Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast. Mini
Speaker 1: Camp is in the books. Training camp about a month
Speaker 1: away and next time the Jets are on the field,
Speaker 1: probably not the opening day of training camp, but the
Speaker 1: pads will come on, which is when the real test
Speaker 1: is for the Jets. What is it about now, thirty
Speaker 1: to forty days or something before the start of training camp,
Speaker 1: probably a four day acclamation period, like you said, before
Speaker 1: the pads do come on, and it's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how the players use this time off because
Speaker 1: Robert Salo is always talking about investments and also how
Speaker 1: can you better yourself every single day now that they're
Speaker 1: away from one Jet stride. That's gonna be up to
Speaker 1: each individual. And I know that there's not like a
Speaker 1: whole lot that you can take out of being in
Speaker 1: shorts and a T shirt, but it's what we have
Speaker 1: to go off. So let's talk about what's transpired here
Speaker 1: a mini camp. How About let's just start with a
Speaker 1: couple of players who have actually before we get to that,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about Zack Wilson, Right, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what guys want to know, right, That's what everybody wants
Speaker 1: to know. Who's tuning into this podcast, and if you're
Speaker 1: Jets fan, you want to know how number two is
Speaker 1: performing on the field. And I would say you have
Speaker 1: to take with a grain of salt because the pads
Speaker 1: aren't on yet, but I think so far he's checked
Speaker 1: most boxes. Well, were you impressed? The other day when
Speaker 1: Greg Nap, the Jets passing game specialist, and Michael Fleur,
Speaker 1: of course, the team's offensive coordinator, talked about Wilson just
Speaker 1: intelligence that he brings to the table. Nap, who's been
Speaker 1: in the league for shoot near thirty years and he's
Speaker 1: worked with a lot of good quarterbacks along the way,
Speaker 1: said that he doesn't make the same mistakes twice. And
Speaker 1: then la Fleur said here later on during UM mandatory
Speaker 1: mini camp, and they might have done this during O
Speaker 1: t A s is that they had a lot of
Speaker 1: unscripted periods for Wilson. So I mean that just shows
Speaker 1: that they kept on throwing a lot at his plate.
Speaker 1: He's got that attitude where he can't get enough UM.
Speaker 1: So he's a quarterback who's extremely gifted physically, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But what potentially could set him apart
Speaker 1: down the line is that I think he's got a
Speaker 1: really unique hunger for the game, and he's also really intelligent.
Speaker 1: And what I really liked about what Zack Wilson said
Speaker 1: when he was asked, well, what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: in your break? You know, are you gonna take time
Speaker 1: away from football? Because you've spent essentially from his last
Speaker 1: game against U c F where you lit up U
Speaker 1: c F in his bowl game, then you have the
Speaker 1: draft process, then rookie minicamp, O t as minicamp. It's
Speaker 1: been NonStop, So you're gonna get away from football? He said, well,
Speaker 1: I kind of think like watching film is my time
Speaker 1: away from football, where you give your legs a rest,
Speaker 1: but you're still getting after him mentally. And he said
Speaker 1: that he was planning on organizing something with I assume
Speaker 1: the other the quarterbacks on the team, Mike White and
Speaker 1: James Morgan right now and the skill players to have
Speaker 1: a throwing session and at some point between now June
Speaker 1: seventeenth and the beginning of training camp. Does that surprise
Speaker 1: you at all? But I like it? Yeah? Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't being sarcastic. That just fits who
Speaker 1: he is is that he can't get enough and he
Speaker 1: loves ball as the guys like to say, and that's
Speaker 1: definitely accurate. And uh, I like to on the field
Speaker 1: out there. Fleur was asked the other day, it seems
Speaker 1: like you're taking more shots down the field, and he
Speaker 1: was like, well, that was actually part of the script.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of the way the defense was playing
Speaker 1: on playing us. We saw the cornerbacks, the defensive back
Speaker 1: squatting a little bit, so we started throwing the ball
Speaker 1: down the field. And where Wilson continue to shine is
Speaker 1: isz accuracies. You know, what did you think about it?
Speaker 1: The shorts and T shirts? And we'll continue to come
Speaker 1: back on that um. But like he said, for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like it's much difference because the rush
Speaker 1: is common, the coverage in the back end, you're seeing
Speaker 1: different things and different looks. You gotta go through your progressions,
Speaker 1: you gotta get the ball out quickly. Even in those practices,
Speaker 1: and he just showed a great touch with the football.
Speaker 1: I thought that I was very impressed. I thought that
Speaker 1: he had an impressive spring. Is where I'll start, and
Speaker 1: I know, and we'll continue to harp on it. Like
Speaker 1: you said, shorts and a T shirt not the full thing.
Speaker 1: Just quite yet, but I thought he showed good ball placement,
Speaker 1: touch velocity when he needed it. And I really thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, there were a couple of players where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know what you're looking at
Speaker 1: on that one, but I think that's to be expected.
Speaker 1: And I thought that he looked very comfortable considering that
Speaker 1: he's a rookie and a what is a complex system,
Speaker 1: And I thought that he was quite impressive to me.
Speaker 1: And I'm interested to see if anything changes when the
Speaker 1: pads come on or not, because there have been guys
Speaker 1: in the past who have been extremely productive in the spring.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is gonna happen to Wilson,
Speaker 1: but that player that I'm referencing was not productive in
Speaker 1: training camp and didn't make the team. Okay, listen, here's
Speaker 1: the thing is that for Wilson, it can't come fast enough,
Speaker 1: meaning like he's gonna drop back in the in the pocket,
Speaker 1: and he wants to go through those progressions very quick
Speaker 1: and for him, he wants to do less thinking. And
Speaker 1: some of what we saw on the field was him
Speaker 1: thinking but him being frustrated myself. And you did not
Speaker 1: notice it. If you came to practice, you would say,
Speaker 1: this guy delivers like a veteran quarterback. There were not
Speaker 1: a lot of times where he was a skin in
Speaker 1: the field and the ball wasn't coming out, but for him,
Speaker 1: he was going slow. So again, I love what La
Speaker 1: Fleur said the other day too. We saw them work
Speaker 1: a lot in the red zone and speaking a time. Mean,
Speaker 1: the quarterback position is so complicated, complicated, there's so many
Speaker 1: steps involved. And he said that something that they didn't
Speaker 1: talk to Wilson about was changing your drops. But he
Speaker 1: inherently knew that down there in the red zone, I
Speaker 1: even have less time, so I have to change my drops.
Speaker 1: And that's not something that Greg Knapp and La Fleur
Speaker 1: talk to him about. He naturally did it on his own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I've been very impressed with the athlete of
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, right, And you know, we haven't seen him
Speaker 1: do like a whole lot, right, We haven't seen him
Speaker 1: like play basketball. I know a lot of people have
Speaker 1: talked about his prowess on the hardwood, but we haven't
Speaker 1: seen that. You but you can just tell that there's
Speaker 1: a natural feel for the position and just being an
Speaker 1: athlete under center and you know one guy that I
Speaker 1: think that we should talk about a little bit is
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder. And Jack Wilson hasn't thrown to Jamison Crowder,
Speaker 1: but Jamison Crowder is a quarterback friendly target everywhere he's been,
Speaker 1: whether that's here in New York or with Washington in
Speaker 1: and Jamison was here for mandatory manicamp and then he
Speaker 1: was acclimating right like all the guys that showed up
Speaker 1: for mandatory camp, like Sheldon Rankins and Marcus May, Jamison Crowder,
Speaker 1: they didn't partake in teen drills or seven on seven.
Speaker 1: They were in the acclamation period. But with Crowder, this
Speaker 1: wide receiver's room is very deep right now. And I'm
Speaker 1: just curious to your take on how Crowder fits in
Speaker 1: because he's a very good player. Well, just take what
Speaker 1: Robert Salis said that we anticipate that he's going to
Speaker 1: continue to do what he's done throughout his career, which
Speaker 1: is make plays. And as far as the receiving group
Speaker 1: as a whole, before we get a little bit more
Speaker 1: into Crowder, it's probably the most improved position group on
Speaker 1: the roster. Uh, you could say that without even playing
Speaker 1: a game. I know we'll get to Elijah more. He's dynamic. Uh.
Speaker 1: Corey Davis only took a few team rops out there,
Speaker 1: like he said about the acclamation period, but he's a
Speaker 1: big body target Um who views himself as a number
Speaker 1: one receiver. Braxton and Burials, the ten was getting the
Speaker 1: ball all over the place throughout the spring. Um Denzel mims,
Speaker 1: he can't forget about him. He really flashed that last
Speaker 1: day of mandatory minicamp. But listen, Crowdy Crowder is a
Speaker 1: crafty player who can beat man, who can find a
Speaker 1: hole in his own And after renegotiating his contract with
Speaker 1: the team, he didn't come in here and salk. He
Speaker 1: just said, this is a business. Yeah, it might have
Speaker 1: been a little bit surprised by it, but he's ready
Speaker 1: to go. And he's also he also sounded very positive
Speaker 1: about the system right because he sees similarities between what
Speaker 1: Mike Lafleurs running and what Jake Gruden ran in Washington
Speaker 1: and when Crowder was there, he and he compared it
Speaker 1: to when he was on a team with DeShawn Jackson,
Speaker 1: Pierre Garceon and Jordan Reed and others. He said, when
Speaker 1: you're in a system like that like the one the
Speaker 1: Jets have said, everybody can eat if you if you
Speaker 1: execute it right, and I think you bring up Elijah More.
Speaker 1: It leads me to my next point is people, I
Speaker 1: think it is a I think it is a common
Speaker 1: take that people say, oh, well, Elijah Moore slot receiver,
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowd or slot receiver. Well, if you listen to
Speaker 1: Michael Flour and coach Salah talk about how Elijah Moore
Speaker 1: lines up outside inside, they said, um, well, Michael Flour
Speaker 1: was saying, how Miles Austin has done a great job.
Speaker 1: Miles Austin's the wide receiver's coach at the Jets, of course,
Speaker 1: used to play in the league, most notably for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But he was saying that for Elijah More, he lied
Speaker 1: him up at the X, at the Z, at the F,
Speaker 1: which is the slot. So I would I would say
Speaker 1: that there is definitely a situation or different packages or
Speaker 1: situations plural where Elijah Moore is on the outside, which
Speaker 1: means that maybe you do have somebody like Crowd or
Speaker 1: on the inside in a situation like that, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of flexibility could go out there
Speaker 1: and have Corey Davis out there on the field with
Speaker 1: a Elijah Moore Anna, Jameson Crowder and the three receiver
Speaker 1: set that that you could do that a lot potentially
Speaker 1: um And again we talked about Mims em Barrios, and
Speaker 1: there's a few other receivers I did not even mention
Speaker 1: ke keenlan Cole, who had a tremendous spring, has been
Speaker 1: very productive himself throughout his NFL career, and the Jets
Speaker 1: like what he brings to the table. He's got a
Speaker 1: unique personality, likes to have a lot of fun on
Speaker 1: the football field. But we saw a lot of eight
Speaker 1: eight out there, especially early in the spring. But you
Speaker 1: talk about position flexibility, the Jets think more can line
Speaker 1: up at the X Z and the F and they're
Speaker 1: also working him in a little bit at the punt
Speaker 1: return position. So that just speaks to this guy makes
Speaker 1: things happen with the ball in his hands. And what
Speaker 1: do you think about this? I see a parallel between
Speaker 1: him and Zach Wilson. Not only have these guys established
Speaker 1: a really good bond and connection that you see translating
Speaker 1: to the field, but as far as their work ethic,
Speaker 1: because everybody talks about Wilson can't get enough, well, they're
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing about Elijah More. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's a great point, and we've heard that from two
Speaker 1: different coordinators. Michael Floor said that Elijah Moore catches balls
Speaker 1: off the jug machine at the indoor facility at like
Speaker 1: seven in the morning. Brand Bowyer says before that he's
Speaker 1: taking punt returns or it punps off the jugs to
Speaker 1: try to get better at tracking the ball. That's what
Speaker 1: Brand Boyer was saying, that that's the next step in.
Speaker 1: You know, he really likes the talent there, but if
Speaker 1: you're a punt returne, you've gotta be sure handed. And
Speaker 1: right now he's saying that Elijah Moore needs to improve
Speaker 1: his tracking the ball, and you pointed to that at
Speaker 1: a practice too, But you wouldn't count against More becoming
Speaker 1: good at that because there's very few things he can't
Speaker 1: do on the field. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what these rookies will do, not
Speaker 1: only with pads on, but once they start facing different competition,
Speaker 1: because I would it's hard to tell with Elijah Bara
Speaker 1: Tucker just because you know, the pads aren't on, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate offensive linemen in general, let alone
Speaker 1: without pads. But if you look at Zach Wilson, Elijah More,
Speaker 1: Michael Carter, and then you even think about some of
Speaker 1: the defensive guys, it feels like all of them have
Speaker 1: not only received a lot of reps, but they've all
Speaker 1: flashed at different times throughout the spring, which is an
Speaker 1: impressive I think is impressive. You know, I hate to
Speaker 1: pump the brakes because they haven't played any games, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a talented draft class. These guys have great
Speaker 1: mindsets individually. Uh, in the really talented ballplayers. You can
Speaker 1: see that even with the hot the pads coming on,
Speaker 1: and that even you talked about throughout that draft class. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who are highly athletic who I
Speaker 1: can't wait actually to see when the pants come on,
Speaker 1: are on the other side of the ball, and that's
Speaker 1: Hamson nos Roldan and also Jamie Sherwood. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: Listening to Jeff all Brick talking about loves him both
Speaker 1: him talking well, first of all, he's talking about Sherwood
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, Like he he's talking
Speaker 1: about how Jamie Sherwood has like an uncanny knack for
Speaker 1: the playbook considering where he is, and he's talking about
Speaker 1: how he has a command of the defense already. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not calling plays with C. J. Mosley out there,
Speaker 1: but if he's the if he's the next guy up right,
Speaker 1: it seems like he's like I've seen him called plays
Speaker 1: in certain situations in minicamps, so it seems so that's impressive.
Speaker 1: Then he's talking about Hamsa who has like the longest
Speaker 1: wingspan I think of any he might have the longest
Speaker 1: wingspan on the team. He has long arms, he might
Speaker 1: you might think like, oh, he's a little thin. But
Speaker 1: then all Brick is talking about his anticipation and there
Speaker 1: was one play, I don't know if you recall it.
Speaker 1: There was one play probably yesterday in the red zone
Speaker 1: and he was on a on a running back and
Speaker 1: he just very fluid motions, very smoothly worked with him
Speaker 1: on an angle route, just knocked down the ball. Now
Speaker 1: was it? It just looked like it was easy for him,
Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, well that was interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think all Brick talked about instincts, instincts and anticipation
Speaker 1: with novel deans and listen, um, this is a very
Speaker 1: positive staff, but they also don't have to go out
Speaker 1: of their way, um sometimes and I don't think he
Speaker 1: was going out of his way. It's just that these
Speaker 1: two dudes have already impressed. And I'm sure that staff
Speaker 1: is very excited to see what the linebackers can do
Speaker 1: as a whole, because we remember C. J. Mosley previously
Speaker 1: on the Official Chess Podcast that a lot of raw
Speaker 1: talent in that in that room, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people I think would say linebacker is a question mark
Speaker 1: for the New York Jets. I actually, I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to see what this group starts out at and then
Speaker 1: what it becomes done a lot. Yeah, me too, and
Speaker 1: I don't I have questions that I want to bring
Speaker 1: up because but I'm tabling them for our training camp
Speaker 1: preview podcast, Like, for example, who's somebody that you could
Speaker 1: see breaking out in training camp? But we're not gonna
Speaker 1: answer that because I want to save that for training camp.
Speaker 1: I just kind of wanna. I want to hit on
Speaker 1: two more things. One of them is we mentioned a
Speaker 1: lot of players, but is there anybody that we have
Speaker 1: not mentioned that you think has been impressive throughout the spring,
Speaker 1: whether that's Mini camp or O T A. S. That's
Speaker 1: very interesting. Um. I think we always go to the
Speaker 1: skill position players in the spring, just because the nature
Speaker 1: of being out there in shorts. UM John Benton, who's
Speaker 1: the run game in coordinator, offensive line coach, um very
Speaker 1: complimentary of Elijah Vera Tucker, And you know, it's just
Speaker 1: about him being a positive force out there on the field.
Speaker 1: He's committed to learning the scheme and he also fits
Speaker 1: in very well with the guys. And I think people
Speaker 1: are gonna learn more about Elijah Vera Tucker in our
Speaker 1: podcast profile series. But I think it's like his leadership
Speaker 1: and intangibles are they're they're very good at this stage
Speaker 1: of his career. Yeah, listening to Benton talked about Vera Tucker,
Speaker 1: you get the sense it's like, okay, like he's done
Speaker 1: everything he can up until this point and the next
Speaker 1: point is pads. So I think the early reviews of
Speaker 1: a VT have been very positive. You just mentioned the
Speaker 1: podcast profile series. That's what we've had up our sleeve.
Speaker 1: That's coming next week or shortly thereafter. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to give too many details because we'll hear from
Speaker 1: that in a bit. But let's just wrap up with this.
Speaker 1: What's next for the Jets in terms of that might
Speaker 1: seem like a silly question because there's literally nothing on
Speaker 1: tap here for the next month on the football field.
Speaker 1: But you know, what do you think the next step
Speaker 1: in the evolution of an extremely young team that by
Speaker 1: all accounts seems extremely hungry. What's the next step in
Speaker 1: their process as they inch closer to Week one at Carolina?
Speaker 1: You got me thinking your last question, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Hassle's spring without Marcus maybeing here for most
Speaker 1: of the spring and came here for mandatory minicamp, was
Speaker 1: out there in the acclamation period. LaMarcus Joiner of course
Speaker 1: running with the ones, He's going to give you a
Speaker 1: lot of versatility and defensive backfield um, but at the
Speaker 1: safety position Ashton Davis coming off surgery, so he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to get out there with his reps. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Hassle and potentially just the depth he
Speaker 1: can give you at the position? J T. Hassle, I
Speaker 1: think had a nice spring, like a quietly nice spring.
Speaker 1: He definitely he had at least one pick I think
Speaker 1: two and definitely two one, Okay, definitely too. And then
Speaker 1: I thought he had a nice spring, and I think
Speaker 1: he took advantage of opportunities at at his position. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare it to Burrios, but like
Speaker 1: Burrios also took advantage of reps at his position. You
Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned him earlier, but you know he became
Speaker 1: a frequent target of Zach Wilson. He wasn't just a
Speaker 1: guy who like flashed a couple of days like Burrios.
Speaker 1: I think it was a little more consistent with his production.
Speaker 1: But also, you know, it's not like there were a
Speaker 1: ton of interceptions in the spring, and I feel like
Speaker 1: j T Hassel definitely had the most. So I'm I'm interested.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how he performed with past. What
Speaker 1: did you think and we and again I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to get too far off tangent here, but what did
Speaker 1: you think about the rookie cornerback from Oregon State? Isaiah Donne?
Speaker 1: I was going to mention Pinnock actually, because both those
Speaker 1: guys can make a push in camp. Those are the
Speaker 1: guys that you want to watch right when the pants
Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, And and like I I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see who emerges from that rookie cornerback crop. So
Speaker 1: I thought, Isaiah, I don't want to get too much
Speaker 1: into it because I want to table some of it
Speaker 1: for the previous Okay, but but but done was impressive?
Speaker 1: Can we say that? All Brick did say the other
Speaker 1: day that he's not only got the potential to push
Speaker 1: for a roster spot, but maybe pushed for playing time
Speaker 1: right off the bat, and all Brick said that the
Speaker 1: Jets almost drafted him, they ended up going in a
Speaker 1: different direction and they were surprised and ecstatic that he
Speaker 1: was available in undrafted free agency. So I'm wanting to
Speaker 1: give fair credit to a couple of names because you're
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, we've devoted a lot of time
Speaker 1: talking about the draft class, and be honest with how
Speaker 1: about Jabari's unique Also, I think an underrated impressive spring,
Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. And got to the quarterback showing
Speaker 1: some explosion while that defensive line has it's really deep
Speaker 1: and what are the how are the numbers gonna shake
Speaker 1: out once it wants a couple of these guys get
Speaker 1: back on the field and taking those reps, namely quinnin
Speaker 1: Williams coming off the minor surgery, and also Sheldon Rankings
Speaker 1: and yeah, fully got banged up a little bit early
Speaker 1: on my minor in uh O t A sessions but
Speaker 1: you got rankings to one the inside, so um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Vinny Curry is gonna be a big presence
Speaker 1: for this team as well. The numbers game is super interesting,
Speaker 1: especially up front. I'll tell you what so um and
Speaker 1: as June seventeenth that we're having this conversation. Granted, you
Speaker 1: know things crystallized and the month of July, but right now,
Speaker 1: it's like a fun exercise to go through the roster
Speaker 1: and be like, okay, how many defensive linemen you think
Speaker 1: are on the fifty three man roster and then start
Speaker 1: naming names. You start running out of finger you know,
Speaker 1: you start running out of digits on your hands when
Speaker 1: you're going through it. So it's a fun little exercise.
Speaker 1: But you know, we got a month until things start
Speaker 1: to uh get a little more crystas. So what you
Speaker 1: said from now until training camp for for those guys
Speaker 1: will watch from afar and see if SEC Wilson doesn't
Speaker 1: d follow through, which I imagine he will. He probably
Speaker 1: has that all set up. I'm sure those guys got
Speaker 1: playing trips already booked somewhere and probably somewhere warm. Although
Speaker 1: I would like I would if I were a receiver.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Utah. Going to Utah different.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind going to southern California either, just as
Speaker 1: long as I don't have to drive there. But what
Speaker 1: about not drive from New Jersey. Just drive in southern California.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably gonna be a warm weather state.
Speaker 1: Whether that's I feel like it's always either California or Florida.
Speaker 1: His base operations. I think three d QB is in
Speaker 1: Huntington Beach. That doesn't mean that they have to go
Speaker 1: to l A. Sure that could have them in Utah.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm thinking like, where are these skill
Speaker 1: guys from? Right? So you think Florida could be? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember where Corey did. Oh, he's Illinois, so
Speaker 1: that's like Editor of America ish right, Denzel Mims Texas Center,
Speaker 1: so he's you know, they didn't go either way. Then
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like p rhyme cole I don't know where
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson from? And then um, who else we got
Speaker 1: cole Man? I don't know. I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna end up being Florida, that's my guess. Um, But
Speaker 1: what do these guys have to do? Robert Sala who
Speaker 1: it's a father of seven, said, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: spend some time with my kids. Obviously, it's been a
Speaker 1: rhurlwin year for him. Considering you're the defensive coordinator of
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. You'll lose your guys, You're
Speaker 1: still able to lead them to a top ten ranking,
Speaker 1: which was an amazing coaching job. You get to judge
Speaker 1: job in January, so then you have to get everything
Speaker 1: together here and he's just been running. He's just been running,
Speaker 1: so hell of a time to wind down a little bit,
Speaker 1: he said. Though, when I'm not spending time with the
Speaker 1: kids and I'm not at the pool or at the
Speaker 1: golf course, I'll be watching film. Um, so he we
Speaker 1: gotta try to get on the course with him. He
Speaker 1: sounds way too good for us. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: we we we could carry for him. I think he
Speaker 1: probably shoots in the eighties. Yeah. Um, but it installations right,
Speaker 1: the installations were in so it's a lot of review
Speaker 1: and then from a personnel perspective, the two positions I'm
Speaker 1: watching right now. You know, there's been some talks that
Speaker 1: the Jets gonna have some interest at the tackle position,
Speaker 1: which will follow here over the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: but cornerback and quarterback, Uh, it seems likely we're headed
Speaker 1: to Zack Wilson starting in Week one against the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: That seems extremely likely likely. I think the team did
Speaker 1: take the right approach during the spring, getting James Morrigan
Speaker 1: and Mike White goes backup reps um. But could a
Speaker 1: veteran being the cards here prior to training camp or
Speaker 1: right at the start of training camp. Same thing with
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. We talked about Done, We talked about Pennock,
Speaker 1: we talked about Brandon Nicholes, we talked about mc squared. Um,
Speaker 1: you've got a lot a lot of young dudes, um
Speaker 1: bless Austin was dealing with the minor injury. We saw
Speaker 1: Bryce Hall. He's gonna be competing for a position on
Speaker 1: the outside, some playtime on the outside. But do you
Speaker 1: think the Jets at a veteran corner here at some point?
Speaker 1: It's a young group and it's I think the easy
Speaker 1: answer is yes, right. But listening to Solid today it
Speaker 1: makes you pump the brakes a little bit because he's
Speaker 1: talking about how Pete Carroll told him once like he
Speaker 1: can't be afraid to play young guys and they liked
Speaker 1: the group they have, They like the guys they added,
Speaker 1: but I feel like when push comes to shove, there's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a veteran face in there. I looked
Speaker 1: this up today. The oldest cornerback on the roster is
Speaker 1: Justin Hardy, who doesn't really play cornerback. And after that
Speaker 1: it's Corey Ballentine and Elijah Campbell. Both of those dudes
Speaker 1: are twenty five. So I mean you're talking about a
Speaker 1: young group. You're also talking about an inexperience group because
Speaker 1: the guys that I just mentioned are not named Blessed
Speaker 1: Austin and Bryce Hall, who are the two guys who
Speaker 1: started the most and played the most last year out
Speaker 1: of anybody else on this cornerbacks group. Very good point.
Speaker 1: We've got to monitor both of those situations. There position
Speaker 1: groups here that have plenty of depths. Like in years
Speaker 1: past we look at coming full circle here, we would
Speaker 1: look at the wide receiver position. They are the Jets
Speaker 1: gonna add somebody. Now you're wondering as you go down
Speaker 1: the list and look at the roster, like how many
Speaker 1: guys are they gonna keep position right? And awesome point
Speaker 1: that you just made about solid today I thought he
Speaker 1: was fantastic. He always is. He's so cerebral. You definitely
Speaker 1: like the freight train thing at the end, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: But when he mentioned Pete Carroll, who what salo is
Speaker 1: there in two thousand and eleven, I think that's right.
Speaker 1: And you just mentioned Pete Carroll. You can't be afraid
Speaker 1: to play young guys. They're hell on wheels and they're
Speaker 1: fun to watch. You could go either way just mentally.
Speaker 1: There's so many things they can learn. But they're going
Speaker 1: to be ups and downs. That's part of youth, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be part of the New York Jets
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one season. They're gonna be ups and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be downs. But this is a young roster
Speaker 1: that has been really turned over and the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I thought that a find job this spring, and I
Speaker 1: think the guys are buying in. It's a very good
Speaker 1: bye out there, um, you know, but it's solid cautions.
Speaker 1: We won't know our identity until we go through those
Speaker 1: tough times together, and how are we going to respond
Speaker 1: to adversity? Right now, everything's good as they finish the spring.
Speaker 1: Knock on Glass Jets came out of this relative healthy
Speaker 1: as well. So I was reaching over to knock on
Speaker 1: the wood. There you go, you found a piece of
Speaker 1: wood there. But I will say what I like more
Speaker 1: than his identity answer was someone asked him what do
Speaker 1: you want your identity to be? And he was like,
Speaker 1: I can't answer that because he used a couple of
Speaker 1: different examples. He was talking about Don Shula defensive minded
Speaker 1: head coach, or he was talking about how that that
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense was their identity. Then Dan Marino comes along,
Speaker 1: then it changes, and he was talking about the same
Speaker 1: thing with the Patriots. Patriots defense, Bill Belichick, Willia mc
Speaker 1: guinnis Teddy Bruski, that whole team. Then Tom Brady comes along,
Speaker 1: changes the identity and the dynamics. So we don't know
Speaker 1: right now. And a great point, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you, is if you're playing tomorrow, what you're not
Speaker 1: You're not further ahead the Jets offense and the Jets defense.
Speaker 1: That's a great question playing each other. Just as far
Speaker 1: as the group is concerned. I think it's hard to
Speaker 1: answer because I think a lot of the guys we
Speaker 1: have not seen. Yeah, well no, I was even just
Speaker 1: gonna say quinnin May laws in rankins. Fully like, those
Speaker 1: are the guys who I want to see line up
Speaker 1: and how that defense looks. And I'm sure once they
Speaker 1: do line up, the defense might have an edge. But
Speaker 1: if you were to tell me tomorrow, I might give
Speaker 1: the edge to the offense. What would you say? And
Speaker 1: typically I would say this time of year, they edge
Speaker 1: goes to the defense. Yeah. I just think there's a
Speaker 1: misconception about the offense too. And Benton talked about it
Speaker 1: the other day that the West Coast offense us to
Speaker 1: be considered a finesse offense. Well, he said on first
Speaker 1: and second dial. And these guys are attacking, and they're
Speaker 1: attacking either in the run game from offensive line perspective,
Speaker 1: or they're attacking with the play action game. So these
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, I think are really going to enjoy the system.
Speaker 1: Um and so you're asking me, I thought there was
Speaker 1: a good back and forth, but these but these two
Speaker 1: groups aren't playing against each other. I just feel like
Speaker 1: if the Jets can figure out ways to score um
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot more production productive than they were last year. Is
Speaker 1: this defense might be able to tee off and mostly
Speaker 1: talk to us about it. I think it's imperative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be like, oh, yeah, of course you want
Speaker 1: to play with this, play with the lead. But the
Speaker 1: way they want to create chaos up front, I really
Speaker 1: think they might be able to dictate two teams if
Speaker 1: they can get this offense started early in the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens. And we got a
Speaker 1: long way until the end of August and the early
Speaker 1: parts of September, but right now, Mini Camp is in
Speaker 1: the books. Training Camp a month away, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be back for the Training Camp preview, but until then,
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