WEBVTT - Jets Minicamp Practice Review (6/18) 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.200 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast. Mini 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 Camp is in the books. Training camp about a month 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.799 away and next time the Jets are on the field, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.159 probably not the opening day of training camp, but the 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:14.560 pads will come on, which is when the real test 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.799 is for the Jets. What is it about now, thirty 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.040 to forty days or something before the start of training camp, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.320 probably a four day acclamation period, like you said, before 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.520 the pads do come on, and it's gonna be interesting 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.680 to see how the players use this time off because 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.839 Robert Salo is always talking about investments and also how 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.320 can you better yourself every single day now that they're 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.000 away from one Jet stride. That's gonna be up to 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:48.040 each individual. And I know that there's not like a 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.120 whole lot that you can take out of being in 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:51.640 shorts and a T shirt, but it's what we have 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.720 to go off. So let's talk about what's transpired here 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.200 a mini camp. How About let's just start with a 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.840 couple of players who have actually before we get to that, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.640 let's just talk about Zack Wilson, Right, I mean, that's 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.119 what guys want to know, right, That's what everybody wants 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.280 to know. Who's tuning into this podcast, and if you're 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.440 Jets fan, you want to know how number two is 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.600 performing on the field. And I would say you have 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.559 to take with a grain of salt because the pads 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.680 aren't on yet, but I think so far he's checked 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.560 most boxes. Well, were you impressed? The other day when 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.839 Greg Nap, the Jets passing game specialist, and Michael Fleur, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.520 of course, the team's offensive coordinator, talked about Wilson just 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.760 intelligence that he brings to the table. Nap, who's been 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.840 in the league for shoot near thirty years and he's 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.120 worked with a lot of good quarterbacks along the way, 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.800 said that he doesn't make the same mistakes twice. And 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:48.480 then la Fleur said here later on during UM mandatory 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.280 mini camp, and they might have done this during O 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.240 t A s is that they had a lot of 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:57.320 unscripted periods for Wilson. So I mean that just shows 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.120 that they kept on throwing a lot at his plate. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.880 He's got that attitude where he can't get enough UM. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:10.920 So he's a quarterback who's extremely gifted physically, there's no 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.079 doubt about that. But what potentially could set him apart 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.680 down the line is that I think he's got a 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.880 really unique hunger for the game, and he's also really intelligent. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.680 And what I really liked about what Zack Wilson said 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.640 when he was asked, well, what are you gonna do 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.639 in your break? You know, are you gonna take time 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.120 away from football? Because you've spent essentially from his last 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.560 game against U c F where you lit up U 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.600 c F in his bowl game, then you have the 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:46.000 draft process, then rookie minicamp, O t as minicamp. It's 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.240 been NonStop, So you're gonna get away from football? He said, well, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.040 I kind of think like watching film is my time 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.239 away from football, where you give your legs a rest, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.760 but you're still getting after him mentally. And he said 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.720 that he was planning on organizing something with I assume 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.880 the other the quarterbacks on the team, Mike White and 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.480 James Morgan right now and the skill players to have 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.519 a throwing session and at some point between now June 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.200 seventeenth and the beginning of training camp. Does that surprise 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.959 you at all? But I like it? Yeah? Yeah, no doubt. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.600 I mean I wasn't being sarcastic. That just fits who 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.359 he is is that he can't get enough and he 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.320 loves ball as the guys like to say, and that's 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.760 definitely accurate. And uh, I like to on the field 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.519 out there. Fleur was asked the other day, it seems 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.400 like you're taking more shots down the field, and he 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.960 was like, well, that was actually part of the script. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.920 It's just kind of the way the defense was playing 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.520 on playing us. We saw the cornerbacks, the defensive back 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.280 squatting a little bit, so we started throwing the ball 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:53.160 down the field. And where Wilson continue to shine is 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.160 isz accuracies. You know, what did you think about it? 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.960 The shorts and T shirts? And we'll continue to come 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.400 back on that um. But like he said, for a quarterback, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.160 he doesn't feel like it's much difference because the rush 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.960 is common, the coverage in the back end, you're seeing 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.960 different things and different looks. You gotta go through your progressions, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.360 you gotta get the ball out quickly. Even in those practices, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.000 and he just showed a great touch with the football. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.159 I thought that I was very impressed. I thought that 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.320 he had an impressive spring. Is where I'll start, and 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.440 I know, and we'll continue to harp on it. Like 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.080 you said, shorts and a T shirt not the full thing. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.560 Just quite yet, but I thought he showed good ball placement, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.040 touch velocity when he needed it. And I really thought that, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.760 you know, there were a couple of players where you're like, oh, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.600 you know, I don't really know what you're looking at 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.960 on that one, but I think that's to be expected. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:52.080 And I thought that he looked very comfortable considering that 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:56.239 he's a rookie and a what is a complex system, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.640 And I thought that he was quite impressive to me. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.599 And I'm interested to see if anything changes when the 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.480 pads come on or not, because there have been guys 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.880 in the past who have been extremely productive in the spring. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.799 And I'm not saying this is gonna happen to Wilson, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.440 but that player that I'm referencing was not productive in 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.080 training camp and didn't make the team. Okay, listen, here's 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.440 the thing is that for Wilson, it can't come fast enough, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.880 meaning like he's gonna drop back in the in the pocket, 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.120 and he wants to go through those progressions very quick 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.440 and for him, he wants to do less thinking. And 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.359 some of what we saw on the field was him 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.320 thinking but him being frustrated myself. And you did not 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.919 notice it. If you came to practice, you would say, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.960 this guy delivers like a veteran quarterback. There were not 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.920 a lot of times where he was a skin in 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.880 the field and the ball wasn't coming out, but for him, 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.359 he was going slow. So again, I love what La 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.119 Fleur said the other day too. We saw them work 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.200 a lot in the red zone and speaking a time. Mean, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:05.440 the quarterback position is so complicated, complicated, there's so many 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.960 steps involved. And he said that something that they didn't 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.600 talk to Wilson about was changing your drops. But he 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:17.039 inherently knew that down there in the red zone, I 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.359 even have less time, so I have to change my drops. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.960 And that's not something that Greg Knapp and La Fleur 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.279 talk to him about. He naturally did it on his own. Yeah, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.359 I think I've been very impressed with the athlete of 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.920 Zack Wilson, right, And you know, we haven't seen him 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.880 do like a whole lot, right, We haven't seen him 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.520 like play basketball. I know a lot of people have 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.680 talked about his prowess on the hardwood, but we haven't 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.520 seen that. You but you can just tell that there's 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.560 a natural feel for the position and just being an 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.880 athlete under center and you know one guy that I 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.839 think that we should talk about a little bit is 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.120 Jamison Crowder. And Jack Wilson hasn't thrown to Jamison Crowder, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:57.400 but Jamison Crowder is a quarterback friendly target everywhere he's been, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.040 whether that's here in New York or with Washington in 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:06.040 and Jamison was here for mandatory manicamp and then he 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.080 was acclimating right like all the guys that showed up 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.200 for mandatory camp, like Sheldon Rankins and Marcus May, Jamison Crowder, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.600 they didn't partake in teen drills or seven on seven. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.880 They were in the acclamation period. But with Crowder, this 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.680 wide receiver's room is very deep right now. And I'm 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.000 just curious to your take on how Crowder fits in 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.080 because he's a very good player. Well, just take what 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.440 Robert Salis said that we anticipate that he's going to 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.240 continue to do what he's done throughout his career, which 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.440 is make plays. And as far as the receiving group 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.680 as a whole, before we get a little bit more 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.320 into Crowder, it's probably the most improved position group on 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.559 the roster. Uh, you could say that without even playing 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:56.640 a game. I know we'll get to Elijah more. He's dynamic. Uh. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.800 Corey Davis only took a few team rops out there, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.280 like he said about the acclamation period, but he's a 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.000 big body target Um who views himself as a number 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.880 one receiver. Braxton and Burials, the ten was getting the 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:15.080 ball all over the place throughout the spring. Um Denzel mims, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.119 he can't forget about him. He really flashed that last 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.680 day of mandatory minicamp. But listen, Crowdy Crowder is a 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.640 crafty player who can beat man, who can find a 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:31.920 hole in his own And after renegotiating his contract with 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.560 the team, he didn't come in here and salk. He 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.840 just said, this is a business. Yeah, it might have 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.120 been a little bit surprised by it, but he's ready 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.840 to go. And he's also he also sounded very positive 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.160 about the system right because he sees similarities between what 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.440 Mike Lafleurs running and what Jake Gruden ran in Washington 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.920 and when Crowder was there, he and he compared it 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.320 to when he was on a team with DeShawn Jackson, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.319 Pierre Garceon and Jordan Reed and others. He said, when 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.360 you're in a system like that like the one the 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.240 Jets have said, everybody can eat if you if you 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.079 execute it right, and I think you bring up Elijah More. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.080 It leads me to my next point is people, I 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.080 think it is a I think it is a common 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:17.440 take that people say, oh, well, Elijah Moore slot receiver, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.160 Jamison Crowd or slot receiver. Well, if you listen to 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.320 Michael Flour and coach Salah talk about how Elijah Moore 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.040 lines up outside inside, they said, um, well, Michael Flour 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.160 was saying, how Miles Austin has done a great job. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.880 Miles Austin's the wide receiver's coach at the Jets, of course, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.359 used to play in the league, most notably for the Cowboys. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.600 But he was saying that for Elijah More, he lied 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.960 him up at the X, at the Z, at the F, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.280 which is the slot. So I would I would say 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.599 that there is definitely a situation or different packages or 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.800 situations plural where Elijah Moore is on the outside, which 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.400 means that maybe you do have somebody like Crowd or 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.560 on the inside in a situation like that, Oh yeah, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.920 you have a lot of flexibility could go out there 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.960 and have Corey Davis out there on the field with 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.640 a Elijah Moore Anna, Jameson Crowder and the three receiver 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:13.719 set that that you could do that a lot potentially 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.400 um And again we talked about Mims em Barrios, and 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.839 there's a few other receivers I did not even mention 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.959 ke keenlan Cole, who had a tremendous spring, has been 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.560 very productive himself throughout his NFL career, and the Jets 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.319 like what he brings to the table. He's got a 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.520 unique personality, likes to have a lot of fun on 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.400 the football field. But we saw a lot of eight 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.320 eight out there, especially early in the spring. But you 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:42.040 talk about position flexibility, the Jets think more can line 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.880 up at the X Z and the F and they're 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.280 also working him in a little bit at the punt 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.720 return position. So that just speaks to this guy makes 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.600 things happen with the ball in his hands. And what 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.280 do you think about this? I see a parallel between 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.360 him and Zach Wilson. Not only have these guys established 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.359 a really good bond and connection that you see translating 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.160 to the field, but as far as their work ethic, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.600 because everybody talks about Wilson can't get enough, well, they're 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.079 seeing the same thing about Elijah More. Yeah, I think 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.080 it's a great point, and we've heard that from two 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.120 different coordinators. Michael Floor said that Elijah Moore catches balls 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.320 off the jug machine at the indoor facility at like 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.560 seven in the morning. Brand Bowyer says before that he's 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.400 taking punt returns or it punps off the jugs to 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.400 try to get better at tracking the ball. That's what 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.600 Brand Boyer was saying, that that's the next step in. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.800 You know, he really likes the talent there, but if 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.840 you're a punt returne, you've gotta be sure handed. And 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.280 right now he's saying that Elijah Moore needs to improve 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.600 his tracking the ball, and you pointed to that at 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:53.080 a practice too, But you wouldn't count against More becoming 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.920 good at that because there's very few things he can't 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.400 do on the field. Yeah, I totally agree with that. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.959 I'm excited to see what these rookies will do, not 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:07.520 only with pads on, but once they start facing different competition, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.280 because I would it's hard to tell with Elijah Bara 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.480 Tucker just because you know, the pads aren't on, and 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.040 it's hard to evaluate offensive linemen in general, let alone 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.000 without pads. But if you look at Zach Wilson, Elijah More, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.439 Michael Carter, and then you even think about some of 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.400 the defensive guys, it feels like all of them have 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.839 not only received a lot of reps, but they've all 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.760 flashed at different times throughout the spring, which is an 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.480 impressive I think is impressive. You know, I hate to 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:41.560 pump the brakes because they haven't played any games, but yeah, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.120 this is a talented draft class. These guys have great 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.079 mindsets individually. Uh, in the really talented ballplayers. You can 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.800 see that even with the hot the pads coming on, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:57.640 and that even you talked about throughout that draft class. Well, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.040 a couple of guys who are highly athletic who I 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.719 can't wait actually to see when the pants come on, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.040 are on the other side of the ball, and that's 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.640 Hamson nos Roldan and also Jamie Sherwood. Yeah, me too. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.280 Listening to Jeff all Brick talking about loves him both 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.720 him talking well, first of all, he's talking about Sherwood 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.800 and I'm like, oh my god, Like he he's talking 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:26.920 about how Jamie Sherwood has like an uncanny knack for 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.600 the playbook considering where he is, and he's talking about 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.160 how he has a command of the defense already. You know, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.040 he's not calling plays with C. J. Mosley out there, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.400 but if he's the if he's the next guy up right, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.720 it seems like he's like I've seen him called plays 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.680 in certain situations in minicamps, so it seems so that's impressive. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.600 Then he's talking about Hamsa who has like the longest 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.160 wingspan I think of any he might have the longest 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.760 wingspan on the team. He has long arms, he might 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.680 you might think like, oh, he's a little thin. But 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.520 then all Brick is talking about his anticipation and there 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.840 was one play, I don't know if you recall it. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.720 There was one play probably yesterday in the red zone 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.280 and he was on a on a running back and 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:13.679 he just very fluid motions, very smoothly worked with him 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.840 on an angle route, just knocked down the ball. Now 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.760 was it? It just looked like it was easy for him, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.160 and it was like, okay, well that was interesting. Yeah. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.880 I think all Brick talked about instincts, instincts and anticipation 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.920 with novel deans and listen, um, this is a very 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:34.320 positive staff, but they also don't have to go out 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.080 of their way, um sometimes and I don't think he 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.440 was going out of his way. It's just that these 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.720 two dudes have already impressed. And I'm sure that staff 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.720 is very excited to see what the linebackers can do 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.000 as a whole, because we remember C. J. Mosley previously 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.080 on the Official Chess Podcast that a lot of raw 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.720 talent in that in that room, and a lot of 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.240 people I think would say linebacker is a question mark 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.480 for the New York Jets. I actually, I'm very excited 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.000 to see what this group starts out at and then 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.400 what it becomes done a lot. Yeah, me too, and 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.280 I don't I have questions that I want to bring 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.720 up because but I'm tabling them for our training camp 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:25.160 preview podcast, Like, for example, who's somebody that you could 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.640 see breaking out in training camp? But we're not gonna 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.920 answer that because I want to save that for training camp. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.880 I just kind of wanna. I want to hit on 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.000 two more things. One of them is we mentioned a 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.640 lot of players, but is there anybody that we have 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.240 not mentioned that you think has been impressive throughout the spring, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.400 whether that's Mini camp or O T A. S. That's 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.680 very interesting. Um. I think we always go to the 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.480 skill position players in the spring, just because the nature 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:59.520 of being out there in shorts. UM John Benton, who's 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.000 the run game in coordinator, offensive line coach, um very 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:09.120 complimentary of Elijah Vera Tucker, And you know, it's just 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.680 about him being a positive force out there on the field. 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.040 He's committed to learning the scheme and he also fits 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.680 in very well with the guys. And I think people 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.160 are gonna learn more about Elijah Vera Tucker in our 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.320 podcast profile series. But I think it's like his leadership 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:31.600 and intangibles are they're they're very good at this stage 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.840 of his career. Yeah, listening to Benton talked about Vera Tucker, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:38.880 you get the sense it's like, okay, like he's done 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.600 everything he can up until this point and the next 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.080 point is pads. So I think the early reviews of 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.840 a VT have been very positive. You just mentioned the 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.520 podcast profile series. That's what we've had up our sleeve. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.880 That's coming next week or shortly thereafter. So I don't 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.760 want to give too many details because we'll hear from 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.920 that in a bit. But let's just wrap up with this. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.879 What's next for the Jets in terms of that might 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.080 seem like a silly question because there's literally nothing on 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.080 tap here for the next month on the football field. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.040 But you know, what do you think the next step 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.160 in the evolution of an extremely young team that by 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.639 all accounts seems extremely hungry. What's the next step in 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.879 their process as they inch closer to Week one at Carolina? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.040 You got me thinking your last question, what do you 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.040 think about Hassle's spring without Marcus maybeing here for most 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.280 of the spring and came here for mandatory minicamp, was 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.359 out there in the acclamation period. LaMarcus Joiner of course 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.440 running with the ones, He's going to give you a 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.600 lot of versatility and defensive backfield um, but at the 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.680 safety position Ashton Davis coming off surgery, so he wasn't 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.840 able to get out there with his reps. What do 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.680 you think about Hassle and potentially just the depth he 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.560 can give you at the position? J T. Hassle, I 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.960 think had a nice spring, like a quietly nice spring. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.760 He definitely he had at least one pick I think 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:09.560 two and definitely two one, Okay, definitely too. And then 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.480 I thought he had a nice spring, and I think 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.560 he took advantage of opportunities at at his position. And 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.480 I don't want to compare it to Burrios, but like 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.439 Burrios also took advantage of reps at his position. You 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.120 mentioned you mentioned him earlier, but you know he became 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.000 a frequent target of Zach Wilson. He wasn't just a 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.920 guy who like flashed a couple of days like Burrios. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.640 I think it was a little more consistent with his production. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.040 But also, you know, it's not like there were a 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.960 ton of interceptions in the spring, and I feel like 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.359 j T Hassel definitely had the most. So I'm I'm interested. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.000 I'm interested to see how he performed with past. What 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.120 did you think and we and again I'm not trying 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.640 to get too far off tangent here, but what did 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.560 you think about the rookie cornerback from Oregon State? Isaiah Donne? 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.200 I was going to mention Pinnock actually, because both those 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.960 guys can make a push in camp. Those are the 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.800 guys that you want to watch right when the pants 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:08.360 come on. Yeah, And and like I I'm really excited 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:12.639 to see who emerges from that rookie cornerback crop. So 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.360 I thought, Isaiah, I don't want to get too much 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.159 into it because I want to table some of it 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.879 for the previous Okay, but but but done was impressive? 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.120 Can we say that? All Brick did say the other 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.840 day that he's not only got the potential to push 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.920 for a roster spot, but maybe pushed for playing time 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.119 right off the bat, and all Brick said that the 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.840 Jets almost drafted him, they ended up going in a 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.359 different direction and they were surprised and ecstatic that he 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:42.159 was available in undrafted free agency. So I'm wanting to 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.720 give fair credit to a couple of names because you're 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.160 saying that, you know, we've devoted a lot of time 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.159 talking about the draft class, and be honest with how 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.440 about Jabari's unique Also, I think an underrated impressive spring, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.359 I'd agree with that. And got to the quarterback showing 0:19:55.440 --> 0:20:00.680 some explosion while that defensive line has it's really deep 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.080 and what are the how are the numbers gonna shake 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.239 out once it wants a couple of these guys get 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.679 back on the field and taking those reps, namely quinnin 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.320 Williams coming off the minor surgery, and also Sheldon Rankings 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.480 and yeah, fully got banged up a little bit early 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.600 on my minor in uh O t A sessions but 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.040 you got rankings to one the inside, so um, you know, 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.959 I think Vinny Curry is gonna be a big presence 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.160 for this team as well. The numbers game is super interesting, 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.240 especially up front. I'll tell you what so um and 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.040 as June seventeenth that we're having this conversation. Granted, you 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:40.640 know things crystallized and the month of July, but right now, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.200 it's like a fun exercise to go through the roster 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.280 and be like, okay, how many defensive linemen you think 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.600 are on the fifty three man roster and then start 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.399 naming names. You start running out of finger you know, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.400 you start running out of digits on your hands when 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.200 you're going through it. So it's a fun little exercise. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.080 But you know, we got a month until things start 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.119 to uh get a little more crystas. So what you 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.119 said from now until training camp for for those guys 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.879 will watch from afar and see if SEC Wilson doesn't 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.520 d follow through, which I imagine he will. He probably 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.359 has that all set up. I'm sure those guys got 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.520 playing trips already booked somewhere and probably somewhere warm. Although 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.200 I would like I would if I were a receiver. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.399 I want to go to Utah. Going to Utah different. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.840 I wouldn't mind going to southern California either, just as 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.960 long as I don't have to drive there. But what 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.760 about not drive from New Jersey. Just drive in southern California. 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:36.200 I feel like it's probably gonna be a warm weather state. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.960 Whether that's I feel like it's always either California or Florida. 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.280 His base operations. I think three d QB is in 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.159 Huntington Beach. That doesn't mean that they have to go 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.040 to l A. Sure that could have them in Utah. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.359 You know, well, I'm thinking like, where are these skill 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:56.200 guys from? Right? So you think Florida could be? Yeah, 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.200 I don't remember where Corey did. Oh, he's Illinois, so 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:03.600 that's like Editor of America ish right, Denzel Mims Texas Center, 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.879 so he's you know, they didn't go either way. Then 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:10.240