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Speaker 1: I was laughing about in the break. Pro Bowl voting

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Speaker 1: all this fighting going on, you guys want to fight

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Speaker 1: for me and vote for the Pro Bowl. Thanks good stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's not shy. He's not shy. Go with what works,

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Speaker 1: and that is what people are talking about today. All right,

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Speaker 1: tie for he will, he won't. He might For Sunday's

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Speaker 1: game against the Colts, John, you have Miles Cheff, Well,

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Speaker 1: he will play better than he did overall for the

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Speaker 1: first nine games. And I think he's a guy, Brian,

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Speaker 1: who you targeted a lot in terms of being a

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Speaker 1: big player. For the first year nine games, he was inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: I think Doug addressed it without saying his name and

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Speaker 1: others name when he was talking about the inconsistency of

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Speaker 1: young players around him. I think Miles really uh at

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Speaker 1: times suffered for the inexperienced around him and trying to

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Speaker 1: do a little too much. Um, he won't keep doing

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Speaker 1: that's my point. Um. In this gap control defense, especially

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Speaker 1: against Carolina, Miles was trying to make up for young

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Speaker 1: players around him and got out of his lane. And

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Speaker 1: since that game, I think played much much better. For

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Speaker 1: the most part, I didn't think he played horribly against

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Um that felt like a game that got

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Speaker 1: away from the defense more than anything late in terms

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Speaker 1: of the running game. And he might in this second

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Speaker 1: half the season, now that he's gotten comfortable, now that

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Speaker 1: he knows what's around him, he might wind up turned

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Speaker 1: in the best seven games of his career. You've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for that, I know, well, Um, I think that

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Speaker 1: is where he's at right now in his career. So

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Speaker 1: I think of Miles as one of those players who

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Speaker 1: should be better than he is, like a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and I think he suffers from just you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a goofy kid. He's got some maturity issues. There's some

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Speaker 1: growing up that needs to be that needs to take place.

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Speaker 1: As Doug talked about, guys can change. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: if he changes, if he becomes that guy who is

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Speaker 1: as focused on football and taking care of himself and

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Speaker 1: being that leader because he's the middle linebacker. He's supposed

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Speaker 1: to and he's got the characteristics to do it. It's

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Speaker 1: not like he's one of those guys you google. Look,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's never going to be a leader. He just

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it. I think Miles does. I

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Speaker 1: think if Myles gets serious about it, I think Miles

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Speaker 1: can be what what I and what you see in him.

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Speaker 1: And if he is, then this Jaguars team is up

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Speaker 1: for the fight. But we're talking about you know, is

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Speaker 1: there the fight there? He's the guy a question, right

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Speaker 1: is he dialed in enough to be ready? Because if

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Speaker 1: he plays well, this defense plays well. And if he

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be that sideline to sideline, sack, forced fumble,

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Speaker 1: pick up, a fumble, intercepted pass, cover the tight end.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be that guy. He's the guy who

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Speaker 1: has the highest ceiling and he carries the Jaguars with

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Speaker 1: him if he gets there. Yeah. I noticed a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a difference with Miles, and it's little things.

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Speaker 1: But during the locker room availability this week, normally Miles

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Speaker 1: to go up to him. I was talking to Klaus

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Speaker 1: Sound from it. I think Wednesday he stood there and

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Speaker 1: said we have to win this game. Las was talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, one game at a time, one day at

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Speaker 1: a time. Miles point blank says, no, we have to

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Speaker 1: win on Sunday. I don't care involuntarily came in to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't care if any if Calais

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Speaker 1: mentors any player other than Miles Jack. If he puts

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Speaker 1: his arm around Miles Jack every day and leads him

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Speaker 1: in the right direction, yeah, I'm not so sure that's

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Speaker 1: the same town. Um, then then this team benefits greatly. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you just want to hug right, you

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Speaker 1: know what, you just need John's arm around. I really

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Speaker 1: don't really gotta be okay today. I really I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: I really think that Miles has got to take his

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Speaker 1: game to another level. Start Sunday, all right, Brian, you

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Speaker 1: have I say he'll earn some Pro Bowl votes this week.

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Speaker 1: He'll have a hundred yards rushing against the Colts and

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Speaker 1: dred forty yards from scrimmage. Um, he wasn't a factor

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Speaker 1: in the game in London against Houston. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that will be the case the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: He won't go missing in action. I think Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: opens up a world with possibilities for him. Um and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay with he might set the Jaguars single

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Speaker 1: season rushing record. It's six yards. He needs sixteen o seven.

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Speaker 1: That means he needs to average a hundred eleven rushing

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Speaker 1: yards per game. That's absolutely doable from him. It means

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Speaker 1: he's going to see a couple of good defenses as well,

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Speaker 1: but he's capable of a hundred eleven yards a game. Um.

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Speaker 1: It Just for side interest, he has eleven and twenty

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Speaker 1: six all purpose yards. He needs a hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: four all purpose yards per game to set the franchise record,

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Speaker 1: which is nine eighty from the same season that Marie

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Speaker 1: Jones threw led the team in rushing. So I guess

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is if he gets the rushing record,

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Speaker 1: it's a good bet he gets the yards from scrimmage

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Speaker 1: record as well, and that would be big for him

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Speaker 1: coming into this year. I don't think any of us

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Speaker 1: thought that was possible. I'd be surprised if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get the second one at this point because of how

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Speaker 1: he's been used in the passing game and because of

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Speaker 1: how I think Foles will continue to use him in

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Speaker 1: the passing game. Um, I think he's got a shot

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Speaker 1: at the first one you're talking about. Because usually to

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Speaker 1: get huge rushing seasons, Mojo's was unusual in the sense

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Speaker 1: that it felt like Mojo in two thousand eleven got

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Speaker 1: six yards four yards at a time. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was a grinded out, physically taxing season, and I think

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Speaker 1: he had one run over thirty five. I could be

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Speaker 1: wrong that he didn't have very many. And uh, it's

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Speaker 1: much easier and more capable to get there. Leonards perfectly

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Speaker 1: capable in seven games of reeling off you know, four

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Speaker 1: or forty yard runs. He's that guy right now. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a real shot at You think

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Speaker 1: there's five runs over sixty yards since, which leads to

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Speaker 1: the league, which is surprising considering how many explosive backs.

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Speaker 1: You would think that guys like Dalvin Cook and Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliott and se Kwan Barkley would be challenging him. In that.

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Speaker 1: But he's got five now and this kid goes, he

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Speaker 1: goes the other thing. And by the way, we just

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Speaker 1: got done. Joe and I did finishing up perspectives the

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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew version of our season podcast, and he

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Speaker 1: tells a great story about that two thousand and eleven season.

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Speaker 1: He was injured the second half of the season, had

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Speaker 1: the offensive line was urging him to practice and play

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Speaker 1: because that was something that could hang their hat on

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Speaker 1: winning the rushing title. The rest of the season was

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Speaker 1: a wash obviously. Um, And it just makes me think,

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Speaker 1: when it's healthy. Yeah, it's remarkable that he's healthy. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say it because I said it. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he was a guy capable of playing sixteen games a

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Speaker 1: season because of his physical Earl Campbell esque running style.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a legitimate shot at both a

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Speaker 1: real At the very least, we'll be talking about how

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Speaker 1: many yards he needs, I believe the last two or

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Speaker 1: three weeks. If he gets a hundred and seven today

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Speaker 1: or a hundred nineteen tomorrow, um, we'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: him being involved in that. And I think it will

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Speaker 1: definitely help. I would be stunned if full his presence

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Speaker 1: in the line it doesn't help. I thought at the end,

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Speaker 1: especially against the Texans, they knew, let's take away four net,

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Speaker 1: let's do these things against the run, and there's a

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Speaker 1: limited amount to where they're going to hurt us in

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Speaker 1: the past. I think Folds his presence makes that limited

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Speaker 1: amount much less limited, and it should open things up

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Speaker 1: for Net. And I really think Brian, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: is going to see things in the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: that enable them to get the ball to four net

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Speaker 1: in the passing game, in the running game much more effectively. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's not a knock on Gardener. He's only seen X

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Speaker 1: number of things in his NFL life. Folds has seen

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Speaker 1: Next Time's ten. You know, I think after today we

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Speaker 1: probably won't be talking about Gardener a whole lot, obviously

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Speaker 1: because Nick comes in. So it's worth remembering for people

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Speaker 1: he went four in four for anything that you might

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Speaker 1: with my kids last night because I was talking about

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Speaker 1: a good football player on one of their teams and

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Speaker 1: the other one wanted to defend himself and say, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm as good as he. They're not mutuo exclusive. Nick

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Speaker 1: and Gardner are not mutually exclusive. The fact that Nick

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Speaker 1: is a veteran quarterback with a wealth of experience nine

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Speaker 1: and two late in the season in the last two

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Speaker 1: years doesn't mean that Gardner isn't a good quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: just not the same guy. I felt as I was

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Speaker 1: having that argument with my son's last night. It feels

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Speaker 1: the same way with the Nick and Gardner crowd. One

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Speaker 1: is just getting started. One has been through the fire.

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Speaker 1: That's the reason why the Jaguars have hope at four

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Speaker 1: and five for being involved in this thing, right, and

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Speaker 1: you should just not compare because they're just just because

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Speaker 1: you say, well, Nick is this great quarterback? Doesn't he?

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Speaker 1: You're saying, well, this guy isn't good at all? Right,

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Speaker 1: we all saw what he did two different guys, all right, Mike,

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Speaker 1: he will he won't he might? Is that guy, Nick Foles?

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Speaker 1: He will lead this team he talks about in his

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Speaker 1: press conference, working on building relationships and earning the trusts

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Speaker 1: of the locker room during while he was rehabbing his injury.

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Speaker 1: I think that is the key why they will be

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Speaker 1: successful the second half of the season. You can tell

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Speaker 1: how excited the guys are to play for Nick Foles.

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Speaker 1: I think that is the difference the second half. He

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Speaker 1: won't the stage be too big. From we've been ask

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of pressure on his shoulders

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. All eyes are on him. It's a huge spotlight.

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Speaker 1: He's been there before, he's done it before, he's been

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Speaker 1: successful with that. It's not going to be too big

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Speaker 1: for him. Too much pressure Sunday against Indianapolis, and he

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Speaker 1: might throw two touchdown passes on Sunday. Calling it now,

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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say four there five, write it

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Speaker 1: down two touchdown passes d D. That's realistic. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: write about that, Okay, two touchdown passes if I'm right.

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Speaker 1: You have to bring me a dunkin Donuts munchkin on

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Speaker 1: Monday morning. Yeah, John, Well, he agreed to it. You

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Speaker 1: Friday morning, NFL weekend coming up. As the Jaguars get

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Speaker 1: ready to HND in the Annapolis to play the Colts.

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Speaker 1: We have pick one and picket. John has Chargers at Chiefs. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's uh actually in Mexico City, charging at Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: Mexico City. And to me, it's the fascinating game because

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are desperate and I still believe the Chargers

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Speaker 1: are okay, and they're capable because they have philip rivers.

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Speaker 1: They're capable because they still have a very good defense.

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00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: And it's gotten to the point now with the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: that if they lose one of these, if they lose

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Speaker 1: a couple of these in a very you know what

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Speaker 1: seems now like a very good division top to bottom,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they start sliding back. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs win it, it gets really interesting for the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs if they don't. The Charges are an interesting group

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Speaker 1: because Philip Rivers was strong early, but he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been that that guy the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and they're starting to sort of look like an old

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00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: quarter right, and then I don't like that, and that's

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Speaker 1: your guy, and the personality, well, yeah, he's he's a

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Speaker 1: tremendous person whether he's a tremendous quarterback or not any longer.

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Speaker 1: But that's the point. Sixteen years in this thing, Now,

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Speaker 1: is he done? I mean, if Eli Manning is done,

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Speaker 1: they came out in the same year, then it's not

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Speaker 1: out of the rum of possibility that this guy could

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Speaker 1: be done. Um, this might be his last stand game.

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Speaker 1: This might be that last chance to make a run.

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Speaker 1: They've got enough talent that they could be a team

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Speaker 1: involved in the wild card, or they could miss the

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Speaker 1: playoffs altogether. And you could see him right off into

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Speaker 1: the sunset. This is one of the great games last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. I think it was in it

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Speaker 1: was in Los Angeles, But there was a game last

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Speaker 1: year between the Charges in the Chiefs where Rivers brought

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Speaker 1: him back late hit a two point conversion late Classic

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Speaker 1: games in Kansas City and so which this game chiefs.

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, so it's hard for me to

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Speaker 1: believe that Rivers is absolutely done, can't be effective less

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Speaker 1: than a year from that. But at that age it goes.

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Speaker 1: It's gone for me. The last fifteen years, they were

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Speaker 1: so talented coming into the year. I mean, you saw

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Speaker 1: the way that they played in the playoffs last year

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Speaker 1: leading in Baltimore, and those big receivers they have, and

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Speaker 1: and you thought Melvin Gordon is a guy who they

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Speaker 1: can get a lot out of. They haven't gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot of him. They lost the two of their starting

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, they're down on defense. Um, if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do anything, it's all it's gonna be in him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough situation for them. And I

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Speaker 1: don't get two into the whole stadium thing with him.

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Speaker 1: But when you really never play at home, which is

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Speaker 1: sort of that feeling of their um, you just have

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Speaker 1: to wonder if that doesn't cost a game or two somewhere. Well,

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Speaker 1: the probably is they don't have many fans. The people

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Speaker 1: in San Diego said, screw you. You left, and the

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Speaker 1: people in l are like, we got the Rams, what

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Speaker 1: do we need you for their kind? If they even

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Speaker 1: care about their and right well they probably if they

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Speaker 1: do at all, you right now because of what they

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Speaker 1: did last year. So you're going to Mexico City now.

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Speaker 1: And if there was ever a US against the World

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Speaker 1: Circle of Wagons kind of moment, it would be this one.

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Speaker 1: I think there should be a great game. And it's

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Speaker 1: is it Monday night or Sunday night? Believe it's Monday, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Monday Monday for that one. Alright, tough saying, tough matchup.

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Speaker 1: The Texans up against the Ravens. They go to the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens had a moment earlier this year

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Speaker 1: where they looked beatable. They lost in Kansas City, which

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Speaker 1: is no surprise, and then they got pounded by the

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Speaker 1: Browns to give it forty points, and you thought, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: you know, what is this Ravens team going to be?

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Speaker 1: And since then, you know, they've beaten the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: they've beaten the Steelers, and they've played at a high

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Speaker 1: level um, but they're not invincible. And the Texans as

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Speaker 1: beat up as they are. I didn't think there was

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Speaker 1: any way the Texans were gonna beat this team in London,

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Speaker 1: not with all the injuries that they have, And yet

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Speaker 1: they did because Shaun Watson has that m Houdini esque

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Speaker 1: quality to him, and because they're a tough minded team,

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Speaker 1: they went into Kansas City and beat the crap out

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Speaker 1: of him. Um. I think the Texans win this one.

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Speaker 1: I think that people might be surprised at that. UM,

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Speaker 1: But I think that the Texans just have this big

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Speaker 1: game mentality about them. And you know, you could argue

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Speaker 1: the Ravens do too, because they beat the Patriots. UM.

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Speaker 1: I just something tells me this is a Texans win.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna be interesting is some team is going to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to at least a slowdown Jackson Um

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00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: and the Patriots tried to didn't and didn't do it

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Speaker 1: very successfully. Romeo Cornell, you wonder what he'll come up

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Speaker 1: with to try to come at what he does. I'm

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00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: not sure there's an answer, but historically in the league,

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Speaker 1: guys don't stay as invincible and as hot as this

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Speaker 1: guy has been, so at some point somebody's gonna come

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Speaker 1: up with what they think is a blueprint. Does it

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Speaker 1: happen this week with Cornell, we'll see. Did you see

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00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: the run? Of course you did. They touched down run

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati last week. And it wasn't just the spin

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Speaker 1: move where he went up the middle of the field

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Speaker 1: and ran away from everyone else. It was how he

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Speaker 1: set the spin move up with it with his feet

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Speaker 1: to the outside. There just aren't many people that can

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Speaker 1: do that much less a quarterback. Well, there's just not

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Speaker 1: that many athletes who have that full speed change of

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Speaker 1: direction sort of thing. The one thing I see when

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Speaker 1: I see him is a guy who can he do

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Speaker 1: that if he gets hit low, if someone takes his

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Speaker 1: knee out, and lots of quarterbacks have missed time with

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Speaker 1: knee injuries, especially mobile quarterbacks. If he loses an a

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Speaker 1: c L at some point in his career, is he

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Speaker 1: the same guy? And I bring that up because Brunel

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Speaker 1: not nearly that quick. But Brunell was a very mobile

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Speaker 1: quarterback and he made a lot of guys miss because

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Speaker 1: he could change direction. Then he got the a c

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Speaker 1: L in and he became a pocket past and it

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Speaker 1: does happen. RG three saying was very good as a

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Speaker 1: rookie because teams had to defend their run once they

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00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: stopped worrying about that not as effective. Um, it would

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Speaker 1: strike you with some of Jackson's accuracy stuff coming out

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00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: of college that he could fit into that. But so

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Speaker 1: far he has defied everything so far, So who just

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Speaker 1: say he can't continue to do that? At some point

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Speaker 1: in his career if he has a long one, he

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Speaker 1: will be a pocket passer, have to be. That's the

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Speaker 1: problem with longevity with the mobile quarterbacks, and sometimes lose it.

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Speaker 1: And it's Texans when this one they are rolling. Man,

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Speaker 1: that is quite the street. I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: gonna catch them all right, my pick one and pick it.

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Speaker 1: Patriots at Eagles rematch of Super Bowl two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady had an interview earlier this week and they

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Speaker 1: asked him, are you over that Super Bowl? Said? Am

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Speaker 1: I over it? I think about it every day and

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Speaker 1: I think that is key to this game. I think

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Speaker 1: Patriots get rematch of this one. Patriots eight and one,

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Speaker 1: Eagles five and four. Tom Brady still thinks about that

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl loss. You don't want Tom Brady think about

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Speaker 1: that type of thing. Well, and you know that this

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Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz shot shot at the Eagles. I'm sorry

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00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: at the Patriots. He obviously didn't play in that Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl game, and he's got a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: think he's still a terrific young quarterback. And then there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that question is he as

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Speaker 1: good as nippoles Um. So this is a big game

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Speaker 1: for him personally, time to prove doubt or is wrong.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like the Patriots are the most forgotten

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Speaker 1: eight and one? They really are. I was just thinking

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Speaker 1: about this. Wait, you're playing again this week. I in

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Speaker 1: my rankings this week and I have a number one,

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Speaker 1: and people were writing in, Oh, the Ravens just beat them.

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Speaker 1: But until they don't have the best record in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and until they lose in the playoffs, I'll believe

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Speaker 1: when I see it. And I don't think they're the

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Speaker 1: greatest talent team. But don't you think when the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots play in the playoffs, if if they

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Speaker 1: do that, somehow that Lamar Jackson runner all over them

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen again. Yeah, there's no doubt. But so

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Speaker 1: let's just put it this way. If you put the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and brought the Niners in, and you played in

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Speaker 1: a neutral environment, let's just say you played them in

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Speaker 1: minnots Minnesota, right where weather's not a factor. Is there

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Speaker 1: any doubt who wins Jimmy Garoppolo versus Tom Brady? Right,

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Speaker 1: take the helmets off, and I would say the Niners win,

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Speaker 1: But somehow that team would win. Yeah, I'd say the

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Speaker 1: same thing with if you brought Seattle in Russell Wilson's tremendous,

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Speaker 1: I'd still take Tom Brady in that game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is true that the forgotten. Yeah, I was looking.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah they played. Oh wow, they're

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Speaker 1: eating one. Oh yeah, forgot about that. They're good until

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Speaker 1: they're not absolutely all right. And that is our show.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time Friday morning, Stay tuned in Jaguars dot Com,

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