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Speaker 2: It's my birthday month, that's right, it is. You're a

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Speaker 2: I'm a Leo, and I've noticed that when my birthday month,

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Speaker 2: August rolls around, crazy things start happening. What it gets hot,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of stuff in the

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Speaker 2: news right now. We've heard about aliens. Like you said earlier,

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Speaker 2: you know, when we were sitting on the couch talking,

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Speaker 2: You're like Joe Biden. There's just Joe Biden period, period, period.

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Speaker 2: There's just stuff all the time. I mean, Pee Wee.

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Speaker 1: Stories, Pee Wee Harmon rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: So sad, I mean, there's just been so many things

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Speaker 2: Angus Cloud there. It's just it's been this overseeming. You know,

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Speaker 2: it hurts my heart.

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Speaker 1: Because of Banks. I have a sick ass supreme knit

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Speaker 1: sweater in my closet and also great entertainment. But he

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Speaker 3: He was a real he was a real one. That's

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Speaker 3: really really sad. I know, I'm just like, so happen, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: pee Wee Pee Wee was also Lizzo. Lizzo's being sued. Why,

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Speaker 3: I know, it's pretty Why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't even heard this. What No,

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Speaker 1: I don't pay attention.

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Speaker 4: To the are you living?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna break it down for you really quickly, and actually,

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Speaker 2: all right, let's start from the top. So Lizzo is

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Speaker 2: being sued, as is her production company, as is her

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Speaker 2: dance captain, shirleyne Quigley. Now, fun fact, ask me why

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Speaker 2: I am Facebook friends with Shirlene?

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Speaker 1: Why are you Facebook friends with Shirlene Quiggly? Great question, babe.

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Speaker 1: We have a mutual friend.

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Speaker 2: I met her a couple of years ago, actually more

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Speaker 2: than a couple of years, years and years ago, and

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Speaker 2: haven't seen her or anything like that, but we are

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Speaker 1: Fun fact.

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Speaker 2: Anyhow, So there's a thirty seven page lawsuit that has

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Speaker 2: gone out against Lizzo, her production company, and her dance captain.

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Speaker 2: And there are nine different complaints, I guess, but a

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Speaker 2: few of them are hostile work environment, religious harassment, racial harassment,

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Speaker 2: and assault. Oh my god, Lizzo.

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Speaker 1: I thought she was supposed to be the poster child

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Speaker 1: for joy and body positivity and like, you know, just

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Speaker 2: I think that that is part of why people are

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Speaker 2: culture of idolizing people. And I think there's one conversation

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Speaker 2: where it's like, look, if you're going to like someone's music,

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Speaker 2: because then when something like this happens, you're so dis pointed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you're so shocked totally. And I think it is

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Speaker 1: But I just feel like, then when you put people

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Speaker 1: up so high, they're only going to fall. It's sad,

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Speaker 1: but that's the way, you know, I was taught about

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Speaker 1: someone to make a lawsuit against you. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: has lived by the woke, died by the woke? Wow

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Speaker 1: by the woke? Yeah, who's woke? Lizzo's woke? True? Well

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Speaker 1: obviously not she out here cousin Lee's lawsuits, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So here's the deal. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: Okay, So three of her dancers have filed this lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: and they were saying that basically after concerts and they

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Speaker 2: going out and having experiences that they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: and that's something that I think really impacts people in

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry they're out here having a whole striper night

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Speaker 1: Was she paying for it? Babes. I'm just saying, Lizzo,

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Speaker 2: So you're just saying that she had employed me, she

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, it's not fair that if you

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Speaker 1: these acts. That is unfair and requires justice. But I'm

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Speaker 2: And totally I guess. But those dancers also witnessed preferential treatment.

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Speaker 2: So it was like people who did go and probably

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Speaker 1: In a workspace, you.

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Speaker 2: Can't have that. That does create a toxic work environment.

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Speaker 2: it just takes one person to start talking about it, like,

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Speaker 2: have you seen or witnessed things not like this but similar.

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Speaker 1: To I mean, I'm sure I have. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: let's keep going. If you don't make me laugh, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to acting class. But like I never really

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Speaker 1: anything was up for grabs, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: nobody said anything until you know, hashtag me too came out.

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Speaker 1: It was just a part of the lexicon of entertainment

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Speaker 2: And do you feel like tour life is so different?

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Speaker 1: Have, right. I mean again, you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: Mandy Moore and all of them.

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Speaker 5: Like Sink and Mandy Moore. I'm sorry, what say it again?

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Speaker 5: Not marciting say it again? I already dropped it. Catch

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Speaker 5: it when you can. But when I was on tour

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Speaker 5: And obviously I did not change in front of them,

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Speaker 1: Be that's a boundary. However, you know, we had our fun.

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Speaker 1: We were at fairs, we were here, and then I

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Speaker 1: within reason of respective age boundaries, about their nights, and

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Speaker 1: then I was like, I can't wait to go on

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Speaker 1: you become quote unquote family, and the lines of boss

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of I'm sorry to keep going.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of celebrities who hold such power

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's really a really hard place to be

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Speaker 2: in when you are stuck between Okay, my job matters

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Speaker 2: the motivation is for you. I mean, there is like

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Speaker 2: the opportunity. But then also ethically and morally being like

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Speaker 2: this is wrong, and I think too. It's like in

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Speaker 2: not happy and said, I'm going to re audition all

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Speaker 1: Twelve hour audition.

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Speaker 2: People were afraid to leave, and one of the dancers,

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Speaker 2: who's who's filing this claim urinated on herself because she

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Speaker 2: how are so many people co signing onto that being

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Speaker 2: okay meaning not having a break, pushing someone to the

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Speaker 2: then also like what that?

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Speaker 1: I know why because she's the top artist in America

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Speaker 1: up underneath Beyonce, Lizzo is he?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, babe speaking out Beyonce. That's another thing

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Speaker 2: that happened. Beyonce apparently has a lyric in one of

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Speaker 2: her songs where she says something about Lizzo Lizzolozzo, and

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Speaker 2: in one of her recent concerts she did not say

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Speaker 1: She's just a bad, bad bad I mean I like

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Speaker 1: that better anyway, But.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's that's a statement without making a statement.

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Speaker 1: My question is, Lizzo, what's you about to do? Because

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Speaker 1: What is our society going to do? Because we love

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's sad and she shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 2: Murky area within that world. But I know that from

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Speaker 1: Find me someone in America that doesn't have mental health issues.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't throw a broom, what is it?

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Speaker 2: And it became this thing right And I knew this

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Speaker 1: job title? Her job title is captain of dance squad. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I just want to know how much money they're going for,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I hope justice prevails, which every way

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Speaker 4: Let's spind the wheel. And the word is augmentation.

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Speaker 1: Augmentation us all mentation me. I feel like, okay, weel,

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Speaker 1: you just grew up. She's got a real adult on us.

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Speaker 2: When I hear augmentation, the first thing I think of

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Speaker 1: Let you you know, it's finny. My dad had lip augmentation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a certain yeah. Because when I hear augmentation,

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Speaker 2: I go, okay, plastic surgery.

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Speaker 1: Or recipes recipes for augmentation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I think about Ina Garten, who

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Speaker 2: who makes caramelized onions in olive oil and butter, And

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Speaker 1: I don't even think about Aina because I don't like

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Speaker 1: I always think about plastic surgery.

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Speaker 2: I mean I read an article today that said that

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Speaker 1: I wonder if any of them were going to my

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Speaker 2: Oh, Sharon is nipped and tucked tunny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to the same plastic surgeon. I had

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Speaker 1: Did you say, what should I.

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Speaker 1: My god, what I know? Because you know, I've never

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Speaker 4: I know that body.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's all the scars. But what's making you decided

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, biggerbuds of the four thousand people listening, I.

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Speaker 1: Love those yo, four thousand yop loved your show. We

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Speaker 1: My dad suggested strongly that I should get my breast reduced.

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Speaker 2: Wait, So did you go to like a recovery center?

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Speaker 1: You to have seizure. No, for sure, when I had

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Speaker 2: And maybe that was just a lot for the body

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I asked that because one time my mom told me

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, now you've had a nice little

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Speaker 1: See you're it's funny. It's funny you said that because

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Speaker 1: You are. No, I'm not, you're not. What are you?

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Speaker 1: A body? I like the body, the faulting body. You

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Speaker 2: But you I've heard you say, look at them titties

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think so. I think I

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Speaker 2: could have a little bit more junk in my trunk

435
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: or a little bit more of a titty and it

436
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Speaker 2: would make me feel sometime of way.

437
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Speaker 1: Oh, you can look at your body and be like

438
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: you are perfectly proportionate to your length and size and

439
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: hair color. This is true. Couldn't use my hair color? Yeah,

440
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: get out of here. Oh my god, what do you say?

441
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: What do you really say it? I'm saying that I

442
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: love your body. Thank you? I really love your body too,

443
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: thank you. That's what I'm even with all its scars,

444
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: all of its scars emotional and physical.

445
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: I mean scar tissue though. That's a real thing, and

446
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: I think that people should talk more about how to

447
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: handle themselves post procedure, post augmentation.

448
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: Because.

449
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: Scar tissue holds trauma, like you've said before, and there

450
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: are certain things you can do to help avoid creating

451
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: greater scar tissue, like lymphatic massage and drainage and things

452
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: like that.

453
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: And cupping, like my wife really got me into cupping

454
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: because of my scars, and because I've been going, like

455
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: my skin is loosening after so many years, and I

456
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: can like digest better after so many years. And it's

457
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: interesting that you said that there's so many augmentations happening

458
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: during the strike, because I wonder if they're going to

459
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: claim it. You know, there's so many beauty influencers down there.

460
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was born like this, Mitch, know you weren't.

461
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: I see the triangle inside of the nose cavity. I know,

462
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: damn well, you got your nose done.

463
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: Those That's an interesting thing because you know those celebrity

464
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: instagrams where they compare of persons before and afters. I

465
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: was thinking about that recently because I saw a picture

466
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 2: of myself when I was like twelve years old, and

467
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: I look at myself now as a thirty six year old,

468
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: and you've even done this with me. Well, you've looked

469
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: at me and you're like, you sure you to get

470
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Speaker 2: your nose done, Miranda, you sure? And I did not

471
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Speaker 2: get my nose done. I have not had any work

472
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 2: done to my face. And what has happened is my

473
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: face is changed as I've grown. Yeah, and that does

474
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Speaker 2: happen to people.

475
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Speaker 1: And it does happen, and sometimes people start so young

476
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: and you don't even know what your face is going

477
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Speaker 1: to end up looking like.

478
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's really scary and toxic for people,

479
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: because when there isn't appropriate communication about what's happening, or

480
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: young girls like the ages of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen are

481
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: having procedures done without giving their bodies time to really settle,

482
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: then you never know because listen, twelve year old me

483
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: would have totally been like, sign me up for buckle

484
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: fat removal, sign me up for the chin and plants,

485
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 2: sign me up for the nose job, sign me up

486
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: for that, I don't know forehead rising.

487
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Sign me up for all she was on a forehead.

488
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Speaker 1: She actually wants a six head? Who wants a six head? Yeah?

489
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Speaker 1: I want to a sixth head.

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Speaker 2: But my point is I would have done all of

491
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Speaker 2: those things then, not knowing that puberty age time would

492
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: have changed my face kind of naturally, like I my

493
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: nose slimmed out somehow, like my face elongated. But that's

494
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: just part of what happens. And my point was that,

495
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Speaker 2: like when we see some of these comparisons, you see

496
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: like young Margot Robbie next to Margot Robbie today, I

497
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: do not know if she has or hasn't had work done.

498
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: So I am kind of just like her augmentation of

499
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Speaker 1: any kind. Yep.

500
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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of pulling this out of my ass.

501
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: But like she could be like me and just have

502
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: been somebody who face changed. But these websites are going, oh,

503
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: she did this to her nose and she shaved this down,

504
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: and then young girls are seeking it out.

505
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Speaker 1: So what I hear you saying is that Kylie Jenner

506
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Speaker 1: is actually natural. Clearly, this is great to take to

507
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: our therapist because this is proof of how we don't

508
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: communicate well, because I want anything about Kylie Jenner, what

509
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: is that Kylie Jenner grew up looking like that's what

510
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: she looked like when she grew up.

511
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Speaker 2: Hell no, we can tell that Kylie Jenner has had

512
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: work done because Megan Deciable grew up and looked like that. No,

513
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: Megan Fox, Kylie Jenner, their work is undeniable. You you

514
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: see such a significant change. But I'm talking the more subtle.

515
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: I'm talking about when you see somebody put like j

516
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: Loo at the age of fifteen next to Jaylo at

517
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: the ages just.

518
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: Don't talk about Jlo.

519
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: She's queen next to Jaylo at the age of fifty three,

520
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: and they're like, look, she's clearly had this, done this,

521
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: done this. And then what I'm saying is it just

522
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: plants the seed in some people's heads to think that

523
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: that's what they have to have to attain that where

524
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, look, give yourself a little bit more time

525
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: and make the decision at twenty five.

526
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: I think that there's some people like Jlo where it's like, Okay,

527
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: your augmentation. If you did anything was beautifully done. You

528
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: didn't just pick it out of a book. You did

529
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: it to make sure that you stay fresh in light.

530
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: There's some augmentations out there that I'm like, you look crazy,

531
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: you look absolutely crazy. And then there's some where I'm like,

532
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: whoa if you didn't have that, you know what. I'm

533
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: happy you got that augmentation because you needed it. But

534
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the times where in this plastic surgery

535
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: world for beauties standards, I don't agree with needing it.

536
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, I see a lot of lip fillers. I

537
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: see a lot of cheek fillers, see a lot of this,

538
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, maybe not for you, Like you could

539
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: have found the beauty in your natural state and allowed

540
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, someone who might have gone through a car

541
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: crash who needed lip reconstruction or you know, cheek bone

542
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: reconstruction zygomatic arch reconstruction for those cheek implants. Sorry, what

543
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: this is zygomatic arch. It's the bone that makes your

544
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: cheek bone. Wow. I'm a painter, Okay, I paint. I

545
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: know the body. But I think that Patilla, I think

546
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: that it is true of babes. It's like you've got

547
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: to let your body settle in what it's going to do.

548
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are people at a

549
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: young age like you know my septum. I have a

550
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: deviated septum. You know my eye is kirk and I

551
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: got to tuck my ears. It's like this ideal even

552
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: before you grow into who you are, that our society, parents,

553
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: family members, royal. I mean that was that has been

554
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: going on for forever around the world. This is very true.

555
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: So do you regret having something done so young because

556
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: you didn't really let yourself settle?

557
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I regret it because they grew

558
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: back and but not to that of a size. No,

559
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: but not that bit of the size. And I say

560
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: that because if I didn't have it and they grew

561
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: the way they grew now with my titties hang to

562
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: my ankles, you know what I mean? Like, did I

563
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: prevent double z's from happening rather than just sitting in

564
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: a nice double D cut right now?

565
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: Do you regret the fact that I can't say? Do

566
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: you titties hang low? Do they because you got them?

567
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 5: They do?

568
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: Hush it, but not that low where I'd be saying

569
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: that song to you?

570
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Do you regret that?

571
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: Can you tie them in?

572
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: And that?

573
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: Can you tie him in a bow?

574
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Can you throw? Though?

575
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Neither confirm nor deny it. I'm gonna confirm that. I

576
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: can confirm that that's like your party trick.

577
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: They're still snackable. Listen, I can't believe we're talking about this.

578
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about my taties anymore. All right, Well, I.

579
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Just mean in terms of like your relationship to yourself

580
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: and if that when you I know you said you

581
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: just associated, but if you had a moment of like,

582
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: oh wow, I feel amazing now or I feel different

583
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: or I feel great.

584
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, shirts fit, shirts fit well. But even though

585
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I got the breast reduction, nobody knew at that age,

586
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: and I still got reamed through social media because I

587
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: wasn't as skinny as everybody else and they still call

588
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: me fat. So it's like, you get that done and

589
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: it's still not what everybody wanted to see. So it's

590
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: kind of in that mindset of I could have or

591
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: I could have not. I mean what it did do, though,

592
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: is like remind me how important it is that if

593
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: you want something changed in your body, live with it

594
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer, like we were talking about,

595
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: to see if it changes, and get therapy before that happens.

596
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Because you know, a tummy tuck or liposuction, you know,

597
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: the smaller versions of it actually work. Like if you're

598
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: just trying to do a little love handle here and there,

599
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, tip tip tip. But if you're trying

600
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: to do what I was trying to do, which was

601
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: like get rid of belly fat, that it didn't get

602
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: rid of my belly fat because what was actually happening

603
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: was that my liver and my body was my hormones

604
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: were off. So I was going to gain weight whether

605
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: or not I had light but or not.

606
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if you're looking for a quick fix,

607
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: or if you're looking for something to try and or

608
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: if you're trying to attain something that you've idealized, like

609
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: a certain figure, then it's probably not ideal. I think

610
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: that if you are in a position to go, okay,

611
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: I just want to like make this little tweak, this enhancement,

612
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: and then I'm going to feel so much better about myself.

613
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: That's I deleted that everyone has that progative. And I

614
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: mean like, look, there's a lot of people that have

615
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: had augmentations, like a Pamela Anderson, like a Black China,

616
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: like some of the these women out here now they're

617
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: like I'm taking them out. I'm over it. I don't

618
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: want that look anymore. Well, not that long ago.

619
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Actually, Kylie Jenner, speaking of Kylie, who's all natural, she's

620
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: all natural, talked about regretting getting breast and plants. I

621
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: think at the age of nineteen, and I didn't listen

622
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 2: to the full thing, so bear with me, but I

623
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: know she was saying that she regretted it, and I

624
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: know she was saying she wished she had waited. I

625
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: don't know if she's had her breast implants removed, but

626
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: she said after having kids in particular, it was a

627
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: very different breast experience.

628
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: It's a total sense. It makes total sense, and it

629
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: also just feeds into the narrative that as society gets older,

630
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: stick with me, body styles change and they return. Roman times,

631
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: the thick girl was in Okay. You could not tell

632
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: a Roman man for nothing that a skinny girl was beautiful.

633
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: She needed hips, booty and titties. Then nineties America, if

634
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: you didn't look like you haven't eaten in years, you're

635
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: not going to beautiful heroin, heroin chic, and then the

636
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Kardashian era. If you didn't look like you were skinny

637
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: as hell, would you got a big ol'd air and

638
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: then it didn't work? And you know, corsets from the

639
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds to now. It's like humans will change what

640
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: a beauty standard is at a drop of the dime.

641
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: And the fact that we have technology to augment our

642
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 1: bodies in a such invasive way injections now we have

643
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: to liquidize those injections because what the material was used

644
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: for was dangerous. Like it's just a constant, cyclical pattern,

645
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: which is another reason why I'm like, maybe just wait,

646
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: wait until you get a little bit older, see what

647
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: the trend is. Because all those people who plucked their

648
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: eyebrows to augment their eyebrows back in the nineties, they're

649
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: not happy right now because they can't crow bay.

650
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: But that's even coming back now.

651
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Thanks me.

652
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: About now, there's this whole thing with TikTok doing those

653
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 2: things for you. There's filters that like show you what

654
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: you look like with different eyebrow styles, and would show

655
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: you what you look like if you had love filler,

656
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: And it's giving people ideas as to what they might

657
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: look like and if they want to do it. So

658
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: I feel like we're such a hodgepodge of things But

659
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: one thing that you said that stuck out to me

660
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: is you said that humans are doing these things, and

661
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's humans or if it's men setting

662
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: these standards.

663
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: Do you how much I think it's men, and then

664
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: a couple of those women underneath the men that like

665
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: to just tute a man on. But I think it's

666
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's companies. I think it's companies,

667
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's the men that run those companies.

668
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: But I do believe there are some women in there

669
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: who set a standard of what is beautiful, but they

670
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: could be influenced by a man, because we do have

671
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: women in power from back in the day that did

672
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: not pick a beautiful black woman in her thickness over

673
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: a skinny white woman because they felt that the white

674
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: women would sell more magazines. So there are women that

675
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: has also prevented body images, you know what I mean.

676
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: But on an overall, I think men are a huge

677
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: culprit when it comes to women's beauty and what we

678
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: do to make sure the man can look at us

679
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: in a certain way. You know. I think that's definitely

680
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: a part of our society.

681
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I mean, I definitely heard

682
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: you say that your father strongly suggested you do that.

683
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: I know for me, I've had experiences with my own

684
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: dad where comments were made. One thing my dad, I

685
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: remember he told me that I should have all of

686
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: my freckles and moles removed and that would make me

687
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: essentially more beautiful. He was like, there's just too many

688
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: of them. And I was young at that age, and

689
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: I remember really changing how I related to those spots

690
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: on my skin.

691
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: And here's the deal.

692
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: I understand, if you have like something that's hanging off

693
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: of you or getting caught in your jewelry, sure then

694
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: maybe you go do that to enhance your quality of life.

695
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: But I didn't have that situation. And then at the

696
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 2: age of whatever, I was eight nine thinking, oh man,

697
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: I have to do this, which in my mind it

698
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: was considered painful to.

699
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Be considered okay.

700
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And can you imagine if I had done all

701
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: of that, you wouldn't have anyone to play connect the

702
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: dot on.

703
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: I know, Babes, I really like your moles. And that's

704
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like everything is through the lens of

705
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: another person until you're able to take those lenses off

706
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: and sharpen your own lenses anything between you know, born

707
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say eighteen because that's what the law says,

708
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: but I think it's a little bit younger. I think

709
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: right around thirteen fourteen, you start seeing yourself a little

710
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: bit more, but you start seeing yourself for the lens

711
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: of what your parents have told you about yourself and

712
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: what your friends have told you about yourself. And if

713
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: you have a human in your family that is critical

714
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: of your size, that is critical of what your hair

715
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: color looks like, that is critical of how you write,

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: critical of how you speak, you're going to start soaking

717
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: up that and augmenting yourself to make that person happy.

718
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: But that's not making you happy. That's just making sure

719
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 1: that you have a safe environment so you don't feel

720
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: that criticism. And as we get older, that thought process

721
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: changes into this is what's wrong with me? And then

722
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: we start having self doubt and lack of confidence. And

723
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: it's sad because rarely, rarely will a child grow up

724
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and feel like they are absolutely perfect left and right.

725
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: We play like we do. We put it as our mask,

726
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: but you know, even if somebody was like, ugh, you're

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: skip wrong, that might scar a child one day. Yeah,

728
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: And then the next day, like you skip, well, and

729
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: the child's like, well, which one I don't know?

730
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, And you never know how sensitive that

731
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: child is and how deeply they'll receive that criticism, because

732
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: you often hear people say things like, you know, I

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: grew up under the same roof as this person and

734
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: we have the same parents. But at the same time,

735
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because I used to be

736
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: someone who said that I would compare myself to my

737
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: sister and be like Mimi and I grew up under

738
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: the same roof with the same parents. But then I

739
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: realized we didn't have the same parents.

740
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: We didn't, but we didn't have the same parent dynamic.

741
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: You have the same parents, you didn't have the same

742
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: parent dynamic, right, But they were different people.

743
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: By the time that my sister was born and my

744
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: father left when my sister was two I was seven.

745
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: My mom's mental state was different, the world was different.

746
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: There were five years had passed. They already had the

747
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: experience of a first child, like she did, have a

748
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: different experience and different messaging.

749
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: And the younger ones always do. It's always the first kids,

750
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: especially in the years that we were born. Yeah, parents

751
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: were different back then. It's totally true, you know. I

752
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: mean second kid, oh they failed, they good first kid.

753
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: I mean that still exists. I see that even with

754
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: my friends who are having kids right now. Where the

755
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: first one it's like I am so terrified to feed

756
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: them solids, and the second one is being fed solids

757
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: by the first one, exactly.

758
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: And then it's also, like you said, even though you're

759
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: growing under the same roof and you have parents, even

760
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: though they will grow up after certain kids grow up,

761
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: it's still a different human Just because you come from

762
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: the same body doesn't make you that person. You are

763
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: your own person with similar attributes and jeans, but you

764
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: are a different human being, with a different spirit and

765
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: a different path. And you will sit at the table

766
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: with you know, chicken, rice and gravy. One kid just

767
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: wants the rice. One kid just wants the chicken. That

768
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: shows you right there that they are going to experience

769
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: things different. I want everything. Oh my god. I used

770
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: to be so jealous of my brother because he would

771
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: be able to get chicken, rice and gravy, and they

772
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: were like, no, just chicken for you. You got to like

773
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: keep your weight in link chicken, ricegar My mama would

774
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: make it you would put rice and chicken inside of

775
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: a casserole dish and then cover it in a mushroom

776
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: soup from Campumbells. Oh my god, but I used to

777
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: eat that. It was just out out that he would

778
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: have that.

779
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: I've never had that. I've never had that. Oh it's

780
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: so condensed mushroom souits, so I feel like it's always

781
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: in green bean castle.

782
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, we didn't really make that. That's a

783
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: little bit in here on your side of the street.

784
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: On our side, I have never been to a white

785
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: people Thanksgiving that had cream bean castrole just saying I

786
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: have So is there anything else that you would augment

787
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: about yourself about myself?

788
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I would have an eyebrow transplant. What Yeah, the

789
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: way my eyebrows grow, you guys can check it out.

790
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: You can google me. And when I was a child,

791
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: my eyebrows grew upside down, let around. I had this

792
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: conversation so many times. But I have them tattooed now

793
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: because there was a point in my career where my

794
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: father was like, time to get your eyebrows taken off.

795
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: They look too weird, and so got them shaved off,

796
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: and then I started drawing them in. But now that's see.

797
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: It kind of goes back to the trend thing that

798
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: you were talking about, because now so many people are

799
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: getting micro blading, which is what you do right, or microplaning.

800
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I get the microblating. I got micro blading because my

801
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: eyebrows don't grow right. So I used to get like

802
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: judged for going out without drawing my eyebrows. In my

803
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: Grandma used to call me that bird, remember the bird

804
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: from Snoopy would stop because she said that my eyebrows

805
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: looked like his feet. So I was like, all right, Grandma, okay,

806
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: so rest in peace, lady. But I was like, let

807
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: me get him to add it because I don't like

808
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: to draw, you know, I don't want to makeup. Yeah,

809
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I got him micro bladed and I

810
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: love him. But it is because back in the nineties,

811
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: in the early I mean in the late eighties, I

812
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: wore my eyebrows and nobody tripped.

813
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is so crazy, is like back

814
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: then when that was happening to you, no one was

815
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: talking about it. Nobody would have been like, oh.

816
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: It's fine.

817
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: And now fast forward, there's a solution for it, and

818
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: so many women, even women with not upside down backwards,

819
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: see through eyebrows are doing this thing, and so it's

820
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: kind of proves your point of atting things, settle a

821
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: little bit in yourself and then seeing where the cards

822
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: kind of fall. Because society, culture will dictate something in

823
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: this world standards.

824
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: I literally believe that one because when I was younger

825
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: in the industry, thick girls, big girls were not popular.

826
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

827
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: It was just like, you're fat, plain and simple. You

828
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: have to be the best friend. If you're black, you

829
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: have to. And then now thanks to people like Lizo,

830
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: I guess people are giving her the credit for it.

831
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Thick girls and bigger girls are out here thriving in

832
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: their best bodies. But you know, just one hundred I

833
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: was thick my whole life. So for all of those

834
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: that were hating on me, I stayed that way. You're welcome.

835
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: You're just a singular soldier, one person marching.

836
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: There were some I remember, there were some girls in

837
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: the industry. I'm like, how come they're not getting like

838
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Amber Tamblin. She had hits her whole life. Yeah she

839
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: still does, she still does. And I appreciated that about her,

840
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then there were other

841
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: ladies out here that just always skinny in that we

842
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: were you know, paired up against and it's just not

843
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: you know.

844
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: It's so wild to me how some people are just

845
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: so comfortable in their bodies and then other people are

846
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: so uncomfortable in their bodies, And I wonder how much

847
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: of it, Like, I would love to do a study

848
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: and see how many of the people who are really

849
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: comfortable grew up with parents who were encouraging them, or

850
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: grew up with you know, people that mirrored like looking

851
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: shaped to them with confidence versus how many of the

852
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: people who are uncomfortable had negative messaging and see where

853
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: the cards kind of fall, because it really fascinates me,

854
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: especially as somebody who's had so much discomfort in their

855
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: body and so much confusion. It would just be so

856
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: interesting to me to know where this all comes from.

857
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Really, can I can I actually bring up another type

858
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: of augmentation? Yeah? Bonsai trees. Oh, bonsai tree is an

859
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: augmented tree. Humans manipulated to make those shapes for quote

860
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: unquote aesthetic beauty. We do it to plants, Oh my god,

861
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: we do it. Tell probably so many more things. We

862
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: do it to so many things. We augment so many

863
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: things because we think we can make it more beautiful.

864
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: We think if we change something. I brought that up

865
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: be with. We have a couple money trees in the

866
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: room and I'm like, oh my goodness. You know a

867
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: bond side designer that is a family business. It takes

868
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: sixty eighty years, yeah, to create these beautiful pieces of art.

869
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: But they're augmenting, they're manipulating. They're changing the natural structure

870
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: of this tree or a clipping, and like you said,

871
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: a study. But the thing is is we've been doing

872
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: that forever. We take a piece of rock and we

873
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: augment it to turn it into an arrowhead, to kill,

874
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: to eat. That's all humans know how to do, is

875
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: to change from its natural state to make something quote

876
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: unquote better or useful for us. So it's embedded in

877
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: our system. I agree. I agree.

878
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: That's so interesting to think of that way and to

879
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: see it in other forms of things that we deem beautiful.

880
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: We augment cows to make it wago. Oh yeah, we do.

881
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: We augment the feeding of a duck to make fog

882
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: wah like mean foga. We are always augmenting. How about

883
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: you catch that in your sock and suck on it.

884
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: Catch that in your sock and suck on it. It's true, babes,

885
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: we are master augmentors.

886
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: Wow, human beings just do that.

887
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: But I guess what I get try to get at

888
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: or would like to know the root of is where

889
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: that standard of beauty is created?

890
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Like who decides what is beautiful? What is worth augmenting?

891
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: What is exactly?

892
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 7: He says that that's okay, exactly and do the study.

893
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: There's a game on the horizon.

894
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: Let's play a game. For today's game, babe, And with

895
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: the theme of augmentation, We're going to get two different

896
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: plastic surgery procedures and we have to decide which is

897
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: more expensive done. These numbers are from the twenty twenty

898
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Esthetic Plastic Surgery National Databank Statistics and two hundred and

899
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: eighty eight participating plastic surgery practices across the United States

900
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: of America.

901
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go, Let's go. These numbers only reflect

902
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: standard procedure costs, which include surgeon and facility fees, and

903
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: may not include fees for anesthesia, medical tests, prescriptions, surgical garments,

904
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: or other miscellaneous costs related to your procedures, which is aftercare.

905
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Gets yeah, right, whoever gets two right first wins and

906
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: the loser must read our final podcast credits and the

907
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: weirdest voice they can come up with.

908
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. I mean, I hope I lose.

909
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: I hope I win the chance to lose.

910
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh, that's how you play a game of some kind.

911
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: Let's play.

912
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, which is more expensive?

913
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Okay?

914
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: A Brazilian butt lift or a tummy tuck?

915
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it. A Brazilian butt lift requires

916
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: an implant also known as the bbl Oh, the bbl

917
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: a butt implant, some injections here and there. A tummy

918
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: tuck requires the corset snatch along with your abdomen being

919
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: pulled down in a reconstruction and taking out of the

920
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: belly fat by the FUPA.

921
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: And maybe and maybe a new belly button.

922
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: A reconstructed belly button. They'll move it and change it

923
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: to where it needs to go. They also have to

924
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: take into consumer iteration, like the stretching of the skin.

925
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say a tummy tuck is more expensive. Oh,

926
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Brazilian butt left. Okay, who's right? Oh,

927
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm a rat. The tummy tuck is more expensive. There's

928
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: a lot more muscles they have to deal with.

929
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: Not fair.

930
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: That's because you probably, like asked your plastic surgeon when

931
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: you are getting your boobs done some questions like that,

932
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: and I haven't had the chance because I don't have

933
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: big enough boobs.

934
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: Well, a tummy tuck is six thousand, six hundred and

935
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: twenty two dollars and a BBL is five four hundred

936
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: and eighty dollars. Not too much difference, close, close enough.

937
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Let's get this next one in upper arm lift or

938
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: a vaginal pa.

939
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: You can't read vagina plasty, listen.

940
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: I was just when I saw it, I was like,

941
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: is this.

942
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 6: What I think it is?

943
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: It is? Okay? An upper arm lift with you?

944
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Or would you not get a vagina plasty?

945
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Define it? Like? What are we doing or are we

946
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: dealing with the lips?

947
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: I actually don't even know, but I think it's when

948
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: they make you tighter.

949
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have to worry about that anymore, so

950
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm probably okay. Okay, listen, let's talk about it.

951
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Oper make it prettier or maybe they do, like.

952
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: But then my mole will get removed, Then my little

953
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: freckle will get removed.

954
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: You guys, it's true breaking news. I have all the

955
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: moles and beauty marks on my body where you can

956
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: see them, and Raven has one on her vagino plasty

957
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: and she's keeping it.

958
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: Okay, which is more expensive an upper arm lift or

959
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: a vagina plasty?

960
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: And I'm saying, I'm guessing first, And I know you

961
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: like to break them down whatever, but I'm saying vagina

962
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: plasty just because of what you're dealing with. And like,

963
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: if you accidentally niptuck the clit, you're done as a doctor.

964
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: That was a great sentence, nip tuck the clit? Like

965
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: that is who who got bars for that one? I

966
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: need somebody to write sixteen bars for the nip tuck clit. No,

967
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: not you, not you. That's what she made.

968
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: She gets it when I rat okay, my name is

969
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Miranda Mayde. I got that means eminem we connected.

970
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: I went there, you went there, Okay. So I just

971
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: want to break it down. An upper arm lift, that's

972
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, when you pull your arm out,

973
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: the thing that hangs from the back, that's not a lot.

974
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: That's just a quick little removing a fat and sewing

975
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: it appropriately. You'll probably have a few stitches by your

976
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: armpit vagina plasty that does require a lot more nerve

977
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: endings and reconstruction in a beautiful way. So I would

978
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: actually say a vagina plasty is more expensive.

979
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Okay, we agree on that.

980
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: Upper arm lift. Upper arm lift. An upper arm lift

981
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: is four thousand, six hundred and seventy five dollars and

982
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: a vagina plasty is three thousand. They don't care about

983
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: the vet.

984
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, they do not care about

985
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: the vult I bet you it was a man who

986
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: created the vagina oh plastic.

987
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Literally he which isn't tired of all this looseness. I

988
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: gotta get it.

989
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: The word is weird vaginoplasty.

990
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

991
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: That's what That's why I said the yeah vegeta. I

992
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: actually have a friend who went through the procedure of

993
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: getting the tightening thing.

994
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, she was down for the cause. All right, everybody,

995
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the lead one and Miranda has zero.

996
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: Next up, penis enlargement or upper body lift. It's for

997
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: sure an upper body Well you know what, in today's world,

998
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: it probably is a fucking penis lift because whatever.

999
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's probably not the penis piea lift.

1000
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: It's not even called a pa penis enlargement. It's probably

1001
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: not the penis enlargement because it's guy to guy's like, dude,

1002
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: I'll do this for you for like fifty cent. Don't

1003
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: worry about it. I got you. I know what it means,

1004
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, to be warm.

1005
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: Cheese, to be like, oh, I got a penis enlargement

1006
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: and I spent ten bags. I don't know why he

1007
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: talks like this, but it's not cooler.

1008
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: No, yes, it's cooler. But if I listen, if I

1009
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: was a dude and I was given out penis enlargements,

1010
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I'd be like one for you, dude, one for what

1011
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: you do.

1012
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: Do if you were sleeping with a guy, and obviously

1013
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Okay, right, first time you're having sex with

1014
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: a guy, stop it. First time you're having sex with

1015
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: the guy and he's like okay, you're getting into it whatever,

1016
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: and he's like hold on, hold on and pulls out

1017
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: a penis pump.

1018
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: First of all, i'd be watching and just like that.

1019
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: So I don't know what would I do. Yeah, I'd

1020
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: be like, let me see what that looks like, Doug,

1021
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: can I listen, We're not going into that. Oh, I

1022
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: know what you would do. Never fucking mind. Does this

1023
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: fit in there? Yeah?

1024
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Exactly, You're so bad anyway, I okay, we're going upper

1025
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: well we upper body.

1026
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, okay, listen to upper bodylift. That

1027
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: is obviously something that's very invasive for people who have

1028
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: lost a whole bunch of weight or just have extra

1029
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: skin and fat. So I'm going to say an upper

1030
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: body lift. I am too. Upper body lift at eighty

1031
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty seven dollars versus a penis enlargement,

1032
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: which is seven thousand, nine hundred and sixty How do

1033
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: they is it a what is it a penis enlargement? Well,

1034
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: it's not a bone, it's cartilage. So I don't know.

1035
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: If they inject some type of malleable implant, but metal

1036
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: could you have?

1037
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: Then you have a bionic ew and then in a

1038
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 2: clicker it would be like a telescope type of mechanism,

1039
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: and then ill, I don't even want to talk about penises. Okay,

1040
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: Well it's still one zero, yes, so we got to

1041
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: we got to do something here. Let's do it perspiration

1042
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: reduction or non surgical vaginal tightening. That's what I was

1043
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: talking about. The vaginoplasty is definitely like cutting of lips,

1044
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: I find out, making it pretty and whatever.

1045
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me just imagine it. What is it?

1046
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: Because you know how some vaginas like listen, I had

1047
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: a friend who did some report for women's studies where

1048
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: she had women send her photos, anonymous photos of their vaginas.

1049
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: There are some wacky looking, oh babe, bulbos out there.

1050
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: We're not thinking what. We don't know what a vagina

1051
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: plasty is. Let me tell you what a vaginoplasty is. Literally,

1052
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: a vagina plasty is the creation of a vagina or

1053
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: vulva from your existing genitalia tissue, including penis or sproutum.

1054
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 2: Oh so it's a transitional tans that is a true

1055
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: augment that is a true augmentation, and then a vaginal tightening,

1056
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 2: tightening the vagina.

1057
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: It's yeah, because we thought the vaginal clast you know,

1058
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: some girls be like wings and then you shrink them

1059
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: down to like little beef curtains.

1060
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: That's how I Oh god, I'll tell you there was

1061
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: this rumor in high school about a girl who had

1062
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: beef curtains, and I never knew what that was.

1063
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: It's okay, sweetheart, it's Okay, your your vulva is yours,

1064
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful, just the way it is beef curtains.

1065
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: We are the reason.

1066
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: We are showing why women have issues.

1067
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: We are literally doing We were raised by men.

1068
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 6: It's not.

1069
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh my fucking god, this is horrible. Okay, I'm gonna

1070
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: say that the non shoo. Yeah, I'm gonna say the

1071
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: non surgical vaginal tightening is more expensive than the perspiration reduction,

1072
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: because I think perspiration reduction is just done with botox.

1073
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 3: Hmm.

1074
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: Interesting because I was gonna go with the perspiration reduction

1075
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: thinking that it had to do with glands and kind

1076
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: of reduction of thing. But botox sounds interesting, just like

1077
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: botox in the armpits. Which I'm gonna you know what,

1078
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out on the limb. I'm going

1079
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: to say that the perspiration reduction is more expensive, and

1080
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with the vagina lightning, I mean tightening.

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Speaker 2: Vaginal lightning.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I pulled it out of my bobby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's the non surgical vagina tightening, which is one

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Speaker 1: thy two hundred and thirty six dollars and the perspiration

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Speaker 1: reduction is nine hundred and ninety five dollars. It's one

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Speaker 1: to one. Now it's one. It's always one to one

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we need a tiebreaker, tiebreaker?

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Speaker 1: How much is a cheek implant known as a malar augmentation?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you just were having a conversation about this the

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Speaker 2: other day when I did not ask the price.

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Speaker 1: They also went out of the country.

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Speaker 2: So how polite of you.

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Speaker 1: Cheek augmentation. So here's the deal with the cheek augmentation.

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of kinds. There are kinds that

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Speaker 1: you can just place a piece of silicone in that pocket,

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Speaker 1: or you screw it into your bone and that's a

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Speaker 1: lot stronger and stays. You also have to have your

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Speaker 1: incision and things like that. So I'm gonna guess that

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Speaker 1: a cheek implant, also known as a malar augmentation, is

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Speaker 1: around five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Babes, literally, that was what I was gonna say. But

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Speaker 2: I'll say five thousand, two hundred and four nine to nine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the price is right in five four three two one,

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Speaker 1: I win. The price is three thousand, six hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty nine dollars.

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Speaker 2: You are too good at this.

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Speaker 1: Game, honey. I'm in the industry. I know all the surgeries.

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Speaker 1: Holy well, I mean clearly you can tell when someone

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Speaker 1: has it. I just know what happens when you get it.

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Speaker 2: That's like my six sons, it is, it's your superpower.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, she had buckle fat removal and a

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Speaker 2: little bit of lip feller and had her nose done

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Speaker 2: with filler versus Yeah. Yeah, I'm good at that.

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Speaker 1: And a brow lift and a brow lift a brow

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Speaker 1: lift anyway. Augmentation is dangerous if done incorrectly, if not

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Speaker 1: done with the right mental space, if done in a

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Speaker 1: country that is not charging you correctly.

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Speaker 2: I think you can't care flimp on your.

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Speaker 1: Can't scamp, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think a beautiful thing about augmentation is it can

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Speaker 2: be there, It can happen by choice, it can happen naturally,

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Speaker 2: and as long as.

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Speaker 1: And it can happen in need, because we've seen some

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Speaker 1: amazing surgical procedures that like from a car crash or

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Speaker 1: if you have a very huge accident and you need

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Speaker 1: full facial reconstruction. Like beautiful reasons for augmentation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as long as I think that people have

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Speaker 2: good understanding and education as to why they're going to

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Speaker 2: do any form of augmentation, whether it's on your house,

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Speaker 2: whether it's on a recipe, whether it's on your body,

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Speaker 2: then it's not dangerous, like you said, not necessarily always unsafe,

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Speaker 2: and like you said, there is sometimes need for it.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think that accepting ourselves and what

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Speaker 2: happens to us throughout our lives is really important. Acceptance

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Speaker 2: versus resistance. And I hope that we as a society

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Speaker 2: can start to just feel more relaxed in the bodies

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Speaker 2: that we are, and then when we choose to have augmentation,

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Speaker 2: it's a positive. It's an enhancement that makes us feel

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Speaker 2: more confident, or it's that feeling of a good hair day.

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Speaker 2: It's like getting a blowout and you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling myself.

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Speaker 1: Or a new weave grade out here in these streets.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't have faith in society

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Speaker 1: to allow for natural beauty to prevail.

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Speaker 2: Well, it has to happen in the individual. And as

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Speaker 2: long as we keep having these conversations and telling people

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Speaker 2: our truths and the industry continues to shine lights on

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Speaker 2: things like that, maybe change will happen.

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Speaker 6: I hope y'all I hope she'll I hope shall well.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear what crazy voice you're

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