training camp 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: here in Barrie. I'm Jason Gibbs, He's Andrew Gribble. Almost forgot, 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: he's Nick Shook. I almost pointed and said that that's 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: really how this is going today. And we are recapping 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: a busy, busy Thursday here in Barria. Obviously some a 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of news coming down over the last three days, 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: and just wanted to get your guys quick takes. Um 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the Auto Graham statue, Clay Matthews going into the Ring 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: of Honor, and today the announcement of the retirement of 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson that will take place formally tomorrow when he 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: signs his one day contract with the Browns. It's a good, good, 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: good and I'll regard I think it long awaited for 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the first two I think that uh, once the Jim 20 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: brown statue went up a couple of years ago. Everyone 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, who's next. And I think that there 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: was a few candidates out there. I saw some people 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: speculating maybe it's gonna be Paul Brown. But I think 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Auto Graham makes a lot of sense. With it being 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the NFL one hundred year, he has a very good 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: shot of making the NFL's all one team. Like which 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean ten years, ten ten appearances in championship games. 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: You really think of Cleveland Brown's football, you think of 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Auto Graham. That's great, claim Matthews the next day. I 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: think it's if there was a player you wanted to 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: break tradition with and put in the Ring of Honor 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: that has not made the Hall of Fame, he is 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: the perfect candidate. Longtime Brown played here forever and then 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: continue playing after he left here has a legitimate case 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. A lot of people believe 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: he should be already in the Hall of Fame. Uh 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: And I think that this kind of maybe we'll get 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: some momentum going and during voting season, He's never had 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: problems getting the votes at this part of the season. 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: It's when it gets down to about November in December 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: is where we're trying to push him over the edge. 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: And then the today's news of Phil Dawson. I think 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: everyone on Twitter is setting a record for making the 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: same joke about how they need him in the kicking 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: competition today. But clearly, uh, he's he's found the right 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: time to to hang it up. And twenty seasons, most 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of them in Cleveland, so it's only fitting. I mean, 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: it was one of those things you hoped for once 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: he left here. You'd hope that this day, when he 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: decided to retire, that this would come, that he would 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: do it as a Brown, because uh, that's the only 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: way you can really remember him. I think we spanned 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: multiple generations with these announcements this week, you know, Auto 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Graham and really the inception of the Cleveland Browns and 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: the Glory Days what was then known as the greatest 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: show in football, the Paul Brown Browns of those days, 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: and then you know he moved to the Glories the 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Glory Days of the eighties with with Clay Matthews and 59 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: who was you know, uh, I think an installation. You 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: know he was. He was there year after year in 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the linebacking core of these defenses. Some of which were 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: some pretty talented defenses and does have a legitimate case 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. As Andrew said, and then 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: do you kind of get the I think the most 65 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: current generation are the ones who grew up through some 66 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: of the struggles of this franchise. With Phil Dawson, who 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: for many years was this team's only pro bowler and 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: was this team's best player, and he was one of 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the best kickers of his era. And uh, it's great 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: to see him finally come back and retire in the 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Brown and Orange. Is it safe to say since nine, 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe the three best Browns prior to last season, we're 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Phil Dawson, and Josh cripp Yeah. Yeah, it's 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: two of them were special team. Yeah, I mean there was. 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: It was if you want to if you want to 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: make the argument like best careers, clearly those are the 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: three that have had the best careers as Cleveland Browns. 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I think we obviously we in debate who had the 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: best season here there who was the most talented who 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: came through Barria, But those three easily the three best 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: careers that have happened since all three of those I 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: always kind of wonder what might have been the Charles 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Bentley's career had he not suffered that miserably, miserably bad 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: knee injury that ended his career, because I think he 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: could have been in that group. But yeah, I would 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: agree with that those are the best three and fills 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: one of them. And it's an exciting, you know time 88 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: for him to be able to come back in and retire. Well, 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot of great things happening out here in Baria 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: this week, and of course training camp continuing and you know, 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: the guys getting after it today, really hitting it hard, 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: uh spirited practice right from the beginning. There was no 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: law in the early going today, and I thought a 94 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: pretty good day for the offense when when all things 95 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: were said and done. But there were a couple of 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: defensive players that were sitting out today as well. Yeah, 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: I thought the offense looked good even in just like 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: one on ones today, it just felt like they were 99 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: on the same page. A lot of receivers making plays, 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Jarvis's catch today making the rounds on on every form 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: of social media. I mean, he they look great. And 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I thought we saw a lot of O'Dell today and 103 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: I was happy to see. I don't want to see 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a ton of fades throwing his way. But when it, 105 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: when it works, it looks fantastic. I asked for both big, 106 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: big catches, but it's like the fades is like, not 107 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: not the thing he's best at. But he's sure look 108 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: good doing it today, right, And he clearly those two 109 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: were used a lot in with the first team offense 110 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: today and going up against the defense that's a little 111 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: banged up right now, it makes sense why the offense 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: why maybe? And again this goes back to it always 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: feels like a better practice when the offense is doing things, 114 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: so today felt pretty good. It kind of points to, 115 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, the way this game is has tilted in 116 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the way the rules have skewed offense friendly. You know, 117 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 1: it always feels better when the offense is putting up points, 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: not when the defense is stopping an offense, especially when 119 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: it's a team that you're supporting. But you know, looking 120 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: at O'Dell and Jarvis and Baker all in the field 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, and there was that you know, 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: that fade you were talking about that you score a 123 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: touchdown on where Baker basically stopped. Looked over to the 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: two of them lined up. You know, Odell in the slot, 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: drive us out wide and made a little hand motion 126 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: that probably indicated a hot route or a couple of 127 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: hot routes, and they executed flawlessly. O'Dell wins it off 128 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the line. You know, it runs the fade to the 129 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: back pylon. Jervis runs a slant underneath a little bit 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: of a natural rub, not as much as you would expect, 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: and the ball perfectly placed by Big. It looked like 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: they've done that a hundred and fifty times on whatever 133 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: field they practiced on in Los Angeles over the summer. 134 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean it, it was executed to perfection, and it 135 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: just gets excited because you think, man, if they could 136 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: do this kind of thing on game day, just imagine 137 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: what the possibilities are. And that's just a tiny little 138 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: sneak preview of what might be in our future. It 139 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: really is amazing when thirteen goes out onto the football 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: field and how special he is and the things he does, 141 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: even after practice watching him on the jugs machine. If 142 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: you put him out at the fifty yard line and 143 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: just let him do the jugs machine in front of 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: the fan base, it would be in sand and it's fine. 145 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: The things he does and just the level of play 146 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: that he brings to the table when he walks onto 147 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: the football field is just something that Nathan and I 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: were talking about it today. I haven't seen that in 149 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: such a long time here, Even in oh seven, you know, 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: with guys like Braylon and you know one year Wonders, basically, 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: no one came close to having the talent that this 152 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: guy has. When he walks out of the football field, 153 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: it's ton It's like it's a mix of talent, flair, panash, 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: like just total ease in his situation and even when 155 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: he's not like and that's why it's like I'm encouraged 156 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: even more that he's not just tearing up this training 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: camp because I saw a lot of plays they were 158 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Denzel Awards, like Garden him great. I mean that he's 159 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: he's just does it with such flair that you would 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: imagine he could get open on every play. But I 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: think Denzel is doing a good job on him. But 162 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: when he does get open, it just looks so easy, 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: like he just makes everything around him looks so easy. 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: There was a play today where Baker had to avoid 165 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: the rush and stepped up and scrambled to his left 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: and ripped one and I was gonna say, Wow, what 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: a throw, but then you realized it was slightly behind, 168 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and it still was a great throw. And Odell just 169 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: jumped up and plucked it out of the air like 170 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: it was nothing. And that's a difficult catch for ninety 171 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: receivers on this planet, and he just jumped up and 172 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: grabbed it like it was nothing. And I went from 173 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: going wow, I would have thrown to Wow. He's just 174 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable watching him make catches that are not routine look routine. 175 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Is It's never any less impressive. Uh. You mentioned on 176 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: the defensive end, GRIBs the injury bug a little bit. 177 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson sat out today with an abdomen issue. Chad Thomas, Uh, 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of the flu, one would surmise, Olivia 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: Vernon with a hamstring. Uh. Yeah, Gennard Avery is still out. 180 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Should we be getting concerned with some of these injuries that, 181 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: not to mention the offensive guys, Duke and Kareem still 182 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: not practicing set the valve and now Demetrius Harrison concussion. 183 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: You're down to like two tight ends on this football team. Uh. 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Should we be getting concerned, guys, with the fact that 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: we're starting to see all these and we're one week 186 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: out from preseason game number one. I'm not I don't. 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm concerned about winning the game, but 188 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about that at all. Like I don't. 189 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you win that preseason game. But 190 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good mix that what 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Freddy has though, I think because a lot of these 192 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: injuries I think are considered minor. It seems like it's 193 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: like what you have on the one end of the 194 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: spectrum with J. C. Trader hurts his ankle and practice 195 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: gets rolled up on. He expects him to grind through it. 196 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: He wants a physical camp. But at the same time, 197 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I think Freddy also has a good understanding of being 198 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: precaution precautious when necessary with guys, and if guys have 199 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: something that they can make worse, those guys are on 200 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the sidelines. Because you look at a lot of these injuries, 201 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: even an abdomen that's something you can make worse by 202 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: going out there. All these hamstrings guys like that, He's 203 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: quick to be cautious with some of these guys that 204 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna need in a month or so. That I 205 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: think what's more important is the month or so or 206 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: the two months from now, not this preseason game, not 207 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: next week's preston, you know, the preseason game weeks two, three, 208 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: and four. And that might not be you know, the 209 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: best thing that a marketing department when I would want 210 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: to hear. But I'm just telling you right now that 211 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I would much rather have these guys healthy and prepared 212 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: to play in the regular season and these preseason games. 213 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: There's no reason to rush these guys in the field. 214 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: If you've got to be careful with with these injuries 215 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: that they're having, that they're sustaining, Absolutely take as much 216 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: time as you need. And this is also the product 217 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: of a physical camp. You know, if you're gonna if 218 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna bang and and and crack pads and everything 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: else and just go back and forth with these physical practices, 220 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have these issues. But ultimately, if the goal 221 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: is to make a more you know, a tougher team, 222 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: a team they can deal with adversity and perseverey things 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: like that, then that's what you're going to achieve. And 224 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: these this is just some some collateral damage that you'll 225 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: be able to overcome. Other big takeaways from the day, 226 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Nick let's start with you. Uh, well, I mean it 227 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: was a great day for the offense, but you could 228 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: definitely notice when when guys like Sheldon and Olivier are 229 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: not out there, I mean they just the defense did 230 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: not give as much of a pass rush as we've 231 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: seen in days prior, and uh, the offense benefited from that. 232 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of a little bit of 233 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: a cause and effect, but also the second or third 234 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: second straight day in which the offense has really started 235 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: to put it together and they're they're moving the ball, 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily in every possession, but they're scoring, they're they're 237 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: succeeding when they're inside the red zone, they're doing everything 238 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: you really want to see. And uh, you know, especially 239 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: when you have your top playmakers on the field, it's 240 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: great to see them in sync. So it was a 241 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: very encouraging day. I think. From that standpoint, I'll say 242 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: it's been a good couple of days for Antonio Callaway. 243 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: He's had a few he's just he's still in the 244 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: second team, but and then he's now he's continued. He's 245 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: getting he's getting open like he should be against the 246 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: second team, and I think he's making plays. I think 247 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: he's responded to maybe a slow start, and I think 248 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: it was indicated a day from top Monk, and he 249 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: showed up a littld maybe out of shape coming into 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: training camp. I think he's working himself back in. It's 251 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: like the old school football when all those guys used 252 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: to come in out of shape and you know, after 253 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: summer of smoking cigarettes or anything like that. Yeah, it's 254 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe he's a little old school in that regard, 255 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: but he looks fine to me now, and I think 256 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: he's finally Like when he was on the second team 257 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: and not doing stuff, that's when I was worried. But 258 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: then now that he's on the second team still and 259 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: going up against guys that that can't cover him, he's 260 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: doing a great job. Yeah, an Tonio Kelley definitely didn't 261 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: spend his off season selling insurance or you know, you know, drinking, uh, 262 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, some light beers or whatever doing ads for Chesterfields. 263 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the last thing that really stood 264 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: out to me was Ishmael Hyman had a great finish 265 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: to this practice and and it might have not seemed 266 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: like that much, but in the final period and a 267 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: half we had him catch two passes that racked up 268 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: nearly fifty yards in one possession. I mean he carried 269 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: the offense in that possession, the second team offense, and 270 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: then scored in a hard slant you know later in 271 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: the period for a touchdown, and to punctuate it, spiked 272 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: the football in the end zone, you know, in celebration. 273 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: It's basically how they ended practice. It was it was. 274 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: It was a great finish for him. And this is 275 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: a guy who was very much in the conversation for 276 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: one of those last receiver spots. So you know, you're 277 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: always encouraged to see somebody like that succeed, especially when 278 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: they don't get as many reps because the top receivers 279 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: are in the field. So good finish for him. Another 280 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: wide receiver, not to make this all about wide receivers, 281 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: but a guy that I know is called your eye, 282 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Derek Willis continues to impress. He's he's solid. I think 283 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: that's what Freddie wants. He wants the consistency that's in 284 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: this is. It's he doesn't look like a guy. He 285 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: looks like someone who played a full first season, and 286 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I think that's key, and he really didn't. He only 287 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: played a few games and he looks, but he looks 288 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: much more seasoned, like like he belongs out there, has 289 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: the body for it clearly. Uh. And he just has 290 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to keep keep doing this. He remember, he remember the 291 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: one player he made last preseason that basically got him 292 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: on this team, when he chased down a guy on 293 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: an air reception, made a tackle. He's just gotta keep 294 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: doing hustle plays like that, because this is a guy 295 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: where his focus still as many plays he's making his 296 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's got to be what he's doing on 297 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: special teams, all right. That's what happened on Day seven 298 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: out here in Bria. Time now for our interview of 299 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: the day. A good friend, Nick Shook, had a chance 300 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: to sit down with the special teams coordinator of your 301 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Rounds, Mike Preefer. Obviously a man of many talents 302 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and with quite a history, and he is tasked with 303 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: improving a very average special teams unit over the past 304 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: couple of years, one would say, maybe even a little 305 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: bit below average, and trying to figure out who are 306 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: kicker is going to be your big takeaway from the interview, Yeah, 307 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: it was a lackluster unit in the past, for sure. 308 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: This is a guy who lives, breathes, eats, and sleeps 309 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: special teams. He's got the time to kick, time to 310 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: hold all that stuff, hang time for punts, which you 311 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: would hear in his press conference, and also on what 312 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: we discussed just off the top of his head, the 313 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: exact marks for all this stuff, I mean, the technicalities 314 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: of what many people think is as simple as just 315 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: kicking a ball and running down and covering. Uh come 316 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: out in this interview and he explains you know how 317 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: to how to build a special teams with the best 318 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: eleven players you can find and everything else. And it 319 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: really takes you inside the special team's room for the Browns. 320 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: And I think Browns fans will be very pleased with 321 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: what they hear because their special teams units appeared to 322 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: be in very good hands with Mike Prefer. Yeah, no 323 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: question about it. We're big fans of Mike Prefer. He said, 324 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: down with Nick Shook, have a listen. We talked a 325 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: little bit about this, I think in the spring, about 326 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: how you were looking for the best eleven guys on 327 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Special Teams unit. What do you look for in your 328 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: roster when you're trying to fill those positions. So we 329 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of take a look at whenever we do our rankings. Okay, 330 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: we rank each guy by position, So we'll put the 331 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: top safety, special teams, wise pop, top linebackers, top defensive ends, 332 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: running backs, tight ends, at fullbacks, why do shivers, et cetera. 333 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: And then from there we'll build the top twenty or 334 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: twenty five guys that you know. We'll give that list 335 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to Freddie and to John and say, okay, here's who 336 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: we think are going to help us win. Um. I've 337 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: been at places where you might you want to get 338 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: a top twenty five, you might have eighteen guys that 339 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: and and half those guys may not even make it 340 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: at this time. Here you're kind of like making that list. Um, 341 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: So we're looking for guys, um. And we talk about 342 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: our four pillars all the time. We talk about toughness, 343 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: We talked about effort, We talked about discipline, and we 344 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: talked about enthusiasm and passion. And really, if you don't 345 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: start on offens or defense, if you don't love the 346 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: game of football, it's gonna be you're gonna be hard 347 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: best to help us. So I know I've said a 348 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: lot of different things right there, but it's important to 349 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: me that each position you know, they compete against each other, 350 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: and then they compete against the other guys with different 351 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: positions when we're looking at roster cutdown right. So I 352 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that have come to mind, at 353 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: least in watching practice so far have been both a 354 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: guy who's here last year and Derek Willies and also 355 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: a rookie and Sheldrick red Wine. And they both look 356 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: like they've have the potential to contribute on special teams? 357 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Is that the type of guy you're looking for? Absolutely? 358 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: You know that when you look at a ride receiver 359 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: special teams wise, that you look at a guy like 360 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Derek Willis. Now, he's not a returner. Some returners are 361 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna be smaller, but Derek is big. He's strong, he 362 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: can run, he's tough, he's physical. That's the type of 363 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: guy you're looking for at the wide receiver spot, the 364 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: same type of thing that the safety spout to be 365 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: honest with you, like a wide receiver. I'm looking him 366 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: at as a safety special teams wise and my mentality 367 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: and then Shelter fits the bill as well. Sheld is smart, 368 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: he's a he's running our second punt team right now. 369 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: He understands all the calls and the situations. He asked 370 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: good questions. You know, he's stole work in progress, but 371 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: he's come a long way since the spring, and you 372 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: know he's I'm really grad we drafted that young man. 373 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: What about the progression progression of some of the other 374 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: guys that you've added to these units. Well, you've got 375 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, the two rookie linebackers. We have five rookie 376 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: linebackers that are all fighting for the job. And I've 377 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: told them all as I don't care if you're drafted, 378 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're undrafted. Um, the draft of 379 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: guys might get the opportunities a little bit earlier, but 380 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're all going to 381 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: get opportunities to make this football team. So the linebackers 382 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: have been doing a good job. The corners have been 383 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: doing a good job. Receivers, Uh, there's not as many 384 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: of them, but I think they're working hard and doing 385 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: some good things. And um, you know, running back is 386 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: gonna help us. Dontrell hilliards on a nice shot and 387 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: it was his second year correct, dontrelle As really emerged 388 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: as a guy that could be a four core phase 389 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: starter on special teams if he's not running the ball. 390 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: You and I kind of talked about this the other day. Um, 391 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: getting some of these guys acclimated to maybe playing special 392 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: teams with a certain technique that they never got time 393 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: to really learn in college. Um, how many guys have 394 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: really benefited from that in your time here? Well, I 395 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: think I'm hoping everybody that that once you get the 396 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: reps at it. You know, we started talking technique back 397 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: in Phase two, jogging through stuff in here against coaches 398 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: that were covering kick you know, you know, you know, 399 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: jogging down for ten yards the Phase two rules. Um. 400 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: But I think all the guys have really bought in 401 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: if and pretty much all I haven't. I don't know 402 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: if there's any malcontents in that locker room. I think 403 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: we got a great locker room. John, John and Elliott 404 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: and the personal guys have built a great locker room. 405 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Freddie has allowed me to freeom use all those guys, 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's huge when you have the support 407 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: of the head coach and the general manager in the 408 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: personnel department. Um, you know, I think they've done a 409 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: nice job of buying into our techniques. We're trying to 410 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: keep the scheme simple. Right now, we're in preseason. Right now, 411 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: we're not really game planning from everybody. We just want 412 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: to do what we do best, and that's play sound, discipline, 413 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: tough football, and play penalty free football. Speaking of Freddie, um, 414 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: he gives you, you know, I think some prime practice time, 415 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, right in the middle of it. Not you're 416 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: not tacked on at the end. You're not something that 417 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: they get out of the wayt the beginning. Have you 418 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: been able to have you been afforded the luxury of 419 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: that before and other stops or is this something new 420 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: to you? Not really? Um, this has been probably the 421 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: most time and the most uh, the best time of 422 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: practice that I've had. And I've been very fortunately have 423 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: the coaches, other coach I've worked for and given me 424 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: time and support, and they've done a great job. But 425 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: this is I think the way to do it. Right 426 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: after individual and then period ten before this, you know, 427 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: the last two or three offensive defensive periods, because at 428 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: the end of practice it's hard and that's what I'm 429 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: used to and those guys are their gas and they're 430 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: not getting a lot out of it. So the temple 431 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: has been better. The guys are able to work their 432 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: technique a little bit more effectively because they're not as tired. 433 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: And um, so at the end of the day, I 434 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: think we're improving a little bit quicker than we would 435 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: have had another place. That's good because this is a 436 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: team that definitely could need it based on how they 437 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: performed last year. All right, let's get the elephant of 438 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the room. Let's talk about the kicking situation right now, 439 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: and where these guys stand in your opinion. Well, I 440 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: think coming out of the spring they were even the kickers. Um, 441 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: they both had good days and bad days, more good 442 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: than bad, both of them. Um, we haven't started out. 443 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: Austin has not started out as strong as he did 444 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: as he finished the spring, and um, I think Greg's 445 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: in a nice job so far. So but it's August first, 446 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Nick, and I really don't 447 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: think we should even start ranking. I haven't even ranked 448 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: him yet. I think the pre sat a Saturday night 449 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: scrimmage and I'll rank him after that, and then obviously, 450 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: well we'll rank him again after the first preseason game 451 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: and go from there. So Saturday, we fund each guy 452 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: is gonna get five kicks, and they're gonna be pressure situations. 453 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some two minute drills that if the 454 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: offense gets us into field position to if they score touchdown, 455 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: we'll kick the p a t. If not, we'll kick 456 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: a field goal. So there will be some competitive situations 457 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: there that we need to do better than we did 458 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: earlier in camp in the last couple of days where 459 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: we didn't and perform as well in the team periods. 460 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: But I think both guys are they're they're competing, they're 461 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: both very talented. I'm excited about the competition. When you're 462 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: analyzing their kicks, do you put a little bit more 463 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: value in those pressure situations as opposed to when they 464 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: get those four kicks earlier in practice? Um, I treat 465 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: them all the same, But I think in terms of 466 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: getting ready for a game, I think it's the game situations. 467 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: It's the one kick at a time thing that will 468 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: ultimately put us uh, you know, we'll put more weight 469 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: on those kicks. Freddy talked about yesterday. He wants these 470 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: guys to take it really one kick at a time, 471 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: and right now they might be taking it one day 472 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: at a time. Do you think that they're getting closer? 473 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: What he wants. I think so. I think so, And 474 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: again Saturday night will be key. You know, if we 475 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: can if we can get to the point where if 476 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: it gets to the point where we're making those pressure 477 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: kicks in the two minute situation is in the game 478 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: type of situations, then obviously it'll make you Freddie very 479 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: happy and I'll make our football team better. All right, 480 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: So we have one last question. You are somebody with 481 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: local ties here, can you explain to the fans how 482 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: much this job means to you. Um? My daughter Katie 483 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and I who's interning here as you know, with the 484 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: Browns this summer. She and I were talking the other 485 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: day and she said, Dad, did you ever think you'd 486 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: be a coach over the Cleveland Browns. I'm like, uh No, 487 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: that never, that never, That thought never entered my mind. 488 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: I never had a There was never any any thought 489 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: that I ever thought I would be here. I thought 490 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: I would be here. Sorry, um, But the fact that 491 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm here, the fact that I grew up watching this team, 492 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: cheering for this team, understanding the passion of these fans, 493 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty special for me. So you know what we 494 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: can do here? I think we can accomplish great things. 495 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take a lot of work, and we 496 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: gotta take it one day at a time and see 497 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: where we're at. But there's no better fans in the 498 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: NFL than the Cleveland Browns fans. I would agree with that, 499 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: and I think they would too. Thank you very much, Uch, 500 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it all right. We appreciate coach spending 501 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes with us, and as we get into 502 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: our sound bites, uh, we kick things off. The three 503 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: coordinators did talk to the media today as well. Uh, 504 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: Mike prefer more from him and if he's focused more 505 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: on the kickers mental state or mechanics during pressure kicks 506 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: at this time. Mentally, they're both pretty mentally tough and um, 507 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: although they are young, I think they've done a pretty 508 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: good job after miss is coming back and making the 509 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: next one for the most part since the spring, and 510 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: we've been trying to put him in this situation since 511 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: the spring. So I think the more pressure type situation 512 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: we put him and we got to see if they 513 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: can handle it, because like I told all our guys, 514 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: there are kickers and punters and linebackers and safeties on 515 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: other teams in this league that are going to be 516 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: available after the fifty three cut and everybody cuts down 517 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: to fifty three. So it's just because they win and 518 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: beat the other guy out doesn't mean they have the job. 519 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: And that that may sound negative, but it's not. It's 520 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: the truth, and I try to tell him the truth. Um, 521 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: but I think I know we have the right two 522 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: kickers in camp. One of them is gonna win the job, 523 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: and I know we have the right two putters in camp. 524 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: When I'm gonna win the job and we're gonna go both. 525 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: He could win a bunch of games with those guys. 526 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: I thought it was very very interesting. Uh when you 527 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: take a look and take a listen at what do 528 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: he had to say? Uh, one of them, one of 529 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the kickers is going to win the job, but no 530 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: one's guaranteed anything, right, We've we've seen that a few 531 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: times here before. Wasn't it one year where trying to 532 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: remember the year where the Browns got down to fifty 533 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: three and didn't have a kicker as one of the 534 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: fifty three when I had to sign on and went 535 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: out and signed one. I mean that that I believe, 536 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: So I think it was. Yeah, So I think that's 537 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: that that that's a reality. Is it a pleasant thought? No, 538 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to get to that point. Um, but 539 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: you've done it. We saw it a few years ago. 540 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: He did it a punter. He traded Andy Lee, brought 541 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: in a couple of guys and then the preseason didn't 542 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: want either of them, and then got Britain colquit after 543 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: he got cut. So I mean, I think there's this 544 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: happens in special teams. But then he came back in 545 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: that answer and said he believes the two right guys 546 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: are here. Uh, we just need to see both of 547 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: them be better. I think particul killi Austin Cyber. I 548 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: think Joseph has at least been There is a bit 549 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: of a track record from last year. Yeah, I mean, 550 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: he proved he can make field goals. Actually it was 551 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: the extra points that were people pointed out to the 552 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: guy we talked about the top of the show, Phil d. 553 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Austin wasn't the best his first year in the NFL, 554 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: but then he got better. So I think it's one 555 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: of those where clearly you've got the guy who's kicked 556 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: in NFL games, kicked in some real pressure situations to 557 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: some good results, some bad results. But still there's more 558 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: experience there as well. And I'll say this about Gregg 559 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: Joseph and this is nothing against Austin Cyber because we 560 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: just haven't got the opportunity to know him as well 561 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: as we would know Greg since he was here last year. Uh, 562 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna work at it. I mean, he's definitely someone 563 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: who's very focused on his craft, and he's got the 564 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: right guy leading him in Mike Priefer and who also 565 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: talked today about how they changed his approach and and 566 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: how you know, he's worked on becoming a more consistent 567 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: kicker through all of his fundamentals and I think, uh, 568 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: he'll continue to put the work in and maybe we 569 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: have a kicker on this roster. It sounds like, you know, 570 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: according according to Mike Priefer, that one of these two 571 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: guys is go to win the job. Simth punter, someone's 572 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna win. We're gonna have a kicker. We're gonna have 573 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: a punter, and we're gonna have a long snapper when 574 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: we take on the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, balls, movie snapps, 575 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Passes will be thrown. Points may or may not be scored. 576 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: That's the truth of football exactly, all right. Next up, 577 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: a cut that Gribbs. I know you had brought to 578 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: our attention from Todd Monkin, the offensive coordinator. Uh. He 579 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: got grilled on a number of different things today and 580 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: one of the better answers was on Baker Mayfield. You know, 581 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a preconceived notion like a lot of players, 582 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: like just like when I was in Tampa with Jamis. 583 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: You can have a preconceived notion from the outside of 584 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: what you think someone is, and rarely is that really 585 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: who they are. And so you know, at the core 586 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: from a competitive nature standpoint, I've said this many times, 587 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: he is what I thought he was, and I didn't 588 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: have probably any other other than he likes to have fun. 589 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: He loves to play football. But don't confuse that with 590 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: you know that he just clowns around because he doesn't. 591 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: It's important to him. It's important. In the meetings, he 592 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: asked great questions. He wants to be on the same page. 593 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: He wants to be elite, and that's when you're that way. 594 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're all these guys are elite players, 595 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: but he's at the top of that group. They have 596 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: a good relationship. Clearly the people that that we're worried 597 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: that are still asking questions today about a story national 598 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: story four months ago about whether or not Monkin and 599 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: Freddie are getting along and their offenses are merging and 600 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: everything's all hunky dorry. I don't think we have to 601 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: worry about that from all indications. Yeah, and and and 602 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: in regards to Baker, I like the line he had 603 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: about he had pretty he always he acknowledges the human 604 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: nature of you go into a situation and you have 605 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: preconceived notions. He had preconceived notions about Jameis Winston before 606 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: he went there. He came in here with preconceived notions 607 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield, and he addressed that most of the 608 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: time those end up not being true. And I think 609 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: the thing he's brought up before, and I think it's 610 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: something we've seen a lot from Baker this year, is 611 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: that he's out there having a blast, having fun. He's 612 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: got a mustache, he's joking around, but he's all business 613 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: and serious and serious enough to screaming his wide receivers 614 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of a practice front thousands of fans. 615 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's and that's the thing that I think 616 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: keeps standing out to top Monk and is that this 617 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: guy really wants it, wants to be great. The key 618 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: line he said there he wants to be elite. Uh. 619 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: So I think that truly he's he's pleased to be 620 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: around a guy like Baker Mayfield. And I think at 621 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: the end of that interview, it was really interesting, is 622 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: that he talked about being a guy who's been in 623 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: the league, he's calculated with where he goes. He goes 624 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: where he knows he has a good situation. He went 625 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: to Tampa after having a good college career because he 626 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: knew he was loaded with offensive players at that place. 627 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: They didn't have it all together on defense. But he's 628 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: coming into a situation here where he knows he's got 629 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: good players, uh and a good head coach he knows 630 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: he can work with. Well, he's a sought aftermind and 631 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: and you know, like he said, he picks and chooses 632 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: where he can go because you know, he's a guy 633 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: who is in demand. And I think that Baker has 634 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: equipped with two guys who are going to see that 635 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: he has every opportunity to become the best quarterback he 636 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: can be in Monkey and also in in Freddie Kitchens. 637 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: And you know these are he's already got a relationship 638 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: with Freddie. He's building one with Todd right now, and 639 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: before long, hopefully they'll all be working in lockstep and 640 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: and going about this offensive approach the right way and 641 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: putting up tons of points. I mean, that's that's really 642 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the goal there, and um, I'm pleased with the progress 643 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: that we've seen from them so far. Number three of 644 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: three from the coordinators today, defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes basically 645 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: asked why just two linebackers and how does the fifth 646 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: person in the defensive secondary work when it comes to 647 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: your defensive alignment and a little I guess behind the 648 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: scenes as to how this defense will look and play 649 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: here in two thousand and nineteen. I think number one 650 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: what we have to understand first of all is where 651 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: the game is nowadays. You know, they put more speed 652 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: on the field, so you want to make sure that 653 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: you're of a mass deep speed, so uh and looking 654 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: at that, that's the reason why we go with that 655 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: little safety as we consider to be a slash linebacker 656 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: that could play in the in the box and stop 657 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: the run, but also athletic enough right there to be 658 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: able to play in space. And that's how how teams 659 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: trying to get you right by trying to get a 660 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: lineback out in space, and he's got a lot of options. 661 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: That fifth guy in the secondary is gonna be your 662 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: third linebacker, or he's going to be your fifth defensive back, 663 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: or he's going to be an extra safety if you 664 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: if you decide to go that route, it's going to 665 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: be someone very, very versatile. And that's what we've seen 666 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: so far through seven days at camp. You know, I 667 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: think this We've talked a lot about this, and I 668 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: think we'll continue to talk about it, because this is 669 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: probably going to be a look that you're gonna see 670 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: a lot, this whole three safety look. You know that 671 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: you're having a third guy in the field who can 672 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: play the role of a slot corner or whatever else, 673 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a box safety, um whatever term when I used to 674 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: describe a roving defensive back who is also large enough 675 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: to play in a more traditional linebacker role. I think 676 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna do wonders for your defense. Pretty much everywhere 677 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: it's been employed in the last few years, if they 678 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: have the proper personnel for it, it's found success. Even 679 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: guys like Derwin James last year with the Chargers, he 680 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of manned one of those roles early on, and 681 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: was you become kind of an X factor. There's some 682 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: other terms for it. Sometimes they call him like a 683 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: jack or a star. A star defender is another one, 684 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: um And and I think that they have the guys 685 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: here to do that. I think that's why I've seen 686 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot of Germaine Whitehead. And he also, uh, Steve 687 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: also named some other players during that bite who could 688 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: potentially fill those roles. And and I think it's the 689 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: perfect fit based on the personnel that you have and 690 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: the amount of safeties that you you've assembled. And I 691 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: think we'll also see one of the more rare instances 692 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: in which this team might end up keeping more than 693 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: just four safeties in the roster, and I think it's 694 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: gonna bode well for their performance. I think we're gonna 695 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: end up end this camp by basically declaring about sixteen 696 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: defensive players starters. I think that's how what it's gonna 697 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: end up being, maybe maybe fifteen, because just because you're 698 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna include your three safeties a start, you're gonna probably 699 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: line up call three linebackers starters. And then there's a 700 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: variety of different other guys who are were gonna working 701 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: might through your your slot corner, and there's a starter, 702 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have about like a fifteen mann unit. 703 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: You're going to consider starters, and then it's just going 704 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: to be kind of moving pieces all throughout the season. 705 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: There was a question, um I thought illustrated this very well, 706 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: which was directed towards Steve Wilkes, was do you have 707 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: packages for down in distance? And he said no, but 708 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: I have packages for personnel groupings. And I think that's 709 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: the future of football is all about matchups. You know, 710 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to get a linebacker caught against a 711 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: super athletic ten end who's just gonna beat him in 712 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: a race down the field. So you see who they're 713 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: putting out there, and then you send out your personnel 714 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: grouping to match it. And I think they're getting enough 715 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: practice right now with the versatility that they have on 716 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the back end taking out a linebacker, putting in somebody 717 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: else who is more athletic and can do a different 718 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: number of things. With all of that, you know, accounted for, 719 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I think that they'll end up being a better defense 720 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: and and and one that can really react to the 721 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: variety of offenses that we're gonna see because guess what, 722 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: one of the most adventurous offenses in the NFL comes 723 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to town very early in the season, the formula Los 724 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, and they better be prepared for it, no 725 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: question about it all right, Date eight, it is the 726 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: final practice before the scrimmage on Saturday. What can we 727 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: expect to see? Do we do we go hard on 728 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Friday in preparation for Saturday or do we lighten up 729 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: here a little bit? Do you think I would expect 730 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: more of the same. And I'm more intrigued on the 731 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: possibility of Phil Dawson having a front row seat for 732 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: this kicking competition. That'll be interesting, especially on Saturday. Step 733 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: it up in front of front of the goat. That 734 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: would make that make for some good video for sure. UM. 735 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: Traditionally I would think you would slow down a little bit, 736 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: but I don't think that they're going to stop at all. 737 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna maintain course UM on a day 738 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: by day practice schedule because they've got stuff that they've 739 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: got to improve, and they've got stuff that they gotta 740 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: put in and get better at well. And I think 741 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: this is your last week to do that because after 742 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: the scrimmage on Saturday, you're off Sunday. You'll practice Monday 743 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: and Tuesday. But it's a game week. Wednesdays your walk through, 744 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: Thursday's your game. And Freddie said today he's he's he 745 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: only knows is a football coach is having a physical camp. 746 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't know any other way. So and I could 747 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: see it also being like, hey, we practice this morning 748 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: and we have more than twenty four. You have got 749 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: about maybe thirty hours between practices as opposed to twenty four. 750 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: So I could see them going just as physical as 751 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: they have these last couple of days. You know what, 752 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: I think, as long as you stay healthy, it's not 753 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: a big problem, because I think you need to continue. 754 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: They're they're starting to really get on a roll. You know. 755 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: There was some concern going into the off day and 756 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: the day after the off day that I don't know 757 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: if if things are going are getting so hot, but 758 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: they're really starting to get into a rhythm here, and 759 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: I think that they'd be best suited to keep it going. 760 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, wherever you download your podcasts, do so today. 761 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: If you've missed any of our first seven podcasts, We've 762 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: had some great guests, great breakdowns daily on each training 763 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: camp session, and we will continue to do so for 764 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: the next three weeks. You can log onto Cleveland Browns 765 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: dot com or again wherever you get your podcasts, and 766 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow we will be back at it again, practice number 767 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: eight for Andrew Gribble for Nick Shook. I'm Jason Gibbs. 768 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: This has been the best podcast available