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Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, why are these three stooges high key hilarious?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Why do these physical antics have me low key laughing?

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm so weird?

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Speaker 1: Why do Larry, Curly and Moe have me like giggling

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: The three stooges are just.

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Speaker 1: Like me and my friends for real, Like, I can

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Speaker 1: think of two other people I'd be like this with, Like,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what we would get up to by

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Speaker 1: the train track. Stop not Larry and Moe getting into

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Speaker 1: fisticuffs in front of a pretty lady.

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Speaker 3: That's literally me. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to

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Speaker 3: the Nodunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, January sixteenth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I'm g skets here in the Classic

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Speaker 3: Factory and alongside me as always.

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Speaker 4: Tasmelo podcast that There's this is for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, it's a beaudifulm a touch of hot

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Speaker 3: boy Trey Kirby, Hey out hey yo, and over yonder

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Speaker 3: the man making the magic happen, Super producer JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello, there he is here. We are.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the stream team joining us live right

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Speaker 3: the show. Podcast listeners leave us a five star rating

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Speaker 3: in review. We always appreciate that we've got lots to

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Speaker 3: talk about a little Later in the show, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: look at Sam Vasini's NBA trade board. Well, zero in

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Speaker 3: on the names at the top of the board, but

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Speaker 3: then look at some other intriguing names that could be

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Speaker 3: in some trade rumors. But we had lots of action

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Speaker 3: on MLK Day, got a few for you to touch on.

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Speaker 3: We can sort of go through as many as we want.

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Speaker 3: We'll begin with Draymond Green return with the Bills.

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Speaker 5: No, I I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: We could start with the bills if you want. How

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Speaker 3: about the box?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: How about that fifty two yard run?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen a little ballfache that was great?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Should we be allowed to fake a slide? I don't

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Speaker 2: know its tasks. I don't know. These defenders are already

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Speaker 2: and now you're faking sliding TV sides. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were talking about maybe everybody in

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Speaker 4: the snow. They're doing their Josh Allen just.

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Speaker 5: Did a little jig. Did he get off of me?

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Speaker 3: That I turned the game off when they didn't show

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Speaker 3: Coach Wade aka the Dragon Slayer playing the national anthem

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Speaker 3: on the trumpet. What the fuck are you doing, CBS?

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Speaker 3: I waited all week for Coach Wade to play the trumpet.

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Speaker 5: Wade Phillips. Phillips, who's Coach Wade?

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Speaker 3: You guys were a share survivor legend.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that was like ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Still he learned how to play the trumpet. He's a

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Speaker 3: good trumpeter, a trump I wouldn't know. They didn't show

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Speaker 5: Yeah, trumpet's underrated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill's moving on. I guess the Bucks beat the

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Speaker 3: Eagles too, right, they were calling it the Eagles were

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Speaker 3: ten and one. Everyone's like they're not good frauds.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: Jason Kelsey is retired.

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Speaker 3: I saw the very emotional.

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Speaker 5: Some have said he looks like j D.

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Speaker 3: I think he looks like he looks like and people

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Speaker 3: have made this comparison. I saw it on Twitter. This

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Speaker 3: It's not Frosty, it's the it's like the narrator Snowman.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the games. Draymond Green, he returned. We

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Speaker 3: when though, they lose to the Grizzlies with some crazy

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Speaker 3: But they gave up a million three pointers test, they

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Speaker 5: Yes, this is just sad. Other than G. G.

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Speaker 4: far as the Warriors go. Again, this was not defense.

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Speaker 3: He was calling out his team too after the game.

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Speaker 3: Draymond quote, you have to pride in yourself as a

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Speaker 3: There's just no pride. He went on to say, individuals

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Speaker 2: I can't do it all, guys.

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Speaker 2: Vince Williams and Gg Jackson. I think they're like a

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Speaker 2: Everybody was getting beat off the dribble. The point of attack.

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Speaker 3: GG Jackson born December seventeenth, two thousand and four guys,

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Speaker 3: we started podcasting this very pod. We started about a

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Speaker 2: John Dropper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just so happy to be talking to Shack.

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Speaker 3: But if you're, you know, doing fantasy basketball, somebody should

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Speaker 2: Minor silver lining there. For the Grizzlies, I think is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a giggler too. He was just so happy.

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Speaker 4: I say, kid, it was cool that he remembered Shack

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Speaker 4: because he was born in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 5: He didn't see Shack's hey day unless you know he has.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I loved you on the Celtics man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was being shook as a baby as he

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Speaker 4: I will say.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't a month after he was born. It was

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Speaker 5: thirteen months. What do you mean when we started?

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Speaker 3: Ooh oh, right.

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Speaker 4: Because I had to do that, because I had to

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. What I win there from Memphis? Bad loss

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Speaker 2: I guess right, he's got an MVP.

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Speaker 2: That's right. He definitely cared about winning the MVP last year,

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Speaker 2: Embiid has missed ten games in this stretch of sixteen,

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Speaker 2: But I'm also like he's coming back from not playing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's when they were mad about last March

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Speaker 2: I think they had their entire starting lineup listed this question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, trolling, Yeah, Oh yes, the Nuggets are saying, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It is strange seeing Embid miss all these games, and

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Speaker 5: But he's got to he's got to play in the

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Speaker 4: But I think it is good for him that he's

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Speaker 4: He just hasn't looked the same in the postseason. He's

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Speaker 4: when he lost to the Raptors when Kawhi went bounce pounds, pounce, pounce, pounce.

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Speaker 4: He played through it. But he just isn't the same guy,

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Speaker 4: He's just not the same guy to put it all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks bigger to me, with his hair getting

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Speaker 3: more intimidating. But man, this guy's averaging thirty four point

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Speaker 3: but that's twenty eight games played. He's like scoring thirty

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Speaker 3: feels so easy. Like you said, Trey, just like, what

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Speaker 4: surprised he did. He was talking about Jokic in that

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Speaker 3: So Draymond's back, Joell Embid's back, and Jimmy Butler returned.

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Speaker 3: He scored thirty one as the Heat beat the Nets

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler again pretty good down stretch. But Tyler herro

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Speaker 2: Win, Yeah, I thought Tyler hero was the man that

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Speaker 2: made it happen. For the Heat as well. I thought

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Speaker 2: all of those were massive shots. They were so timely.

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Speaker 2: I do love Jimmy Butler. He sat out for a

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Speaker 2: of guys come back from injury and it's like minutes

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's like, I'm just back in it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: thought off of Bam, out of Bio. Bam didn't have

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Speaker 2: we love to see that, but only eleven points on

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the I think a team hadn't won a

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Speaker 2: When the Heat did it against the Magic, they beat them,

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Speaker 2: and then they did this one less than a week later,

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Speaker 2: both teams first time in five years. Whoah, that's a

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Speaker 2: low number man ninety six to ninety five. But the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of the ones where you're not

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Speaker 3: the wild ending. It's entertaining at least, and you take

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Speaker 4: Yeah, minutes then going into overtime. That's all you need

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Speaker 5: That's truly it.

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Speaker 4: I like how far we've gone with statistics that yet

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Speaker 4: Horns have scored eighty two points this year. But now

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Speaker 4: we're getting into overtime numbers. I love the scrutiny. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's missed eleven of twelve games. He's saving

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Speaker 4: It's so interesting to watch what this team is going

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Speaker 4: are times he looks great.

435
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 3: He's I think he's had a really good season. Under

436
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Speaker 3: the radar, I think.

437
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:00,760
Speaker 5: A little bit.

438
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 4: I think he has had his best season as well.

439
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 4: It's finally starting. He started a couple of years ago

440
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 4: and they took him out and they figured, well, we'll

441
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 4: give this a shot with Gabe Vincent. But this has

442
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 4: been his best season, that's for sure. Other than him

443
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 4: saying that he's starting the Nicola Yovich fan group, that's

444
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 4: not I wasn't a good move because he hasn't been

445
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,959
Speaker 4: Nikola Jovich has. Yeah, he's the number one fan. Jovich

446
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 4: hasn't had a great season.

447
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 2: He's been playing pretty well lately.

448
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 5: Actually, I think has group started. I don't know, yeah exactly.

449
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 2: I did like seeing with Jimmy Butler back bam Outebayo

450
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: has started wearing a head band as well. So they're

451
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 2: three best players all wear headbands. It's been a while

452
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 2: since we've seen that. For me, the golden standard and

453
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: headbands is the early two thousands Trailblazers. That's what made

454
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: me started wearing headband in the first place. I wonder

455
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 2: if it'll have the same effect for young kids in Miami.

456
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 2: Tyler Herro's got a head band, I'll throw one on

457
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: that makes his head look a lot floppier.

458
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 4: I can see as a playoff move. We're the head

459
00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 4: band team.

460
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 2: Head band team brings us together.

461
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 3: Get everybody that stands where I head bands. Yeah, you

462
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 3: can really run with that.

463
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 2: It's true Timely Tyler with the hero head band. What

464
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: about Jacque Vaughan. I saw a lot of nets. Fans

465
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 2: were pretty upset with Jacques Vaughan last night late. I

466
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: think it's Jimmy is driving to the hoop. Dennis Smith

467
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: Junior goes for a strip. Questionable call. Yes it could

468
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: have been challenged, but there's like eleven seconds left, so

469
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 2: Vaughan decided not to use his challenge because then he

470
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: would have his time out to call a play. Did

471
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 2: not call a time out, did not call a play,

472
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 2: did not get a good shot from Michale Bridges rushing

473
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: it up the court. And then postgame, jacqu Vaughn said,

474
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't have drawn up anything better anyways.

475
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: That's not usually what you want to say.

476
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Speaker 2: I guess. Weird answer, very weird answer, man.

477
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 4: I guess it's one of those plays where you don't

478
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 4: call time out you get a decent shot.

479
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 5: But they did.

480
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 4: He missed and it was a good shot. Unfortunately.

481
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: It's more that I think you go back to like

482
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: Ny they were asking he was Denison juniors like I, well,

483
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 3: you should challenge that one. That one's gonna be tight.

484
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: It should have been one or the other. Either challenge, Yeah,

485
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 2: and say either challenge it and maybe you get the

486
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: foul call reversed then you have the ball, or don't

487
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 2: challenge it and call a time out and actually get

488
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: a good shot. Run a play.

489
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, also challenge it and while they're taking two minutes

490
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: to look at it, you can call you can run

491
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: up a play.

492
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

493
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: You're allowed to talk to your team when that's all

494
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: going on. So, yeah, that was strange.

495
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 4: It's a strange team as well, because cal Bridge is

496
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: firing away Cam Johnson or camp Thomas. I should say

497
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 4: not Cam Johnson. Cam Johnson struggled a little bit this season.

498
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't.

499
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: He hasn't been talking about a long Cam Thomas coming

500
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: off the bench and he's the shooter. So it's a

501
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: strange start after the whole Ben Simmons thing happened. Tough

502
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: watch this team sometimes.

503
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: Seven other games on. Let's split him into the West

504
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 3: and East victories. In the West, Kyrie scored forty two.

505
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway Junior at forty one oh he was flirting

506
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: with fifty. MAVs rallied past the Pelicans one twenty five.

507
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: You had Lowry markinen An Sexton leading the streaking Jazz

508
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 3: past the banged up Pacers one thirty two, one oh

509
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: five straight victory for Utah and Lebron and ad led

510
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: the Lakers to a you know, a much needed one twelve,

511
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: one oh five win over ok C. Anything you want

512
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: to talk about from those Western Conference wins.

513
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 4: Well, I love the Utah Jas. This is three games

514
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 4: and four nights. They scored one hundred and forty five

515
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 4: points against the Raptors, beat the Lakers. Maybe they'd have

516
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: an off night. This team never has off nights. They

517
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: play so hard for Will Hardy, Colin Sexton and Chris

518
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: Donn are their starting backcourt, and they come through for

519
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: those guys. Kristin's been fourteen and five since he became

520
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: the starter as a as a Utah Jazz member. They

521
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 4: share the ball so well. They're a really really fun

522
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: watch period and Loarry Markan hopefully he's healthy. He's looked incredible.

523
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 4: So that's what I got from the Western Conference games.

524
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: Anything for you.

525
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 2: The marketing thing is pretty impressive. I saw Rick Carlisle

526
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: called him the closest thing he seen to Dirknavitsky, and

527
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle coached Dirk Naviski for a long time. Through

528
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: December and January, Markin is averaging twenty four a game,

529
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: nine rebounds, two and a half assists, shooting fifty one

530
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: from the field, one from three, and ninety from the

531
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: free throw line. That's really good. That's seventeen games worth

532
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: of really good and the Jazz are winning. He's in

533
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: the All Star conversation once again. I think, man, we

534
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: talked about it yesterday. But Colin Sexton coming in the

535
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: starting lineup has been awesome alongside Market, and he just

536
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: fights so hard over screens and he just scraps harder

537
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: than basically anybody else on the Jazz and it raises

538
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: their compete level. And between the way he's playing and

539
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: the way Market is playing, they're a tough team to beat.

540
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yesterday, Lowry Markin and bam Adebayo named NBA Players

541
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 3: of the Week for what they did for their respective squads.

542
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: East Eastern Conference wins. Celtics won their eighth straight meeting

543
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: against the Raptors. Took care of business there. Donovan Mitchell

544
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 3: scored thirty four. Calves pulled away late to beat the

545
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: Bulls one oh nine ninety one. Trey Young started strong,

546
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: scored a lot of points in the first half, finished

547
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: with thirty six, but the Hawks held on to beat

548
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: the Spurs in a very weird game that I was

549
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: in attendance for down at the Fortress one nine ninety nine.

550
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: And then Alec Berks Alec Bicks comes off the bench

551
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: scores thirty four to lead the Pistons past the Wizards

552
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: in the nut Dust Bowl game Hard around the World

553
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: one nine seventeen. A huge win for you and your

554
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: Pistons trying to chase down me in Mazards, but they

555
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 3: could it done.

556
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: Yes, the loser has to suck nut dust as in

557
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: you know it sounds season for season actual food.

558
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it.

559
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, I love a season nut so

560
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: even if I lose, even if the Pistons have the

561
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: fewest leads, the fewest wins between the Wizards and the Hornets.

562
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm fine with it, but I think I will win.

563
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you're confident. You're saying right now, the Pistons will

564
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: not have the worst record in the league. That's a

565
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: nice it's a nice bold take.

566
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: Actually like it.

567
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 5: I think so, Okay, I could see it happening.

568
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: These other teams suck the team straight, suck man.

569
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: Jade and Ivy's playing basketball, So no more Jaden poison

570
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: Ivy for Monty Williams. They're just playing him.

571
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: Jade.

572
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 4: Ivy's a talented guy. And yeah, and Kate Counningham also

573
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 4: did not play in this game. He still needs to come.

574
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, I buy it.

575
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 5: I buy it. Yeah, the Wizards are just the Wizards.

576
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Anything from you here TK on those East Winds, Well,

577
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell, I'd like to bestow the title of certified

578
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: Bulls killer on this guy. Only his second year in

579
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, he's played against the Bulls five times.

580
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: Last night, he had thirty four points and seven assists.

581
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: In his other four games against Chicago twenty nine, ten,

582
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: and six, he had the seventy one eight and eleven

583
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: those against the fraudulent though fraudulent though went into overtime

584
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: on some lane violations.

585
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: I didn't forget, nor did the last two minute report.

586
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: Fifteen six and three Bulls shut him down. Lost that

587
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: game and then thirty two to nine to eight. In

588
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: their first meeting last night, it was the same. Mitchell

589
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: was in takeover mode. The only time they really slowed

590
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 2: him down was in the third quarter where basically they

591
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: told Io Desumu just guard him ninety four feet and

592
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: we'll play four on four over here. It worked, but

593
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: then Io reaggravated his shoulder muscle shoulder injury and he

594
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: couldn't play in the fourth quarter, and then Mitchell got

595
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: hot again. Also, the Cats hit twenty threes last night.

596
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: That has been their strategy since Evan Mobley and Darius

597
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: Garland went out of the lineup, chuck up threes and

598
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: get offensive rebounds. Before Mobley and Garland when they were

599
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: still playing thirteen and twelve, the calves were They took

600
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: thirty three threes a game. They shot thirty five percent.

601
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: It was thirty eight percent of their shots. Not great,

602
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, it was fine. Since then they're ten and three,

603
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: they take forty four threes per game. They're shooting thirty

604
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: six percent and it's forty eight percent of their shots

605
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: plus the offensive rebound a lot more right now. That

606
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: was an one hundred and eleven offensive rating when Mobley

607
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: and Garland were in the lineup. Now they're a one

608
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty. This is a good offensive team right

609
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: now because there's so much space for Mitchell to operate.

610
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: They're putting shooters out there. It's Mitchell, three shooters and

611
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: then a dude who can grab offensive rebounds. It's either

612
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: going to be Jared Allen or Tristan Thompson, who said,

613
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why I was wearing number twelve when

614
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: I came back to the Cavs. The guy was number

615
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: thirteen through the title years war number twelve when he

616
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: came back this year and switched to thirteen last night.

617
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: Weird stuff, but it's working for the Caves. Shoot threes,

618
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: get offensive rebounds. When you're under manned, that's a good

619
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: way to generate X for possessions and flip the math

620
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: in your favor. Yeah.

621
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: I love the way this team has looked since Darius

622
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: Garland's gone down their ten and three, So I'm seriously

623
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: intrigued when Garland and mobiley come back as to how

624
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: they look offensively, because it is Donovan Mitchell feeling great

625
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: and having guys as far away as from the rim

626
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 4: as possible, like Dean Wade is starting for Evan Mobley

627
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: and took ten threes last night just to provide some space.

628
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: Something that Evan Mobley hasn't evolved in his game the

629
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 4: three point shots. So what they do and how they

630
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: look with Donovan mitchells as clearly the number one offensive

631
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: guy and then it's you know, everybody else below him

632
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 4: is It's gonna be interesting when when Garland and mobile

633
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: just to see how much cohesiveness they have, because it's

634
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: going to be a different team when those two guys

635
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: are out there offensively.

636
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: And I'll just touch quickly on the Hawkspurs game, which

637
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: was so weird. I don't know if you guys caught

638
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: any of it, but at halftime, Lemon Yama had zero

639
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: points and then he didn't start the second half, and

640
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: we're thinking, sitting there watching the game, We're like, are

641
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: we going to the only game possibly in Wemben Yama's

642
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: career where he doesn't score any points at all? Were

643
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: like that'll be a weird little quirk. No, instead, he

644
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: has twenty six in the end. As the Spurs got

645
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: back in this game. I mean there was a part

646
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: where they somebody botched a layup with a ton of

647
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: time left that would have cut it to like four

648
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: points or something like that. So they came all the

649
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: way back after trailing by thirty plus at the half,

650
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: and web Minyama I had to check. I couldn't believe it.

651
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: I knew he had a lot of dunks in watching

652
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: it live in nine dunks in the second half, the

653
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: Spurs just decided maybe we should go to him. There's

654
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: no one that can stop him on on the Hawks,

655
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: and they just kept throwing them oops or you know,

656
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: he would get the ball and just take his one

657
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: huge stride and then dunk it. So good game, good

658
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: second half from him. But Trey Young was awesome in

659
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: the first half and they built up a big enough

660
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: lead to hold on in the end. It wasn't inspiring victory,

661
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: I would say, giving up all of that hugely that

662
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: they had built, but got it done in the end.

663
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Hawks bigs don't stop a lot of people,

664
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: so Wemby could just go uh it wasn't disappointed with

665
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: that game. Wasn't disappointed with the Raptors game. This may

666
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: sound a little sick, but I just love watching the

667
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: Raptors be a five hundred team. Frankly, that's what it

668
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: sort of looks like. But they share the ball. Dark

669
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: O Rakovich says, let's share that thing, and they drive

670
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 4: and they kick, and they drive and the kick. They

671
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: just couldn't hit threes last night at all. The Celtics

672
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: hit sixteen. The Raptors hit four chunkers, and they only

673
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: had seven turnovers as they shared the ball over and

674
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: over and over again. The three point discrepancy was just bad.

675
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: They didn't have one three pointer in the second half,

676
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: So that's what it was. It just couldn't hit shots.

677
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: But it was a fun watch watching them battle the Celtics.

678
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, the Celtics can hit threes.

679
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: And a little bit of news here back to when

680
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: Minyama Shum's yesterday said that whmen Yama plans to participate

681
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: in the All Star Skills Challenge Overall Star weekend on

682
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: Saturday night. There, what do you think of this? A

683
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: good idea by Wemby in the league to get them

684
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: in something here you'll be intrigued to see him or

685
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: you don't care at all because maybe it's a skills challenge.

686
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: What's your takeaway?

687
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: Didn't they do teams last year?

688
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: They did?

689
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: I had to check. I was like, what did they do?

690
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: I remember Walker Kessler hitting a three from the corner.

691
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: It was then his first shot after the All Star

692
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: break was a three from the corner, which he also made.

693
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: Team Jazz versus Team and Popo. So all of the brothers,

694
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: they had a team and then Team Rookies. It was

695
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: like Ivy, Benkaro and Jabari I want to say, Ja

696
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: Berry Smith Junior I think was the team. And they

697
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: did the three rounds right, they do like a relay round,

698
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: a passing round, and a shooting round. So anyway, when

699
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: Minyama is gonna be in here now, will he be

700
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: a part of Team Rookies? Will he be a part

701
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: of Well, the Spurs have a team.

702
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

703
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 3: Somebody said Kelly Eco said they should have an all

704
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: French team with Web Minyama versus whatever the other two

705
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: teams are. It's right, get Fournier plan. If that's if

706
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: they even keep this the same format. I feel like

707
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: this thing changes every two years. I can't keep up

708
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: on the Skills Challenge. But anyway, smart move to get

709
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: him in here, and absolutely people are gonna want to

710
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: see what you can do.

711
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna play in France next January, that's for sure.

712
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: Hasn't been announced, but that's gonna happen yet. It's get

713
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: them involved. But they got to change this team thing.

714
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: It's just not as fun like have individuals. They're changing

715
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: the All Star Game. They're going forward East West, Yeah,

716
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: going back.

717
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: Then they're gonna go back to guys just being able

719
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: to show their skills instead of this.

720
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Speaker 3: You don't like this team. I mean, I'm not saying

721
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: I did, but yeah, they had like little windmills going,

722
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: they had to shoot over you know, yeah, all the

723
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: fun passing things.

724
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: It's yeah, they just didn't seem as into it.

725
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: I think.

726
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: So maybe individuals will be more involved.

727
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: Oh you want to go back to individuals.

728
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well see I'm glad he's doing something. Yeah yeah,

729
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: because otherwise it would just be like rookie sophomore game probably.

730
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: So that's cool. But Skills Challenge never good. Yeah, not

731
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: bad though, it's never bad.

732
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: It's just there.

733
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: It's perfect it's perfect to walk into the arena too,

734
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: or to turn on a few minutes late and see

735
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 2: the final.

736
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: It's just as it's literally just an appetizer just for

737
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: the three point shootout in the dunk contest.

738
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: It's bread with some oil and parmesan on.

739
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: The table if that. Honestly, it might just be just bread.

740
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: I think it's just some nut dust, not even nuts.

741
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: It's not good, guys, but it is what it is.

742
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: We want Shooting Stars back.

743
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's still bad, but it's more entertaining.

744
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: It's way more entertaining. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. They

745
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: need three events to sell, that's what That's why they

746
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: have the Skills Challenge, just to have long or two

747
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: hours worth of fun, of worth of ads to sell.

748
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: But shoot, his challenge has been good since c Bosh

749
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: was killed, since Chris Bosh was killing.

750
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, get it back, wehm.

751
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: We should do the whole Damian Lillard thing where Lillard

752
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: went in every event that one yearby and everything. Put

753
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: him in the three point contest, put him in the

754
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: dunk contest, just like see what it looks like. People

755
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: could try and jump over him in the dunk contest.

756
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: Three pointer would be hilarious just seeing a guy his

757
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: size shoot it up. Get him in there. Maybe he will. Alright,

758
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: I got to take a break and then when we

759
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: come back, we'll get into some trade slop. Don't go anywhere,

760
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: all right? Hit that like button, make sure you subscribe,

761
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Speaker 3: leave your boys a five star rating and review. Yesterday

762
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: we reached January fifteenth on the NBA calendar, which opened

763
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Speaker 3: up a large number of players to be traded who

764
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: re signed with their previous teams last offseason. We're talking

765
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: like D'Angelo Russell, Jeremy Grant, Kyle Kuzma, Ruey Hachimura, a

766
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: bunch of other players. Basically every player in the league

767
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 3: is now trade eligible, almost a few exceptions. Because of this,

768
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: the Athletics Sam Vessini dropped his NBA Trade Board column,

769
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: ranking an evolving list of the top names on the market.

770
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Sam played it fairly conservative in adding names to his

771
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: new list, but the pool did expand from twenty five

772
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: players on his initial board to now thirty five. Now

773
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: we're not going to go through all thirty five. We

774
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: want to look at the top and maybe debate where

775
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: they would be good fits, or maybe you even have

776
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: trade ideas at the top of Sam's list on the

777
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: NBA trade Board, it's Pascal Siakam with the Raptors. Bunch

778
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: of teams that make some sense or been rumored to him,

779
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: the Warriors, the Pacers, the Kings, the Heat, the Nets,

780
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: the Mavericks. Sam wrote this, this is a simple case

781
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: of two parties having different incentives. It's understandable for Toronto

782
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: to be reluctant to give Siakam a four year max

783
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: given he turns thirty in April and doesn't fit the

784
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: team's age timeline. And then he went on to say

785
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: it's equally understandable for Siakam to view this as his

786
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 3: last chance to cash in with a star level salary.

787
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: There'll be plenty of teams with the ability to give

788
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: him a contract along those lines in free agency this summer.

789
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: A team maybe like the Pistons, would have a ton

790
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: of money, especially after the moves that they're making here.

791
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: So we've talked about him a lot here over the

792
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: coming last couple of weeks. We're going to continue to

793
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: talk about on this idea of like where should he

794
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: be traded, Should he be traded, what type of returne

795
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: he gets? Do you have any new thoughts or any

796
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: new trade ideas for the Raptors to move. SOAKA thought.

797
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: I think the Golden State Warriors are at a point

798
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: where they need to trade for a large wing, not

799
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: just the tiny wing, a big wing who can defend,

800
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: and so they are probably willing to give up everything

801
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 4: that they can.

802
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: But what is it.

803
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: Are the Raptors gonna love it all? So are they're

804
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: gonna Are they gonna enjoy that package? Are they gonna

805
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: say this is less paddled palatable than a skills Challenge

806
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: game with the All Star Game?

807
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: Are they gonna get enough?

808
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so the deal has to be Look, it can

809
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: only be really a hypothetical Warriors Raptors deal for Sacam.

810
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: It either needs to be Wiggins. I cannot really imagine

811
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: the Raptors.

812
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 5: Being that would work financially. But yes, yeah, I agree.

813
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: So it's that or it's Chris Paul right and his

814
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: fat contracts.

815
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: And a nice juicy first round pick that's got to

816
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: come by.

817
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: And then Kaminga and or Moody. That's the I mean, Look,

818
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: if they're the Raptors are trading Sacam, you have to

819
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: assume they're hoping for one young prospect and maybe a pick. Yeah,

820
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: maybe they can't get that because of the contract situation

821
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: that teams are saying, hey, we're not confident he'll sign

822
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: with us, so we don't want to give up a

823
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: whole lot. But I'm starting from that point that that's

824
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: what I would think massa Uxurie and Bobby Webster want.

825
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: So does that intrigue you at all, Chris Paul, let's

826
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: say Kaminga and listen.

827
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: I want Pascal to stay with the Raptors forever, and

828
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance of that. However, I think

829
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: it is good for the teams that are selling that

830
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: they're just there aren't that many guys out there, and

831
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: so so that.

832
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: The like the package.

833
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: The package will be pretty decent.

834
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

835
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 4: I imagine that Messiah's taking calls, that's for sure.

836
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, He's definitely going to be taken calls because

837
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Siakam is the biggest difference maker here. But the way

838
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: his contract is, it's basically he's got a no trade

839
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: clause unless sort of some team wants to roll the dice,

840
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: like you've heard the Pacers have been. I've seen rumors

841
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: that the Pacers would still do the deal, not knowing

842
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: if Siakam would sign with them as long as they

843
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: don't have to like throw in Jaris Walker or a

844
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: first round pick, of course. Yeah, exactly. They don't want

845
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: to trade their young guys if they're not going to

846
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: be able to keep the old guy they're trading for,

847
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: which totally makes sense. That's why teams like the Warriors

848
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: and the Mavericks make more sense as destinations for me,

849
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: because I think that either of those teams would probably

850
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 2: have a good chance of resigning Siakam, and therefore they're

851
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: more likely to put a better prospect or a first

852
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: round pick into the deal, which surely is something that

853
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: would interest Ujeri.

854
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the most realist, realistic I should say,

855
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: trade package that the Raptors are maybe happy with if

856
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: you are moving off Siakam, and then the team we're

857
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: getting Siakam are confident in resigning them, and what they're

858
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: giving up to get them is the Mavericks. I think

859
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: a package of Tim Hardaway, Junior Rashaun Holmes, Josh Green

860
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: as like the key young prospect, and then maybe omax

861
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: prosper you know Canadian that was drafted. I haven't seen

862
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: a lot obviously in the league. And then either a

863
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: protective first round pick or not for Siakam. I think

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00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: there's something there, and I think Dallas would potentially do

865
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: that move if they believe and feel very confident that

866
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Siakam is there for the long run and would sign.

867
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: And then you have Lucas Siakam and Kyrie As you're

868
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: sort of big three. What do you think about that one?

869
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: From either side?

870
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: I like the Omas inclusion. I love that hot Yeah,

871
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: I just as I sort of said, the teams that

872
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: are willing to go buy in would probably get the

873
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: probably not have to give up enough for Pascal Siakam

874
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: just because they don't know what the hell. They may

875
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: just beg in Pascal Siakam for four months here, so

876
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: how much they give up.

877
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 5: Is a question.

878
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 4: I know the Warriors, Pacers, Kings, heat Nets, and Mas

879
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: are listed. You always got to look for one of

880
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: those teams that isn't listed. And I'm totally intrigued by

881
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia seventy six ers and what they do after

882
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: they traded James Harden four picks and what Daryl Morey

883
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: wants to do here as Joel Embiid goes into his

884
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: free agency, I just or it goes into his his

885
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: postseason after winging MVP. I just want to know if

886
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: they're going to do it now, or they're going to

887
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 4: do it when free agency shows up, because Morey's got

888
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: picks to give up. Maybe it's, you know, reunite the

889
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: Cameroonians of Pascal Siakam and Joel Embiid, or maybe it's

890
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: go for Dejonte Murray. But the Sixers I think are quiet.

891
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: They're quietly doing something back there.

892
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: Let's go to Dejonta Murray, number two on Sam's list.

893
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Teams interested, Lakers, Warriors, Heat, Nets, Knicks, Magic, Pelicans, no

894
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: one intrigued me quoting Sam here. The Hawks clearly want

895
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: to make some changes, and moving to Jonte represents the

896
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: most substantive one that they can make. This season. The

897
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: backcourt combination of Trey Young and Murray has not worked

898
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: as well as the Hawks expected when they traded three

899
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 3: first round picks in a pick swamp to acquire Murray

900
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: from San Antonio. He's shooting the ball well to Jontay Murray.

901
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: He's having actually a decent season, but it's not translating

902
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: to wins or any sort of defensive success for the Hawks.

903
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: Shooting nearly thirty nine percent from three on six attempts

904
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: per game. That's pretty good. But he signed that four year,

905
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: one hundred and fourteen million dollars contract extension. It's got

906
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: a player option in twenty seven. But unlike Seakam Trey,

907
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: he's under contract and not that crazy a deal. Once

908
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: as this cap goes up and up and up, do

909
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: you see a fit? Do you see the Hawks making

910
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: this move? I know we talked yesterday about should it

911
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: be Tree Young that they look to deal. We don't

912
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: think it'll be that. What's your takeaway?

913
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I don't know.

914
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: I think Murray's in a good spot to be traded

915
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: because contract wise, it kind of makes the most sense

916
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: for other teams. You've got on one endam expiring deal

917
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: is gonna want a Max in the summer. At the

918
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: number three slot on Sam's board is Zach Lavine signed

919
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: to a huge deal, And then we've got to Jontey

920
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: Murray slotted right in the middle. He is signed to

921
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: a deal. It's not too crazy. But I heard on

922
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: the Hoop Collective podcast that if he's traded, it's the

923
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: biggest trade kicker in NBA history. I heard that thirteen

924
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: million dollars, which the Hawks pay, but then the money

925
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: goes onto the books on Murray's contract, so like something.

926
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: Next year he's at twenty five five million, it would

927
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: be twenty seven million basically or something like that. So

928
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: it does bump off.

929
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: He could wave a little brect I mean, not that

930
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: he would.

931
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: You think he's gonna wave a thirteen million dollars.

932
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: But maybe he lost a guy Brouy. Well, maybe you'll

933
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: go play with Lebron and they'll say, don't worry, we'll

934
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: get you the money back here.

935
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Man, that's a good point. He could get in Space

936
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: Jam three, I suppose, But I do think Murray will

937
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: be moved. But pretty weird if Dejonte Murray gets traded

938
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: before his extension kicks in and before the Hawks start

939
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: repaying all of the draft capital that they traded to

940
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: the Spurs. But it feels like the Hawks are gonna

941
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: do something to shake things up, and Murray seems likely

942
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: to be traded.

943
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: The team's Lakers were his heat nets next Magic. I

944
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: don't see the Warriors wanting another guard. It doesn't really

945
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: make sense to me.

946
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: They got to get bigger.

947
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: The team that's not there, it's the Philadelphia seventy six weeks.

948
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm interested. I'm interested. Didn't to see what Daryl Morien

949
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: is thinking back there? Does he want to go for

950
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: it right here, right now instead of waiting for.

951
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 3: The Sixers trading though, I mean Tobias Harris. Yeah, well,

952
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: well to the Hawks.

953
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: To the Hawks, they say, hey, you need somebody beside

954
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Trey Young like Quinn Snyder had in Utah, Like somebody

955
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: who just guards and hits threes. You're seeing what Donovan

956
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: Mitchell is doing in Cleveland. You just have guys beside

957
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: the hit threes. So d Anthony Melton, it's not a

958
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: sexy name, however, he's sold very solid, and that's all

959
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: you want. Royce O'Neill was playing beside Donovan Mitchell in Utah.

960
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: They were a good defensive team. Because Donovan Mitchell was

961
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: playing beside Royce O'Neil. He was willing to give up

962
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: his body for that end. And d Anthony Melton could

963
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: be that guy. So d Anthony Melton, Robert Covington and

964
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: potentially a first round pick, whether it's protected or not.

965
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: That's what Darryl Mory just traded for when he dealt

966
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 4: James Harden. There are there are lots of picks there

967
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: to be dealt.

968
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: The Hawks have to get back some draft capital. If

969
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: they do move Murdy, it would have to be they

970
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: traded for good luck with that, but at least some

971
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: of it.

972
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it would look horrendous if they don't get

973
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: a draft pick back and they were willing to give

974
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 4: up three plus a pick swap for de Jontay Murray.

975
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: It feels like not that long ago. But it doesn't

976
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: feel like they're training Trey Young.

977
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: Why should they.

978
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: They got the heart, He's their heart. So I think

979
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: it's going to be de Jontay Murray and that they

980
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: just need they need to change what this team looks

981
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: like defensively. So yeah, there's there's that, there's a the

982
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: potential Knicks to have him as the shot shooting, starting

983
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: shooting guard besides, instead of Dantavid Devincenzo. I guess that

984
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: sort of makes sense.

985
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: That's a little hawksy to me. Yeah, yeah, a small

986
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: dude in Brunson and then Murray alongside.

987
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 3: A little bit. I mean even even the going to

988
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 3: to Philadelphia. It depends what it was for, of course,

989
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: but like again, I mean, Maxi's the guard that has

990
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: the ball. Is that going to be similar, Like, are

991
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: we learning that Dejonte has to be the lead guard?

992
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: Like is he better suited to be the lead point

993
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: guard and not sort of this off ball guy, yep? Maybe?

994
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: Or is it just just a case of playing with

995
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Trey Young is sort of wild and and it will

996
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: never fit. I don't know.

997
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: Maybe that's what Pop wanted to give up on it

998
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: because he was a really good player for the Spurs. Yeah,

999
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: he was their number one player and they said, nah,

1000
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: so thanks, It's very true.

1001
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: Let's go to Zach Lavine. He's stirred on the list,

1002
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: Sam's list, Lakers, Piston's magic nets sort of, you know,

1003
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: rumor teams fits that. You can maybe talk yourself into

1004
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: quoting Sam here regardless of what you may hear. Zack

1005
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: Lavine is a good player who has averaged twenty five

1006
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: point five points per game on strong shooting splits over

1007
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: the last four years. I saw a guy TK sharing

1008
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: that than Sam. Yeah, you were thanking. You said a

1009
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: lot to talk about zach Lvine actually being a good player.

1010
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: He went on to say he's not a number one

1011
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: option on a playoff team despite being paid like one.

1012
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: But as the salary cap rises over the next three years,

1013
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: his deal should become more proportional of a solid number two.

1014
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of truth to that.

1015
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: So end quote there on Sam Zack Lavine. Now, this

1016
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: guy we've been talking to about even longer than Siakam

1017
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: and de Jonte Murray to some extent in terms of trade.

1018
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Not real but Murray, well, yeah, maybe not.

1019
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Anything new to add to that.

1020
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: I love him mentioning the shooting splits because I don't

1021
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: think people realize that in the last four years, Zach

1022
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Levine is scoring twenty five and a half per game,

1023
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: shooting forty eight from the field, thirty eight from three

1024
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: to eighty five at the line. People tell you Jojontey

1025
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: Murray's a better player than Zach Levine. He's having his

1026
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: career best season right now and it's Zach Levine's averages,

1027
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: except for Levine scores four more points a game since

1028
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: he came back from the foot injury, three games off

1029
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: the bench, a couple in the starting lineup. He is

1030
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: pretty clearly auditioning. I would say with the intensity he's

1031
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: bringing on the defensive end of the court, his willingness

1032
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: to get off the ball early. He's putting up huge

1033
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: rebounding numbers, basically what everybody wanted to see from Levine

1034
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: to be known as a winning player. It just hasn't

1035
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: happened yet. The problem is that he's got this gigantic

1036
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: contract that's seems to be coloring things more so than

1037
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: what Levine brings on the court. I saw Dan Woiki

1038
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 2: La times saying that people think he's good, but they're

1039
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: concerned about the contract and the injuries. He has had

1040
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: one major injury in like the past four seasons. So

1041
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: it's de Jontay Murray, but the contract is just so

1042
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: much bigger than Murray's that you probably could get Murray

1043
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: for cheaper and then you don't have to pay him

1044
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: quite as much. But Levine helps a team like the

1045
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: Lakers a lot more than I think de Jontay Murray

1046
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: would because Levine's a better outside shooter. Murray needs to

1047
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: have the ball. Levine can actually play off the ball,

1048
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: and the Lakers are a team that absolutely needs three

1049
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: point shooting. So every time I see a game with

1050
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: them when they're hitting seven or nine threes, I'm like

1051
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: call them up, call them up, ak and see what

1052
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: they want. Because Levine would be an upgrade on any

1053
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: of their perimeter guys right now, including Austin Reeves. It

1054
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: doesn't clearly the Lakers don't want to trade him. They're

1055
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: going to try and hold onto him as much as possible,

1056
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: but if they want to make something happen, they might

1057
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: have to come up off of Reeds.

1058
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on the Lakers, and I do

1059
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: think there're gonna be a lot of buyers here in

1060
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: the next three weeks.

1061
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 5: But I think it helps.

1062
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: Zach Levine's case that he has such a huge contract

1063
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: that it kind of takes down the price a little bit.

1064
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: Even despite having there's many buyers out there. There's many

1065
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: teams that think we want to win the championship. We

1066
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: can go for it, whether it be the West or

1067
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 4: the East. And I think when you acquire zach Lavine,

1068
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: you're looking post Lebron's years and you're gonna have him

1069
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: on the roster alongside Anthony Davis that I think they

1070
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: want a trade for something like that where it's not

1071
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: just this year and it's not just next year. They

1072
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: have somebody long term and zach Lavine can play off

1073
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: Lebron off the ball and just hang out and play

1074
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: extremely well. He is definitely a good player to play

1075
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: off the ball, and I think he would be extremely

1076
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: happy to be in La close to Seattle where he

1077
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: had his batting practice and stuff where.

1078
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: He comes from.

1079
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 4: Like he's he's going to be wanted there. And again,

1080
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: there's been so many guards that have played really well

1081
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 4: with Lebron in playoffs where they just have to pass

1082
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: him the ball. Now they probably want to see what

1083
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: Gabe Vincent can do and that kind of thing. I

1084
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: don't know if Rob Polinka is gonna be willing to

1085
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 4: give up picks for the.

1086
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: Talk is that he doesn't and he's tired of doing

1087
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: that and wants to hold on to that. I guess

1088
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: what is it, twenty twenty nine pick. That's what you

1089
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: keep saying, these rumors that no, Lebron, we're not doing

1090
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 3: that anymore.

1091
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: Hey, Zach Lylevian's gonna be playing there for a long time.

1092
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: And I think he's fought through all these injuries and

1093
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: he's he looks pretty good.

1094
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does make a lot of money. It's forty

1095
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: million this year, it goes up to forty three, then

1096
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 3: it goes up to forty six, and then he's gonna

1097
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: player option in twenty six twenty seven. That's you know,

1098
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: knocking on fifty million. You know these numbers start to

1099
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: get astronomically. Yeah, that and that's exactly what Sam wrote. Okay,

1100
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 3: so those are the top three guys. We'll continue to

1101
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: talk to.

1102
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: It feel like it's a blessing for us though as

1103
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: a podcast. Six of the top seven on Sam's uh

1104
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: big board here are Bulls, Raptors, and Hawks. And I

1105
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: know there is no other podcast that watches these teams

1106
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: as often as it's true. I can guarantee that is

1107
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: the case.

1108
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: It's true. We have the intel of these guys. They're

1109
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: pros and cons to their game, no doubt. Well, is

1110
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: there any other intriguing rumored names on this entire list?

1111
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean, again, we focused on the top but anyone

1112
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: else on Sam's list that you're just intrigued that could

1113
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: be an interesting you know, Trey Piece or a team

1114
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: could really use player X. Who do you have?

1115
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: Well?

1116
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 4: I think the Portland Travelers is that we talked about

1117
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 4: yesterday as this team that is sort of it's kind

1118
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: of like the Warriors and that they've got the divide

1119
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 4: Are we going old?

1120
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: Are we going young?

1121
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: And the Warriors, you know they picked Wiseman and they've

1122
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: kind of gone back to the old ways. I think

1123
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: the Blazers are sort of there with DeAndre Ayton and

1124
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: Malcolm Brogden and Robert Williams the third. That's a lot

1125
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: of old guys for the team that's second last in

1126
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: the Western Conference. So any of those guys that I

1127
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: just mentioned are probably they're kibbel, they're kibble for teams

1128
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: that want to win. They're looking at those guys Malcolm

1129
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 4: Brogden on our team. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. So

1130
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 4: I think that the Blazers entirely Coronamite, may just change

1131
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: it up and just go young again.

1132
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean Robert Williams, unfortunately is probably done for the season. Yeah,

1133
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: so that's like looking forward things probably. I mean, he's

1134
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: a great player, but he just can't play ever. So

1135
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you on Brogden though, for sure. I think

1136
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: that to me, it's like a no brainer that will

1137
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: be moved. That's a forgotten dude, I know. And he's

1138
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: still I mean, you know, he's on the right team.

1139
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: Come playoff time, we'll be talking about him. But do

1140
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: you have anyone else on this list?

1141
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: From I actually would like to see the magic go

1142
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: after Brogden. I think they really really need a guard,

1143
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: and he can shoot threes and he can handle the ball.

1144
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: That would be a nice ad for them. I also

1145
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: love Terry Rozier nineteen on Sam's list here. His value

1146
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: is unclear. Nobody really knows what it would take to

1147
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: get Terry Rozier, but he's on a heater right now.

1148
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: At the absolute worst, he could be like a sixth

1149
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: man microwave score off the bench. Some teams, like I mean,

1150
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: the Magic could start him. I know he Sam says

1151
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: he's a Teams like the Lakers and the seventy six

1152
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: ers could be interested. They just want additional three point shooting,

1153
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: additional ball handling. I could see him working there. Seems

1154
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: like a guy who could be had for pretty cheap,

1155
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: whether it be a prospect, maybe expiring contracts, maybe a

1156
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: protected first round pick or something like that. So for

1157
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: a good value deal, I think Terry Rozier is somebody

1158
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: that should be targeted.

1159
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: And it's not like with Terry Rozier, if you make

1160
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: a move for him, it's not like, oh, he's a

1161
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: free agent in three months, four months, he's under contract,

1162
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: and it's like a respectable you know, twenty three twenty

1163
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: four million type deal for the next couple of years. Here,

1164
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: there's no option I believe, either team or player at

1165
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: the end of it. So yeah, he is Ah, He's

1166
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: a good play him on. It'd be fun to see him,

1167
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: honestly on a good team again, you know, like one

1168
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: of these teams that have plans to go far in

1169
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I'd love to see him as a yeah,

1170
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: a potential starter or more likely even a guy coming

1171
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: off the bench and winning you a quarter or a

1172
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: half in a in a playoff series. Absolutely could see that.

1173
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: Gordon Hayward we talked about too. I guess last week

1174
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: threw him in there. I assume he can be had

1175
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: from the Hornets. Yeah, and you know when he plays,

1176
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 3: still contributes, I guess a little bit.

1177
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Rosier is literally balling when he's out there.

1178
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 4: He can just take over. A microwave is a good

1179
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: word for him, because he can just take over and

1180
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: get super hot. Offer a spaghetti sandwich for him because

1181
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: we used to have him. We made a spaghetti sandwich

1182
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: with him on the basketball.

1183
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: With Ranch stressing, wasn't it. Oh yeah, yeah, and he

1184
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: ate it.

1185
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: We tried it.

1186
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't as bad as I thought it could be worse.

1187
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: I thought it was horrible, But I can see why

1188
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: this is not that bad. In a pinch, little Spaghettian

1189
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: ranch on white bread was not all it was. Am

1190
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: I missing there's sugar? Yeah, the sugar.

1191
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, thank you for reminding you. That was tough.

1192
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: That was tough on the teeth were literally chewing granular sugar.

1193
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 6: Well, that got the biggest pop in the truck was

1194
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 6: when the sugar went on.

1195
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, But but the Orlando Magic grabbing him is

1196
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: is a good idea. That's that's a great idea. It's Disney.

1197
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: Maybe there's some weird restaurant that makes that Spaghetta. But

1198
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: watching watching the Magic play and they obviously are missing

1199
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: Franz Wagner and how they missed that guy. But they

1200
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: have so many guards in that rotation of Cole, Anthony

1201
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: and Markel falls through a jam last night and they're

1202
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: seeing what Anthony Black can do. But this guy is

1203
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 4: extremely solid and they need somebody who's done it before.

1204
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: This guy was with Boston.

1205
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: He's played in actually a lot of playoff games. Yea,

1206
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 3: who could forget?

1207
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: Yes?

1208
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: Wow, great call. It's so funny, like at this time

1209
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: of the season, it's all these teams and nobody watches

1210
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 3: nobody's watching Hornets games. You know, nobody's watching some of

1211
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: these other teams. But like, like the Blazers, right, you

1212
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: brought up Brogden. It's like, get Brogden on a good team,

1213
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: get Rosier on a good team, and you know everybody'd

1214
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: be like, whoa, this guy's good. He's like, oh, yeah,

1215
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: they actually are. Just they played these teams that just

1216
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: like nobody cares about it because of their record. But uh,

1217
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: some little slop here from Mark Stein, some steinslop. The

1218
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: Pacers have been building trade offers around a package of

1219
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Buddy Healed, who's in the final season of his current

1220
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: contract at eighteen point six million, and a future first

1221
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: round pick. Yet it's believed that the Pacers, while undeniably active,

1222
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: are reluctant to part with two of their most promising

1223
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: and pursued players, and we already mentioned them on this pod,

1224
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: Benedict Mathrin and then rookie Jaris Walker. Any thoughts here

1225
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: on a team that should be aggressive in trying to

1226
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: trade for for Buddy Heal and what do you think

1227
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: about the Pacers what they should do here at the deadline.

1228
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 5: They can give up on Buddy.

1229
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: I think they're obviously their timeline here is go younger,

1230
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: and Buddy is getting on in age. He's thirty one,

1231
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 4: so that would make sense what they're going to get

1232
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 4: back fro him. I don't know what would anybody be

1233
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: willing to give up for Buddy First, that's asking a

1234
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: decent I'm out. I mean, he's a good shooter obviously,

1235
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: but he's gone to their bench for a reason because

1236
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: of what they're trying to do, and you can't give

1237
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: out Ben Mathrin, I don't think you can possibly think

1238
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: about that if you're the Pacers.

1239
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: Do you think the Pacers would look at like Bugdanovich

1240
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: on the Hawks as a huge upgrade, you know.

1241
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Over Buddy Heel? Yeah, any similar.

1242
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, I know That's what I'm wondering. Like, I mean,

1243
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: the package that I say he is, he is one

1244
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: of the greatest three point shooters of all time, but.

1245
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: He Yeah, but it's had good postseasons where he is

1246
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: like the number one defender for the Indiana Basers tried

1247
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: to guard Lebron, but he is getting older, so that's

1248
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: the limit there.

1249
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 5: You know he's thirty four, almost thirty five.

1250
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to talk to so and then

1251
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: Siakam trade rumors with the with the Pacers as well.

1252
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: Should they like you said, they don't even care if

1253
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: he's like that for the long term, which is a

1254
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: little weird. So that means you're not giving up a ton.

1255
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. You couldn't trade picks if you

1256
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to resign the next year. But

1257
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: I saw Jake Weinbach, a Bucks reporter who said that

1258
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: the Pacers are trying to build packages around Buddy Healed,

1259
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Smith and a first like that could get that flair.

1260
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you can get Siakam. No, no, it's

1261
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: not a Saka level deal. But I don't know Brogden,

1262
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't make sense, But you could get Brogden,

1263
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 2: you know, for that kind of a deal. They need

1264
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: more size though. They need a player like Siakam to

1265
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: fill the three to four role basically and still be

1266
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: able to shoot it and defend a little bit. So

1267
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who that guy is.

1268
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, in talks with like between the Pacers and Raptors

1269
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: for Siakam, you know, that they're going, well, well there's

1270
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: no deal unless we get been in and they're saying, well,

1271
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: we're not including him, so bye, and they're like, oh

1272
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 3: what about Jaris Walker? Like Oh, we don't really want

1273
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: to give up on him, He's our rook. And then

1274
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: it's like I'm sure they just keep going like okay,

1275
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: what about Nemhard? Yeah, what about this? And which they

1276
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: have a lot of young talent, you know. Then you

1277
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: get into like should the Pacers make a move for

1278
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: Siakam like that? Like he would be awesome with Tyres Aliburton,

1279
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: like that would be a team you wouldn't want to play.

1280
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: But then the idea of like is he going to

1281
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: sign there? Is this just for three or four months?

1282
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: Is this to win? Is this to maybe just get

1283
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: in the play in back door and maybe put up

1284
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 3: a fight in a first round series, maybe win a series.

1285
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. That seems I wouldn't give up on,

1286
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Speaker 3: you know, too much talent, their young talent for that.

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Speaker 4: I think Buddy Hill's name is mentioned with the Round

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: Raptors because they desperately need.

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Speaker 5: A shoot her.

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Speaker 4: That that's that sort of makes sense. Yeah, but how

1291
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Speaker 4: much do you want to give up for Pascal Siakam.

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 5: Does he want to stay in Indiana?

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think he literally could be their

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 4: number one score. I know Tyres Alban is their number

1295
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: one guy, but the guy who have the most shots

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00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: per game will probably be Pascal Siakam, which may entice him.

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Speaker 4: But I have no idea.

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00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: Where Pascal Siakon wants to play basketball. I don't know.

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00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: Does he want to hang out there? You know, Oji's

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00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: stomping Grounds former stomping Grounds.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: Let me ask you one more question about the Pacers.

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00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they would trade Bruce Brown? It seems

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: like sign them to that weird deal that they have

1306
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: a team option for next season twenty three million dollars,

1307
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: but he's paying twenty two this year. They basically gave

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: him a huge deal so that they could lure him

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00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: away from the Nuggets. He's at twelve points, five rebounds,

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00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: three assists per game, forty seven from the field, thirty

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00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: three from three. I don't think he's had quite the

1312
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: impact that people were expecting. Myself included alongside the Pacers,

1313
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: but he's one of their only defenders. Yeah, really, I

1314
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: mean it's not. They don't play the lockdown exactly. So

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: I wonder if a team could wow them with the

1316
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: trade and steal Bruce Brown, who was awesome in the

1317
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: playoffs last year.

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00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I think so.

1319
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 4: I think they see Aaron Nesmith what he's done and

1320
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: kind of like fill in that role who's like greedy

1321
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: and fiery, even though he isn't really a defender. So

1322
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: I could see Bruce Brown going. It is a different setup.

1323
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: The Nuggets were able to give him the ball a lot,

1324
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 4: but with Math, I'm sorry. With Haliburton there, I don't know.

1325
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: He just hasn't been the same guy quite the same.

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we'll be talking a lot more about

1327
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: these guys and other intriguing trade names. But let's go

1328
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: to tweet the night.

1329
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: Tweet over night, Wow.

1330
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby, what do you got for?

1331
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: Tweeted the Knight got a couple of interesting hooded sweatshirts

1332
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: for you to look at here he it's a cold

1333
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: snap has descended on the United States and players are

1334
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: wearing the weirdest shirts I've ever seen. Last night, the Bulls,

1335
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: Dayly and Terry showed up for a game in Cleveland

1336
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: and the Bulls twitter account tweeted explain this hoodie dayl

1337
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: and Terry and it looks like a normal gray hooded

1338
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: sweatshirt except for on his right shoulder is another hood

1339
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: complete second hood taking off his shoulders.

1340
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: What is that thing for?

1341
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 4: Are you hugging? Maybe you're caressing another person a friend?

1342
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 4: That gets just a you get a reward hoodie.

1343
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: That's a hoodie for Siamese twins.

1344
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: That's for Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear.

1345
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: That is crazy.

1346
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: So that's a one two hoodie. Look. Yeah, here's another

1347
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: one from the Phoenix Suns Eric Gordon, who showed up

1348
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: for a Gabe wearing a hooded sweatshirt standard no zip

1349
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: over the hooded sweatshirt though, is another hooded sweatshirt uns it?

1350
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1351
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 5: I love this move.

1352
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: Two hoodies at once A great move. But what you got?

1353
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: What's crazier? Two hoodies at the same time or two

1354
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: hoodies on one shirt?

1355
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 3: Come on city, two hoodies on one shirt. I've never

1356
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: seen that because when you first when you first see

1357
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: the photo of Dylan Tey, you're like, oh, he's wearing

1358
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: it wrong. Yeah, and then you're like, hold on, no,

1359
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: he's not He's got it on.

1360
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: He's good.

1361
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: But then there's another hoodie on the shoulder. Yeah, so yeah,

1362
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: it's that one.

1363
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: It's for his pet. Possibly there's animal.

1364
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: Put a dog underneath the hoodie and exactly not the

1365
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: dog's head pop out. I mean that'd be pretty cool.

1366
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: At least on a couch. You suck them in there.

1367
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: And I don't know.

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: All right, people last night were like, what if you

1369
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: put it in the wrong hole. I was like, there

1370
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: is no wrong on it's just a right hood.

1371
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Or yeah, it's true, it's true. I thought, do you

1372
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: have a price on this too? I'm waiting for like,

1373
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: that's only one thousand, you know, eight hundred dollars.

1374
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: I think you're looking at like fifteen hundred. But might

1375
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: be worth it, seets. I know the guy who made it,

1376
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: he used to work at Wish here in Atlanta brick

1377
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: Owens aka b Stroy. I might cut you a deal

1378
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: twelve hundreds, okay, throwing a third hood as well.

1379
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: Jeez, oh we could, I mean, no duns, we could.

1380
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: We can all sit here, no dunk well be okay.

1381
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: If the Hornets, the Wizards, and the Pistons all and

1382
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: the season with the same record, we're buying or we're

1383
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 3: getting a custom made triple hood brick and we'll all

1384
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: sing it and we eat our peanut dust blocking blocking.

1385
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: You gotta watch the rest of this season. This is

1386
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: how we stay involved with teams like the Hornets and

1387
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: the Wizards.

1388
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: You gotta keep your eye on the soggy bottom.

1389
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 4: But our three teams that are tossing up a lot

1390
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 4: of bricks this season, we'll be asking Brick Owens to

1391
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: make this one.

1392
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: Why not Owens.

1393
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: That's a great name.

1394
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 5: It's a great name.

1395
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: Kevin's brother.

1396
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Eric Garden, Eric Gordon, the double Hoodie. That's just

1397
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 4: like a lazy guy I've done. I've done that before, totally.

1398
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1399
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 5: It's like I gotta get to my game. I gotta

1400
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 5: get to work. I'm just gonna put a hoodie on

1401
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 5: a hoodie.

1402
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: You know, here's a little hat on a hat. Is it.

1403
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: Like a grown millionaire? It's made one hundred million dollars

1404
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: in his prayer? Two hoodies though a Dwayne move.

1405
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: I I did see this morning that the we were

1406
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna have some hoodie content here. I thought for sure,

1407
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: you guys, we were throwing some honies. I threw on

1408
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 3: a man. I knew it was coming a real comfy hoodie.

1409
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: Terry got a draw four on his draw to man

1410
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: May felt they make those, don't there?

1411
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: I got the draw four shout up to Province of Canada.

1412
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: All right, fun tweets, let's call it there only three

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,800
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1415
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1423
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1424
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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: And remember some people are confused by this. Sometimes Canada

1428
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: is a country, not a province.

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Speaker 3: Some people don't know the company is called Canada. Yea yeah,

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Speaker 3: Brace the day, people,