1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast. Mini 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Camp is in the books. Training camp about a month 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: away and next time the Jets are on the field, 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: probably not the opening day of training camp, but the 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: pads will come on, which is when the real test 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: is for the Jets. What is it about now, thirty 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to forty days or something before the start of training camp, 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: probably a four day acclamation period, like you said, before 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: the pads do come on, and it's gonna be interesting 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: to see how the players use this time off because 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Robert Salo is always talking about investments and also how 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: can you better yourself every single day now that they're 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: away from one Jet stride. That's gonna be up to 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: each individual. And I know that there's not like a 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: whole lot that you can take out of being in 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: shorts and a T shirt, but it's what we have 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: to go off. So let's talk about what's transpired here 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: a mini camp. How About let's just start with a 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: couple of players who have actually before we get to that, 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: let's just talk about Zack Wilson, Right, I mean, that's 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: what guys want to know, right, That's what everybody wants 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: to know. Who's tuning into this podcast, and if you're 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: Jets fan, you want to know how number two is 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: performing on the field. And I would say you have 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: to take with a grain of salt because the pads 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: aren't on yet, but I think so far he's checked 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: most boxes. Well, were you impressed? The other day when 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: Greg Nap, the Jets passing game specialist, and Michael Fleur, 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: of course, the team's offensive coordinator, talked about Wilson just 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: intelligence that he brings to the table. Nap, who's been 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: in the league for shoot near thirty years and he's 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: worked with a lot of good quarterbacks along the way, 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: said that he doesn't make the same mistakes twice. And 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: then la Fleur said here later on during UM mandatory 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: mini camp, and they might have done this during O 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: t A s is that they had a lot of 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: unscripted periods for Wilson. So I mean that just shows 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: that they kept on throwing a lot at his plate. 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: He's got that attitude where he can't get enough UM. 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: So he's a quarterback who's extremely gifted physically, there's no 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: doubt about that. But what potentially could set him apart 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: down the line is that I think he's got a 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: really unique hunger for the game, and he's also really intelligent. 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: And what I really liked about what Zack Wilson said 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: when he was asked, well, what are you gonna do 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: in your break? You know, are you gonna take time 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: away from football? Because you've spent essentially from his last 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: game against U c F where you lit up U 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: c F in his bowl game, then you have the 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: draft process, then rookie minicamp, O t as minicamp. It's 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: been NonStop, So you're gonna get away from football? He said, well, 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: I kind of think like watching film is my time 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: away from football, where you give your legs a rest, 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: but you're still getting after him mentally. And he said 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: that he was planning on organizing something with I assume 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the other the quarterbacks on the team, Mike White and 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: James Morgan right now and the skill players to have 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: a throwing session and at some point between now June 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: seventeenth and the beginning of training camp. Does that surprise 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: you at all? But I like it? Yeah? Yeah, no doubt. 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't being sarcastic. That just fits who 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: he is is that he can't get enough and he 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: loves ball as the guys like to say, and that's 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: definitely accurate. And uh, I like to on the field 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: out there. Fleur was asked the other day, it seems 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: like you're taking more shots down the field, and he 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: was like, well, that was actually part of the script. 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: It's just kind of the way the defense was playing 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: on playing us. We saw the cornerbacks, the defensive back 70 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: squatting a little bit, so we started throwing the ball 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: down the field. And where Wilson continue to shine is 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: isz accuracies. You know, what did you think about it? 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: The shorts and T shirts? And we'll continue to come 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: back on that um. But like he said, for a quarterback, 75 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like it's much difference because the rush 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: is common, the coverage in the back end, you're seeing 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: different things and different looks. You gotta go through your progressions, 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: you gotta get the ball out quickly. Even in those practices, 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: and he just showed a great touch with the football. 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I thought that I was very impressed. I thought that 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: he had an impressive spring. Is where I'll start, and 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I know, and we'll continue to harp on it. Like 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: you said, shorts and a T shirt not the full thing. 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Just quite yet, but I thought he showed good ball placement, 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: touch velocity when he needed it. And I really thought that, 86 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, there were a couple of players where you're like, oh, 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know what you're looking at 88 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: on that one, but I think that's to be expected. 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: And I thought that he looked very comfortable considering that 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: he's a rookie and a what is a complex system, 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: And I thought that he was quite impressive to me. 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: And I'm interested to see if anything changes when the 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: pads come on or not, because there have been guys 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: in the past who have been extremely productive in the spring. 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is gonna happen to Wilson, 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: but that player that I'm referencing was not productive in 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: training camp and didn't make the team. Okay, listen, here's 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: the thing is that for Wilson, it can't come fast enough, 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: meaning like he's gonna drop back in the in the pocket, 100 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: and he wants to go through those progressions very quick 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and for him, he wants to do less thinking. And 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: some of what we saw on the field was him 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: thinking but him being frustrated myself. And you did not 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: notice it. If you came to practice, you would say, 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: this guy delivers like a veteran quarterback. There were not 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of times where he was a skin in 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the field and the ball wasn't coming out, but for him, 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: he was going slow. So again, I love what La 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 1: Fleur said the other day too. We saw them work 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot in the red zone and speaking a time. Mean, 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback position is so complicated, complicated, there's so many 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: steps involved. And he said that something that they didn't 113 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: talk to Wilson about was changing your drops. But he 114 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: inherently knew that down there in the red zone, I 115 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: even have less time, so I have to change my drops. 116 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: And that's not something that Greg Knapp and La Fleur 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: talk to him about. He naturally did it on his own. Yeah, 118 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: I think I've been very impressed with the athlete of 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, right, And you know, we haven't seen him 120 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: do like a whole lot, right, We haven't seen him 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: like play basketball. I know a lot of people have 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: talked about his prowess on the hardwood, but we haven't 123 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: seen that. You but you can just tell that there's 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: a natural feel for the position and just being an 125 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: athlete under center and you know one guy that I 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: think that we should talk about a little bit is 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder. And Jack Wilson hasn't thrown to Jamison Crowder, 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: but Jamison Crowder is a quarterback friendly target everywhere he's been, 129 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: whether that's here in New York or with Washington in 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: and Jamison was here for mandatory manicamp and then he 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: was acclimating right like all the guys that showed up 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: for mandatory camp, like Sheldon Rankins and Marcus May, Jamison Crowder, 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: they didn't partake in teen drills or seven on seven. 134 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: They were in the acclamation period. But with Crowder, this 135 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver's room is very deep right now. And I'm 136 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: just curious to your take on how Crowder fits in 137 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: because he's a very good player. Well, just take what 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Robert Salis said that we anticipate that he's going to 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: continue to do what he's done throughout his career, which 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: is make plays. And as far as the receiving group 141 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: as a whole, before we get a little bit more 142 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: into Crowder, it's probably the most improved position group on 143 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: the roster. Uh, you could say that without even playing 144 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: a game. I know we'll get to Elijah more. He's dynamic. Uh. 145 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Corey Davis only took a few team rops out there, 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: like he said about the acclamation period, but he's a 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: big body target Um who views himself as a number 148 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: one receiver. Braxton and Burials, the ten was getting the 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: ball all over the place throughout the spring. Um Denzel mims, 150 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: he can't forget about him. He really flashed that last 151 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: day of mandatory minicamp. But listen, Crowdy Crowder is a 152 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: crafty player who can beat man, who can find a 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: hole in his own And after renegotiating his contract with 154 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: the team, he didn't come in here and salk. He 155 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: just said, this is a business. Yeah, it might have 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: been a little bit surprised by it, but he's ready 157 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: to go. And he's also he also sounded very positive 158 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: about the system right because he sees similarities between what 159 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: Mike Lafleurs running and what Jake Gruden ran in Washington 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: and when Crowder was there, he and he compared it 161 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: to when he was on a team with DeShawn Jackson, 162 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Pierre Garceon and Jordan Reed and others. He said, when 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: you're in a system like that like the one the 164 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Jets have said, everybody can eat if you if you 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: execute it right, and I think you bring up Elijah More. 166 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: It leads me to my next point is people, I 167 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: think it is a I think it is a common 168 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: take that people say, oh, well, Elijah Moore slot receiver, 169 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowd or slot receiver. Well, if you listen to 170 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Michael Flour and coach Salah talk about how Elijah Moore 171 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: lines up outside inside, they said, um, well, Michael Flour 172 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: was saying, how Miles Austin has done a great job. 173 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Miles Austin's the wide receiver's coach at the Jets, of course, 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 1: used to play in the league, most notably for the Cowboys. 175 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: But he was saying that for Elijah More, he lied 176 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: him up at the X, at the Z, at the F, 177 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: which is the slot. So I would I would say 178 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 1: that there is definitely a situation or different packages or 179 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: situations plural where Elijah Moore is on the outside, which 180 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: means that maybe you do have somebody like Crowd or 181 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: on the inside in a situation like that, Oh yeah, 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: you have a lot of flexibility could go out there 183 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: and have Corey Davis out there on the field with 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: a Elijah Moore Anna, Jameson Crowder and the three receiver 185 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: set that that you could do that a lot potentially 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: um And again we talked about Mims em Barrios, and 187 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: there's a few other receivers I did not even mention 188 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: ke keenlan Cole, who had a tremendous spring, has been 189 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: very productive himself throughout his NFL career, and the Jets 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: like what he brings to the table. He's got a 191 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: unique personality, likes to have a lot of fun on 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: the football field. But we saw a lot of eight 193 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: eight out there, especially early in the spring. But you 194 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: talk about position flexibility, the Jets think more can line 195 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: up at the X Z and the F and they're 196 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: also working him in a little bit at the punt 197 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: return position. So that just speaks to this guy makes 198 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: things happen with the ball in his hands. And what 199 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: do you think about this? I see a parallel between 200 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: him and Zach Wilson. Not only have these guys established 201 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 1: a really good bond and connection that you see translating 202 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: to the field, but as far as their work ethic, 203 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: because everybody talks about Wilson can't get enough, well, they're 204 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: seeing the same thing about Elijah More. Yeah, I think 205 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a great point, and we've heard that from two 206 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: different coordinators. Michael Floor said that Elijah Moore catches balls 207 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: off the jug machine at the indoor facility at like 208 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: seven in the morning. Brand Bowyer says before that he's 209 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: taking punt returns or it punps off the jugs to 210 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: try to get better at tracking the ball. That's what 211 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Brand Boyer was saying, that that's the next step in. 212 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, he really likes the talent there, but if 213 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: you're a punt returne, you've gotta be sure handed. And 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: right now he's saying that Elijah Moore needs to improve 215 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: his tracking the ball, and you pointed to that at 216 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: a practice too, But you wouldn't count against More becoming 217 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: good at that because there's very few things he can't 218 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: do on the field. Yeah, I totally agree with that. 219 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what these rookies will do, not 220 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: only with pads on, but once they start facing different competition, 221 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: because I would it's hard to tell with Elijah Bara 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Tucker just because you know, the pads aren't on, and 223 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate offensive linemen in general, let alone 224 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: without pads. But if you look at Zach Wilson, Elijah More, 225 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Michael Carter, and then you even think about some of 226 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the defensive guys, it feels like all of them have 227 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: not only received a lot of reps, but they've all 228 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: flashed at different times throughout the spring, which is an 229 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: impressive I think is impressive. You know, I hate to 230 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: pump the brakes because they haven't played any games, but yeah, 231 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: this is a talented draft class. These guys have great 232 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: mindsets individually. Uh, in the really talented ballplayers. You can 233 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: see that even with the hot the pads coming on, 234 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: and that even you talked about throughout that draft class. Well, 235 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: a couple of guys who are highly athletic who I 236 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: can't wait actually to see when the pants come on, 237 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: are on the other side of the ball, and that's 238 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Hamson nos Roldan and also Jamie Sherwood. Yeah, me too. 239 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Listening to Jeff all Brick talking about loves him both 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: him talking well, first of all, he's talking about Sherwood 241 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, Like he he's talking 242 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: about how Jamie Sherwood has like an uncanny knack for 243 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: the playbook considering where he is, and he's talking about 244 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: how he has a command of the defense already. You know, 245 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: he's not calling plays with C. J. Mosley out there, 246 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: but if he's the if he's the next guy up right, 247 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: it seems like he's like I've seen him called plays 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: in certain situations in minicamps, so it seems so that's impressive. 249 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Then he's talking about Hamsa who has like the longest 250 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: wingspan I think of any he might have the longest 251 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: wingspan on the team. He has long arms, he might 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: you might think like, oh, he's a little thin. But 253 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: then all Brick is talking about his anticipation and there 254 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: was one play, I don't know if you recall it. 255 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: There was one play probably yesterday in the red zone 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and he was on a on a running back and 257 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: he just very fluid motions, very smoothly worked with him 258 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: on an angle route, just knocked down the ball. Now 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: was it? It just looked like it was easy for him, 260 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, well that was interesting. Yeah. 261 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I think all Brick talked about instincts, instincts and anticipation 262 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: with novel deans and listen, um, this is a very 263 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: positive staff, but they also don't have to go out 264 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: of their way, um sometimes and I don't think he 265 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: was going out of his way. It's just that these 266 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: two dudes have already impressed. And I'm sure that staff 267 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: is very excited to see what the linebackers can do 268 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: as a whole, because we remember C. J. Mosley previously 269 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: on the Official Chess Podcast that a lot of raw 270 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: talent in that in that room, and a lot of 271 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: people I think would say linebacker is a question mark 272 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets. I actually, I'm very excited 273 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: to see what this group starts out at and then 274 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: what it becomes done a lot. Yeah, me too, and 275 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't I have questions that I want to bring 276 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: up because but I'm tabling them for our training camp 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: preview podcast, Like, for example, who's somebody that you could 278 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: see breaking out in training camp? But we're not gonna 279 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: answer that because I want to save that for training camp. 280 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I just kind of wanna. I want to hit on 281 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: two more things. One of them is we mentioned a 282 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: lot of players, but is there anybody that we have 283 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: not mentioned that you think has been impressive throughout the spring, 284 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: whether that's Mini camp or O T A. S. That's 285 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: very interesting. Um. I think we always go to the 286 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: skill position players in the spring, just because the nature 287 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: of being out there in shorts. UM John Benton, who's 288 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: the run game in coordinator, offensive line coach, um very 289 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: complimentary of Elijah Vera Tucker, And you know, it's just 290 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: about him being a positive force out there on the field. 291 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: He's committed to learning the scheme and he also fits 292 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: in very well with the guys. And I think people 293 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: are gonna learn more about Elijah Vera Tucker in our 294 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: podcast profile series. But I think it's like his leadership 295 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: and intangibles are they're they're very good at this stage 296 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: of his career. Yeah, listening to Benton talked about Vera Tucker, 297 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: you get the sense it's like, okay, like he's done 298 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: everything he can up until this point and the next 299 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: point is pads. So I think the early reviews of 300 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: a VT have been very positive. You just mentioned the 301 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: podcast profile series. That's what we've had up our sleeve. 302 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: That's coming next week or shortly thereafter. So I don't 303 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: want to give too many details because we'll hear from 304 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that in a bit. But let's just wrap up with this. 305 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: What's next for the Jets in terms of that might 306 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: seem like a silly question because there's literally nothing on 307 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: tap here for the next month on the football field. 308 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: But you know, what do you think the next step 309 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: in the evolution of an extremely young team that by 310 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: all accounts seems extremely hungry. What's the next step in 311 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: their process as they inch closer to Week one at Carolina? 312 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: You got me thinking your last question, what do you 313 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: think about Hassle's spring without Marcus maybeing here for most 314 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: of the spring and came here for mandatory minicamp, was 315 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: out there in the acclamation period. LaMarcus Joiner of course 316 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: running with the ones, He's going to give you a 317 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of versatility and defensive backfield um, but at the 318 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: safety position Ashton Davis coming off surgery, so he wasn't 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: able to get out there with his reps. What do 320 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you think about Hassle and potentially just the depth he 321 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: can give you at the position? J T. Hassle, I 322 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: think had a nice spring, like a quietly nice spring. 323 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: He definitely he had at least one pick I think 324 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: two and definitely two one, Okay, definitely too. And then 325 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: I thought he had a nice spring, and I think 326 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: he took advantage of opportunities at at his position. And 327 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to compare it to Burrios, but like 328 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: Burrios also took advantage of reps at his position. You 329 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned him earlier, but you know he became 330 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: a frequent target of Zach Wilson. He wasn't just a 331 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: guy who like flashed a couple of days like Burrios. 332 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: I think it was a little more consistent with his production. 333 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: But also, you know, it's not like there were a 334 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: ton of interceptions in the spring, and I feel like 335 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: j T Hassel definitely had the most. So I'm I'm interested. 336 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how he performed with past. What 337 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: did you think and we and again I'm not trying 338 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: to get too far off tangent here, but what did 339 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: you think about the rookie cornerback from Oregon State? Isaiah Donne? 340 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: I was going to mention Pinnock actually, because both those 341 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: guys can make a push in camp. Those are the 342 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: guys that you want to watch right when the pants 343 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, And and like I I'm really excited 344 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: to see who emerges from that rookie cornerback crop. So 345 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Isaiah, I don't want to get too much 346 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: into it because I want to table some of it 347 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: for the previous Okay, but but but done was impressive? 348 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: Can we say that? All Brick did say the other 349 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: day that he's not only got the potential to push 350 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: for a roster spot, but maybe pushed for playing time 351 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: right off the bat, and all Brick said that the 352 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Jets almost drafted him, they ended up going in a 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: different direction and they were surprised and ecstatic that he 354 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: was available in undrafted free agency. So I'm wanting to 355 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: give fair credit to a couple of names because you're 356 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, we've devoted a lot of time 357 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: talking about the draft class, and be honest with how 358 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: about Jabari's unique Also, I think an underrated impressive spring, 359 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. And got to the quarterback showing 360 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: some explosion while that defensive line has it's really deep 361 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and what are the how are the numbers gonna shake 362 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: out once it wants a couple of these guys get 363 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: back on the field and taking those reps, namely quinnin 364 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Williams coming off the minor surgery, and also Sheldon Rankings 365 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, fully got banged up a little bit early 366 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: on my minor in uh O t A sessions but 367 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: you got rankings to one the inside, so um, you know, 368 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: I think Vinny Curry is gonna be a big presence 369 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: for this team as well. The numbers game is super interesting, 370 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: especially up front. I'll tell you what so um and 371 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: as June seventeenth that we're having this conversation. Granted, you 372 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: know things crystallized and the month of July, but right now, 373 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: it's like a fun exercise to go through the roster 374 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: and be like, okay, how many defensive linemen you think 375 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: are on the fifty three man roster and then start 376 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: naming names. You start running out of finger you know, 377 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: you start running out of digits on your hands when 378 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: you're going through it. So it's a fun little exercise. 379 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: But you know, we got a month until things start 380 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: to uh get a little more crystas. So what you 381 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: said from now until training camp for for those guys 382 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: will watch from afar and see if SEC Wilson doesn't 383 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: d follow through, which I imagine he will. He probably 384 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: has that all set up. I'm sure those guys got 385 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: playing trips already booked somewhere and probably somewhere warm. Although 386 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: I would like I would if I were a receiver. 387 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: I want to go to Utah. Going to Utah different. 388 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind going to southern California either, just as 389 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: long as I don't have to drive there. But what 390 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: about not drive from New Jersey. Just drive in southern California. 391 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably gonna be a warm weather state. 392 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: Whether that's I feel like it's always either California or Florida. 393 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: His base operations. I think three d QB is in 394 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach. That doesn't mean that they have to go 395 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: to l A. Sure that could have them in Utah. 396 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm thinking like, where are these skill 397 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: guys from? Right? So you think Florida could be? Yeah, 398 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember where Corey did. Oh, he's Illinois, so 399 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: that's like Editor of America ish right, Denzel Mims Texas Center, 400 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: so he's you know, they didn't go either way. Then 401 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like p rhyme cole I don't know where 402 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Ty Johnson from? And then um, who else we got 403 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: cole Man? I don't know. I just feel like it's 404 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna end up being Florida, that's my guess. Um, But 405 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: what do these guys have to do? Robert Sala who 406 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: it's a father of seven, said, I can't wait to 407 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: spend some time with my kids. Obviously, it's been a 408 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: rhurlwin year for him. Considering you're the defensive coordinator of 409 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. You'll lose your guys, You're 410 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: still able to lead them to a top ten ranking, 411 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: which was an amazing coaching job. You get to judge 412 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: job in January, so then you have to get everything 413 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: together here and he's just been running. He's just been running, 414 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: so hell of a time to wind down a little bit, 415 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: he said. Though, when I'm not spending time with the 416 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: kids and I'm not at the pool or at the 417 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: golf course, I'll be watching film. Um, so he we 418 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: gotta try to get on the course with him. He 419 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: sounds way too good for us. Yeah, but you know 420 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: we we we could carry for him. I think he 421 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: probably shoots in the eighties. Yeah. Um, but it installations right, 422 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: the installations were in so it's a lot of review 423 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: and then from a personnel perspective, the two positions I'm 424 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: watching right now. You know, there's been some talks that 425 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: the Jets gonna have some interest at the tackle position, 426 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: which will follow here over the next couple of days, 427 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: but cornerback and quarterback, Uh, it seems likely we're headed 428 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to Zack Wilson starting in Week one against the Carolina Panthers. 429 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: That seems extremely likely likely. I think the team did 430 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: take the right approach during the spring, getting James Morrigan 431 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: and Mike White goes backup reps um. But could a 432 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: veteran being the cards here prior to training camp or 433 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: right at the start of training camp. Same thing with 434 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: the cornerback position. We talked about Done, We talked about Pennock, 435 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: we talked about Brandon Nicholes, we talked about mc squared. Um, 436 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: you've got a lot a lot of young dudes, um 437 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: bless Austin was dealing with the minor injury. We saw 438 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Bryce Hall. He's gonna be competing for a position on 439 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: the outside, some playtime on the outside. But do you 440 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: think the Jets at a veteran corner here at some point? 441 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: It's a young group and it's I think the easy 442 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: answer is yes, right. But listening to Solid today it 443 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: makes you pump the brakes a little bit because he's 444 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: talking about how Pete Carroll told him once like he 445 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: can't be afraid to play young guys and they liked 446 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: the group they have, They like the guys they added, 447 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: but I feel like when push comes to shove, there's 448 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a veteran face in there. I looked 449 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: this up today. The oldest cornerback on the roster is 450 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: Justin Hardy, who doesn't really play cornerback. And after that 451 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: it's Corey Ballentine and Elijah Campbell. Both of those dudes 452 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: are twenty five. So I mean you're talking about a 453 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: young group. You're also talking about an inexperience group because 454 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: the guys that I just mentioned are not named Blessed 455 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: Austin and Bryce Hall, who are the two guys who 456 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: started the most and played the most last year out 457 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: of anybody else on this cornerbacks group. Very good point. 458 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: We've got to monitor both of those situations. There position 459 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: groups here that have plenty of depths. Like in years 460 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: past we look at coming full circle here, we would 461 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: look at the wide receiver position. They are the Jets 462 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna add somebody. Now you're wondering as you go down 463 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: the list and look at the roster, like how many 464 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: guys are they gonna keep position right? And awesome point 465 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: that you just made about solid today I thought he 466 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: was fantastic. He always is. He's so cerebral. You definitely 467 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: like the freight train thing at the end, Yeah, I did. 468 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: But when he mentioned Pete Carroll, who what salo is 469 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: there in two thousand and eleven, I think that's right. 470 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: And you just mentioned Pete Carroll. You can't be afraid 471 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: to play young guys. They're hell on wheels and they're 472 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: fun to watch. You could go either way just mentally. 473 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: There's so many things they can learn. But they're going 474 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: to be ups and downs. That's part of youth, and 475 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: that's going to be part of the New York Jets 476 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one season. They're gonna be ups and 477 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be downs. But this is a young roster 478 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: that has been really turned over and the coaching staff. 479 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: I thought that a find job this spring, and I 480 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: think the guys are buying in. It's a very good 481 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: bye out there, um, you know, but it's solid cautions. 482 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: We won't know our identity until we go through those 483 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: tough times together, and how are we going to respond 484 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: to adversity? Right now, everything's good as they finish the spring. 485 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: Knock on Glass Jets came out of this relative healthy 486 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: as well. So I was reaching over to knock on 487 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: the wood. There you go, you found a piece of 488 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: wood there. But I will say what I like more 489 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: than his identity answer was someone asked him what do 490 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: you want your identity to be? And he was like, 491 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I can't answer that because he used a couple of 492 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: different examples. He was talking about Don Shula defensive minded 493 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: head coach, or he was talking about how that that 494 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins defense was their identity. Then Dan Marino comes along, 495 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: then it changes, and he was talking about the same 496 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: thing with the Patriots. Patriots defense, Bill Belichick, Willia mc 497 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: guinnis Teddy Bruski, that whole team. Then Tom Brady comes along, 498 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: changes the identity and the dynamics. So we don't know 499 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: right now. And a great point, and then I'm gonna 500 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: ask you, is if you're playing tomorrow, what you're not 501 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: You're not further ahead the Jets offense and the Jets defense. 502 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: That's a great question playing each other. Just as far 503 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: as the group is concerned. I think it's hard to 504 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: answer because I think a lot of the guys we 505 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: have not seen. Yeah, well no, I was even just 506 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna say quinnin May laws in rankins. Fully like, those 507 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: are the guys who I want to see line up 508 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: and how that defense looks. And I'm sure once they 509 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: do line up, the defense might have an edge. But 510 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: if you were to tell me tomorrow, I might give 511 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: the edge to the offense. What would you say? And 512 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: typically I would say this time of year, they edge 513 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: goes to the defense. Yeah. I just think there's a 514 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: misconception about the offense too. And Benton talked about it 515 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: the other day that the West Coast offense us to 516 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: be considered a finesse offense. Well, he said on first 517 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: and second dial. And these guys are attacking, and they're 518 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: attacking either in the run game from offensive line perspective, 519 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: or they're attacking with the play action game. So these 520 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, I think are really going to enjoy the system. 521 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Um and so you're asking me, I thought there was 522 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: a good back and forth, but these but these two 523 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: groups aren't playing against each other. I just feel like 524 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: if the Jets can figure out ways to score um 525 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be a hell of a 526 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: lot more production productive than they were last year. Is 527 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: this defense might be able to tee off and mostly 528 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: talk to us about it. I think it's imperative. Yeah, 529 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be like, oh, yeah, of course you want 530 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: to play with this, play with the lead. But the 531 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: way they want to create chaos up front, I really 532 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: think they might be able to dictate two teams if 533 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: they can get this offense started early in the season. Yeah, 534 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens. And we got a 535 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: long way until the end of August and the early 536 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: parts of September, but right now, Mini Camp is in 537 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: the books. Training Camp a month away, and you know, 538 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back for the Training Camp preview, but until then, 539 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: enjoy the podcast profile series. That's all we have for 540 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: this episode of the Official Jets podcast. H