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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hartunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger.

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Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love

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Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode two hundred and thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: which is airing at the beginning of March twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a Disney SDDE All Things

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Speaker 1: Disney because it is something of a parental rite of passage.

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Speaker 1: Not really, you can live a very happy life never

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Speaker 1: having gone to Disney World, never taking your family to

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Speaker 1: Disney World. However, many people do wind up doing this

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Speaker 1: at some point, and we thought we would share our experiences,

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Speaker 1: our thoughts, you know, because Sarah just got back from

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Speaker 1: Disney World, so it's on our minds. But Sarah, growing up,

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Speaker 1: you went to Disney World a few times, correct, I did.

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Speaker 1: I remember three trips in particular. Now I have shared

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Speaker 1: on this podcast that my parents are of a very

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Speaker 1: frugal ilk. They still are, and thus Disney World would

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Speaker 1: not have normally been on their radar. However, both of

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Speaker 1: the times I remember going in childhood were trips where

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Speaker 1: well as part of that, and so the normal friction

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Speaker 1: those were really fun trips. I did develop a pretty

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Speaker 1: significant taste for nice hotels as a child that I

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Speaker 1: we were socially by it was the perk of my

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Speaker 1: in yellow sweatpants. And mini sweatshirts, looking very cold in

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Speaker 1: Thunder Mountain railroads. So I guess not a lot has

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Speaker 1: changed in Disney World since then. But anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: the first trip. We went again in nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 1: I spent like hours pouring over some unofficial guidebook that

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Speaker 1: every gift shop, every ride, and I'm sure we didn't

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Speaker 1: And then finally, my third trip was with my cheerleading

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Speaker 1: we did not win. And funnily enough, on our trip

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Speaker 1: like it was this crazy woman. Oh that's great, So

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Speaker 1: so you had Yeah, you'd been several times then it

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Speaker 1: about some of our hacks, things we've enjoyed doing, things

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Speaker 1: But we just went for a long weekend. We did

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Speaker 1: character dining experience and it will be great. Then. You know,

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00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: with COVID they got rid of the fast passes and

432
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: it was actually okay because they were also limiting park capacity,

433
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: and the fast passes do make the standby lines longer

434
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: because half of the ride is reserved for the people

435
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: at the passes, and so you're shunting everyone else into

436
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: the other half, and so you wind up with these

437
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous weights. So something like Avatar in the fast pass era,

438
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: you had to get a fast past because other it

439
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: was like like a four hour wait to go on it.

440
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: Whereas when they got rid of the fast passes. It

441
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: would be you know, thirty minutes for everyone, and so

442
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: there's there's some upsides to not having them. But on

443
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: the other hand, then once they raise capacity of the parks,

444
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: you have to do something to manage it as well.

445
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: And people don't like waiting an hour for every single ride,

446
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: and you know, so anyway you look into that. But

447
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: one thing you could do, yes, I would say, is

448
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: consider using a travel agent, especially for like the eating bookings,

449
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: character dining. Having somebody else sitting on the reservation system

450
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: is just a lot better than having you sit on

451
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: the reservation system. So Disney pays the travel agents that

452
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: work with them, so you know, you don't pay them.

453
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: Disney pays them. Which the only reason it would be

454
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: an issue is if you were neutral between Disney and

455
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: other options, you might be doing like they're going to

456
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: steer you to Disney. But that's whatever. If you know

457
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: you're going to Disney, you may as well use the service.

458
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 1: So we've done that in the past, and you know,

459
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: have gotten bookings and ride bookings that way, and you know,

460
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: our hotel bookings and all that stuff too. Ones we've

461
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: liked Cinderella's Royal Table. Also, you know, it used to

462
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: be really really cool because it was all the princesses

463
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: and you're in the castle. I mean, you're still eating

464
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: in the castle now, but they've sort of changed the

465
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: character experience now that they don't want you breathing on

466
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: the characters. But that was always a good one to

467
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: get the Beauty and the Beast place at Magic Kingdom

468
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: as well. So if you can get a day where

469
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: you do like lunch at Cinderella's Royal Table and dinner

470
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: at Beauty and the Beast, like you're getting the Great

471
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: Princess Experience. Ocker SEUs when it was open, it wasn't

472
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: during the past Covid eras, but you know that's the

473
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: Norwegian restaurant in the Norwegian Pavilion at Epcot, and they

474
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: turned it into a Princess experience where you know, you

475
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: had like eight princesses come through that. Again they changed

476
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: with you know, Covid, but that was always cool. And

477
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Tusker House at Animal Kingdom is actually really good food.

478
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: Like Sarah was saying with Boma Flavors of Africa at

479
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom Lodge, Tusker House is also really good. Like

480
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: just for whatever reason, Disney does the African flavors buffet,

481
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: like well, and if you are an adult who is

482
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: tired of pizza, I would recommend that, like it's better,

483
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: better food. So you tend to cut your days short, right,

484
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: Sarah nuts, Well, we've improved. I mean it used to

485
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: be that we were like the three PM like we're done,

486
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: Like I'm done, I'm done holding my toddler in line,

487
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: like it's over, let's go nap, Let's go watch a movie,

488
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: let's go to the pool. This time we were more

489
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: like six pm rolled around or five pm, and we're like,

490
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like waiting in another line. I

491
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, I would have stayed if I could have

492
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: scored another good lightning lane or whatever, but that you

493
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: can only do one paid anyway, So we made it

494
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: till I think I think we were like nine to

495
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: five the first day, and then like maybe nine to

496
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: six the first day, and then like eight to five

497
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: the second day, so not like a twelve hour day,

498
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: more like an eight hour day, and both times we

499
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: did dinner somewhere else. Again, one day we had reservations

500
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: at Boma, So we actually kind of liked the idea

501
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: of like decompressing in our hotel for a minute and

502
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: then going because we were staying right nearby anyway. And

503
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: the other night we really struggled with dinner. I should

504
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: have figured out some reservation and we ended up doing

505
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: it takeout that like took forever and was, you know,

506
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: not amazing. So yeah, I would say I think that

507
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: when my kids are more nine and over, I could

508
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: totally see making sure we have dinner reservations in the

509
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: park and trying to stay for fireworks. But I don't

510
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: think they're doing the firework. So yeah, So what is COVID.

511
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: I guess it says they don't want people crowding. I

512
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: don't know what COVID has to do with Oh that

513
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: is so silly, because the whole park is cuting. I mean,

514
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: like at least on the weekend we went, like there

515
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: were times we were walking and you like can only

516
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: see like a foot in front of you because it

517
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: was just people. And I think I read that there's

518
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: like a lot of pent up demand because we went

519
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: during Super Bowl weekend, which I had read was a

520
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: very low traffic Disney weekend, but not this year. They

521
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: apparently had record crowds. People wanted to go. They hadn't

522
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: gone yet. Yeah, so we I mean we tend to

523
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: stay late, sometimes ridiculously. So sometimes you know, like in

524
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, they were doing a thing where you could

525
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: stay till one am, like you'd buy a special ticket

526
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: from like ten pm to one am. So Michael stayed

527
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: with the big boys like for a night doing that,

528
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: and I mean it was great because it wasn't crowded, right,

529
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Like you could just go on ride after right, like

530
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: you'd come off the ride, go on it again, like

531
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: within the next five minutes. So you know, that was cool,

532
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: Like you could go on all the rides with zero

533
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: weight and offen. Things are clearing out by the end

534
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: and the air is getting cooler. It's like a lot nicer.

535
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: It's just that three pm is always rough because everyone's

536
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: tired and it's you know, so again, when you've got

537
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: older kids, you can push through it, like go get

538
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: your ice cream at three pm, sit somewhere cool, eat it,

539
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: and then you'll rally for the evening. But if you

540
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: have little kids, one option is to try to stay,

541
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: especially if you're only going to do Magic Kingdom. For instance,

542
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: you could stay in say Contemporary, which is right next

543
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: to Magic Kingdom, so you can walk, and so you

544
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: could leave at you could go at eight when I've

545
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: opened or whatever. Leave at one, go do the nap,

546
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: or go do the pool if you've got you know,

547
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: early elementary of school age kids, and then come back

548
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: in the evening when it's better again. So that would

549
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: be an option that you could do. I mean, going

550
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: back and forth if you're staying anywhere else is going

551
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: to be ridiculous because it's just so far away. But

552
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, similarly, if you are staying at one of

553
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: the hotels that's right by Epcot, you could take the

554
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: nap too. But yeah, one thing I'd say we didn't bring.

555
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when I had hand I brought a

556
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: diaper bag in the stroller, but when I go with

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: big kids, no bags, nothing for the day. I put

558
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: a little travel sunscreen in my jacket pocket. I wear

559
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: a light jacket and I put that in the pocket

560
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: and my phone. I look really cool by the way.

561
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: I have like my pants with zippers in them, like

562
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: cargo pants, and I put my phone in there, my

563
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: keys in there, my credit card if I need it,

564
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: but you don't, like you just need your ID in

565
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: case you need it for something. You know, if you're

566
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: staying in the Disney ecosystem, you don't need cash because

567
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: you just put it on your band your charge account

568
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: and yeah that's it. You know, have the sunscreen and

569
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: a little tube in your pocket. You can brush up

570
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: with that and you don't need to have a bag

571
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: anywhere that you're chucking, which is no, it's true much.

572
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: And we had a stroller, so like we did have

573
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: we had like jackets for the kids because it was

574
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: so cold in the morning, but we could just layer

575
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: them on the bottom of the stroller. And I had

576
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: like a bag, but it was a tiny bag. It

577
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: was just like for masks, extra masks and I don't know,

578
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: bugs bray, sunscreen, credit card, how's about it. Yeah, you

579
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: don't need that much. But with that because you don't

580
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: want to go. I did want whites, Oh, I wanted whites. Well,

581
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: Genevieve is still at the age where like when she

582
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: eats half the time, if it's like ice cream, like

583
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: her entire face is disgusting and there's like no neck

584
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's not always easy to find a bathroom,

585
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: like right when you needed if nobody wants to go

586
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. So if I had packed one thing,

587
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: it would have been like a small container of like

588
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: wipes that had like some alcohol in them to like

589
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: really like clean her off on a few occasions. Yeah,

590
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: well there you go. I would say, you don't want

591
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: to get bags in the course of the day, like

592
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: you want to have a souvenir policy from the get

593
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: go in general, like your kids are going to show

594
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: up and they're gonna want a giant sing at nine am,

595
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: and that's just going to be a disaster for the

596
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: entire day. So our policy we tended to say people

597
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: could get one thing in the course of the trip,

598
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: and so you know you want to get it at

599
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: the end of a day, that's fine because then you

600
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: can bring it back to the hotel or you can

601
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: wait till later in the trip to get that. They're

602
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: wound up being a little bit of leeway on that

603
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: because then it'd be like, oh, well it was this

604
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: one tiny thing like cantie, you know, but whatever. It's

605
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: the point is to have some policies so they're not

606
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: constantly asking for stuff and like you're having to say

607
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: no all the time. So if you're like, okay, but

608
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: remember we get one thing and we have to get

609
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: it at the end of the day. Then that can

610
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: keep you from like carrying some stupid you know thing

611
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: around all day long in them whining and constantly asking

612
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: for it. We did get a bubble wand for Genevieve

613
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: as her one thing, which we did the same thing.

614
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: We told each kid they could get one thing, and

615
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: it worked out fine. But it was the world's most

616
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: It was pleasing and it made her happy. It was

617
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: also the world's most annoying. It was a spewing bubbles everywhere,

618
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: so she was always like putting the bubbles on other people,

619
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: including strangers who were like, why is my leg what? Well,

620
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to dear old four year old,

621
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't go to Disney. Once I noticed the dross

622
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: to stop doing. If you'd stop, she would apologize, and

623
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: she's pretty charming, so it worked out. But yeah, it

624
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: was a cute gift. She will treasure it forever until

625
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: it breaks. Then she will just treasure the memories. So

626
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: things you were not so excited about. It turns out

627
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: Disney is trying to make some make some cash. Huh. Yeah,

628
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: I just felt, well, I think you kind of said

629
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: it best, like you pay for a luxury hotel when

630
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: you're staying on property, but you do not get a

631
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: luxury hotel experience. And I think that was even more

632
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: so with COVID. I mean, I know there's staffing issues.

633
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I was horrified the first night to realize they had

634
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: gotten rid of their room service because that was my plan.

635
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look it says on the website they

636
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: have twenty four hour room service. Oh look at this

637
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: great menu I found. And then they're like, oh no,

638
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: that's been shut down for a year. And I'm like,

639
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: oh okay. And it wasn't like clearly delineated anywhere. So

640
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they thought we wouldn't notice. I don't know.

641
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: So I was disappointed about that because when I paid

642
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: that much for a hotel again, hotel snob whatever, I

643
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: expect room service and there wasn't any. So that was

644
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: number one. Number two is like, I again like the

645
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: nickel and diming, So you don't actually have to pay

646
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: for parking in the parks if you're staying on property.

647
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: You mentioned that, but if you tell them they're on property,

648
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: they wave it. But the funniest thing, well maybe that's

649
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: how they knew. So I get this bill and it's like,

650
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: here's your parking charges for your animal kingdom. And I'm like,

651
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I never even told you I had my car in

652
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: your lot, Like how do you know I was parking there?

653
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: I could have flown here, I mean, you know anyway,

654
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: So that was just kind of weird. And again like

655
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: not complaining. I knew what I was signing up for,

656
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: but I guess when you're buying a package that expensive,

657
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: I expect it to be a little more inclusive than

658
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, that's that's all I will say. Yeah, No,

659
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, saying on property has some upsides, like you

660
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: not have to drive to the parks, and some of

661
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: the parks you park so far away it's like you're

662
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: in a different county. I swear. Like with Magic Kingdoms,

663
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: you go to the transport center, you know, and then

664
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: you park there and then you take the whatever monorail

665
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: to the park and it's just like, you know, it

666
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: takes like an hour to get there, and it's ridiculous.

667
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Whereas if you are on property, like you're saying one

668
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: of the Dizzy hotels, you just take the bus there

669
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and they drop you off there and then you go

670
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: to the park or you could take the monorail, or

671
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: you take the you know, gondola system, all kinds of stuff,

672
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: which yes, you can wind up waiting for too, But

673
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: it's not like parking doesn't actually benefit you. In many

674
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: of the parks now Animal Kingdom Lodge not Lodge Animal Kingdom,

675
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: you can park pretty close. But anyway, the buses are

676
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: often a good deal. But yeah, you're you're paying like

677
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Ritz prices for some of the Disney properties and you

678
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: are not getting the Rits like, so you just have

679
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: to kind of get your head around that idea. Theoretically,

680
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: you could take the Magic Express from the airport if

681
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: you are staying at a Disney hotel. I would not

682
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: do that, just take an uber because you can wind

683
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: up waiting forever for that one too. We have the

684
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: thing though, I do like staying at the Disney properties,

685
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: even if they are not the Rits, because they're built

686
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: for families and so we have you know, they have

687
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: condos too, because they have all the huge like timeshare

688
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: business going on. So we've stayed at ones that are

689
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, have a kitchenette and so then you just

690
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: buy a thing of frozen waffles, keep it in the freezer,

691
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: and you know, pack of yogurts and your kids can

692
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: eat waffle and yogurt in the morning and then you

693
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: just get out the door. Like it doesn't have to

694
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: be an ordeal. So that's that's been something we've taken

695
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: advantage of a lot to aim for off season. If

696
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: you can, like Sarah's parents, pulling her out of school

697
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: in January might have been a good idea. She's because

698
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: like when kids are out of school, it's, yeah, it's

699
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: be busy. So like Disneyland, disney World with fewer lines

700
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: is so much better than Disney with long lines. So

701
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: if you can look at historic tables of attendance, among

702
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: the things that my son does is compare which weeks

703
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: have had lower or higher attendance with varying probabilities. Right,

704
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's it can be crazy if you

705
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: go during say a week everyone has spring break when

706
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: it is not crowded, though, it can be very magical.

707
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: And so I would say just as a hack to

708
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: dial down the pressure on yourself, this is not a hack,

709
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: this is maybe a mindset. So there's a couple of

710
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: ways you can do this. One is to assume you

711
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: will go more than once. I know some people are like, well,

712
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: this is our one Disney trip of the lifetime, and

713
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: then that's going to ratchet up the pressure because if

714
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: you don't get to do something, it's like the end

715
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: of the world. Whereas if you kind of assume you'll

716
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: go every couple of years, then you know you probably

717
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: will get to do it the next time. You know

718
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: it's it's again. There's a million things one can do.

719
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: So if it's a season of life where you're being

720
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: more careful with money, I would maybe not go to

721
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: Disney because it's just going to be expensive, and I

722
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: think that ratchets up the pressure on a lot of

723
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: people that like, I've spent all this money, and if

724
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: the kids are for whatever reason, not having a good

725
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: time on something, it's like a personal affront. And I've

726
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: seen families screaming about this because you're hot, you're tired,

727
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: you're waiting in line, and then if the kid's not

728
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: happy and you spent more than you really wanted to

729
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: on it, it's just going to be very, very stressful.

730
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: So maybe you know, do something else and maybe a

731
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: different season of life would be better for Disney, or

732
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: maybe your kids can go with their high school cheer

733
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: team and then they'll fundraise for it and they don't

734
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: expect to be saying in certain places or whatever. So

735
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: that's that could be, you know, But anything you can

736
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: do to take the pressure down a bit rather than

737
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: hoping for a trip of a lifetime and then you know,

738
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: life is never completely blissful, might be a good idea.

739
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: So Sarah favorites your favorite rides. What were your favorite rides?

740
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: We didn't get to go on that many rides this time,

741
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: but the far and away favorite was definitely Avatar. As

742
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned, that is such a cool virtual reality ride.

743
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I love Sourin as well, but I think I think

744
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Avatar is even better. That whole world building that they

745
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: do Animal Kingdom in the Pandora Land is actually beautiful

746
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and like so well done, so that was really really fun.

747
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: I also love the nostalgia of Disney like almost as

748
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: much as Disney itself, and I think that does come

749
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: from a having childhood memories and b having memories with

750
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: my kids from a younger age because one of the

751
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: things we did that was so much fun was just

752
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: to tell stories of prior Disney trips and my kids

753
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: get such a kick out of it. Whether there's stories

754
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: like for my husband's past, he used to go a

755
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: lot because apparently his father used to teach a course

756
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: at Disney, like a surgery course, and the family would

757
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: be dragged like every other month, and apparently like they

758
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: got to the point where they're like, oh, not again, dad,

759
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we just heard, we got to tell

760
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: all these stories. And the fact that Disney doesn't change much.

761
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I hope they don't get rid of

762
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the really old nostalgic things. They can

763
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: build around it, they can add to it, like again,

764
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: that whole Pandora world wasn't there the last time I

765
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: was at Animal Kingdom, and that wasn't that long ago.

766
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: So please feel free to expand don't get rid of

767
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: like the core, because I think that's something that I love. Yeah. No,

768
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: they all are always innovating in various ways. It was

769
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: funny to watch like Epcot slowly turn into each country

770
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: now being the themed of a Disney movie, like that

771
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: they're doing cross content promotion there, that Mexico was just

772
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Mexico and then it's gonna becoming Cocoa, and and you know,

773
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: Norway was just Norway and now of course it's frozen

774
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: and frozen and ratituey with France, like it was just

775
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: France and now there's there's that. So it's funny to

776
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: see that happen, although you know kind of like, yeah,

777
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: you are expanding and innovating, but yes there's some old

778
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: nostalgic stuff like you know, space Mountain and uh, the

779
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a small world that. Yeah, it's they're not great

780
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: for what they are, it's just that they are have

781
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: been there forever. And so many people went as kids

782
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: and have you know, gotten to do that again with

783
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: their kids. Avatar is amazing. We always love that soaring,

784
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: you know what I would say Avatar. We had one

785
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: experience when we did go in twenty nineteen. It was

786
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: at its peak of like popularity, and so the wait

787
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: literally was like three hundred minutes on my app. The

788
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: kids got to go twice in a row because there's

789
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: the baby swap and so Alex couldn't go on it,

790
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: and so my husband got to take all of them

791
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: after I took them, so they got to go twice

792
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: right in a row. It was like, wow, you know,

793
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: that's like seven hundred minutes you didn't spend in line.

794
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: It was really really awesome test track at Epcot is

795
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: just so much fun. You're soaring around on a you know,

796
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: car on the roof in like the Florida. We went

797
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: once at night and it was just like so amazing

798
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: to go sixty miles per hour and a you know,

799
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: basically a with the top down, a go kart down.

800
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: It was fun. I liked Big Sunder Mountain Railroad. The

801
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: shooting games. I like the carnival shooting games like the

802
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: so Toy story Mania and similarly buzz light Year at

803
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom. And then we got when we went in

804
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: twenty one, we did get to go on Rise of

805
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: the Resistance. That was a whole ordeal of you know,

806
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: being on the system right when you could make a reservation.

807
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: We got a boarding group and we were able to

808
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: do it. It was really cool. It was like a

809
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: combo world building of Star Wars plus a ride where

810
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: you are you know, you're captured by the forces, the

811
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: Empire forces, and then you are trying to escape. That

812
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: was actually pretty fun. Kilimanjaro Safari. Just seeing animals, I

813
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: mean it's like Africa, only here in Disney, and the

814
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: animals are always there. I mean, so I have gone

815
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: on a safari in Africa and you're driving around in

816
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: a jeep hoping to see animals, and often your guide

817
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: knows roughly where they will be, but you know there's

818
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: no guarantee. Then in Disney they're always there. So I

819
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: do have to admit though, this was the first time

820
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: I went to Disney and the world words cultural appropriation

821
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: kept zooming into my head because if you really think

822
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: too hard about it, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll say, And

823
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say the Rock and Roller Coaster

824
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: starring Aerosmith is probably the only Disney coaster that's like

825
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: a real coaster. But it's actually pretty cool. Like you're

826
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: you're zooming through the Los Angeles night listening to Aerosmith's

827
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: songs and like have the neon signs of the freeway

828
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and you do, what is it, you know,

829
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: an inversion and all that stuff. So it's one of

830
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: the only Disney coasters that's like a real coaster. So

831
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: if you're into that, that's a definite must do while

832
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: you're there. All right, So this question do our question?

833
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: I guess Disney is our love of the week for

834
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: or no that we have a different one. Never mind Okay,

835
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: our question is a bit of a plant, Sarah, what

836
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: are some good Disney alternatives? Like, if you've decided you

837
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: don't want to do Disney World with your family, what

838
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: are some other fun experiences. I think if you're looking

839
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: for the theme park experience and your kids are younger,

840
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: and perhaps your budget is smaller, you should consider Legoland.

841
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: He will get the Florida Sun, You will get lots

842
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: of rides. It is so low key in comparison, but

843
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of theming. The rides are kind

844
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: of small child friendly. There are more areas that are

845
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: fun for toddlers, and it is just a lower stakes experience.

846
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: My husband loves Legoland. He always compares the two and

847
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: it always seems like Legoland wins. They're different, but that's

848
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: a great alternative, all right. And then let's throw in

849
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: that Universal is obviously right there and just has sort

850
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: of a different vibe. There's some similarities in that you

851
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: can stay in like Universal affiliated properties that have some

852
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: benefits in terms of I don't know if they're still

853
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: doing this, but you basically got the fast pass equivalent

854
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: by staying in the Universal affiliated hotels. Harry Potter World

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Speaker 1: is amazing, So you know, you could definitely do a

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Speaker 1: great Universal experience, and particularly if you have like older kids,

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Speaker 1: because I think they're they're roller coasters are better. So

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Speaker 1: if you are a roller coaster aficionado, you are definitely

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Speaker 1: going to prefer the Universal experience to the Disney World

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Speaker 1: experience because it's just aimed differently. So you know, teens

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Speaker 1: might have a more fun time going to Universal. And

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Speaker 1: I agree on Lego Land that was I didn't go

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Speaker 1: to the one in Florida, but I went to one

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Speaker 1: in California when we had little kids, and it was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great. It was wonderful, like they had such

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Speaker 1: an amazing time. It was just more aimed at children

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Speaker 1: that age. So let's do our love of the week,

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Speaker 1: all right. Mine are the on Running brand sneakers. Like

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Speaker 1: you've probably seen people wearing them, because as soon as

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Speaker 1: I bought my first pair, I saw them everywhere, and

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Speaker 1: actually they were a very popular shoe choice at Disney World.

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Speaker 1: I got the cloud varieties. I think some of them

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Speaker 1: are called like on clouds or whatever. I don't use

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Speaker 1: them for running, but they were really really comfortable during

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Speaker 1: my call week. I actually did not wear them to

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Speaker 1: Disney because right before we left, I started to worry

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Speaker 1: that like a tiny part of my foot maybe didn't

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Speaker 1: like the shoe, and I was like, that's not a

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Speaker 1: good thing to risk for that many hours on my feet.

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Speaker 1: But they're really cute and they worked really well for call,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't really know about them before, So you go, there,

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Speaker 1: you go. I was gonna say this is totally non Disney,

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Speaker 1: but my love of the week is my Eddie Bauer

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Speaker 1: knee length coat. Because we are still deep in winter

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Speaker 1: up here in Pennsylvania. It has now seen me through

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Speaker 1: another winter. I've probably worn't it five years. It was

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Speaker 1: maybe two hundred dollars and I think I had a

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Speaker 1: Eddie Bauer coupon, so I got some discount on it

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Speaker 1: as well, and so on a cost per wear because

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Speaker 1: I wear it every day for approximately five months every year.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much as non Disney as you can go

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Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, being very economical, pretty good

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Speaker 1: cost per wear there. So I'm going to give a

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Speaker 1: shout out to my Eddie Bauer coat, but definitely like

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Speaker 1: to put it away now and have some warmer weather.

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Speaker 1: I am not going to Disney World anytime soon, but

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Speaker 1: that would be an option if you are you know,

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Speaker 1: suffering from the cold and wanting to you know, have

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Speaker 1: a little bit warmer. Florida is about to get warm,

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Speaker 1: so something to look into. Anyway, this has been best

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Speaker 1: of both worlds. We've been doing our Disney sode. We

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Speaker 1: will be back next week with more on making work

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Speaker 1: and life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can find

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Speaker 1: me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the

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Speaker 1: Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me Laura

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Speaker 1: at Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the best

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Speaker 1: of both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for

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Speaker 1: more on making work and life work together.