1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: by searching apps call. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: Hopefully the Thanksgiving hangover is mild, whether it be from 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: food or other vices. Welcome in. It's a Black Friday, 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: but there's no dark cloud here, Moncy. Four hours of fun. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, boom, what up America. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Monsey and I are 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: in for Doug today, who was just in for the 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Herd and Colin Cowherd. But we're also going to be 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: in later on for Cavino and Rich. So it's four 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: hours of us talking a lot of football, some NBA 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: as well college variety of the pig skin. But we 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: start in the National Football League as the Eagles and 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Bears are about to start in Philadelphia in their Black 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Friday game. But I want to focus on one happened 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: yesterday because in the Thanksgiving affairs that we had in Detroit, 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: in Dallas, Arlington, to be specific, and in Baltimore. The 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: three favorites yesterday heading into the game, the Lions were 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: favored by two and a half over the Packers, Chiefs, 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: who were about a field goal favorite over the Cowboys, 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: and the Ravens a touchdown favorite over the Cincinnati Bengals. 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: All fell. They were all defeated by their underdog opponents. 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: And as I'm watching Joe Burrow return to the Cincinnati 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Bengals and I'm watching the Ravens fall apart, I'm saying 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: to myself, this is a lot of what we saw 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: earlier today. These teams that we were accustomed to had 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: two years ago, Monzi, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions were 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: the three of the four best teams we had in 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: the National Football League, like truly, like the Lions we 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: know were a quarter all away from going to the 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. All the Chiefs and Ravens played great games. 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: This is where we are in the NFL. And it 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: felt like yesterday and Week thirteen, before all of our 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: eyes on Thanksgiving Day, what's going to be the highest 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: rated games that we're going to see all regular season. 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: It felt like it was a bit of a changing 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: of the guard with those three defeats. 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: Yesterday's games just proved what we have seen all season. 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: There is no dominant team, and the teams that we 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: expected to be dominant coming off of last season have 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: been underwhelming. The teams that have surprised you, there's several 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: teams surprising us this season, and it's none of the 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: teams that we anticipated or expected. It's just this has 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 4: just been the season. I thought that that's what the 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: show key scene of it was. It's like, this is 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 4: that type of season. I really don't know who's who 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: anymore and who is going to come out on top. 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: I don't know who the dominant teams are. I don't either, 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: but I do know that it's definitely not these three teams. 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I know that for sure. And I don't 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: know if you have the same feeling that I did. 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: But one team stood out to me in being the 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: biggest failure. Did a team stand out to you yesterday? 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: And it kind of hits you to say, like, huh, okay, 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: there's something more to this. Did you have any of that? 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna make a case for one of the teams. 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: I think I felt that with all of them, but 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 3: there may be one that a little bit more. 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: You want to know what team I'm worried about the most. 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: What team were you worried about? 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: The Moe the Lions. 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. Really, yes, I didn't 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: think you were going to pick the line. 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: That's why what do you think I was going to say? 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say maybe the Chiefs, 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: because the Chiefs were so long. 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: Their defense, you know, was so good, and right now 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: it's like their defense is not there, and that has 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: been the last couple of weeks. But to me, the 74 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: Lions are the ones where they're like, oh no, it 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: does seem like you are not at all what I 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: was expecting. It seems like the minute you rattle Jared 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: Goff just a little bit, he cannot do much. If 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: he is all the time in the world, he's great. 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: But the minute you rattle him, Jared Goff looks rough out. 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: There, and it's rougher without Amanas Saint Brown, of course, 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: who's got a low angle sprain. They play next week 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: on Thursday night against the Cowboys, so it's after that 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: that Amanara Sam Brown's likely going to get his full rest. 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: Maybe he plays in week fourteen. I'm not sure, but 85 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: when Dan Campbell gave the timetable out yesterday, it said 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: maybe one to two week injury, and that lends to 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: him maybe getting the extra time because they'll have exactly 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: one week before they play their next game, which again 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: is Thursday against the Cowboys. The reason I didn't pick 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the reason I didn't pick the Ravens 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: is because of their quarterbacks. Like I don't think Lamar 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: looks the same either. Are a couple of runs last night 93 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: that I thought, Okay, this is more of the old Lamar. 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: But I just don't think that he's fully back from 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: the hamstring injury. But I think he will at some point, 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: and it may be in twenty twenty six, So I'm 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: not worried about that. I'm not worried about Patrick Mahomes. 98 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: Andy Reid's going to retire some day. I don't think 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: it's going to be after this season. I think the 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs will figure something out that Travis Kelcey obviously has 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: a decision at the end of last year. But when 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: I look at the Lions and you mentioned, like Jared 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Goff and we mentioned the lack of coordinators, I go 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: back to the game that I mentioned earlier of the 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 2: Lions being about a quarter away from the Super Bowl, 106 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: and it's just very likely, Mancy, that that is as 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: close as the Lions are going to get with this 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: version of the team. And this version of the team 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: is going to change at some point, just like the 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: version of the Chiefs changed, just like the version of 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: the Ravens will probably change. But the Ravens in Chiefs 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: have their quarterback, and it's not that Jared Goff. This 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: isn't a referendum on Jared Goff. I just think that 114 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: the Lions may have had their run. And it's so 115 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: surprising me because now you need Frank Reraig now to 116 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: come out of retirement. I've loved their offensive line more 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: so than what Baltimore and Kansas City's at. Kansas City's 118 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: got problems on the offensive line. Now they've got injuries 119 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: littered across the line. So it's probably not going to 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: be the year for the Chiefs. But I just look 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: at how close the Lions came a couple of years ago. 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: Their defense doesn't seem to be anywhere near anything to 123 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: stop anything. And if you're going to put everything on 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: the shoulders of Jamier Gibbs, I mean, even the what 125 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: was what was their nickname? I was gonna call him 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: thunder and Lightning, but it wasn't. Yes and knuckles is 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: that it does that sound right? Right? Character? Okay, Yes, 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: that's David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. It's not the same 129 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Like Gibbs is great, David Montgomery doesn't seem to have 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: the same effect that he's had previously. So I'm just 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: really worried about the Lions, and as they've been a 132 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: great story. They've been a team that people have wanted 133 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: to follow and wanted to cheer for because of how 134 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: bad they've been for so long. But now when you 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: lose both of your coordinators dead coaching jobs, those coordinators 136 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: take other coaches. Dan Campbell has got the culture at 137 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: some point. I I hope the message doesn't ring hollow. 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: But I'm more worried about the Lions than I am 139 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: the other two teams about bouncing back and continuing success 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: over the next couple of seasons. 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you said it right. 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: It's just last year we really saw the Lions have 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: this like step on your throat mentality, have this offense 144 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: that almost seemed unstoppable, and then this year everything is 145 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: just a little bit underwhelming now. The losing your coordinators, 146 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: of course that was a big thing, but you also 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: weren't gonna. 148 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: Change the scheme that much, you know. 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: Like Dan Campbell's been there, so like you, why would 150 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: you things were gonna You were gonna stay on the 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: same game, the game plan that you had and in 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: a in a year where like there is no dominant team, 153 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 4: I really thought the Lions were gonna look, at least 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: offensively like the team we had seen last year that 155 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: just did not care if they dropped seventy seventy on. 156 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: You, it didn't matter. The more we score the better. 157 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: They can't. They can't. They don't look like that right now. 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: They don't look like that team and it's only one 159 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: year removed, which is crazy. 160 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: They went to Baltimore earlier this season and had a 161 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: big win when Lamar was was healthy at that that 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: point of the season, and then they ended up losing 163 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. The lost the home game to the Vikings, 164 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: and we saw what happened against the Eagles. I thought 165 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: yesterday's game was going to be that matchup where they 166 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: get revenge from the Week one game where they were 167 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: dominated by Green Bay, and it just appeared to me 168 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: that now maybe they just don't have the horses to 169 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: do that, and that's what and it was. It was 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: a bit of a letdown because I didn't realize it 171 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: after the Lions lost to the Packers. It was more 172 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: of taking the day in as a whole, like the 173 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: Ravens are going to have to make some changes and 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Derek Henry's not going to be and Derek Henry actually 175 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: kind of still looks like Derrick Henry. Maybe not the 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: ninety yard touchdown breakthrough or stiff arming Josh Norman in 177 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: the next. 178 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: Week, maybe you'd like of course he does. 179 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely, But I just wonder with the 180 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Lions because I mean, it was such a good run. 181 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: And again, the Chiefs and Ravens have their quarterbacks and 182 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: it's not meant to disrespect Jared Goff, but I just 183 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: don't feel as comfortable with them moving forward. And it 184 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: didn't hit me until last night watching Lamar turn it 185 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: over a couple of times. He had the fumble where 186 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: he was trying to hold the football back, and it's 187 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: just like, man, it's just not their night, it's just 188 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: not their season. And I think that's a reasonable excuse. 189 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you can say that for the Lions. 190 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: I don't think you could say that, you know, it's 191 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: just not their year this year. I don't think so. 192 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: I think that we're seeing a little bit of diminishing 193 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: returns since that NFC Championship game two years ago. 194 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that, because even with the Chiefs, 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: you're kind of just like, it may not be their year, 196 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean I'm ruling them out for next 197 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: year or the year after. 198 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 199 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: It's like, if they don't sneak in, it's like they're 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: gonna come back, and I would bet next year that 201 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: they do make the playoffs. With the same thing with 202 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: the Ravens. It's not they don't look good, but they 203 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: it's the Ravens are weird. It's like they started with 204 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: a bad defense, but their defen seems to have gotten better. 205 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 4: But then Lamar Jackson got hurt, and I agree, he 206 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: doesn't look like he's one hundred percent at all. I 207 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: sometimes wonder, remember when Jahn Morant stopped doing dunks. 208 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: Because he was afraid to get hurt. 209 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: I'm wondering if Lamar is a little bit afraid because 210 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 4: he's a little banged up, and so he's holding back, 211 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: just like Jamran literally was like, I'm not dunking anymore. 212 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: I'm not doing this anymore when we used to love 213 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: seeing him do that. He looks like, I don't know 214 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: if it's the injuries or that he's a little bit 215 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 4: scared because he's banged up. 216 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: But he's holding back. 217 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: And it just made me think of Jahn Morant when 218 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: he said that that he was gonna not dunk anymore. 219 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: But with the Lions against a Packers team that I 220 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: don't that I haven't been impressed with this season for 221 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: you to at home not be able to look good even. 222 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: The eye test with the Lions yesterday. 223 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: I know the score was thirty one to twenty four, 224 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: but the eye test for the Lions wasn't great yesterday. 225 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that you're gonna face it and 226 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: you may not believe in the Packers. I believe in 227 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: them more than maybe others do. Even the Packer fans, 228 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: and the Packer fans believe in the Packers. They just 229 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: don't believe in Matt Lafleur as their head coach. Think 230 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: that that's what's fair to say, I just don't think 231 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: that they can. They could navigate the NFC playoff picture 232 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: and beat teams that are better than they are, and 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,119 Speaker 2: I thought that that was kind of their hallmark previously 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: two years ago. Then last year, you know, they lose 235 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: to the Commanders in the divisional playoffs with home field, 236 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: and now this year, just to even get into the 237 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: to the postseason would be difficult. But I don't think 238 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: the Lions would do any damage. And you're right about 239 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: the Lamar. I thought there were a couple of runs 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: last night where Lamar did turn it on at the end, 241 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: but I don't think he did against the Jets on Sunday. 242 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: I thought there were a couple of runs where he 243 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: just wanted to ease up, And I think some of that, honestly, 244 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: is probably psychological. But it's also like, listen, we were 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: one and five, We're now in the thick of it. 246 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: If I risk anything or do anything here, it's all 247 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: for nought. 248 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 5: Right. 249 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 2: That may have come to backfire last night against the 250 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, but I'm just not worried about not worried 251 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: about the Ravens as a whole. I'm not worried about 252 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens organization over the next couple of years. I'm 253 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: not saying that there aren't gaps to fill with Derrick 254 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: Henry and pieces on the defense. It's just it feels 255 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: that the Lions to me, reached a point where even 256 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, it didn't matter who they 257 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: would play, they would play their style and if they won, great, 258 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: and they won a lot, and they won a lot 259 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: last year, and now they're not able to do that 260 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: this year, and it just felt it felt different. And 261 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: now tell me the Cowboys and Lions play on Thursday 262 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: to start Week fourteen. Yeah, who's the hot team coming 263 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: in right? 264 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 4: Definitely the Cowboys one hundred percent, which is crazy. Yeah, 265 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: you know, last year with the Lions, it was like people, 266 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: the team's viewers me, I was like, man, the Lions 267 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: are a big threat because their defense is not maybe 268 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: they're going to shut you out, but it wasn't their defense. 269 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: It's just that their defense was good enough and their 270 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 4: offense was so good that you couldn't keep up offensively 271 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: with the Lions. 272 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: That's not this year at all. 273 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: Know, and the defense should aiden Hutchinson and get after 274 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: you with sacks and hopefully turnovers. And they I mean, 275 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: they had injuries last year in the second area as 276 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: well and this year, but I just every team has 277 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: injuries every time, and it's just the Lions where I 278 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: just thought like, Wow, I wonder if that window was closing. 279 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: I remember with the Seahawks when they lost in the 280 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty nine to the Patriots, which we all 281 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: remember the interception at the one yard line. They had 282 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: the whole next season was a malaise, like it really 283 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: just I think they were hungover from that, talking about 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving hangovers. But it was then the next year where 285 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you weren't competing with the 286 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: better teams, Like they got ran off the field by 287 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs, and the Falcons ended 288 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: up going to the Super Bowl that year, but they 289 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: were just they didn't have a chance, and all of 290 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: a sudden, now you're saying to yourself, wow, we've fallen behind, 291 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Like we were the cream of the crop, we were 292 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: the best in the NFL, and now we're not even 293 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: better than the top teams in our conference. And I 294 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: felt like that's the feeling I got with the Lions 295 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: last night. 296 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: Totally. 297 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: She's Monzie Milano. So I'm Dan Byer sitting in for 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb today. Every Olympic dream starts with the first glove. 299 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Through learn to Skate USA, kids build confidence, strength and 300 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs 301 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program 302 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: near you at learn to SKATEUSA dot com. Hit Mancy 303 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: up at Manzi belanyas you can find me at Dan 304 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: Byer on Fox. 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So much more coming up in about seven minutes. 332 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: It is weird still to me to have a game 333 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: on Black Friday at this time, Like I'm still getting 334 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: used to that. 335 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: What day does it feel like today? 336 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: It is not Friday at at all. I don't know 337 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: what I don't know, I don't know of a day. 338 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: It feels like I just to make sure I. 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Don't I thought yesterday was Friday, like like half the time, 340 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: like I was feeling it was Friday, which would make 341 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: today Saturday. So that's what it kind of feels like 342 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: to me, Isa a glowing crowd. What does today feel 343 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: like to you? After a Thanksgiving? 344 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 8: Yesterday feels like a day that ends in a whine. No, 345 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 8: it's it's it's a really, that is my good point. 346 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter to me, honestly, because there's no traffic today, 347 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 8: at least for me. 348 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: So then maybe a Saturday or Sunday, right because there's 349 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: a little less traffic. 350 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 6: Oh no, there's there's traffic on Saturdays. 351 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: A moving on, moving on, all right. I kept saying, 352 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: the point being right, just play along, okay, kids, play along, 353 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: that's what we need. Ryan Burschinger, what does today feel 354 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: like to you? It feels like Saturday? To thank you, 355 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: thank you. I guarantee he's just gonna I'm just gonna 356 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: say what Dan say. I'm just gonna say what Dan says. 357 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: That's what it is, That's what it is. There was 358 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: less traffic today. 359 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: There's a lot of less traffic today, and. 360 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: There's no way, Isaac. You could deny that there's less 361 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: traffic on Saturdays and Sundays than Monday through Friday. 362 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 8: Not on the one on one babe, Okay, all right, geez, 363 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 8: my goodness my. 364 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: Sundays. Yes, I agree. 365 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: If I have to Kenny Loggins this meet me halfway, like, 366 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: just please, just please me halfway? 367 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: Is less traffic on the weekend? 368 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: There is traffic. Why does it take me twenty seven 369 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: minutes to get here as opposed to fifty minutes Monday 370 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: through Friday? 371 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 8: Huh? 372 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: Why? That's That's what I want to know in any 373 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: major city. I'm sorry, you may have traffic jams on 374 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: Saturdays and Sundays, but it is not nearly as bad 375 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: as it is during the weekday. It's just not unless 376 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: you're going to the zoo or something like that, that 377 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: would be only the only place, or Dodger Stadium. Outside 378 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium, that would be the only case. It just 379 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: feels like a Saturday to. 380 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: Me, you know, it definitely feels like an off. 381 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: Day, like a sigh here, yeah, like a Saturday, like 382 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: a Sunday, allion off day. 383 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: But it's not. 384 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 8: It's not. 385 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: It's Black Friday shopping. 386 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: I also miss Black Friday shopping how it used to 387 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: be back then. 388 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 3: Now everything's online. I've done it. I did it earlier 389 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: in the week started Monday. 390 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah you want to camp out in front of best Buy? 391 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: I definitely is what you I definitely was. I did that. 392 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: I missed the Actually there you go. 393 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: Okay, of course, yeah we all do. Yeah, that's what 394 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: we all. People fighting over PS three's. 395 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: Or yes, cabbage Patch kids running into a store. 396 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: The fights. The fights were like decades like it's It 397 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: wasn't just over electronics. It was over dolls, it was 398 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: over action figures. It was it's always it was over 399 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: flat screen TVs. 400 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: You didn't even need another flat screen TV. But people 401 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: are like forty seven dollars. I will take you down, 402 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: ma'am for it, ma'am. 403 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: You know you said we're on ma'am. 404 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: I want to use the different word. I think other 405 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: words were used instead of maying. 406 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: But I'm keeping a classy right now. 407 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: The ads that would come in the paper as well. 408 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: I remember family would review those on Thanksgiving night, so 409 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: then they would know where they were. 410 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: Gonna what you were gonna do, and you had to 411 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: make a decision. It's like what storm I going to 412 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: go to at midnight if I'm trying to, you know, 413 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: maximize my savings. 414 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Cyber Monday's kind of taken over. To Manzi's point, everybody's 415 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: been already doing it. 416 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: I've been shopping since Monday, Homeline, a lot of shopping. 417 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, it's but it's great to be here. 418 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: The egg Bowl is wrapping up. Curious to hear what 419 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: Lank Kiffin has to say after this game, considering you're 420 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: supposed to have the official announcement of what he's going 421 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: to do with his next stop, if there is a 422 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: next stop coming up tomorrow. But the Bears, by the 423 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: way in Eagles territory, trying to put some points up 424 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: on the board that a drive stall failed to get 425 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: it on fourth and one at about the Eagles twenty 426 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: five yard line on their opening drive. Now they've driven 427 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: down to the Eagles eleven yard line. So the Bears 428 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: moving the football against Philadelphia in this contest. So far, 429 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: so good for Chicago, except the fact that they haven't 430 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: put any points on the board. All Right, Mancy, it's 431 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: time to for our Tirac play of the day. 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Today's Tierraq play 437 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: of the Day comes comes to us courtesy of seven 438 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: hundred WLW in Cincinnati shotgun staff. 439 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 9: Joe under pressure clings it down the middle of the 440 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 9: film Yo C. 441 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: Bosh leaves it the three. 442 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 9: He takes it into the end zone a twenty eight 443 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 9: yard touchdown to Andre Yo Si Bosh and the Bengals 444 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 9: lead is back to eleven with a pat coming up. 445 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: One of two touchdown passes from Joe Burrow on the 446 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: night is the Bengals get that victory thirty two to 447 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: fourteen over the Ravens again on WLW and the Bengals 448 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: Radio Network. So Joe Burrow is back. Thanks for listening 449 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: to The Doug Gotleab Show podcast. 450 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three 451 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 452 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gotlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 453 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 454 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR and. 455 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: Those NBA courts. I love me a good end zone. Yeah, 456 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: in college football or the NFL when you're you painted 457 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: up NBA Cup courts a little too much for me. 458 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: It's the solid color covering the whole court, like I 459 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: think we would like it, just like last year where 460 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: we were complaining because I was that there was no 461 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: trophy during the NBA Finals. 462 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: Run like on the hardwood. That's what you should have done. 463 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: It didn't need to all be a solid red or 464 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: a solid blue. It's not appeasing to the eye when 465 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: you're watching it, No, it's not. 466 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: It burns the retinas with some of the reds that 467 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: we have seen and those those NBA logos. What they 468 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: previously would do was put stickers right down, and the stickers, 469 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: as Isaac just mentioned, with the court being slippery, the 470 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: stickers were slipped, so you went away with them. They 471 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: had actually that problem in college basketball when they wouldn't 472 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: make courts specifically for each site. You would have like 473 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: a team logo at the middle, and maybe you'd put 474 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 2: an NCAA logo to cover it or at least some 475 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: sort of branding, and it caused for a slippery surface. 476 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: But now if you're making three different courts out of 477 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: the year, Yeah, what's the big deal? Just make another one. 478 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: And if you're gonna do the NBA Cup moving forward, 479 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: then you really should just have these courts ready, you 480 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 481 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. If they're piecing these together, 482 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: why can't you just have a middle. 483 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: Piece that's exactly and just. 484 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: Exchange that correct? Yes, but that's that would be too easy. Yes, 485 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: that would be too easy, Just like playing Joe Burrow 486 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: last week for the Cincinnati Bengals, Because if you watched 487 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: last night, I a couple of times wondered on quarterback 488 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: sneaks how Joe Burrow was going to handle I wondered 489 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: I was going to do on the move. I wondered 490 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: I was going to do when he ran the football. 491 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: And there seemed to me no ill effects for Joe 492 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: Burrow in that win against the Ravens. Heck, he was 493 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: our Tiract player of the day. Then why didn't he 494 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: play last week? 495 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: Are you saying this because I'm in the middle here 496 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: and I know that's not the answer you want. Are 497 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: you saying this though, because they won? Because I feel 498 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: like at the time this was the right decision. I 499 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: think the Bengals were like, I don't know if we 500 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: can beat the Patriots. 501 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: Why are we going to rush you on a short week. 502 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: Let's bring you back for the divisional game. 503 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: But then you see him and you're like, it does 504 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: seem like you could have maybe played Mancy. 505 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't mean to use your words against you. I'm 506 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: going to you just said that there's no great teams 507 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: in the NFL. I go, right, So why would you 508 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: think the Patriots are any different than the Ravens or 509 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: any other team, especially when you're at home. So if 510 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: you that thinking doesn't fit for the Bengals to think 511 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: the Patriots were too tough of an opponent. 512 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you are correct, I understand that, but still I 513 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 4: just the Patriots have won nine in a row. 514 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it means they're due for loss. 515 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: And you're right, but we knew that the Bengals defense 516 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: can't stop a nosebleed. So I think at the time, 517 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: at the time, it was the right choice. But maybe 518 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: now when they're looking at it, oh, maybe you could 519 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: have won that game that you only lost by six. 520 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: The Bengals right now, their playoff chance, according to NFL 521 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: dot Com, is two percent. 522 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: Nice, they have a two percent, so you're saying there's 523 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: a chance. 524 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: But leading into the Patriots game, if they would have lost, 525 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: they would have had a less than one percent chance 526 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: of making the playoffs, and if they would have won 527 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: that game, it would have been one percent. So they 528 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: lost the game, so it was less than one. So 529 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: it went from less than one to two percent. They 530 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: weren't entirely eliminated. There's still beyond the Dolphins of the 531 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: wild card. However, the reason Joe Burrow came back was 532 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: to hopefully win the division, and you have to beat 533 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: your division opponents. But if you don't have Joe Burrow 534 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: to beat the Patriots, which, by the way, in a 535 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: game that Joe Flacco threw a pick six, Joe Burrow 536 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: didn't turn the football over. Yeah, so like there's like 537 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: that is the reason that you played Joe Burrow. If 538 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: you get that win, you're now five and with a 539 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: win over the Ravens in hand, you got the Bills 540 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: coming up next week. You have the Ravens again, there's 541 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: an opportunity to knock them off. You have a win 542 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: over Pittsburgh earlier this season. So when you're talking about 543 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: division and tiebreakers. It was there. It was the whole 544 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: reason to get Joe Burrow back, and Joe Burrow then 545 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: this week says well, I'm gonna play regardless if we're 546 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: in it and if I'm healthy, Like, that's my mindset 547 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: to play. And now after one night on a Thursday 548 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: night where they go to Baltimore and win, which maybe 549 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: was the one that people thought that they couldn't do, 550 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: we're like, wow, look at this. And Joe Burrow actually 551 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: looked rusty last night. So now you're saying yourself, what 552 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: happens if he gets in rhythm? What happens is the 553 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: Bengals can win some more football games than actually be 554 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: in this which is the reason why he should have 555 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: played five days ago. 556 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: You know, Jamar Chase was like, Joe, you need to 557 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: play against the Ravens because you know how much I 558 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 4: like to go off against them, and I can't do 559 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: it without. 560 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: You, yeah, and without Tag. 561 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: And without Tea Higgins. So I need you to play. Yeah. 562 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: Again, I thought it was the right move, but you're right. 563 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 4: If you're going to be aggressive, you might as well 564 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 4: be aggressive. Why were you not aggressive from the beginning? 565 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: Why are you aggressive now? 566 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: Which? 567 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: And I hear you, but you know, Joe Burrow has 568 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 4: been injured a lot throughout his career, and so there's that. 569 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 3: It's that balance. 570 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: Do we have to be aggressive, but knowing that he 571 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: has been hurt, how aggressive can you be? 572 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Do you want to be? It's just a tough I 573 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: don't know he has. 574 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: A turf had a turf toe injury, because now it 575 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: feels like it's in the rear view mirror that took 576 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: him eight weeks to recover from, to be able to 577 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: nine weeks when he was activated, and then ultimately playing. 578 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: It was injured in Week two, so we'll give it 579 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: ten eleven weeks to recover from. I'm just saying, if 580 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow would have reaggravated the injury, he's not going 581 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: to play again this season, which then the Bengals like, 582 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: all right, our season's kind of down the river. I 583 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: know you're paying him fifty five million dollars, but it's 584 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: also an injury. To my understanding, that wouldn't be something 585 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: considering he was able to come back from it a 586 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: month earlier than expected, that he'd be able to take 587 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: the offseason and be able to recover and be back 588 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six. I'm not saying that they're risking 589 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's feature by playing him last Sunday. But Joe 590 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: Burrow wasn't fifty percent last Sunday. Joe Burrow was probably 591 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: ninety five percent last Sunday. And so now he goes 592 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: and place Thursday night and doesn't look like there are 593 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: any ill effects whatsoever in a game where you didn't have, 594 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: by the way Jamar Chase because of the suspension that 595 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: he played, if the Bengals would have beaten New England 596 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: and if there wouldn't have been a pick six by 597 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco in that game, the plan for Cincinnati all along, 598 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: or their hopes all along, would be right at the footstep. 599 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: They'd be a game back right now of the division lead, 600 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: and then the thick of it with a schedule that 601 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: includes the Dolphins, Cardinals and ends with the Browns after 602 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: that Bill's Ravens game. Those are winnable football games. And 603 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: so I just don't know why in a span of 604 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: five days, Joe Burrow looked like he had no ill 605 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: effects Thursday night, but wasn't good enough to play in 606 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Week twelve. 607 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity for the Bengals, 608 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: and it's just it's just tough. But I think you're right, 609 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: why didn't Maybe he even should have played a little 610 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: bit against New England, maybe like not as a starter, 611 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: have yeah, have Flacco out there, but just to get 612 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 4: in a rhythm, because you're right, he didn't. 613 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his normal self. 614 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: And you can see it's your first game back, understandably, 615 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: so so yeah. 616 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: Why did you play a little bit? 617 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: Thank you? 618 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: Damn it? 619 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: Dan, You're right they could have they could have this this, 620 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: This would have made the AFC way more interesting. But 621 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: just last night he did not look like there were 622 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: any yeah, ill effects to one, and he had been 623 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: practicing for the previous two weeks. And I understand that 624 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: this is this is kind of gravy because you thought 625 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: it was going to be mid December. But if he 626 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: was this close on a short week, how many guys 627 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: do how many times do guys miss a game on 628 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: Sunday and then our immediately ruled out so they can 629 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: have that extra rest the week after That would have 630 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: been the play for me, Like I actually would have 631 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: understood it more Manzi if they didn't play Joe Burrow 632 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: last night. Then I would say, like, Okay, now I 633 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: see why you didn't play them in week twelve. You 634 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: wanted that extra rest. Maybe they don't beat the Ravens 635 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: last night with Joe Flacco, but that makes more sense 636 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: to me seeing how good he was last night. Now 637 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: doesn't add up on why he didn't play last Sunday, 638 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: which really could have had the Bengals in this playoff picture. 639 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, it could have been a missed opportunity. 640 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: They missed opportunitytunity for sure. She's Moncey Milanio. So I'm 641 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: Dan Byer. We are in for Doug Gottlieb. Today. Sesame 642 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: Street helped raise all of us. 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Every time 659 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: I look up and the Bears had the football, DeAndre 660 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: Swift is running somewhere. He was in the end zone earlier, 661 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: had just a big runs. He's on the field right now. 662 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Bears converting a third down and getting to midfield wasn't 663 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't to DeAndre Swift. It was to Olamedes Zechias 664 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: and the Bears are now Yes, no midfield. I thought 665 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: this was an all Eagles game, by the. 666 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, well you really did, yes, really? 667 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 6: You know. 668 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: The Bears have looked, I think, better than and anticipated expected. 669 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: They're not it's not that they're great, but they're good. 670 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: They're good on many you know, aspects of the game. 671 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: They're good. 672 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: I thought they were frauds. Yeah, I really did. I 673 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: looked at who they be stand and what they have 674 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: done over the last couple of weeks, and I was 675 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: just each time. I don't know if my threshold was 676 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: too high. I wasn't impressed. But right now, going to 677 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: Philly on a short week, have a seven to three lead, 678 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: move the football. That's all you can ask for. It 679 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 2: may be saying more about Philadelphia, but yeah, I'm starting 680 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: to think my Bears are frauds. Take maybe not aging 681 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: so well. 682 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've won four in a row. 683 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: They've won eight out out of their last nine. The 684 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 4: only loss came to the Ravens without Lamar Jackson. But 685 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: I think they just they look good. They're not great, 686 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: but they're good in so many different parts of the 687 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: game that it gives them the edge a lot. 688 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: They're running the ball manang Guy has added a physical 689 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: presence to go along with DeAndre Swift, and honestly, Caleb 690 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: Williams looks better. Do is not trying to do everything? 691 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: Yes, he's not playing here at the ball correct? 692 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and so and it's not just all Rome 693 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: with Dunza. They're getting Luther Burden into the action. DeAndre 694 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: Swift excuse me, DJ Moore at a touchdown last week. 695 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, the Bears are filling out and Caleb Williams 696 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: just gets a first down on the third and one, 697 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: so even further on Eagles territory. 698 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: Just happy. 699 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: I feel like last year, when you're losing, it's hard 700 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: to look happy. I understand all that, but even his 701 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: face just looks different when you're watching Caleb Williams play 702 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: a little more relaxed, a little bit, you know, having fun. 703 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, we'll di more into this coming up in just 704 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: a little bit as the Eagles and Bears again the 705 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: lone NFL game on this Black Friday, but there are 706 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: other games as well, and Isaac low and Kron brings 707 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: just one of them. 708 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 6: This is Game Time Games on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 709 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: Hello, Isaac, what have you got today? 710 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 8: You know what I think, Dan and Monsei. It's the 711 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 8: perfect topic for a day like today. I got DIBs. 712 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 8: Speaking of dibbs, just one quick note. After an Old 713 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 8: Missus victory in the Egg Bowl, Lane Kiffin said after 714 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 8: the game he has not made a decision yet about 715 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 8: his future and that he has a lot of praying 716 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 8: to do about it. Onto the business at hand. We're 717 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 8: gonna have the gang here place their DIBs on their 718 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 8: favorite football holidays. So among those to choose from, of course, 719 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 8: Thanksgiving Today, Black Friday, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, 720 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 8: New Year's Day? What football holidays do we have DIBs on? 721 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna take DIBs on New Year's Day. 722 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: I like New Year's Day because I means, like, if 723 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: I'm working at school, but if I'm at home, I 724 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: don't have to leave my bed and I don't have 725 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 4: to see anyone. I don't have for Thanksgiving, Like can 726 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: we talking about to go see your family? You gotta 727 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: like do things on Thanksgiving Day. 728 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: Don't expect to see me. If I don't have to work, 729 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: I don't have to leave my bed and I could 730 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: just watch football day. 731 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna take New Year's Day because I thought 732 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: the non college football fan, it's not that you don't 733 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: like college football, it's just not that. And she takes 734 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: New Year's Day, I'll say, gosh, that's okay, that's okay. 735 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: I'll take New Year's Eve. Then I'll just take New 736 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Year's even leading up to it because there are at 737 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: times playoff games or back then bowl games that would 738 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: lead into New Year's Day. So I'll take New Year's Eve. 739 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: I got Thanksgiving. It just feels right, feel sure? Yeah, 740 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: lines on Thanksgiving. There's nothing better than that. If you 741 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: ask me, Ryan, you want to. 742 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 10: In, I will take Christmas because usually I'm not working. 743 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 10: I got my mom's home cooking, and I got football. 744 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 8: Nice, all right, Memo yourself, don't text Monsey on New 745 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 8: Year's Day? 746 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 6: All right? 747 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: You can text me not disturbed? 748 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 6: All right? 749 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: Next subject here on I got DIBs college football rival games. 750 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 6: What do you guys have DIBs on there? 751 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I got DIBs on Ohio State Michigan. Of 752 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: course I don't know like fifty percent of it, but yeah, 753 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: give me Ohio State Michigan. I got the Iron Bowl. 754 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, ivern in Alabama? Another one just feels right. Yeah, 755 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: I know there's there's a big one that's hanging out there. Moncei. 756 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: College football rivalries. 757 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: You know I have to take because I don't have 758 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 4: a team. I'm going to take the LA rivalry UCLA USCA. 759 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: Both teams wearing their home uniforms when they play the 760 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: blue in the maroon. Yeah, all right, Ryan Smith, I. 761 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 10: Wasn't gonna go on Michigan Ohio State only because of 762 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 10: the fighting and the pepper spring. 763 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: That's great. I love that, but I'll. 764 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 10: Take a I'll take Texas versus Oklahoma, Ah Red River 765 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 10: one of the better ones. 766 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: Isaac. You're at college football at Fiscionado. 767 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 8: You know, I literally just discovered this just for the heck. 768 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 8: I decided to google it. And I had no idea 769 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 8: that the rivalry between Middle Tennessee and Western can which 770 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 8: started in nineteen fourteen, was known as the one hundred 771 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 8: Miles of Hate. That's a pretty good name for a 772 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 8: rivalry game. One other note, Dan, I don't know if 773 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 8: you knew this as far as Ohio State Michigan, but 774 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 8: Woody Hayes, the legendary Ohio State head coach, his home 775 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 8: phone number was listed in the phone book. If you 776 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 8: call that same phone number literally to this day, literally 777 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 8: right now, and I can give you the number. If 778 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 8: you call what was his home phone number, it will 779 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 8: automatically play a recording of a Woody Hayes pep talk before. 780 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 6: A Michigan game. 781 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: I swear that is like. 782 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 6: The coolest thing I just found out about. 783 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 784 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 6: All right. 785 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 8: Our next item, Oh boy, this is going to be 786 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 8: controversial around here. Look out now. 787 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: By the way, no one said army Navy. No, no 788 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: one said yes. The biggest rivalry that maybe there ultimately. 789 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 8: Is yeah, uh, Thanksgiving leftovers? 790 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 6: What do we have DIBs on? 791 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: Green bean castrole? 792 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: You know? 793 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 8: My mother in law made a spectacular one yesterday. 794 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: By the way, turkey, I got DIBs on just the turkey. 795 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: I got mashed potatoes. I think when it heats well, 796 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 5: it does and you could throw some like the Yeah, 797 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 5: well you know love that? 798 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough? 799 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 10: All right, Ryan, Well some people call it dressing, some 800 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 10: people call it stuffing. But I take that that is delicious, 801 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 10: especially how my mom makes it. 802 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: How does your mom make it good? 803 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 6: And you can't have any geez? Is there some tea 804 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 6: there between you and most about leftover? 805 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: He just is a hater that I call him by 806 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: his proper name and not the name that he wants to. 807 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 3: It's not you, Ryan, Your legal name is what I'm 808 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: gonna call you. Change your name legally to pop there 809 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: and I will call. 810 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 8: You that, and uh, I will actually have my children 811 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 8: answer in lieu of me. 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