WEBVTT - Do the Tigers actually have enough to make a run? 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.079 And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.480 the Foul Territory Network. Troy Tiger's podcast, I'm here Steckley 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:17.600 with me as always is a man who is always 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:18.960 comfortable in the personal area. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.080 He is Cody Stavenhagen. How are we doing? 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.160 Players got to wear cups? Man, It would it would 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.439 solve a lot of things. I mean, it amazes me 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.600 these pro athletes these days not out here wearing cups. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.400 Yes, let's let's let's let's start out the podcast with 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.440 a little bit of humor given what we've seen these 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.519 past two days on the field of America Park. Cody so, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.839 Tarif Schooble is okay, Teris Schooble is okay. He just 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.200 had a little bit of a like I said, uncomfortable 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.960 in the personal area, I think is what A J. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.000 Hinch described it as. And what did Terrek say? He said, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.159 like what you think happened? 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.720 Happened or something like yes, which you know I kind 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.520 of respect that as well and look to be honest 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.960 and just kind of keep the metaphor going here. It 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.240 does kind of feel like a kicking the growing watching 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.040 the Tigers flail repeatedly at the plate right now, Cody, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.160 and losing these close games, and I'll tell you if 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.640 you want, like even just when they get an extra 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.520 base hit like a double or something doing like the 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.280 punch down and kind of the growing. I'm kind of 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.160 tired of the growing stuff. With the Tigers kicking the 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.720 groin pitchers and the groin punching the groin. It feels 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.880 like a kicking the groin watching this team right now 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.000 as we record this after a two to one defeat 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.080 at the hands of the Houston Astros, of course, after 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.320 losing a series four to two against the Yankees on Wednesday. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.240 So it's gonna be a tough one to thread the 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:38.720 needle here. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.800 Cody's threading the needle right off the bat. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.760 I'm just saying it's gonna be a tough one because 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.720 what we're watching right now is the execution of a 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.640 not functional baseball team. So halfway through the season, we 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.640 are looking at a thirty four and forty seven record 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.480 for the Tigers. Obviously thirteen low, five hundred. I don't 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:04.280 even care about the standings right now. And it's a 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.560 shame because schoo Ball, like, yeah, he gave up the 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.600 home runs and that was like the anomaly of the 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.120 past two days. But you know, six and he's there, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.040 nine strikeouts, like he was excellent for the vast majority 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.120 of that game. It's just like gold Schmidt and Dominguez, 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.280 you know, you know, tagged him and then Melton perfect 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.119 tonight through five point one. He gives up the one 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.360 home run and of course, like ken Lee Jansen, can't squeez, 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.320 can't hold the Astros there, it ends up being a 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:37.760 two to one. Yeah, I've watched a lot of teams 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.400 Cody over the years, and not just the Tigers that 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:45.680 like have good sometimes like pretty excellent starting pitching, but 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.240 not a lot of offense to show for it. And 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:53.560 I always associate those teams with not being well run organizations. Because, look, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.639 the hardest thing to do in sports, right is the 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.880 hit of baseball. We all understand that, so by extension, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.600 probably the hardest thing to do about building a team 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.040 is to build a team full of guys that can 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:04.880 hit the baseball. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.880 So like all that I you know, is apparent. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.880 However, we have watched this offense repeatedly come up short 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.760 in crucial situations, and it's kind of simple for the 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.880 Tigers this year. When you have excellent or good to 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.400 excellent starting pitching as they have consistently this year, and 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.519 that streak of four earned runs or less from their starter. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.320 This is from the graphic on the Torot Sports network 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.720 thirty and twelve when you score four runs or more, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.880 four and thirty five when you score three or less. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.600 It's pretty simple. It's hard to do, but it's pretty simple. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.160 This offense just isn't getting it done. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.920 No, they've had their moments. They've had their moments this month. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.120 You can still go on fangrafts and sort by the 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.360 month of June and be pleased with what you see, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.320 with where the Tigers rank and a bunch of various categories. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.480 But then you watch the games, and you watch games 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.160 like the last couple of nights, and it's a little 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.400 bit of a reminder. Seems capable of getting hot, capable 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.200 of having some good days. Do they really have enough? 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.400 Do they have enough to sustain it? Your bottom of 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.160 your order is James Outman, Zach McKinstry. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.080 How you lee like? 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.440 Is that gonna cut it? Even? Some guys more toward 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.760 the middle of your order. Colt Keith, who I still 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.960 really want to believe in, has just had some ugly 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.279 at bats. Carry Carpenter, who we've talked about a lot, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:34.880 boy likes to chase him some breaking balls. Spencer Tooricalson, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.520 never really know what you're gonna get, even Riley Green 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.200 at times it really does feel like McGonagall and Dingler 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.480 lately the only guys you really have confidence when they 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.480 are stepping up to the plate. Sometimes Riley, you can 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.040 throw in there. Hitting is the hardest thing to do 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.839 in sports, So it's not about necessarily assembling a team 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.080 that can hit the ball that can be Murderer's row. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.320 But consistent at back quality has been an issue for 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:08.040 the Tigers for pretty much my entire time covering them, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.760 And maybe everyone thinks that about about the team they 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:16.279 cover or are a fan of, But yeah, there's just 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.640 still too many empty at bats, And like one thing 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.400 spin it forward, like if the Tigers are within striking 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.920 distance by the trade deadline, might they make a run 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.440 for it? One way to view that is like, I 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.960 don't know, man, someone's gonna have to make a tough 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.799 call if that were to end up being the case. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.599 And if you're within a handful of games but still 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:41.120 out of it, do you really have enough? Is it 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.839 in there? I don't know. It's not over. Its team 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.160 can play well, but man, I don't know if they 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:47.960 can sustain it. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.400 I think the answer is a no, yes it is 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.680 it enough? No, it's obviously not enough. Like if I 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.919 were to, like, like again, I like to do this 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.000 exercise where it's like if I were to tell you 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.760 in January these things, you'd be like, yeah, it's probably 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.560 not going so high. McKinstry being a minus one war 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.280 plus war player and was he like one eighty something 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:11.880 or whatever. And I know we've talked about him kind 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.679 of getting some line drive back, but obviously hasn't happened 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.400 consistently enough. You know, Wentzel not having any of the upside, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.440 and of course the injury. You know, we understand that, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.240 you know, James Outman's in center field. You've probably been 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.599 like who you know? You know what I mean, and 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.440 then like how you lee? You might have been able 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.159 to hold onto something, and you know, give him credit, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.160 he had a base hit today. But like the answer 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.600 is no, it's it's not enough right now. Like it's 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.960 just like it clearly is not now is it in there? 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.360 That's the complicated question, because there is, as I've said, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.599 proof of concept of all those guys that you listed 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.520 there having a quote in there, but it's not there 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:56.039 right now. Uh So like when it's not there, you're 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:01.200 not deep enough clearly to overcome this. And the Tigers 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:09.400 were built to lean on internal ascension among their young players, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.960 and in a lot of ways it has not happened. 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.480 In various cases it has, but in a lot of 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.440 ways it hasn't. And then you throw in the random 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.520 bad luck stuff and the injuries and all that stuff, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.960 and you have a formula for thirty four and forty seven. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.440 So like, in a way, as much as I like 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.280 wake up every day thinking they really could go on 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.720 a run like they I do believe that. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.720 I do believe that. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.160 I wake up every day they did they could go 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.840 on a run. They just don't seem to have it 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.080 in them right now. And that's the frustrating thing. And 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.920 I feel bad even thinking about that on July twenty fifth, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.520 But that's that's that. I can only react to what 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.560 I'm seeing on the field, Cody, And there were so 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.280 many balls today that emi through that. Again, I don't 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.400 want a Monday morning quarterback this, but some of those sliders, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.960 I mean, did they reach, did they reach the end 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.000 of the grass before they hit the ground, and the 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.840 Tigers were swinging at him like seriously, like it was 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.800 it was a poor, poor game at the plate and 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.880 just like kind of deflating. You know, you get and 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.200 then you know Dingler has the home run there and 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.880 he number nineteen. That's still crazy too. But McGonagall, besides 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.960 McGonagall and Dinglin, I'm gonna throw Raley Green in that 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.400 people are down on rally, Like I feel like I 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.080 know enough about Riley that I'm not gonna dismiss what 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:26.720 he does. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:27.119 At the plate. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.920 But other than those three, it's kind of it's a 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.160 hope and a prayer and that's not a formula to 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:39.600 compete even in the what is a hugely weak American League. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.920 So yeah, and you. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.560 Could totally Jinch was disappointed after the game, I think 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.440 because this wasn't necessarily like you just running to a 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.040 bus sauce starter like Tessway. You may enter this game 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.360 with what like a six E r A. He's not 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.720 that good. Talking to Hinch Tigers hitters, you could tell, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.920 you know, his slider, his mo was kind of a 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.520 varying slider. Sometimes it's depthy, sometimes it's more like a cutter. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.679 Sometimes it literally backs up, I think by design, and 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.000 so I think that's what was tough. Like getting a recognition, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.120 seeing the pitch out of hand and knowing where it 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.480 was gonna end up was tough on him. But Hinch 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.760 said something to the effect of like he doesn't have 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.960 a pattern, and I don't think he meant that in 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.079 a positive way, Like they got beat by a guy 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.200 who's just not all that good. You know, granted his 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.439 last two outings have been very strong, but that's a 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.920 guy you if the pitcher doesn't really have a plan, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.199 you should you should devise a better plan at the 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.040 plate to beat that guy. And they didn't do it. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.480 They were chasing spin. I mean, it's fastball slider, you know, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.760 eliminate one, do some damage. They couldn't do that. It 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.440 was it was a discouraging day coming off a series 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.079 lost to the Yankees. You lost a Scooball start, then 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.640 you lost a Troy Melton start where he was perfect 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.000 through five and a third. 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He 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.320 is the face of the organization right now, and he 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.600 is like the one whose voice has the greatest weight, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.440 right And we talked about him having sort of like 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.760 the call to arms last week and how the Tigers responded, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.520 and you know, he kind of has a silver vibe 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.720 even after Wednesday's game. And so I'm curious as somebody 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.520 who covers him. I feel like has a pretty good 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:16.520 feel for him. Like, what's your read on schoobl right now, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.800 given just everything that's gone on, you know, the team, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.720 the stuff with his arm, and you know sort of 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.800 like you know, kind of us learning more information about 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.640 it as time progresses, and then you just kind of 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.400 have the cloud hanging over with like the trade deadline, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:39.160 the free agency hell, even union labor relations and all 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:40.920 that stuff, which we'll get to here in a second. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.720 Like what's kind of your read on like how Schoogle 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.240 is kind of carrying everything? 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.000 That's funny. I talked to Schoogle for like twenty minutes 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.839 on Thursday. I'll share all that with you guys one 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.080 of these days kind of because some of those same 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.680 questions were on my mind, Like this, it's just been 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.040 through a lot. Everything he does now is a storyline. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.920 You work your ass off, you work your whole life 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.600 to get to the top of your profession, and the 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.320 trade off for that is you're now part of this machine. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.720 Right You were part of this multimillion billion dollar industry. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.880 You're part of the machine. You are the face of 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.719 the trade deadline, all that good stuff. It's gotta be 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.800 kind of hard, right, and I think if you had 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.280 truth seer, it probably has been hard. But I do 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.200 think the competitor in Schooble is kind of wired to 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.680 try his best to block that out or you know, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.800 kind of put on blinders. And a lot of athletes 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.480 are like that because he's in the middle of the season. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.440 When you're in a major league baseball season, it's it's 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.880 not great for people's personal life because it's just hard 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.520 to focus on a lot else other than like the 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.920 task at hand and what you are doing and your 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.520 routine and all that good stuff. Like he's locked in 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.880 on it right now. I think it's a tough vibe 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.280 for everyone when the team is losing games when school 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.880 bol who I do think, all things considered, was pretty 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.840 close to back to himself. His last outing, he had 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.400 a forty percent with rate. The change up was nasty. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.880 Paul gold Schmidt has just kind of owned them beat 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.800 him twice. If Schooball doesn't elevate the change up to Dominguez, 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.440 he gives up two runs, Tigers win. We're talking about, Wow, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.440 what a great outing, And that's that's the margin of success, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.240 Like that's the life in the big leagues. Right one 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.360 pitch he messed up, or you could argue probably shouldn't 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.880 be battling nine to ten pitches with Domingaz anyway, probably 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.760 should have blown him out, got out of there. So like, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.920 maybe there's still clearly there's still a level or two 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.600 for him to climb to be like Cy Young formed 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.040 Trek Scoogle. But the stuff is there. I'm not worried 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.240 about that. I'm not worried about the trade value we've seen. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.080 We've seen in all three of his outings, he's gotten 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.520 slightly better each time. The stuff is there. But I 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.760 think this is difficult for him. I think he's being 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.600 the voice, he's saying the right things. I think he 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.040 believed the right things. I think he has the right attitude, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.960 and yet none of that makes it easy. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:08.120 See Yeah, and I don't mean this, uh pointedly, but 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.640 there is an element of you know, you reached the 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.200 mountain top and the only play you know, people try 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.560 to not you know, they build you up to knock 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.320 you down a little bit. And I think he has experience. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.320 I mean, he certainly experienced that with the whole Team 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.400 USA thing. Of course, now we have more context and 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.400 and all that stuff, So uh, you know, once he 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.440 becomes potentially like the richest picture on the planet like that, 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.680 will you know only continue. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.920 Right, So that's uh, that's just sort of that's the game. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.320 That's the game outside the game, I guess you would say, 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.040 and and I like, I do like like you have 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.440 kind of raised I don't want to say raise concern, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:44.880 but you've said, like, all right, you don't need to 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.240 get an argument with a couple years ago, get an 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.040 arguing about the umpire every out, and you don't need 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.760 to get into a shouting match with somebody on the 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:52.800 bench every outing. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.520 I do hope that, like the whole. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.000 Call the arms thing, like I didn't do good enough, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.080 like you know, that kind of stuff, which I do 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.880 believe to be authentic. I hope it doesn't get to 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.120 the point where it feels cliche. You see what I'm saying, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:08.320 Like like, you know. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.000 Well, I know what would help that winning some ball games, 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.040 getting some hits, getting some hits. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:20.400 Let's go, well, there there is you know, speaking of labor. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.240 And obviously Schooble is a directly involved and b will 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.840 be directly impacted by this upcoming CBA. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.120 We did get a Major League Baseball. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.600 I guess plan, proposal, leak, you know, whatever you want 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.200 to call it for for you know. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.040 They're just putting it out there. It's just all out 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.960 in the open, this negotiation. It's it's kind of wild 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.840 tactics from both the league and the union. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.680 Yeah, leak was a bad word there. They're thank you 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:48.360 for corrected me. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.480 But the gist of it is they'll be they'll raise 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.800 the minimum salary to one million for players with two 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.800 years service time nine hundred k, with the potential for 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.840 more if you're zero to one service time, no more 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:05.640 qualifying offer, no more deferred salary of future contracts. Arbitration 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.480 would be the same, and then the sort of the 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.080 headline is that there would be a max contract. So 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.720 the max contract you could sign as a free agent 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.399 would be five years for two hundred and two million. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.280 If you sign with your current team, then it could 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.119 be six years for a total of two hundred and 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.480 sixty five million. So if you guys are NBA fans 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.840 as well, just think of it as like bird rights 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.679 essentially for the MBA. I think MLB is trying to 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.000 call it cornerstone player, you know, something like that would 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.480 be the terminology. So you know, there's obviously a lot 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.880 of worry about being able to resign Tarek School. There 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.040 has been, you know, throughout the entirety of this process. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.520 That's partially why it's been a storyline. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:45.960 Right. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:53.040 My only thought about this is that if you this 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.560 might be your best case scenario if you're a Tigers 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.080 fan to resign Eric school is that he doesn't sign 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.080 before the CBA and somehow this it's agreed to, and 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.560 then all of a sudden, everybody's you know, got the 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.240 same contract offer, except you can offer one more year 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:11.160 and and uz a fifty sixty three more million dollars. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.919 So I guess maybe that's something'll hold on. Hope for 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.320 Cody is that you get fixed costs and then school 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.040 will come back because you're the only one that can 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.560 offer the year and the extra money. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:22.960 Yeah. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:23.320 I don't know. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.160 It's hard for me to engage in the hypotheticals because 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.240 all these proposals, I think you're just kind of noise 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:34.240 until about February when the negotiating starts getting serious. I 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.560 think we might miss a full season before the players 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:41.120 agreed to this structure. It's it's pretty limiting. I don't 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.000 think people should miss a full season. I don't think 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.879 they will. I think there's too much in sin to get. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:45.240 A deal done. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:45.600 Was why. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.760 I don't think this will ultimately happen. So we're just 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.560 talking for the sake of talking here. If for some 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.280 reason there were an inkling that this was going to 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.080 be like a real structure, then you and bank Trek 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.240 Schooble would be citing before December first, going to the 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.840 highest bidder, and maybe a reminder like why there might 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.119 be a lot of action before December first this offseason, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.199 just given the uncertainty of what might happen when the 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.680 CBA is agreed to. I don't really think it's gonna 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.160 be this structure, but it might be something different than 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.280 what we're used to. So yeah, I bet Trek Scooble 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:25.200 will sign before December first, if not an extra year, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.480 and if all things are considered equal, like yeah, sure, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.960 that would change the calculus a little bit because there 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.280 is no highest bidder. If multiple teams are offering the 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.359 same thing, then it would be like, Okay, what are 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.680 Schoobl's priorities really? Is it where he wants to live 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.720 and be close to his family. Is it where he 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.119 feels most likely to win a championship or is it 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.960 like stay with the organization that drafted him. That would 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:51.320 be kind of a fascinating decision, but we'll probably never 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.600 come to a point where that is the decision. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:57.040 Yeah, very true. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.000 All right, we're gonna take a quick break and I 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.800 think go to your mic a little little maybe unplugged 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:03.200 or something. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:04.640 It's a little gobe there. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.800 But we're gonna take a quick break, and then afterward, 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.000 I'm gonna get to a little thing that I've noticed 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.600